:00:20. > :00:28.Hello and welcome to the One Show. We reckon the nights show is almost
:00:29. > :00:36.there. We have got David Walliams, he is our quizmaster. We also have
:00:37. > :00:42.footage of the woodland sleepover that we can't take our eyes off!
:00:43. > :00:46.Absolutely beautiful. As far as guests go, to be honest, it's been
:00:47. > :00:57.touch and go, have you managed to get through? The Bouquet residents,
:00:58. > :01:01.Lady of the house speaking? We were just wondering whether you were free
:01:02. > :01:08.for an appearance on the One Show tonight? How many RU? It's just me
:01:09. > :01:14.and Alex and a few friends in the audience. It's no good being elegant
:01:15. > :01:17.if there is no one there to see it. They will be about 4 million
:01:18. > :01:25.watching at home so we will see you later today? Today?! Well it is
:01:26. > :01:31.rather short notice! But don't worry, we shan't let you down.
:01:32. > :01:43.Goodbye. And of course she didn't let us down, please welcome Patricia
:01:44. > :01:49.Routledge! Did you enjoy that? That was a very clever piece of knitting
:01:50. > :01:57.up. You must plot doing those phone calls. We had a ball, it was great
:01:58. > :02:02.fun. When the scripts turn up, did you look for the phone calls? One
:02:03. > :02:09.pilot script turned up, and it arrived on my mat very late one
:02:10. > :02:14.evening, and I had been at the theatre, I had been out to supper,
:02:15. > :02:20.and I got home about a quarter past one, and I thought... There it is,
:02:21. > :02:26.I'm not going to read it now, I will read it in the morning. Then of
:02:27. > :02:29.course curiosity overtook me and I thought, I will know in the first
:02:30. > :02:36.five pages, you do, if it's going anywhere. I read through the whole
:02:37. > :02:42.thing and was chuckling away, at a quarter to two in the morning. I
:02:43. > :02:51.thought, I think I can knit this person together! A lot of knitting
:02:52. > :02:54.going on! She let from the page. You brought her to life beautifully. Now
:02:55. > :03:00.you have moved on to documentaries. We're going to hear all about your
:03:01. > :03:05.documentary on Beatrix Potter. It has been spiced up with the addition
:03:06. > :03:11.of this cross dressing cat, we are very excited about, she's called
:03:12. > :03:16.Kitty in Boots. First, have you ever sold or given away a mobile phone?
:03:17. > :03:18.If yes, you have properly taken all the precautions and pressed the
:03:19. > :03:26.eraser everything button, haven't you? For some mobile phone users,
:03:27. > :03:32.eraser everything doesn't mean what it says. We all have personal
:03:33. > :03:37.information we would never dream of handing over to a complete stranger.
:03:38. > :03:44.Can I give you my bank details and passwords? That's exactly what we're
:03:45. > :03:46.doing if we get rid of all sell our smartphones, even if we think we
:03:47. > :03:55.have deleted how most private details. Next to a flaw in the way
:03:56. > :03:59.the phones erase data, passwords, PIN numbers and personal texts could
:04:00. > :04:04.all be retrieved from some old handsets -- thanks to. According to
:04:05. > :04:09.one survey, one in three people who bought an old mobile phone found the
:04:10. > :04:15.previous owner's most intimate personal details still on it. So how
:04:16. > :04:20.is it happening? Most people rely on the restore factory settings
:04:21. > :04:25.function to delete their data. But this professor, one of the top
:04:26. > :04:34.information security experts in the UK, says it may not work on some old
:04:35. > :04:37.phones. Phones like Apple and BlackBerry do it properly, phones
:04:38. > :04:43.using the android system don't, they are still leaving residual data on
:04:44. > :04:49.the phone when you do a reset. We have brought ten second-hand android
:04:50. > :04:58.phones online and the professor is checking them all forensic software.
