:00:30. > :00:38.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones. We
:00:38. > :00:43.are spending this evening with old friends. We are helping two beetle
:00:43. > :00:52.finds to reunite after 40 years -- two Beatles fans. Lynne! We are
:00:52. > :00:56.doing our best to help a stranded ship 's captain from Russia get back
:00:56. > :01:00.to where he once belonged more were his friends and family are waiting
:01:00. > :01:07.for him. Melanie Chisholm is popping in to
:01:07. > :01:11.see us later. And top of the bill, a man anybody
:01:11. > :01:15.would be delighted to have knocking on their front door with a bottle of
:01:15. > :01:21.wine and someone the full stories. It is the one and only Ronnie
:01:21. > :01:30.Corbett. # I want to hold your hand.
:01:30. > :01:41.Thank you to the Ultimate Beatles. That was the national -- natural
:01:41. > :01:47.mover in me bubbling out. You are a fan of the Beatles? Indeed I am. I
:01:47. > :01:51.grew up with them. Well, I didn't grow much, but I was around with
:01:51. > :01:59.them. Favourite song? Now you are catching me. You like them all. That
:01:59. > :02:04.was a good one, I want to hold your hand. Was that what it was? Well,
:02:04. > :02:08.obviously, you have had a wonderful career, working with a huge array of
:02:08. > :02:13.stars, but it is of course the two Ronnies that takes some beating. Up
:02:13. > :02:19.to 17 million viewers tuned in to watch you both light up our screens
:02:19. > :02:22.in the 70s and 80s, a time Ronnie is remembering in a new documentary
:02:22. > :02:25.series starting tonight. In honour of the two Ronnies, we are giving
:02:25. > :02:30.you at home your chance to vote for your favourite two Ronnies sketch.
:02:30. > :02:35.This is why we remember them with such affection. I was seven or eight
:02:35. > :02:45.when I started watching them and really appreciating the humour.
:02:45. > :02:52.Anybody that? Good morning. Their timing and everything was perfect. I
:02:52. > :03:01.only wear them for reading and seeing things. Especially when
:03:01. > :03:12.Ronnie Barker is on all fours. I remember doing that myself. Is there
:03:12. > :03:18.a dog in here? You sat around and watched it. I would like a tin of
:03:18. > :03:23.beans. It was almost a tongue twister. Beans and ticking, beans
:03:23. > :03:35.and Frankfurt, hamburger, steak burger, cheeseburger... Ronnie
:03:35. > :03:46.Corbett was so small, and most of my family are tiny. Hello, I want to
:03:46. > :03:53.join the library. They took things to extremes. It was funny. Please
:03:53. > :04:02.tell this gentleman not to shout. What? They say it as it is. As soon
:04:02. > :04:11.as they come on, people say, that is life. I will have a pint of... Pint
:04:11. > :04:20.of bitter. They played off each other brilliantly. With pride.
:04:20. > :04:38.Within reason. With your overcoat on. No. It's just hooks you in. It
:04:38. > :04:43.is just hilarious. They are a joy. Some of the nation's favourites
:04:43. > :04:46.that. We watched some classics back on the internet earlier. I know
:04:46. > :04:50.everyone asks you about four candles, but is it true that you
:04:50. > :04:57.could not get through the rehearsals without laughing every time? Yes.
:04:57. > :05:02.Irresistible piece of fun, isn't it? And of course, Ron wrote it
:05:02. > :05:12.following a letter he got from a man in the hardware business who was
:05:12. > :05:15.asked to fork handles. It is a true story, based on that
:05:15. > :05:20.misunderstanding. And then it was elaborated. But the language used,
:05:20. > :05:26.for you, learning the stuff? Funnily enough, I don't remember one or I
:05:26. > :05:31.having any difficulty learning sketches. We would go home at night
:05:31. > :05:35.and say, we will do four candles tonight and the library sketch
:05:35. > :05:44.tonight, and the next day we came in and we knew them both. Once you get
:05:44. > :05:48.used to learning them, your mind has had more practice. And you both knew
:05:49. > :05:55.exactly what each other was thinking. For this week's One Show
:05:55. > :05:59.vote, we are asking you, which is your favourite two Ronnies sketch?
:05:59. > :06:04.We have selected four brilliant ones to choose from. They are sketches
:06:04. > :06:09.you don't see often, so we are sorry if you were one thing four candles,
:06:09. > :06:11.but that is not on the list. We have seen a lot of that. Here are the
:06:11. > :06:46.ones on the list. Or you can sign in and vote online
:06:46. > :07:01.for free. The vote ends at 7:35pm sharp. We
:07:01. > :07:04.will play your favourite at the end. We will not ask you for your
:07:04. > :07:09.favourite, because we don't want to sway the vote. It is confusing,
:07:09. > :07:14.because we did several bug sketches and several library sketches. Well,
:07:14. > :07:20.we will show the ones we showed in that little film. Now, we are often
:07:20. > :07:23.told by TV ads how easy it is to claim compensation after an accident
:07:23. > :07:26.at work or on the road. So you could be forgiven for thinking that after
:07:26. > :07:29.having languished in jail for six years and then having your
:07:29. > :07:33.conviction overturned, you would automatically receive a pay-out for
:07:33. > :07:40.the years of liberty you have lost. Well, not quite.
