:00:24. > :00:27.Good evening. When we were given the chance to record the One Show
:00:27. > :00:32.backstage at the rehearsals with the Rolling Stones, how could we
:00:32. > :00:35.turn it down? Exactly. Charlie is practising the drums behind that
:00:35. > :00:41.wall. Mick and Ronnie are downstairs, chilling out, and
:00:41. > :00:50.sitting opposite us, Mr Keith Richards. It is only Keith
:00:50. > :00:56.Richards! How are you? Very well. Have you ever had a letter about
:00:56. > :01:02.the knighthood? They have not mentioned it lately. Would you say
:01:02. > :01:07.yes? I wouldn't contemplate it, know. Plain and simple, what has it
:01:07. > :01:13.been like being in the Rolling Stones for 50 years? It feels like
:01:13. > :01:18.100. Joking aside, it is quite amazing. You do not think about
:01:18. > :01:22.these years. I think at the beginning of this year, we were
:01:22. > :01:27.starting to get some fans saying, what are you going to do? We
:01:27. > :01:31.finally had a meeting and we said, what are we going to do? We have to
:01:31. > :01:35.do something. And it built up from people out there that actually made
:01:35. > :01:44.this happen. We hear a lot about these meetings. Is it in a house,
:01:44. > :01:51.on a plane? We meet in meeting rooms. And it is also ludicrously
:01:51. > :01:57.formal. A table, with a pen and a pad. And a couple of lawyers. And
:01:57. > :02:02.then it usually degenerates into a farce. And then you say yes.
:02:02. > :02:08.signed off and that is that. It is amazing you can remember any of
:02:08. > :02:12.this. Did you not top a poll as the next celebrity most likely to die?
:02:12. > :02:18.I was at the top of the charts longer than most people on that
:02:18. > :02:22.category. But I dropped off the perch a long time ago. You are
:02:22. > :02:29.looking all right. There are times when I wake up in the morning and I
:02:29. > :02:33.do not believe I have woken up. What was that period like? Kind of
:02:33. > :02:41.hazy. I have a good memory, but there is that spot that is a bit
:02:41. > :02:47.hazy. But in actual fact, I functioned perfectly well. I was
:02:47. > :02:54.being harassed with my own demons and then the cops. So it was
:02:54. > :02:59.turmoil, really, but I got used to it. Having the Beatles there at the
:02:59. > :03:03.same time, did that make you the band that you are? There was no
:03:03. > :03:08.competition. But in the greater world, they were the Fab Four. That
:03:08. > :03:16.is wearing the white hat. The only other place to go is to wear the
:03:16. > :03:22.black cat. -- the black hat. At the same time, we were pretty natural.
:03:22. > :03:25.We did not showbiz ourselves up. pivotal point was when you
:03:25. > :03:31.scampered off to France together, and here is what you had to say
:03:31. > :03:41.about it. I felt a lifting of the weight that I did not realise was
:03:41. > :03:45.on me. 9-10 at night, until seven or eight in the morning. The idea
:03:45. > :03:55.of playing a note before the sun went down was ludicrous. It was
:03:55. > :03:55.
:03:56. > :04:01.like Dracula. We were actually basically forced, economically, out
:04:01. > :04:05.of the country. Because I think they had given up trying to put us
:04:05. > :04:10.in jail. It just wasn't working. They scratched their heads. They
:04:10. > :04:16.didn't like us. The idea was to split us up, which they did, but at
:04:16. > :04:20.the same time they kept us together. They just learned how to work on a
:04:20. > :04:25.global scale, I guess. The Rolling Stones are obviously big business,
:04:25. > :04:32.big money. If you had to send a member of the band out to bat for
:04:32. > :04:37.you, negotiating, who would you send out? Definitely Mick, but with
:04:37. > :04:43.Charlie in reserve. The quiet assassin. Let's talk about Ronnie
:04:43. > :04:46.Wood, your other arm. Do you agree that had he not joined when he did,
:04:46. > :04:51.the Rolling Stones would never have got to be the supergroup that they
:04:51. > :04:58.were in the 1980s? Definitely, without Ronnie Wood we would not
:04:58. > :05:03.have had the cohesion to stick together. He came along just at the
:05:03. > :05:09.right time. With a guy like that around, you have to hang around,
:05:09. > :05:13.because he is so damn funny. He is a lovely man, isn't he? There is a
:05:13. > :05:20.great feeling in the band right now. Kind of weird. You keep waiting for
:05:21. > :05:26.the bubble to burst. Keith Richards, everyone! Three more to come.
