:00:19. > :00:25.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.
:00:26. > :00:31.With the Rio Olympic Games only ten days away, we are about to take you
:00:32. > :00:37.back 32 years to relive one of and talked about moment in Olympic
:00:38. > :00:42.history. Let's set the scene, it is the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los
:00:43. > :00:48.Angeles and everyone is focused on the 3000 metres final. Yes, it was
:00:49. > :00:53.the race everyone was waiting for. The word record-breaking American
:00:54. > :00:57.against the world record-breaking barefoot South African, representing
:00:58. > :01:00.Great Britain. The stakes could not have been higher, the world was
:01:01. > :01:09.watching and then this happened. COMMENTATOR: Barefooted, she is
:01:10. > :01:12.happier barefooted, Dekhar is down. The world champion and now one of
:01:13. > :01:18.the favourites is flat out on the infield. Mary Decker-Slaney out on
:01:19. > :01:25.the race. I think her foot caught me and to avoid pushing her, I fell. I
:01:26. > :01:30.don't think there was any question that she was in the wrong. Together
:01:31. > :01:35.for the first time on live television since that very famous
:01:36. > :01:43.incident, it is Mary Decker-Slaney and Zola Budd. CHEERING
:01:44. > :01:46.Welcome to you both. Goodness, it was fascinating just watching both
:01:47. > :01:52.of your faces when that clip came on. Still obviously very emotional
:01:53. > :01:58.for both of you. We are going to talk about that at length a bit
:01:59. > :02:02.later in the show. We are. It struck me, having seen that clip, watched
:02:03. > :02:05.the documentary and invited you today, we put you in the same
:02:06. > :02:09.dressing room and Amad Butt, hang on a minute, is anything right? But you
:02:10. > :02:12.have been travelling the world together and we're very much made
:02:13. > :02:17.up. I do think there is anything to make up about. I don't think there
:02:18. > :02:23.was anything between as anyway, it was all the media. We were never on
:02:24. > :02:28.a bad footing after the fall. It was all media hype. It is all documented
:02:29. > :02:32.in this documentary called The Fall, which sort of said what happened in
:02:33. > :02:36.the lead up to the Olympics, what happened during the final and the
:02:37. > :02:40.aftermath. Hopefully we can share that with our viewers a bit later.
:02:41. > :02:44.Thank you for joining us. If you are about to get married, you might find
:02:45. > :02:49.this next film a bit difficult to watch. Imagine the agony, OK? You
:02:50. > :02:52.have been looking forward to a dream wedding and then suddenly it is
:02:53. > :02:56.snatched away from you right at the last minute. That is the nightmare
:02:57. > :03:03.scenario that came true for a host of unlikely scenarios. Joe Crowley
:03:04. > :03:09.with what was the best man to tell us more. Welcome to The One Show
:03:10. > :03:18.wedding of the year. Not mine, there is. Gail oh, and Iain are tying the
:03:19. > :03:25.knot. But the happy couple did not almost make it down to the aisle,
:03:26. > :03:31.thanks to a rogue wedding planner. This woman Michelle McMorris, she
:03:32. > :03:36.ran happy talk events in Glasgow, which hired out everything from
:03:37. > :03:44.dance floors to ornate centrepieces. Gail spent ?1200 here. I just wanted
:03:45. > :03:50.the finishing touches to our day. I had always wanted my sparkly dance
:03:51. > :03:56.floor, my candelabras, I thought why not? Just weeks before the big day,
:03:57. > :04:00.her wedding planner shut up shop without warning. My stomach was
:04:01. > :04:06.churning, and I became really upset, because it was a sudden realisation
:04:07. > :04:11.that I had lost all the items I had booked, but not only that, I have
:04:12. > :04:15.lost so much money as well. And Gail was not the only bride left in the
:04:16. > :04:18.lurch was not pulling McEwen and Graham Strachan had handed over
:04:19. > :04:23.several hundred pounds to happy talk to add sparkle to their big day.
