:00:20. > :00:24.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones and Matt Baker.
:00:24. > :00:30.Tonight we have a politician who is not afraid to get his hands dirty.
:00:30. > :00:37.Earlier this month he did a series of police raids, taking on the bad
:00:37. > :00:42.guys. Here he is, holding the door open. He is going in! The police
:00:42. > :00:52.are obviously very happy to have him there. The suspect not so
:00:52. > :01:01.
:01:01. > :01:05.You can stay here as long as you want! It is Boris Johnson. That was
:01:05. > :01:09.something called Operation Target, which we will talk about in a while,
:01:09. > :01:13.but you have just come from a meeting with the Olympics Committee,
:01:13. > :01:19.haven't you? Did you bring up the fact that you didn't get any
:01:19. > :01:23.tickets? I did. I was one of many who found the computer said no the
:01:23. > :01:30.other day and I was extremely hacked off, as you can imagine, but
:01:30. > :01:34.I will have another go on Friday. Today, people who have been lucky
:01:34. > :01:39.have found out which allocations they have got. Do you think the
:01:39. > :01:42.system has been handled as well as it could have been? You speak to
:01:42. > :01:46.the Olympics guys, this is something they have been bracing
:01:46. > :01:51.for because they always knew the public would be disappointed. There
:01:51. > :02:00.would never be enough tickets to satisfy demand. What I would say to
:02:00. > :02:05.people, particularly in London, her larder so -- who are disappointed,
:02:05. > :02:10.hundreds of thousands of people will be able to get into the live
:02:10. > :02:17.sites, watch the thing and maybe we can even get some of the athletes
:02:17. > :02:21.in so they can feel they have taken part. First of all, we are going
:02:21. > :02:24.back to crime-busting. For years, the police have struggled to track
:02:24. > :02:28.criminals with information travelling slower between forces
:02:29. > :02:33.than the suspects themselves. answer is a new central database,
:02:33. > :02:41.launched tomorrow. The problem is you could be on it, even if you
:02:41. > :02:46.have done nothing wrong. Caught on camera, again and again and again.
:02:46. > :02:51.A gang targeting cash points at Tesco stores across nine different
:02:51. > :02:55.police force areas. The nine months, the criminals found it easy to stay
:02:55. > :02:59.one step ahead of the law. That is because individual police forces
:03:00. > :03:03.have not had a joined-up intelligence system. If they wanted
:03:03. > :03:08.to get information from each other, not only could that request take
:03:08. > :03:12.days, but vital information could also be missed. When the gang
:03:12. > :03:16.struck, by the time the lead investigators found out, it was
:03:16. > :03:20.often too late. Crucial opportunities to gather evidence
:03:20. > :03:24.had been missed. There were some tyre tracks left outside a cash
:03:24. > :03:28.machine on a particular night, which from a time perspective we
:03:28. > :03:32.didn't know about and the cleaner mopped the tyre tracks a way which
:03:32. > :03:36.means that evidence has gone forever.
:03:36. > :03:41.With the help of in-house security from Tesco, the gang were
:03:41. > :03:45.eventually caught, but only after they had helped themselves to more
:03:45. > :03:51.than �1 million in cash. Was it embarrassing? It was very
:03:51. > :03:54.frustrating, particularly when Tesco were saying they had had five
:03:54. > :04:01.offences and really knew about three of them. For now police
:04:01. > :04:07.forces will be able to communicate more efficiently. It is a legacy of
:04:07. > :04:11.the so one murders. Ian Huntley had been able to get a job working in a
:04:11. > :04:16.school because police officers didn't have any way to share
:04:17. > :04:26.information about previous allegations of the threat he posed
:04:27. > :04:28.
:04:28. > :04:30.to girls. After his conviction, a government inquiry recommended
:04:30. > :04:38.setting up a national police information database. Now, seven
:04:38. > :04:44.years later, the system is about to go live. It is going well. We are
:04:44. > :04:48.95% there. This gives you routinely electronic accessible information
:04:48. > :04:53.for every police force across the country, and that cuts down the
:04:53. > :05:01.chance of people not accessing it, and increases the chance of picking
:05:01. > :05:05.up names. If you are arrested and you find yourself in a cell like
:05:05. > :05:15.this, you might expect of end up on a police database, but what about
:05:15. > :05:17.
