:00:27. > :00:33.And welcome back to Michael. Thank you. Our guest to night is not a
:00:33. > :00:38.person but a whole country. Our audience are Germans, fans of the
:00:38. > :00:44.teams facing each other at Wembley tomorrow. And to get into the mood,
:00:44. > :00:54.we have German names. She is Olex Heinz Steiger Jones. And here's Herr
:00:54. > :00:55.
:00:55. > :01:05.Ball. Do you want to calf. First, a German comedian, Paco Erhard. Paco,
:01:05. > :01:08.
:01:08. > :01:15.how are you? Nice to see you. this reserved? Did you reserve it?
:01:15. > :01:20.It was not me. What do you think about those stereotypes? The beach
:01:20. > :01:25.towels. I would not hate it so much if it were not true. I go on holiday
:01:25. > :01:31.and I see my countrymen do it and I think, what rock did they crawl up
:01:31. > :01:37.under from. I do not know these kind of able back home. But they do
:01:37. > :01:47.exist. They do, and I apologise.The irony is you are wearing a union
:01:47. > :01:53.Jack jacket. I am the most British thing here. Your name is not German.
:01:53. > :02:00.I lived in Spain for eight years. In Spain, they called me Paco. I like
:02:00. > :02:04.it. We know that the Germans are up for a laugh because we spotted these
:02:04. > :02:09.pick jurors in and around London. They have draped towels over the
:02:09. > :02:14.deck chairs, not that you need towels or deckchairs in this
:02:14. > :02:17.weather. This show is not about football but the rivalry between our
:02:18. > :02:23.two great nations. We will be joined by the author of a book called How
:02:23. > :02:28.To Be A Kraut. And Justin Rowlatt, who we sent to live in Germany, with
:02:28. > :02:32.his family for a few weeks. audience will be pleased to know
:02:32. > :02:39.that Germany has just been voted the most popular country on the planet,
:02:39. > :02:49.according to a BBC World Service poll. Where was Wales?I don't know.
:02:49. > :02:55.
:02:55. > :02:59.So should we just lie back and let than us at a variety of things.
:02:59. > :03:03.Great electronics, their beer is among the best in the world, and
:03:03. > :03:07.according to a recent survey they are the most positive about Europe.
:03:07. > :03:15.So, is the answer to our woes to be more like the Germans? Would it
:03:15. > :03:19.stick in your throat to say, I am a Berliner? Germans are known for
:03:19. > :03:23.being productive and efficient. This has helped them grow their
:03:23. > :03:26.manufacturing industry to the powerhouse that it is today. Their
:03:27. > :03:30.schools do better than ours on international league tables, and the
:03:30. > :03:36.official verdict of the United Nations is that they are actually
:03:36. > :03:41.happier than us. So what have they got that we haven't? When we work,
:03:41. > :03:46.we work. Not much small talk and not coughing all the time. Is there
:03:46. > :03:49.anything here you cannot get your head around? I love Britain but
:03:49. > :03:53.things just do not work and everybody seems to accept it, and
:03:54. > :03:59.for a German that is outrageous. Your passion for queueing, we do not
:03:59. > :04:04.share that. The queue means that something is not working. What are
:04:04. > :04:07.the biggest misconceptions about Germany? No sense of humour, not
:04:07. > :04:12.very nice. This is partly because in Germany things are
:04:12. > :04:20.compartmentalised. But the worst misconception is that we like David
:04:20. > :04:27.Hasselhoff. I grow you must like him, because you are German. Call me
:04:27. > :04:31.a Nazi, but don't call me a fan of his. In Germany, and employment is
:04:31. > :04:34.lower, and on the football pitch, we lose again. We won the World Cup
:04:34. > :04:39.once but they have got their hands on it three times. How do they
:04:39. > :04:46.manage it? It is a mixture of luck and tough reforms over the last
:04:46. > :04:49.decade. Germany has benefited from below exchange rate of the euro,
:04:49. > :04:52.which has helped exports and the manufacturing sector. The element of
:04:52. > :04:56.achievement is that Germany and lamented a number of tough reforms
:04:56. > :05:00.over the last decade, which has helped them overcome high
:05:00. > :05:04.unemployment and make the labour market flexible, which has helped to
:05:04. > :05:12.create jobs. So there are some differences, but we also have a lot
:05:12. > :05:22.in common. We love the pub. Our language is closely related. And the
:05:22. > :05:22.
:05:22. > :06:11.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 48 seconds
:06:11. > :06:15.Anglo-Saxons, the forefathers of the they are not perfect. We delivered
:06:15. > :06:22.the Olympics on time and on budget, so Alex, asked the Germans in the
:06:22. > :06:28.studio about how this brand-new airport in Berlin is getting on.
