0:00:20 > 0:00:22Hello and welcome to programme with Matt Baker.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24And Alex Jones.
0:00:24 > 0:00:28An our wonderful One Show viewers are helping each other tonight...
0:00:28 > 0:00:31Indeed - traders in a Cornish port are showing their opposite numbers
0:00:31 > 0:00:34from Wales how to drive single use plastic out of town.
0:00:34 > 0:00:37The Newnes family from Essex will tell us how watching the show
0:00:37 > 0:00:40led them to take a decision that has saved the lives of no
0:00:40 > 0:00:43led them to take a decision that has saved the lives of five people.
0:00:43 > 0:00:45Our guests all have their causes too.
0:00:45 > 0:00:48Proving his passion for our planet - one wildlife programme at a time -
0:00:48 > 0:00:49it's Chris Packham.
0:00:49 > 0:00:50APPLAUSE
0:00:50 > 0:00:53Cleaning up the North East of England, one thug at a time -
0:00:53 > 0:00:55it's Brenda Blethyn!
0:00:55 > 0:00:58APPLAUSE
0:00:58 > 0:01:01And improving our taste in music - one slow jam at a time -
0:01:01 > 0:01:02it's Trevor Nelson!
0:01:02 > 0:01:07APPLAUSE
0:01:07 > 0:01:11Welcome, welcome to you all. Let's pick up on that thought.
0:01:11 > 0:01:17Single use plastics. As far as plastics in the house are concerned,
0:01:17 > 0:01:22let's start with you, Trevor. As the recent news made you reassess your
0:01:22 > 0:01:25situation?I cannot stand plastics even though we have to use them.
0:01:25 > 0:01:34But, yes, of course it does. I live by the M25 now and I hate seeing
0:01:34 > 0:01:39plastic amongst foliage, greenery. It's a bit more rural. I go to the
0:01:39 > 0:01:42Caribbean every year and nothing irks me more than being on a
0:01:42 > 0:01:45beautiful hill, and there is plastic up there, and I come back two years
0:01:45 > 0:01:52later and it is still there. It is just awful.A lot of it is
0:01:52 > 0:01:55unnecessary, isn't it? Despite the fact you need a crypt on degree
0:01:55 > 0:02:02sometimes to get into it. After you have opened and eaten whatever it is
0:02:02 > 0:02:08it is like a weak's work disposing of it appropriately.A particular
0:02:08 > 0:02:13kind of plastic really rattled Allen's cage. He came into the
0:02:13 > 0:02:22meeting...Plastics through the post! -- really rattled Matt's case.
0:02:22 > 0:02:28Why are you delivering this to my house?And recently the RSPB were
0:02:28 > 0:02:32called out because their members' magazine arrives in a non-recyclable
0:02:32 > 0:02:37plastic bag. Well, it can be recycled under certain situations
0:02:37 > 0:02:40but not with your typical plastic so they are in the process of
0:02:40 > 0:02:44addressing that. But you're right. These bursts of interest get us of
0:02:44 > 0:02:50thinking about it. I was watching TV and there is a lady now who is
0:02:50 > 0:02:53attempting to purge the new Forest Park of plastic drinking straws and
0:02:53 > 0:02:58that would not have happened without us or talking about plastic at this
0:02:58 > 0:03:06point in time.Claims are changing.
0:03:06 > 0:03:07--Times are changing.
0:03:07 > 0:03:09Lots to get through tonight - and we've got someone
0:03:09 > 0:03:10new to introduce you to too...
0:03:10 > 0:03:13Described by Penn and Teller as "the perfect magician," we'll be
0:03:13 > 0:03:15meeting Mahdi Gilbert - an expert in sleight
0:03:15 > 0:03:18of hand card tricks - despite being born with no hands.
0:03:18 > 0:03:19That is incredible. So many tricks.
0:03:19 > 0:03:22As we heard earlier this week, the UK's ability to withstand attack
0:03:22 > 0:03:25and respond to threats is "being eroded" by a lack of investment -
0:03:25 > 0:03:29according to the head of the Army.
0:03:29 > 0:03:32But despite this budget black hole, a new recruitment
0:03:32 > 0:03:34drive is under way - hoping to attract candidates
0:03:34 > 0:03:35from different backgrounds.
0:03:35 > 0:03:37With new adverts which haven't gone down well with everyone,
0:03:37 > 0:03:42as JJ Chalmers can tell us...
0:03:42 > 0:03:46It was this advert that first attracted the Royal Marines.
0:03:46 > 0:03:55The tag line 99.99% need not apply hooked me on and at age 17 I joined
0:03:55 > 0:03:59up. But five years later a bomb blast in Afghanistan put an end to
0:03:59 > 0:04:04the job that I loved. How can the military attract new
0:04:04 > 0:04:07recruits while staying true to the reality of what they are signing up
0:04:07 > 0:04:12to? Thousands of full and part-time jobs
0:04:12 > 0:04:17available now. There's more than one way to be the best.The army's
0:04:17 > 0:04:21latest campaign focusing on the longing goes beneath its tough
0:04:21 > 0:04:24exterior to persuade us that the Armed Forces is not such a brutal
0:04:24 > 0:04:31place. Tackling stigmas such as being gay, emotion, and religions.
0:04:31 > 0:04:35In both TV and online adverts this has caused controversy, with some
0:04:35 > 0:04:38suggesting they don't appeal to those who want to be soldiers and
0:04:38 > 0:04:46fight. Keen to voice his criticism was retired colonel Martin Kemp.It
0:04:46 > 0:04:49is clearly trying to appeal to a series of minorities who may or may
0:04:49 > 0:04:53not be interested in joining the forces, and by doing that it is
0:04:53 > 0:04:55almost neglecting the main group of people who are interested in
0:04:55 > 0:04:59joining. The Army spoke of campaigns on
0:04:59 > 0:05:03reaching out to the broader community, and the TV adverts are
0:05:03 > 0:05:06all based on authentic stories from serving soldiers.
0:05:06 > 0:05:10So what do these military veterans think of the new adverts and the
0:05:10 > 0:05:18Army's previous attempts to recruit new soldiers?
0:05:18 > 0:05:23When you started, get it together. Now, that 12 football doesn't seem
0:05:23 > 0:05:2712 football any more.It is very simple, what basic training was
0:05:27 > 0:05:32late, however it looks after the demographic, straight, white,
0:05:32 > 0:05:36northern mail.We saw him shooting his rocket launcher and he said it
0:05:36 > 0:05:40was rather exciting.Well, it is exciting. I joined the infantry to
0:05:40 > 0:05:44go and fight.I don't think you should promote it as being exciting
0:05:44 > 0:05:51to kill somebody because I know a lot of
0:05:52 > 0:05:54lot of people who make a great career in the forces would perhaps
0:05:54 > 0:05:57be turned off by that.In the 90s it was all about the glamour, the
0:05:57 > 0:06:04soldier called Frank.Joined the army then.What
0:06:04 > 0:06:11army then.What for?The early! -- there he is, Frank!
0:06:11 > 0:06:17LAUGHTER Someone's got to do it.To be frank,
0:06:17 > 0:06:22joined the Army.Did anybody serve with Frank?That was nothing like my
0:06:22 > 0:06:30Army career.That is complete false advertising.The thing that
0:06:30 > 0:06:35definitelydoesn't show is the board. Sitting there, absolutely
0:06:35 > 0:06:38freezing cold, and you would rather be anywhere else, and Frank has been
0:06:38 > 0:06:42the topic of many conversations.In recent years the theme was
0:06:42 > 0:06:49developing new skills.Leadership, you know, my ability to step back,
0:06:49 > 0:06:52think about something for a second then have the confidence to say,
0:06:52 > 0:06:57right, this is what we're going to do.Bringing us up to 2018, what do
0:06:57 > 0:07:03they think of the Army's current campaign?