:05:17. > :05:21.the rest of us? Some estimate that others could find themselves on the
:05:21. > :05:25.police database. Some people who have never even been in custody,
:05:25. > :05:30.that is because if an allegation has been made about you or your
:05:30. > :05:35.name has come up in a police interview, that is classed as
:05:35. > :05:38.intelligence and is likely to be on the database. Is this another step
:05:38. > :05:42.towards an out of control surveillance society? Police say
:05:42. > :05:47.the numbers will eventually come down but up to 6 million innocent
:05:47. > :05:51.people could find themselves on the database. When you are putting such
:05:51. > :05:56.a vast amount of information, information about 6 million people
:05:56. > :06:01.who may be innocent, it only clouds the issue and opens up the database
:06:01. > :06:05.to date a loss and violates the civil liberties of many people.
:06:05. > :06:10.Police will say there is no new information here, they are just
:06:10. > :06:16.joining databases that have already existed. There is no problem with
:06:16. > :06:26.sharing information, but when it comes to holding information about
:06:26. > :06:29.
:06:29. > :06:33.people who are victims of crimes, Whether or not this man is
:06:33. > :06:37.convicted of a crime, from tomorrow his details will end up on the
:06:37. > :06:43.database, and 12,000 specially trained people will have access to
:06:43. > :06:47.it. But senior officers insist the information will not be misused,
:06:47. > :06:52.and this will be an important aid to policing. Is it fair to have a
:06:52. > :06:57.database that has loads of innocent people on it? Intelligence is just
:06:57. > :07:02.intelligence and we know that, we are trained to understand that. It
:07:02. > :07:05.is the lifeblood of policing. If the only information we could use
:07:05. > :07:10.is the stuff resulting directly from convictions, we would have a
:07:11. > :07:15.very poor picture on which to base our deployments. We need to use
:07:15. > :07:20.intelligence, and we needed to join it up as well. A quarter of the
:07:20. > :07:23.population will be on this list and many of those will be innocent. How
:07:23. > :07:28.do you feel about it? This is one of those really difficult ones
:07:28. > :07:34.because you don't want people's civil liberties infringed, but when
:07:34. > :07:39.you look at the cases they are now solving with DNA, particularly the
:07:39. > :07:43.murders in so am, you have got to think it is a sensible way forward.
:07:43. > :07:48.Many people will be interested in how you are cracking down on
:07:49. > :07:53.burglaries. That guy we tracked down early in the morning, he was
:07:53. > :07:57.admittedly amazed to see me at the end of his bed, and you can expect
:07:57. > :08:04.that it was not surprising he was a little bit flummoxed but he wasn't
:08:04. > :08:09.as angry as all that. But come up operation... Operation Target
:08:09. > :08:14.sounds direct, what are you doing? We are dealing with a rise in
:08:14. > :08:20.burglary and robbery, and this has been caused by a small number of
:08:20. > :08:25.people who are basically traded in stolen iPhones and that kind of
:08:25. > :08:29.thing. We target them and we can bring down those crimes as well.
:08:29. > :08:35.Crime in general is down by about 10% across the board in the last
:08:35. > :08:41.three years, and Operation is about arresting a particular number of
:08:41. > :08:46.known people who are aggravating the problem of robbery. We had
:08:46. > :08:51.taken loads of guns, ammunition, and it is hitting the hardened
:08:51. > :08:54.customers. It is definitely a positive step, but you say you are
:08:54. > :08:59.cutting crime but your opponents say you are cutting down on the
:08:59. > :09:04.police force so how can you do both? We are not cutting down on
:09:04. > :09:09.the police force. By the end of next year in 2012, we will have
:09:09. > :09:14.about 1000 more warranted offices in London than there were when I
:09:14. > :09:19.took over in 2008. You have got to get police out there, and we will
:09:19. > :09:26.be doing that. I never tire of telling Meyer Bloomberg of New York,
:09:26. > :09:30.London is now one of the safest big cities in the world. No murder rate
:09:30. > :09:34.in London is down to the lowest it has been for about 30 years so the
:09:35. > :09:40.police are doing a fantastic job. We can't avoid this subject - you
:09:40. > :09:45.have just lost your cultural strategy manager for shoplifting!