:06:28. > :06:34.will do that. Paco has been joined by former Perlin correspondence of
:06:34. > :06:37.the times, Roger Boyes, and Justin Rowlatt. Paco, what is the deal with
:06:37. > :06:44.the airport? It does not sound as if things are running as efficiently as
:06:44. > :06:51.they should the. I do not know what is going on. As far as I remember,
:06:51. > :06:55.it should have been finished in the early 1970s! To be honest, by now I
:06:55. > :06:58.think it is a scheme by the German government. Everybody in the world
:06:58. > :07:05.is now thinking, thank God, the Germans make steaks, too. They are
:07:06. > :07:15.human after all. Apparently they do not know how to turn off the lights
:07:16. > :07:16.
:07:16. > :07:22.at the airport. Lights on would be a problem. Take the plug out. You
:07:22. > :07:31.wrote a book called How To Be A Kraut. Yes.Do the Germans mind us
:07:31. > :07:35.calling them that? Not if you say it loud enough. It is short for
:07:35. > :07:45.sauerkraut, and they like that, so I do not see the problem. What do they
:07:45. > :07:48.
:07:48. > :07:52.call us? Tommies. Why? Don't mention the war. How do you feel about the
:07:52. > :07:57.result of this poll, saying Germany is the most popular country in the
:07:57. > :08:05.world? We are confused. The last people who liked the Germans are the
:08:05. > :08:09.Germans. Do you deserve it?I think so. When we travel, we basically go
:08:09. > :08:15.around the world saying, I am from Germany but I am not a practising
:08:15. > :08:19.German. We are not comfortable with ourselves. It is weird. The first
:08:20. > :08:24.thing we say, why don't they like us, it is terrible. And then this
:08:24. > :08:31.comes out and we say, have they forgotten the Holocaust? We are
:08:31. > :08:38.awful, stop liking us! We are strange. You like the Germans.
:08:38. > :08:41.like the way they beat themselves up like that. We do, don't we? Justin,
:08:41. > :08:46.you lived in Germany for a documentary we will show in the
:08:47. > :08:51.summer. What were you doing? idea was to live like a German. I
:08:51. > :08:57.got a German flat and job and I worked in a pencil factory. The
:08:57. > :09:02.Germans dominate the world pencil industry, still. They make one sixth
:09:02. > :09:08.of the world's pencils. How big is the pencil industry anyway? We went
:09:08. > :09:13.to work in a pencil factory. I made pencils. We had a little flat in a
:09:13. > :09:23.city called Nuremberg. Let's have a look at him becoming a German
:09:23. > :09:23.
:09:23. > :09:33.worker. It is making 336 pencils each minute. Already, I have made
:09:33. > :09:34.
:09:34. > :09:44.1500 pencils. Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens. We did it.
:09:44. > :09:45.
:09:45. > :09:51.certainly did. The idea was to avoid German stereotypes. The last thing
:09:52. > :09:58.we wanted to do was to make the mistake of having any stereotypes.
:09:58. > :10:01.You had a German baby! That was quick! Tell us about the lederhosen.
:10:01. > :10:10.I was given them and then encouraged to wear them. It is actually quite
:10:11. > :10:14.comfortable. I think I would look good in them. You have got the legs.
:10:14. > :10:21.We have some very handsome lederhosen whereas over there.
:10:21. > :10:25.wife is also there. How different was it? Two thirds of German women
:10:25. > :10:32.stay at home, while just one third of buttons do. You must have been in
:10:32. > :10:36.your element, as a stay at home mum. No, I am a working mum. I always
:10:36. > :10:41.considered Germany and earnest and thoughtful culture but women tend to
:10:41. > :10:45.be nudged out of the working place. I became a reluctant housewife, to
:10:45. > :10:51.my horror. That did not suit me. I loved everything else about Germany
:10:51. > :10:55.but I was not keen to give up the working life. Roger, how do Germans
:10:55. > :11:05.view the British? Though I think they see us as amusing, eccentric
:11:05. > :11:12.losers. But when you get down to it, we are very similar. We are like
:11:12. > :11:14.pale cousins of each other, pale, freckled cousins. We ask the
:11:14. > :11:20.neighbours what they knew about England and they said they heard
:11:20. > :11:27.nothing about written in Germany. It does not really exist on the German
:11:27. > :11:30.map. -- Britain. German newspapers are already complaining about the
:11:30. > :11:35.quality of the food at Wembley for the champions league final. The
:11:35. > :11:43.cheek of it! But can Jay convince them to ditch their bratwurst for
:11:43. > :11:48.some good old bangers vesture Mark know nothing about football, but I
:11:48. > :11:52.do know about sausages. Behind me are a bunch of German football
:11:52. > :12:02.fans. The Germans generally beat us at football, but can we beat them at
:12:02. > :12:02.
