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0:00:17 > 0:00:19Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker.

0:00:19 > 0:00:20And Alex Jones.

0:00:20 > 0:00:28On the day of the Budget, our guests represent excellent value.

0:00:28 > 0:00:30Definitely.

0:00:30 > 0:00:33As far as growth is concerned, one guest is 40% taller than anyone

0:00:33 > 0:00:34else in the studio.

0:00:34 > 0:00:38And the other is 100% more Canadian than everyone here.

0:00:38 > 0:00:40But they're both guaranteed to raise your interest -

0:00:40 > 0:00:41without being too taxing.

0:00:41 > 0:00:44A huge welcome to Katherine Ryan and Richard Osman!

0:00:44 > 0:00:47APPLAUSE.

0:00:49 > 0:00:53To avoid getting too political we will leave the Budget to one side.

0:00:53 > 0:00:56We will talk about your personal budgets. Whitehall have you been

0:00:56 > 0:01:01overspending?I never overspend. I never feel richer than going down

0:01:01 > 0:01:05to a shopping street and think, I'm honestly not interested in anything

0:01:05 > 0:01:13in any of these shops. I get to the end of the high street and think how

0:01:13 > 0:01:18rich am I not liking anything. Nothing would fit you.Other than

0:01:18 > 0:01:24books.You are not a big spender.I would spend less on takeaway, but

0:01:24 > 0:01:31more on food. I need is to still be eating. Cooking healthy meals for my

0:01:31 > 0:01:36family.More neefrt yourself.I'm the favourite of the delivery man.

0:01:36 > 0:01:40It's like -Same.The delivery restaurants are good at what they

0:01:40 > 0:01:48do. It's presumptuous to think I could cook something better. You

0:01:48 > 0:01:54should say - listen,, you cook Indian food better than me.

0:01:56 > 0:01:59Richard now turned his attention to those pointless arguments

0:01:59 > 0:02:01we all have where we argue passionately that one thing

0:02:01 > 0:02:03is better than another, even though the answer

0:02:03 > 0:02:05just doesn't matter.

0:02:05 > 0:02:09We will get into these more.

0:02:09 > 0:02:11He calls these arguments "World Cups" and in them he tries

0:02:11 > 0:02:15to determine which is the best out of a range of things such

0:02:15 > 0:02:16as breakfast cereal, biscuits and crisps.

0:02:16 > 0:02:21Ridiculous really.

0:02:21 > 0:02:31Flame grilled are the best.You are wrong. It's the Scampi Fries.

0:02:31 > 0:02:37Really?When you stop in a petrol station, the first in your mouth is

0:02:37 > 0:02:43heaven, isn't it?I'm Flame Grilled all the way. Don't look at me.You

0:02:43 > 0:02:48have said the single most controversy thing on TV and we had

0:02:48 > 0:02:52the Budget today.

0:02:52 > 0:02:55Anyway, tonight we're going to have a World Cup of dinners.

0:02:55 > 0:02:59We want you to send in a photo and tell us why you think your

0:02:59 > 0:03:01cheese on toast beats someone else's spag bol.

0:03:01 > 0:03:03Takeaways don't count. Leave them out of it.

0:03:03 > 0:03:06We'll boil it down to a few finalists and later on Richard

0:03:06 > 0:03:08and Katherine will pick a dinner winner later.

0:03:08 > 0:03:10We're also in for a tasty musical treat

0:03:10 > 0:03:15later when none other than Seal will be here.

0:03:15 > 0:03:23# Kiss From A Rose... # That takes you back.

0:03:23 > 0:03:26He's gone back to some of the classics and tonight he'll be

0:03:26 > 0:03:29performing an absolutely brilliant rendition of I Put A Spell On You.

0:03:29 > 0:03:31Can't wait.

0:03:31 > 0:03:36He was warming up next to me. He's on form.

0:03:36 > 0:03:38One of the big Budget announcements today was the pledge to plough

0:03:38 > 0:03:40£20 million into completely eradicating homelessness

0:03:40 > 0:03:41in the next 10 years.

0:03:41 > 0:03:44A recent study said that there are now over 300,000

0:03:44 > 0:03:46homeless people in the UK, but charities like Shelter

0:03:46 > 0:03:48suggest the figure is likely to be even higher.

0:03:48 > 0:03:52So how do you even begin to count the number of people on our streets?

0:03:52 > 0:03:54JJ has been finding out.

0:03:54 > 0:03:58It's 1.30am in the morning and I'm heading out on to the streets of

0:03:58 > 0:04:04Greater Manchester. I'm joining the rough sleeping count as the local

0:04:04 > 0:04:07council tries to establish how many people are sleeping on the street.

0:04:07 > 0:04:12Since 2010 the number of rough sleepers in Greater Manchester has

0:04:12 > 0:04:16incerealed four-fold. The count is carried out once a year by

0:04:16 > 0:04:19volunteers from the council and Housing Association. They soon spot

0:04:19 > 0:04:29someone in a doorway.Hi, I'm Leisa, are you OK. How long have you been

0:04:29 > 0:04:33staying here.Two weeks.Would you like to access support and advice in

0:04:33 > 0:04:39the next few days maybe.Maybe.He's Polish, he lived here for the last

0:04:39 > 0:04:43three years. Was working, had a job, then lost his job. He ended up on

0:04:43 > 0:04:47the street. He has lost his passport. That is him effectively

0:04:47 > 0:04:51stranded here. Each year the Government ask local authorities to

0:04:51 > 0:04:55provide a figure on how many people are sleeping rough. Around 15% carry

0:04:55 > 0:05:01out a head count like this. How accurate can one count on one night

0:05:01 > 0:05:07a year be? Joining us is the Salford Mair.It depends how many people

0:05:07 > 0:05:11come out and volunteer. The places we go to and whether or not people

0:05:11 > 0:05:15who are homeless or rough sleeping are actually there when we decide to

0:05:15 > 0:05:19visit. So it is fraught with problems. The count is worthwhile on

0:05:19 > 0:05:25a whole number of levels. It means we get out there and we see for

0:05:25 > 0:05:29ourselves the conditions people are living in.Paul is keen to take us

0:05:29 > 0:05:35to the Narrow Gate Night Shelter to show us the reality. This is

0:05:35 > 0:05:40Salford's hidden homeless, they are not included on the count. One of

0:05:40 > 0:05:45them is 51-year-old marry.My landlord sold the flat I was in.How

0:05:45 > 0:05:50long have you been here for?Seven weeks.How has it been adjusting

0:05:50 > 0:05:54living here?It's been quite hard, actually. You are not used to so

0:05:54 > 0:05:57many people.Without this place I presume would you have been rough

0:05:57 > 0:06:02sleeping?I would have had to, really.Mary has been lucky she, she

0:06:02 > 0:06:10will move into a flat in a month's time. It's 3.00am. We are heading to

0:06:10 > 0:06:15Salford Quays. It's cold tonight. I wouldn't want to be sleeping out.