0:07:05 > 0:07:07campaign?It is political correctness gone mad.I don't need
0:07:07 > 0:07:15to see a cartoon of two men holding hands. Just put an advert in saying,
0:07:15 > 0:07:20joined the army. Everyone belongs. The single these things out. It is
0:07:20 > 0:07:24offensive.Men at work often spoke over me and I felt I didn't have a
0:07:24 > 0:07:33voice.The main audience here or white,
0:07:33 > 0:07:35white, heterosexual males, largely from northern towns where
0:07:35 > 0:07:38unemployment is rife and there is no mention of these people in any of
0:07:38 > 0:07:43these adverts.I think the concept is quite good.From what I have seen
0:07:43 > 0:07:47and heard today, it is tricky getting the delicate balance between
0:07:47 > 0:07:49highlighting some of the more adventurous parts of the job with
0:07:49 > 0:07:53showing some of the difficult things the military has to do with. So The
0:07:53 > 0:07:58One Show past me with creating my own simple advert, starring yours
0:07:58 > 0:08:07truly. So here it is... The Army needs you, but do you need the Army?
0:08:07 > 0:08:11You can join an exclusive club for a life. You can travel the world with
0:08:11 > 0:08:16your best mate and gain a huge sense of achievement. It is exciting, but
0:08:16 > 0:08:26nobody mention the war... Or the board.Eh, can you hurry up and
0:08:26 > 0:08:30wait, lads?Yes, you will learn a lot. It is a career but it is also a
0:08:30 > 0:08:38way of life. Attention! Whatever happens, it will shape you forever.
0:08:38 > 0:08:40With us now is Colonel Simon Stockley, the Army's assistant
0:08:40 > 0:08:46director for recruiting.
0:08:46 > 0:08:52Welcome, Simon.Thank you for inviting me.Well, we saw JJ's
0:08:52 > 0:08:56advert there, which undoubtedly leaves an impact. What did you think
0:08:56 > 0:09:01of his version of the advert, and did you think... I mean, it tells
0:09:01 > 0:09:04the truth, doesn't it? Gives some upsides at the beginning but we are
0:09:04 > 0:09:10left with a vivid image at the end there.A striking image, and JJ has
0:09:10 > 0:09:14made sacrifices. But I think in a year that is the 100th anniversary
0:09:14 > 0:09:18of the First World War we never undersell the fact that the Army
0:09:18 > 0:09:25exists to protect the nation both at home and overseas. The
0:09:27 > 0:09:30home and overseas. The challenge we are facing is a lot of young men and
0:09:30 > 0:09:32women today don't think joining the Army is an attainable proposition
0:09:32 > 0:09:35for them, so the new campaign is making it clear to them that they
0:09:35 > 0:09:37don't need to be Army ready from the start. We will physically and
0:09:37 > 0:09:39emotionally support them throughout their career, but also we will
0:09:39 > 0:09:42accept you for being who you are and in doing so we will demonstrate the
0:09:42 > 0:09:48fact we are tolerant, fair, and human, not robotic, and I think they
0:09:48 > 0:09:55are really important messages for our offered -- our audience.And you
0:09:55 > 0:09:59heard some of the criticisms there. I do respond to the point you're
0:09:59 > 0:10:04trying to respond to the minority and rejecting -- respond to the
0:10:04 > 0:10:07minority and rejecting the majority? I have been in the Army for quite
0:10:07 > 0:10:11some time and ever since the Roman army was on the shores everyone has
0:10:11 > 0:10:15always said the next generation is not as good as the generation today.
0:10:15 > 0:10:19But no one says Lionel Messi is too short to play football because he is
0:10:19 > 0:10:22an amazing striker, and I think we are looking for a really inclusive
0:10:22 > 0:10:26campaign. We want to take people from all walks of life and bring
0:10:26 > 0:10:37them into the Army, and through the
0:10:46 > 0:10:48training we deliver to them and our inspirational instructors, we won't
0:10:48 > 0:10:51compromise our standards in any way, she perform.How big a problem is it
0:10:51 > 0:10:53recruiting from diverse backgrounds? Are you really lacking in numbers?
0:10:53 > 0:10:55We have made real improvements over recent years. 9% of the regular army
0:10:55 > 0:10:58today are female and 11% are from ethnic minorities, but we still want
0:10:58 > 0:11:01more people. Within the UK we have a really diverse nation and we would
0:11:01 > 0:11:03really like to welcome other people in, with their views and thoughts,
0:11:03 > 0:11:05to aid our decision-making and make the Army more capable.They have
0:11:05 > 0:11:08been a part of growing up, these adverts. Did any one make an impact
0:11:08 > 0:11:16on you guys? Chris, a man of the outdoors.Bearing mind I left school
0:11:16 > 0:11:19in the early 70s and career prospects were pretty bleak and the
0:11:19 > 0:11:24Army was always on the agenda. If you ask me straight, would I have
0:11:24 > 0:11:27joined in the 1970s, no. But then these adverts didn't exist and I
0:11:27 > 0:11:31would not have thought I would have fitted in, so surely that is the
0:11:31 > 0:11:35point of this. We are all inclusive. If I was a teenager looking to
0:11:35 > 0:11:43develop the skill now, I have to see it is an immense pleasure always
0:11:43 > 0:11:47working with them, as I do, so I think it is a very different time
0:11:47 > 0:11:50when it comes to recruitment.Well, you look the part!
0:11:50 > 0:11:57LAUGHTER When I was a teenager I wanted to be
0:11:57 > 0:12:02in the Army. Simply because I liked the idea of people working together
0:12:02 > 0:12:07to achieve a common...The camaraderie?Yes, that is what
0:12:07 > 0:12:11theatre is.I think these adverts are great now and they should have
0:12:11 > 0:12:14been on years and years ago because I didn't feel there was much in the
0:12:14 > 0:12:19Army for someone like myself, although I do remember the ads and
0:12:19 > 0:12:23there are so powerful. This is what I was talking about. Be the best you
0:12:23 > 0:12:26can be. That is something that stuck with me forever and I still think
0:12:26 > 0:12:30about that every week of my life, I still say that, be the best you can
0:12:30 > 0:12:34be. So I think the Army should reflect our population, definitely,
0:12:34 > 0:12:42I agree. All our services should be more diverse.
0:12:42 > 0:12:44more diverse.And tactics are changing also. Lots of these wars
0:12:44 > 0:12:49are fought on a computer, so we need those experts as well.The flip side
0:12:49 > 0:12:54is we had Ireland, which put a lot of people off joining the army, and
0:12:54 > 0:12:58an estimate we have had wars were soldiers, people I actually know,
0:12:58 > 0:13:02they have been alive and soldiers we know have gone there, so it is not
0:13:02 > 0:13:05just travelling the world, skiing, jumping out of helicopters and
0:13:05 > 0:13:12stuff. It is real.The thing is, Simon, people are talking about it.
0:13:12 > 0:13:16Those adverts have created a debate, haven't they?Never a bad thing.
0:13:16 > 0:13:20Thank you for your time.Thank you.
0:13:20 > 0:13:22Chris, you've proven you're up for action and adventure -
0:13:22 > 0:13:24your latest being trekking through the jungle of Sumatra,
0:13:24 > 0:13:26but you didn't go in search of exotic wildlife?