:09:45. > :09:51.How embarrassing?! He had been promoted to my cultural strategy
:09:51. > :09:55.manager, it is perfectly true. I don't know what it plays, I read
:09:55. > :09:59.what I read in the pages of the Evening Standard where he gave an
:09:59. > :10:04.interview that seemed to suggest that was the case. Have you checked
:10:04. > :10:08.the office since he has gone? paper clips? We run a very tight
:10:08. > :10:16.ship. We have cut down in waste so dramatically there is very little
:10:16. > :10:22.to steal. On to Glastonbury, U2 are playing this weekend but the crowds
:10:22. > :10:26.will not just before screaming fans. Protesters plan to demonstrate
:10:27. > :10:31.against U2 von not paying their fair share of taxes. A avoiding tax
:10:31. > :10:35.is not just for rock stars. Paying as little as possible is big
:10:35. > :10:41.business for those who can afford it. A new type of activist is
:10:41. > :10:46.emerging. They are not protesting against countries or dictators,
:10:46. > :10:55.their target are some of the richest companies and individuals
:10:55. > :11:00.in the UK, and the charge is tax avoidance. Their target now, U2.
:11:00. > :11:05.This man is accused of depriving the Irish government of the huge
:11:06. > :11:09.sums of money by moving some of his business to Holland. Richard Brooks
:11:09. > :11:13.is a tax inspector turned journalist. Talk me through tax
:11:13. > :11:19.avoidance, what does it mean? Reducing your tax bill by illegal
:11:19. > :11:23.means. The favourite method is to move your money offshore. You can
:11:23. > :11:28.exploit the international system, you can exploit the tax havens
:11:28. > :11:33.around the world so you do not even need loopholes in the system.
:11:33. > :11:37.are not breaking any laws? No, but they are costing the rest of us
:11:37. > :11:43.tens of billions of pounds. A even the people who collect the taxes
:11:43. > :11:47.have dealt with an offshore company. In 2001, the Inland Revenue sold
:11:47. > :11:53.off and then leased back a big chunk of its own property. Who did
:11:53. > :11:59.they sell it to? A company based in the offshore tax haven of Bermuda.
:11:59. > :12:04.They had to admit that it cost the taxpayers millions of pounds. A bit
:12:04. > :12:07.ever known goal? Do you reckon? But surely, with money increasingly
:12:07. > :12:13.tight these days, the government is now doing everything it can to
:12:13. > :12:16.crack down on those avoiding tax - right? Wrong, according to some
:12:16. > :12:22.people. They are saying the government is actually making
:12:22. > :12:27.things worse. Graham Black is the President of the union for senior
:12:27. > :12:34.tax inspectors. Since Revenue and Customs came into being, it has
:12:34. > :12:40.fallen from 99,000 staff to around 64,000. At a time when everybody is
:12:41. > :12:46.feeling the pinch, why should HMRC and your members be any different?
:12:46. > :12:50.It is a false economy. If you invest in HMRC, you get more money
:12:50. > :12:54.to the Exchequer. It is as if we are giving the government a winning
:12:54. > :12:59.lottery ticket and they will not spend �1 to get the major prize.
:12:59. > :13:05.may not be a household name, but this man is the Treasury minister
:13:05. > :13:10.whose job it is to stop tax avoidance. The individuals who will
:13:10. > :13:15.be laid off are some of the people at the very top of HMRC. They will
:13:15. > :13:19.bring in the most money - isn't it lunacy to get rid of them? We don't
:13:19. > :13:23.believe that will happen. We believe the people who can get the
:13:23. > :13:28.money in will be capped. There are areas where, because of new
:13:28. > :13:32.technology, we can make savings. Over the next few years we will see
:13:32. > :13:36.the number of tax inspectors are increasing, and more money going
:13:36. > :13:41.into the training. Are you asking me to believe that the cuts you
:13:41. > :13:49.have made will not affect the amount of revenue you take in?