0:06:15 > 0:06:20Yeah, we have reports of every night five or six people coming and

0:06:20 > 0:06:24begging down around this building. There's no-one here now, just

0:06:24 > 0:06:29bedding. It's another example of how difficult it is to #re8 fleck the

0:06:29 > 0:06:33true scale of the problem. S How do you feel knowing that people are

0:06:33 > 0:06:40living like this?I've got grave concerns. -- reflect. Everybody

0:06:40 > 0:06:45sleeping outside using bedding, cardboard, they are at risk of

0:06:45 > 0:06:49hypothermia.Impossible to think you will get back on your feet when this

0:06:49 > 0:06:53is what you come back to at night? No, it's absolutely horrendous.The

0:06:53 > 0:06:57team comes across another man outside an office building. He says

0:06:57 > 0:07:01he's not homeless, just stranded.

0:07:07 > 0:07:12It's now 4.00am. There are four young men sleeping in a train

0:07:12 > 0:07:16station. 22-year-old Dean Wild has been on the street for five months

0:07:16 > 0:07:23after losing his job.Is withworking as a mechanic. -- I was working as a

0:07:23 > 0:07:27mechanic. The garage shut down.If you got accommodation, could you get

0:07:27 > 0:07:31back into that?Yes, of course. I would love to get back into it. It's

0:07:31 > 0:07:36the only thing I really want to do. How tough can it get out here?It

0:07:36 > 0:07:43can get tough. This is meant to be a good sleeping bag. I still feel the

0:07:43 > 0:07:51cold.It's not just homelessness he is dealing with.I see dark figures.

0:07:51 > 0:07:57There's no face. It's a dark figure. I met Dean there, a really nice guy.

0:07:57 > 0:08:01He has genuine mental health issues, but in just a really horrible

0:08:01 > 0:08:05situation. Dean is receiving housing support from the local authority and

0:08:05 > 0:08:08it's hoped he will be off the streets soon.

0:08:12 > 0:08:15Last year Salford found five rough sleepers, but tonight that has more

0:08:15 > 0:08:19than doubled to 11. Alongside evidence from the police, charities

0:08:19 > 0:08:23and Housing Association, the official figure is closer to 40. So

0:08:23 > 0:08:27how valuable is the count?Well, clearly, I think we need to do more

0:08:27 > 0:08:32of these, to be perfectly honest with you. I'd like to see all cities

0:08:32 > 0:08:37and towns around the country doing counts. Unless you get out there and

0:08:37 > 0:08:41see it yourself all it is is a number on a spreadsheet. Let's be

0:08:41 > 0:08:46human about this.Seal has joined us now.Hello.You were watching that

0:08:46 > 0:08:51film closely. This is something you have life experience in. You ended

0:08:51 > 0:08:53up on the streets sleeping rough. How did that situation come about?

0:08:53 > 0:08:59Yeah. I mean, the big difference there is mine was by choice.

0:08:59 > 0:09:02Watching this piece, you quickly realise that a lot of these people

0:09:02 > 0:09:06have no choice. I think that's the most disheartening thing.Right.

0:09:06 > 0:09:11When you say by choice, how did you make up making that decision?I

0:09:11 > 0:09:17decided to leave home at 15. I was in search of, you know, bigger and

0:09:17 > 0:09:26brighter things. So it was my choice, you know. I roughed it on

0:09:26 > 0:09:30friend's floors for a while. When they got tired and they kicked me

0:09:30 > 0:09:35out I roughed it in shelters and I used to sleep on the Underground a

0:09:35 > 0:09:40couple of times. It got to that at one point. Again, you know, the

0:09:40 > 0:09:47difference was mine was by choice. A lot of these poor people just have

0:09:47 > 0:09:51no choice. My heart goes out to them really.You actually turned your

0:09:51 > 0:09:56life around then because you wrote Kiss From A Rose in a squat, didn't

0:09:56 > 0:10:00you?Yeah. We have... I try to explain it sometimes to my American

0:10:00 > 0:10:04friends. We have this wonderful concept in England called squatters

0:10:04 > 0:10:09rights which we are all aware of. I lived in a squat for a while. That

0:10:09 > 0:10:15was kind of my... It was - since leaving home, that was kind of like

0:10:15 > 0:10:21my first real space that I could call my own, I felt. Of course, you

0:10:21 > 0:10:26have more or less the guarantor. You had the guarantee of being rehoused

0:10:26 > 0:10:31if you ever had to leave the squat. That was where I wrote Kiss From A

0:10:31 > 0:10:35Rose.Did it it have connotations of your life when you were writing

0:10:35 > 0:10:40that?Did Kiss From A Rose have connotations? I never thought of it

0:10:40 > 0:10:46like that. It must have done, really. You know, as a writer, an

0:10:46 > 0:10:51artist, you kind of reflect the reality of your surrounding or at

0:10:51 > 0:10:55least how you see it, a reality, I should say. Yes, it must have done.

0:10:55 > 0:10:59I mean, people have often asked me - what is it about? I couldn't tell

0:10:59 > 0:11:05you if my life depended on it.We wanted an answer tonight.My answer

0:11:05 > 0:11:10for the longest time was, it's about whatever. I'd say, what does it mean

0:11:10 > 0:11:17to you. That's what it's about, I guess.

0:11:17 > 0:11:20Well, despite Seal's tough start, he went onto sell over 30 million

0:11:20 > 0:11:22records and win multiple Grammy awards and Brits, thanks

0:11:22 > 0:11:23to tunes like these.

0:11:23 > 0:11:30# Is there still a part of you that wants to live honourable gentleman

0:11:30 > 0:11:33solitary sister # Is there still a part of you that

0:11:33 > 0:11:38wants to give # But we're never going to survive

0:11:38 > 0:11:48unless we get a little crazy # No, we're never going to survive

0:11:48 > 0:11:56unless we are a little crazy # Baby, I compare you to a kiss from

0:11:56 > 0:12:00a ks rose # Oh, the more I get of you

0:12:00 > 0:12:09# The stranger it feels, yeah... #. YES!

0:12:14 > 0:12:18You should do karaoke, you've got a good voice.Apparently people who

0:12:18 > 0:12:25sing for a living are terrible at karaoke.Oh really.The whole point

0:12:25 > 0:12:29is to be embarrassed.You could come to our Christmas party.Christmas

0:12:29 > 0:12:36karaoke. I did a thing recently where I had to go undercover and

0:12:36 > 0:12:41conceal my identity as this sort of ageing man who had never quite made

0:12:41 > 0:12:46it in the music industry. You know, he had given up his dreams and etc,

0:12:46 > 0:12:50etc. I had to go undercover for a week. It was one of the hardest

0:12:50 > 0:12:56thing I ever did. One was involving me singing. I was this failed

0:12:56 > 0:13:00singer, if there is such a thing, I don't believe there is. For intents

0:13:00 > 0:13:04and purposes. . I had to mask, I had to

0:13:04 > 0:13:12intentionally sing badly. You know. But it was the hardest thing to do,

0:13:12 > 0:13:19you know. I don't know why I told you that story!If you need to know

0:13:19 > 0:13:24how to sing badly come to me.We aren't doing any karaoke.Katherine,

0:13:24 > 0:13:30it's a big deal for you sitting next to Seal? Was he your teen idol.

