:00:19. > :00:29.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones.
:00:29. > :00:36.
:00:36. > :00:44.And Matt Baker. Sometimes our strawberries can be lowbrow. But
:00:44. > :00:51.tonight we're going high brow in a big way. We welcome the manner of
:00:51. > :00:58.real culture, not to mention the man with the best hair on TV. It's
:00:58. > :01:03.Melvyn Bragg. It looks great, even when it is on.
:01:04. > :01:10.I am joking! I want to check how highbrow you are. What was the last
:01:10. > :01:17.thing you watched on TV? Chelsea against Munich. I am not a Chelsea
:01:17. > :01:22.fan at all but I like our teams to win and it was the end of a fantasy
:01:22. > :01:28.season in football. Goals in the last two seconds, I was enthralled.
:01:28. > :01:36.It is like a drama with a satisfactory ending. We watched it
:01:36. > :01:40.with no sound through a pub window. It wasn't very highbrow!
:01:40. > :01:47.Tonight we are going live to the Eurovision Song Contest. Is there
:01:47. > :01:53.time in your cultural calendar for Eurovision? Yes. I want to see
:01:53. > :01:58.Engelbert do his stuff without any question. I don't follow the
:01:58. > :02:03.Eurovision Song Contest, O K, but from the very beginning, the South
:02:03. > :02:09.Bank Show brought into British arts programme pop music. Our first
:02:09. > :02:15.programme, we had Paul McCartney, Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, Dolly
:02:15. > :02:21.Parton. Out of that came of it anything as good as what was coming
:02:21. > :02:29.in. So I want to watch Eurovision to see Engelbert. Here is is the
:02:29. > :02:34.very him, then Hump, in Azerbaijan. Hello, this is Engel but all the
:02:34. > :02:41.way from Baku and Melvyn, I am bringing you some high culture all
:02:41. > :02:47.the way from Azerbaijan. See you later! He is even reporting on the
:02:47. > :02:50.One Show! Also on the show tonight, find out
:02:50. > :02:53.what happened when our "Famous Five" friends who grew up in a
:02:53. > :02:56.Barnado's home together met up for the first time in 50 years.
:02:56. > :02:59.Get your hankies ready, it's going to get emotional.
:02:59. > :03:03.We all know that councils across the country are having to make
:03:03. > :03:05.drastic cuts and local libraries are particularly in the firing line.
:03:05. > :03:07.Some have managed to stay open through the dedication of
:03:07. > :03:15.volunteers - but can this work for every library?
:03:15. > :03:20.Anita Rani has been to find out. Libraries have always played a
:03:20. > :03:25.really important role in my life. I love everything about them, that
:03:25. > :03:29.warm feeling, the distinctive musty smell and the fact that you are
:03:29. > :03:32.surrounded by it all of those brilliant words. But with squeezed
:03:33. > :03:39.budgets, local councils are having to make difficult choices and
:03:39. > :03:44.across the UK, many libraries are closing or reducing their opening
:03:44. > :03:49.hours. These used to be the library for Barnet in north London but it
:03:49. > :03:54.doesn't exist anymore and that has prompted an angry protest from the
:03:54. > :03:59.people who once used it. Last month some of the locals decided to
:03:59. > :04:04.occupy the building in protest. People feel that the library is the
:04:04. > :04:10.centre of the community. We cannot destroy this sense of community.
:04:10. > :04:13.The council told us budget cuts meant they had to save �1.5 million
:04:13. > :04:18.from the library service and they acknowledge that not every resident
:04:18. > :04:23.would be happy with the changes. feel devastated that my local
:04:24. > :04:27.library has closed and it doesn't seem right. The community said no,
:04:27. > :04:31.all the schools and businesses has said that the library needs to stay
:04:32. > :04:36.open. In the weeks following the closure, the protest group decided
:04:36. > :04:41.they would try to run their own makeshift library on Saturdays. It
:04:41. > :04:44.relies on the honesty of local people to return the books.
:04:44. > :04:48.According to the group, the council have offered them a building where
:04:48. > :04:52.they can run their own voluntary library but this campaign it is
:04:52. > :04:57.keen to find out if the library run by volunteers can ever hope to
:04:57. > :05:01.survive in the long term, so I am taking him on a trip outside London.
