:00:23. > :00:26.Alex Jones and Matt Baker. Tonight's guest is not here to talk about his
:00:26. > :00:30.showbiz career or his ability to churn out hit musical after hit
:00:30. > :00:39.musical. The night he slips into a very different role and he's not
:00:39. > :00:43.afraid to ruffle feathers along the way. It is Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber.
:00:43. > :00:48.Wonderful to see you, as always. Putting party politics aside...
:00:48. > :00:58.don't like the word churning out musicals estimation mark you deliver
:00:58. > :00:58.
:00:59. > :01:03.powers that be do with music in schools? The interesting thing,
:01:03. > :01:08.music, when it comes into schools, can be the most extraordinary common
:01:08. > :01:12.denominator. It can take kids into the academic world in a way that
:01:12. > :01:17.other things can't. The school I'm talking about is Highbury Grove in
:01:17. > :01:21.Islington. They have the most remarkable programme. I think the
:01:21. > :01:26.headmistress would say that five or six years ago, when she took it
:01:26. > :01:30.over, it was one of the schools that would have been considered to be
:01:30. > :01:34.practically off the radar. Through music, it was turned around. You may
:01:34. > :01:38.ask why or how that happened. The most extraordinary thing to me is
:01:38. > :01:46.that the kids would get a violin. I would think, it is something
:01:46. > :01:53.tactile. You own a violin and, through them, you can learn maths.
:01:53. > :01:58.can relate to that. I have no idea if the programme can be rolled out
:01:58. > :02:02.hugely. That I feel is an incredibly useful experiment to look at.
:02:02. > :02:07.will talk more about this later on. We have some of these children from
:02:07. > :02:12.Highbury Grove here. On a different note, it is exciting because we have
:02:12. > :02:16.a hot tub outside this evening. Did you bring your swimming costume?
:02:16. > :02:26.Personally, I didn't. It will probably be good for me, I have lots
:02:26. > :02:26.
:02:26. > :02:31.of problems with my back. We will not get into that! Your cat swims?I
:02:31. > :02:37.have two swimming Turkish cats. They are lovely. Why did you get a
:02:37. > :02:46.swimming Turkish cat? Do you have a swimming pool at home? They are
:02:46. > :02:49.extraordinary Cats. You have got one on the screen. They come from the
:02:50. > :02:56.eastern side of Turkey. Mine have not been swimming as much as I would
:02:56. > :03:05.have liked, but they are astonishing animals. The alternate coloured
:03:05. > :03:15.eyes. One has blue and yellow. The Daily Mail, there was an article
:03:15. > :03:17.
:03:17. > :03:20.about a cat called Oscar. He was given an ASBO order. He attacked an
:03:20. > :03:27.old-age pensioner. I kept the article and I looked at the picture
:03:27. > :03:30.of it. I thought, I know that cat, it is a Turkish cat. I discovered it
:03:30. > :03:40.was a full brother of mine explanation mark they are lovely,
:03:40. > :03:40.
:03:40. > :03:44.they do get on well with dogs. They are terrific cats. Plans are afoot
:03:44. > :03:47.to start educating children about how to manage money in an attempt to
:03:47. > :03:54.stop them from falling into a cycle of debt. But how would you fair
:03:54. > :03:57.sitting an exam on your finances? I'm sure you would want to get top
:03:57. > :04:02.marks, especially if your teacher was Anne Donnelly.
:04:02. > :04:06.If you are trying to get a car, getting a loan, managing your family
:04:06. > :04:09.budget or sorting out a mobile phone contract, we are all faced with
:04:09. > :04:17.endless decisions about our personal finances pretty much every day of
:04:17. > :04:21.our lives. But are we as good at getting the best deals as we think?
