:00:23. > :00:28.Hair and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker.
:00:28. > :00:34.Tonight, 101 reasons to watch the show. They are Dalmatians, not just
:00:34. > :00:40.a pretty face. And we are joined by a singer who is all things nice.
:00:40. > :00:45.And sporty and spice, it is Melanie C! We have to offer our guests a
:00:45. > :00:50.little drink. Usually, it is water. You are lucky, it is wine tonight.
:00:50. > :01:00.Can you tell the difference between East two bottles of wine? One of
:01:00. > :01:03.
:01:03. > :01:09.them is fake. On first look, no. Have a second look. No, they both
:01:09. > :01:14.look pretty identical. A I'll give you the answer. It is this one. You
:01:14. > :01:19.can tell because the level is a bit further down. It happens with lots
:01:19. > :01:22.of different wines. Trading standards have seen a worrying
:01:22. > :01:32.increase in the manufacture of counterfeit alcohol. What may seem
:01:32. > :01:34.
:01:34. > :01:38.like a bargain at the time can you Many of us enjoy a drink. We also
:01:38. > :01:43.like a bargain but with criminal gangs producing counterfeit booze
:01:43. > :01:48.in convincing packaging, do we always know what we are drinking?
:01:48. > :01:53.And his drinking fake booze really that bad? I have got a fake bottle
:01:53. > :02:00.of vodka here. It looks and smells like a bottle of vodka and it
:02:00. > :02:05.tastes, if I dare take a sip... Quite horrible, but just like neat
:02:05. > :02:11.vodka. I don't feel particularly ill. I think it is time to see a
:02:11. > :02:16.guy who can tell me exactly what is in this and how dangerous it is.
:02:16. > :02:20.Criminals care more about profit than purity so the public analyst
:02:20. > :02:25.which tests counterfeit Blues have been finding a range of harmful
:02:25. > :02:34.chemicals. Give me the bad news. What is in the vodka or I sampled
:02:34. > :02:38.and some of the others you have got? This sample has icy proper
:02:38. > :02:42.milk which is an industrial chemical used in solvents, paints
:02:42. > :02:47.and screen wash. It is not particularly harmful, luckily for
:02:48. > :02:54.you. I might have been lucky but Chris has found chloroform in other
:02:54. > :02:57.bottles. Chloroform is a toxic chemical. It is toxic to the
:02:57. > :03:02.kidneys and liver. There is enough in this bottle but if you drank it
:03:02. > :03:08.over a long period of time, you would get kidney problems. Are you
:03:08. > :03:12.seeing much stuff with chloroform? We are, yes. It is one of the most
:03:12. > :03:17.popular types of counterfeit spirits. And you have even got some
:03:17. > :03:23.wine. This, we have had a number of counterfeit bottles of wine. This
:03:23. > :03:27.is not one but we do not know what it is. That is worrying. Increasing
:03:27. > :03:33.amounts of fake boos are being seized in Britain. Last summer, six
:03:33. > :03:37.men were convicted of running an illegal distillery then London.
:03:37. > :03:43.Alcohol was produced in a warehouse which churned out 24 fake bottles
:03:43. > :03:47.of vodka or a minute. Fake booze is being found all over the UK. One
:03:47. > :03:51.hospital consultant believes some of those who have been drinking it
:03:51. > :03:56.are turning up in accident and emergency. We are seeing a large
:03:56. > :03:59.number of people coming in with alcohol related symptoms. The
:03:59. > :04:06.symptoms they are describing are much more pronounced. They are
:04:06. > :04:11.claiming more of visual problems, more severe abdominal pain and
:04:11. > :04:17.slurred speech. One wonders whether this could be related to
:04:17. > :04:20.counterfeit alcohol. A lot of the patient that cumin describe the
:04:20. > :04:25.symptoms as related to probably having their drinks spiked and
:04:25. > :04:29.initially, that is what we thought. But aren't all the symptoms which
:04:29. > :04:34.relate from drinking too much alcohol anyway? And as a nation, we
:04:34. > :04:38.are doing that at an alarming rate. The symptoms that patients are
:04:38. > :04:43.describing seem to be related to the ingredients of counterfeit
:04:43. > :04:48.alcohol. Methanol can cause permanent blindness, it can cause
:04:48. > :04:54.liver failure, it can cause kidney failure and these conditions can be
:04:54. > :04:57.irreversible. With counterfeit alcohol, blindness can be permanent.
