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:00:16. > :00:20.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Joe Crowley.

:00:20. > :00:23.And Alex Jones. Tonight's guests can be summed up in two words. Pub

:00:23. > :00:26.grub. Providing the grub, it's the

:00:26. > :00:28.presenter of a new series uncovering the truth about what we

:00:28. > :00:31.eat. Rip Off Food's Gloria Hunniford.

:00:31. > :00:40.And providing the pub, who else but the man behind everyone's favourite

:00:40. > :00:45.bar-room philosopher? It's the landlord of laughter, Al Murray.

:00:45. > :00:50.APPLAUSE You've developed an interesting

:00:50. > :00:56.skill touring around the country. You know the sandwich and snack

:00:56. > :01:06.range at every motorway service station. Pretty much. We will test

:01:06. > :01:10.

:01:10. > :01:17.you. Leicester Forest, southbound, M1. At the pump, or we have

:01:17. > :01:20.Ginsters, no doubt. If we driving and look at the pump and we cannot

:01:20. > :01:30.see their red labels, or we could onto the next one because they are

:01:30. > :01:33.

:01:33. > :01:36.my favourite! Northbound? How about Knutsford southbound on the M6?

:01:37. > :01:46.normally drive onto Stafford because there are some peace in

:01:47. > :01:47.

:01:47. > :01:51.Stafford and they are very friendly! -- geese. We don't eat

:01:51. > :01:58.them! You've got a warning to Al about

:01:58. > :02:02.motorway sandwiches? At a supermarket you could pay �3.50 at

:02:03. > :02:08.the tills for a sandwich but that the motorway, you are paying 20%

:02:08. > :02:13.more and they will argue, we have to provide a 24 hour service, but I

:02:13. > :02:17.have an offer for you. I will make your sandwiches for your trip

:02:17. > :02:21.because I am good and I will save you a lot. It I am sure he will

:02:21. > :02:24.hold you to that! For Gloria's latest series, Rip Off

:02:24. > :02:28.Food, she's uncovering how we can all be bamboozled by food producers

:02:28. > :02:31.and retailers. Here she is with three hunky rowers,

:02:31. > :02:34.showing how some flavoured water compares to normal fizzy lemonade

:02:34. > :02:38.when it comes to calories. I am going to be due each a drink

:02:38. > :02:42.and I should imagine he will be ready for that.

:02:42. > :02:52.On the right, John gets a can with a third of a litre of Schweppes

:02:52. > :02:59.

:02:59. > :03:03.lemonade. Then, half a bottle of Volvic water. And then up a lemon

:03:03. > :03:12.and lime flavour. We will then see after they have drunk it how long

:03:12. > :03:19.it'll take them to work of those cameras. John and drank a can

:03:19. > :03:23.containing a third of a litre of lemonade and he takes... It took

:03:23. > :03:29.you five minutes to burn off 100 calories. You had water with a

:03:29. > :03:35.touch of strawberry. Finished, 116 calories. Five

:03:35. > :03:42.minutes and 34 seconds to do that. I am not stupid, am I? Getting

:03:42. > :03:46.three hunks to do my testing! But it is also shocking.

:03:46. > :03:50.Are there more calories like-for- like in the flavoured water?

:03:50. > :03:57.Absolutely, because water has no calories but as you saw in the last

:03:57. > :04:01.bottle, with lemon and lime, it had 116 calories. You think, a bit of

:04:02. > :04:07.fruit in my bottle of water, marvellous. But you don't stop to

:04:07. > :04:13.think and those boys were sweating to burn off the 116 calories. The

:04:13. > :04:17.lemonade was a bit smaller but nevertheless, it was 60 calories.

:04:17. > :04:22.The manufacturers say they don't promoted as a health drink. The

:04:22. > :04:26.calorie count is clearly labelled on the bottles, so therefore, what

:04:26. > :04:31.it the problem? We talk a lot on this programme about the psychology

:04:31. > :04:35.of selling at presenting food, and we go in and most of us don't have

:04:35. > :04:39.the time to read the labels properly, so the manufacturer is

:04:39. > :04:44.right in saying it is stated on the label but psychologically you would

:04:44. > :04:49.think, healthy drink, lemon and lime, I will have that instead of

:04:49. > :04:55.the water, not thinking it is over 100 calories. What is the most

:04:55. > :04:58.shocking thing you have come across? We did a lot in scientific

:04:58. > :05:08.laboratories and there was a marvellous boffin who explained

:05:08. > :05:10.