:04:21. > :04:27.One survey found that 43% of us don't know what common financial
:04:27. > :04:31.terms like PPI and APR mean. Maybe we could do with a few lessons to
:04:31. > :04:36.help us make better decisions? Tracy bleakly has been campaigning to make
:04:36. > :04:41.financial education compulsory. That's so schoolchildren can tackle
:04:41. > :04:46.real-life money problems like this. You are going on holiday, you have
:04:46. > :04:54.�800 spending money and you want to change it into foreign currency. You
:04:54. > :05:00.have two options, a flat fee of commission, for pounds. Or you can
:05:00. > :05:09.pay 0.6% commission on �800. Which do you want to choose? This is
:05:09. > :05:19.tricky. First, we divide 0.6 by 100, to get the multiplier. Multiply that
:05:19. > :05:20.
:05:20. > :05:30.by 800. That equals �4.80. Which do you want to choose? The flat rate,
:05:30. > :05:30.
:05:30. > :05:34.unlike Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, have not had to learn about
:05:35. > :05:38.managing their money. But that is about to change. The government
:05:38. > :05:42.wants to make sure that the next generation of consumers are more
:05:42. > :05:46.financially savvy than their parents by making personal financial
:05:46. > :05:52.education compulsory. But how ropey are our financial skills? Time to
:05:52. > :05:56.put some mums and dads to the test. These parents in Reading have agreed
:05:56. > :06:00.to set an hour-long test. They will have to grapple with nine money
:06:00. > :06:05.problems. Just the kind of questions that will feature as part of the
:06:05. > :06:09.maths GCSE exam in future. I think I'm all right at my own money, but
:06:09. > :06:14.I'm not very good at maths. The thought of a maths test is a bit
:06:15. > :06:18.scary. Are you feeling confident? should be, I work for a bank! In a
:06:18. > :06:21.call centre, so I'm good with finances. The questions cover
:06:21. > :06:26.everything from wages and taxes to credit, debt and managing your
:06:26. > :06:34.bills. You have one hour to complete the paper. Exam conditions, please.
:06:34. > :06:42.Begin the tests! Personal finance education would become part of the
:06:42. > :06:49.national curriculum in England from September next year. These questions
:06:49. > :06:52.are pretty tough. I could do with a bit of revision myself. Isn't GCSE a
:06:52. > :06:56.little bit young to be finding out about all of these horrible
:06:56. > :07:00.financial realities? It's never too young. We speak to young people and
:07:00. > :07:06.they tell us, my mum and dad get their money from the supermarket on
:07:06. > :07:08.a Saturday morning. We really need to start early with those concept
:07:09. > :07:17.software money comes from, how do you live within your means, how do
:07:17. > :07:21.you make decisions? Back in the exam hall, our parents are out of time.
:07:21. > :07:26.The teachers doing the marketing are being ruthless with their green
:07:26. > :07:36.pen. It's time for volunteers to find out how they got on. --
:07:36. > :07:38.
:07:38. > :07:42.marking. The results are in and it's unclassified, scoring below 40%. Top
:07:42. > :07:52.of the class was church minister Alison, who got more than 90%. She
:07:52. > :07:56.
:07:56. > :07:59.beat bank worker Richard, who got a A. Are you surprised? I am, but when
:07:59. > :08:06.I started doing the questions I realised it was stuff I do every
:08:06. > :08:13.day. I got a C. Some of it, I thought I knew how to do it, but I
:08:13. > :08:16.obviously didn't. How much of a difference is this going to make?
:08:16. > :08:19.It's a game changer, getting financial education onto the
:08:19. > :08:23.national curriculum. We could afford to make mistakes a generation ago.
:08:24. > :08:27.We didn't have to take on debt to go to university, it was easier to get
:08:27. > :08:32.onto the housing ladder. Young people are not in that position. It
:08:32. > :08:38.is a different world. To be able to not just survive but to thrive, they
:08:38. > :08:41.need the skills to do well. If you fancy seeing how you would get on,
:08:41. > :08:49.just for fun, there are some of the questions on the website. We will
:08:49. > :08:52.put the answers on next week. Anyway, Martin Lewis is here. As a
:08:52. > :08:56.money-saving expert, you wanted your say. You have been working for a
:08:56. > :09:01.long time to get it onto the curriculum, Wales, Scotland and
:09:01. > :09:04.Northern Ireland already have it? They have a form of it. I'd like to
:09:04. > :09:14.thank everybody that signed my petition, that got it debated in
:09:14. > :09:17.