:04:57. > :05:01.For sometimes people drink fake booze because it is cheaper but
:05:01. > :05:06.sometimes it is because they do not know it is counterfeit. Trading
:05:06. > :05:11.standards have begun a campaign to expose fake alcohol. There are
:05:11. > :05:15.things which members of the public can look out for. Labels can be
:05:15. > :05:21.crooked and creased. The Phil lines can be different. This one has a
:05:21. > :05:25.slightly lower level to the genuine product. Smirnoff has recently
:05:25. > :05:31.introduced a new silver label. This one here is a counterfeit and this
:05:31. > :05:34.one is a genuine bottle. There should be a duty stamp. If there is
:05:34. > :05:38.not, that is another indication that it could be counterfeit.
:05:38. > :05:43.Another thing which could identify the vodka being counterfeit is the
:05:43. > :05:48.price can be very low. The thing about counterfeit booze, you have
:05:48. > :05:51.no idea what chemicals you are putting into your body. It could be
:05:51. > :05:58.extremely damaging for your health. Sobering stuff.
:05:58. > :06:01.You do have to be so careful. I have a story about home-brew. I was
:06:01. > :06:07.on the Trans-Siberian Express and the bloke in the next carriage
:06:07. > :06:11.invited me through. I had a couple of drinks. I do not know what was
:06:11. > :06:15.in it. I needed somewhere so at the next station I got off and I was
:06:15. > :06:21.standing there with no phone, no wallet and the train leaves the
:06:21. > :06:26.station and I am sure -- stood in the middle of Siberia. I ran after
:06:26. > :06:33.the train and jumped on to it. You have got to be so careful. That is
:06:33. > :06:38.not like you, is it? Being stranded in Siberia because of vodka! View
:06:38. > :06:42.of one busy lady. You ran a triathlon and came first in the
:06:42. > :06:48.female group. You have starred in Blood Brothers in the West End,
:06:48. > :06:54.released a 4th album. 5th album! And became a mother to lovely
:06:54. > :06:56.Scarlet. Which one of those four things was the most challenging?
:06:56. > :07:02.would have to say and I think all parents would agree, having a child
:07:02. > :07:05.has to be the most challenging thing. It is so terrifying. You
:07:05. > :07:10.want to do the right thing and there is a lot to learn and it
:07:10. > :07:20.keeps changing every day. The first single from the new album, The Sea,
:07:20. > :07:45.
:07:45. > :07:50.# If there's a chance or break. I love this song. I am really
:07:50. > :07:54.excited about the whole album. look so glamourous. You are in a
:07:54. > :08:00.skimpy dress. Do you think becoming a mother has made you feel more
:08:00. > :08:08.sexy? I do feel more comfortable becoming a mum. I'm sure some of it
:08:08. > :08:17.is becoming bolder. I am really enjoying my new role. I love Week.
:08:17. > :08:23.It is a brilliant pasa doble song for all the ballroom fans.
:08:23. > :08:28.always comes back to A strictly! The Sea is an interesting name. Why
:08:28. > :08:33.did you choose that? Each morning I would walk along the seafront to
:08:33. > :08:40.the studio. I found it a really inspiring time. The opening track
:08:40. > :08:45.is The Sea. You can hear the waves crashing. An interesting story.
:08:45. > :08:48.When we did the shoot for the album cover, we were up in Whitby and we
:08:48. > :08:55.recorded The Sea and the tide coming in. We have used on the
:08:55. > :08:59.track. And going back to the whole blood brothers thing, you were
:08:59. > :09:05.nominated for an Olivier Award, have you thought about doing some
:09:05. > :09:11.more theatre? You were pretty scared. I was petrified. After
:09:11. > :09:16.having my little girl, I felt really courageous. I want her to be
:09:16. > :09:19.proud of me. All of the things I really wanted to do but was too
:09:19. > :09:25.frightened before, I am thinking I want to do it now like the
:09:25. > :09:32.triathlon, a working in the theatre. I had an amazing time. I did not
:09:32. > :09:36.know what to expect. I got great reviews. Yes, brilliant reviews.
:09:36. > :09:40.got a real taste for it but I really missed my music so it was
:09:40. > :09:46.time to make a new record but in the future I would love to do more.
