:00:21. > :00:26.Hello and welcome to One Show with Angellica Bell. And Matt Baker.
:00:27. > :00:30.Tonight's guest is shown he'll do whatever it takes to get big
:00:31. > :00:39.interviews. He charmed Pavarotti by tracing his feet and buying him a
:00:40. > :00:44.new pair of custom shoes. He waited seven hours for Paul McCartney.
:00:45. > :00:49.# Live and let die. And insisted on composing a song about him before
:00:50. > :00:53.they started. And he agreed to Barbara Cartland's demands to wear a
:00:54. > :00:58.dinner jacket while listening to her dictating a novel to the secretary.
:00:59. > :01:04.We just asked if he said yes. Melvyn Bragg, you are a pushover! That's an
:01:05. > :01:08.interesting bunch of anecdotes to reminisce over. Which one do you
:01:09. > :01:13.want to go for? I don't know where to start! Barbara Cartland was
:01:14. > :01:19.wonderful. She was nearly deaf. Her famous remark was that she wrote
:01:20. > :01:24.hundreds of novels and that she had cornered the market in virgins,
:01:25. > :01:29.darling. So she said to you, but a dinner jacket on. Guess, but the
:01:30. > :01:33.jacket on, put a tie on, and speak up because I'm deaf. She is a
:01:34. > :01:38.smashing old lady, but I am sitting there shouting at her. My friends
:01:39. > :01:41.didn't think I was a good job. She was great. She had thousands of
:01:42. > :01:46.dresses and she said, would you like to have a look? It was like being in
:01:47. > :01:52.a labyrinth of silk. I sort of got lost. I was putting my hand out and
:01:53. > :01:56.saying, can somebody get me out of here? That is what it is like in
:01:57. > :02:03.Alex's dressing room! Don't say that! The new 12 sided pound coin
:02:04. > :02:07.was released into the wild three months ago, but there is a problem.
:02:08. > :02:13.Many councils and companies are not ready to accept them. Andy has been
:02:14. > :02:17.to visit some frustrated people who can't make head nor tail of the
:02:18. > :02:22.situation. Britain's shiny new ?1 coin,
:02:23. > :02:27.released with much pizzazz by the Royal Mint in March, but shortly
:02:28. > :02:30.there will be hundreds of millions of them in circulation so you'd
:02:31. > :02:36.imagine you'd be able to go anywhere and use them, even Britain's much
:02:37. > :02:43.loved parking machines. Perhaps not everywhere. Not just yet. With up to
:02:44. > :02:49.one quarter of the country's meter is still not upgraded to take the
:02:50. > :02:55.new coin. Noble is causing exasperation across car parks.
:02:56. > :03:01.That's despite a year's noticed for the owners, private and local
:03:02. > :03:08.authority. Not in this one. Including Norwich council. This car
:03:09. > :03:10.park is right under their noses. Can you believe it? The council sit
:03:11. > :03:18.there in their big building and they can't get a machine to take the new
:03:19. > :03:20.Queen's coins. The British parking association, which represents the
:03:21. > :03:28.industry, suggests we all carry a range of coins. So you have to go to
:03:29. > :03:33.a nearby restaurant... And what happened? I said I've got three new
:03:34. > :03:37.pound coins, and they got any change? They emptied out their tips
:03:38. > :03:43.jar to try and find old ones. Wright and see what they think of it at a
:03:44. > :03:51.restaurant. On Saturday, it slows us down. Sometimes we don't have change
:03:52. > :03:55.for people. And that's our fault! You can sometimes pay by mobile, but
:03:56. > :03:58.it might cost more. So some drivers have tried other solutions. Like
:03:59. > :04:06.Sheila from Dunbar in south-east Scotland. If I can get the kit
:04:07. > :04:11.working, I'm going to chat to her. Hi, Sheila. She had money but the
:04:12. > :04:16.machine rejected her new pound coins. I wrote a note stating my
:04:17. > :04:20.intention to pay and I left it on the dashboard with the change in
:04:21. > :04:27.full view for the attendant to see it. Great idea, but sadly it didn't
:04:28. > :04:31.work. I came back to find a nice big parking ticket on my car. She
:04:32. > :04:35.appealed and the charge was dropped, but the legal position for drivers
:04:36. > :04:40.like her who don't have an old pound coin has yet to be tested in court.