:13:49. > :13:56.the end of the spending room -- review period, we expect to get �7
:13:56. > :14:00.billion more than we would have without the investment. Some people
:14:00. > :14:05.estimate it is costing us as much as �25 billion a year. That could
:14:05. > :14:11.fund the running of every state secondary school in the UK. It
:14:11. > :14:17.could build 50 state-of-the-art hospitals, or it could pay for 4
:14:17. > :14:27.million lollipop ladies. We don't need 4 million lollipop ladies. But
:14:27. > :14:30.We do get the point. Well, we got in touch with U2, and unfortunately
:14:30. > :14:34.they weren't available to comment on Friday's planned protests.
:14:34. > :14:38.People will want to know where politicians stand on this. Do you
:14:38. > :14:47.take steps to pay as little tax as you can legally? If I would, I
:14:47. > :14:51.could, but no, I cough up whatever the tax man asks and so should Bono
:14:51. > :14:52.- pro Bono publico! Pronounce his name correctly!
:14:52. > :14:56.LAUGHTER I was interested in the report
:14:56. > :15:01.there. That's a lot of money they're going to bring in by those
:15:01. > :15:05.measures, and quite right too. Governments across Europe need all
:15:05. > :15:10.the money they can get but you have said you think we should let Greece
:15:10. > :15:12.go bankrupt, so a year from now, do you think we'll see another
:15:12. > :15:16.financial meltdown? I think Greece is getting itself into a very
:15:16. > :15:21.difficult position where people are accepting more and more cuts to
:15:21. > :15:24.their standard of living, people losing their jobs, benefit going
:15:24. > :15:29.and all the rest of it and all, really, so that they can stay in
:15:29. > :15:37.the euro, and you've got to ask yourself at least the question -
:15:37. > :15:41.would they perhaps be better off going for a new drachma, devaluing,
:15:41. > :15:45.redenominating their debts, putting their hands up and saying, we have
:15:45. > :15:48.to try something else, because if you look at the experience of Latin
:15:48. > :15:51.American countries who had been pegged to the dollar for too long -
:15:51. > :15:55.you think of what happened to the UK after we came out of the ERM in
:15:55. > :15:58.the early '90ss, actually, devaluation, being able to cut
:15:58. > :16:01.interest rates prayer docksically - everybody said we wouldn't be able
:16:01. > :16:05.to cut interest rate, but we did - it might be the best thing for
:16:05. > :16:08.Greece. A lot of people disagree. A lot of people say did convulsion
:16:08. > :16:11.would be too great. The knock-on effect on the banking system would
:16:11. > :16:16.be too disastrous. British banks would be badly affected. You have
:16:16. > :16:19.to keep the whole show on the road, kick the can down the road. I
:16:19. > :16:25.understand that argument. But what I worry about is that if a
:16:25. > :16:29.constantly waiting and waiting for the Greeks to default, constantly
:16:29. > :16:32.the victims of this potential crisis - we'll never really have
:16:32. > :16:34.confidence again. We'll not have confidence again any time soon.
:16:35. > :16:40.Now, for families who desperately want a child, surrogacy can be the
:16:40. > :16:42.next best thing to a natural birth. It's hard to imagine the emotions
:16:42. > :16:47.involved for the couple seeing their baby grow inside another
:16:47. > :16:50.woman, and, of course, for the surrogate, who has to hand over the
:16:50. > :16:53.newborn child. But more than a hundred families do it every year,
:16:53. > :16:59.and Lady Pauline Prescott went to meet one of them.