:09:47. > :09:53.What about Spice Girls The Musical? I went to see it We Will Rock You
:09:53. > :09:58.at last night. I have always been a big Queen fan. A brilliant show. It
:09:58. > :10:04.made me get really excited about Spice Girls The Musical. Have you
:10:04. > :10:08.had an involvement in a? We talked about it for a long time. We always
:10:08. > :10:14.thought the Spice Girls music would be perfect for a West End show.
:10:14. > :10:18.When we spent time together doing the reunion tour in 2007, we talked
:10:18. > :10:22.about it. We decided to get proactive and start making some
:10:22. > :10:27.producers. When we got back we started to do and we met Judy
:10:27. > :10:31.Cramer who produced Mamma Mia, the stage show and the movie. We
:10:31. > :10:36.thought she was the perfect lady for the job and then she got
:10:36. > :10:41.Jennifer Saunders on board to write the story. It is a dream team for
:10:41. > :10:46.us, really. We are very excited. When will it be on the stage?
:10:46. > :10:50.are hoping it will be finished for the end of 2012. And back to the
:10:50. > :10:56.rest of the girls, you are all mothers now. Do you still see a lot
:10:56. > :10:59.of each other? We tried to see each other as much as we can. Two of the
:10:59. > :11:02.girls live in America so sometimes it is tricky but I think the
:11:02. > :11:07.children have brought us closer together. We like to share
:11:07. > :11:12.birthdays and spent time together. I'm sure loads of people ask you
:11:12. > :11:17.this but are you reforming for the Olympics? I wish! I would love to
:11:17. > :11:21.do it. I have never been approached so we don't know where the story
:11:21. > :11:25.came from. It has never got through to me, I'm afraid. I'm sure they
:11:25. > :11:30.would love to have year. A but Spice girls than musical is
:11:30. > :11:33.definitely happening. Get your tracksuit ready. -- Spice Girls The
:11:34. > :11:40.Musical. Before Gyles tells us about how one
:11:40. > :11:46.potter became a ceramic millionaire, for the next part of Canal Week...
:11:46. > :11:51.We should really go and visit one. Thank you. It is gorgeous where
:11:51. > :11:56.they are here in Scotland. I am at the Kirkintilloch Canal Festival.
:11:56. > :12:01.There are some boats here in the Firth of Forth and Clyde. Here we
:12:01. > :12:08.have Tommy Lawton who is from the Canal Society. Good evening. Back
:12:08. > :12:15.in the day, the marina was a hub of activity. This was a very busy
:12:15. > :12:20.marina. They built boats here, they launched them and brought coal from
:12:20. > :12:25.the coalfields. It made culture before everybody. This was
:12:25. > :12:33.originally a Weaver's town which turned into an industrial town.
:12:33. > :12:38.did the Canal Society get involved? We had been going for 31 years. We
:12:38. > :12:43.decided we would campaign to have it opened as there was a blockage.
:12:43. > :12:49.We had money from the lottery and the seven councils which were
:12:49. > :12:54.involved and he had the whole seek to see canal reopened. It looks
:12:54. > :13:00.brilliant and it is fantastic for the community. I am not up here
:13:00. > :13:06.alone. Joining me we have The One Show Scotland man, there's Maclean.
:13:06. > :13:10.I have brought the local weather and I have brought the home crowd.
:13:10. > :13:16.It will be a Scotland versus England affair tonight. How would
:13:16. > :13:20.you fancy going head to head along this canal in these -- in those
:13:20. > :13:25.inflatable toilet roll things? would be insanity but I think that
:13:25. > :13:35.is what we will be doing. We tried it earlier and this is how we got
:13:35. > :13:47.
:13:47. > :13:53.Are you supposed to feel sick? I feel a bit queasy.
:13:53. > :13:59.One more time, let's hear it for Scotland! Let's hear it for England.
:13:59. > :14:09.I can feel the Love out there. Before chaos ensues, here is Gyles
:14:09. > :14:10.