:09:17. > :09:20.Parliament. We've been actively come -- campaigning. Many MPs joined it.
:09:20. > :09:27.We are going to have financial numerous Yaz part of the mathematics
:09:27. > :09:30.curriculum. We are going to teach attitudes to money and finance. When
:09:31. > :09:35.it might be wrong to borrow, instead of just how much it costs to
:09:35. > :09:39.borrow. It's a brilliant idea, but things change so quickly, are the
:09:39. > :09:45.things that the pupils are learning going to be relevant when they are
:09:45. > :09:48.adults? Let's use a musical analogy. If you learn how to play music,
:09:48. > :09:54.while styles might change, the fact that you got the tools to deal with
:09:54. > :10:00.it, that lasts you for life. learn to play the violin, you have
:10:00. > :10:07.to learn the note values of certain things. Then you have dotted rhythms
:10:07. > :10:10.and you begin to realise how it relates to maths. I think what you
:10:10. > :10:16.are doing is very exciting and very interesting. I would be very
:10:16. > :10:22.grateful for some lessons from you. Do the test on the website. You
:10:22. > :10:29.could do that. Well, I will try. I'll be hopeless. For 21 years in
:10:29. > :10:32.this country we have educated our youth into taking debt when they go
:10:32. > :10:36.to university without educating them about debt. I started this three
:10:37. > :10:42.years ago by challenging MPs, when they put tuition fees up, whether
:10:42. > :10:47.you like or don't like what happened, at least let children
:10:47. > :10:50.understand it. Student loans Lou at people towards different types of
:10:50. > :10:57.borrowing, they didn't see the difference between good debt and bad
:10:57. > :11:04.debt. That is why we need to break the cycle of borrowing. Parents at
:11:04. > :11:09.home being a bit more open about it? Talk to your kids. I've once been to
:11:09. > :11:13.school and talk to them for a day, then they went home and saved their
:11:13. > :11:19.parents �5,000. This is what it can do, we will reap the benefits, less
:11:19. > :11:23.mis-selling, less people in debt, I cross my fingers. You are obviously
:11:23. > :11:29.passionate about it. Thank you. How do you solve a problem like a bad
:11:29. > :11:32.Ofsted report? Headteacher Truda White faced that problem in 2000.
:11:32. > :11:42.Seven years later, her school went from poor to outstanding. And she
:11:42. > :11:42.
:11:42. > :11:48.did it using the Sound of music. My name is Ryan, I play the violin.
:11:48. > :11:51.I am Carlos and I play the clarinet. Seven years ago we
:11:51. > :11:53.introduced a scheme that allowed children who wanted to play a
:11:53. > :11:59.classical instrument the opportunity, without them having to
:11:59. > :12:04.pay the stop my mum was excited, because nobody in my family played a
:12:04. > :12:08.classical instrument. It was to improve discipline, because children
:12:08. > :12:11.have to practice and rehearse. It was to improve relationships,
:12:11. > :12:15.because they have to learn to work together. I have learned to bond
:12:15. > :12:21.with people. I know a lot of people in the older and younger years.
:12:21. > :12:24.was also to get a better focus on the academic and working hard.
:12:24. > :12:29.is a lot of commitment involved in playing the clarinet. Once you have
:12:29. > :12:34.done it, it's a great sense of achievement. The biggest success is
:12:34. > :12:37.that children want to come to school. You can be unique, you don't
:12:37. > :12:47.have to be perfect. I'm doing something after school and it is
:12:47. > :12:52.
:12:52. > :12:59.Grove are in the studio. Give yourselves a big round of applause.