:05:01. > :05:05.In Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire, they have set up a
:05:05. > :05:09.library with no professional staff. The One Show first pay them a visit
:05:09. > :05:17.to make three years ago and now I am taking Martin to see what he
:05:17. > :05:21.thinks. We fought tooth and nail for the library not to be shut and
:05:21. > :05:26.in an ideal world, you want it to be run by the county but
:05:26. > :05:30.unfortunately, there is not the money to do it. So in Chalfont St
:05:31. > :05:36.Giles, the local people agreed to keep the library running themselves.
:05:36. > :05:42.The people do not get paid but the library does get grants. They also
:05:42. > :05:46.lost uses a voluntary �10 annual subscription to help with costs.
:05:46. > :05:52.is going extremely well and a huge improvement from when it was won by
:05:52. > :05:58.the county. When they closed it, there were 4500 books. There are
:05:58. > :06:04.now 7,000 and it is open 50% more of the time. They have even managed
:06:04. > :06:09.to keep the children's groups going. Storage time is happening behind me.
:06:09. > :06:14.I will join them. They have had the same books on the shelves for years.
:06:14. > :06:21.But now, a lot of them or given by the people in the village and the
:06:21. > :06:26.literary quality of the books has gone up. Do you think this could be
:06:26. > :06:31.rolled out across the country? You desperately need community like
:06:31. > :06:36.this, with people know each other and are prepared to help. So what
:06:36. > :06:41.do you do in and not particularly affluent community? The authorities
:06:41. > :06:44.really have to keep those libraries going. Martin is really impressed
:06:44. > :06:48.with what he has seen in Chalfont St Giles and the six of the
:06:48. > :06:56.volunteers have had been improving it, but could something similar
:06:56. > :07:02.work in Barnet? -- the success. It is no replacement from paid
:07:02. > :07:06.librarians and a paid library service. In Barnet, the Community
:07:06. > :07:10.Library is continuing to operate but campaigners do not want that to
:07:10. > :07:14.be a replacement. None of us have the time and inclination to run
:07:14. > :07:19.this service. We have families cannot working full-time and
:07:19. > :07:21.studying. We are disappointed the council is not listening to us.
:07:21. > :07:26.campaigners are considering whether one course of action is to
:07:26. > :07:29.challenge its closure in the courts. In other parts of the country, some
:07:29. > :07:33.councils have been forced to rethink their plans to close
:07:33. > :07:37.libraries. Melvyn, did libraries play the big
:07:37. > :07:43.part in your growing up? At one stage in my life, they were
:07:43. > :07:48.everything. We did not have books. We lived in a council house. I used
:07:48. > :07:53.to go with my dad on Tuesday and Friday nights. Mr Cameron was the
:07:53. > :07:58.librarian. He would say, I think you should read that. For five
:07:58. > :08:01.crucial years before I went to a school with a library, I read and
:08:01. > :08:08.read from that library and these volunteers are fantastic and they
:08:08. > :08:13.are all over the place. Good luck to all of them. For many people, it
:08:13. > :08:18.is the entrance to 100 new worlds. And you said you are donating your
:08:18. > :08:23.books to a library in London. We could not have you on without
:08:23. > :08:29.playing a bit of this. The theme tune to the South Bank Show. It is
:08:29. > :08:35.brilliant. The South Bank Show is back on Sunday. You have six hour
:08:35. > :08:39.shows. We are starting on Sunday with Nicholas Hytner, the director
:08:39. > :08:43.of the National Theatre. Some people thinks that is the greatest
:08:43. > :08:48.city theatre in the world and some people think he is the Best
:08:48. > :08:53.Director in the world. Pat Barker, who writes about the First World
:08:53. > :08:59.War, marvellous novels. Then these lads in the East End of London and
:08:59. > :09:07.their music, Dizzee Rascal. Different! Then we have a male
:09:07. > :09:11.ballet dancer -- belly-dancer, Carlos Vela Costa and others. And
:09:11. > :09:21.then women singer-songwriters and Ben Nicola Benedetti in fairness,
:09:21. > :09:21.
:09:21. > :09:26.Scotland, Brazil and London. I think it is quite a six pack!