:05:10. > :05:15.that when you go on to die it -- diet food. When they take the fat

:05:15. > :05:21.and sugar out, they have to put something in to make us feel

:05:21. > :05:29.satisfied. It is the equivalent of wallpaper paste. So the scientist,

:05:29. > :05:34.he had his board and a bit of paper, there I am, and I am using the

:05:34. > :05:39.methods sedulous that goes into the food, and mind stuck to be bought a

:05:40. > :05:46.lot more than his did! The this explains a great deal about my

:05:46. > :05:50.diet! Although it is not illegal, and it will not poison you, I do

:05:50. > :05:55.not want to think I am putting wallpaper paste into my stomach!

:05:55. > :06:00.And the government want to clean up food labelling across the board.

:06:00. > :06:06.is a great step forward. All the major supermarkets have agreed this

:06:06. > :06:12.week to put up front the quantities of calories but also a fat, sugar

:06:12. > :06:16.and salt, but already of course, many manufacturing companies are

:06:16. > :06:22.saying they will not adhere to it because it is not mandatory, and it

:06:22. > :06:27.should be mandatory, but you now get into the whole of European law,

:06:27. > :06:33.but at least it is a step in the Rye direction. When you are in the

:06:33. > :06:38.service station, will you look at the labels now? No! I am making

:06:38. > :06:44.them so it will be all beautiful and organic! I know there is less

:06:44. > :06:53.calories in Guinness than regular lager. So it is a low-fat drink!

:06:53. > :06:59.Forget the water! Rip Off Food is on BBC One every week day next week

:06:59. > :07:03.at 9:15am. Thanks, Gloria. You will be coming back later to play a game.

:07:03. > :07:05.Great! The TUC say that last weekend's

:07:05. > :07:09.anti-cuts protests drew around 150,000 people, justifiying its

:07:09. > :07:12.belief that trade unions still have a very vocal role to play in modern

:07:12. > :07:17.Britain. However, others say that the trade

:07:18. > :07:20.union movement has had its day and is simply not relevant any more.

:07:20. > :07:23.We asked Brendan Barber, the outgoing General Secretary of the

:07:23. > :07:30.TUC, to write an open letter to his successor Frances O'Grady, the

:07:30. > :07:34.first woman to ever hold the position.

:07:34. > :07:43.Dear Frances. Congratulations on being elected the first ever woman

:07:43. > :07:52.to lead the TUC. The trade union movement you will lead is a very

:07:52. > :07:57.different one to the one I joined in 1975. Back then, half of all

:07:57. > :08:03.British workers belonged to a union. Many work in heavy industries like

:08:03. > :08:09.steel, coal and engineering. Most women working full-time. The cost

:08:09. > :08:15.of living was high and disputes, and -- most were men working full-

:08:15. > :08:20.time. When Margaret Thatcher was elected in 1979, things became

:08:20. > :08:24.tougher trade unions. New laws were passed making it harder to organise,

:08:24. > :08:32.represent and defend members. Some workers were even denied the right

:08:32. > :08:36.to join a union. By the early 1990s, trade unions or on the defensive.

:08:36. > :08:42.Membership was boarding dramatically. Manufacturing jobs

:08:42. > :08:47.were in decline. Service industries were dominating the economy. It

:08:47. > :08:51.felt like some people were writing us off. There are those who say

:08:51. > :08:55.that with union membership dropping by almost half over the last 30

:08:55. > :08:59.years, we just do not have any relevance in the modern world, and

:08:59. > :09:05.our critics, including organisations like the Institute of

:09:05. > :09:09.Directors, have a particular way they liked to refer to us. The word

:09:09. > :09:15.trade union dinosaurs is bandied around a lot. You must recognise

:09:15. > :09:18.that there is still a decent number of people, some of them in

:09:18. > :09:23.leadership in the trade union movement, who are stuck in the past

:09:23. > :09:29.and more interested in the battles of the 19th 70s. This is a tired

:09:29. > :09:34.cliche. The reality is unions are about delivering greater fairness