:12:59. > :13:05.Inspiring. We have seen and heard how this can help. How do you want
:13:05. > :13:10.to take this on? The thrilling thing, as Trudy said, is the amazing
:13:10. > :13:16.way that music can help in education, in the widest possible
:13:16. > :13:20.sense. I don't think anybody saying, what should do in a programme like
:13:20. > :13:26.this kind is to necessarily find the latest and greatest musicians,
:13:26. > :13:30.concert pianist or violinist. But what we are saying is that through
:13:30. > :13:37.music you can understand, as we were talking about earlier, how maths
:13:37. > :13:42.works, Highbury Grove has 52 languages... Am I right? Something
:13:42. > :13:46.like that. But there is a common dominator. It cuts across all
:13:46. > :13:51.faiths, ethnic backgrounds. Taking away the choice, that is key for
:13:51. > :13:59.you? The real point is that music can be an incredible comedy
:13:59. > :14:08.nominator in education. Think we have seen it in Latin America. It is
:14:08. > :14:12.having a success here as well. The model I would like to see rolled out
:14:12. > :14:17.in schools is not about saying that we are trying to produce performers,
:14:17. > :14:21.it is just that music is this great common denominator that can heighten
:14:21. > :14:24.educational values. And social values as well. That is another very
:14:24. > :14:32.important point. That was brilliantly said by Trudy in that
:14:32. > :14:36.video. Good luck. Well, we have enjoyed lots of musical performances
:14:36. > :14:43.on The One Show over the years. Who can forget Michael Buble? What about
:14:43. > :14:46.Brian Wilson? The less said about him the better! And night we have
:14:46. > :14:56.managed to get a symphony orchestra to perform, thanks to Cerys
:14:56. > :15:00.
:15:00. > :15:10.A mythical sound promising the warmth and sunshine of spring. The
:15:10. > :15:10.
:15:10. > :15:17.ku koo is a bird which knows two notes. Delius, famous for his
:15:17. > :15:23.orchestral piece on hearing the first of spring. Born in 1862
:15:23. > :15:28.Delius grew up in Bradford. A boom town, shrouded in smoke. His dad
:15:28. > :15:33.was an immigrant, who ran a prosperous company. He was the son
:15:33. > :15:38.of a military officer. He adopted this kind of attitude to his
:15:38. > :15:42.children. He would line them up in the street of Bradford if he saw
:15:42. > :15:46.them and inspect them. His reputation was such that the
:15:46. > :15:51.shopkeepers when they saw Julius coming would hide the children from
:15:52. > :15:58.here. There is the story that at the age of eight, Delius and his
:15:58. > :16:02.older brother, Ernest stuffed their pockets full of sweets and ran away
:16:02. > :16:08.to Ilkley. He found great escape here, didn't he? He certainly did.
:16:08. > :16:14.He said that the moors had inspired most of his work. For Delius,
:16:14. > :16:18.Ilkley Moor represented freedom, from his repressive home life and
:16:18. > :16:22.his father. You can imagine him loving it here. It is perfect for
:16:22. > :16:26.children, isn't it? It is perfect. This is where Dell Dell would have
:16:26. > :16:33.come with his dog -- where Delius would have come with his dog and
:16:33. > :16:43.walked. He adored the sound of birds T story goes from the trees
:16:43. > :16:43.
:16:43. > :16:51.from over there he heard the cuckoo. You don't forget that kind of
:16:51. > :16:55.moment. You don't forget moments like that. The warm weather coming.
:16:55. > :16:59.You can go outside. You can go and play with your friends. As Dell
:16:59. > :17:09.Dell grew up, the battle with his - - as Delius grew up, the battle
:17:09. > :17:14.with his father went on. He gave up his job in the family
:17:14. > :17:19.business in favour of composing. We are bringing music back to the moor.
:17:19. > :17:26.Classical music goes extreme. Here it is, especially for the One Show,
:17:26. > :17:36.on hearing the first cuckoo in spring, performed by the Leeds
:17:36. > :17:36.
:17:36. > :17:45.symphony orchestra n the place that first inspired Delius.
:17:45. > :17:54.He lets it unfold so slowly. He it's quite daring, isn't it?