:07:40. > :07:45.It is hard to imagine anything is soul destroying as being locked up
:07:45. > :07:48.for a crime you did not commit, or the feelings of relief when you are
:07:48. > :07:54.told it has all been a huge mistake when you are allowed to go free. You
:07:54. > :08:01.would hope that would be the end of it, but in many cases it is the art
:08:01. > :08:08.of a completely different nightmare. These two men when to jail in 2002
:08:08. > :08:12.for a crime they did not commit. One was found guilty of murdering his
:08:12. > :08:16.government sentenced to life imprisonment. Keith was it dude of
:08:16. > :08:26.helping cover up the crime and given five years. It was like your whole
:08:26. > :08:29.world imploding. But a BBC rough Justice programme in 2005
:08:30. > :08:34.re-examined the evidence to prove that they could not have been at the
:08:34. > :08:39.scene. Innocent men were sent to prison. They appealed, and their
:08:39. > :08:48.convictions were overturned two years later. I just feel like doing
:08:48. > :08:52.a lot of shouting. Having served nine years between them, the joy of
:08:52. > :08:59.release soon turned to despair, as life on the outside started to bring
:08:59. > :09:03.its own set of opens. I would go out with my mates, but always make sure
:09:04. > :09:07.I was with three or four people, just to make true or that if
:09:07. > :09:12.anything did happen, I did not get accused of it again. A few times, I
:09:12. > :09:16.stayed in for weeks on end and never came out of my room. History is
:09:16. > :09:20.littered with cases of miscarriage of justice, but not everyone has
:09:20. > :09:24.been compensated for the time they have spent behind bars. In 2001, ten
:09:24. > :09:33.years after they were released, the Birmingham six were awarded sums of
:09:33. > :09:38.up to £1.2 million. They had been in jail for 16 years. In 2006, the
:09:38. > :09:41.government changed the qualifying criteria to reduce the number of
:09:41. > :09:47.eligible cases. Since then, compensation awards have fallen to
:09:47. > :09:52.just 19 in the last five years. A cap of £500,000 was also
:09:52. > :09:58.introduced, or £1 million for people who have spent ten years or more in
:09:58. > :10:02.jail. So how does it work, and why is it so difficult to get
:10:02. > :10:06.compensation if a judge has already quashed your conviction? Solicitor
:10:06. > :10:10.Bill Bates were presented Angela Cannings, a mother who spent 18
:10:10. > :10:18.months in jail after being wrongly accused in 2002 of murdering her two
:10:18. > :10:22.baby sons. He fought a five-year battle before ultimately securing
:10:22. > :10:25.compensation. Why is it so difficult to get compensation? Principally
:10:25. > :10:27.because the system has to to get compensation? Principally
:10:27. > :10:33.distinguish between making compensation available to those who
:10:33. > :10:37.have undoubtedly been sent to prison wrongly and those who have had their
:10:37. > :10:40.convictions quashed on a technicality. The government does
:10:40. > :10:44.not want to be seen to be writing cheques in favour of people who are
:10:44. > :10:49.otherwise generally thought to be criminals. Barry White and Keith are
:10:49. > :10:53.adamant. That is why they have been waiting six years without weight --
:10:53. > :10:55.receiving compensation. They believed the Ministry of Justice
:10:55. > :11:01.still isn't convinced that they are innocent. I thought I had been
:11:01. > :11:05.proven innocent. How can you say no, we still think you might have
:11:05. > :11:11.done it? But earlier this month, everything changed when another man
:11:11. > :11:15.was tried and convicted of the murder of Barry White's former
:11:15. > :11:20.girlfriend, ritual Manning. I never thought someone would get arrested.
:11:20. > :11:26.I thought it was another case that would be left unsolved. We arranged
:11:26. > :11:32.for Barry and Keith to meet Michael O'Brien, who spent 11 years in jail
:11:32. > :11:35.for a murder he did not commit. He won over £900,000 in compensation.
:11:35. > :11:43.He is now involved with the miscarriage of justice organisation.
:11:43. > :11:49.We have had a written apology from the police. So what is the advice
:11:49. > :11:53.you would give at this stage? They will have to be patient. There will
:11:53. > :11:57.not be a problem getting compensation. The problem is how
:11:57. > :12:02.much they will get, like a loss of earnings and stuff like that. There
:12:02. > :12:07.are so many things more like mental injury, being taken away from family
:12:07. > :12:08.life. Thames Valley Police, who conducted the original
:12:09. > :12:13.investigation, have already apologised to both Keith and Barry.
:12:13. > :12:21.The fight for compensation is all that remains. I want some closure
:12:21. > :12:25.for myself. They can't use any more excuses. They need to pay us what
:12:25. > :12:29.they owe us so we can move on with our lives.
:12:29. > :12:35.Joe is here now to give us an update on that case. What is the latest? In
:12:35. > :12:40.the last few hours, we have learned from sources close to the case that
:12:40. > :12:43.compensation will be paid to them both. The Ministry of Justice will
:12:43. > :12:48.not confirm this at the moment, so we don't know any detail, but that
:12:48. > :12:52.is what we understand will happen. And this has come off the back of
:12:52. > :12:57.the other guy being convicted? Exactly. It is a huge relief for
:12:57. > :13:03.them. And they did six years each? In this case, it was six years for
:13:03. > :13:07.Barry and three years for Keith. It is the most awful situation to be
:13:07. > :13:13.in, but what is the best they can hope for? Michael said it is a
:13:13. > :13:15.complicated claiming process. The compensation will be decided by an
:13:15. > :13:20.independent assessor. The maximum they could get, because it is
:13:20. > :13:23.capped, the maximum they could get would be £500,000 for someone who
:13:23. > :13:28.spent less than ten years in prison. The factors include how
:13:28. > :13:33.serious the crime was, how long they spent in prison, their behaviour
:13:33. > :13:36.during the process, as well as any previous convictions and how the
:13:36. > :13:40.prosecution conducted themselves. That decides how much you get, but
:13:40. > :13:45.the assessor can also take money away. People may be surprised to
:13:45. > :13:50.learn this. Money can be taken back for bed and board, the money that
:13:50. > :13:54.person would have spent on accommodation, food and drink.
:13:54. > :14:00.Michael on that film had £37,000 taken back on his possession for bed
:14:00. > :14:04.and breakfast. So you are effectively paying to be in prison?
:14:04. > :14:07.It is discretionary, so it does not always happen, but they should
:14:07. > :14:14.prepare themselves for that possibility. Why, then, in some
:14:14. > :14:18.cases, with the Justice Secretary not award any compensation at all?