0:13:26 > 0:13:30It's a much more emotive search, in a way, for you, and it all started
0:13:30 > 0:13:3920 years ago, didn't it?Yes, I was making wildlife film 20 years ago in
0:13:39 > 0:13:41Sumatra and I had the honour of meeting a hunter gatherer tribes who
0:13:41 > 0:13:44were working there in the rainforest at that time and it was a life
0:13:44 > 0:13:48changing moment for me. It was the first time I met perfect human
0:13:48 > 0:13:52beings, and I always see perfection in other species but I had struggled
0:13:52 > 0:13:56at that point to see any perfection on ours, given our impact on the
0:13:56 > 0:14:00planet. I mean, there are attractive human beings, Audrey Hepburn being
0:14:00 > 0:14:05at
0:14:08 > 0:14:10at the top of my list...Good choice, Chris!But as a species I
0:14:10 > 0:14:13struggled to like them until I met the Orang Rimba. When I first saw
0:14:13 > 0:14:16them, I watched them moving and they had an extraordinary grace, and they
0:14:16 > 0:14:18didn't look at us with envy, they didn't want our cameras or our
0:14:18 > 0:14:22shoes, because they had no need for that.Or concept, probably.What
0:14:22 > 0:14:28they had that we didn't have was a habitat. What is my habitat? What is
0:14:28 > 0:14:33yours? Mine is destructive, consumptive, but they existed in
0:14:33 > 0:14:35harmony and sustainably in that rainforest and they were so
0:14:35 > 0:14:39beautiful. We were filming, so I didn't have a lot of time, but I
0:14:39 > 0:14:47took one single photograph of a child, and that has become an idyll
0:14:47 > 0:14:50for me, something that reflected all of those thoughts. I thought, 20
0:14:50 > 0:14:53years have passed, there has been an enormous amount of change and
0:14:53 > 0:14:57pressure on the world and I wonder whatever happened to that girl I
0:14:57 > 0:15:01photographed all of those years ago. And it is a beautiful photograph.We
0:15:01 > 0:15:05are just seeing it there.When you were setting out on this, what were
0:15:05 > 0:15:07your thoughts?
0:15:07 > 0:15:10There's a moment in the film where your partner Charlotte talks
0:15:10 > 0:15:12about the effect not finding the girl might have
0:15:12 > 0:15:14on you emotionally - were you prepared to fail?
0:15:14 > 0:15:17The story might have turned out not what you had wanted to hear?I
0:15:17 > 0:15:21turned that story of her tribe she represented in to hope, hope for
0:15:21 > 0:15:25humanity. Like all of us, and we have discussed plastic and our
0:15:25 > 0:15:29negative impacts on the environment, and I always sort of hoped that out
0:15:29 > 0:15:31there in that forest, that sweaty environment with all those animals,
0:15:31 > 0:15:35that this group of people were still living in harmony, and perfectly,
0:15:35 > 0:15:42still as beautiful. But of course I had my doubts.
0:15:45 > 0:15:48had my doubts. You shouldn't really look over your shoulder, look what
0:15:48 > 0:15:54happened to Lot's wife. But I decided to go and have a look for
0:15:54 > 0:15:58her on that last vestige of humanity that was beautiful.And this is the
0:15:58 > 0:16:02remarkable thing. You're amazing memory made it possible for you to
0:16:02 > 0:16:07go back to exactly the same spot, which helped your search, because
0:16:07 > 0:16:13you didn't have much hope.We didn't know her name, the names of any of
0:16:13 > 0:16:17her family, her tribe, and because of the changes in the roads, we
0:16:17 > 0:16:21didn't know where the meeting had taken place. But we picked up a few
0:16:21 > 0:16:25clues and we drove down the road, and people like myself, we have
0:16:25 > 0:16:30discussed the Asperger's before, we have a different way of seeing the
0:16:30 > 0:16:34world and very good memories, so all of those shapes came together, and I
0:16:34 > 0:16:37know it sounds bizarre that someone could go to a rainforest 20 years
0:16:37 > 0:16:42later and find the exact spot, but we got out the original photos and
0:16:42 > 0:16:47we matched the trees, so we knew that we were in the right spot, and
0:16:47 > 0:16:52then we knew which group had been there in 98, and that really got the
0:16:52 > 0:16:59detective mission going then. We had something to go on.So the actual
0:16:59 > 0:17:03environment hadn't changed very much?One or two of the principal
0:17:03 > 0:17:09trees hadn't been felled, so there was enough from me to be able to
0:17:09 > 0:17:12recognise the location, and we spoke to people who worked with these
0:17:12 > 0:17:16tribe subsequently and they knew the tribe who had been a local area. But
0:17:16 > 0:17:20I also then went to meet the tribe, and I have some artefact here, these
0:17:20 > 0:17:24have become some of the most precious things in my life. I spent
0:17:24 > 0:17:28sometime living with these people, and I went fishing using this
0:17:28 > 0:17:33harpoon gun
0:17:33 > 0:17:38harpoon gun which the man...Robson Green would have loved that!I
0:17:38 > 0:17:42didn't get any fish, the gentleman gave me this harpoon gun and I gave
0:17:42 > 0:17:47him my nice new pair of goggles to update them. They gave me some
0:17:47 > 0:17:54necklaces as well, and I have got two, so there you go.Charlotte
0:17:54 > 0:18:01might want that.I have put them in the freezer to make sure there are
0:18:01 > 0:18:07no bugs in them. And these other little pots they use which are
0:18:07 > 0:18:14beautifully woven out of ratan, which is a climber, and I shall
0:18:14 > 0:18:18treasure these for the rest of my life, but not as much as I treasure
0:18:18 > 0:18:23the opportunity to spend some time with people who actually made me
0:18:23 > 0:18:27feel very unhuman, very self-conscious and humble by the
0:18:27 > 0:18:33fact of all I could just never be as good as they were, you know? And the
0:18:33 > 0:18:37kids out there, they were just sprinting through the jungle on
0:18:37 > 0:18:42their own, every day, with no fear of snakes or thorns or disease and
0:18:42 > 0:18:46the parents have no fear about their safety, because there is no reason
0:18:46 > 0:18:51to fear it. It is just the most amazing thing.It is a pure
0:18:51 > 0:18:57existence.Can we all go and live there?You want to go and look this.
0:18:57 > 0:19:00-- watch this.
0:19:00 > 0:19:03Chris Packham: In Search Of The Lost Girl is on Sunday
0:19:03 > 0:19:04night at 9 on BBC2.
0:19:04 > 0:19:08The story of the rainforest and everything is all in there.
0:19:08 > 0:19:10There's no doubt that our understanding of complex diseases
0:19:10 > 0:19:13and conditions is improving all the time - thanks to the hard
0:19:13 > 0:19:15work being done at research facilities like the one
0:19:15 > 0:19:16we're about to see.
0:19:16 > 0:19:19First, Dr Sarah Jarvis has a question for you.
0:19:23 > 0:19:28What's made up of 75% water, generates enough energy to light
0:19:28 > 0:19:34bulb and takes over 20 years to develop fully? It's the brain. And
0:19:34 > 0:19:38I'm here to meet a woman who has more than one. In fact, she's got
0:19:38 > 0:19:45600 of them. Doctor Laura Palmer manages the South West dementia
0:19:45 > 0:19:48brain bank, part of the University of Bristol. People have been
0:19:48 > 0:19:54donating brains here for over 30 years.So we do have tissue
0:19:54 > 0:20:03remaining from some of our earliest owners, -- earliest donors, and that
0:20:03 > 0:20:10tissue are still available today. Vascular dementia and Alzheimer's
0:20:10 > 0:20:14are two of the most common kinds of dementia we want to study. There are
0:20:14 > 0:20:20ten brain banks in the UK, each with their own specialisation, and once a
0:20:20 > 0:20:24donor has died, it is essential they receive the brain as soon as
0:20:24 > 0:20:28possible to prevent deterioration. They have both healthy and diseased
0:20:28 > 0:20:32brains, and when cross sections of them are compared, you can see the
0:20:32 > 0:20:37difference.The person with Alzheimer's has much less brain
0:20:37 > 0:20:43tissue. At the back you can see the hippocampus, so that is the main
0:20:43 > 0:20:46area in the brain that important in learning and memory. It also tends
0:20:46 > 0:20:52to be the first structure that is affected by Alzheimer's disease.And
0:20:52 > 0:20:57further tests show what's causing the disease.So everything that
0:20:57 > 0:21:05you're seeing that Brown is this abnormal sticky protein called
0:21:05 > 0:21:09beta-amyloid which is found in the brains of people with Alzheimer's.
