:00:27. > :00:31.$:/STARTFEED. Hello and welcome to the One Show. Happy St George's Day.
:00:31. > :00:37.If our guest tonight was asked to slay the dragon, she would rely on
:00:37. > :00:43.her extreme cunning and killer turn of phrase, rather than her sheer
:00:43. > :00:52.size. She is five foot of dazzling brain and comic brilliance. It's
:00:52. > :00:57.sandy tocks Vic -- Sandi Toksvig. St George was foreign. He was
:00:57. > :01:03.Palestinian. Of course. Kind of an odd choice for an English saint.
:01:03. > :01:08.Are you dressed for it? It's Shakespeare's birthday, which has a
:01:08. > :01:18.deep place in my heart. He died on the same day that he was born. Do
:01:18. > :01:21.you know why? Why? He liked a few. Overindulgence. He would have been
:01:21. > :01:26.449 today. He probably would have had a drink to celebrate. Maybe
:01:26. > :01:33.you'll have one tomorrow, because we hear news that you've got an
:01:33. > :01:39.award coming? Yes, it's very nice, isn't it? Wonderful. It's called
:01:39. > :01:43.The Voice Of the Viewer and Listener.
:01:43. > :01:47.APPLAUSE Sandi is here to talk about the new
:01:47. > :01:51.series of her quiz show, so we are getting into the mood. Tonight, if
:01:51. > :02:01.you've ever been on a TV quiz we want to see your pictures to prove
:02:01. > :02:03.
:02:03. > :02:08.it. You with the cheesey grin, arm an Bob Holness. Tell us the
:02:08. > :02:12.question you didn't get right. We'll not ask the one. Nobody has
:02:12. > :02:18.asked you that one. Before, all that, at this time of year, the
:02:18. > :02:21.battle for primary school places can turn mild-mannered parents into
:02:22. > :02:30.wild-eyed animals. It's not an easy job giving everyone their school of
:02:30. > :02:37.their choice and with a population boom it's getting harder and harder.
:02:37. > :02:40.You'll get an e-mail today. It's just gone 9am in Bristol council's
:02:40. > :02:45.school admissions office and the phones are ringing non-stop.
:02:45. > :02:48.Parents will find out what primary school their child will be going to
:02:48. > :02:54.and no everyone's totally happy. You didn't get one. You are saying
:02:54. > :02:58.if you moved closer. You can exercise your right of appeal if
:02:58. > :03:02.you like. You will need to show you that you do own that property or
:03:02. > :03:05.you do have a tenancy agreement. Many local authorities are
:03:05. > :03:10.struggling to accommodate the children needing places this year.
:03:10. > :03:15.It's down to a sharp increase in the birth rate five years ago. In
:03:15. > :03:20.Bristol this year, nearly 5500 children applied for places. Almost
:03:20. > :03:25.1,400 more than five years ago. How will they fit them all in? Mum of
:03:25. > :03:28.three here is one of those parents, anxious to see what awaits her
:03:28. > :03:34.four-year-old son, Martin. He's the first of her children to go to
:03:34. > :03:38.school and like all her friends, she is desperate to get her number
:03:38. > :03:42.one choice. For us it's a nice school we could really like and the
:03:42. > :03:45.school that is further away and not got such a good reputation and that
:03:45. > :03:49.would make life more difficult. you understand that the council, if
:03:49. > :03:52.they physically haven't got the space, they have to allocate spaces
:03:52. > :03:56.somewhere? We understand their point of view, but the disruption
:03:56. > :04:00.to our children and working parents is absolutely massive. We consider
:04:00. > :04:03.it a fundamental right for every child to go within walking distance.
:04:03. > :04:07.While Martin plays, he's unaware of the all-important choice which is
:04:07. > :04:11.about to be made for him. His mum and all other parents filled in a
:04:11. > :04:14.school application form, stating their preferred schools in order.