:04:59. > :05:04.In one case, it's clear that restoring factory settings hasn't
:05:05. > :05:08.done what it was meant to do. I have got their contact database, names,
:05:09. > :05:13.mobile phone numbers. And those are actual texts? If you go through
:05:14. > :05:18.that, you will find credit card details, personal accounts,
:05:19. > :05:22.everything is there. It would be a jackpot fined for anyone looking to
:05:23. > :05:30.steal your identity. The phone itself is a Samsung Galaxy Europa.
:05:31. > :05:35.Samsung insist only forensic software could retrieve the
:05:36. > :05:38.information. This kit costs about ?10,000, if we are talking about
:05:39. > :05:44.organised crime, wanting to steal your identity, affordable. Google
:05:45. > :05:49.said that particular Samsung phone uses an old version of the android
:05:50. > :05:54.system which doesn't have the most up-to-date security protection. That
:05:55. > :05:59.will come as little comfort to anyone who has already sold their
:06:00. > :06:03.old phone. What about the person selling this phone who thought he
:06:04. > :06:07.had deleted his private information? He is a teenager who didn't want to
:06:08. > :06:11.appear on camera. But his parent said I could give a ring on his new
:06:12. > :06:18.phone to let him know what we found on his old one. Do you think you
:06:19. > :06:24.write it? Years, I've erased old data, text messages, my girlfriend
:06:25. > :06:34.at the time, you don't expect it, really. Credit card details were on
:06:35. > :06:39.there as well. Someone else could have bought my phone and done a lot
:06:40. > :06:45.of damage to my life. I can't really trust technology. Don't worry, we
:06:46. > :06:51.will all make sure it is a raised now for good. I appreciate it! When
:06:52. > :06:54.it comes to selling through the company, surely they know it will
:06:55. > :07:00.they are doing? This is another phone we bought online through a
:07:01. > :07:05.second-hand seller. Absolutely everything is still on here. Contact
:07:06. > :07:09.details, photos of the previous owner's family and young children,
:07:10. > :07:16.job applications, even online banking details. The company says it
:07:17. > :07:20.does have processes for data wiping but admits in this case, the
:07:21. > :07:28.teachers were not followed correctly. As for all the data we
:07:29. > :07:34.found, with the expert help of this professor, it's now been deleted,
:07:35. > :07:38.this time for good. Some very good advice there. You can also donate
:07:39. > :07:43.your old phone to charity but to all you can to delete everything first.
:07:44. > :07:50.Plenty of advice I will be looking at online! A bit late! For the next
:07:51. > :07:58.one! As we were saying earlier on, it's an exciting day. A big day for
:07:59. > :08:05.Beatrix Potter. There has been the announcement of a new story.
:08:06. > :08:09.Released in September? Discovered two years ago but they have kept the
:08:10. > :08:16.timing and the timing of the documentary I have done, absolutely
:08:17. > :08:24.to a T. It'll be published in September. And it's quite unlike
:08:25. > :08:38.anything anyone expects from her. It is called... The Tale of the Kitty
:08:39. > :08:47.in Boots. She is a cross dresser... There is a little bit of doubt about
:08:48. > :08:58.her gender. She is ahead... Very different! Not cosy at all! But this
:08:59. > :09:04.documentary has really been a labour of love you, and it's full of
:09:05. > :09:07.surprises. Let's take a look. We have a selection of early drawings
:09:08. > :09:18.by Beatrix Potter, beginning with a sketchbook. She created this when
:09:19. > :09:27.she was nine. My goodness! She used rabbits in imaginative drawings. And
:09:28. > :09:31.the humour is there, it's wonderful. I think a lot of people aren't aware
:09:32. > :09:38.of the finesse... The talent that was on that page! She was the most
:09:39. > :09:42.gifted artist. There was an exhibition at the Dulwich Gallery
:09:43. > :09:48.about 15 years ago of works that most of us had never seen. And she
:09:49. > :09:52.could make the side of the house look interesting. Her sense of
:09:53. > :09:59.draughtsmanship, the delicacy of everything. Wonderful. She had a way
:10:00. > :10:04.of trying to persuade all of those who maybe weren't fans... She could
:10:05. > :10:10.persuade anybody to do anything, which she finally did in later life!
:10:11. > :10:18.She could put a stop to things. She complained about them exercising
:10:19. > :10:24.low-flying machines over Lake Windermere, got it stopped.