0:21:09 > 0:21:12It is toxic to cells and we know it causes cell death.As research
0:21:12 > 0:21:18continues, donors I needed. But brains are not included on the
0:21:18 > 0:21:22normal organ donation form. That wish us to be registered separately.
0:21:22 > 0:21:29I'm planning to, but would you? Identity. Brain feels a bit weird.
0:21:29 > 0:21:36Because it's like my thoughts and ideas and stuff.I suppose it's no
0:21:36 > 0:21:44different than any other organ.It depends, where you think conscience,
0:21:44 > 0:21:48your consciousness, is seated, I would say.I'm a firm believer that
0:21:48 > 0:21:53once we are done with it, it should be made available.Susan from Welch
0:21:53 > 0:21:59is one person who has already signed up to donate her brain after she
0:21:59 > 0:22:06died. Both her mother and aunt had dementia.My mother in the last
0:22:06 > 0:22:09three months of her life really wasn't quite sure who I was, and
0:22:09 > 0:22:15that is very hard for a relative. My aunt was always very busy, but the
0:22:15 > 0:22:20last year or so, she kept hiding things and forgetting to eat.Her
0:22:20 > 0:22:27art wanted her body left to medical science and to help with research
0:22:27 > 0:22:31into dementia, her brain was donated to the brain bank.She always wanted
0:22:31 > 0:22:35to help other people and I thought by continuing to do this, having
0:22:35 > 0:22:40some family history is useful for the brain bank.Susan is keen to see
0:22:40 > 0:22:46the work done here, so we've brought her along to meet Laura.So I'm
0:22:46 > 0:22:51going to show you a half hemisphere of a brain from someone with a
0:22:51 > 0:22:55diagnosis of dementia. We can see that there are some quite prominent
0:22:55 > 0:22:58dips and grooves in the surface of the brain. This is where some of the
0:22:58 > 0:23:04tissue has been lost. Soap cell death occurs in Alzheimer's disease.
0:23:04 > 0:23:07When we compare that with the person who didn't have any memory problems
0:23:07 > 0:23:13when they died, we can see that the area of the brain is much more
0:23:13 > 0:23:17tightly packed. We don't have such large dips and grooves.I had
0:23:17 > 0:23:21suspected that maybe the brain might shrink a bit if you got Alzheimer's,
0:23:21 > 0:23:26but I didn't know what it would look like, and I'm really glad for my
0:23:26 > 0:23:30aunt and myself that I donating to her brain, because hopefully it will
0:23:30 > 0:23:36help others.It certainly will. Dementia never affects just one
0:23:36 > 0:23:40person. It affects whole families. But with the amazing work that brain
0:23:40 > 0:23:46banks like this are doing, it could mean that one day there might just
0:23:46 > 0:23:49be a world without dementia.
0:23:50 > 0:23:52Organ donation, in general, is something we've talked
0:23:52 > 0:23:55about many times on the show, and it's always great
0:23:55 > 0:23:57to hear when our coverage has made a difference.
0:23:57 > 0:23:59Back in April 2016, we met the family of ten-year-old
0:23:59 > 0:24:03Evie Staley who was killed by a drunk driver.
0:24:03 > 0:24:05Her parents, Neal and Penny, made the brave decision
0:24:05 > 0:24:07to meet Scarlett - the little girl who
0:24:07 > 0:24:08received Evie's heart.
0:24:08 > 0:24:16A decision that undoubtedly helped to save more lives.
0:24:20 > 0:24:27We were pulling out of the drive, and got hit by a car.I remember
0:24:27 > 0:24:32waking up and being told by the doctor the Evie had not made it and
0:24:32 > 0:24:36she had died.We made the decision that we would go ahead with organ
0:24:36 > 0:24:44donation, and it was as simple as that.I have got a special heart.
0:24:44 > 0:24:46that.I have got a special heart.So you have got Evie's heart. What
0:24:46 > 0:24:53happened to her?She died and she's an angel now.In some ways, it does
0:24:53 > 0:25:04ease some of the grief. That had a big effect on all of us.
0:25:04 > 0:25:06With us now are Nicola, Ellie and George Newnes,
0:25:06 > 0:25:08who were watching the show that night, along with
0:25:08 > 0:25:09their dad Darren.
0:25:09 > 0:25:14What happened in your house that night?I grew up on the Isle of
0:25:14 > 0:25:18Wight, and I was watching that with my husband, and it sparked a simple
0:25:18 > 0:25:21conversation about organ donation, and I turned to him, because I'm on
0:25:21 > 0:25:24the register, and I said, you do know I have got the donor card, and
0:25:24 > 0:25:30that is what I would like. And he said, yes, of course. And I said,
0:25:30 > 0:25:35what about you? You are not on the register. But would you want to help
0:25:35 > 0:25:39people? If you are in the worst situation, that is what you would
0:25:39 > 0:25:44want, isn't it? And he said, yes, of course. And it was just a rarely
0:25:44 > 0:25:49brief and simple conversation, not knowing that a few months down the
0:25:49 > 0:25:54line, that I would be in that dreadful situation.But it was lucky
0:25:54 > 0:25:56you have had the conversation, because then when the worst happened
0:25:56 > 0:26:00and you lost your husband, you could act quickly, couldn't you? And union
0:26:00 > 0:26:08exactly what to do. And in turn, your dad saved five other lives. So
0:26:08 > 0:26:12what do you say, Nicola, to couples and families out there who haven't
0:26:12 > 0:26:17had that conversation and aren't clear about what your parents, your
0:26:17 > 0:26:23partners, your husband, your wife, wants?I think it is important to
0:26:23 > 0:26:28have that conversation. If you are looking at a programme like this or
0:26:28 > 0:26:32you see it on social media, you spark a simple conversation. It
0:26:32 > 0:26:35doesn't come up every day, but we should be more aware of it, because
0:26:35 > 0:26:40it is just so important when I was in that situation, because I knew
0:26:40 > 0:26:46his wishes, I knew that that was what he wanted. It took a lot of the
0:26:46 > 0:26:50responsibility away from me. I knew what he wanted, and it is difficult
0:26:50 > 0:26:55when you are in that situation, it is a huge responsibility.So to have
0:26:55 > 0:27:03the clarity helps, he is a legend, saving five people's lives. After
0:27:03 > 0:27:08featuring Evie's story on the show, there was a 70% spike in the number
0:27:08 > 0:27:13of people signing up to be donors, so hopefully tonight we will do the
0:27:13 > 0:27:16same. All the details are on our website, and wherever you stand on
0:27:16 > 0:27:20organ donation, please make sure you discuss it with your loved ones, and
0:27:20 > 0:27:24thank you to the three of you.
0:27:24 > 0:27:27And we can all have our say too on the public consultation that's
0:27:27 > 0:27:30currently under way to decide whether England and Northern Ireland
0:27:30 > 0:27:38should adopt an opt-out system like the one in Wales.
0:27:41 > 0:27:46Trevor, you have been involved in a campaign.
0:27:46 > 0:27:48To get more black and ethnic
0:27:48 > 0:27:50minority donors to sign up - something you've been
0:27:50 > 0:27:53involved in in the past - why's the message not getting
0:27:53 > 0:27:54through, do you think?