:14:18. > :14:22.The feeling is that the state does not want to pay people who have got
:14:22. > :14:29.off on a technicality. You need to prove your innocence. You need a new
:14:29. > :14:35.piece of evidence that is so compelling that no conviction could
:14:35. > :14:39.possibly be based on it. As you said, someone else has now been
:14:39. > :14:41.convicted of this murder, so for those two, that has done it for
:14:41. > :14:45.them. But we heard the case of those two, that has done it for
:14:45. > :14:49.another Barry, Barry George, whose long-running case for compensation
:14:49. > :14:52.still has not been successful. The then Justice Secretary Jack Straw
:14:52. > :14:55.said he did not meet the criteria. He went to the High Court in
:14:55. > :14:59.January, and they said jurors could still have reasonably convicted him,
:14:59. > :15:03.despite the new evidence. When he took it to the Court of Appeal, they
:15:03. > :15:13.said he had no realistic prospect of success. So it does not look like
:15:13. > :15:18.it'll in his case. Ronnie has a brand-new series starting this
:15:18. > :15:23.evening, and watching the documentary, we love the story about
:15:23. > :15:30.how you and Ronnie Barker got your big break on the BBC originally
:15:30. > :15:39.because of a technical hitch. That's right, at the Palladium. What
:15:39. > :15:47.happened? You filled 45 minutes! That is exaggerating! Seven or
:15:47. > :15:53.eight. But it felt like 45! Yes, we floundered around and entertained,
:15:53. > :15:58.and Paul Cox was sitting there and he said, had you like these to as
:15:58. > :16:05.BBC artists? We were with London weekend television at the time. The
:16:05. > :16:16.next day, something happened, they will just back, and we were under
:16:16. > :16:22.the David Frost paragon, we had signed contracts. We will talk about
:16:22. > :16:27.the late Sir David Frost in a moment. You dig deep in the archives
:16:27. > :16:38.for this, and the wonderful thing is, you find that footage of you in
:16:38. > :16:43.the BAFTAs. We have got it here! Incompetent poltroon! You failed to
:16:43. > :16:52.obtain my divorce! When will I be rid of this occurs at Queen? I am
:16:52. > :17:01.going, I am going. I shall be boiled in oil, flogged and hanging chains!
:17:01. > :17:09.Oh, a party! I love your costume! Isn't it great? I know! Because my
:17:09. > :17:16.work in nightclubs with Danny LaRue, I was used to handling such vast
:17:16. > :17:19.bits of material. Going back to that moment when things start to go
:17:19. > :17:25.wrong, were you thinking, this is the end of it? Or were you thinking,
:17:25. > :17:26.this is the beginning of something? I was just thinking, how do we get
:17:26. > :17:36.this is the beginning of something? through this? What did you do when
:17:36. > :17:41.you filled? I can't remember now, it was all panic, but we did fill it up
:17:41. > :17:49.and it was a critical time for us. Also, the channel we were with at
:17:49. > :17:53.that age work rumbling and altering and changing their ways, so it was
:17:54. > :17:59.quite easy exit for us. We were just talking about Sir David Frost. The
:17:59. > :18:06.Frost Report was a turning point for you. It was, finally enough I had an
:18:06. > :18:10.e-mail today from John Cleese. For Ronnie Barker, myself and John
:18:10. > :18:16.Cleese, a complete change in our lives via David and The Frost
:18:16. > :18:21.Report. I was working in nightclubs and Ronnie Barker was more
:18:21. > :18:28.experienced on television, he was doing shows with Jimmy Edwards. He
:18:28. > :18:34.did a radio show also John Pertwee. I was at the nightclub with Danny
:18:34. > :18:41.LaRue, and John was capering around with some undergrad doing funny
:18:41. > :18:46.writing! And then the two Ronnies became such an incredible part of
:18:46. > :18:51.television. Quite different from the type of comedy that is out there
:18:51. > :18:56.now. Yes, I think that is right. We were very fortunate we were in
:18:56. > :19:03.control of ourselves to such an extent. The BBC observed that. We
:19:03. > :19:09.could make a series of eight programmes before even the first one
:19:09. > :19:14.went out. So we had eight programmes ready in a chunk. So there was no
:19:14. > :19:19.panic editing or worrying, or thinking what we were going to do.
:19:19. > :19:23.To put the documentary together, you have looked back over lots of your
:19:23. > :19:24.footage, do you think there is anything out there that is similar
:19:24. > :19:36.today? Or as good even? Well, it's anything out there that is similar
:19:36. > :19:42.all different. Much more outrageous stuff nowadays. Do you think there
:19:42. > :19:50.is that light entertainment, do you think it is missing nowadays?
:19:50. > :19:54.Probably a little bit of it, because people are having a quick success in
:19:54. > :20:04.their lives earlier, being successful in their mid-20s. Are
:20:04. > :20:13.they ready for it? Obviously, Ronnie and I were in our mid-, late 30s.
:20:13. > :20:24.More comfortable. There is no similar duo! You can see them at 8pm
:20:24. > :20:29.on the Gold channel. We have a new face on the One Show. Underwater
:20:29. > :20:35.explorer and action man Andy Torbot. How about a flooded quarry for his
:20:36. > :20:40.first adventure? The picturesque valleys of North Wales. Over 100
:20:40. > :20:44.years ago, "is dominated this landscape and stop at its peak the
:20:44. > :20:51.region produced over 80% of Britain 's slate. A vast -- the last quarry
:20:52. > :20:56.closed here in 1948. It's going to be a challenge but I want to explore
:20:56. > :21:00.what remains of the abandoned subterranean world that exists right
:21:01. > :21:06.between my feet. Unlike old mining, slate quarrying doesn't require deep
:21:06. > :21:13.tunnels. Only when the Gourock is exhausted at the surface is the
:21:13. > :21:17.slate to be blasted out. This quarry was constantly prone to flooding.
:21:17. > :21:22.When it closed, the pump keeping its tunnels dry were shut off. Salvage
:21:22. > :21:25.merchants salvaged most of the machinery from the upper levels but
:21:25. > :21:31.everything at a deeper level was abandoned. It's all still down
:21:31. > :21:37.there, frozen in time. I'm hoping to get a glimpse of it. Elizabeth
:21:37. > :21:40.Taylor 's father was the last owner of the quarry. She visited the
:21:40. > :21:46.tunnel as a girl and I'm hoping she can shed some light on what I might
:21:46. > :21:53.find. I was a proper tomboy, so jumping on a flat truck, suited me
:21:53. > :21:56.fine. I do remember having to stop at one town, because they were
:21:56. > :22:03.blasting further on so we had to wait. What should I expect to see
:22:03. > :22:10.down there? Probably trucks which never came up, nobody seemed to see
:22:10. > :22:13.much of them after they closed. I am planning to dive 100 feet below the
:22:13. > :22:20.surface level to the deepest part of the quarry will stop its certainly
:22:20. > :22:26.not a dive for the faint-hearted. Along with my cameraman, I have two
:22:26. > :22:31.safety divers going in with me and the supervisor. It takes you to some
:22:31. > :22:41.of the most oppressed environments on Earth. Cold, dark, damp and' big.