:17:54. > :17:58.is. It's a subtle piece of music. He's captured the feelings. It's as
:17:58. > :18:04.if he's returning to the moors and you can hear and you can see and
:18:05. > :18:11.you can smell the landscape of Delius's childhood. It is so
:18:11. > :18:15.delicate - it's expressionist. Some people might not like it. Some
:18:15. > :18:25.people love his music, others hate it. For me, it belongs to this
:18:25. > :18:36.
:18:36. > :18:42.That's the cuckoo coming back. Then it gradually fades away.
:18:42. > :18:46.It's amazing because it comes out of such an abstract piece of music.
:18:46. > :18:56.Just the sound of a cuckoo. Quite hard to make that work. Very, very
:18:56. > :19:03.
:19:03. > :19:11.Delius's relationship with his father remained fractious. Julius
:19:11. > :19:15.never attended any of Frederick's concerts it is a shame because he
:19:15. > :19:25.probably never realised his boy had picked up on something beautiful,
:19:25. > :19:41.
:19:41. > :19:47.which would outlive the smoking # On Ilkley Moor #
:19:47. > :19:54.APPLAUSE Lovely!
:19:54. > :19:59.It's lovely to be back. I have to give big applause to the orchestra
:19:59. > :20:06.there who took the big instruments up... It was blowing a gale. You
:20:06. > :20:13.could not see it from there. Extreme classical music.
:20:13. > :20:19.Was there a harpist? She said, "No, I'm not doing that!
:20:19. > :20:23."William Wordsworth - inspired by the cuckoo. He described it as a
:20:23. > :20:31.mysterious bird, because you often hear it and don't see it. It is
:20:31. > :20:38.true these days because they have been in a number of years now. Oh,
:20:38. > :20:43.cuckoo, shall I call these a bird or a wandering voice. Darling of
:20:43. > :20:49.the spring. You are to me no bird, other than an invisible thing. A
:20:49. > :20:52.voice, a mystery. He gets it exactly.
:20:52. > :21:01.You have something for Andrew as well. See if you know this one,
:21:01. > :21:08.Andrew. Macaverty. There's no-one like
:21:08. > :21:17.Macavety. He's broken every single law. He breaks the law of gravity.
:21:17. > :21:25.Cats! I've always wanted to have a sign saying McCavety - wanted for
:21:25. > :21:32.everything. He was such a bad, naughty cat.
:21:32. > :21:36.Eliot was writing those poems for fun, he was sending them on.
:21:37. > :21:43.old were you when you heard it? guess my mother read them to me at
:21:43. > :21:53.seven or eight. I still have the original books. Was it hard to put
:21:53. > :21:54.
:21:54. > :21:59.music to them? I thought to start it might be like Peter and the Wolf.
:21:59. > :22:07.Valerie Eliot, when I did the first sing-through, she found things that
:22:07. > :22:10.TS Eliot wrote. One of them was the story of Isabella the Glamour Cat.
:22:10. > :22:15.It was extraordinary really. The other was a letter in which he said
:22:15. > :22:20.he had an idea for a theatrical event, that all the cats would go
:22:21. > :22:26.to the heavy side, past the Russell Hotel. I thought, oh, maybe I have
:22:26. > :22:36.stumbled on a theatre show. This crazy event trying to turn human
:22:36. > :22:43.beings into cats. It worked for 21 years, Andrew!
:22:43. > :22:52.Cerys will get back on the guitar now. See if you reg niz them. Hsh
:22:52. > :22:57.beware the -- recognise them. Beware the savage draw of 1984".
:22:57. > :23:06.That is David Bowie. We started in the moors, which was
:23:06. > :23:16.not so far from where the Bronte sisters used to live. Hsh
:23:16. > :23:23.
:23:23. > :23:29.Heathcliffe, it's me, I'm Cathy. You have to sing it higher. She was
:23:29. > :23:37.about 16 when she sang it. A beautiful song.
:23:37. > :23:42.Thank you. Come back soon with your guitar. Please, yes.This week's
:23:42. > :23:47.survey claims 20% of people in the West Midlands own a hot tub.