0:27:54 > 0:27:58In different cultures, there is a lot of fear to giving blood organ
0:27:58 > 0:28:02donation, things like that. A lot of it comes from your parents and the
0:28:02 > 0:28:08generation before them, and I think that the next generation will be a
0:28:08 > 0:28:12lot more in step with and in tune with the need to do this. I don't
0:28:12 > 0:28:18want to sound like a hypocrite, but we were just talking, I was aware of
0:28:18 > 0:28:23it, you have had a card for years, and I said, I've got to have a card,
0:28:23 > 0:28:28where is my card? It is moments like this where you realise it is so
0:28:28 > 0:28:31important. This spike you were talking about is because people
0:28:31 > 0:28:36think about it, and do you have to have the whole family around you
0:28:36 > 0:28:39discuss it, or would you just shocks if something happens to you
0:28:39 > 0:28:46suddenly? That you have a donor card.It is just worth having that
0:28:46 > 0:28:49conversation.It is a horrible conversation to have, but you've got
0:28:49 > 0:28:57to have it.If you are interested at home, and you once of information,
0:28:57 > 0:29:01then there is the information.I was renewing my RAC membership, and
0:29:01 > 0:29:06there was a box to take to be an organ donor, and I ticked the box.
0:29:06 > 0:29:10Simple as that.
0:29:10 > 0:29:13Right, it's time to talk Vera now, because Brenda's back in that mac
0:29:13 > 0:29:17again, taking on the criminals of the north-east.
0:29:17 > 0:29:29Here you are, in the mac!We found his wallet in his pocket. He went
0:29:29 > 0:29:32for a swim, folded up his clothes, nice and neat.Folded up his
0:29:32 > 0:29:39clothes? Do you see anything at all in his bedroom that was folded? It's
0:29:39 > 0:29:46like a tip. A teenage lad would have just kicked off his jeans and left
0:29:46 > 0:29:53them where they fell. This all seems too contrived.You might want to
0:29:53 > 0:29:59come and see this.
0:29:59 > 0:30:04Nobody loves Northumberland more than me, and I know that feeling,
0:30:04 > 0:30:08cold, and getting warm after that clip. Do you ever wish that may be
0:30:08 > 0:30:16you could do Poirot or Miss Marple, somewhere warmer?Yes, Seleucia or
0:30:16 > 0:30:23somewhere. But it was just beautiful there. That was filmed up near
0:30:23 > 0:30:31Kielder Forest,.And Vera is popular the world over. I was recently in
0:30:31 > 0:30:36New Zealand with my parents, and we watched episode after episode.Sorry
0:30:36 > 0:30:40about that!You are surprised at how popular it is with younger people as
0:30:40 > 0:30:45well.
0:30:47 > 0:30:50Sometimes you would have to police then when you were filming.
0:30:50 > 0:30:57Sometimes we would get a crowd of people chanting, Vera, Vera! And we
0:30:57 > 0:31:01had to get them to police the whole crowd for us, telling them we were
0:31:01 > 0:31:09about to start filming. And I would do all the filming signs, turning,
0:31:09 > 0:31:15and they were great. And we went to the Crane Festival at Harrowgate, an
0:31:15 > 0:31:26annual festival, and the last time there
0:31:26 > 0:31:31there was a Q&A, and it was great, and a lad of 12 stood up, and he
0:31:31 > 0:31:34said me and my friends, we watch Vera and it's our favourite
0:31:34 > 0:31:41programme. I told him I was really astonished and I asked why and he
0:31:41 > 0:31:44said because the stories were always so good and she was so funny, so we
0:31:44 > 0:31:48were really flattered.And we have it on good authority that you are
0:31:48 > 0:31:52quite a stickler as far as the grips in the plot are concerned. You're
0:31:52 > 0:31:58the first one on the phone having the conversation?If I am reading
0:31:58 > 0:32:03and the script lands on the doormat, I read it. If I suss it out early
0:32:03 > 0:32:08on, it goes back to the drawing board. It's no good if I can work it
0:32:08 > 0:32:14out!Well, you are the detective. But not on page three!And people
0:32:14 > 0:32:18like it because it is complex. You don't guess. There are so many
0:32:18 > 0:32:25twists and turns, but you two fans murder mysteries?I do like one.I
0:32:25 > 0:32:32don't mind...I do.You can see if you don't!I don't like the
0:32:32 > 0:32:38Hollywood ones which aretoo easy. If I get it after the first two
0:32:38 > 0:32:45minutes I think it is boring.You need Vera in your life!Lake with
0:32:45 > 0:32:52Colombo, and you know who it is up front. Yes, you didn't needto be a
0:32:52 > 0:32:58detective to figure it out.They are pretty good at keeping the audience
0:32:58 > 0:33:05guessing.I think one of the greatest ever is Scooby Doo!
0:33:05 > 0:33:10LAUGHTER And at the end you're like who,
0:33:10 > 0:33:15what, I didn't see it! LAUGHTER
0:33:17 > 0:33:27Vera is 71 and she rules the roost...Brenda is 71, Vera's not!
0:33:27 > 0:33:31Well, I didn't want to give your age away... But seeing you in such a
0:33:31 > 0:33:36strong role.Yes, not reliant on lipstick, or she doesn't look like
0:33:36 > 0:33:42she has walked off the catwalk. They did do a bit of work. And the
0:33:42 > 0:33:46costume is cleverly designed, everything finishing at hip height
0:33:46 > 0:33:52so it makes it wider, because in the novels, and grieve's novels, she is
0:33:52 > 0:34:01very tall, very big, and I'm not. I'm five foot two.
0:34:01 > 0:34:08I'm five foot two. -- Anne Cleave's novels.And you do your own stunts?
0:34:08 > 0:34:13If you call steering your key stunt! LAUGHTER
0:34:13 > 0:34:19And we get to see Vera's personal side. And you actually live next
0:34:19 > 0:34:26door to Kenny, who plays aiding? Yes, for a cup of sugar...You get
0:34:26 > 0:34:31on brilliantly. And Vera is on ITV this Sunday, and if you have missed
0:34:31 > 0:34:36any of the series so far, you can get the box set.A lot of catching
0:34:36 > 0:34:42up to do!
0:34:42 > 0:34:45up to do! Yes, Winterwatch next week, nothing to do!
0:34:45 > 0:34:47It was nice to see another BBC wildlife presenter,
0:34:47 > 0:34:49Sir David Attenborough, and the Blue Planet II
0:34:49 > 0:34:51get their impact award at the NTAs last night for highlighting
0:34:51 > 0:34:53the damage caused by single-use plastic.
0:34:53 > 0:34:56And anyone watching over the last few weeks will know it's a cause
0:34:56 > 0:35:00close to our hearts.
0:35:00 > 0:35:03I know we have been talking about it already this evening.
0:35:03 > 0:35:04Tonight we're giving the big supermarkets,
0:35:04 > 0:35:07restaurants and fast food chains a bit of a break and asking how it's
0:35:07 > 0:35:10possible for entire towns and villages to go plastic-free.
0:35:10 > 0:35:14Here's Lucy.
0:35:14 > 0:35:20These Welsh business owners are on a mission.I came down from West Wales
0:35:20 > 0:35:25today.To make Aberporth the first village in Wales to go plastic free.