:14:11. > :14:16.Wedgwood. The very name has a ring to it. As far back as the late
:14:16. > :14:22.1700s, this Staffordshire made cream where was so renowned,
:14:22. > :14:28.royalty made -- eight their dinner off it. Josiah Wedgwood wanted his
:14:28. > :14:33.crockery to grace the less regal tables as well. Wedgwood's ambition
:14:33. > :14:39.had a very rocky ride. Only the clay from Cornwall gave him the
:14:39. > :14:47.creamy finish you needed. But the journey by plodding horse and
:14:47. > :14:54.Mughal, it was painfully slow. The finished wears often fared even
:14:54. > :15:00.worse on the road to market. Wedgwood's vision was to take his
:15:00. > :15:05.goods on a new, quicker route, by canal. In the mid- 18th century,
:15:05. > :15:08.crockery was produced in small pottery is dotted around the West
:15:08. > :15:13.Midlands. His Cornish china clay had to be shipped north to
:15:13. > :15:17.Liverpool before trundling by road down to Staffordshire. Josiah's
:15:17. > :15:23.solution would help spark the industrial revolution decades later.
:15:23. > :15:28.His plan transformed his injury -- industry and made him rich. Moving
:15:28. > :15:32.his raw materials by water at 30 tonnes a time made it quicker and
:15:32. > :15:36.cheaper and the Potteries could export their goods to the world in
:15:37. > :15:46.one piece with fewer breakages. The competition was literally barged
:15:47. > :15:49.
:15:49. > :15:54.In 1761 England's only canal was the Bridgewater out of Manchester.
:15:55. > :16:02.His proposed canal would link the rivers Trent and Mersey. But a
:16:02. > :16:07.rival navigation company on the nearby river Weaver objected.
:16:07. > :16:11.Wedgwood's new waterway would ruin their trade. They had been in
:16:11. > :16:17.business 30 years, maybe 20,000 tonnes a year and didn't want
:16:17. > :16:24.anybody to take their business away from them. His opponents dreamt up
:16:24. > :16:28.canal routes that by-passed the potteries all together. To Joshua
:16:28. > :16:33.campaigned up and down England bringing landowners and public on
:16:33. > :16:39.side. But before kafbing the second only canal through the country they
:16:39. > :16:47.needed to get it through parliament. In 1765 Charles Darwin's
:16:47. > :16:56.grandfather helped draw up a campaign. Darwin could get a little
:16:56. > :17:02.bit sarcastic with his amendment. This is one typical Darwin-type
:17:02. > :17:06.comment, a very garolous sentence. This draft ends up as this, this is
:17:06. > :17:14.what goes to the Houses of parliament.
:17:14. > :17:20.With his arch rivals still calling the plans miserable and flimsy,
:17:20. > :17:29.Wedgwood nevertheless won the day. It made the statue book in July
:17:29. > :17:38.1766. The Trent and Mersey canal was
:17:38. > :17:43.opened here five years later. He ensured that the canal was routed
:17:43. > :17:48.right past his new factory. And just let everyone know he was truly
:17:48. > :17:57.home and dry, he built this grand house on the other side of the
:17:57. > :18:03.water. When he died in 1795 he was worth a staggering �500,000, �30
:18:03. > :18:07.million in today's money. He pioneered the industrial revolution,
:18:07. > :18:17.mechanised production and put good crockery on the tables of the
:18:17. > :18:21.masses. The Wedgwood name stood alone before the business went into
:18:21. > :18:28.receivership in 2009 and was sold off. Today travellers on the Trent
:18:28. > :18:33.Mersey can be grateful that he finally got his way.
:18:33. > :18:40.A story beautifully told and we are now enjoying a civilised cup of tea
:18:40. > :18:45.from Wedgwood. And we should raise our cups to one of the great men of
:18:45. > :18:48.our country, he pioneered as it were the fight against slavery and
:18:48. > :18:53.he was an industrial reformer, one of the fathers of the industrial
:18:53. > :19:01.revolution. A great man. This is something he invented. What do you
:19:01. > :19:05.think this is? I did say it looked like a giant Kit Kat in the
:19:05. > :19:10.rehearsal. It was invented to measure the temperature in a kiln.