:04:14. > :04:18.By law, all children have to be offered a place, but there's no
:04:18. > :04:24.guarantee it would be one of their preferred choices and that's when
:04:24. > :04:27.the phones start ringing. We get a lot of the same stories. Just about
:04:27. > :04:31.how emotionally involved they are with the school and how
:04:31. > :04:37.disappointed the child is that they haven't got to that school. What
:04:37. > :04:41.are you doing about this? We are some modular classrooms and we are
:04:41. > :04:45.taking older buildings and converting them into school spaces
:04:45. > :04:53.and sometimes we can do the traditional build an extension on
:04:54. > :05:00.to a school. Across the country, by this autumn, 600,000, I hope you're
:05:00. > :05:05.paying attention, children will be enterg reception, but by 2014 --
:05:05. > :05:08.entering reception, but by 2014, an extra 220,000 are set to join them.
:05:08. > :05:16.Whatever happens, schools and local authorities need to start thinking
:05:16. > :05:20.fast how they will be secured a place. St John's primary in the
:05:20. > :05:25.Clifton area of Bristol has been ranked as outstanding, so not
:05:25. > :05:30.surprising it's in demand, but not everyone can get in. The intake of
:05:30. > :05:37.this school was 45 pupils and then last year it came close to bursting
:05:37. > :05:43.when they took on an extra 30. So, now, every year they need to find
:05:44. > :05:47.space for 775 pupils. How will they -- 75 pupils. How will they do
:05:47. > :05:51.that? This is the job for the police. Or rather a police station.
:05:51. > :05:57.From September, the school will have a second site. In the old
:05:57. > :06:00.police station. Deputy head, Ali took me to see the station, which
:06:01. > :06:04.is a four-minute walk from the school. It's on the other side of a
:06:04. > :06:10.busy main road but a crossing is going in and pavements will be
:06:10. > :06:14.widened by September. You've turned a police station in a school?
:06:14. > :06:17.we have. And right now, you are standing in the cells. This is
:06:17. > :06:21.where they'll have detention, is it? This is going to be our library
:06:21. > :06:25.and as you can see, we are trying to retain many of the features.
:06:26. > :06:29.Brilliant idea. It's a building site? It is, but it will be
:06:29. > :06:34.finished. When this is at full capacity how many extra will you
:06:34. > :06:40.have? 210 children from this local area. Are you excited about it?
:06:40. > :06:45.Very. It's amazing. It's a very creative project to turn what was a
:06:45. > :06:49.disused building into an exciting school. While expanding schools can
:06:49. > :06:52.happen pretty quickly, creating new schools is much more difficult,
:06:53. > :06:56.because of the lengthy approval process. Local councils are bidding
:06:57. > :07:01.for a share of �1 billion worth of Government cash, which is being
:07:01. > :07:07.used to help create further schools places in problem areas. Meanwhile,
:07:07. > :07:11.for this family, the news is finally in. It's the local one.
:07:11. > :07:16.First choice? First choice. It's a lovely school and it would be a
:07:16. > :07:20.great experience for children. Martin is one of the lucky ones.
:07:20. > :07:24.Bristol managed to offered 87% of applicants their first choice, but
:07:24. > :07:29.it leaves almost 700 children and parents disappointed with where
:07:29. > :07:33.they'll be going in September. It can be very, very difficult and
:07:33. > :07:39.tense times. We found that our daughter has got into the local
:07:39. > :07:42.school, so we are happy. She has an elder sibling. That helps a little.
:07:42. > :07:49.Very alarming statistics there. Apart from the long, winter nights,
:07:49. > :07:53.what else can we put the boom in population down to?
:07:53. > :07:57.LAUGHTER That is a nice way of putting it.
:07:57. > :08:01.Basically, more babies are born than people are dying. Women - we
:08:01. > :08:06.have more women of child-bearing age living now and women having
:08:06. > :08:12.babies in later life, but we've had a population increase, so the last
:08:13. > :08:17.census was 2001 and then 2011. It's the largest increase of 3.7 million
:08:17. > :08:22.people since records began. A lot. Half of that is down to immigration.
:08:22. > :08:27.A quarter of all babies born from 2010 to 2011 are born to women who
:08:27. > :08:32.weren't born in either England and Wales, so lots of bilingual babies.