:09:34. > :09:37.for people at work but we are also about building successful

:09:37. > :09:43.organisations in a successful economy, and trotting out the old

:09:44. > :09:49.insults about dinosaurs is not recognising the reality. Some of

:09:49. > :09:53.the unions do not seem to be going out on strike to protect services

:09:54. > :09:58.but for more self-interested reasons, most famously a threat in

:09:58. > :10:02.the summer on the eve of the Olympics. Workers never take strike

:10:02. > :10:06.action lightly. It is not the right to characterise their position in

:10:06. > :10:10.this way. Despite criticism like that, I

:10:10. > :10:15.believe trade unions have evolved and adapted over time and are as

:10:15. > :10:20.relevant today as they have ever been. Half of our members today are

:10:20. > :10:27.women. We are focusing on flexible working, child care and maternity

:10:27. > :10:32.rights, too. We are also giving members the opportunity to learn

:10:32. > :10:39.and achieve new qualifications. think the support you get is the

:10:39. > :10:43.most useful thing. I did not have any qualifications when I came here,

:10:43. > :10:48.it was one of the things that was holding me back so it is nice to

:10:48. > :10:53.pop in here. And do some study. believe the unions today are not

:10:53. > :10:59.just about helping people get even, they are also about helping people

:10:59. > :11:04.get on. Most of our members now work in our public services. I feel

:11:04. > :11:08.many of the people we rely on most, teachers, nurses, paramedics and

:11:08. > :11:15.firefighters, can still rely on the unions to win fairness in their

:11:15. > :11:19.jobs. I am confident the same great causes will continue to inspire us.

:11:19. > :11:25.Winning justice and dignity for people at work, and winning greater

:11:25. > :11:30.fairness and equality in society. So Frances, good luck in your new

:11:30. > :11:38.job. Good luck as you speak up for the workers of today and Tamara

:11:38. > :11:44.Howe, and good luck as you shape a new and exciting future -- for

:11:44. > :11:50.today and tomorrow. Yours sincerely, Brendan. Dr Brendan. I am proud to

:11:50. > :11:54.take over the TUC when for the first time in history, we can lead

:11:54. > :12:00.mining unions on an international level, too. Enjoy your retirement,

:12:00. > :12:04.and good luck on the golf course. Frances. Good luck to Frances as

:12:04. > :12:09.well. You are a history graduate, not

:12:09. > :12:12.many people may know that. Do you think unions are still as relevant?

:12:12. > :12:20.They are less powerful but they are still important is the best way of

:12:20. > :12:25.looking at it probably. Do you want a ten-minute answer? No. It is

:12:25. > :12:34.interesting that they go and play golf, I thought that is what the

:12:34. > :12:39.big, bad bosses did. He is retired! OK! You are on tour. You are going

:12:39. > :12:45.through to June next year, 105 Bates, you are in London for two of

:12:45. > :12:52.them. What has got the Pub Landlord bond up? Free-speech, Scottish

:12:52. > :12:58.independence, the euro, Pippa Middleton's behind and many other

:12:58. > :13:04.subjects of important worth and note. 2012 has been a vintage year.

:13:04. > :13:08.Bullying, the Jubilee as well. we could not believe that the Pub

:13:08. > :13:17.Landlord is a team, the legal drinking age. He can vote and

:13:17. > :13:23.everything. -- his 18th. In the last couple of years, he actually

:13:23. > :13:30.now believes he has a message for the nation! Which is preposterous.

:13:30. > :13:36.It is good fun. And there is a DVD coming out next month? Per d6 of

:13:36. > :13:40.November, just in time for Boxing Day. -- 26th November.

:13:40. > :13:46.I love the Scottish. The thing is, the relationship has run its course

:13:46. > :13:51.and that happens. Relationships run their course, things run out of

:13:51. > :13:54.steam and I understand that. People look for different things. If you

:13:54. > :13:59.are in a marriage and one of few earns a good deal more than the

:13:59. > :14:09.other person and the other person had a problem with cholesterol,

:14:09. > :14:09.

:14:09. > :14:15.alcohol and type two diabetes Bob le...