0:13:30 > 0:13:36Instead of saying keeping it real I say keeping Seal.I like that.I

0:13:36 > 0:13:40thought you might.I love it.Kiss From A Rose is important if my life.

0:13:40 > 0:13:46It is?As a young girl.We have a picture of you at your school prom

0:13:46 > 0:13:53did you not dance to it?Yes. I love a photo is requested in that you

0:13:53 > 0:13:56didn't believe I went to high school! Yeah, I think you are so

0:13:56 > 0:14:05talented.Oh, thank you.Hey, no problem.Do you know, if you could

0:14:05 > 0:14:09see now I'd be blushing, obviously you can't.Does anyone think I'm

0:14:09 > 0:14:18talented? Anyone!There is a new album out. This is the Standard.

0:14:18 > 0:14:22What is quite extraordinary here, Seal, sorry, sorry to interrupt

0:14:22 > 0:14:28there.Do you mind!I'm trying to help your album. All these songs,

0:14:28 > 0:14:33they are covers, you say it's the thing you are most proud of?Oh, I

0:14:33 > 0:14:44think that might be a little bit of hyperbole. I'm proud of it. Whether

0:14:44 > 0:14:49or not it's the thing I'm most proud of. Trevor and I, the first couple

0:14:49 > 0:14:55of of albums, watching those videos and watching Crazy, the memories and

0:14:55 > 0:14:59the pride that I have, you know, with those memories recording those

0:14:59 > 0:15:06records with Trevor. It's hard to concentrate listening to this guy!

0:15:06 > 0:15:11This was definitely... It was a very challenging experience, which is

0:15:11 > 0:15:17ultimately kind of what turned me on about it.It's all about your voice.

0:15:17 > 0:15:20The songs are from a time when singers sang?

0:15:25 > 0:15:29As a singer, what you're trying to do most of the time, or what we are

0:15:29 > 0:15:35trying to do modern days, is suing as well as we can live and I give a

0:15:35 > 0:15:40powerful performance.But we have to have our stuff together. The major

0:15:40 > 0:15:47difference with the songs is, it doesn't really matter how great the

0:15:47 > 0:15:51musicians are. And let's be clear, they are spectacular musicians, even

0:15:51 > 0:15:55the ones I got to work with, some of them have recorded with Nat King

0:15:55 > 0:16:03Cole and Sinatra. Randy was in Sinatra's band at 19. So I was

0:16:03 > 0:16:07privileged to play with these musicians. But it does not really

0:16:07 > 0:16:12matter if the musicians are spectacular. If the songs are

0:16:12 > 0:16:17spectacular, if the arrangements are spectacular and some of them are

0:16:17 > 0:16:22spectacular, and the singing, the voice is in shape, technically you

0:16:22 > 0:16:27are hitting all the notes, it is not enough. It is so much about the

0:16:27 > 0:16:33narrative in the songs, about the story, that everything is arranged

0:16:33 > 0:16:37and centred around the voice's ability to convey this narrative and

0:16:37 > 0:16:42tell the story. If you are not doing that, or the other stuff. Pieces.

0:16:42 > 0:16:46This is one of the reasons why it was most challenging for me, because

0:16:46 > 0:16:51it brought me back to that, the essence of songwriting, which is

0:16:51 > 0:16:57storytelling, to kind of create this piece which allows people to suspend

0:16:57 > 0:17:02belief and go on this journey. Well, you have got a huge

0:17:02 > 0:17:08performance later on at the end of the show also I Put A Spell On You.

0:17:08 > 0:17:20Huge!No pressure, Seal.I like the way you say that!We will look

0:17:20 > 0:17:24forward to it. And you are touring around the UK. And that was a good

0:17:24 > 0:17:27effort with the Welsh accent!

0:17:27 > 0:17:29Now, have a look at these pictures.

0:17:29 > 0:17:31This was the reaction when David Cassidy flew into the UK

0:17:31 > 0:17:37back in the 1970s.

0:17:37 > 0:17:39He was one of the original teen idols and sadly today

0:17:39 > 0:17:42it was announced he had passed away at the age of 67.

0:17:42 > 0:17:48We met him when he came onto the show in 2011.

0:17:48 > 0:17:52At the time we made a film with two of his biggest fans,

0:17:52 > 0:17:55one of whom was Carrie Grant.

0:18:01 > 0:18:06Back in the 70s, the name on everyone's lips, and the man who had

0:18:06 > 0:18:11the key to our teenage hearts, was David Cassidy. But I was not the

0:18:11 > 0:18:16only girl to have his posters all over my bedroom walls. In fact,

0:18:16 > 0:18:20there were 13 million people who were part of the fan club. That is

0:18:20 > 0:18:26more than the Beatles and Elvis Presley. The single I think I love

0:18:26 > 0:18:33you was the biggest selling song of the 1970s and sparked a group of

0:18:33 > 0:18:38devoted it Mahrez who savoured every David Cassidy moment. Wendy Wright

0:18:38 > 0:18:44is still a mad fan. How far does her celebrity crush go? This is your

0:18:44 > 0:18:52memorabilia room. I love it. How did you feel?I fell in love with him!

0:18:52 > 0:18:57He was everything the magazines made me think he would be. The music is

0:18:57 > 0:19:03the soundtrack of my life. There is always a David Cassidy track appears

0:19:03 > 0:19:12to be somewhere in the background. Take me back to 1974.This is the

0:19:12 > 0:19:15concert ticket for White city Stadium.Described the week leading

0:19:15 > 0:19:23up to the gig?Every single outfit was tried on about five times just

0:19:23 > 0:19:29in case he saw me and would know how special I was so it was really

0:19:29 > 0:19:34important that I had a pink top or a blue top because that could make a

0:19:34 > 0:19:37difference in our future. There were thousands and thousands and

0:19:37 > 0:19:41thousands of girls there. The excitement was palpable. You could

0:19:41 > 0:19:47feel it. There was excitement in the air.That day a young girl was

0:19:47 > 0:19:52crushed due to the hysteria of the 34,000 fans. She later died. I know

0:19:52 > 0:20:01in here you have a report of your day.David sang his last song and

0:20:01 > 0:20:04ran off. We'll pleaded with him to come back but nothing happened. All

0:20:04 > 0:20:10I could say was, he can't have gone, then I started to cry. The feeling

0:20:10 > 0:20:15inside was awful. David had gone. I might never see him again.I have

0:20:15 > 0:20:21come to speak to psychologist Linda Papadopoulos to make sense of these

0:20:21 > 0:20:26powerful infatuations of idols like David.Think the way the boy bands

0:20:26 > 0:20:31have developed over the years have been very much about helping girls

0:20:31 > 0:20:35believe their fantasies, it is about them, he is singing to you. Think

0:20:35 > 0:20:41back to the times of Elvis and David Cassidy, they do not have a

0:20:41 > 0:20:44girlfriend because they are waiting for you, he is not married because

0:20:44 > 0:20:50he has not met yet yet.Chatting to Linda and Wendy reminds me of those

0:20:50 > 0:20:54great at early moments of youth, when you have those first crushes,

0:20:54 > 0:20:58it is a bonding experience for women and a great chance for us to

0:20:58 > 0:21:03remember our youth. We have to grow up and that is a fact but what is

0:21:03 > 0:21:09wrong with holding the flame to your teenage idol?