:09:26. > :09:31.Here you are interviewing Nicholas Hytner, talking about James
:09:32. > :09:38.Corden's play, One Man, Two Guvnors. The idea was to do it with James
:09:38. > :09:44.Corden and not do it as a kind of pastiche from today, but let's try
:09:44. > :09:54.to recreate a tradition which I think is still very much alive, the
:09:54. > :09:57.
:09:57. > :10:03.tradition of English comedy. Carry On comedy. Yeah! LAUGHTER. APPLAUSE.
:10:03. > :10:10.That is the first one. James Corden is fantastically funny. I must have
:10:10. > :10:14.seen that clips several times and he always makes me laugh. We went
:10:14. > :10:18.to the States to see what would happen with a very English comedy
:10:18. > :10:22.went to Broadway in the United States and is slaughtered them!
:10:22. > :10:28.People were almost crying, you know when you are rocking in a big
:10:28. > :10:35.audience! Richard is such a good writer, it was marvellous. And then
:10:35. > :10:42.you go to cover some crime. Are you surprised you shows that? -- crime?
:10:42. > :10:46.We should point out that that is a type of rap music. Yes, rap music,
:10:46. > :10:50.classical music, and then these lads in the East End next to the
:10:51. > :10:54.richest part of the country, Canary Wharf, with the biggest youth
:10:54. > :10:59.poverty in the UK and these lads in these three blocks of flats have
:10:59. > :11:04.made their own music and they are very proud of it. It is Dizzee
:11:04. > :11:12.Rascal and wily and they will not have American accents. Did rap
:11:12. > :11:17.music grab you? No. I like it now but I came to it very late. Archie
:11:17. > :11:22.power well, one of the directors. If you are on a programme as varied
:11:22. > :11:25.as mine, you cannot know everything. The director got these people
:11:25. > :11:29.together and persuaded them to do it and they were not too keen
:11:29. > :11:34.because they had done it all to themselves. I really cannot tell
:11:34. > :11:40.you how moving their strawberry is. These young lads have as near to
:11:40. > :11:44.next to nothing as you can have -- moving their story is. It is so
:11:44. > :11:48.moving. They remind me of the Liverpool scene in the early 60s
:11:48. > :11:54.with McCartney and those guys, going to do music and nobody is
:11:54. > :11:57.going to stop them and they are given to get on with it. Few have
:11:57. > :12:01.interviewed a diverse range of people but he would you like to
:12:01. > :12:07.interview that is not with us any more -- you have interviewed?
:12:07. > :12:15.would like to have interviewed Elvis Presley. What would you have
:12:15. > :12:21.asked him? Partly, why did he make so many rubbish films. I would not
:12:21. > :12:25.have dead! I would ask him about the early days. He had the voice of
:12:25. > :12:30.a saucer Rock. He could have been a great opera singer. And then a man
:12:30. > :12:37.called Samuel Beckett, who wrote Waiting for God go, which is a play
:12:37. > :12:45.I could see again and again. Those two. The South Bank Show starts
:12:45. > :12:55.this Sunday at 10pm on Sky. Late last year we featured the
:12:55. > :12:57.Mossbourne Academy. A school in the deprived London borough of Hackney.
:12:57. > :13:00.Mossbourne's head teacher Sir Michael Wilshaw insisted on old
:13:00. > :13:02.fashioned values like standing when the teachers enter the room and
:13:02. > :13:05.reciting a mantra at the start of lessons.
:13:05. > :13:09.Since then Sir Michael has become the head of Ofsted, whose job it is
:13:09. > :13:11.to inspect schools in England. And he has some radical ideas on how
:13:11. > :13:15.every school should change, but not everyone agrees.
:13:15. > :13:18.So, we called a staff meeting. And invited teachers from two Essex
:13:18. > :13:20.schools. You might recognise some of them from the fly-on-the-wall
:13:20. > :13:27.documentary Educating Essex. They started off their discussion
:13:27. > :13:31.talking about unannouced inspections.