:10:25. > :10:27.Wonderful. You have been a fan of her for most of your life, but where
:10:28. > :10:35.their things in the documentary you were still surprised by an things
:10:36. > :10:39.you learned along the way? Well, you learn more and more about the
:10:40. > :10:47.character of this woman and depth of commitment and the focus and the
:10:48. > :10:53.ability to deal with whatever comes along and make something positive
:10:54. > :10:57.out of it. Such as, she fell in love, she was engaged, and within
:10:58. > :11:07.two weeks of the announcement of the engagement, he died. Oh, no! It must
:11:08. > :11:14.have been absolutely devastating. And particularly as her parents
:11:15. > :11:18.didn't approve of the engagement, because he was in trade. He was one
:11:19. > :11:24.of the publishing firm that published the little books.
:11:25. > :11:27.Beautiful man. Here you are now with all of this information, what is the
:11:28. > :11:35.process of making a documentary like? We know you as a performer. It
:11:36. > :11:40.is performing in a sense, I do see this. I have the highest regard for
:11:41. > :11:54.good presenters, but it's very exacting... We come in, and did we
:11:55. > :11:58.go away, hands a lot. I can stick my hand in the pocket and get on with
:11:59. > :12:15.it. I did know a lot about her because I defected her in a play in
:12:16. > :12:20.but 96. -- depicted her in a play in 1996. Playing someone who has been
:12:21. > :12:25.alive means you research. She took over. Are there any other subject
:12:26. > :12:32.you feel you would like to look closer at and maybe make a film
:12:33. > :12:36.about? I have been invited to think that may be doing another one, I
:12:37. > :12:42.think I will have to have a long lie down first! There are little ideas
:12:43. > :12:51.coming into my head. We will keep an eye out! Will put a film on, put
:12:52. > :12:58.your feet up! The programme is on more for the night at nine p.m..
:12:59. > :13:04.David Walliams is trying to give the children what Jamie Oliver has done
:13:05. > :13:08.for school dinners. He has promised to establish 200 book clubs in
:13:09. > :13:12.primary schools along with Nicky Morgan, and yesterday he met the
:13:13. > :13:18.target. He has knobbly knees and turned out toes. He was the stinky
:13:19. > :13:24.yeast stinker that ever lived. He had a strange but pleasant little
:13:25. > :13:31.face. All children except one grow up. That could all be said to
:13:32. > :13:35.describe David Walliams is even written a children's book but
:13:36. > :13:41.another description could be a champion for children's literacy.
:13:42. > :13:45.Because today, he is here at this primary School, to open one of the
:13:46. > :13:50.200 new primary school book clubs in a quest to promote reading among
:13:51. > :13:53.children. This initiative, was it started because you wanted to
:13:54. > :13:59.inspire children to read more because there is a lack there? For
:14:00. > :14:03.me, what's important is interacting with those children who don't like
:14:04. > :14:07.reading and who don't get a chance to, those are the ones we need to
:14:08. > :14:12.reach. We also want to encourage parents to read to their children, I
:14:13. > :14:20.am a parent myself and what great pleasures in life is reading to my
:14:21. > :14:28.son. What were you like as a child? I wasn't a voracious reader until I
:14:29. > :14:31.found a book, Charlie and the chocolate factory, it gave me a real
:14:32. > :14:38.love of reading. It got me on the path. It seems simple enough. Being
:14:39. > :14:42.able to read means you're more likely to be successful at school,
:14:43. > :14:47.get better grades and have more choice when it comes to work. But
:14:48. > :14:51.what are the challenges that children have these days with
:14:52. > :14:54.reading? Some of the challenges are about living in the modern world,
:14:55. > :15:01.watching TV, playing your computer games, all of that interaction with
:15:02. > :15:07.technology pulls away from going, I consider calmly and read my book.
:15:08. > :15:11.Winning children over with reading is making it enjoyable and fun, it
:15:12. > :15:17.gives them something. If you do that, they will see what books have
:15:18. > :15:24.to offer. What difference has having the book clubs here made?