:12:02. > :12:05.sausages? An award-winning sausage map made from a recipe going back
:12:06. > :12:15.five generations with lots of herbs and a little bit of spice. Let's see
:12:16. > :12:16.
:12:16. > :12:23.what they make of it. Try my traditional sausage. It is small.
:12:23. > :12:33.How big do you want it to be? Traditional British sausage. You do
:12:33. > :12:34.
:12:34. > :12:43.not like it at all? Tasteless. Tasteless? ! It is dry.What have
:12:43. > :12:50.you been eating? German sausages.I suppose we would call that one nil
:12:50. > :12:58.to you, although I disagree. This is a Cumberland sausage, made from a
:12:58. > :13:05.recipe dating to 1863, 90 5% poor. It is the king of sausages. Let's
:13:05. > :13:14.find out what the Germans think of these. -- 95% poor. I have a sausage
:13:14. > :13:24.that you will love. Would you go so far as to say that you like it?
:13:24. > :13:28.
:13:29. > :13:32.Too much herbs? Is it better than German sausages? No. He says, if you
:13:32. > :13:42.taste the German sausage, you know it is German. It is basically the
:13:42. > :13:47.best in the world. Finally, the Oxford sausage. Like the Cumberland,
:13:48. > :13:57.it dates from 1863, said to be inspired by the city of Oxford. It
:13:57. > :14:03.has a hint of lemon. I wonder what the Germans will make of this one.
:14:03. > :14:13.am a bit scared already. You are scared? I am terrified! What could
:14:13. > :14:17.
:14:17. > :14:27.possibly go wrong? No? Eat the dam sausage! It tastes like a hot dog.
:14:27. > :14:28.
:14:28. > :14:33.Yes or no? No. I did my best. I argued the case. What is the
:14:33. > :14:40.difference between British and German bankers? German sausages tend
:14:40. > :14:44.to be more processed. The other difference is the cooking method, in
:14:44. > :14:54.that most German sausages are poached before being sealed. It is
:14:54. > :14:55.
:14:55. > :14:59.ready good way of cooking. Poached them and then sealed off. I have
:14:59. > :15:04.brought various things in. Don't touch these, they have been on the
:15:04. > :15:08.set for a while. The currywurst -800 million of these sold every year.
:15:08. > :15:11.The Germans have the bookish to thank for this, because it was a
:15:11. > :15:16.German who got the ingredients for the source ash Worcester sauce,
:15:16. > :15:21.curry powder and ketchup, from the British forces in 1949 in Germany
:15:21. > :15:27.will stop if not for the British, we would never have had a currywurst.
:15:27. > :15:37.You can't go wrong with one of those, surely. Pass it over here.
:15:37. > :15:46.
:15:46. > :15:52.What else have you brought? . is a black first Gato full stop it
:15:52. > :15:59.is a very serious tech. -- a black forest Gato. It has to contain
:15:59. > :16:04.Kish. It was the pudding of choice in the 70s. It has come back into
:16:04. > :16:10.fashion. Justin, while you were in Germany, what did you think of the
:16:10. > :16:14.quality of the food? There is some really good food in Germany. There
:16:14. > :16:21.is more variety than I expected. There are a lot of heavy stews and
:16:21. > :16:28.sausages. I think British sausages are better. I think the Germans
:16:28. > :16:34.overprocessed bears. But there is some good food in Germany. They have
:16:34. > :16:43.their own pizzas and noodle dishes. It is a very diverse cuisine.
:16:43. > :16:47.you agree? Yeah. It is a very rural place. The idea of farmers' markets
:16:47. > :16:54.started in Germany. We think we are at the cutting edge, but the Germans
:16:54. > :17:01.were there first. You can get really fresh chicken. Still alive?Yeah!
:17:01. > :17:06.sauerkraut still popular? It is. Growing up, I had it about four
:17:06. > :17:13.times in my life, and I hated it. Sauerkraut is fantastic. Then you
:17:13. > :17:18.are more German than I am. It smells very strong. It can be nice, but the
:17:18. > :17:24.French do it better. We may not have persuaded any Germans or these guys
:17:24. > :17:27.here to give up their bratwurst, in favour of the British banger, but
:17:27. > :17:34.when it comes to gardens, the only innovation you have given us is the
:17:34. > :17:37.gnome. Thanks for that, Paco. Christine is back at the Chelsea
:17:37. > :17:41.Flower Show with their winner of the One Show garden competition.