:04:41. > :04:43.The British parking association advises its members that it would be
:04:44. > :04:48.unfair to penalised somebody in that position and they remind the car
:04:49. > :04:51.park is that it's their responsibility to find some other
:04:52. > :04:56.method of paying or to find a machine that actually works. Norwich
:04:57. > :05:00.council says, with many metres already adjusted, it's done all it
:05:01. > :05:03.can and is in a queue waiting for the remainder, but the British
:05:04. > :05:11.parking association admits it's a problem everywhere, so what's taken
:05:12. > :05:14.so long? To find out, I joined this man from the metric parking group,
:05:15. > :05:18.who maintain parking meters for businesses and councils nationwide.
:05:19. > :05:21.They are not responsible for the city centre car park but they do
:05:22. > :05:27.have two micromachines left to convert in Norwich. What is the
:05:28. > :05:32.mission this morning? We are on the way to one of our customers to
:05:33. > :05:37.upgrade their machines to accept the new coins. About 16,000 machines
:05:38. > :05:41.need upgrading. We have upgraded about 14,000. It is some months
:05:42. > :05:46.since the introduction of the coin. While you still converting machines?
:05:47. > :05:52.We wrote our customers last year. The delays were caused by customers
:05:53. > :05:57.placing orders. The British parking association says the huge number of
:05:58. > :06:01.machines needing to be adapted is unprecedented and they are aware of
:06:02. > :06:05.the bedrock. In October, the old coins stop being legal tender. We
:06:06. > :06:11.have arrived at Wroxham on the Norfolk Broads, where car park is
:06:12. > :06:18.all resorting to desperate measures. In sync of it will go straight in.
:06:19. > :06:28.And you just have the new coins? That's what I've got. How much do
:06:29. > :06:32.you need?? ?1. With 1500 machines to sort out before October, when the
:06:33. > :06:37.old pound coins are withdrawn, he is up against the clock. That wasn't
:06:38. > :06:41.too bad, just under 15 minutes. Just the ticket. Let's hope we can get
:06:42. > :06:47.the problem well and truly parked everywhere. Something has just
:06:48. > :06:56.occurred to me. When we arrived, did we get a parking ticket? We didn't,
:06:57. > :07:01.did we? No, we didn't. Good man, Andy. Let us know in the usual
:07:02. > :07:05.places if you've had a problem spending a new pound coin and maybe
:07:06. > :07:11.we will send Andy round. You cancel it out. Melvyn, you are hosting the
:07:12. > :07:16.upcoming South Bank Awards, in its 21st year. We are going to talk
:07:17. > :07:20.about the TV and music nominations in a moment, but give us a flavour
:07:21. > :07:25.of the others. There is nothing like in the world. We have it in London
:07:26. > :07:30.and it goes around the country. It is just the art, but ever since I
:07:31. > :07:33.started the South Bank Show in the 70s, art included pop music,
:07:34. > :07:39.classical music, television drama, west End drama, comedy as well as
:07:40. > :07:43.literature and so on. All of those different people are under one roof
:07:44. > :07:49.at the same time, and it's nice to see them in each other up and
:07:50. > :07:55.wondering, who's that? Some energy! Who is that long-haired person? It's
:07:56. > :08:00.not a museum, -- a musician, it's a pop museum. We have had wonderful
:08:01. > :08:07.people make the awards. And people enjoy getting prizes. It's a good
:08:08. > :08:11.time to be two or three things. It's a good time to see the best people
:08:12. > :08:14.celebrated from this country right across the board. That's one of the
:08:15. > :08:20.reasons I started the South Bank Show. Particularly now, it's a good
:08:21. > :08:24.time, when people are thinking, with some reason, that life is terrible
:08:25. > :08:29.so we have to concentrate on the serious things all the time, and one
:08:30. > :08:34.of those of the arts, music, dancing, pleasure, Reading. That is
:08:35. > :08:37.one of the serious things, so we are doing that kind of serious thing,
:08:38. > :08:47.enjoyment and pleasure. Television is another category, and The Crown
:08:48. > :08:53.is nominated alongside National Treasure and Happy Valley. I hereby
:08:54. > :09:02.declare that I and my children shall be styled and known as the house and
:09:03. > :09:09.family of Windsor. And that my descendants, other than female
:09:10. > :09:15.descendants, and their descendants, shall bear the name of Windsor.