:13:31. > :13:36.It is interesting that both of you as head teachers come when you said
:13:36. > :13:41.about the Ofsted inspection, there was no notice, you both said you
:13:41. > :13:49.had to protect your staff. I have a right to prepare them for the
:13:49. > :13:52.scrutiny and the inspection. No notice inspections are divisive and
:13:53. > :13:59.unfair to the children and to the staff. I do not think that is at
:13:59. > :14:03.all right. It is another example of not trusting schools almost. One of
:14:03. > :14:06.the thing that resonated was that quote from Michael will sure that
:14:06. > :14:12.teachers do not understand what stresses and that we needed a
:14:12. > :14:16.reality check. I have been in the profession for over 30 years and I
:14:16. > :14:21.do not think there has been a period where teachers have worked
:14:21. > :14:25.harder. There is the inference that we tolerate mediocrity and that we
:14:25. > :14:28.do not have that expectation from students and the staff. When we see
:14:28. > :14:33.them questioning our professionalism and dedication to
:14:33. > :14:36.the students, that only has a detrimental effect on us.
:14:36. > :14:41.Michael Wilshaw is said to have commented that you should have
:14:41. > :14:48.pleasure that morale is low amongst your staff as a head teacher. Our
:14:48. > :14:53.worry about that. With good morale, you feel happy, people are valued,
:14:53. > :14:57.it is a good message and we believe in that. I work in a great
:14:57. > :15:00.department and we all get on really well and we enjoy what we do and if
:15:01. > :15:05.we have a stressful day, we help each other out and that does keep
:15:05. > :15:11.you going. Why would anybody say that they would like staff morale
:15:11. > :15:16.to be low? That makes no sense. think that is about his choice of
:15:16. > :15:24.words. He would say, I don't mean that. He makes a blunt statement.
:15:24. > :15:27.If I have loads dope -- Low Row I must be doing a good thing. No, he
:15:27. > :15:33.will have constant turnover of staff and supply teachers, no
:15:33. > :15:36.consistency, sickness rates. I do not see him as a bad person and the
:15:36. > :15:40.enemy of teachers. His heart is in the right place but unfortunately
:15:40. > :15:46.at the moment, he is just getting it wrong with how he sells his
:15:46. > :15:49.message. He is a teacher! Ultimately this is a man who has
:15:49. > :15:52.done the job and done it brilliantly. I just want him to
:15:52. > :16:01.help me to do it brilliantly. Thanks to the teachers of and St
:16:01. > :16:07.Thanks to the teachers of and St John's and Passmore's Academy. Did
:16:07. > :16:13.you mean what you said about low morale amongst staff? That was
:16:13. > :16:18.taken out of context. I was taken to task a member of staff who was
:16:18. > :16:23.teaching poorly. He wrote a three- page letter the following day
:16:23. > :16:31.saying what an awful person I was an same staff morale was at an all-
:16:31. > :16:37.time low. I said, sometimes, when you have to take on the challenging
:16:37. > :16:42.situation in a failing school, this sort of accusation might be made.
:16:42. > :16:52.Staff morale was at an all-time low. This is the sort of accusation that
:16:52. > :16:52.
:16:52. > :16:58.can be made. It was taken out of context. What sort of things did to
:16:58. > :17:03.implement and other schools should follow suit? Mossbourne was in a
:17:03. > :17:08.very disadvantaged part of London. It was on the site of a badly
:17:08. > :17:12.failing school. It served children from poor backgrounds. The children
:17:12. > :17:17.achieve well above the national average. Where there are three
:17:17. > :17:24.things you said you did? realised we had to make no excuses
:17:24. > :17:31.for them - no excuses for their background. We said, we do not care
:17:31. > :17:35.what background to a from. We expect you to achieve. -- you are
:17:35. > :17:40.from. We worked hard in the evenings and at twilight sessions
:17:40. > :17:46.and at the weekends and make sure they were supported to get them
:17:46. > :17:51.through their exams so they would do well. I saw one episode from
:17:51. > :17:54.that programme and they did the same. They saw their
:17:54. > :18:00.responsibilities and duties outside the classroom as well as the inside.