:14:15. > :14:21.There does the Scottish date! We get there in March. We did that in

:14:21. > :14:25.Edinburgh in August and it is fun to do some of that, yeah. The thing

:14:25. > :14:28.I love is that you spent 30 minutes at the beginning of each showed

:14:28. > :14:34.talking to the audience and you have this phenomenal recall, who

:14:34. > :14:41.remember their names of everybody. How do you do that? I don't know.

:14:41. > :14:45.It is practice. At a party, I can't do it. When you meet Alan and

:14:45. > :14:50.Jeffrey at a party, I cannot remember it one minute later. But

:14:50. > :14:56.you have to do it at a gig. And you are thinking of stories all the

:14:57. > :15:02.time. Amazingly, it completely by accident, you will have

:15:02. > :15:12.coincidences that link people. It looks like I drive around with a

:15:12. > :15:18.

:15:18. > :15:22.There are real people. We were talking about you being back on

:15:23. > :15:29.tour but you were doing it in a healthier way this time? We are not

:15:29. > :15:34.eating chocolate or crisps in the car. Gloria will be proud. She did

:15:34. > :15:39.say you were looking trim. Is it right that you take a drum kit on

:15:39. > :15:44.tour? Yes, I used to take want in the dressing room. That must keep

:15:44. > :15:50.you fit? If you have to go down the motorway as much as me, you want an

:15:50. > :15:56.outlet. The Pub Landlord has a well, it is a pint of beer for the boys

:15:56. > :16:03.and a glass of white wine or a fruit based drink for the ladies.

:16:03. > :16:06.It is uncanny the way you did that. You have been practising all day!

:16:07. > :16:11.Back in the 1950s, one pioneering photographer showed Britain that

:16:11. > :16:16.shock-horror, some ladies like a beer as much as the men. That

:16:16. > :16:20.photographer is the extraordinary Grace Robertson. Larry Lamb went to

:16:20. > :16:24.meet her. Grace Robertson's photographs have

:16:24. > :16:28.graced magazine covers around the world. Her pioneering pictures of

:16:28. > :16:36.post-war Britain showed ordinary people as they had never been seen

:16:36. > :16:42.before. Behind the lens, Grace brought a bold, new, feminine view

:16:42. > :16:48.of the world. In 1940 is Britain, when young Grace was trying to get

:16:48. > :16:52.her a start, the idea of a woman working in photojournalism was

:16:52. > :16:58.outrageous. Born in Lancashire in 1930, Grace did not want to be a

:16:58. > :17:02.teacher, nurse or secretary like the other girls. She had other

:17:02. > :17:07.ideas. How did you first start in photography? There was a queue

:17:07. > :17:12.outside the butcher's shop which made me start. I saw two women

:17:12. > :17:17.clutching themselves with laughter. I thought, that is a picture. The

:17:17. > :17:24.whole world lurched at that moment. It is like you talking to me. I am

:17:24. > :17:30.looking at your face because I am seeing how you are responding to me.

:17:30. > :17:34.Her father, Fyfe Robertson, was a writer on Britain's best selling

:17:34. > :17:40.photo magazine Picture Post. But Grace did not want to ride on the

:17:40. > :17:46.back of the family name. I decided to call myself Dick Muir. Why that?

:17:46. > :17:50.I fancied a young man at the tennis tournament whose name was Dick. He

:17:50. > :17:58.never looked in my direction so I thought, I will use your name!

:17:58. > :18:02.Neots was my mother's made name. Dick, aka Grace, sent her work into

:18:02. > :18:06.picture Post. An encouraging note came back from the editor, per

:18:06. > :18:12.severe, young man. Then a year later she finally got a meeting

:18:12. > :18:16.with the editor but she would have to reveal her true identity. I said,

:18:17. > :18:22.I am Grace Robertson. I said I am also Dick Muir. He thought about

:18:22. > :18:30.that and said, oh, God, you why Dick Muir as well, good heavens,

:18:30. > :18:35.come on in! That was the start of my work. There would be no

:18:35. > :18:41.allowances for grace in this man's world. One of her first assignments

:18:41. > :18:45.was spending four days following sheep shearers in Snowdonia. There

:18:45. > :18:52.were 60 dogs. Every now and then someone would yell at me that I was

:18:52. > :18:55.on the edge of a cliff. I was just non-stop or working. She had won

:18:55. > :19:01.respect from the hardy Welsh shepherds as well as her colleagues