:15:25. > :15:29.The engagement and enthusiasm can be seen in the book clubs, and their
:15:30. > :15:33.motivation has just increased tenfold. One way to see how much the
:15:34. > :15:38.children have gained from the book clubs is to put them to the
:15:39. > :15:47.challenge. Hello, and welcome to the book club challenge. Fingers on
:15:48. > :15:54.buzzers. What is the colour of the code that Peter Rabbit wears? Blue.
:15:55. > :16:03.-- the code. That is right. What is the name of the mansion where Joel
:16:04. > :16:14.lived in billionaire boy? That is correct. In the diary of the
:16:15. > :16:17.would-be kid, what does Greg put on? What country does that their
:16:18. > :16:25.Paddington comes from? I think it was Belgium. It wasn't Belgium, they
:16:26. > :16:33.don't have them in Belgium. What colour are the spikes on the?
:16:34. > :16:44.Gruffalo Purple. Correct. What are the houses called in Harry Potter?
:16:45. > :16:52.That is correct, well done. What are the final scores? Bookworms on 55
:16:53. > :17:01.but the ninjas have won with 130. Well done. Congratulations.
:17:02. > :17:10.Thanks, David, and a reminder Chris Evans' 500 Words competition is up
:17:11. > :17:11.and running Just go to the Radio 2
:17:12. > :17:16.website for more details. We know that you used to have a real
:17:17. > :17:23.passion for singing when you were younger. We have some music of you
:17:24. > :17:29.singing from the 1980s on Wogan. What did you love so much? That I
:17:30. > :17:36.could do it! I thought everybody could. Oh, no! I thought everybody
:17:37. > :17:49.could sing. It brings you such a sense of well-being. This end note!
:17:50. > :17:55.Now there is a sense of well-being! There is more where that came from.
:17:56. > :18:00.From singing to acting. One of your good friends is Alan Bennett who
:18:01. > :18:06.came here and he was a delight. I am sure. How was your working
:18:07. > :18:10.relationship with him? Very good, there is nothing more complementary
:18:11. > :18:19.than having someone as brilliant a writer as he is writing specifically
:18:20. > :18:26.for you. He wrote for other favourite actresses too but I was
:18:27. > :18:34.what I call the guinea pig, he wrote the first monologue for me, A Woman
:18:35. > :18:39.Of No Importance, about a woman who had cancer and you followed her
:18:40. > :18:43.story. You never knew whether she knew or not. Extraordinary piece.
:18:44. > :18:53.Going back to the point of the joy of words. And you see, we are both
:18:54. > :19:01.from the North country. I am from Cheshire, he is from Yorkshire! They
:19:02. > :19:02.look down on us! Now we are out and about in the countryside, we have
:19:03. > :19:09.something for you. Now, Alex, how many birds can you
:19:10. > :19:11.fit on a tree branch? Well if you're a long-tailed tit and
:19:12. > :19:22.it's cold, I'd say about 14? The recent cold snap has seen
:19:23. > :19:27.temperatures plummeting. With deep frost even penetrating into the far
:19:28. > :19:31.south-west. It makes for some beautiful winter scenes, but it also
:19:32. > :19:38.presents a real challenge for our smallest animals. I have come to
:19:39. > :19:41.South Devon to track down one of my favourite birds and find out how
:19:42. > :19:48.they are coping with the chilly winter nights. Long-tailed tits are
:19:49. > :19:52.perhaps the most sociable of all British birds. Between July and
:19:53. > :19:58.February, they gather in close-knit family groups. Often seen travelling
:19:59. > :20:02.together through the tree tops as they forage for their insect prey.
:20:03. > :20:07.It is a social behaviour which is unique amongst our birdlife.
:20:08. > :20:09.Scientists think the main reason that long-tailed tits stay in groups
:20:10. > :20:18.is that they can stick together for bodily warm overnight. I have never
:20:19. > :20:22.seen this before. I'm going to meet a man who can hopefully give me a
:20:23. > :20:27.chance to catch up with this wonderful winter spectacle.