:04:24. > :04:28.After it closed down, they found Michelle McMorris less than happy to
:04:29. > :04:32.talk. We were e-mailing, the e-mails were coming back to save e-mail
:04:33. > :04:36.account had been closed, website no longer existed, even phoning was
:04:37. > :04:41.going straight answer phone. It was gut-wrenching. I don't lie. There
:04:42. > :04:46.were a lot of tears. It makes me more angry that summary had actually
:04:47. > :04:49.planned this. It is the lowest of the loan. Michelle McMorris
:04:50. > :04:56.disappeared, leaving 200 brides out of pocket. Many had no insurance or
:04:57. > :05:03.credit card protection in place, so have lost the lot. My daughter Kelly
:05:04. > :05:09.paid 2300 in total. 2300? Oh my goodness. Weeden she did it as a
:05:10. > :05:15.bank transfer, no comeback, so she has lost it, that's it. That is it
:05:16. > :05:20.standing here? That is my centrepiece in the window.
:05:21. > :05:25.Everything is in the back as well. How angry were you when she found
:05:26. > :05:29.out you had done a runner? -- when she found -- when you find that she
:05:30. > :05:35.had done a runner? To run away with it all is just horrendous,
:05:36. > :05:38.horrendous. Lin Glasgow worked at Happy Que talk events during its
:05:39. > :05:42.final six months and is now having to save some of the wedding is left
:05:43. > :05:49.hanging in the balance free from charge. Most weekends we had about
:05:50. > :05:54.20 weddings to go, and in the summer profit rise that was about ?40,000
:05:55. > :05:59.per month. So it seems the firm wasn't a casualty of austerity.
:06:00. > :06:03.Whatever the reasons, anxious brides to be like Gail now face paying out
:06:04. > :06:09.all over again if their big day is to go ahead. After all the problems,
:06:10. > :06:12.how has it turned out? Absolutely fantastic. I could not have asked
:06:13. > :06:18.for a better day. What do you think Michelle right now? She is probably
:06:19. > :06:21.refers -- the furthest person from it right now because I'm having such
:06:22. > :06:26.a great time with family and friends. I just hope she gets the
:06:27. > :06:31.punishment she deserves. So where is R planner who has run away hiding?
:06:32. > :06:36.She is not at her shop and she has moved out of her rented house. And
:06:37. > :06:43.new Happy Talk companies have already been registered, but not in
:06:44. > :06:45.Scotland. It seems Michelle McMorris and her family have upped sticks and
:06:46. > :06:51.moved the other side of the Atlantic. We've tried to contact her
:06:52. > :06:54.in Florida, but our e-mails, letters and phone calls have gone
:06:55. > :06:58.unanswered. Back here in Scotland, we think there is one very special
:06:59. > :07:02.wedding message she needs to hear. Sorry, Michelle, but this is one
:07:03. > :07:07.wedding you didn't manage to real income isn't that right? CHEERING
:07:08. > :07:10.And if Michelle McMorris sets foot back in Scotland, she will find
:07:11. > :07:14.trading standards ready and waiting to talk to her. For these guys, only
:07:15. > :07:21.one thing left to do, party! CHEERING
:07:22. > :07:25.Big congratulations to Gail and Iain, so glad their day was ruined
:07:26. > :07:29.in the enemy had their magic moment. Absolutely. Mary, we have to comment
:07:30. > :07:35.here that you married a Brit and he is with us in the studio. It is none
:07:36. > :07:42.other than Richard Slaney, you may recognise from Britain's strongest
:07:43. > :07:53.man, 1992. There you are in order to glory. He could lift up the entire
:07:54. > :07:57.audience! Let's talk more about this incredible documentary, which is
:07:58. > :08:00.called The Fall, to do with the incident in the 84 Olympics but much
:08:01. > :08:04.more than that actually because it reminds right back to your lives.