:05:26. > :05:31.ask for your stories about you and the Stones, here is what you said.
:05:31. > :05:38.My stories about Mick. I am the number one fan of the Stones, and
:05:38. > :05:44.Mick, I still think you are tasty. In 1963 a young girl in Surrey was
:05:44. > :05:51.starting a fan club. I got my membership card back, and I was
:05:51. > :05:56.delighted to see her was number one. I got the opportunity to meet them.
:05:56. > :06:05.My biggest thrill was kissing Mick Jagger. I did not wash my lips for
:06:05. > :06:09.weeks after that! My story is about Keith in the 1970s. On one bank
:06:09. > :06:19.holiday, I went to West Wittering, where he has a home, to get a copy
:06:19. > :06:23.of a biography signed. Keith was there. That was the good news. The
:06:23. > :06:30.bad news was that he had a rifle with him and a bottle of Jack
:06:30. > :06:34.Daniels. An interesting combination. I am looking down the barrel with
:06:34. > :06:39.my hands in the air, clutching my book. There cannot be many people
:06:39. > :06:49.who could point a gun at you and you still end up loving them. Keith
:06:49. > :06:50.
:06:50. > :06:54.Richards is a diamond geezer. story is about Ronnie Wood. We was
:06:54. > :07:01.at school together. He was a brilliant artist at school. My
:07:01. > :07:06.husband bought me this beautiful painting. It is a painting of Pete
:07:06. > :07:10.Townshend and Keith Moon of the Hu, that Ronnie did. I never thought I
:07:10. > :07:17.would get one of your drawing is. That is my pride and joy, and I
:07:17. > :07:27.love it. My story is about Charlie Watts, who I first met when I
:07:27. > :07:32.worked at WH Smith in 1965-66. He came in one morning, as he always
:07:32. > :07:36.did, to get his papers. He gave me an envelope which I assumed was a
:07:36. > :07:42.cheque for his account. When I opened it, there were two tickets
:07:42. > :07:46.inside for Wembley. The New Musical Express pop poll Winners Concert.
:07:46. > :07:50.What a bill. I was very fortunate to be there and I want to take this
:07:50. > :07:57.opportunity, Charlie, to thank you for the wonderful memories that
:07:57. > :08:05.that show gave me. Hear hears, the hero of that film,
:08:05. > :08:09.Mr Charlie Watts. -- here he is. heard about the tickets being given
:08:09. > :08:13.away free gig when it was here, when it was called the Empire Pool.
:08:13. > :08:19.You have hired out Wembley Arena, just to rehearse. That is a nice
:08:19. > :08:24.thing to be able to do. It is very extravagant. In fact, this was our
:08:24. > :08:31.catering when we played at the stadium, so we have gone down in
:08:31. > :08:36.scale. The whole thing? Yes. When I was a boy, I used to come here ice
:08:36. > :08:41.skating. I did not ice skate, but I watched the others, and ice hockey.
:08:41. > :08:47.So I know this part of the world since I was five. We have a picture
:08:47. > :08:52.of you when you were quite young. Have you seen this before? No. I
:08:52. > :09:01.drew that on the front. That was supposed to be Buddy Rich. That was
:09:01. > :09:06.the first drum kit my dad bought me. How old were you? 12. That was
:09:06. > :09:11.taken by Nick Rayner, who played at your first public appearance.
:09:11. > :09:17.remember Nick Rayner. He lived four doors away from me. When you are
:09:17. > :09:20.putting live dates back together, is in a phone call to you that is
:09:21. > :09:25.the dangerous one? We are only doing five shows up to Christmas,
:09:25. > :09:29.but to do those, you have to rehearse as much as you would to do
:09:29. > :09:34.150 to get to the same... If you do not play a lot, which we do not,
:09:34. > :09:40.your hands of to get used to playing. This seems a lot of effort
:09:40. > :09:46.for five shows. It is a lot of effort. Bloody hard work, actually.