:20:28. > :20:30.Naturalist Jon Walters has been keeping tabs on a flock of
:20:31. > :20:37.long-tailed tits near his home in dog Bess. How did you track them
:20:38. > :20:40.down because they are quite shy? They are quite noisy, you can pick
:20:41. > :20:45.them up. The tricky bit is following them. You follow them through the
:20:46. > :20:50.woodland. To start with their eight or nine birds in the roost, but a
:20:51. > :20:57.few weeks ago another flock joined this one, so a super roost formed,
:20:58. > :21:05.up to 17 birds at once. The roost is just over here? It is in a little
:21:06. > :21:09.Hollybush. Let's get in position. We had deep into the wood to try and
:21:10. > :21:16.track down the birds as they settle down to roost. And we are rewarded
:21:17. > :21:23.almost immediately. All of a sudden we have seen seven or rate coming in
:21:24. > :21:27.very quietly. -- seven or eight. I love the way they nuzzle their way
:21:28. > :21:35.into the middle. They look cute but when they want to get to a warm
:21:36. > :21:39.place, they really get in. Is there a pecking order? Obviously in the
:21:40. > :21:44.middle it is going to be more warm. The birds on the outside will be
:21:45. > :21:50.last year's Young, the subordinates. The other birds are dominant over
:21:51. > :21:55.them. This is a tiny bird and conserving hate really matters. It
:21:56. > :21:58.is essential. We have probably two families joining together, this is
:21:59. > :22:03.the only way that the tiny bird can survive. They can keep their
:22:04. > :22:09.temperatures up by snuggling together. When they have finished
:22:10. > :22:14.jostling for position, all 16 birds settled down for the night. I can't
:22:15. > :22:20.imagine many people have seen this enchanting winter spectacle. It is
:22:21. > :22:23.one of those behaviours that is happening all around the country but
:22:24. > :22:31.it is tricky to be in the right place at the right time. They are
:22:32. > :22:34.very sweet. You can't beat footage like that. Hyacinth Bucket didn't
:22:35. > :22:45.get on very well in the countryside. Let's have a little reminder.
:22:46. > :22:56.LAUGHTER Ooh!
:22:57. > :23:04.APPLAUSE I love your reaction, as soon as you
:23:05. > :23:13.saw what we were playing you said, oh, my goodness. Poor horse! What
:23:14. > :23:20.are your memories of that scene? The horse was very well disciplined. I
:23:21. > :23:26.wasn't! We had great fun, I remember that day very clearly. And then of
:23:27. > :23:34.course the horse bolted, didn't it? We all member what happened next.
:23:35. > :23:37.Last night, three men who were jailed alongside Nelson Mandela in
:23:38. > :23:43.1964 came together for a reunion here in the UK. Joining them for the
:23:44. > :23:49.event was the campaigner Peter Hain. He almost went to jail as well but
:23:50. > :23:56.as he told us, he was saved by an eagle eyed and rather athletic
:23:57. > :24:00.schoolboy. In the early afternoon of October the 24th 1975, a man walked
:24:01. > :24:07.into a now closed branch of Barclays Bank here in Putney, and stole ?490.
:24:08. > :24:12.There were plenty of eyewitnesses, the man was arrested and picked out
:24:13. > :24:15.in an identity parade. But what turned the open and shut case into
:24:16. > :24:19.an international scandal was that the suspect was a well-known
:24:20. > :24:30.political figure. He was Peter Hain, now Lord Hain. He was a well-known
:24:31. > :24:34.student radical, a supporter of the anti-apartheid movement, he
:24:35. > :24:37.protested against the South African regime and is the juices that did
:24:38. > :24:45.business with them, like Barclay's Bank. Was the bank job the ultimate
:24:46. > :24:52.student protest? So, did you do it? Of course I didn't do it but I came
:24:53. > :24:57.close to being convicted. I went to get a typewriter ribbon to type some
:24:58. > :25:00.university work up and I came back and there was a knock on the door
:25:01. > :25:04.from the police. Arresting me for bank theft. The eyewitness
:25:05. > :25:09.statements differed and the fingerprint recovered from the scene
:25:10. > :25:14.was not Hain's by the police were convinced and ordered an ID parade.