:08:32. > :08:36.You said in the film we'll need 250,000 more places. The question
:08:36. > :08:42.is, is the Government doing enough to cope with the dramatic rise?
:08:42. > :08:47.Well, they increased places by 80,000 from 2010 to 2011. By
:08:47. > :08:52.September they will have an extra 110,000 places. Big figures. You
:08:52. > :08:57.are right, they need the extra 250,000. They've put forward �5
:08:57. > :09:01.billion to build new schools and find new developments, to increase
:09:01. > :09:06.sizes, but schools are at capacity. A fifth of all primary schools are
:09:06. > :09:09.at full. Isn't there a cap on the size, because you might cram more
:09:10. > :09:14.kids in? You don't want more than 31. You are right, any more than
:09:15. > :09:18.that, how will the teachers cope? The fact is we need these places.
:09:18. > :09:21.The Government is putting the money forward. We will see how they will
:09:21. > :09:24.develop the new schools in the future, but chances are if you have
:09:24. > :09:28.a derelict pub near you, maybe it will be a school and if you fancy
:09:28. > :09:33.becoming a teacher, I would say now is a good time to start applying.
:09:33. > :09:37.One of the ways as well, people with a bit more income will be able
:09:37. > :09:41.to buy their way into a catchment area. There is a lot of renting
:09:41. > :09:45.that goes on. People leave homes. We see that happening a lot.
:09:45. > :09:51.that the situation right across the UK it's more city areas? Totally
:09:51. > :09:54.and London is the big problem area. 250,000, 40% of that is within the
:09:54. > :09:57.London area, so this is the main problem, but beyond that,
:09:57. > :10:00.Manchester, Cardiff, you saw there Bristol. Interestingly, Scotland
:10:00. > :10:04.not so much and Northern Ireland has the other way. The problem is
:10:04. > :10:09.the other way, where they need to fill places. Maybe that's where
:10:09. > :10:12.people could move. Yes, but we don't want to export our children.
:10:12. > :10:18.We don't! Thank you for that. We are moving to the opposite end to
:10:18. > :10:23.the age spectrum, because by the time you've reached 100 you've
:10:23. > :10:27.flown death-defying missions over enemy lines and had a couple of
:10:27. > :10:31.grand kids, then there is nothing to surprise you, but the family of
:10:31. > :10:35.Bomber Command Eric Clarke have got something special. I'm here in
:10:35. > :10:38.Doncaster to join in the 100th birthday celebrations of Eric
:10:38. > :10:41.Clarke, a veteran of bomber Church of Scotland in the Second World War.
:10:41. > :10:51.He'll be joined by friends, family and former colleagues and there are
:10:51. > :10:52.
:10:52. > :10:57.a few very special surprises in store for Eric. From 1940 until the
:10:57. > :11:01.end of the war, Eric Clarke served in RAF Bomber Command, undertaking
:11:01. > :11:07.one of the most dangerous tasks of any British servicemen in the war.
:11:07. > :11:13.How did it feel taking those incredible risks day after day?
:11:13. > :11:16.suppose it's human nature being what it is you say, "Hear we are d
:11:16. > :11:21.here we are, fingers crosses." Something like that. Frightening,
:11:21. > :11:26.but it's one of those things. We were tried to do it and here you
:11:26. > :11:35.are you just do it. Do you feel like a hero? No, I'm a very, very
:11:35. > :11:42.lucky survivor. I did not want to go to war. But we had to go to war.
:11:42. > :11:48.We were fighting forure existence. 55,000 Bomber Command crew died
:11:48. > :11:53.during the war. That's almost half. The average age was 22. The average
:11:53. > :11:56.lifespan during active service was just seven to eight weeks. It was
:11:56. > :12:04.incredibly risky and it's a miracle that Eric managed to survive the
:12:04. > :12:07.entire war. How special a day is this going to be for Eric?