:22:41. > :22:46.-- claustrophobic. The unstable geology is not your biggest problem.
:22:46. > :22:49.In the past when there have been fatal dives, the postmortems have
:22:49. > :22:53.shown that most of the divers have plenty of benefit in their tanks,
:22:53. > :23:01.it's usually a panic situation that has led them to actually die. So we
:23:01. > :23:05.are using some specialist kit which effectively recycles one breath for
:23:05. > :23:10.the whole dive. Crucially for this, it braces no bubbles because bubble
:23:10. > :23:17.testing besieging can also cause cave-ins, if that happens when you
:23:17. > :23:20.dive, you are having a very bad day. I can't use a committee case and is
:23:20. > :23:25.device so I'm relying on the divers waiting at the tunnel entrance to
:23:25. > :23:29.relay messages to and from the surface. After more than four hours
:23:29. > :23:32.of preparation, it's time to go in. Following a safety line, we make the
:23:32. > :23:45.dissent in stages. But as soon as we get down to 25
:23:45. > :23:47.metres, its worth taking. -- it is breathtaking. I can clearly to the
:23:47. > :23:53.tracks reading down into the tunnel. breathtaking. I can clearly to the
:23:53. > :23:59.And the flatbed trucks, just like the ones Elizabeth would have
:23:59. > :24:03.travelled down. The steam engine and its now broken drive belt would have
:24:03. > :24:07.powered the haulage lifts. Gear wheels would have formed part of the
:24:07. > :24:15.winch to lift the slabs of state onto the tracks. And then I come
:24:15. > :24:26.across something much more poignant. Written on the walls are names. Ted,
:24:26. > :24:28.the initials eg J. These are probably the names of the rock men
:24:28. > :24:31.who were once in charge of drilling probably the names of the rock men
:24:31. > :24:35.and blasting specific parts of the quarry. The Marx would have been
:24:35. > :24:41.their way of keeping track of each chunk of slate sent to the surface.
:24:41. > :24:44.I have found more than I could have hoped for. As visibility
:24:44. > :24:55.deteriorates, we decided to call it a day. What an experience, what an
:24:55. > :25:00.incredible window into our industrial past. Especially the
:25:00. > :25:05.writing on the wall. We have brought home the history of the place. It
:25:05. > :25:08.was a technical and tricky dive, but nothing to bed to the hazardous
:25:08. > :25:16.conditions those quarry men would have faced working down there, day
:25:16. > :25:25.in, day out. Thanks, extraordinary to see those names. Quite eerie,
:25:25. > :25:29.that. Maybe family members have been watching tonight. Andy will be back
:25:29. > :25:38.next month, and he will dive at one of these. This is off the
:25:38. > :25:43.Pembrokeshire coast. We are asking you to vote for which two Ronnies
:25:43. > :26:19.clip you want to see later in the show.
:26:19. > :26:24.Texts are capped at one text number. Or you can vote online for
:26:24. > :26:37.free. The vote will end in ten minutes. We
:26:37. > :26:43.will see the skit with the most votes later in the show. We have a
:26:43. > :26:47.bit of a mathematical problem to you to solve. First of all, we will have
:26:48. > :26:55.the Ultimate Beatles to play us in. Music-macro We can work it out
:26:55. > :27:14.music-macro We can work it out. Thank you, lads. This is the formula
:27:14. > :27:22.that we will be using to try and work this out. This comes from your
:27:22. > :27:26.autobiography. What is your formula? At the school dance that used to
:27:26. > :27:34.take place in the gymnasium, I would sit and gauge the girl 's height,
:27:34. > :27:44.where her shoulders came on the parallel bars. That equals Ronnie 's
:27:44. > :27:50.type! So we will do that with the girls we have sat over there. We
:27:50. > :27:59.will start with Amy. From here, it can you work that out? I have to
:27:59. > :28:04.say, the bar isn't quite parallel. But I think she does seem quite a
:28:04. > :28:12.safe bet for me to walk up and ask her. I think she may be about five
:28:12. > :28:26.foot two. Look at that! Absolutely nailed it! Hello, B. This is windy.
:28:26. > :28:33.How tall do you think she is? I think she is about five but seven.
:28:33. > :28:47.How tall are you? She has got long legs! That would give me a real
:28:47. > :29:03.fright, you see. And Melanie! Five feet ten. In these shoes, maybe.
:29:03. > :29:15.Come on over! Lovely to see you, as always. Thanks also to Amy and
:29:15. > :29:21.Wendy. So yes, you are preparing to go back on the road with Jesus
:29:21. > :29:24.Christ Superstar? It's really exciting, we toured the UK a year
:29:24. > :29:29.ago and it was so popular and went down so well that we are doing it
:29:30. > :29:46.all over again. Let's have a look at the cast in action.
:29:46. > :30:18.It is such a great production. It is an arena tour, so it is on a much
:30:18. > :30:22.bigger scale than it has been done before. And it is the same caste? We
:30:22. > :30:26.bigger scale than it has been done have a few new ones in the ensemble,
:30:26. > :30:29.but we toured Australia in June, so it will be the second time we have
:30:30. > :30:38.toured together. Tim Minchin is back as Judas, Chris Mills is back --
:30:38. > :30:45.Chris Moyles is back as King Herod. And you are all friends? Yeah. None
:30:45. > :30:48.of us knew what to expect, and I was a bit scared of Tim Minchin, because
:30:49. > :30:53.he is incredible and I did not think he would have time for a Spice Girl.