:25:15. > :25:20.The London Evening Standard carried a front-page story with my picture
:25:21. > :25:26.saying" Peter Hain due to appear in an identification parade". The bank
:25:27. > :25:30.staff all said that they hadn't seen it, and I was a sitting duck and
:25:31. > :25:35.they picked me out. Today the newspaper coverage would have made
:25:36. > :25:41.the case I'm safe but in 1975 the pointed finger was enough for Hain
:25:42. > :25:46.to be charged with robbery. Not guilty, I can't believe I am facing
:25:47. > :25:52.these absurd chances. It turned out dark forces were at work. In 1969
:25:53. > :25:55.Hain had infuriated South Africa when he organised mass protests
:25:56. > :26:01.against the Springbok rugby team's tour of the UK. In South Africa I
:26:02. > :26:07.was regarded as public enemy number one. Bassong me as bringing politics
:26:08. > :26:14.into sport. Actually I was trying to take South Africa's racist politics
:26:15. > :26:19.out of sport. The South African police boss later revealed a plot
:26:20. > :26:26.involved in hiring a Peter Hain lookalike for the job, putting the
:26:27. > :26:33.real Peter Hain and -- under severe and is. The double was taken out of
:26:34. > :26:37.the country. Peter Hain was set on eight journey that could have ended
:26:38. > :26:46.in prison until he met an unlikely fellow traveller. The House of
:26:47. > :26:50.Lords, please. That day in 1975, schoolboy Terry was bunking off
:26:51. > :26:53.lessons with his friends and they saw bank staff pursuing the robber
:26:54. > :27:01.and they joined in. Terry was soon leading the Chase. I was gaining on
:27:02. > :27:05.him and I could have caught him. He turned around and look at me and my
:27:06. > :27:12.bottle went and I thought, that's it. Terry was the only witness who
:27:13. > :27:17.got a good look at the robber. I was saved by an amazing young boy, who
:27:18. > :27:20.was a witness in a million, my solicitor said, who stood up in the
:27:21. > :27:25.court and told the truth. Terry and Peter haven't seen each other since
:27:26. > :27:30.the trial ended 40 years ago and today programme that is bringing
:27:31. > :27:33.them together for the first time. -- today programme macro is bringing
:27:34. > :27:35.them together. Nice to see you again.
:27:36. > :27:42.You didn't give evidence to the police, so how come you gave
:27:43. > :27:46.evidence at the trial? It came up on the TV that this young Liberal
:27:47. > :27:51.leader had been accused of a bank robbery, which I had seen and I knew
:27:52. > :27:54.it wasn't him. I told my father and he said we had to do something about
:27:55. > :28:00.it. People are giving you quite a hard time. Really hard time, yeah.
:28:01. > :28:07.And in court, they kept asking the same things over and over, and I was
:28:08. > :28:11.telling the truth. The truth in the end was quite simple. As the
:28:12. > :28:15.apartheid regime crumbled, the secret files were thrown into the
:28:16. > :28:20.fire and Peter Hain was found not guilty, clearing the way for a
:28:21. > :28:23.political career that couldn't be mistaken for anybody else's. All
:28:24. > :28:30.thanks to an observant schoolboy who did the right thing. What a reunion
:28:31. > :28:32.that was! Brilliant story. That's all we got time for tonight. A big
:28:33. > :28:40.thank you to Patricia. Don't forget, Beatrix
:28:41. > :28:43.Potter with Patricia Routledge is on tonight at 9pm on More 4.
:28:44. > :28:49.Tomorrow we will go Dad's Army crazy, Catherine Zeta Jones, Michael
:28:50. > :28:50.Gambon and some of the other stars of the match anticipated film will
:28:51. > :28:56.be here. Winterwatch is back.
:28:57. > :29:00.It's been an extraordinary winter, and we'll be bringing you
:29:01. > :29:03.extraordinary wildlife. We've got eagles fighting over food,
:29:04. > :29:07.otters rescued from the flood, and we're on the trail
:29:08. > :29:10.of the highland tiger.