:12:07. > :12:14.Incredibly special. He knows he's coming here, but he doesn't know
:12:14. > :12:18.he'll be awarded the Bomber Command Clasp? What is it? At the end of
:12:18. > :12:24.the war, because of the damage across Germany, it became
:12:24. > :12:27.politically unacceptable to rise the courage of the Command, so for
:12:27. > :12:33.a very long time their service was simply not recognised. The world we
:12:33. > :12:42.live in was shaped largely by people like Eric. This one Eric is
:12:42. > :12:48.yours. APPLAUSE
:12:48. > :12:51.Very proud. It's really fantastic. It's surpassed anything I imagined.
:12:51. > :12:55.He talks a lot about the respect that people give him. So, yeah,
:12:55. > :12:59.he's very, very pleased. I feel really honoured to have him here
:12:59. > :13:05.and be here with him to celebrate his birthday. It's a really big
:13:05. > :13:08.inspiration to me and many other people. He's an inspiration to
:13:08. > :13:13.everybody. Very popular with everybody, particularly with the
:13:13. > :13:18.ladies. He will tip his hat to you and things like that, when he
:13:18. > :13:25.speaks to you. He'll open the door for you. You don't get that now, do
:13:25. > :13:35.you? But there's one more surprise in store for Eric. A fly-past by a
:13:35. > :13:45.
:13:46. > :13:51.Lancaster Bomber, the very same What kind of a birthday has it been
:13:51. > :14:01.for you today? It has been a wonderful birthday. I am grateful
:14:01. > :14:04.
:14:04. > :14:09.that I have been able to be part of The Eric is going to sleep well
:14:09. > :14:15.tonight. You just have so much respect for somebody like that. I
:14:15. > :14:18.met a woman in her 90s recently, and it was her job in the war to
:14:18. > :14:24.transport Spitfires to where they needed to be. You forget about
:14:24. > :14:28.those women as well. There are lots of legendary stories about my
:14:28. > :14:33.rather fierce English grand mother. Every single house in their street
:14:33. > :14:41.was bombed except hers, and it was always said in the family, it was
:14:41. > :14:44.because she was not allow it. -- she would not allow it. Hopefully,
:14:44. > :14:50.these are things which will be passed on to the younger generation,
:14:50. > :14:55.stories which have to be told. Speaking of things we should know,
:14:55. > :15:02.you are back with a brand new series of 1001 Things You Should
:15:02. > :15:12.Know on Channel 4. What examples would you give? For example, in pop
:15:12. > :15:23.
:15:23. > :15:28.music, I would say, I think you Of Adele's debut album. As a
:15:28. > :15:32.follow-up question, I my ask you, what is her surname? The idea is,
:15:32. > :15:39.you get no money for the thing that you should know, but you get some
:15:39. > :15:47.money for the extra one. And there is quite a lot of money at stake.
:15:47. > :15:53.The pot grows and what have you... We have had people win money in the
:15:53. > :15:56.area of �10,000. It can be life changing money. The questions are
:15:56. > :16:03.never easy unless you know the answer. We have got a brilliant
:16:03. > :16:13.example of that. What term for a wealthy person is also a type of
:16:13. > :16:19.
:16:19. > :16:29.shortbread? No, not coming. Rich tea. Incorrect, I'm afraid. Does
:16:29. > :16:29.
:16:29. > :16:38.anybody in the audience know the answer to that? I'm sure they have
:16:38. > :16:42.been briefed. I learnt in geography about oxbow lakes at school, and
:16:42. > :16:46.there was in the quiet carriage on a train a couple of months ago, and
:16:46. > :16:52.I suddenly stood up when we were going through the countryside and
:16:52. > :16:59.shouted, oxbow lake! I had never seen one before. And people can win
:16:59. > :17:04.�10,000 based on one question. there one kind of stand-out,
:17:04. > :17:14.ridiculous, obvious thing that nobody could ever come up with?
:17:14. > :17:19.
:17:19. > :17:25.There was one person, and there was asking about a furspig. And the
:17:25. > :17:29.second person asked me exactly the same as the first person had asked.
:17:30. > :17:35.I said, on the grounds that the first person was wrong, probably
:17:35. > :17:45.not. And you were one of the first people on Have I Got News For You?
:17:45. > :17:59.