:08:05. > :08:08.Some beautiful footage of you both when you were incredibly young, and
:08:09. > :08:12.discovering the joys of running. Back in the day, how did running
:08:13. > :08:18.make you feel, Mary? Absolutely horrible. It was the most --
:08:19. > :08:21.absolutely whole. It was the most natural thing I could do, and I
:08:22. > :08:25.heard Zola saying she chose running because she could not do another
:08:26. > :08:33.sport, I'm there with you! None of the ball sports. Running was it. I
:08:34. > :08:37.found it completely by accident. I didn't know what organised running
:08:38. > :08:42.was until I was 11 years old when I started. It's funny watching the
:08:43. > :08:49.documentary, because your belly similar actually as young girls. --
:08:50. > :08:52.very similar foster both found running quite cathartic, especially
:08:53. > :08:59.for you, Zola, it was an escape for you? Yes, both me and Merhi, we both
:09:00. > :09:03.love running. It is quite interesting, because when we started
:09:04. > :09:08.talking, I told her I love running but I don't really like watching
:09:09. > :09:12.athletics. And she's the same! So you not looking forward to the
:09:13. > :09:18.Olympics coming up then? LAUGHTER Just kidding. We have some friends
:09:19. > :09:23.and people we know competing, but I am not a keen follower of athletics.
:09:24. > :09:26.There was that love of running but because of where you are from from
:09:27. > :09:30.South Africa, and apartheid, you are not allowed to compete on the world
:09:31. > :09:33.stage, and then this opportunity came for you as a young athlete to
:09:34. > :09:38.compete for Great Britain because of your grandfather. So what did it
:09:39. > :09:42.feel like to be given that opportunity to compete at the
:09:43. > :09:47.Olympics? At that time, I was still very young. I just felt this is my
:09:48. > :09:52.chance. I'm never going to have a chance to run for South Africa on
:09:53. > :09:56.the international stage. And that was 84, so it was five years before
:09:57. > :10:02.1989 and everything changed in the world. It was my opportunity to be
:10:03. > :10:07.able to run internationally. MNU came over to Britain and things
:10:08. > :10:10.changed then quite dramatically, didn't they? It says in the
:10:11. > :10:13.documentary you felt a bit like you are under house arrest, because all
:10:14. > :10:17.of the press of energy and suddenly the dreams that you had for the
:10:18. > :10:22.Olympics were not dashed, but you felt very differently, going into
:10:23. > :10:26.the race, didn't you? Definitely coming yes, the idea I had about
:10:27. > :10:33.running internationally and all the dreams I had, reality just to get
:10:34. > :10:38.close to it. My dreams didn't get close to what reality was. Mary, for
:10:39. > :10:45.you, Olympic gold was the dream, wasn't it? Boycotted Olympics you
:10:46. > :10:49.have missed out on, and then suddenly Los Angeles 84, and you
:10:50. > :10:53.were in your prime, ready to go. Did it feel like you are going to win
:10:54. > :11:00.that girl? It felt like that was the best chance I had of winning gold
:11:01. > :11:05.medal or any medal. Looking back on my career, 1984 would have been the
:11:06. > :11:09.year I would have won something. The race then started. If you both sort
:11:10. > :11:15.of talk us through what happened here. This is earlier in the race.