:09:46. > :09:51.Are there any plans past these five shows? My thing is, if we are
:09:51. > :09:55.standing at Christmas, we will see. This is the 50 thing. I always said
:09:55. > :10:02.to Mick that we are known for playing, so we should play
:10:02. > :10:09.something. And it has got up to five now. By Christmas, who knows
:10:09. > :10:16.what we decide? What do you do when you go off? Nothing. But I never do
:10:16. > :10:21.anything. So I don't know. A wife always says, you don't do anything.
:10:21. > :10:27.And I don't, actually. When I say, I'm leaving, Keith says, what are
:10:27. > :10:33.you going to do? I think, what am I going to do? So you are caught,
:10:33. > :10:41.really. Do you think you are miscast in the Rolling Stones?
:10:41. > :10:45.should have been a singer? perhaps you should have been in
:10:45. > :10:50.another banned altogether. I have never fallen into celebrity rock
:10:50. > :10:58.star thing. I have always looked at other people who lie in that world
:10:58. > :11:03.with much more than rock'n'roll style. Charlie Watts, everyone.
:11:03. > :11:09.is not just on stage the people raise hell. Here is Ruth Goodman
:11:09. > :11:15.remembering an F1 driver that took rock'n'roll to the racetrack.
:11:15. > :11:23.right! In this house in Sutton lived a
:11:23. > :11:29.child who did just that, driving, and fast. And James Hunt became
:11:29. > :11:33.just as famous for the playboy life he led in the other fast lane.
:11:33. > :11:39.James Hunt had privilege written all over him. A and a life mapped
:11:39. > :11:44.out. After A-levels, medical school was supposed to lead to a medical
:11:44. > :11:48.career. But the wilful teenager was having none of it. He ditched the
:11:48. > :11:54.Korea plans his parents had, after a trip to Silverstone on his 18th
:11:55. > :12:00.birthday. The visit saw him change track, with dreams of becoming a
:12:00. > :12:05.racing driver. The road outside would be his Test circuit. Quiet,
:12:05. > :12:11.leafy Sutton had never seen anything like it. This neighbour
:12:11. > :12:15.remembers it well. He used to drive up and down this road like a maniac.
:12:15. > :12:21.I don't know what speed he used to do, but it was quite something. We
:12:21. > :12:28.used to come out and say, James is off again. He made it to Formula
:12:28. > :12:32.Three, where they nicknamed him Hunt the shunt. A wealthy sponsor
:12:32. > :12:38.would take him to Formula One. What he lacked in motor racing knowledge,
:12:38. > :12:47.he made up for with plenty of dosh. Murray Walker remembers the
:12:47. > :12:50.excitement picks side. -- in the pits. We had never been and -- seen
:12:50. > :12:54.anything like it. He would turn up with a picnic in the back and
:12:54. > :12:59.champagne for everybody, and the flamboyant James Hunt. They were
:12:59. > :13:05.totally different from anything we had ever seen in Formula One.
:13:05. > :13:10.Andrew James knew how to party. had two daughters, and they went
:13:10. > :13:15.out with him. I don't know what went on. I don't think I want to
:13:15. > :13:22.know what went on. But my elder daughter said to me, mummy, James
:13:22. > :13:27.should never get married. Anywhere he was, there was sure to be a
:13:27. > :13:33.group of keen to please female fans. On the track, James was pleasing
:13:33. > :13:41.the crowds, and his sponsors, too. In 1974, he won his first Formula
:13:41. > :13:45.One race. Really tremendous! years later, he was crowned world
:13:45. > :13:49.champion. I had always wanted to be a winner in life, as it were, and I
:13:49. > :13:52.could never have called myself a winner if I did not win the World
:13:52. > :13:57.Championship, because that was what I set out to do. When you achieve
:13:57. > :14:02.what you set out to do, it is a good feeling. He had got his dream
:14:02. > :14:06.but it soon became the stuff of his nightmares. He physically threw up
:14:06. > :14:10.before every race, before he got in the car. It was a combination of
:14:10. > :14:16.him losing interest and being all too aware of the danger Formula One
:14:16. > :14:22.represented at that time. James retired from Formula One in 1979
:14:22. > :14:27.after just five years. He got a job commentating at the BBC, but he was
:14:27. > :14:31.never one to conform. Even royalty could not get him into a suit. He
:14:31. > :14:40.became a millionaire, but lost most of it on the Stock Exchange in just
:14:40. > :14:44.over a decade. At 45, his life was cut short by a massive heart attack.