:09:16. > :09:21.Well, The Crown was overlooked at the Baftas. You are in competition
:09:22. > :09:25.and peoples views changed and they obviously thought that other things
:09:26. > :09:30.were better. You take it on the chin. Because you are magnificent,
:09:31. > :09:35.as The Crown is, it doesn't mean you are going to win. We were talking
:09:36. > :09:41.about this earlier, but do you think that platforms like Netflix are
:09:42. > :09:43.hindering or boosting television? I think the advancement of television
:09:44. > :09:47.is extraordinary, and the new things that have come along are good. These
:09:48. > :09:51.great long things on Netflix don't take anything away. Everybody is
:09:52. > :09:56.willing to do this, that and the other, but a lot of the drama on
:09:57. > :10:00.BBC, ITV, Sky and so on is better than it's ever been. It's in
:10:01. > :10:05.terrific form. It doesn't work like that. We just think that one thing
:10:06. > :10:10.wiped out another, but we are not built like that. Movies didn't wipe
:10:11. > :10:15.out the theatre. Television didn't wipe out the movies. We go to all of
:10:16. > :10:19.them. We are capable of doing a lot of things, hopping from one thing to
:10:20. > :10:25.another. You have been looking at this in detail for a BBC Two
:10:26. > :10:29.documentary, The Box That Changed The World. Talking of The Crown,
:10:30. > :10:36.inspired by our Queen's rain, talk about communal viewing, and The Box
:10:37. > :10:40.That Changed The World. It did. It is difficult in one respect, masses
:10:41. > :10:44.of clips, archive clips that haven't been seen before, briefly, there has
:10:45. > :10:50.been nothing ever in human history as powerful, I think, as the
:10:51. > :10:55.invention of the television, as powerful to our senses and our
:10:56. > :10:58.minds. We see things that our grandparents and great grandparents
:10:59. > :11:03.never dreamt of seeing, they didn't dream work there, the top of
:11:04. > :11:08.mountains, the bottom of oceans, the man on the moon, famine, war. They
:11:09. > :11:11.are spectators, not participants. That's never happened. It's an
:11:12. > :11:15.extraordinary feast of the world which we don't quite know how to
:11:16. > :11:18.cope with, and I think it is enriching people to an extent that
:11:19. > :11:24.we are hardly aware of it. People read this audience, each one of them
:11:25. > :11:27.probably knows more, as access to more knowledge than the wisest
:11:28. > :11:39.people in the world more than 100 years ago. You can see the Sky Arts
:11:40. > :11:44.South Bank Awards later and that programme is on Saturday July the
:11:45. > :11:48.1st on BBC Two. Yesterday we met Neil Robertson who found himself
:11:49. > :11:52.addicted to online gaming and wanted to protect his six-year-old son from
:11:53. > :11:57.making the same mistake. Today we see what happened when Neil met up
:11:58. > :12:02.with gaming's most dedicated fans to see if they have answers for a
:12:03. > :12:06.growing problem. As a professional sportsman, is Niall's personality to
:12:07. > :12:09.be the best that has fuelled his gaming addiction, but he also feels
:12:10. > :12:14.that game developers should do more to help people like him. The games I
:12:15. > :12:17.have been most addicted to have been the ones that have played on my
:12:18. > :12:24.adult -- on my emotions, ones that are very competitive. Some games out
:12:25. > :12:27.there, when you log in, they say, game responsibly. I think there is
:12:28. > :12:34.probably more that could go into the programming to make those more
:12:35. > :12:38.obvious. Niall is keen to understand how best to manage the amount of
:12:39. > :12:43.time that his six-year-old son spends playing video games, so what
:12:44. > :12:48.do parents and kids at this gaming festival think? What happens when
:12:49. > :12:54.mum says, you've got to get off? But I'm in the middle of a level! What
:12:55. > :13:01.kind of things does your son safe when you tell him to come off?