0:35:25 > 0:35:32We brought them here to Penzance. The place which last month was
0:35:32 > 0:35:37awarded the first plastic free town status in the UK, and we want to
0:35:37 > 0:35:40harvest some tips from this community on turning the plastic
0:35:40 > 0:35:47tied for those following in its wake. Aberporth cafe owners have
0:35:47 > 0:35:50already replaced their single use plastic with biodegradable straws
0:35:50 > 0:35:55and cups, but will Helen Swift, who runs Archie Brown 's cafe in
0:35:55 > 0:35:59Penzance, have any more tips?If people come in with their own
0:35:59 > 0:36:02containers we will charge them left for their takeaway. If they buy a
0:36:02 > 0:36:06multiple use cup we will give them a free copy when they buy it and we
0:36:06 > 0:36:10will then give them money off every coffee after that.Are you going to
0:36:10 > 0:36:16be this generous?Will have to wait and see what happens! We will have
0:36:16 > 0:36:21to work on this.It is certainly a good idea.Things are going well,
0:36:21 > 0:36:26but both sets of cafe owners have concerns about the recycling of
0:36:26 > 0:36:31their biodegradable containers.We are taking away business, taking
0:36:31 > 0:36:35away from our premises, you put it in the Ben An what does the council
0:36:35 > 0:36:39do afterwards?It would be better if it could be the compost it is all
0:36:39 > 0:36:44local authorities had proper compost facilities for the food waste, which
0:36:44 > 0:36:48they don't and unfortunately we don't in Cornwall.Archie Brown 's
0:36:48 > 0:36:55is just one of 15 dedicated plastic free businesses in Penzance. Others
0:36:55 > 0:36:59include the Chippy...For years I was stuck with polystyrene cups to
0:36:59 > 0:37:06sell mushy peas and gravy but these are biodegradable, looks plastic but
0:37:06 > 0:37:14it is made of starch.The grocers... They have either paper bags, jute
0:37:14 > 0:37:23bags...And the coffee van man...It is made with oil liner.But does it
0:37:23 > 0:37:29come at a cost? Let's just talk expense.Twice as expensive as a
0:37:29 > 0:37:35cheaper cup.That is hard to bear? It is not a huge expense, Coffey is
0:37:35 > 0:37:39a huge mark-up.Said it easier for some businesses than others. For
0:37:39 > 0:37:42example, here in Penzance there is not one butcher who has been brave
0:37:42 > 0:37:47enough to take the challenge. Jill Sutton, who runs a gift shop in the
0:37:47 > 0:37:53Welsh town -- a Welsh town nine miles from Aberporth, is concerned
0:37:53 > 0:37:57about some of her more tricky products.In the shop we have a
0:37:57 > 0:38:03number of products that come with a very nice label, and then we have
0:38:03 > 0:38:08these little plastic hang tags.Oh, no! We don't want that. That is a
0:38:08 > 0:38:13horrible little bit of plastic and also the sort of plastic that breaks
0:38:13 > 0:38:18easily and could end up being eaten by wild life. As for getting James
0:38:18 > 0:38:26who runs the Glan Mardi takeaway, he is worried he would find other
0:38:26 > 0:38:32supplier who will meet his demand for eco-friendly products -- Gethin
0:38:32 > 0:38:40James who runs the Glenmardy takeaway.I didn't realise Coffey
0:38:40 > 0:38:43cops weren't recyclable.They do the wooden cutlery, the whole lot, all
0:38:43 > 0:38:48of it.The main thing from the visit today, find suppliers that would
0:38:48 > 0:38:57mean I can take up to 10,000 coffeecups out of the stream with
0:38:57 > 0:39:01just one business.With all these businesses already on board, I thee
0:39:01 > 0:39:05any closer to being awarded that all-important plastic free status?
0:39:05 > 0:39:12-- are they any closer. Hugo is from the group Servers against Sewage
0:39:12 > 0:39:16will run the plastic free project. What do individual businesses have
0:39:16 > 0:39:20to do? El Ahmadi have to commit to eliminating replacing at least three
0:39:20 > 0:39:27items of single use plastic they currently use. --yes, they have to
0:39:27 > 0:39:30commit. They need to engage the local council, get them on board
0:39:30 > 0:39:34with a plastic free agenda. We have hundreds of communities around the
0:39:34 > 0:39:37UK working towards the status and it has only been going a few months and
0:39:37 > 0:39:41we have been overwhelmed by the response.After what they have
0:39:41 > 0:39:47learned in Penzance today, well Aberporth officially become the
0:39:47 > 0:39:51first place in Wales to go plastic free?
0:39:51 > 0:39:55STUDIO:They did learn quite a lot from Penzance, it turns out. Some
0:39:55 > 0:40:00good news?
0:40:00 > 0:40:01good news?Aberporth has attained plastic free status!
0:40:01 > 0:40:09APPLAUSE Well done.
0:40:10 > 0:40:14Well done.But so has Tynemouth. Well done. They are joining them as
0:40:14 > 0:40:20we saw and leading the nation. Very good work. We also wanted to speak
0:40:20 > 0:40:24about supermarkets again, and I know I keep going on about this. We have
0:40:24 > 0:40:30a little update for you. 200 MPs across party have written to the
0:40:30 > 0:40:35major supermarkets, the nine major ones, asking them what they will do
0:40:35 > 0:40:39to eliminate plastics in their supply chain by 2023. We know from
0:40:39 > 0:40:45last week Iceland, the retailer not the country, they have pledged to
0:40:45 > 0:40:49eliminate plastic waste in their supply chain by that date, and
0:40:49 > 0:40:52Waitrose has announced they are getting rid of all the black plastic
0:40:52 > 0:40:57trees we spoke about which are very difficult to recycle. So that is a
0:40:57 > 0:40:59little update. Supermarkets are important because there is so much
0:40:59 > 0:41:03plastic waste. 800,000 tonnes a year is generated in the UK and just to
0:41:03 > 0:41:08give you a visual that would be like an industrial skip that goes end to
0:41:08 > 0:41:13end from London to Sydney full of plastic waste.That is ridiculous!
0:41:13 > 0:41:20Oh, dear.Our trusted viewers once more are coming and their droves
0:41:20 > 0:41:24saying what you should do at home with lots of tips and ideas to
0:41:24 > 0:41:27reduce plastic.Yes, they have been consistently excellent.
0:41:27 > 0:41:32Lots of viewers telling us they have switched back to the milkman and
0:41:32 > 0:41:35glass bottles and doorstep deliveries, so really old school.
0:41:35 > 0:41:41This tallies with the national picture where customers with milk
0:41:41 > 0:41:45deliveries have been up over the last to my ears. We heard from Mark
0:41:45 > 0:41:50in Wales who has been in the business for 35 years and he says
0:41:50 > 0:41:52following the recent stuff around plastics and the profile he has been
0:41:52 > 0:41:59inundated with inquiries -- the last two years. He has had to refurbish
0:41:59 > 0:42:05his 45-year-old milk float.Getting there!I will briefly leave you all
0:42:05 > 0:42:10and go to my plastic free gallery over here. So I will give you some
0:42:10 > 0:42:17more great tips we have had from viewers. This one from Cambridge.
0:42:17 > 0:42:20Antonella recommends using beeswax wrap instead of cling film which can
0:42:20 > 0:42:24be washed and reusable, very good idea. Mickey Browning's daughter in
0:42:24 > 0:42:30law introduced reusable bread bags which she says keep spread really
0:42:30 > 0:42:34fresh. And Becky from Portsmouth sent in a picture. This is her
0:42:34 > 0:42:40bamboo straws. Thank you. Emma Thompson from London with all her
0:42:40 > 0:42:45refillables and reusables including a bamboo toothbrush, very good. If
0:42:45 > 0:42:49you wanted to you could also get toothpaste in a jar which I think
0:42:49 > 0:42:53not many people know about to reduce the plastic in your bathroom, and
0:42:53 > 0:42:56these are all excellent tips you have been sending in so keep them
0:42:56 > 0:43:00coming. Some of these products are biodegradable and we have had a
0:43:00 > 0:43:03little confusion over that because they don't degrade in landfill
0:43:03 > 0:43:06because there is no oxygen so it is not the right conditions, so they
0:43:06 > 0:43:11need to go into compost is, and what we are doing here is obviously
0:43:11 > 0:43:16switching from single use plastic to refillables and reusables. Because
0:43:16 > 0:43:20it is not the best use of plastic and there are other places that can
0:43:20 > 0:43:26go. We love your tips and ideas, they are invaluable, so please keep
0:43:26 > 0:43:31them coming.Thank you! I was thinking, you could trade that
0:43:31 > 0:43:41necklace for that bamboo toothbrush, you might quite like that, Chris. We
0:43:41 > 0:43:45willbe talking to Trevor about his new album to put you in the mood for
0:43:45 > 0:43:48Love, coming up.