:30:53. > :30:59.But he is such a lovely man that we all hit it off. It starts on the 1st
:30:59. > :31:06.of October in Glasgow. Are you rehearsing every hour that God
:31:06. > :31:10.sends? No, we start on Sunday. But we had a really successful touring
:31:10. > :31:14.Australia not long ago, so we just need to push it back to where it
:31:14. > :31:19.needs to be. Where are you playing in Glasgow? Actually, there is a
:31:19. > :31:22.brand-new arena that which has only opened recently. And there is a new
:31:22. > :31:29.arena in Leeds which has just opened as well, and the O2 in London. We
:31:29. > :31:33.are all over the place. Check the website. And did Ben Foster win his
:31:33. > :31:41.place through a talent show? He did. He is amazing. Such a talented guy.
:31:41. > :31:45.You have been doing musical theatre, like Blood Brothers in
:31:45. > :31:50.2009, you have nearly been doing it as long as the Spice Girls. My
:31:50. > :31:56.goodness, I never thought of it like that. It was a short space of time
:31:56. > :32:00.we were together. When you compare the two, doing your arena stuff, it
:32:00. > :32:05.feels quite like the audiences you would be used to, but I guess the
:32:05. > :32:10.structure of theatre is restricting for you, as opposed to the freedom
:32:10. > :32:14.of a pop star? The biggest difference for me is the
:32:14. > :32:18.responsibility. If you are doing a piece that has been written a
:32:18. > :32:21.certain way, you have to do it that way, and if you make a mistake,
:32:21. > :32:26.there are a lot of people you are letting down. There is the whole
:32:26. > :32:31.caste. If I do a solo gig or Spice Girls show, if we go wrong, we can
:32:31. > :32:35.have a laugh with the audience. You can't do that here. But do you add
:32:35. > :32:41.live a little bit if you are doing the show over and over again? Not at
:32:41. > :32:46.all. They would come down on us like a bricks. But the energy and the
:32:46. > :32:54.audience is different every night. You never know what will happen. It
:32:54. > :32:58.is the reaction you get from the audience, because they are so far
:32:58. > :33:04.back. Do you feel you are intact with them? Not the same as in
:33:04. > :33:10.smaller places. It is not like a theatre. It is two worlds colliding
:33:10. > :33:17.for me. But it is two of my passions. Ronnie, you will have to
:33:17. > :33:21.get some tickets. We will all go. Get a bag of Maltesers. You can see
:33:21. > :33:25.Mel and the Jesus Christ Superstar caste on tour in October the 1st in
:33:25. > :33:33.Glasgow, followed by Liz, Birmingham, Nottingham, Manchester,
:33:33. > :33:37.London and Liverpool. And you are going to stick around, because you
:33:37. > :33:42.have got some good news? I have got a secret to tell.
:33:42. > :33:47.Ultimate Beatles, can we have another track, please?
:33:47. > :33:59.# back in the USSR. # Don't know how lucky you are.
:33:59. > :34:03.# Back in the USSR. Now it is the strange tale of two
:34:03. > :34:08.seamen marooned in a south coast port aboard a ship that is going
:34:08. > :34:18.nowhere. They have nothing against Shoreham by Sea, but Igor and
:34:18. > :34:22.Mikhail are desperate to go home. There is a Russian proverb which
:34:22. > :34:30.says a lonely person is at home everywhere. That might ring true for
:34:30. > :34:34.any seafarer, but I am here in Shoreham by Sea, a sleepy port on
:34:34. > :34:37.the West Sussex coast, to meet one Russian sea captain who has been
:34:37. > :34:47.waiting to go home for eight long months. This unlikely story started
:34:47. > :34:50.in January, when independent months. This unlikely story started
:34:50. > :34:58.shipping, a British company that had this ship, failed to pay her £32,000
:34:58. > :35:02.fuel bill. The ship was served with an arrest warrant by the Admiralty
:35:02. > :35:08.Marshall, and so, since January, has not been allowed to leave port. But
:35:08. > :35:13.this in pounded ship is not empty. Captain Mikhail Poliakoff and able
:35:13. > :35:20.Seaman Igor have lived on the ship for 245 days. The rest of the nine
:35:20. > :35:24.strong queue -- crew have flown home. None of them have been paid,
:35:24. > :35:28.and the captain says he is staying put until everybody gets their
:35:28. > :35:37.money. How do you manage when you have not been paid for seven months?
:35:37. > :35:42.It was very difficult. For a Seaman's family on shore, for
:35:42. > :35:50.example, I have one child. My able Seaman Igor has two children. I
:35:50. > :36:01.don't know how they are living without the wage. Who will help
:36:01. > :36:09.them? I don't know. The whole family are living very poorly. Captain
:36:09. > :36:12.Mikhail and Igor not allowed onto the mainland, but under
:36:12. > :36:17.international see legislation, they are allowed to visit the port town.
:36:17. > :36:22.But the captain prefers to stay with his ship. It is a bleak and slightly
:36:22. > :36:26.surreal reality, but helping captain Mikhail and Igor is reverend
:36:26. > :36:30.Rogerstone, from charity the apostleship of the sea. What sort of
:36:30. > :36:37.support are you providing? Spending time with the crew, trying to help
:36:37. > :36:44.them in different ways. How would you describe their emotional state
:36:44. > :36:48.at the moment? I think they are very vulnerable. It is easy to be
:36:48. > :36:53.deceived that they are OK. Yesterday, when I was chatting to
:36:53. > :36:55.Igor, he was very low and depressed, because his wife is
:36:55. > :37:00.struggling at home. While the depressed, because his wife is
:37:00. > :37:07.captain and Igor wait for a solution, they offer me a tour
:37:07. > :37:13.around their living quarters. Ironing board, very important. Yes.
:37:13. > :37:22.Not very big. Not very modern. Not Ironing board, very important. Yes.
:37:22. > :37:27.very new, is it? And I have got something for the two seafarers
:37:27. > :37:40.myself. Here is a little gift from The One Show, gents. Gift? Puzzles,
:37:40. > :37:50.crosswords. Excellent. Herrings. Thank you very much. Best of luck.
:37:50. > :37:55.The two Ronnies sketch vote has now closed. Do not vote. You may still
:37:55. > :37:59.be charged. The company involved in that story has asked us to say they
:37:59. > :38:03.are working hard to settle the outstanding wages, and they hope to
:38:03. > :38:08.do so within six weeks. They also say they are in daily contact with
:38:08. > :38:11.the two men, who are not relying on charity, because they had the same
:38:11. > :38:16.money for food and fuel as if the ship were at sea. Here's hoping they
:38:16. > :38:19.get back to their family soon with their wages.