:14:44. > :14:51.If ever any body not only burns the candle at both ends, but in the
:14:51. > :14:57.middle as well, it was James Hunt. In which case, James had packed
:14:57. > :15:02.more into 45 years than I will ever pack into 90. There is little here
:15:02. > :15:12.to honour their world racing car champion. So here is a plaque to
:15:12. > :15:12.
:15:12. > :15:19.And James Hunt there, a rock-and- roll racer, and now a rock and
:15:19. > :15:25.roller, Ronnie Wood. Where we would like to start his you getting a job
:15:25. > :15:31.in the Rolling Stones, maybe the best of a guitarist could wish for?
:15:31. > :15:36.Yes, not bad. It's all right. I have feathered and my nest. Jeff
:15:36. > :15:44.Beck said he was in the Rolling Stones for a number, and I said,
:15:44. > :15:47.some might! And that Bill Weimann said, so my! To do realise how much
:15:47. > :15:53.The Rolling Stones needed to as a guitarist, but also to be a
:15:53. > :16:00.galvanising figure. You may have saved the Rolling Stones. Yes,
:16:00. > :16:04.without doubt, on a few occasions. It was a fragile ship when I joined.
:16:04. > :16:12.They had been through many ups and downs and there was a bit of a grey
:16:12. > :16:17.cloud. At the beginning, you were just an employer -- employee on a
:16:17. > :16:22.salary, so how long did it take to feel like a fully-fledged member?
:16:22. > :16:29.After an apprenticeship of 17 years, which I might add, to you
:16:29. > :16:35.struggling musicians, went by it like that. Although it was not
:16:35. > :16:40.labelled an apprenticeship, I felt out of respect that I would see p
:16:40. > :16:49.in by osmosis into the Rolling Stones world -- seep in. You refer
:16:49. > :16:53.to them as them, not we. I still look at it from afar. It is very
:16:53. > :16:59.surreal for me to be in this unit that used to run home -- I used to
:16:59. > :17:04.run home and watch on the television. Is it true that at a
:17:04. > :17:09.party at Mick Jagger was in the middle, and Mick Taylor was there?
:17:09. > :17:16.Yes, he leaned across and said he was leaving the group, and I leant
:17:16. > :17:21.across, and I think he said he was leaving the group. And he got up
:17:21. > :17:28.and walked out, and Mick Jagger said, what am I going to do? Have
:17:28. > :17:32.patience! How soon after that way you in the studio? A year. How did
:17:32. > :17:37.you feel doing the first gig with them? Even though I knew the music
:17:37. > :17:43.I had never played the songs. At one point Keith Richards and I
:17:43. > :17:49.hardly slept and we went through the songs. All of his songs go
:17:49. > :17:59.through my head, and then on 1st June, in that on ruche, 1975, that
:17:59. > :18:07.was my opening gig -- baton Rouge. Throw Tami! Whatever you've got. --
:18:07. > :18:17.throw it at me. In at the deep end, but it was great. You have a couple
:18:17. > :18:31.
:18:31. > :18:41.of new songs on the album, and you # I had a dream last night I was
:18:41. > :18:42.
:18:42. > :18:52.piloting a plane. # What's it all about? #Set me in the dirt, feel it
:18:52. > :18:56.