0:43:48 > 0:43:51But at a time when gender equality is grabbing more
0:43:51 > 0:43:52headlines than ever, do we need to rewrite the
0:43:52 > 0:43:53more-traditional rules of romance?
0:43:53 > 0:43:59It's one for Esther.
0:43:59 > 0:44:04Handsome gentleman, I need your advice, all of you. You know it is
0:44:04 > 0:44:09the age of equality, equal rights, equal pay. But when you go on a
0:44:09 > 0:44:14first date, who pays the dinner?The gentleman, I am old school.Always
0:44:14 > 0:44:21the gentleman?These days, they tend to share. In our day, the man used
0:44:21 > 0:44:29to pay.Did I? Do remember! Where did he take you on your first date?
0:44:29 > 0:44:39The Playboy club.What?! Hello, I'm looking for a handsome gentleman.
0:44:39 > 0:44:44What is your problem?When you take out a lady on a date, who pays?In
0:44:44 > 0:44:53my country, we pay. Greece. How are you, my dear friend?And very good.
0:44:53 > 0:44:59I think I was flirting with him, actually. Are you enjoying that?I
0:44:59 > 0:45:04will buy you a coffee.Maybe I should pave the yours. Does he
0:45:04 > 0:45:11always pick up the tab?Yes, he does.When you went on your first
0:45:11 > 0:45:19date with your now husband, when you were...? 26.I would have been
0:45:19 > 0:45:29happy to pay, but this is his mother. And my mother. So all those
0:45:29 > 0:45:38years of marriage, you have never split the bill?No. In the years I
0:45:38 > 0:45:43was working, I would occasionally treat my husband, as a, I would like
0:45:43 > 0:45:49to take you out, do something lovely for you.Shut the man paid?
0:45:49 > 0:45:54Personally, I think you should.Do you ever offered to pick up the
0:45:54 > 0:46:01bill?With my husband, no.When you go out for a meal, does she
0:46:01 > 0:46:05sometimes pick up the bill? Sometimes. She doesn't like to
0:46:05 > 0:46:09depend on me for everything.Give her my love, tell her how lucky you
0:46:09 > 0:46:15are to have her! That has got a lot of people talking
0:46:15 > 0:46:20right across the nation. Where do you stand on this, Chris?I think it
0:46:20 > 0:46:25splits both ways. It should be the old 50/50, it is nice to be able to
0:46:25 > 0:46:28give and to receive, so sometimes I pay for a meal if I take Charlotte
0:46:28 > 0:46:33Heard, and sometimes she pays for me.
0:46:33 > 0:46:37Same as ours, and it is not just men and women these days. It is all over
0:46:37 > 0:46:47the place. Anybody can pay. Just be nice to each other!Should the
0:46:47 > 0:46:51person who does the inviting pay? Yes, if you are in a relationship
0:46:51 > 0:46:57already, you know the rules. It is when you don't.The person doing the
0:46:57 > 0:46:59inviting should definitely have the funds, in case it all goes wrong.
0:46:59 > 0:47:04Nothing should be taken for granted. So what happened today when you
0:47:04 > 0:47:09invited me for lunch? LAUGHTER
0:47:10 > 0:47:19So that's why you did it, to stick it in there!Just kidding.So,
0:47:19 > 0:47:27Trevor, is a gig a good place for a first date?Not the cinema, that is
0:47:27 > 0:47:31awkward, do you sit at the back, do you sit in the middle, sit at the
0:47:31 > 0:47:35front, do front, do you do that, awkward! Go to a gig, have a great
0:47:35 > 0:47:40time, the focus is on somebody else other than you, no uncomfortable
0:47:40 > 0:47:44silences, bottles, great mood, take it from there, see how it goes.A
0:47:44 > 0:47:51twinkle in his, look at that.That wouldn't have worked with the Ramon
0:47:51 > 0:47:58is a 1977! We would have stood there in silence getting blasted.We are
0:47:58 > 0:48:07going to put some music on now, because we are in the mood for Slow
0:48:07 > 0:48:14Jams. There is a definite vibe to this, and arriving through Port
0:48:14 > 0:48:20Talbot on a Monday morning wasn't quite right. It has a lot of R&B on
0:48:20 > 0:48:25it, a lot of songs with the same sort of rhythm, shall we say. When
0:48:25 > 0:48:29do you expect people to listen to this album?I know where you are
0:48:29 > 0:48:35going with this, the lights have gone red, I am an R&B DJ, and I know
0:48:35 > 0:48:40there are many love songs. I don't play these in my bedroom. But I play
0:48:40 > 0:48:44them to chill out in my car. I love them in different situations. As I
0:48:44 > 0:48:48have got older, things have changed, I don't use them as a tool. I just
0:48:48 > 0:48:53love this music. I have been compiling songs since I did playlist
0:48:53 > 0:48:58at school. Becomes very naturally, since I had a Sony Walkman.Was it
0:48:58 > 0:49:07the yellow one?Yes! Terrible headphones, but I used to put
0:49:07 > 0:49:10playlists together, and now I do a radio show, so for 30 years I have
0:49:10 > 0:49:16compiled stuff every week.A lot of work with, three CDs.My first gig
0:49:16 > 0:49:20was at a school disco, because I was too nervous to ask girls to dance,
0:49:20 > 0:49:25and we went to a boys school, so imagine that. We had to ship a load
0:49:25 > 0:49:30of girls in, and I said, I will DJ, I have got loads of music, and I
0:49:30 > 0:49:39played Marvin Gaye, Let's Get It On at the end. And I relies I had
0:49:39 > 0:49:46something, I could select music, and I was quite good at it. So I stopped
0:49:46 > 0:49:51doing compilations, I had a good run recently sold quite a few, and the
0:49:51 > 0:49:55record company said, you haven't done a Slow Jams one, have you, and
0:49:55 > 0:50:02I said, no, and I really do love a lot of these slow tunes.What is
0:50:02 > 0:50:11your go to romantic song, Chris and Brenda?For me, it is Pure by the
0:50:11 > 0:50:18Lightning Seeds. My dogs would both Howell to it. When my mother died,
0:50:18 > 0:50:22we put in the ground, and they stood at the side of the grave, and we
0:50:22 > 0:50:25used to think it was hysterical, I played it on my phone and they both
0:50:25 > 0:50:32Howell that it was very romantic moment.Mine is Carole King, Will
0:50:32 > 0:50:39You Still Love Me Tomorrow.And you inject mood into your programmes
0:50:39 > 0:50:44with the music?Not like this! Normally a bit more lively.And
0:50:44 > 0:50:51Trevor, you had a 30 year career, so influential in producing Britain's
0:50:51 > 0:50:54R&B, so what was it back then about that music that you wanted to share?