:38:19. > :38:22.Now, they may not be going anywhere fast, but with the prolonged
:38:22. > :38:26.sunshine around the coast this summer, plenty of people have been
:38:26. > :38:31.out on the water and many have got into trouble. Statistics released
:38:31. > :38:37.this week revealed that the RNLI lifeboat crews and lifeguards have
:38:37. > :38:40.their busiest summer in 24 years. Photographer and lifeboat volunteer
:38:40. > :38:50.Nigel Millard is with us, along with some of his colleagues from Torbay
:38:50. > :38:58.and London. What a lovely bunch of people. Nigel has put all these
:38:58. > :39:07.pictures together in this book. What was your main goal behind the book?
:39:07. > :39:12.This was a personal project. I am a photographer. It started in 2005. I
:39:12. > :39:17.would hang out at the lifeboat station for a few days a week, and
:39:17. > :39:21.then I visited more stations. In 2008, I became a volunteer on the
:39:21. > :39:26.crew at Torbay, and in 2010, the book was born, along with the
:39:26. > :39:29.writers and the publisher, and I have spent the last few years
:39:29. > :39:36.shooting to get imagery for the book. They do say a picture paints a
:39:36. > :39:41.thousand words, and when you look at those, you are therein the action.
:39:41. > :39:45.Let's have a look at some in particular. What was the story
:39:45. > :39:55.behind this? Where were you? I am in a little white boat. We are a couple
:39:55. > :40:03.of miles out in a rather lumpy sea, hanging on. It was one of the first
:40:03. > :40:08.images I did for the project, and still one of the strongest for me,
:40:08. > :40:12.because it has all the drama of a lifeboat rescue. When you talk to
:40:12. > :40:16.casualties, they say they don't see anything, and then a flash of Orange
:40:16. > :40:23.appears. RNLI families are important. These are the our family
:40:23. > :40:28.from Torbay. Will Andrei Arshavin the audience to night. We'll is on
:40:28. > :40:33.the left. Keith is a gold-medal coxswain will stop and Marjorie,
:40:33. > :40:37.their mum, Colin, a lifeboat press officer, and Ray, on the end, who is
:40:37. > :40:45.also in the audience. Marjorie works for the fundraising Guild and raises
:40:45. > :40:48.money around the country. She raised over £140,000 for the RNLI each
:40:48. > :40:54.year. Without that, we could not put the boats to see. Ed William example
:40:54. > :40:59.of people power. There are endless rescues that are depicted in this.
:40:59. > :41:05.Show us this one as well. This is from Torbay lifeboat a couple of
:41:05. > :41:08.years ago. We received a Mayday call and we launched as quickly as we
:41:08. > :41:15.could. Lucas, one of our divers, is here tonight. They dived in normal
:41:15. > :41:22.conditions, and when they came up, it was thick fog. We had difficulty
:41:22. > :41:29.locating them. I was looking after Luke, one of our crew doctors. He
:41:29. > :41:34.attended to the other casualties. Luke was airlifted. Then I grabbed
:41:34. > :41:38.the camera to shoot this. Sometimes the camera never comes out of the
:41:38. > :41:43.bag. It is a fine balance, working out when to take the shot. My role
:41:43. > :41:52.as a crewman comes first, the camera second. What is it like to have your
:41:52. > :41:56.story told in this? It is a day we will never forget. I lost
:41:56. > :42:02.consciousness underwater. We were so grateful when the lifeboat turned
:42:02. > :42:07.up. We heard it first, and to have their resources and skills was
:42:07. > :42:11.fantastic. And how is Anna now? She is fine, I am fine. We have come to
:42:11. > :42:18.terms with what happened. I am diving again. Diving is a great
:42:18. > :42:21.ought, a really pleasurable sport, and these things are. It is
:42:21. > :42:26.something people should try and enjoy. And of course, Richard was
:42:26. > :42:32.the guy in the picture next door who saved you. Thanks to Richard and
:42:32. > :42:38.everybody. Nigel's book, The Lifeboat - Courage On Our Coasts, is
:42:38. > :42:51.published on the 30th of September. Thank you to all the volunteers from
:42:51. > :42:56.the RNLI across the UK. Now, Ronnie, we think you might love
:42:56. > :42:58.the next DT, because it is a subject close to your heart. It is all about
:42:58. > :43:04.the next DT, because it is a subject dogs, more specifically a Jack
:43:04. > :43:08.Russell called Eric. He is lovely. Mel, we know you are allergic to
:43:08. > :43:13.dogs, so you might not like this, but bear with us, because he is cute
:43:13. > :43:18.and he belongs to EastEnders' big no.
:43:18. > :43:23.This is my pet Jack Russell, Eric. I call him my little man, and he is
:43:23. > :43:28.the best pet I have ever had. I have called Eric Eric after Eric Clapton.
:43:28. > :43:33.I would say he is very loving, very loyal, follows me everywhere. He
:43:33. > :43:40.also plays football. But it has got to be a good ball, because it is
:43:40. > :43:43.gone within five minutes. There are over 4500 back Russell is registered
:43:43. > :43:46.in the UK, and I can see why they are a such a popular dog. As well as
:43:46. > :43:51.having bags of energy, they are also incredibly loyal. And I go on
:43:51. > :43:55.holiday, my daughter or granddaughter stays here and looks
:43:55. > :43:59.after him, and he sits up there and just waits till I come home will
:43:59. > :44:02.stop although I have had Eric for eight years, I don't know much about
:44:02. > :44:11.where Jack Russell 's come from. I have heard that they get their name
:44:11. > :44:17.from a parson who lived here in the 1800s. I have gone to find out more.