:19:01. > :19:08.back at base. But it was a Mother's Day trip here to Margate in 1954

:19:08. > :19:14.that would really make her name. London's slum housing was being

:19:14. > :19:18.knocked down and high-rise flat put up. Neighbourhoods were under

:19:18. > :19:23.threat. Grace would record and a dying tradition, at for Mother's

:19:23. > :19:28.Day Off, the chance for these Bermondsey women to escape their

:19:28. > :19:33.humdrum lives. I realised I had a chance to capture something which

:19:33. > :19:36.was vanishing and I thought it was quite important. They were at 7

:19:36. > :19:40.o'clock in the morning in the pub. They filled the back of the coach

:19:40. > :19:47.with beer as if they thought prohibition might strike on the way

:19:47. > :19:52.to Margate. They kept going the whole day until they staggered off

:19:52. > :19:55.still singing at 2 o'clock in the morning. There had been through two

:19:55. > :20:00.World Wars and the depression in between and they were women who

:20:00. > :20:04.would enjoy themselves if it will kill them. Another exclusively

:20:04. > :20:08.female world at the time, childbirth, would be one of grace's

:20:08. > :20:12.most controversial project. cannot think of anyone who has done

:20:12. > :20:18.such intimate portraits before. Unfortunately, Picture Post got

:20:18. > :20:23.cold feet. They were upset about -- they were worried about upsetting

:20:23. > :20:27.their middle-class readers, and ironically, the women. It was not

:20:27. > :20:32.until 1979 that Grace would publish the photographs herself. Always

:20:32. > :20:39.ahead of her time, at 82, this trailblazer be still capturing real

:20:39. > :20:44.people's lives. Picture Post said, here we are, we are a community,

:20:44. > :20:48.let's talk to each other. I think that is how we saw our work.

:20:48. > :20:52.A what a lovely film and great photos.

:20:52. > :20:55.Those ladies from Bermondsey where women after my own heart, they

:20:55. > :21:01.enjoyed a day out and a bit of alcohol.

:21:01. > :21:04.It is time for gardener watched day four. After finding an actual snake

:21:04. > :21:13.in a composting stick, Lord knows what Mike and Brando will find

:21:13. > :21:17.today -- time for Garden Watch. Our One Show garden watched street

:21:17. > :21:23.in Gloucestershire is full of stunning lawns and flowerbeds in

:21:23. > :21:30.full bloom and lots of colour. Keeping gardens looking this way is

:21:30. > :21:36.hard work. At number 54, Trevor has got a problem. What happened there

:21:36. > :21:41.was I was caught by surprise by a snowstorm. It knuckled under the

:21:41. > :21:51.weight. This wilderness might be glad -- might be a problem for his

:21:51. > :21:52.

:21:52. > :22:00.fruit growing plans but it is a haven for insects. I am going in.

:22:00. > :22:06.Wood lice by the bucket load! they all the same type? You can see

:22:06. > :22:11.they are quite shiny. That tells me it is common shiny wood lice. Wood

:22:11. > :22:15.lice need damp places to live which is why you will find them under

:22:15. > :22:21.stones. They are like garden dustbin men recycling your plant

:22:21. > :22:28.material. You can identify this. Has it got a white lip or Ray Brown

:22:28. > :22:35.lip? It looks white to me. And it has got bans on. That is called a

:22:35. > :22:40.white lipped banded snail. Get away. Banded snails are less damaging to

:22:40. > :22:47.your plants, preferring the likes of nettles. They are vital protein

:22:47. > :22:56.for birds and hedgehogs. This is something. Brilliant! That is a

:22:56. > :23:02.brilliant find. This needs -- this will eat soft in Virk to bricks and

:23:02. > :23:07.corpses and even her over-ripe fruit which is why it is in here.

:23:07. > :23:12.The bucks they eat are the ones which eat your plants like aphids

:23:12. > :23:17.so they are useful in the garden. Trevor seems impressed with his

:23:17. > :23:23.fruit cage bucks but there is more to show here. And I have a plan.