:18:00. > :18:04.A lot of our youngsters came from very unstructured environments. We
:18:04. > :18:09.introduced a lot of structure to their lives. All the rituals and
:18:09. > :18:15.routines you saw in the clip helped to create a good structure in which
:18:15. > :18:19.good teaching could go on. I used to say, we run a formal institution
:18:20. > :18:25.but when you are in the classroom, we want you to be innovative and
:18:25. > :18:31.interesting and make your lessons come alive. One hot topic is
:18:31. > :18:37.unannounced inspections. The teachers prepare, don't they come
:18:37. > :18:42.up for inspections. What do you think you will gain by that?
:18:42. > :18:48.have yet to make a decision on this one. The idea behind it was that
:18:48. > :18:53.there was a lot of stress that comes in before an inspection.
:18:53. > :18:58.People get very stressed. I have seen it over and again as a teacher
:18:58. > :19:03.and her head teacher. I think when inspectors turn up on a morning
:19:03. > :19:10.that stress levels would be lower. The second reason is, I think
:19:10. > :19:16.inspectors want to see a school as it really is and not changed for an
:19:16. > :19:21.inspection. Just to seat a normal school as it is. We have taken into
:19:21. > :19:27.account lots of responses to what we propose. Some head teachers so
:19:27. > :19:30.they need to be there and they might be out of schools. What other
:19:30. > :19:36.chances of parents seeing that in children's schools right across
:19:36. > :19:41.England? Parents would be good school for their child. We have one
:19:41. > :19:47.in three schools at the moment that are not good - satisfactory and
:19:47. > :19:51.below. I have made it clear that I want to seat all schools good or on
:19:51. > :19:58.a journey to being good. That is the important thing. That is what
:19:58. > :20:05.parents and kids want. And it can happen? I hope so with the measures
:20:05. > :20:12.we are putting in place. The second part of the amazing story of those
:20:12. > :20:19.Barnardo's girls separated from each other or loges a go. -- all
:20:19. > :20:27.those years ago. They were aged just -- between just one Aberu
:20:27. > :20:34.Kebede and eight and their families could not look after them. -- four
:20:34. > :20:38.and eight. The five girls are now women in the 60s. They are spread
:20:38. > :20:43.all over the world. They have not seen each other since the day they
:20:43. > :20:48.left this has 50 years ago. In a few minutes we would be reuniting
:20:48. > :20:54.this unique set of friends at the very same house that holds very
:20:54. > :21:03.powerful memories. You never felt alone. We were always there for
:21:03. > :21:08.each other. The four other girls were my family. Five children,
:21:08. > :21:17.split up, go different ways, in different countries, how could they
:21:17. > :21:22.get together? I feel really excited about it. It is like a part of my
:21:22. > :21:32.life is put back together. It is like we were torn apart and put
:21:32. > :21:33.
:21:33. > :21:38.back together again. In my mind's eye, they all look the same. They
:21:38. > :21:43.will not have changed. They have travelled from as far afield as
:21:43. > :21:50.America and Australia for this moment. Back at their old
:21:50. > :22:00.Barnardo's care home together, for the first time in 50 years. Oh, my
:22:00. > :22:14.
:22:14. > :22:18.gosh! Patsy! I recognise you. wonderful. As soon as they step
:22:18. > :22:24.through the door of their former childhood home, though shared
:22:24. > :22:32.memories come flooding back. This is where you do the dishes. We used
:22:32. > :22:38.to scrub the floor on our hands and knees. I spent hours in here.
:22:38. > :22:42.has changed. Much has changed in the 50 years since the women lived
:22:42. > :22:47.here. The house has become a private home. In that old bedroom,
:22:47. > :22:56.at the back of the wardrobe, a poignant reminder of their time
:22:56. > :23:01.here it remains. Patsy, Pam. Nobody painted over it! A what is it like
:23:01. > :23:07.to see all your names all those years on? It brings you back to
:23:07. > :23:12.those times. There is no awkwardness at all. It is like we
:23:12. > :23:19.could move back into this house and it would be the same. You will suit
:23:19. > :23:29.-- still be Baby Pam. The garden was the big reward for chores well
:23:29. > :23:31.
:23:31. > :23:35.done. We played croquet a lot on our holidays. You could remember
:23:35. > :23:45.yourselves playing together outside in the gardens. It brings a lot of
:23:45. > :23:47.
:23:47. > :23:53.memories back. We did not have that. I am still wondering if it is real.