:44:17. > :44:19.The village of swing bridge is where it began for the Jack Russell line
:44:19. > :44:25.The village of swing bridge is where all those years ago. I have come to
:44:25. > :44:29.meet a reverend and who knows a thing or two about his famous
:44:29. > :44:34.predecessor. This is where in 1832, Parson Jack Russell, or John
:44:34. > :44:37.Russell, as he was known, came to start his ministry. He served here
:44:37. > :44:43.for over 40 years as I Irish priest. He was a wonderful man, a
:44:43. > :44:47.great hunter and sportsmen. He was known as Parson Jack, the hunting
:44:47. > :44:51.parson. The most common hunting dog of the day was a fox terrier, but
:44:51. > :44:55.their dark colouring made them easy to mistake for the fox in the hunt.
:44:55. > :44:59.Jack saw the potential to create a new line of dog with lighter
:44:59. > :45:04.colouring that would make them more effective hunters. They needed a dog
:45:04. > :45:08.that was sturdy, that could keep up with the horses, but was small
:45:08. > :45:12.enough to go into the fox's ten to force them out to start the hunt.
:45:12. > :45:18.They bought the first dog from a milkman, which he bred from. That
:45:18. > :45:22.dog was called Trump. Trump was a white terrier. The group was small,
:45:22. > :45:27.quick and strong, but traditionally, they were only used as pets. Jack
:45:27. > :45:30.thought that if he could breed Trump selectively with fox terriers, he
:45:30. > :45:34.could achieve his ideal hunting dog. After 12 years of careful
:45:34. > :45:40.breeding, the Jack Russell line was established. Signs of the man and
:45:40. > :45:44.his dog are everywhere here, including the local pub, where I am
:45:45. > :45:50.eating a Jack Russell breeder to find out how the dogs are used
:45:51. > :46:00.today. Jack Russell 's are very versatile.
:46:00. > :46:05.It is a working dog. What are the physical characteristics of the Jack
:46:05. > :46:09.Russell terrier? You are looking for a strong dollar, it should be as
:46:09. > :46:15.long as it is tall. Almond shaped eyes, the ears laid forward and a
:46:15. > :46:20.strong jaw. Very important that it has a good, thick coat, for working
:46:20. > :46:24.in different weathers, but generally, a well-balanced dog that
:46:24. > :46:28.can work underground, aboveground and run all day. Parson Jack Russell
:46:28. > :46:33.was one of the founders of the kennel club. The dog that there is
:46:33. > :46:37.his name has never been officially recognised as a breed. Jack Russell
:46:37. > :46:40.enthusiasts believe that official recognition would lead to the dog
:46:41. > :46:45.being selectively bred and that their qualities as a working dog
:46:45. > :46:52.would be lost forever. What you must remember is that the Jack Russell
:46:52. > :46:56.today is one that has been kept the way it is for over 100 years, since
:46:56. > :47:01.John Russell first bought that terrier. It's time that me and Eric
:47:01. > :47:09.were reunited so I have brought into Warwickshire to the terrier club. I
:47:09. > :47:14.just hope he doesn't get too jealous! Today is a confirmation
:47:14. > :47:18.show, you get an experienced person to judge people 's Terriers.
:47:18. > :47:27.Everybody wants to win a rosette and a trophy. Why is it you have got
:47:27. > :47:35.Jack Russells? I just love their characters. My husband has bred them
:47:35. > :47:41.the years. I have got 23! Well, it has been an interesting couple of
:47:41. > :47:45.days. I am pleased to have find out -- found out where the line
:47:45. > :47:52.originated from. And the Jack Russells today are as popular as
:47:52. > :47:57.they were 200 years ago. It's quite funny to have her on the One Show!
:47:57. > :48:04.You were watching that with interest, you have had one. Yes, we
:48:04. > :48:07.did have a Jack Russell. We were off out of the theatre, this Jack
:48:07. > :48:11.Russell was in the Garrard on its own. With somebody had dumped him, I
:48:11. > :48:15.don't know full stop we took into the house, somebody was the house,
:48:15. > :48:21.we came back after the show, they were sound asleep on Sophie, our
:48:21. > :48:32.daughter 's bed. We had him forever after that. You have a new dress
:48:32. > :48:40.code -- rescue dog now. You are having a bit of trouble? He is not
:48:40. > :48:46.having any problem with and, he adores every move she makes, any
:48:46. > :48:53.whimper, he picks up on. He doesn't hate me, as long as she is about!
:48:53. > :49:06.She does the calling, you do the treating. Yes, yes. Treat, treat.
:49:06. > :49:09.Very good. Go on, throw him a treat. Let's just try that once more.
:49:10. > :49:26.Excellent. He is on his way back. You look well suited. Yes, she was
:49:26. > :49:31.very good, that lady. You should get match committee is cheaper! He is
:49:31. > :49:38.like a dog whisperer. He had obviously been abused by a male. He
:49:38. > :49:46.hates brushes. I am enough other mail for him to hate me. It's that
:49:46. > :49:51.testosterone! The programme continues straight after the
:49:51. > :49:58.programmer Cron Fridays. Now to two Beatles fans who have been reunited
:49:58. > :50:00.after 40 years. We go on the trail of a tape-recorded message of two
:50:00. > :50:09.after 40 years. We go on the trail fans of the 54 who turned up in a
:50:09. > :50:12.car-boot sale in great Yarmouth. The Beatles are top of the hit parade,
:50:12. > :50:20.performing a series of sold-out gigs in front of thousands of screaming
:50:20. > :50:23.fans. In the audience at the Lewisham Odeon were two teenage
:50:24. > :50:28.girls who were absolutely swept away by Beatlemania, as we all were.
:50:28. > :50:32.After the gig, they decided to send their idols are message. They
:50:32. > :50:36.recorded it on a reel to reel tape and left it at the next venue where
:50:36. > :50:42.the Beatles would be playing. Hi, boys, we hope you like our message.
:50:42. > :50:53.I am Barbara, I'm 17, five foot four. I am Linda, I am 19, I have
:50:53. > :51:01.green eyes. Our dream is that we see you, we can always live in hope!