:18:56. > :19:00.OK, Mick Jagger still to come, and some people may have thought the
:19:00. > :19:06.Rolling Stones were the harbingers of doom, but two sailors, it was
:19:06. > :19:09.another creature, the storm petrel. Long before the shipping forecast
:19:09. > :19:16.fishermen at sea warned them -- relied on a small bird to warn them
:19:16. > :19:20.of impending storms. The aptly- named bird spends most of its time
:19:20. > :19:25.where to see, but is pushed towards land during extreme bad weather. As
:19:25. > :19:29.a result, sailors saw them as harbinger of -- harbingers of doom,
:19:29. > :19:36.but they are called storm petrel because they appear to walk on
:19:36. > :19:40.water, but as Peter was said to do with Jesus. Even seabirds have to
:19:40. > :19:46.come to land to breed at some point. This gives the naturalist a small
:19:46. > :19:51.window to study a bird that lives out on the open ocean. I am on the
:19:51. > :19:55.Isles of Scilly with Jon Brown, who spent 30 years checking on the
:19:55. > :20:03.population of the storm petrels. Of all the birds you could study, why
:20:03. > :20:07.them? It is a magical bird. It lies miles be on the horizon of any head
:20:07. > :20:13.land and it feeds out there and only comes to Land of an evening,
:20:13. > :20:19.or a dark night. At nesting time they tend to be closer to shore,
:20:19. > :20:24.which is why we are out hoping to catch a glimpse of them on the wing.
:20:24. > :20:33.This consists of well-rotted macro. Storm petrel stock birds have at an
:20:33. > :20:37.acute sense of smell. As soon as we put the charm of a man - the charm
:20:37. > :20:43.and out, there Roberts coming like gannets. And then suddenly, one of
:20:43. > :20:46.the smallest seabirds, about the size of a sparrow, skins into view.
:20:46. > :20:52.Quite often it is choppy on the boat, and the birds keep their
:20:52. > :20:55.distance. Luckily though, there is a chance to get closer. For just
:20:55. > :20:59.three or four days a year, John catches the birds to check on the
:20:59. > :21:06.health of the population and he does it as -- at night as they go
:21:06. > :21:13.back to their nests. He needs to trick them to lure them in. That is
:21:13. > :21:19.a bizarre call of nature. Why are they calling? They won the other
:21:19. > :21:25.birds into the colony -- want the other birds. You can call them up
:21:25. > :21:30.from about two or three miles by using the speakers. Storm petrels
:21:30. > :21:37.only produce one chick per year, which has been left alone while the
:21:37. > :21:42.parents feed it out at sea, returning with food when it is dark.
:21:42. > :21:48.It is 10:30pm and we have caught our first storm petrel in the net.
:21:48. > :21:55.Look at that. Then they are tiny. And you can see some of the
:21:55. > :22:00.features, the beautiful white rump. The end of the winger, you can see
:22:00. > :22:04.the white stripe. These tiny birds have been known to live for over 30
:22:04. > :22:08.years. Compared with most garden birds that live for less than a
:22:08. > :22:12.decade. They are incredibly adapted to living life at sea with nostrils
:22:12. > :22:18.that can extract salt from the water and very special feed. The
:22:18. > :22:25.most amazing thing is the feet. Astonishing that something that
:22:26. > :22:29.small can survive out at sea. Marginally larger than a house
:22:30. > :22:39.sparrow, almost impossible to see in the wild. What a stunning,
:22:40. > :22:44.
:22:44. > :22:50.And what would be your favourite spot in the UK? The Isles of Scilly
:22:50. > :22:57.look lovely. You can't get much further west than that. I've never
:22:57. > :23:02.been there. It looks great. Where else can I go? You like Wales?
:23:02. > :23:08.Our you fit for the big gig? You never feel really fit, it's not the
:23:08. > :23:12.Olympic Games. Value-for-money is required like never before. People
:23:12. > :23:18.would be bored to death. It would need to be so long. When you get
:23:18. > :23:23.together and start rehearsing for a big tour, like now, do you think
:23:24. > :23:28.you wonder what cracks will appear? If you are a professional, you pay
:23:28. > :23:36.back over them. But in terms of you doing things that you were doing
:23:36. > :23:42.aged 19. Now I'm not. I don't do those things any more! You are
:23:42. > :23:48.still fronting a band. Don't make me do the splits any more. Do you
:23:48. > :23:52.worry about it will do you think it will be great? You can't do things
:23:52. > :23:59.like when you were 19th when you were my age. 50 years does give the
:23:59. > :24:03.lie. What I want to do is make the show as energetic as I can. We have
:24:03. > :24:09.been watching a documentary, and one of the stand-out scenes was
:24:09. > :24:15.when you were being driven home from jail after spending a night
:24:15. > :24:25.after a three-month sentence, and you're in a Bentley. How did that
:24:25. > :24:25.