:23:23. > :23:28.Let's set some small mammal traps. We will get up early and see what

:23:28. > :23:32.we have caught. The traps are stuffed with food and bedding to

:23:32. > :23:38.keep anything they catch warm. We will leave them overnight when most

:23:38. > :23:43.animals are most active. Up the road as night falls, gives

:23:43. > :23:48.us a chance to answer a question about another nocturnal beast. Amy

:23:48. > :23:57.has got a well established garden pond with neat, although with three

:23:57. > :24:07.British species, she is not sure which ones she has got -- newts.

:24:07. > :24:08.

:24:08. > :24:14.That is beautiful. Can you see any spots on the base of its throat?

:24:14. > :24:21.One different - at one difference is the smooth newts have got a

:24:21. > :24:26.spotty throat. Which is the most common species? This one is. The

:24:27. > :24:32.great crested newts are really rare. Are they likely to be here all year

:24:32. > :24:37.round? You generally only find them in the pond in the breeding season

:24:37. > :24:42.so spring and summer. These guys may move out over the next few

:24:42. > :24:52.weeks and fined a wet patch in a log pile to spend the winter. Do

:24:52. > :24:54.

:24:54. > :25:00.you want to put him back? Yes. at him, brilliant.

:25:00. > :25:05.It is 7am and I am back at the mammal traps with Trevor before any

:25:05. > :25:14.captured animals get too hot, stressed or hungry. This one feels

:25:14. > :25:21.heavy. This is a mouse. It has huge ears and a long tail. This is a

:25:21. > :25:25.wood mouse. It is the most abundant mammal. It is a garden animal. You

:25:25. > :25:29.will not find it in the house. Because they are largely vegetarian,

:25:30. > :25:35.I get the feeling that they are enjoying the fruit which you are

:25:35. > :25:41.not. They are taking advantage of the BlackBerrys and raspberries. We

:25:41. > :25:47.went on to find another two and would mice. Along with the Mini

:25:47. > :25:53.beasts, it has proved that the fruit cage is a haven for garden

:25:53. > :25:58.wildlife. How did Trevor feel about it? Have we persuaded you eat to

:25:58. > :26:03.keep it as a nature sanctuary? tempted. A good excuse not to do

:26:03. > :26:08.anything with it. Sometimes not doing anything is good. I want to

:26:08. > :26:15.keep a corner of the garden wild so maybe that is the one. Time to lose

:26:16. > :26:19.a mouse. We had in that film of the common

:26:19. > :26:29.shiny woodlouse and the white lipped banded snail which have

:26:29. > :26:30.

:26:30. > :26:36.given us an idea. Gloria is back so it is time to play... Be Stunningly

:26:36. > :26:44.Obvious Nature Name Game! What we are going To do Is reveal some

:26:44. > :26:54.animals very slowly, obviously named animals. Shout out what you

:26:54. > :26:59.

:26:59. > :27:06.see. Mrs number one. Say what you see. It is the wrinkled eared, pink.

:27:06. > :27:14.How all big eared? Big eared bat face. Pretty close, Brown, long-

:27:15. > :27:24.eared bat. You can have that. This one is four years. I cannot say

:27:25. > :27:26.

:27:26. > :27:35.what that is! It is a monkey. Stay with it. It is a big nosed monkey

:27:35. > :27:42.faced monkey. It is the long-nosed monkey, very good. Their nose grows

:27:42. > :27:50.to 17.5 centimetres. You know what they say about a big nose like that.

:27:50. > :27:57.Enough! Gloria, this is for you. It is a fish but what sort? It is the

:27:57. > :28:06.one I'd scaly bigmouth fish. What shape is it. It is a big blob.

:28:06. > :28:16.exactly! It is called a blob fish. It is then danger of coming extinct.

:28:16. > :28:16.

:28:16. > :28:23.-- it is in danger of becoming extinct. This is for you, Al.

:28:23. > :28:32.a walking, tap-dancing Fred Astaire fish. Look at the lips. It is a

:28:32. > :28:42.Mick Jagger fish. It is a red lipped fish. A red elect that fish.

:28:42. > :28:42.

:28:42. > :28:50.We have her tie-breaker. It is a long-haired spindly grey... Oh, my

:28:50. > :29:00.goodness! Get is a squirrel wearing a Halloween mask. Well done, I'm

:29:00. > :29:01.

:29:01. > :29:06.going to give this to Gloria. It is sour one showed cheap tiny Tracey.