0:21:09 > 0:21:13Carry loved David Cassidy. Katherine, we know that Seal would

0:21:13 > 0:21:18have been on your bedroom walls that Richard, we were thinking, would he

0:21:18 > 0:21:25have had Star Wars stuff or Baywatch?Baywatch was a little bit

0:21:25 > 0:21:30after my time. Mine was someone I worked out I have had a crush on for

0:21:30 > 0:21:3737 years, Kim Wilde.Kim Wilde! We did not think of that.Good option.

0:21:37 > 0:21:48During this time we came up -- you came up with this option. Here is

0:21:48 > 0:22:00Richard.Who is that?That is my brother. He is a rock star now.Yes,

0:22:00 > 0:22:10he is in, Chris Slade. Tell us -- yes, he is in Suede. Tell us about

0:22:10 > 0:22:18World Cup Of Everything.There was a question about who was better

0:22:18 > 0:22:26between Spandau Ballet or... I love the idea of pointless arguments that

0:22:26 > 0:22:30people have. I thought I would ask on Twitter what people's favourite

0:22:30 > 0:22:35chocolate bar was. Then 2 million votes I thought people were

0:22:35 > 0:22:42interested in doing this so I do this and raise money for a charity

0:22:42 > 0:22:47which looks after children in Uganda. People get serious with May

0:22:47 > 0:22:52and I thought I will do a book where you can do it with your mates on a

0:22:52 > 0:22:58long car journey or in the pub.It is quite interactive.Does 100%

0:22:58 > 0:23:02interactive as long as you have a pencil. It has wall charts you fill

0:23:02 > 0:23:09in. It will cause so many arguments. You will find out the best reduced

0:23:09 > 0:23:12sitcom, all that kind of stuff. It is giving you something to argue

0:23:12 > 0:23:17about that is not Brexit, but as something a bit more... You will

0:23:17 > 0:23:26argue about something.What would be your favourite?Are you talking

0:23:26 > 0:23:33about scampi and beef! Identity meet belongs anywhere. I like salt and

0:23:33 > 0:23:44vinegar. I like dill pickle and chips.The Americans and Canadians

0:23:44 > 0:23:50cannot do lists.Thirst for thy have got the name wrong, chips.It is

0:23:50 > 0:23:54amazing how intense it feels when you're down to the final. I was

0:23:54 > 0:23:59logging on. I could not wait to see who won.Why do we get so heated up

0:23:59 > 0:24:03and we would rather argue whether this than anything else?People love

0:24:03 > 0:24:09to argue as a species. When we argue about real things people get upset,

0:24:09 > 0:24:14but if you argue about whether a Twirl is better than a Twix, which

0:24:14 > 0:24:22it is, it is fun.Some of our friends want to know who would win

0:24:22 > 0:24:28their World Cups. We will start with Breakfast. Here is Dan Walker and

0:24:28 > 0:24:35Louise Minchin.If there was a World Cup of breakfasts...What would be

0:24:35 > 0:24:42the winner?Breakfast cereal and not television programmes I am

0:24:42 > 0:24:48presuming!Breakfast food in general.That is easy, bacon

0:24:48 > 0:24:53sandwich.No, because some cultures cannot have that. You have vegan is

0:24:53 > 0:25:05kicking around. I like any potato base. A bubble and squeak blew my

0:25:05 > 0:25:16whole world open.Hash browns.You like a Scottish breakfast.I like a

0:25:16 > 0:25:23Coco Pops. I have said it. Nothing wrong with that.Now it is the turn

0:25:23 > 0:25:28of Zoe with a question.If there was a World Cup of dance moves, what

0:25:28 > 0:25:36would be your winner?Goodness, it would have to be something I am a

0:25:36 > 0:25:46specialist in. I break dance a lot. Off you go!You need a crash mat for

0:25:46 > 0:25:53what I do.Sell the book.There are no dance moves in the book.Is it

0:25:53 > 0:25:58break dancing, spinning on your head?I was in a break dance crew in

0:25:58 > 0:26:07the 1980s.Where you?!No, I wasn't. Could you imagine? Let's say I was.

0:26:07 > 0:26:15You are a good dancer, Catherine. You heard right. I think all moves

0:26:15 > 0:26:19are good as long as you do them with reckless abandon. I like moves taken

0:26:19 > 0:26:24out of real life like the sprinkler and also shopping and putting things

0:26:24 > 0:26:30in the trolley. Moves from life, starting the lawn mower.I am with

0:26:30 > 0:26:36you, if in doubt, mine a sport.I would just be clicking a mouse, that

0:26:36 > 0:26:43is the problem.We have one more. Here is Michael Ball.I have got a

0:26:43 > 0:26:50question. In your opinion, what is the best musical?That is a good

0:26:50 > 0:26:55one. In the book we have the World Cup of Disney films and people get

0:26:55 > 0:26:59very animated about that. I will go for one that Michael Ball was in and

0:26:59 > 0:27:11I love it which is Hairspray.What about you, Katherine?Hamilton.I

0:27:11 > 0:27:15have not seen it.It is coming to the UK and it is so good. I know it

0:27:15 > 0:27:21is tricky picking the newest one but it is hot for a reason.Michael Ball

0:27:21 > 0:27:27has strong opinions on this, as you might imagine.The longest running

0:27:27 > 0:27:32musical is less miserable is, the most financially successful is

0:27:32 > 0:27:41funding of the Opera. The best, it is Hairspray. Or is it Sweeney Todd?

0:27:41 > 0:27:50Or Miss Saigon? Or...He's always self promoting, Michael Ball.

0:27:50 > 0:27:55Richard's World Cup Of Everything is out now.

0:27:55 > 0:27:56Now, finding out you're expecting your first child

0:27:56 > 0:27:59can be an incredibly exciting time, but it can also be

0:27:59 > 0:28:00a pretty anxious one too.

0:28:00 > 0:28:04This is the story of one couple who had to put their baby's life

0:28:04 > 0:28:06in the hands of doctors before she was even born.