:13:02. > :13:05.Another hour? Are you worried it could become addicted? Yes, it's a
:13:06. > :13:11.worry that it's so acceptable. If you just said no, all their friends
:13:12. > :13:14.are doing it and they'd want it even more. I'm quite happy for him to go
:13:15. > :13:22.on every day as long as it is limited. My pulls the plug. -- my
:13:23. > :13:26.husband pulls the plug. There would be a time when this would accept
:13:27. > :13:33.only 14th 18-year-olds and now we see people well into their adult
:13:34. > :13:37.years. Do you manage your gaming time OK? I played a lot more games
:13:38. > :13:43.in my teenage years and arguably I'd now say it is time well spent
:13:44. > :13:47.because I'm a so it's research. The UK is the sixth largest games market
:13:48. > :13:54.in the world and last year the industry here was worth a total of
:13:55. > :13:59.?4.3 billion. Andrew Smith is a developer at a small UK company that
:14:00. > :14:03.makes multiplayer online games. Are you aware when you are developing
:14:04. > :14:07.these games how addictive they can be? It would be silly to say we are
:14:08. > :14:11.not. We try and make games that people fall in love with. It's about
:14:12. > :14:14.an emotional connection. In a large part of that can be similar to the
:14:15. > :14:24.features that will make people addicted. Games are a predominant
:14:25. > :14:28.artform of the modern world. Some games have a play to win scenario
:14:29. > :14:34.where, the you spend, it isn't just about going to a shop and spending
:14:35. > :14:38.30, 40 quid, sometimes you need to upgrade, like a ship or a vehicle,
:14:39. > :14:43.and that costs real money. Absolutely. The dream is for our
:14:44. > :14:47.game to be somebody's hobby. Most hobbies allow somebody to spend a
:14:48. > :14:52.fair amount of money, beyond what you would normally associate with a
:14:53. > :14:58.video game in a store. That is the case for many people here today, but
:14:59. > :15:04.what -- at what point does a pastime become an obsession? I have played
:15:05. > :15:09.for 24 hours straight. You have to have your limits. I've had friends
:15:10. > :15:13.who have played for 48 hours. What makes you want to keep playing? It
:15:14. > :15:18.is like escapism. It takes you out of this world. You go into a fantasy
:15:19. > :15:23.world where you can be whoever you want to be and there are things you
:15:24. > :15:27.can't do in the real world. It is clear that young people love their
:15:28. > :15:32.video games and, for the parents, it seems moderation is key. I love the
:15:33. > :15:36.game as much as the kids do but I'm good at structuring my time. It
:15:37. > :15:43.isn't a given right, something you get is a reward for doing your
:15:44. > :15:47.homework. So what is Neil taken away from his experience? Watching my son
:15:48. > :15:51.playing games, I'd always think, these are two addictive, but
:15:52. > :15:55.obviously that is that an element to them, but as parents we have to
:15:56. > :15:58.allow that not happen. For anybody out there who has been in your
:15:59. > :16:05.situation, who can't see the wood for the trees, what advice would you
:16:06. > :16:09.give them? Set realistic goals and don't just say, I'm only going to
:16:10. > :16:12.play for half an hour when realistically it will be two hours.
:16:13. > :16:13.Make sure you do your training and homework first and then you are free
:16:14. > :16:17.to chill out and play games. A lot of mums and dads will be
:16:18. > :16:21.really aware of the effect games have on their kids but there's some
:16:22. > :16:32.science behind it For a lot of people, it is not a
:16:33. > :16:36.problem, but for the small percentage that become dependent, it
:16:37. > :16:42.becomes a serious problem. Researchers have likened it to
:16:43. > :16:47.gambling addiction, it can affect their health and well-being. The
:16:48. > :16:53.researchers have pulled together a warning list. Take away the console
:16:54. > :16:58.and see how they react, see if they become an chess or withdrawn, if
:16:59. > :17:01.they are not eating or sleeping, then maybe it is time to
:17:02. > :17:08.re-evaluate. Prevention is better than your. Talking from a father's
:17:09. > :17:15.perspective, it is hard. You do the time thing, you try to be as
:17:16. > :17:18.amicable as possible, you were talking to lots of desperate
:17:19. > :17:24.parents, it is unknown territory. Help was one word that came to mind.