:17:59. > :18:03.I think Orville is the key, because all four are being worked by
:18:03. > :18:08.somebody. I think the interesting thing was the Hackett. They did two
:18:08. > :18:13.pilots, one with Angus Dayton as the host, and one with me as the
:18:13. > :18:18.host. They said, we really like you, but we cannot possibly have a woman
:18:18. > :18:23.in charge of the news. It was more than 20 years ago. So perhaps
:18:23. > :18:31.things would have been different now. You have had such an eclectic
:18:31. > :18:34.career. Are you writing a musical? I am. I have finished another book,
:18:34. > :18:40.and I have been commissioned to write a musical about the legendary
:18:40. > :18:47.Dusty Springfield. And the house is resounding with music. Are you a
:18:47. > :18:51.passionate music-lover? absolutely love musicals. I was
:18:51. > :18:57.asked to write a play for the West End last year, and they came to see
:18:57. > :19:01.that, and they thought I might be the person to do her life story. I
:19:01. > :19:09.finally managed to make up with the person I am working with on the
:19:09. > :19:16.producing side, and as we sat down to dinner, we realised it was Dusty
:19:16. > :19:25.Springfield's birthday. You and birthdays are! I know, and
:19:25. > :19:33.Shakespeare's birthday as well! said that books can teach you
:19:33. > :19:43.everything. Well, Angellica Bell has got the story of one very
:19:43. > :19:46.
:19:46. > :19:50.important book for quizmasters. Back in the 1960s, Ask The Family
:19:50. > :19:56.was one of the most popular quiz shows on TV. But today, you would
:19:56. > :20:01.be expected to know something very different. In the kitchen, vessels
:20:01. > :20:07.known for cookery -- used for cookery are often known as pots and
:20:07. > :20:12.what? What has happened to our general knowledge in the last 50
:20:12. > :20:18.years? Should we care? My general knowledge is about to be put to the
:20:18. > :20:24.test using this, which was first published in 1956, aimed at 10-
:20:24. > :20:29.year-old to 15-year-olds. Will I know end of the answers? It was
:20:29. > :20:34.popular with schoolchildren in the 1950s and 1960s. New additions were
:20:34. > :20:40.printed every few years. My inquisitor today is a quiz show
:20:40. > :20:50.tighten, who has competed on Mastermind, Who Wants To Be A
:20:50. > :20:51.
:20:51. > :21:00.Millionaire?, as well as being one of the BBC's Eggheads. What metals
:21:00. > :21:07.go to make up glass and Brawns? Copper? I don't know you were right
:21:07. > :21:13.about the copper, anyway. What great man sailed in Santa Maria?
:21:13. > :21:23.Christopher Columbus came into my head. Spot on, well done. What
:21:23. > :21:24.
:21:24. > :21:30.would you be interested in if you talked about a snaffle. I don't
:21:30. > :21:35.know. It is a small bit used in riding. Do you think 50 years ago,
:21:35. > :21:38.young people would have known the answers to those questions? I think
:21:38. > :21:43.so, but more due to the fact that this was the kind of thing they
:21:43. > :21:46.were learning in school at the time. Back in the 1950s, general
:21:46. > :21:53.knowledge was considered very important, which paid off if you
:21:53. > :21:59.found yourself on a quiz show. you think we do not care about
:21:59. > :22:03.general knowledge now? Actually, I do. It is critically important,
:22:03. > :22:08.because a good general knowledge and which is your life. Today, with
:22:08. > :22:12.the Internet, we have instant access to information. But it has
:22:12. > :22:16.affected our ability to remember facts. Researchers at Columbia
:22:16. > :22:19.University carried out a series of experiments revealing that when
:22:19. > :22:25.participants knew they could turn to the Internet for information,
:22:25. > :22:29.they did not bother to memorise it. American research tells us that
:22:29. > :22:34.people have, in a way, stopped trying to remember things, and they
:22:34. > :22:38.are using search engines as an extension to their memory. We can
:22:38. > :22:42.apply the information and use it in better ways. It is actually making
:22:42. > :22:49.us more clever than we used to be. But that inability to remember did
:22:50. > :22:54.not help this lot. What is three- quarters of 44? 11. What is the
:22:54. > :23:01.process of selecting and employing actors to play in a particular
:23:01. > :23:05.production? Chorus. Casting. But what does this man think is the key
:23:05. > :23:09.to good general knowledge? It is curiosity. If you are interested in
:23:09. > :23:15.something, you will learn about it, it will not be a chore, it will be
:23:15. > :23:25.a pleasure. But what about the people on the street? The Divine
:23:25. > :23:35.Comedy was written by who? No idea. Who painted the little street?