0:28:06 > 0:28:09At their home in Bristol, Holly and Mark Lloyd are getting ready for the

0:28:09 > 0:28:15arrival of their first child. The couple married in February, and had

0:28:15 > 0:28:20always wanted a family.It had happened sooner than we thought, so

0:28:20 > 0:28:23it meant that I was 16 weeks pregnant already when we got

0:28:23 > 0:28:33married.It was a surprise. Really excited.At the 20 week scan Holly

0:28:33 > 0:28:36and Mark discovered they were expecting a girl, but they also

0:28:36 > 0:28:41learned there was a problem.The sonographer asked for a second

0:28:41 > 0:28:44opinion and then a third opinion so a lot of people came in to have a

0:28:44 > 0:28:50look.The more it went on, the more worried we became. Your brain

0:28:50 > 0:28:55rationalises what is happening but it is difficult. Quite terrifying

0:28:55 > 0:28:59really.The scan reveals the baby has a life-threatening condition and

0:28:59 > 0:29:11will only survive if she has major surgery

0:29:27 > 0:29:30within a couple of weeks of the birth.It is the most difficult

0:29:30 > 0:29:32thing either of us has ever had to deal with.The thing that sticks in

0:29:32 > 0:29:35my mind is a little baby having open-heart surgery is the worst

0:29:35 > 0:29:37combination of words you want to put together.The surgery will be

0:29:37 > 0:29:40carried out at the Bristol Hospital for children. A normal heart pumps

0:29:40 > 0:29:42red oxygen rich blood around the body and sends oxygen poor or blue

0:29:42 > 0:29:45blood to the lungs.What happens is the blue blood comes back to the

0:29:45 > 0:29:48body and instead of going to the lungs it goes back to the body,

0:29:48 > 0:29:50whereas the red light coming back from the lungs goes straight out to

0:29:50 > 0:29:54the lungs again. After birth, the child will not be able to survive

0:29:54 > 0:29:59because the oxygen levels in the blood will get too low for the

0:29:59 > 0:30:04organs to work.The condition affects two out of every 10,000 live

0:30:04 > 0:30:09births and is often called blue baby syndrome.There are many different

0:30:09 > 0:30:16heart abnormalities which will produce a child which is blue, a

0:30:16 > 0:30:19blue baby. In technical terms, it is called cyanotic heart disease. All

0:30:19 > 0:30:24it means is the oxygen levels in the blood going to the body are not as

0:30:24 > 0:30:29high as you would expect them to be. Research by the British Heart

0:30:29 > 0:30:32Foundation at the University of Bristol hospital is improving

0:30:32 > 0:30:37outcomes all the time. But technically, it is one of the most

0:30:37 > 0:30:41challenging operations.Although the results of the arterial switch in

0:30:41 > 0:30:45Britain nowadays are extremely good, we can never belittle what it is. It

0:30:45 > 0:30:52is a heart operation on a small child.Holly is having sleepless

0:30:52 > 0:30:56nights. She is almost nine months pregnant and the baby is breech. A

0:30:56 > 0:31:02Caesarean is booked for the next day. She decides to start a video

0:31:02 > 0:31:06diary.

0:31:06 > 0:31:15Fot feeling as strong as I've done. It's the morning of the birth. Holly

0:31:15 > 0:31:20and Mark know their baby's life is at risk as soon as she's born. In

0:31:20 > 0:31:23the delivery suite at Saint Michael's Maternity Hospital

0:31:23 > 0:31:31everything is right.Why the baby is still connected to the mum the baby

0:31:31 > 0:31:39is being oxygenated. When he has to oxygen anyway by himself or herself

0:31:39 > 0:31:45is when they go blue.It doesn't really feel real. I can't comprehend

0:31:45 > 0:31:49what's about to happen, really. Speak to you afterwards.Love you.

0:31:49 > 0:31:57Love you.Holly is in theatre. The caesarean takes just six minutes,

0:31:57 > 0:32:02but their baby needs resuscitation and is rushed to Nato natal

0:32:02 > 0:32:06intensive care. Down stairs, Holly is desperate to hold her.We haven't

0:32:06 > 0:32:12seen her yet. I fleetingly saw her before she was taken away. She

0:32:12 > 0:32:16wasn't well enough for a cuddle or anything.Waiting to see if we can

0:32:16 > 0:32:21go and see our little girl. Yeah, waiting to see if she's stabilised.

0:32:21 > 0:32:24She's being well looked after at the moment.Their baby is stable, but in

0:32:24 > 0:32:28trouble. In the next few hours she will need an extra procedure to

0:32:28 > 0:32:35allow more oxygen into her body. It's the only way she will survive

0:32:35 > 0:32:39long enough to have the corrective surgery. The next few days will be

0:32:39 > 0:32:44critical. The story will continue later on in the proprogramme when

0:32:44 > 0:32:49Mark, Holly and their baby daughter will join us to talk about that

0:32:49 > 0:32:56operation. The next film is something else. It really is. Your

0:32:56 > 0:32:59tour is about your daughter Violet who thinks you are the most

0:32:59 > 0:33:05embarrassing mum out there. How did it go down that you had written all

0:33:05 > 0:33:13this new material on her Glitter room.'S a real room. Her bedroom.

0:33:13 > 0:33:18Sounds fantastic.It's her flat. I was the first woman to buy property

0:33:18 > 0:33:22alone. I was aware my grandmother wouldn't have been allowed to do

0:33:22 > 0:33:26that, or carry a passport or open a bank account without the signature

0:33:26 > 0:33:37of a man. I have a lovely life with Violet. I get people to say - it's

0:33:37 > 0:33:45sad you are alone. When I'm alone I get to hang out with me. The first

0:33:45 > 0:33:49audition of a decorator I told him what she wanted for the glitter room

0:33:49 > 0:33:54he said to me - no. He said, you cannot do. This he said, no man will

0:33:54 > 0:34:00ever want to live here.You are not inviting one. I know! I said - you

0:34:00 > 0:34:06promise!I have florals and rose gold and blush. It's a beautiful

0:34:06 > 0:34:12flat.It sounds pretty.In the Glitter room he stood in the middle

0:34:12 > 0:34:16of it and said, "when will the decision maker be home". I was like,

0:34:16 > 0:34:23she's at school for two more hours, you had better hurry up. It's about

0:34:23 > 0:34:28the trials and tribulations of the stigma being attached to being a

0:34:28 > 0:34:36single mum.How much do you tell Violet?She used to come on tour

0:34:36 > 0:34:40with me more when she was a baby. She wasn't really listening. I have

0:34:40 > 0:34:44to keep her away from some of my stuff.That is the interesting stage

0:34:44 > 0:34:49you are at in your life.Yes. It's a funny stage. I'm a good mum. It

0:34:49 > 0:34:53shocks people. There is a line. There are certain things he can't

0:34:53 > 0:34:58watch on telly or live stand-up. She is embarrassed by me. That's fine. I

0:34:58 > 0:35:02feel that's my job. That's completely cool. I do the school run

0:35:02 > 0:35:06sometimes in a bathrobe. I just live my best life.With the school run,

0:35:06 > 0:35:10we know that you are a bit scathing, let us say, about some of the other