:17:25. > :17:30.But good old-fashioned boundaries, with a reward system in place. When
:17:31. > :17:33.the gamers have done their dishes, they have chatted around the dinner
:17:34. > :17:40.table, reward them with a designated time on the console. The key thing
:17:41. > :17:45.is the time you finish. Get the old-fashioned egg timer out, the one
:17:46. > :17:49.that rings really loud, and give them a designated time to finish,
:17:50. > :17:52.and maybe give them a ten minute warning, because you cannot just go
:17:53. > :17:59.in and pull the plug. It gives them time to save the game, and say
:18:00. > :18:06.goodbye to their online friends. You will have to get an egg timer!
:18:07. > :18:08.Massive aid timers! Sales will go up!
:18:09. > :18:10.Tower-block residents face an anxious wait for information
:18:11. > :18:13.after today's news that about 600 buildings have some form
:18:14. > :18:17.of cladding on them which could potentially be dangerous.
:18:18. > :18:19.Even people living in blocks without cladding are concerned,
:18:20. > :18:21.and Matt's been to the scene of a previous fire to
:18:22. > :18:28.find out what questions people should be asking.
:18:29. > :18:34.Just a week after the biggest tower block fire in UK history, the fire
:18:35. > :18:42.safety industry has gathered in London at the fire Expo, and the
:18:43. > :18:46.tragedy of Grenfell is a main point of discussion. We are worried that
:18:47. > :18:51.our regulations have been falling behind the scale and scope of what
:18:52. > :18:57.is going on in the fire world of the built environment. With the current
:18:58. > :19:01.safety of buildings at the top of the agenda, the Mayor of London
:19:02. > :19:06.Sadiq Khan has said that some tower blocks from the 60s and 70s may be
:19:07. > :19:11.knocked down, which in the long term they be fine, but if you are putting
:19:12. > :19:15.your children to bed tonight on the 14th floor, it is less than
:19:16. > :19:19.reassuring, so what questions do you need to ask? What documents do you
:19:20. > :19:25.need to see? What does safe look like in a tower block? This is
:19:26. > :19:31.Harrow Court in Stevenage, around the same age as Grenfell. In 2005 a
:19:32. > :19:35.fire caused three deaths, but it did not spread to other areas. The
:19:36. > :19:40.Council fire safety officer is going to show me around. If there is a
:19:41. > :19:46.fire, you need water, and that means you need a dry riser. What does it
:19:47. > :19:51.do? We have a pipe on every floor, there is an outlet, and they pushed
:19:52. > :19:56.the water up to before they needed out. Making sure it is in good
:19:57. > :20:03.order, it would be worth checking. Absolutely. How do you get out of
:20:04. > :20:07.the building? This blog has two stairwells, we go back to Grenfell,
:20:08. > :20:13.a lot of people said they should have been another fire escape. You
:20:14. > :20:21.could still have a new purpose-built block of flats these days that would
:20:22. > :20:27.only have one stairwell. And art sprinklers the answer? Why do we not
:20:28. > :20:32.have one? Our buildings perform admirably, because we have
:20:33. > :20:37.detection, and we keep our corridor is clear, so there should be nothing
:20:38. > :20:40.that will burn. What do the experts think it is about fire safety
:20:41. > :20:46.regulation that needs to be reviewed? The biggest problem is the
:20:47. > :20:52.fact that building products are moving much faster, and they are not
:20:53. > :20:58.being fought through when it comes to testing them for use in reality,
:20:59. > :21:05.and legislation has not kept pace. The regulations are playing catch
:21:06. > :21:08.up. But they have not caught up. Normally the approved document is
:21:09. > :21:13.reviewed every six years or so and it has been over ten years since our
:21:14. > :21:17.last review. If I was a resident by tower block and I had concerned