:16:59. > :17:02.This is the top of the baby's head. This is a routine scan, but also an
:17:02. > :17:07.unusual one. Tania is the biological mother of the unborn
:17:07. > :17:14.child, but she isn't the one being scanned. Nikki, the lady on the
:17:14. > :17:19.bench, is a surrogate. She's carrying Tania and Douglas's baby
:17:19. > :17:24.boy conceived by IVF. It has been a fascinating day, one that started
:17:24. > :17:33.early in the morning at Douglas and Tania's home in Glasgow. How lovely
:17:33. > :17:37.to meet you. Tea? How did you turn to surrogacy? What sort of made you
:17:37. > :17:41.think this could be an option? were pregnant with our third child
:17:41. > :17:46.in 2009. We've got two lovely boys, and we were so delighted to hear
:17:46. > :17:51.that we were having a daughter this time. Tragically, during the labour,
:17:52. > :18:00.we lost her. Helloa survived for just a few precious minutes. I
:18:00. > :18:04.managed to hold her for about 20 minutes until she died. They didn't
:18:04. > :18:09.tell me about how ill our other child was because she almost didn't
:18:09. > :18:13.make it home either. The grief has been so bad for all the family,
:18:13. > :18:18.Douglas, myself... The two boys were absolutely devastated. They
:18:18. > :18:23.were looking forward to their wee sister coming home for six months.
:18:23. > :18:28.How do you explain to your children that she died? You can't leave your
:18:28. > :18:35.family with that gaping hole. We don't feel complete. Their
:18:35. > :18:40.solution was surrogacy through a charity called COTS. Tania can't
:18:40. > :18:44.carry children anymore, but following successful IVF treatment,
:18:44. > :18:48.their details were sent to surrogates. We weren't sure whether
:18:48. > :18:52.we would be chosen because we did have children, but Nikki did choose
:18:52. > :18:56.us specifically because we did have children and had lost our wee girl,
:18:56. > :19:00.and I think she just - she felt - she could really feel the pain we
:19:00. > :19:06.were going through. Now we're going along to meet the surrogate, Nikki,
:19:06. > :19:11.and when I was a young girl, I too had to hand a baby over. I had my
:19:11. > :19:15.child adopted, so I do know the feelings. I'd be very interested to
:19:15. > :19:19.find out how she's coping with that. Nikki is married with four children,
:19:19. > :19:24.and her decision to become a surrogate is backed by her family.
:19:24. > :19:28.She's not motivated by money. In Britain, surrogates only receive
:19:28. > :19:32.what's called "reasonable expenses". Why did you become a surrogate?
:19:32. > :19:36.When I had my eldest, I saw a programme on surrogacy, and I just
:19:37. > :19:44.knew it was something I could do, and to me, it's just something I
:19:44. > :19:47.can give back. Why did you choose to have baby for Tania and Douglas?
:19:47. > :19:52.When I read Tania and Douglas's profile, their wee boy wanted to
:19:52. > :19:55.get in an aeroplane and go to heaven and bring their child the
:19:55. > :19:59.medicine so he could make Herbert and bring her home. That just
:19:59. > :20:04.rubbed at my heart. Do you have any doubtss that you will be able to
:20:04. > :20:11.hand the baby over? Absolutely none. It's not my baby. It's Tauntaun's
:20:11. > :20:17.wee boy. I can't wait to hand him over. What could be more great a
:20:17. > :20:21.gift than giving somebody a child? Before the baby's born, Tania faces
:20:21. > :20:28.a really bittersweet moment. this is lovely. Yeah. This is
:20:28. > :20:33.Lola's nursery. It's never been redecorated. It's a very emotive
:20:33. > :20:38.room for me. Yes. We're just going through the stage at the moment of
:20:38. > :20:42.turning this into a room for a little boy. How do you feel about
:20:42. > :20:47.making the change? It's a tough one. It is a tough one, yes. It is a
:20:47. > :20:52.very tough one, but it's a change for a very positive reason. Yes.