0:35:10 > 0:35:18parents. Do you drive pass slowly push out Violet and go - bye - in

0:35:18 > 0:35:23case they pick on you or do you go in disguise.There are a lot of the

0:35:23 > 0:35:27mums at the school I love a lot. I started slagging them off really

0:35:27 > 0:35:32early on to get out of fundraising. I didn't want them inviting me to

0:35:32 > 0:35:37the pub quiz.That probably worked. It was really effective. I would

0:35:37 > 0:35:43recommend it. I don't want to play the game. The game of the cafe and,

0:35:43 > 0:35:48let's do this. I have my own squad. Because my daughter is friend with

0:35:48 > 0:35:51your daughter doesn't mean you and I have to be friends. I'm very busy. I

0:35:51 > 0:35:59don't want to do the cake sale. I suggested a fine programme were you

0:35:59 > 0:36:02get fined maybe £50, that is good for the charity you don't have to

0:36:02 > 0:36:09turn up. They were selling my cupcakes for 10p one time. Were is

0:36:09 > 0:36:13your skill of economy.After all that effort. The tour will continue

0:36:13 > 0:36:19for a little while you have been working with Jimmy Carr and Rustel

0:36:19 > 0:36:23Brand with the series called Roast. Tell us, it is's full on. You are

0:36:23 > 0:36:28almost like on a judging panel?It's more than almost. It is Roast

0:36:28 > 0:36:35Battle. It's famous language of comedy in America. I think Brits

0:36:35 > 0:36:39have seen it more now. A person is being roasted. To us roast something

0:36:39 > 0:36:44a language of love am you have to research the entire career and craft

0:36:44 > 0:36:49really smart jokes at that person's expense. It's hard to explain it.

0:36:49 > 0:36:55It's an honour of we brought it to the UK. Jimmy Carr, Comedy Central

0:36:55 > 0:36:59UK. It's the sharpest minds in comedy. Two comedians roasting one

0:36:59 > 0:37:05another and we judge the jokes and the roasts. It really, anything

0:37:05 > 0:37:12goes. Real horrible things are said. We have a clip from the new series

0:37:12 > 0:37:20with Tom Allen and Suzy Ruffle.He is so bad at maintaining a

0:37:20 > 0:37:25relationship his hair left him.He is the funniest 11-year-old boy I've

0:37:25 > 0:37:30ever...What do you think of these two? I thought they were both

0:37:30 > 0:37:36absolutely brilliant. I would say that Suzy had the better roast.

0:37:36 > 0:37:44There we go. Katherine's Glitter tour continues around the country

0:37:44 > 0:37:48until next March.

0:37:48 > 0:37:50Now, lots of performers suffer from stage fright,

0:37:50 > 0:37:52but that's nothing compared to the scary situations constantly

0:37:52 > 0:37:54faced by explorer and expedition leader Aldo Kane.

0:37:54 > 0:37:56We'll be talking to him in just a minute,

0:37:56 > 0:37:59but first here he is abseiling into one of the world's most

0:37:59 > 0:38:04dangerous volcanos, Nyiragongo, in the Congo.

0:38:04 > 0:38:10I'm guessing at that.

0:38:30 > 0:38:37APPLAUS Aldo is here now. You are making your way down there to a lava

0:38:37 > 0:38:43lake that is below?I would rather be doing that than being on live

0:38:43 > 0:38:49television, for sure.You are.It's one of the most bizarre things that

0:38:49 > 0:38:55you can ever, ever imagine to be doing with your life potentially

0:38:55 > 0:38:59dangling on the end of a rope.You are taking geology gists down as

0:38:59 > 0:39:02well, they do these important scientific research and experiments

0:39:02 > 0:39:06down there. You have the job of assessing the safest time, the

0:39:06 > 0:39:11safest route down. I mean, what are you looking for? Can you ever tell

0:39:11 > 0:39:17when the volcano is not going to erupt?In an answer, no, that's...

0:39:17 > 0:39:25You can't tell. My job is to get the scientists and the film crew down

0:39:25 > 0:39:30into the volcano as far as we can until I can say, pretty much with

0:39:30 > 0:39:33the choice of everyone else that, you know, it's safe or isn't safe to

0:39:33 > 0:39:38go forward. That's a constant battle when you are making television. But

0:39:38 > 0:39:43we were also there following scientists who are doing a real job.

0:39:43 > 0:39:48For us, it's a really tricky line as to when you can say it's safe or not

0:39:48 > 0:39:53safe. Snoop nigh my first rule of volcanoes for me is don't abseil

0:39:53 > 0:39:57into them - at any time. It's unbelievable. It's the biggest lava

0:39:57 > 0:40:01lake on earth. It's one of the most surreal experiences you can ever

0:40:01 > 0:40:07have.An ex-Royal Marine you have been in extreme situations. Is it

0:40:07 > 0:40:12hot down there? What was the feeling? You were at a very high

0:40:12 > 0:40:19height when you started?Yes. The volcano is nearly 3,500 meters. In

0:40:19 > 0:40:24the Congo you are still experiencing rain and hail and snow up there. So

0:40:24 > 0:40:28to then abseil into where you think it's actually going to be quite

0:40:28 > 0:40:34warm, it's not warm until you get right down towards the bottom.

0:40:34 > 0:40:39Obviously, I mean, the people going with you must be terrified. You must

0:40:39 > 0:40:46be a tiny bit because you have all of these people following your lead.

0:40:46 > 0:40:50You have quite a unique approach to fear, haven't you really? I'm

0:40:50 > 0:40:53terrified when you go in there. You have 15 people that are under your

0:40:53 > 0:41:00care. There is only so much you can physically do to stop rocks hitting

0:41:00 > 0:41:06someone. Inside there, that's the biggest risk. You know, I'm in my

0:41:06 > 0:41:10job lucky enough or unlucky enough to feel real fear five or six times

0:41:10 > 0:41:16a year. Certainly in this year. It's very much, for me, it's not about

0:41:16 > 0:41:20feeling the fear and cracking on with it or not. It's more about

0:41:20 > 0:41:24actually understanding it, why are you scared of that thing? What are

0:41:24 > 0:41:29these feelings?What are the feelings? Is it excited. For me,

0:41:29 > 0:41:36it's mainly just to focus me and to get me... If I'm abseiling off Angel

0:41:36 > 0:41:39Falls to make sure I've connect what had I need to connect to stop me

0:41:39 > 0:41:46freefalling. In the volcano it's not just about me, it's about the

0:41:46 > 0:41:52scientists and the film crew and the camera kit.On that note, how did

0:41:52 > 0:41:58the kit react in that very extreme situation of heat and whatever?