:23:53. > :23:58.You were the last original ones. There have been so many years
:23:58. > :24:05.waiting for this and not really knowing. At that moment, it hits
:24:05. > :24:12.you that here they are, in flesh and blood. I am emotional now.
:24:12. > :24:20.Whoever would have thought! For me, it is like having my family back.
:24:20. > :24:26.We were family. Do you know what I think we should do? You know the
:24:26. > :24:36.photo, let's blind you all up doing exactly the same 50 years on. --
:24:36. > :24:51.
:24:51. > :24:59.That has made me go all tingly. Do you want eight issue? It is
:24:59. > :25:06.wonderful news. They join us now. - - a tissue. Did you watch the
:25:06. > :25:13.episode last night? Yes, we did. All emotions. The reunion happened
:25:13. > :25:19.last Sunday. What did you do? How did you celebrate? Oh, my gosh!
:25:19. > :25:26.What did we do? You just looked at each other, I expect, just held
:25:26. > :25:33.each other. Did you have drinks? We'd just when the nest. Did you
:25:33. > :25:41.recognise each other straight away -- we just reminisced. We recognise
:25:41. > :25:46.each other's straight away. could see the features on the faces.
:25:46. > :25:54.It came out at that moment. What happens from here? You are
:25:55. > :26:02.incredibly close but your lives must be so much richer. Australia
:26:02. > :26:10.next. You are all salted for holidays. We are already planning.
:26:10. > :26:17.-- sorting. We will be on the internet. We will make plans. There
:26:17. > :26:22.are plans in the works. My sister and I are going to see about
:26:22. > :26:27.Australia. We are already hoping to do something. You look so happy. It
:26:27. > :26:33.is magical. You are very excited because we have Engelbert
:26:33. > :26:38.Humperdinck on. You have seen him in Tampa, haven't you? Can he do it
:26:38. > :26:43.for Eurovision? He is representing as in the Eurovision Song Contest
:26:43. > :26:51.will start I did not know anything about that. Do not go back to
:26:51. > :26:56.America! We are going to go live to the crystal ball. Scott Mills is
:26:56. > :27:03.covering Eurovision for BBC Three. He is with Engelbert Humperdinck
:27:03. > :27:09.now. Can you hear us? It is midnight over there. It is. It is
:27:09. > :27:15.about a million degrees in the stadium. I am with the man who is
:27:15. > :27:22.the only hope for us in the UK - Engelbert Humperdinck. I have seen
:27:22. > :27:28.your rehearsal. Arlene Phillips has been involved. She has been amazing.
:27:28. > :27:35.She has given me the professional tips I needed. We stand a good
:27:35. > :27:40.chance. How are you feeling? I am first on. First out of the gate is
:27:40. > :27:45.good. You can get out there and tried to keep the lead. If tonight
:27:45. > :27:53.we have the semi-finals on BBC Three at 8pm. There are two to
:27:53. > :28:00.watch out for. The first is the Russian grannies. They are from a
:28:00. > :28:07.little town in Russia. They are trying to get funds to rebuild
:28:07. > :28:12.their church, which Stalin knocked down 70 years ago. The other ones
:28:12. > :28:18.are Jedward. What you think of that? One is for the very young and
:28:18. > :28:22.the others up for the adults. Both are very talented people. I
:28:22. > :28:28.consider them competition and I hope they consider meat like that
:28:28. > :28:34.as well. You have been here for a few days. How are you finding it?
:28:34. > :28:40.The whole thing is magnificent. Security is really tight. I could
:28:40. > :28:46.not get in tonight. More security than you have ever seen before.
:28:46. > :28:53.is an amazing place. It is beautiful. We will see you on the
:28:53. > :28:59.final on BBC One on Saturday. Join me and Sarah Cox on BBC Three at
:29:00. > :29:04.8pm for the Russian grannies and Jedward life. The semi-finals are
:29:04. > :29:09.on BBC sleep tonight and Thursday and the finals are on Saturday. --
:29:09. > :29:14.BBC Three. Can he cut through the political nonsense and win it for
:29:15. > :29:19.us? Absolutely. He was on the circuit in the sixties when he was
:29:19. > :29:26.up against the best competition in the world and he still held his own.