0:50:54 > 0:51:04I genuinely don't believe you pick a music picks you. Something hits you,
0:51:04 > 0:51:09you can't lie about your taste in music is what it is. And I used to
0:51:09 > 0:51:14be, at 13, I loved music that 80-year-olds like, and I have always
0:51:14 > 0:51:19loved soul music. And I got the opportunity on Radio 1, a
0:51:19 > 0:51:23magnificent moment for me, to do the first national R&B show, and it made
0:51:23 > 0:51:28a hell of a lot to me, and now I meet people who say, it got me
0:51:28 > 0:51:31through uni, you got me through this, and it changed my taste in
0:51:31 > 0:51:37music because I read as this is what I like, and that of the DJ, you get
0:51:37 > 0:51:41the opportunity, and every show I treat like I am compiling an album,
0:51:41 > 0:51:49I genuinely do. I take hours and hours on every show that I do.
0:51:49 > 0:51:55Well, Slow Jams is out now, just in time for Valentine's Day.Perfect!
0:51:55 > 0:51:58Now, prepare to be amazed, because our next guest is a magician
0:51:58 > 0:52:00who's impressed the likes of Penn and Teller with his
0:52:00 > 0:52:03incredible card tricks - so much so that he got a job
0:52:03 > 0:52:04supporting them in Las Vegas.
0:52:04 > 0:52:06Pretty incredible for a man they call "the sleight
0:52:06 > 0:52:09of no hands magician".
0:52:26 > 0:52:29Please welcome Mahdi Gilbert.
0:52:29 > 0:52:39CHEERING OK, Madhi, in your own time.This is
0:52:39 > 0:52:42one of the tricks I have been doing the longest, it uses three red cards
0:52:42 > 0:52:46and three black cards, and something that I don't have but I will need to
0:52:46 > 0:52:56borrow from one of you in a moment, your two hands.I will do it.It's
0:52:56 > 0:53:01OK, she will do it, but it's OK. First we mix the cards, a red card
0:53:01 > 0:53:09in between each and every one of the black cards.What have I got to do?
0:53:09 > 0:53:22You don't do anything. You watch. So, a black, and a read.
0:53:22 > 0:53:28Can you interlace your fingers? Put your fingers apart, put one hand on
0:53:28 > 0:53:33top of the other, and because you do that over there, the same thing
0:53:33 > 0:53:36happens, every single one of the blacks is over here, and every
0:53:36 > 0:53:40single one of the Reds is over there.
0:53:40 > 0:53:47APPLAUSE One of the oldest rules in magic is
0:53:47 > 0:53:50that you never repeat the same trick twice, but I don't follow the rules,
0:53:50 > 0:53:56so I will do it again. Some cards face up, some face down.
0:53:56 > 0:54:01The blacks and the Reds.
0:54:06 > 0:54:11And can you interlace your fingers one more time? Put your finger is
0:54:11 > 0:54:15apart, put one hand on top of the other, and because you do that over
0:54:15 > 0:54:19there, the same thing once again happens over here, every single one
0:54:19 > 0:54:29of these is a black, and you take the red. Put a card down.Any one?
0:54:29 > 0:54:33Yes, you put one and I will put another, there you go, and it is OK
0:54:33 > 0:54:38if we chat. I want everybody to see that they are interlaced, one by
0:54:38 > 0:54:49one. We have red and black and red and black. We will separate these
0:54:49 > 0:54:52two piles, and once they are separated, they will never touch
0:54:52 > 0:54:57again. With these cards over here, and these cards over here, and I
0:54:57 > 0:55:00will show you all the card so that there is no doubt as to what is
0:55:00 > 0:55:10where. Here we have red and black and red, and here, black and red and
0:55:10 > 0:55:17black. And can you both interlace your fingers? I would do it myself,
0:55:17 > 0:55:22but I have to do the magic. Only if you believe in magic, pull your
0:55:22 > 0:55:25fingers apart and put one hand on top of the other, and if this works,
0:55:25 > 0:55:32only if it works, now, every single one of the red cards should be over
0:55:32 > 0:55:35here, and over here, every single one of the blacks.
0:55:35 > 0:55:44APPLAUSE That is mesmerising.I have no idea
0:55:44 > 0:55:50how he did that.And how did you find magic? Or was it the other way
0:55:50 > 0:55:53around?I always wanted to do magic, when I was a little kid I always
0:55:53 > 0:55:57felt like so many things were possible for me, and I thought if I
0:55:57 > 0:56:03became a Jewish and I would be able to do anything.
0:56:03 > 0:56:12And as we said, Penn and Teller have singled you out and said you are the
0:56:12 > 0:56:18future, you have toured with them in Las Vegas and played to an audience
0:56:18 > 0:56:26of 550 million in China.It has gone pretty wild, yes.And what are your
0:56:26 > 0:56:32hopes for the future?I don't know, I guess maybe get to 1 billion or
0:56:32 > 0:56:35six. I want the whole world to fall in love with magic and love it as
0:56:35 > 0:56:39much as I love it.And you are an absolute advocate for practising and
0:56:39 > 0:56:44finding your own way of doing whatever it is, but it has been
0:56:44 > 0:56:46fantastic, once again, Madhi Gilbert!
0:56:46 > 0:56:50APPLAUSE
0:56:50 > 0:56:53And if you'd like to see more of Mahdi's magic, he's performing
0:56:53 > 0:56:56at The Vault Festival here in London from the 31st of January.
0:56:56 > 0:56:57Super job.
0:56:57 > 0:57:00Chris, we have to talk about the return of Winterwatch.
0:57:00 > 0:57:02You're back in the Cotswolds next eek.
0:57:02 > 0:57:06Anything you're particularly excited to see?
0:57:06 > 0:57:11The weather we have been having lately, this will be a challenge.
0:57:11 > 0:57:14Not all the rain and wind that we had today, because that will have a
0:57:14 > 0:57:18huge impact on what we have. But we have some experiments we are setting
0:57:18 > 0:57:22up to see which farmland birds might be coming in and how they use their
0:57:22 > 0:57:26beaks to each different seas. We have been Carl Rimmer more badgers,
0:57:26 > 0:57:33because the badgers in that part of Gloucestershire are behaving quite
0:57:33 > 0:57:36strangely, so we will find that more than that. -- collaring more
0:57:36 > 0:57:40badgers. And we're going to Scotland to look at these as well.And what
0:57:40 > 0:57:44is your schedule?Monday to Thursday, we start at the later time
0:57:44 > 0:57:47of nine o'clock.
0:57:47 > 0:57:50Trevor, you had to build a new window at home
0:57:50 > 0:57:52to enjoy your favourite view?
0:57:52 > 0:57:57We know you like a fish pond, but he has also built a special window so
0:57:57 > 0:58:06that he can see it.This is his carp pond!I bought a house, and builders
0:58:06 > 0:58:11had built a pond which was not good for the fish, so most of those fish
0:58:11 > 0:58:15in there are injured.So they were there when you moved in?So you
0:58:15 > 0:58:19renovated their pond?I got a specialist in and he said, this is
0:58:19 > 0:58:24not a good pond for these fish, so before I even got the heating sorted
0:58:24 > 0:58:28in my house, I said, I am going to save them, I built this great big
0:58:28 > 0:58:33pond, it is like a summing pool but the fish.You will be on the next
0:58:33 > 0:58:38Springwatch if you are not careful! Have you got otters? That is what we
0:58:38 > 0:58:42need on our programmes.
0:58:42 > 0:58:43That's it for tonight.
0:58:43 > 0:58:45Thanks to our guests, Chris, Brenda and Trevor.
0:58:45 > 0:58:48Trevor's album Slow Jams is out now, series eight of Vera is released
0:58:48 > 0:58:51on DVD on the 28th of February and you can see Chris Packham:
0:58:51 > 0:58:55In Search of the Lost Girl on Sunday night at nine on BBC Two.
0:58:55 > 0:58:57Tomorrow night, Julia Bradbury will be here.
0:58:57 > 0:59:00See you then!