:17:41. > :17:44.annual Chelsea Flower Show in London brings together the creme de la
:17:44. > :17:50.creme of horticulture, with top designers and growers from all over
:17:50. > :17:56.the world. I think this is the ideal place to meet our competition winner
:17:56. > :18:03.to see the journey she must go on to create her garden at the RHS Hampton
:18:03. > :18:07.Court Palace flower show. The key's design beat of nearly 300 entries in
:18:07. > :18:11.our competition. Hers is a family garden, designed with imagination
:18:11. > :18:17.high on the agenda. It is designed to make you feel like you have been
:18:17. > :18:20.shrunk and are looking up from the first floor. I want the garden to be
:18:20. > :18:27.achievable for anybody and for it to have a lively colour scheme and be
:18:27. > :18:29.practical for a family. As she makes her way around a family show, she is
:18:29. > :18:34.sketching some of the design features she might be able to draw
:18:34. > :18:39.inspiration from, and other features which are not even in the show. Have
:18:39. > :18:47.you lost the plot? What are you doing? This tree has an interesting
:18:47. > :18:50.texture. The tree roots look old and mossy. The key's show garden will be
:18:50. > :18:55.eight metres by eight metres, a lot smaller than some of those she has
:18:55. > :18:59.seen today. I think we will have to rein Vicky in. Some of these gardens
:18:59. > :19:04.have budgets that run into six figures. Hers is a lot smaller. I
:19:04. > :19:14.have a few ideas that might suit her budget. I know this is not on your
:19:14. > :19:19.list, but I want to introduce you to this. Isn't that beautiful? I love
:19:19. > :19:25.the coral pink ones. It works so well as a sea of colour. This could
:19:25. > :19:30.give the effect you want, and be really powerful and colourful. Look
:19:30. > :19:37.at the oranges. They work really well up high. They can go on the
:19:37. > :19:44.list. Especially keeping one. could be ideal for Vicky's garden.
:19:44. > :19:50.They provide real height and drama. What about the tree fern? It would
:19:50. > :19:54.give the feeling of thing an insect looking up. But it is not extra and
:19:54. > :19:57.colour that Vicky once in her garden. She is also have to flavour,
:19:57. > :20:02.as she believes it is important for children to understand where their
:20:02. > :20:11.food comes from. These plants have all been grown by children. You
:20:11. > :20:18.mentioned strawberries. Look at that. They are beautiful.We could
:20:18. > :20:28.also incorporate the ferny foliage of carrots. What about this
:20:28. > :20:31.
:20:31. > :20:38.humdinger? This is a new chive. Chelsea has provided Vicky with lots
:20:38. > :20:44.of new ideas, but will they meet the approval of design guru and frost?
:20:44. > :20:48.He won the gold medal at this year's show and is Vicky's mentor.
:20:48. > :20:55.What have you been up to? I hope you have not been leading her straight?
:20:55. > :21:01.Would I? You would, because you are mad about plants. You two might have
:21:01. > :21:05.blown the budget. It is not that bad. We have some solid ideas.
:21:05. > :21:11.Christine said it would be a good idea to have some firms in the
:21:11. > :21:18.garden. I am not keen on them, but we found a nice purple one. It would
:21:18. > :21:28.be nice in the Borders. I am pleased with that. The backdrop needs to be
:21:28. > :21:30.
:21:30. > :21:40.simple. We will keep it simple in the foreground, with colour in the
:21:40. > :21:50.centre. What have you learned about design today? Flowing, elegant.You
:21:50. > :21:53.
:21:53. > :21:58.are flirting! I think today has been brilliant. You have started to focus
:21:58. > :22:05.on understanding how show gardens work. There is a sense of theatre.
:22:05. > :22:09.They are capturing that moment. Thank you to Christine and Adam. We
:22:09. > :22:13.look forward to seeing Vicky's final design in July.
:22:13. > :22:17.Now, I don't know about Germans, but British fishermen are rightly proud
:22:17. > :22:24.of the Pike, a powerful freshwater fish which Miranda has had a close
:22:24. > :22:31.up view of. I do know of the dad's Army Pike.