:19:10. > :19:14.Until he invented this there was a character called a kiln man who
:19:14. > :19:17.stood by saying yes, I think it's hot enough to have baked the
:19:17. > :19:26.pottery but sometimes he didn't get it right and the pottery was
:19:26. > :19:30.smashed. This device in which the clay is put, as I am sure you will
:19:30. > :19:35.have discovered in school, what happens to the clay it gets smaller,
:19:35. > :19:40.contracts and you can measure the temp temperature by the size of the
:19:40. > :19:46.pottery going down the clay as it went down here. It's measured in
:19:47. > :19:54.what were known as Wedgwood grades. He invented this and because of
:19:54. > :20:00.this mass production became possible. It changed the world. He
:20:00. > :20:05.gave us creamware, he sent some to Queen Charlotte, she loved it and
:20:05. > :20:13.because the Queen liked it the middle classes began to adopt it.
:20:13. > :20:17.Oh! That is worth some �4,000. The sauce boat �2,000. Let's hope we
:20:17. > :20:24.are insured! He could have touched this as well. This is from the
:20:24. > :20:30.museum. These items could have been touched by him. Are you a fan?
:20:30. > :20:35.beautiful, I am very nervous sitting here. Do you have any
:20:35. > :20:45.Wedgwood in your house. I don't think so. You could afford this.
:20:45. > :20:49.
:20:49. > :20:58.This is made of Jasper ware. This was a new kind - like like
:20:58. > :21:03.porcelain. This is a re-creation of an old vase. The British Museum had
:21:04. > :21:12.one and he made a copy of it that would now retail for �100,000, if
:21:12. > :21:16.you could buy it. In the 1800s the British Museum one was broken they
:21:16. > :21:21.used Wedgwood's model to re-create it. Could I point out Nigel here
:21:21. > :21:25.from the museum, as Giles is waving his arms around he is sweating and
:21:25. > :21:28.diving like a goalkeeper. The men in white coats are over there. One
:21:29. > :21:36.is going to take that lot and the other will take me. Why not.
:21:36. > :21:46.have another collectors item here. For one of my heroines, so look
:21:46. > :21:47.
:21:47. > :21:53.what I have got for you. Wow. own Wedgwood plate. It's proper.
:21:54. > :22:01.Made in... This will cost you �12,000 and this certainly �1.20.
:22:01. > :22:09.We are informed it's worth �16. After the musical it will increase.
:22:09. > :22:19.Brilliant. Thank you, Giles. Now last week we discovered what part
:22:19. > :22:22.
:22:22. > :22:28.spaniels have played in British history. And in our series of films
:22:28. > :22:32.about man's best friend Joe Inglis traces the role of Cruella De
:22:32. > :22:36.Ville's nemesis, the Dalmation. They've played a unique role in
:22:36. > :22:43.British history. No one is certain of the Dalmation's origins, but a
:22:43. > :22:47.popular theory is that they hail from a region of Croatia called
:22:47. > :22:56.Dalmatia and spread across Europe with the travelling Roma. They
:22:56. > :23:02.reached Britain by the 1700s and the breed soon became popular with
:23:02. > :23:05.the aristocracy. Even Queen Victoria was a fan. But it wasn't
:23:05. > :23:09.just their striking looks that made the Dalmation appealing, these dogs
:23:09. > :23:17.were willing to work hard, which was perfect for the needs of
:23:17. > :23:21.Britain's upper classes. The breed was given a unique role,
:23:21. > :23:26.of running alongside the horses and carriages of the rich and powerful.
:23:26. > :23:33.They were called simply carriage dogs. That's fantastic, I have
:23:33. > :23:37.never seen anything like that. Anne Dickens is a member of the society
:23:37. > :23:40.and she's a Dalmation fan. Tell me what was the original purpose of
:23:40. > :23:44.having carriage dogs. Two main reasons really. First of all,
:23:44. > :23:48.they're a status symbol, they're pretty dogs and they decorate the
:23:48. > :23:52.carriage. Secondly, they're good guard dogs. So, they would guard
:23:52. > :23:57.the valuables, carriages were often targeted for money and they would
:23:58. > :24:01.see off the highwaymen. An ancient car alarm. What is it about them
:24:01. > :24:04.that makes them suited to this work? It's a combination really,
:24:04. > :24:09.they have a natural affinity with horses so they love running in a
:24:10. > :24:14.team with you. They have amazing stamina. They can run for 20 miles
:24:14. > :24:18.a day and it's nothing to them. guess that endurance ability comes
:24:18. > :24:24.from some of their particular physical traits. They have
:24:24. > :24:30.fantastically well muscled legs and springy paws which gives them a lot
:24:30. > :24:35.of bounce on the road and the coat means they don't overheat. They
:24:35. > :24:40.have lots of heart and lung room and a nice balanced construction
:24:40. > :24:43.means they can go all day, yes. the 20th century when the motor car
:24:43. > :24:48.replaced the carriage the Dalmation moved into our homes, and their
:24:48. > :24:58.role changed from working dogs to pets.