0:41:58 > 0:42:05Metal work corrodes within a few days. The Met al bits which

0:42:05 > 0:42:09basically stop you falling and dying. Some of the ladders put in

0:42:09 > 0:42:18there. The gases corroded the rungs off them. When you are crossing a

0:42:18 > 0:42:27crevasse. No.Inside a volcano. Yeah, you know, it's super corrosive

0:42:27 > 0:42:30to pretty much everything.Are you happy you have ticked that. Would

0:42:30 > 0:42:34you go back?No. I would like to say never, but it's television. So no

0:42:34 > 0:42:43doubt we will be back in there at some point.You took Tom Hardy and

0:42:43 > 0:42:47Henry Cavill who plays Superman into extreme environments. Please tell us

0:42:47 > 0:42:51that at least Superman was tough enough or did you have to rough them

0:42:51 > 0:42:56up a bit?No, these guys are used to working and filming in extreme

0:42:56 > 0:43:01environments. I'd like to say when I first met Henry I thought, this is

0:43:01 > 0:43:10going to be hard work. He's just got the cover of this month's Men's

0:43:10 > 0:43:15Health.You are on there. With his your top offed and the rope over

0:43:15 > 0:43:26your shoulder. We will spare your blushes. You can see more of Aldo in

0:43:26 > 0:43:41Much xpeditio volcano which starts this Sunday at 9.00pm on BBC Two. --

0:43:41 > 0:43:47Expedition Volcano.

0:43:47 > 0:43:49At the start of the show we asked you for photos

0:43:49 > 0:43:51of your World Cup winning dinners, and you've sent

0:43:51 > 0:43:53us lots of offerings.

0:43:53 > 0:43:53We've selected two of the tastiest looking ones.

0:43:55 > 0:44:04Here is toad in the hole and here is the paella. It's up to you.The

0:44:04 > 0:44:09first looks like something Aldo would abseil into it. Toad on the

0:44:09 > 0:44:17hole is something I would rather be eating.Katherine?What is it?

0:44:17 > 0:44:24Yorkshire pudding with sausages.Not that one.One all. OK.I would have

0:44:24 > 0:44:34to go with toad in the hole. There we go.Sian, winner, winner, chicken

0:44:34 > 0:44:37dinner - well, toad in the hole.

0:44:37 > 0:44:40Earlier on we met the parents of a baby who was waiting to have

0:44:40 > 0:44:42surgery on her heart to save her life.

0:44:42 > 0:44:44Now you're about to see a truly incredible

0:44:44 > 0:44:48piece of medicine as she's prepared for surgery.

0:44:48 > 0:44:54Holly and Mark's first baby is in neo anyway' intensive care. She was

0:44:54 > 0:44:58born with a rare heart condition and can't survive without open heart

0:44:58 > 0:45:04surgery. New mum Holly can't take her eyes off.She's the most

0:45:04 > 0:45:10gorgeous thing I've ever seen.Her condition is stable, she weighs

0:45:10 > 0:45:177.5lbs. She has a name.I would like to welcome to the home Ivy Hope

0:45:17 > 0:45:25Florence Lloyd. We love her to bits. Blue at birth, she has had one

0:45:25 > 0:45:30procedure which has helped to flood her heart with red oxygenated blood.

0:45:30 > 0:45:34It's been so much harder and more emotion al than I thought it would

0:45:34 > 0:45:42be. Just seeing everything that she's had to go through.Ivy is nine

0:45:42 > 0:45:49days old. Today, surgeons will operate to switch the main arteries

0:45:49 > 0:46:00of Ivy's heart. Andy Parry has studied information on her heart.

0:46:00 > 0:46:04Operating on someone else's child is a considerable responsibility

0:46:04 > 0:46:07knowing the risks associated with the operation. Like everything in

0:46:07 > 0:46:13life. It's a risk - benefit, balance.It's the moment her parents

0:46:13 > 0:46:19have been dreading. Mark can't bear to leave Ivy's side.She's so

0:46:19 > 0:46:24delicate. Going to surgery has been really tough. But we realise that

0:46:24 > 0:46:26she needs to have that to be well. So...

0:46:35 > 0:46:42It is 11am and the theatre is ready. I am so worried about how we will

0:46:42 > 0:46:53cope over the next few hours.Holly and Mark Begin the most anxious wait

0:46:53 > 0:47:03of their lives. Their tiny baby is now in the care of anaesthetist

0:47:03 > 0:47:09Richard Berenger.The smaller the patient the more fiddly it is.Mr

0:47:09 > 0:47:17Parry will be operating on a heart the size of a walnut. The coronary

0:47:17 > 0:47:21arteries are minute.You have to move those arteries across without

0:47:21 > 0:47:27stretching them or kinking them. If you manage that then the heart works

0:47:27 > 0:47:31nicely afterwards. If you don't get it quite right, you can cause

0:47:31 > 0:47:37limitations of blood to the heart and the heart does not work as well.

0:47:37 > 0:47:41Baby Ivy is ready for surgery. Her blood pressure, the pleasure in her

0:47:41 > 0:47:47veins and her brain will be monitored throughout. -- the

0:47:47 > 0:47:53pressure in her veins.Week open the chest. We dissect out the blood

0:47:53 > 0:48:00vessels so we can do the operation. Baby Ivy is given a drug so blood

0:48:00 > 0:48:05clots do not form during the surgery. Now she is connected to the

0:48:05 > 0:48:10bypass machine with two tubes.One takes blood out of the heart, the

0:48:10 > 0:48:15other takes blood back to the heart having been through the lung bypass

0:48:15 > 0:48:21machine.Mr Parry will stop Ivy's heart. The monitor goes to zero.

0:48:21 > 0:48:27Ivy's heart is no longer beating. The most challenging work is about

0:48:27 > 0:48:32to begin. Such is the concentration required, our camera is asked to

0:48:32 > 0:48:38leave. Over the next Alan and a half, the arteries are carefully

0:48:38 > 0:48:44moved into the correct positions -- over the next hour and a half. When

0:48:44 > 0:48:50our cameras are invited back in, Ivy's heart is beating again. It is

0:48:50 > 0:48:54good news.We are off bypass. We have done an arterial switch

0:48:54 > 0:48:59operation. We have done an echocardiogram which shows there is

0:48:59 > 0:49:02good flow in the coronary arteries and we should be closing this little

0:49:02 > 0:49:09one's chest.As soon as they are told the operation is over, Mark and

0:49:09 > 0:49:21Holly rush to paediatric intensive care. Their relief is overwhelming.

0:49:21 > 0:49:27Holly and Mark are here along with baby Ivy. She has just been sick but

0:49:27 > 0:49:34she is such a good little girl this afternoon. I will get you a tissue.

0:49:34 > 0:49:40We knew this was about to happen at! Years the new dress you have got for

0:49:40 > 0:49:48a television appearance. She is 15 weeks today?She is doing

0:49:48 > 0:49:53fantastically well. She is thriving. Thank you for inviting our cameras

0:49:53 > 0:49:56along. That must have been incredibly difficult for you to make

0:49:56 > 0:49:59the decision about whether you want anyone to witness what you were

0:49:59 > 0:50:08going through there.The thought of people being their in such a

0:50:08 > 0:50:12difficult time of our lives was really hard but the thought that we

0:50:12 > 0:50:16could raise awareness of congenital heart disease and the fantastic work

0:50:16 > 0:50:25the British art can -- the British Heart Foundation do was important.