:23:35. > :23:35.
:23:35. > :23:45.not have a clue. How many cards does each player have in the game
:23:45. > :23:53.of bridge? No idea. What well-known colour is this shade? I thought it
:23:54. > :23:59.was red. Who painted the Birth of Venus? Botticelli? I knew you were
:23:59. > :24:02.going to go with that! We may have become better at accessing
:24:02. > :24:12.information online, but for some of us, it will never stop the thrill
:24:12. > :24:13.
:24:13. > :24:17.of getting something right by using what is up here, and not in here.
:24:17. > :24:24.Sandi has told us all about the things that we should know, but how
:24:24. > :24:31.much does she know? Let's have some tension, please. Here we go. Four
:24:31. > :24:37.categories for you. Here's a twist - the questions all come from old
:24:37. > :24:42.TV quizzes, and you get to choose which quiz your question comes from.
:24:42. > :24:50.And you are not just playing for your self-respect, because we know
:24:50. > :24:59.you love liquorice. And our Department has fashioned your face
:24:59. > :25:08.out of liquorice. It is like looking in a mirror! Are you ready?
:25:08. > :25:12.Yes! Basically, if you look at this big screen, we have got four
:25:12. > :25:21.categories, there they are, and you have to choose from them. History
:25:21. > :25:29.first, and you can choose from The Weakest Link in 2000 or Every
:25:29. > :25:35.Second Counts from 1990. In ancient history, how many Punic wars were
:25:35. > :25:43.fought in the second and third century BC? It was at least two, I
:25:43. > :25:52.am going to say two. It was three! Carry on. Does that mean I only get
:25:52. > :25:58.a bit of the face? Yes, we will take the mouth off. The next
:25:59. > :26:07.category is food and drink. You can go for Ask The Family from 1974 or
:26:07. > :26:16.Mastermind. Let's go for Ask The Family. What dish may be said to be
:26:16. > :26:24.a cavity pretending to be an amphibian? I am going to say toad-
:26:24. > :26:32.in-the-hole. Yes! We can put the myself back on now. Moving on to
:26:32. > :26:42.the third round, it is music. Would you like Going For Gold, 1985, or
:26:42. > :26:43.
:26:43. > :26:53.Bob's Full House? Off you go... the musical Pink no, Wagon, what
:26:53. > :26:57.
:26:57. > :27:03.did they call the wind? Mariah. I laughed at Bob Monkhouse, he was an
:27:03. > :27:13.absolute genius. The last category is animals. Do you want a question
:27:13. > :27:14.
:27:14. > :27:19.from 1994, Pets Win Prizes, or University Challenge? I will go for
:27:20. > :27:29.Pets Win Prizes. How many toes doesn't mean you have a niche but?
:27:30. > :27:34.
:27:34. > :27:42.I am going to say three. -- how many toes does an emu have on each
:27:42. > :27:52.foot? And I was once attacked by one live on children's television.
:27:52. > :27:58.
:27:58. > :28:06.That's why I know. It came at me! Can I take all of it? So, we asked
:28:06. > :28:16.for pictures of you encore shows. This was from Rebecca, was on Block
:28:16. > :28:16.
:28:16. > :28:24.Busters in 1988. Bob Holness, a brilliant man. Much missed. This
:28:24. > :28:32.was someone who appeared in the 1980s on Countdown. Look at this,
:28:32. > :28:39.this one won a hamper on Child's Play. I think that is Sarah Greene,
:28:39. > :28:47.yes. That is all we have got time for tonight. Lovely to have you
:28:47. > :28:52.with us, Sandi. Always a pleasure. 1001 Things You Should Know is on