:20:52. > :20:57.How do you feel about another woman having your baby? There's some
:20:57. > :21:01.feelings of jealousy. Yeah. Once you have carried baby and know what
:21:01. > :21:06.that is like, to have somebody else do that for you... Yes. You're
:21:06. > :21:10.missing something. That's right. Yes, I can feel that. But I think
:21:10. > :21:17.there is somebody out there that's willing to help us complete our
:21:17. > :21:20.family is absolutely incredible. This is a poignant tale of loss and
:21:20. > :21:26.renewed hope. Tania and Douglas will be in the maternity suite when
:21:26. > :21:31.the baby is born. He'll be handed straight to Tania, not to Nikki.
:21:31. > :21:36.It's mind-blowing, really, you know? It's - there's no attachment.
:21:36. > :21:42.He's a cute wee boy, and I can't wait for him to go home to his mum
:21:42. > :21:47.and dad, but that's it. It's amazing. Absolutely incredible. And
:21:47. > :21:51.he's all yours. He certainly is! Wow. That was filmed a few months
:21:51. > :21:55.ago, and tomorrow, mum, dad and baby are going to be joining us
:21:55. > :21:59.here in the studio, so we're really looking forward to that.
:21:59. > :22:04.Speaking of families, you Johnsons are a bit like the Kennedys really
:22:04. > :22:07.- your dad, yourself... Charlie Kennedy. Three of you were in
:22:07. > :22:12.politics. Any plans, do you think, for your children to follow suit
:22:12. > :22:15.and go into politics? I... Are they showing any... I don't - I don't
:22:15. > :22:18.think it's - I think it would be very unwise of me to speculate.
:22:18. > :22:23.Fair enough. It seems like you've got a lot of similarities between
:22:24. > :22:30.you and your dad, but what about your mum? We don't hear much about
:22:30. > :22:37.her. My mother! Uh, you want to talk about my mother. She's a
:22:37. > :22:42.brilliant artist. I'm nothing like her, but I love painting, and I try
:22:42. > :22:46.to - do you know you can buy a box of French cheese in the supermarket.
:22:46. > :22:52.Yeah. They have these beautiful little boxes. I like covering them
:22:52. > :22:57.with white paint, then painting on them. Sounds great. Bring one in
:22:57. > :22:59.next time. Like in primary school. As a politician, you know you
:22:59. > :23:09.shouldn't count your chickens, but if you have them in your back
:23:09. > :23:15.
:23:15. > :23:19.The chickens here on our farm live a life similar to their ancestors.
:23:19. > :23:23.We pretty much leave them to their own devices to roost and forage
:23:23. > :23:27.wherever they want. The life span of a chicken could be up to 20
:23:27. > :23:32.years, but unfortunately, not all are this lucky. Commercial egg-
:23:32. > :23:35.laying hens live in a very unnatural environment. After only
:23:35. > :23:40.one year, egg productivity begins to fall, and they're slaughtered.
:23:40. > :23:45.But despite their ragged appearance, every year over 60,000 of us get
:23:45. > :23:52.all clucky over them and give them a second chance. However, rehoming
:23:52. > :23:55.a chicken in your garden is not always straight forward. The One
:23:55. > :24:00.Show viewer Josie has adopted hens before and has recently taken in
:24:00. > :24:05.more of them to add to her flock. So what made you think of getting
:24:05. > :24:09.these chickens? We moved into the house four years ago, and we had
:24:09. > :24:13.this big garden space, and the kids love them. Yeah, they're just
:24:13. > :24:17.lovely creatures to have around. Are you having any problems? Yeah.
:24:17. > :24:21.The new girls - they have been in a large flock of about a thousand
:24:21. > :24:25.chickens before. From the looks of them, it looks as though there has
:24:25. > :24:30.been some serious feather pecking going on. Are they still doing
:24:30. > :24:34.that? They are. There is a bit of a worry that that might cause a
:24:34. > :24:40.nightmare problem, really. Domesticated over 5,000 years ago,
:24:40. > :24:46.all breeds of chickens descend from the red jungle foul of Asia. --
:24:46. > :24:51.fowl of Asia. Here, they inhabit the complex
:24:51. > :24:55.world of the forest floor, and that's what we need to recreate in
:24:55. > :25:00.order to reawaken the natural instincts of her chickens. To help
:25:00. > :25:04.me, I have Christine Nicole from the University of Bristol. She
:25:04. > :25:07.studies chickens, and her area of work looks at how the chicken and
:25:07. > :25:11.egg industries can improve their welfare. Well, you've got two very
:25:11. > :25:16.different groups here, haven't you? Some look huge and big and sleek,
:25:16. > :25:19.and these, I guess, are the newer arrivals. Yeah, the new ones, as
:25:19. > :25:24.you can see. They do form this pecking order. One chicken is boss
:25:24. > :25:28.of the next one, and the next one is boss of the one after. Right.