0:50:25 > 0:50:29Are there any restrictions on what she will be able to do growing up?

0:50:29 > 0:50:37There are a few which we have been told. No piercings and tattoos.That

0:50:37 > 0:50:43is a shame!I am really happy about that.And contact sport, she needs

0:50:43 > 0:50:50to be careful, but apart from that, she should be able to lead a

0:50:50 > 0:50:55completely normal life.And just a word on Mr Andrew Parry, your

0:50:55 > 0:50:59surgeon. As parents completely helpless in that situation, you are

0:50:59 > 0:51:04just putting everything in his hands?He's a super talented guy and

0:51:04 > 0:51:10we trust him 100% with ivy and he has done a fantastic job. He really

0:51:10 > 0:51:16cares about what he does.Thank you for letting us film you and

0:51:16 > 0:51:21congratulations. Thank you, Ivy. Have a wonderful Christmas. I am

0:51:21 > 0:51:28sure you will.

0:51:28 > 0:51:31Vic Reeves is carving out quite a career for himself as an artist

0:51:31 > 0:51:33using his real name Jim Moir.

0:51:33 > 0:51:36So when we challenged him to spend a day by the seaside painting,

0:51:36 > 0:51:37he jumped at the chance.

0:51:37 > 0:51:38We are moving on now.

0:51:38 > 0:51:39We are moving on now.

0:51:39 > 0:51:42However, he ended up slightly more windswept than he'd bargained for.

0:51:42 > 0:51:47This year, the One Show has been sending people who love painting to

0:51:47 > 0:51:53revisit coastal scenes painted by William Daniel. He produced 300

0:51:53 > 0:51:58prints called a voyage around Britain. They had sunny weather but

0:51:58 > 0:52:02I have drawn the short straw. They sent me to Dover in October, and I

0:52:02 > 0:52:10am loving it. So ferocious, the wind and the rain and the waves. It is

0:52:10 > 0:52:23exhilarating. Seaweed just flew by. I love adverse weather conditions,

0:52:23 > 0:52:36and I love the sea. It gets right into your soul. It's a seascape.

0:52:36 > 0:52:40Right, I'm pleased enough with that but my true challenge today is

0:52:40 > 0:52:46finding a particular view painted by William Daniel three centuries ago.

0:52:46 > 0:52:51That is called Shakespeare's cliff, so-called because it was in King

0:52:51 > 0:52:55Lear. I am here to paint this scene which Daniel painted in the early

0:52:55 > 0:53:011800 's. It looks pretty much identical. I'm in exactly the same

0:53:01 > 0:53:07spot. Here I am painting this brutalist 16 in brutal weather and I

0:53:07 > 0:53:14will paint it in a brutalist dip style. Thank you. And diesel would

0:53:14 > 0:53:19probably blow away so I am securing my canvas with boulders. I am using

0:53:19 > 0:53:27acrylics so I need some water. This painting will have the water, ground

0:53:27 > 0:53:32up chalk from the cliffs, and rust from a shipwreck. Look, that is

0:53:32 > 0:53:39quite nice, isn't it? And I can use colours which aren't really even

0:53:39 > 0:53:48there, it put a bit of red there because I can. Daniel was here quite

0:53:48 > 0:53:56clearly on a lovely day with a picnic. I spend most of my time in a

0:53:56 > 0:54:01studio, not painting landscapes, worried is nice and warm. But I must

0:54:01 > 0:54:06say, it is really good fun doing this. Since Daniel's time, two

0:54:06 > 0:54:11railway tunnels have been cut through the cliff. And the Channel

0:54:11 > 0:54:19Tunnel runs underneath. At this very moment, families are off on lovely

0:54:19 > 0:54:27camping trips to France on holiday, right under the cliff. But that is

0:54:27 > 0:54:32not the only way to get to France, oh no. If you don't have a ticket,

0:54:32 > 0:54:38there is an alternative. You are not contemplating a cross-channel swim

0:54:38 > 0:54:44in this weather, are you?Absolutely not. This is a little bit too rough.

0:54:44 > 0:54:51Have you done it more than once?34 in all.What possessed you? This is

0:54:51 > 0:54:57the busiest shipping road in the world, isn't it?Yes, but in 150

0:54:57 > 0:55:06years of Channel swimming, that has not been a single accident.I think

0:55:06 > 0:55:10I want to have a gun ships at the end of it.You get lots of strange

0:55:10 > 0:55:14sorts. I get about a mile out and I think, whose stupid idea was this?

0:55:14 > 0:55:17It is a sense of achievement to challenge yourself to the absolute

0:55:17 > 0:55:22limit.Because it is there. And Shakespeare Cliff is there is well,

0:55:22 > 0:55:29for me to complete my painting. I love using acrylics and I love using

0:55:29 > 0:55:37the elements to shape the painting. Letting the wind attack it now. Yes,

0:55:37 > 0:55:43I reckon that is cooked.

0:55:47 > 0:55:57There we are, a day's work in Dover and its environs. A seascape and

0:55:57 > 0:56:02there we have Shakespeare's cliff. Ladies and gentlemen, I can

0:56:02 > 0:56:05thoroughly recommend painting in adverse weather conditions. It

0:56:05 > 0:56:09cleanses the soul and makes you feel alive!

0:56:09 > 0:56:15I am going to try it.I bet he was freezing. Good effort though.

0:56:15 > 0:56:17Well, that's just about it from us tonight.

0:56:17 > 0:56:20Thanks to all our guests - Richard and Katherine -

0:56:20 > 0:56:21as always, its been a pleasure.

0:56:21 > 0:56:23Richard's, The World Cup Of Everything is out now,

0:56:23 > 0:56:25and Katherine's Glitter Room tour continues

0:56:25 > 0:56:26around the country until March.

0:56:26 > 0:56:29But now, it's time for the fabulous Seal and, I Put A Spell On You.

0:56:46 > 0:56:51# I put a spell on you

0:56:51 > 0:56:55# 'Cause you're mine

0:57:02 > 0:57:08# You better stop the things you do

0:57:08 > 0:57:12# I ain't lyin'

0:57:12 > 0:57:15# No, I ain't lyin'

0:57:17 > 0:57:21# You know I can't stand it

0:57:21 > 0:57:28# You're runnin' around

0:57:28 > 0:57:36# You know better baby

0:57:36 > 0:57:39# I can't stand the way you put me down

0:57:39 > 0:57:40# Yeah, Yeah

0:57:40 > 0:57:41# I put a spell on you

0:57:41 > 0:57:46# Because you're mine

0:57:46 > 0:57:50# You're mine

0:58:37 > 0:58:45There are macro you don't love him. I put a spell on you.

0:58:45 > 0:58:47# I put a spell on you

0:58:47 > 0:58:57# Because you're mine.#.

0:59:08 > 0:59:11# You are mine...