:21:18. > :21:24.about fire safety, I would want to query the council with respect to
:21:25. > :21:27.the fire risk assessment. Since last Wednesday Stevenage Borough Council
:21:28. > :21:32.has been working hard to reassure residents in all their housing
:21:33. > :21:38.stock. They are safe, we are reassured, we do begin checks, and
:21:39. > :21:42.they are safe for our customers. Very early on with Grenfell, the
:21:43. > :21:45.stapled policy was what people focused on, it might have cost lives
:21:46. > :21:50.for stop what the Fire Service had said that if people stay in their
:21:51. > :21:56.flats, the way that the buildings are built, they are built to contain
:21:57. > :21:59.a Fire Within an individual unit. The Fire Service will be able to get
:22:00. > :22:04.to those people. The crucial question that you will be asking,
:22:05. > :22:08.what will it be? That the risk assessment is current and sufficient
:22:09. > :22:13.for the block you live in, but you have to make sure you have good
:22:14. > :22:17.levels of fire stopping, a good 30 minute fire door between you and the
:22:18. > :22:23.escape routes, and making sure that the walls and floor are solid
:22:24. > :22:27.construction. If you are living in a high-rise, if you are worried, there
:22:28. > :22:32.is something you can do. Find the FRS, fire risk assessment, and work
:22:33. > :22:37.through it bit by bit. If what you see in it does not look good enough,
:22:38. > :22:42.does not look practical or well thought through, if people have not
:22:43. > :22:43.bothered to check things, get on the phone, start writing e-mails and
:22:44. > :22:45.make a fuss. Matt, where should people be able
:22:46. > :22:57.to find those fire risk assessments? There should be held by your
:22:58. > :23:04.landlord, the housing association or the council, they should have
:23:05. > :23:08.copies. Some councils, such as Harlow, make there is public by
:23:09. > :23:13.putting them online, so you can find them on the website. That is a much
:23:14. > :23:16.easier way for people to understand the work that is being done to
:23:17. > :23:22.protect them, the thought that has gone into it and what would happen.
:23:23. > :23:24.It will tell you what you should do. You can see how much thought has
:23:25. > :23:28.gone into bed. Melvyn, as an active
:23:29. > :23:29.member of the Lords, what role do you hope
:23:30. > :23:44.you and your colleagues With such a messed up Government,
:23:45. > :23:49.the Lords can do a lot. The Lords have been forcing people to look at
:23:50. > :23:54.things more carefully. Take a wider look at it. We need more regulation,
:23:55. > :24:01.we have to force it through, we have to stop the cuts. These things do
:24:02. > :24:05.not happen in very expensive blogs, they happen where poor people live.
:24:06. > :24:13.We have got to find a way to sort that. We heard Theresa May talking
:24:14. > :24:18.about analysis of buildings with cladding, when will residents find
:24:19. > :24:22.out? 600 tower blocks are being tested, that is what they are
:24:23. > :24:26.looking at. Seven in four areas have been shown to have combustible
:24:27. > :24:29.cladding, the landlords are being notified, and it should get through
:24:30. > :24:36.to the residents very quickly. One has been found in Camden, and they
:24:37. > :24:40.are working to remove that cladding right now. For those people, they
:24:41. > :24:42.can see the work taking place, and that will make them feel better.
:24:43. > :24:46.The last time I met the comedian Hal Cruttenden,
:24:47. > :24:48.he was desperately seasick on board the One Show's Sport Relief
:24:49. > :25:06.We've been kinder to him this time, asking him and his sister to revisit
:25:07. > :25:09.the scene of an idyllic family holiday on a certain Somerset farm
:25:10. > :25:16.that around this time of year gets a little bit noisy.