:24:25. > :24:30.feel for that morning? Being driven home from prison in a Bentley.
:24:30. > :24:39.that was my car. You talked about getting no satisfaction and you
:24:39. > :24:45.talk about dissatisfaction. Let's It's very easy if I feel
:24:45. > :24:51.dissatisfied with something, I can write about it. Why are your
:24:51. > :24:59.generation dissatisfied? Be as most young people are dissatisfied.
:24:59. > :25:04.with? With that the generation they think is running their life. What
:25:04. > :25:11.are you are dissatisfied with? generation that runs our lives.
:25:11. > :25:15.you ever see yourself as a political figure? Know. I was never
:25:15. > :25:20.keen on joining a political party. When I was at college I was at a
:25:20. > :25:26.very left-wing College, and I never felt the joining of it. I like
:25:26. > :25:31.football and I support Arsenal, but I'm not a rabid supporter. I am not
:25:31. > :25:34.a staff wear. You say in that book and the documentary but there was a
:25:34. > :25:39.time when a lot of people hated due, but then everybody loved you, and
:25:39. > :25:44.it's sort have stayed that way. And it happened before you turned 40.
:25:44. > :25:49.Was this the beginning of you been the establishment? He which did you
:25:49. > :25:55.prefer, being the hero or anti- hero? In a funny way we didn't
:25:55. > :26:01.really have a choice. OK, I will be an anti- hero, now I won't be. I
:26:01. > :26:10.had no idea that our kind of slight scruffiness would turn into this
:26:10. > :26:16.anti-heroic Act. In some ways we were swept along with the tide of,
:26:16. > :26:20.but we helped ourselves to propel ourselves along. You have got to 50
:26:20. > :26:26.years, but looking back, which decade of the Rolling Stones would
:26:27. > :26:32.you keep? All of them. It is hard to choose. You have to pick one,
:26:32. > :26:37.it's a quick show. Do I get a prize? The 60s was hilariously
:26:37. > :26:44.funny. A complete mess, but the seventies was also very hedonistic
:26:44. > :26:50.and lovely. Got some really good close. I've still got a lot of them.
:26:50. > :26:54.Deduce style yourself? Yes, I went to shops and by the maddest things.
:26:54. > :26:59.Later in the 70s I used to get designers involved making weird
:26:59. > :27:04.things. You know the chaos and conflict that has existed in the
:27:04. > :27:08.band, if he ran smoothly, you would get bored, I suppose? A at the
:27:08. > :27:15.beginning of the Korea you're always together all the time. Then
:27:15. > :27:20.after a while, you don't want to be together any more. How bad did the
:27:20. > :27:26.get? Awful, awful. There are a lot of groups a lot worse than this
:27:26. > :27:32.band. You hear the stories and you wonder how it was that bad. There
:27:32. > :27:37.are so many. All of these bands hate each other. It's unbelievable.
:27:37. > :27:42.It's far worse than us. A lot of people say that Keith is the one
:27:42. > :27:47.that forces you to go off -- forces you back to work and go on tour. A
:27:47. > :27:53.That's funny, where did you hear that? That's not right. The easy
:27:53. > :28:00.your decision? I think, to be kind, it is a kind of group decision.
:28:00. > :28:06.You'll have to want to do it to some extent. I always thought that
:28:06. > :28:10.the 50th anniversary was a good time to say, OK, we want to do
:28:10. > :28:16.something. Does everybody want to do something? And what would that
:28:16. > :28:22.be? I suggest we just limit ourselves and don't take on 100
:28:22. > :28:28.cities on a tour, we do something small and see how that goes.
:28:28. > :28:33.what about the 60th anniversary then? Well, the Queen has managed
:28:33. > :28:38.it. She had a good party. She did have a very good year and she has
:28:38. > :28:44.stood row very long time, God bless her. If you want me to stand there