:22:31. > :22:34.In the heart of Leicestershire is a flooded quarry, the deep cold waters
:22:34. > :22:40.of Stoney Cove hide one of Britain's's most fearsome
:22:40. > :22:44.predators, the Pike. Primarily a predator of other fish, and very
:22:44. > :22:49.capable of snatching ducklings and even water voles. To find out more,
:22:49. > :22:55.I am meeting underwater cameramen been Berman, who has a passion for
:22:55. > :23:00.Pike. How long have you been diving with Pike, and what is it about
:23:00. > :23:03.their aggressive behaviour? Are they really that aggressive? I have been
:23:03. > :23:07.diving with Pike for about 12 years and I have been filming them for
:23:07. > :23:12.seven years. They are aggressive, territorial and cannibalistic. But
:23:12. > :23:15.at this time of year, they are more sociable. Today, we are on a mission
:23:15. > :23:21.to film these incredible fish and hopefully witness their courtship
:23:21. > :23:31.display. The longer days of spring and a rising water temperature
:23:31. > :23:34.
:23:34. > :23:40.motivate the Pike to congregate here in the shallows. I am following you.
:23:40. > :23:50.As, look at this. It is going to check us out. Absolutely beautiful,
:23:50. > :23:52.
:23:52. > :23:59.streamlined fish. Pikes have this unmistakable shape, these fierce
:23:59. > :24:02.eyes, that mean looking jaw. One flick of that meaty, muscular tail,
:24:02. > :24:12.and they have a lightning fast acceleration, all the things you
:24:12. > :24:12.
:24:12. > :24:22.need to be a top predator. There is a male. Anything over 12 lbs is a
:24:22. > :24:26.
:24:26. > :24:35.female. They can grow well over a metre long. Amazing.Here we go.
:24:35. > :24:41.Some are courting. Two males and a female. The Finns are enticing the
:24:41. > :24:48.female to shed her eggs. The female will try to pick the best mail to
:24:48. > :24:51.carry on the generation. This could last for days. Seeing this small
:24:51. > :25:01.courting group has been a treat, but that display is small fry compared
:25:01. > :25:08.to what you can find. So I am off in search of bigger, better things. We
:25:08. > :25:18.have two here in front of us. No, three. The males certainly look a
:25:18. > :25:23.bit battered. I am going to sit really still. Just one cursory
:25:23. > :25:32.glance, and they are off. What an amazing thing to see. Here she
:25:32. > :25:42.comes, with her entourage. The males are nipping each other, just link
:25:42. > :25:44.
:25:44. > :25:50.for the best position. The female will lay thousands of eggs. They are
:25:50. > :25:59.such big, scary fish, and yet their courtship is so beautifully gentle.
:25:59. > :26:05.What a lovely film. Justin, you are a brave man. I am surrounded.This
:26:05. > :26:13.is the new England football kit. Celebrating 150 years. Reminds me of
:26:13. > :26:18.something. Is that 1966? I don't know if you have heard of 1966?
:26:18. > :26:23.that the last time England did something? You went to a football
:26:23. > :26:33.match? It was by Munich versus Hamburg, and it was 9-2 to Bayern
:26:33. > :26:37.
:26:37. > :26:42.Munich. It was an amazing game. It got rather predict Apple. Five
:26:42. > :26:51.minutes later, there would be another goal. Justin, we have got
:26:51. > :27:01.some fans here. Give us a cheer. it going to be 9-2 tomorrow? I hope
:27:01. > :27:06.not. The last time, it was 5-2. are big Dortmund fan. You have flown
:27:06. > :27:12.over with Stephan. And you flew over without a ticket to the match?
:27:12. > :27:16.Exactly. Have you managed to get one? Now I have managed to get one.
:27:16. > :27:22.This today I did not have one, but today I knew somebody who had a
:27:22. > :27:28.ticket. What do you think of London? It is raining, but it is great.
:27:28. > :27:34.very rarely rains(!). I anticipated a German final, so that was why I
:27:34. > :27:40.booked the flight tickets before the semi-final. Good planning. Very
:27:40. > :27:47.German. Do you feel a bit outnumbered, because there are quite
:27:47. > :27:52.a few Bayern Munich fans here tonight? You are one of them. Tell
:27:52. > :27:59.us how you will be watching the game tomorrow. We own a Bavarian
:27:59. > :28:05.restaurant in Kingston, and we have invited all of the German community
:28:05. > :28:10.to watch it on German TV. Do you think you will be celebrating?
:28:10. > :28:19.will be celebrating anyway! It will be a good atmosphere. Have a great
:28:19. > :28:26.time. I will have a bit of this.Who are you supporting? Bayern Munich
:28:26. > :28:30.all the way. No President Obama would be complete without some
:28:30. > :28:36.traditional music, as we bid you Auf Wiedersehen come accompanied by the
:28:36. > :28:39.High Society group macro. Monday's show is on half an hour earlier at
:28:39. > :28:45.6:30pm, when we will be joined by Nigel heathers and Suzi Perry. Thank
:28:45. > :28:50.you to our guest tonight. You can see a preview of Paco's Edinburgh