:25:17. > :25:22.Glastonbury is the biggest greenfield music Festival in the
:25:23. > :25:28.world. But this is how me and my sister Abigail will always remember
:25:29. > :25:35.the festival's home at worthy farm. This was the exciting moment. It
:25:36. > :25:40.still is. It was like the beginning of the holiday. You go around the
:25:41. > :25:46.corner and go, it is the farm! I don't associated with Coldplay,
:25:47. > :25:52.kaiser chiefs or Kanye West, I think of kids play, cops and robbers and
:25:53. > :25:58.cowpats. This is where we spent our happiest summer holidays, milking
:25:59. > :26:02.cows and herding balls. These were the best times. Because we were here
:26:03. > :26:05.for so long and we had such freedom, and because of everybody at the farm
:26:06. > :26:12.and the kids, they were great, we hung out with them. It was ideal,
:26:13. > :26:16.nothing like it. This week, 30,000 people are employed on site. We
:26:17. > :26:22.remember all of this as a working dairy farm. Our parents thought it
:26:23. > :26:29.happened me up a bit, because I had been so scared of cars. Our family
:26:30. > :26:32.started staying here in 1973. Three years after Michael Eavis launched
:26:33. > :26:36.the festival to help keep the farm financially afloat. Our parents
:26:37. > :26:42.discovered it because friends used to come down. It will still
:26:43. > :26:45.happening in June, we were there in August, but there were Moroccan
:26:46. > :26:51.drummers, and they were living in the barn, they had done the festival
:26:52. > :26:55.and hung out for two months, and you would walk around and a Moroccan
:26:56. > :27:03.would walk past coming, mourning. Our sister and we shared the top
:27:04. > :27:08.floor with the children of Michael Eavis' family. It is the first time
:27:09. > :27:13.we have been back in 30 years. Hello! One of the highlights were
:27:14. > :27:22.Michael's tactical jokes, which normally involved Amber Schinkel our
:27:23. > :27:29.midnight feasts. I went up a ladder, knocked on the window, 10pm at
:27:30. > :27:36.night, I thought I was scaring the kids, and old lady came out.
:27:37. > :27:41.Probably 90 odd! It is the first time since 1980I have seen my
:27:42. > :27:44.childhood friend and hero Patrick, Michael's son, and cursed to be the
:27:45. > :27:50.only boy in a family of girls. I think he liked me, but I was
:27:51. > :27:55.trailing him round, and he knew how to do everything, and I would be
:27:56. > :28:04.impressed. We were a bit Somerset local, you came from London, you
:28:05. > :28:07.drove a smart car. Townies! Exactly! Since 1999 Michael has shed the
:28:08. > :28:14.running of the festival with his daughter Emily, the youngest member
:28:15. > :28:20.of our clan. For God's sake! It is like the stuff of legend, he visits
:28:21. > :28:24.from your family. You were small enough, I was standing at the front
:28:25. > :28:31.of the house, Sandra said, can you look after Emily? I was like, OK...
:28:32. > :28:36.You were sitting on the grass, I said, hello, chatting, and they are
:28:37. > :28:39.all staring to see how I would cope. Being put in charge of Emily! She is
:28:40. > :28:45.an immensely powerful woman, she books this, I am sure she would like
:28:46. > :28:51.to be reminded that I used to look after her! Can I play the Pyramid
:28:52. > :28:56.stage, please? As kids, we would know where to look for Michael, in
:28:57. > :29:04.the cow shed. That is still where we find him today. 500 cards? A huge
:29:05. > :29:12.operation. We won the UK best dairy farm, migrate grandparents moved
:29:13. > :29:17.here 156 years ago, and we have been ever since. It is important to keep
:29:18. > :29:23.the farm going, more so than keeping the festival going. Sadly, we
:29:24. > :29:30.stopped coming here in the 1980s, when Abbey's acting jobs and foreign
:29:31. > :29:33.holidays got in the way. Now, it is time to say goodbye again. It has
:29:34. > :29:42.been amazing, brilliant. Take care. The music is ringing out as we
:29:43. > :29:52.speak. The Box That Changed Britain
:29:53. > :29:56.is on BBC Two on Saturday 1st July, and the Sky Arts South Bank Awards
:29:57. > :30:00.can be seen on July 9th. Tomorrow, Jerry Springer
:30:01. > :30:01.is presenting with Alex, and Tracey Ullman and Rita Ora
:30:02. > :30:05.will be on the sofa.