:25:28. > :25:33.But sometimes chickens get a bit confused, and these ones will be
:25:33. > :25:37.because they've only just met. ball areas - they're looking a
:25:37. > :25:40.bit... Yes, here we have something we need to solve as a problem I
:25:40. > :25:44.think. Although it looks like that might be part of this aggression
:25:44. > :25:49.we're talking about, that's a mistake to think of. It's not
:25:49. > :25:53.aggressive at all. It's related to their natural foraging and feeding
:25:53. > :25:56.behaviour. Chickens are very, very curious animals. In the jungle
:25:56. > :26:00.where they came from, they would spend most of the day pecking
:26:00. > :26:04.around and looking for food, and they've still got that instinct. In
:26:04. > :26:09.a commercial system, it's not really giving them that level of
:26:09. > :26:14.excitement of different things to peck at. So they get bored? They
:26:14. > :26:19.not so much as get bored, but they try to find the most interesting
:26:19. > :26:23.thing to peck at. One possible solution to her problem is to
:26:23. > :26:26.provide more interesting objects in the chickens' foraging environment.
:26:26. > :26:31.I have a real mixture of things in here. Time for Christine's box of
:26:31. > :26:36.tricks. The first thing I'm going to suggest is we perhaps hide some
:26:36. > :26:42.treats in here for them... Right. And this would work well as a
:26:42. > :26:46.short-term distraction. Oh, yeah! They love pulling things apart, so
:26:46. > :26:50.a bale of hay continues to change, so it keeps them interested for
:26:50. > :26:55.much longer. Here, girls. Have a go with that.
:26:55. > :26:59.So in no time at all the pecking order will be sorted, their
:26:59. > :27:01.feathers regrown, and the girls will have discovered their inner
:27:01. > :27:09.chicken. It's all getting very exciting here,
:27:09. > :27:15.as you can see. We have a tennis table in The One Show. At the last
:27:15. > :27:18.Olympics you famously said this: saw to the Chinese and I say to the
:27:18. > :27:23.world, ping-pong is coming home. APPLAUSE
:27:23. > :27:29.Yes, it's coming all the way here to The One Show studio. We thought
:27:29. > :27:33.we'd have a quick game - Boris Johnson versus our very own Matt
:27:33. > :27:42.Baker. Since Matt isn't very good, I am going to try to put you off by
:27:42. > :27:46.asking you some questions as you and Boris is on fire. Here we go.
:27:47. > :27:55.You just launched a literacy project with Peter Andre. Can you
:27:55. > :28:00.name one of his songs, and can you sing it? Peter Andre is a brilliant
:28:00. > :28:05.singer. I would say Mysterious Girl. He's just got me!
:28:05. > :28:08.You have plan to build 30-storey towers to block the view from David
:28:08. > :28:17.Cameron's house. Was this deliberate? Pass. I can't remember
:28:17. > :28:21.- no, I can't comment on planning. OK. Who do you fear most at the
:28:21. > :28:29.next election, Ken Livingstone or Lembit Opik? I think apathy.
:28:29. > :28:33.you remember any Welsh? (He speaks Welsh)
:28:33. > :28:37.Your green policy is based on the four green Rs. You failed to
:28:37. > :28:45.remember them in a recent interview. Can you remember them tonight?
:28:45. > :28:49.reuse, recycle, reduce... Good. regurgitate. Brilliant.
:28:49. > :28:52.champion smashed it. Good luck with getting the Olympic tickets on