:51:01. > :51:07.This is the actual tape box. It says, to await collection or
:51:07. > :51:13.forward, please, to the Beatles. We are not sure if the Beatles ever
:51:13. > :51:16.even saw it or not. But we did at half a century later, it ended up in
:51:16. > :51:23.the rock 'n' roll centre of rate Yarmouth! That when it was
:51:23. > :51:29.discovered by local historian David McDermott. It was just incredible,
:51:29. > :51:32.it was like going back 50 years and sitting inside a bubble and actually
:51:32. > :51:38.being there when these girls were making the tape. What was the
:51:38. > :51:42.feeling you were getting from its? Magic, the hairs on the back of my
:51:42. > :51:49.neck went up. The first thing that passed my mind was, are these two
:51:49. > :51:55.girls still with us? David had no idea how to find out so he turned to
:51:55. > :52:04.the One Show for help. We set out to try and find them. The only things
:52:04. > :52:07.we had to go on where their names, Barbara and Linda. After weeks of
:52:07. > :52:11.trawling through records, our researchers eventually found
:52:11. > :52:17.Barbara, she is still a massive Beatles fan. So we brought here to
:52:17. > :52:28.the exhibition in Liverpool. Barbara! Do you remember making this
:52:28. > :52:35.magical take? I do, it was in my bedroom in a place called ELT in
:52:35. > :52:38.south London. What was your motive? It would have been nice if they had
:52:38. > :52:44.listened to it and thought, these girls we have to meet! Barbara and
:52:44. > :52:50.Linda lost contact over 40 years ago and Barbara would love to see her
:52:50. > :52:57.friend again. I have looked on line and on Facebook, but honestly, I
:52:57. > :53:02.can't find her. Well, the One Show has found, now living just 40 miles
:53:02. > :53:08.away in Leon C. I would like to introduce you to another really good
:53:08. > :53:18.Beatles fan. Here she is! She's called Linda! Linda! I don't believe
:53:18. > :53:27.it! I would have never recognised you! I recognise you now! The girls
:53:27. > :53:32.are being reunited with their tape, which David has transferred to CD,
:53:32. > :53:39.so they can once again listen to it. 50 years since you have heard this
:53:39. > :53:45.tape, so here we go. It would be to reflect to meet George. I know why
:53:45. > :53:53.she likes Paul, it is those fantastic area legs!
:53:53. > :54:00.Happily reunited, Barbara and Linda go on a tour of the exhibition. The
:54:00. > :54:06.Beatles story going to put their tape online and we have one more
:54:06. > :54:12.surprise to them. We finally did get the tape to Paul. He says, thank you
:54:12. > :54:16.very much for your lovely tape, it finally got through. At a late than
:54:16. > :54:22.never. Write to hear that he found each other after all these years.
:54:22. > :54:25.Keep enjoying the music, love, Paul. That's fantastic! I can't believe
:54:25. > :54:40.it. That is incredible. Thank you both very much!
:54:40. > :54:43.Heart-warming story. Their husbands are also here but they are hiding
:54:43. > :54:49.over there, they are too embarrassed! Lovely that they are
:54:49. > :54:54.all back together. We promised you a Mel C special announcement. It's big
:54:54. > :54:58.news! She's having a big birthday next year and you are going to
:54:58. > :55:05.celebrate in style! I am commanded to do a one-off show in Shepherd's
:55:05. > :55:14.Bush on the 11th of January, celebrating turning 40! So you are
:55:14. > :55:18.doing a big shout out! Tickets go on sale on Friday. I am going to do
:55:18. > :55:22.loads of songs from my solo work, get some friends to come and join
:55:22. > :55:29.me, we will have a big party with loads of fun. And well those friends
:55:29. > :55:35.potentially be part of the Spice Girls? Possibly. I will be putting
:55:35. > :55:40.the message out to people I have worked with over the years. Fingers
:55:40. > :55:47.crossed we will have a good lunch. Is it still a good theatre? It's
:55:47. > :55:55.great! It was my never one choice, I was lucky enough to get it. It is
:55:55. > :56:01.every time you go to a place can you associate it with the theatre! The
:56:01. > :56:04.Shepherd's Bush Empire, I did it with amen Andrews, and then The
:56:04. > :56:11.Frost Report was done live from the Shepherd's Bush Empire. That's what
:56:11. > :56:16.it is amazing, when you play these venues, there is so much history.
:56:16. > :56:21.Right, as you were saying, tickets for her amazing birthday will be on
:56:21. > :56:29.sale from Friday. So all the for her amazing birthday will be on
:56:29. > :56:33.programme we have been asking you to vote for your favourite two Ronnies
:56:33. > :56:38.sketch. The votes are in, they have been counted and verified! I can
:56:38. > :56:40.tell you, you are going to be delighted. Can you read that out for
:56:40. > :56:47.us? Park! 55%! Let's all sit back delighted. Can you read that out for
:56:47. > :57:04.and enjoy the magic. I will have a pint of... A pint of
:57:04. > :57:08.mild? Pint of bitter. How are you, haven't seen you at the factory?
:57:08. > :57:17.Have you been sick? No, I typed it in! They want me to change my...
:57:17. > :57:21.Change your hours? Change your habits? Change your socks more
:57:21. > :57:28.often? Know, change my duties, didn't they? Cheers, all the best. I
:57:28. > :57:32.didn't want to do that. I've got didn't they? Cheers, all the best. I
:57:32. > :57:39.very good job there, I have a cushy number. What exactly was your job
:57:39. > :57:49.there? Same as I've had 20 years. I always work with... Pride? Within
:57:49. > :57:55.reason? With your overcoat on? With Harry, didn't I? I always work with
:57:55. > :57:57.Harry. He used to give me his... Wholehearted support? Athletic
:57:57. > :58:16.support? No, his Ginger nuts! Fantastic! Was that real beer? No,
:58:17. > :58:21.it was watered down. Otherwise, you would be in a right state! You were
:58:21. > :58:26.it was watered down. Otherwise, you delighted about that. Why did you
:58:26. > :58:33.like that one in particular? We did several of that style in the pub,
:58:33. > :58:40.with me and runny suggestion -- wrongly suggesting unlikely
:58:40. > :58:45.solutions. And it just worked well. Thanks to our guests this evening. I
:58:45. > :58:54.hope the dog stops treating the paper! And don't forget, the two
:58:54. > :58:59.Ronnies are about to start on the Gold channel. And good luck with
:58:59. > :59:05.Jesus Christ Superstar. And of Gold channel. And good luck with
:59:05. > :59:06.course with your birthday do. See you tomorrow, we are joined by Len
:59:06. > :59:07.Goodman.