:24:58. > :25:00.
:25:00. > :25:06.When the novel The a 101 Dalmations, their role in British hearts was
:25:06. > :25:11.cemented. It's inspired three films, and when Disney's 1996 version hit
:25:11. > :25:16.our screens the number of Dalmation puppies being registered shot up by
:25:16. > :25:21.25%. But the energy that made these dogs such good carriage dogs a
:25:21. > :25:30.couple of centuries ago can make them quite a handful for
:25:30. > :25:36.inexperienced dog owners. Chris is a Dalmation enthusiast. Last year
:25:36. > :25:39.1,500 new Dalmation puppies were registered with the Kennel Club.
:25:39. > :25:43.Dalmations make wonderful pets but they need a fair amount of exercise
:25:43. > :25:46.and they really like to be around you. They don't like to be left
:25:46. > :25:51.alone for any length of time. Can be demanding really. Is there a
:25:51. > :25:55.problem with people not being able to cope? Yes, often because they're
:25:55. > :25:59.very much a favourite with children, obviously. Everybody loves the
:25:59. > :26:05.spotty dog. People often buy them without really researching what
:26:05. > :26:09.they need. We do get a few coming to the welfare, unfortunately.
:26:09. > :26:14.welfare charities around the UK get at least 300 Dalmations through
:26:14. > :26:18.their doors each year. Thankfully most of these are rehomed.
:26:18. > :26:26.Britain's love affair with Dalmations has stayed strong since
:26:26. > :26:34.they reached our shores hundreds of years ago. 50 years on from 101
:26:34. > :26:39.Dalmations we are still spotty about these dogs.
:26:39. > :26:49.That was more under control, wasn't I love that line at the end. These
:26:49. > :26:54.are very well behaved. This is Hector and UnA. Not sure if my one
:26:54. > :26:57.is well controlled. You are doing well there, Melanie. These are only
:26:57. > :27:02.seven weeks old. I have a couple of Dalmation facts. When they're born,
:27:02. > :27:06.they're born completely spotless. Pure white. They don't develop
:27:06. > :27:10.their spots until they're about two weeks old. They have to have a
:27:10. > :27:19.hearing test as well. You are being brave because you are allergic to
:27:19. > :27:24.dogs. I have my best clothes on as well! I am allergic to most animals.
:27:24. > :27:29.I love animals. It's a bit of a case. Do you remember on the show
:27:29. > :27:34.in 2007 we gave you something less cute to hold then. Yes, last time I
:27:34. > :27:40.was here I had a tarantula on my hand, which was fine. Here we go. A
:27:40. > :27:44.little bit of footage of that. You are being brave. I was going to
:27:44. > :27:50.wear that Clarence House again today -- wear that blouse again
:27:50. > :27:55.today, that would have been embarrassing! 5th September the
:27:55. > :28:02.album is out, so it's an exciting time. Yeah, single and album. It's
:28:02. > :28:12.the first in four years. Don't worry about Una, the owner is over
:28:12. > :28:12.
:28:12. > :28:21.there. I will put her down. Have you played the albums of the other
:28:21. > :28:25.Spice Girls? Yeah, Emma loves it, she's been playing bits on Heart.
:28:25. > :28:34.It's going great. It's getting well received at radio. Before tonight
:28:34. > :28:39.were you aware it was Canal Week on The One Show? I am sad to say I
:28:39. > :28:43.wasn't. Have you thought about a boating holiday. I have had friends
:28:43. > :28:49.that have done it and had a fantastic time. Here we go, it's
:28:49. > :28:56.time to return to Kirkintilloch Canal Festival for our One Show
:28:56. > :29:01.race. To find out who is water borne and who is water forlorn.
:29:01. > :29:11.What are the tactics for the race? I am going to keep going and I have
:29:11. > :29:21.a little pin in my pocket, if he comes near me I will detphraet him
:29:21. > :29:23.
:29:23. > :29:27.-- deflate him. We have some stats here. Des's hero