:23:47. > :23:52.you sure about that? I don't know anybody who owns one. Mine is
:23:53. > :24:00.broken! Some one show viewers are hot tub
:24:00. > :24:04.own -- One Show viewers are hot tub owners and they love them. We had
:24:04. > :24:10.it two Christmases ago. We thought it would be nice to have something
:24:10. > :24:18.which involves family and friends. My son does his studying for A-
:24:18. > :24:22.levels. He attempts to float his books. He has a fabulous fab. I
:24:22. > :24:30.have a group that comes on a Thursday. We like to discuss what
:24:30. > :24:36.happens in the village. Yes, it is us involved, no men or cars. My
:24:36. > :24:40.husband and I and the two children, to watch a movie, we set it up on
:24:40. > :24:46.the laptop. The arguments happen about what movie we are going to
:24:46. > :24:56.watch. It turns into a five-hour argument about whether it is action,
:24:56. > :25:04.adventure or rom-com. I like a floating game. I bought back gammon
:25:04. > :25:10.and ducks that light up. We started to play duck Jenga
:25:10. > :25:16.because we have so many. I first brought one a few years ago. Sadly
:25:16. > :25:22.I lost my wife two years ago through breast cancer. I kept the
:25:22. > :25:27.hot tub going, like we used to. I have a speed boat. I have a little
:25:27. > :25:33.electronic jet ski. I have a submarine.
:25:33. > :25:37.Lovely! We first got in the habit when we were skiing in America. She
:25:37. > :25:42.always want it to snow in this country while we were in the hot
:25:42. > :25:47.tub. It never happened. Just before she passed away, I had an idea to
:25:47. > :25:53.go off and I bought a snow machine. I set it up the night before and
:25:53. > :26:01.this noise in the quiet of the night just went "bruu". It started
:26:01. > :26:04.to hum away. She broke me up and said, "What's that noise?" when she
:26:04. > :26:10.looked out the garden was covered in snow. There was snow falling
:26:10. > :26:20.down. Needless to say, Christmas morning, we sat in the hot tub,
:26:20. > :26:23.
:26:23. > :26:27.Got the hot tub about a year ago. No matter what the weather, we will
:26:27. > :26:32.be out here first thing in the morning before breakfast with a cup
:26:32. > :26:39.of tea. We have the iPad in the hot tub. It
:26:39. > :26:46.is really good, because I have an app that attracts planes. You can
:26:46. > :26:50.see where they are. I have another that plots the night sky. We have
:26:50. > :26:59.increased our knowledge of the stars and the other night, we were
:26:59. > :27:03.sitting here and I saw what can be described as a yellow shape hanging
:27:03. > :27:10.in the sky. We are being invaded by aliens and we are in the hot tub
:27:10. > :27:15.and we are probably the only people on earth who know we are doomed. It
:27:15. > :27:21.was a street light! Once we realised what it was, we felt
:27:21. > :27:28.incredibly foolish! That is what hot tubs do to your
:27:28. > :27:36.brain - I'm not sure! We did say somebody would be in the
:27:37. > :27:46.hot tub and that somebody is John. Is it nice in there? 37. Not too
:27:47. > :27:48.
:27:48. > :27:51.hot, not too cold. It is perfect for your bad back. I had one of the
:27:51. > :27:56.greatest Jacuzzis in Britain. My wife said, we are getting rid of
:27:56. > :28:04.that. I asked why. She said she heard that in the old days all the
:28:04. > :28:07.kids came down and went into it. Who has the best... Who were you
:28:07. > :28:11.beaten by? I will not say on the programme!
:28:11. > :28:17.What we want to know then, it's been a glorious few days, John -
:28:17. > :28:23.how is the forecast looking for the weekend? You show now that every
:28:23. > :28:26.time you ask me on the One Show it is dodgy. It's all about that jet
:28:26. > :28:30.stream. I am afraid things are on the slide
:28:30. > :28:34.at the moment. Although it has been 22 Celsius in
:28:34. > :28:41.London today, it has been cold up north. That will spread down across
:28:41. > :28:46.the UK over the next few hours. In some places it will be ten Celsius
:28:46. > :28:50.colder than it has been at the moment. We may see frost and may