:11:16. > :11:18.Mary, here you are, you can see both of you there. Go wrong, Mary, just
:11:19. > :11:24.tell us what is happening at this point. Well, my coach had mentioned
:11:25. > :11:29.before the race that if somebody else wanted to take the pace for a
:11:30. > :11:32.couple of laps, to let them. That is typically not the way I would run, I
:11:33. > :11:38.typically ran from the front. That is what I was used to. But that
:11:39. > :11:44.comment was going through my mind, so I was thinking, OK, that's OK,
:11:45. > :11:47.you know, do that. And in hindsight, it was the wrong choice for me,
:11:48. > :11:54.because I wasn't used to running in a pack. And the infamous incident
:11:55. > :11:57.happened, and whatever happened, happened, and it just went so
:11:58. > :12:00.quickly I'm sure for the pair of you, you are unaware of what had
:12:01. > :12:08.gone on. It seemed like a total accident. Zola, what do you remember
:12:09. > :12:16.of that? I remember the race got really bumpy. I went to the front
:12:17. > :12:20.because I was running barefoot, and I was scared I was going to get
:12:21. > :12:24.spiked, which did happen, but I just felt a bump, and then the next lap I
:12:25. > :12:28.came round and I saw Mary lying on the infield, and that is my
:12:29. > :12:32.recollection of what happened. But you had a really good chance of
:12:33. > :12:37.winning that race, Zola, but then you seem to have slowed down. So
:12:38. > :12:43.what were you thinking? Were you slowing down on purpose? I think to
:12:44. > :12:47.be honest I knew beforehand I didn't really have a chance of winning the
:12:48. > :12:54.Gold Medal. I knew that Mary, just so much more stronger than I was. I
:12:55. > :13:01.don't have the explosive pace. For me, at least I knew I was aiming for
:13:02. > :13:04.a bronze. But after the crowd started brewing, I just decided I
:13:05. > :13:11.never want to go back into that stadium ever again. Over. Mary, 32
:13:12. > :13:17.years have gone by, you have made this documentary now, how cathartic
:13:18. > :13:21.as it been for you, or not? No, it has been cathartic. It has been
:13:22. > :13:27.interesting, because I have seen aspects of the 84 Olympics and the
:13:28. > :13:30.3000 in particular. I had never ever watched the race until this past, I
:13:31. > :13:37.guess it was March, when we were filming. You know, it was
:13:38. > :13:43.interesting to actually watch the race, and watch the other athletes,
:13:44. > :13:48.Wendy Sly and Lynne Williams, because I honestly did not know, I
:13:49. > :13:55.mean I knew who the medallists were, but I didn't know how the race went.
:13:56. > :14:01.So it was interesting, and to an odd extent it was enjoyable to actually
:14:02. > :14:04.watch the race. Really? It is an extraordinary watch, I know that
:14:05. > :14:10.word is often used but it really is worth watching. You can see The Fall
:14:11. > :14:15.on sky Atlantic this Friday at 9pm and also at selected cinemas
:14:16. > :14:18.nationwide from the same date. Plus, carrying on the same Olympic theme
:14:19. > :14:23.with Gabby Logan later, she will be joining us on the sofa. Looking
:14:24. > :14:28.forward to that. Look down now and you are probably wearing a pair. No,
:14:29. > :14:34.because we have got the heels on. On the track, Mary wore someone's with
:14:35. > :14:38.spikes in and Zola didn't really bother at all. This is how one
:14:39. > :14:44.inventor from Bolton helped soothe the sales of one inventor -- runners
:14:45. > :14:49.all over the world. Loved by elite athletes and fashion icons alike.
:14:50. > :14:54.One by billions of people across every continent, the trainer. They
:14:55. > :15:04.were not designed in LA or New York, but right here, in Bolton. In 1898,
:15:05. > :15:08.a local cobbler, Joe Foster, had a bright idea that would change the
:15:09. > :15:14.face of footwear. Abby Foster is his great, great granddaughter.
:15:15. > :15:22.He loved running, so he decided to have the best running shoe. He
:15:23. > :15:28.created the first spike shoe. Did they make a difference? They did
:15:29. > :15:33.indeed. They had more power. They would grip the floor. It was new
:15:34. > :15:38.technology. So he took that technology and mass produced it into
:15:39. > :15:44.the foster's running pump, the first of its kind. In 1924, Britain's
:15:45. > :15:47.Olympic athletic stars, Harold Abrahams and Eric Liddell, war
:15:48. > :15:52.foster's running shoes and won two gold medals, a silver and bronze.
:15:53. > :16:01.They were later immortalised in the classic film chariots of fire. It
:16:02. > :16:06.really put Foster on the map. It was the first shoe factory to create
:16:07. > :16:11.running shoes. Because of their strong reputation, Foster's were
:16:12. > :16:18.commissioned to create footwear for the British at 16. Ten years later,
:16:19. > :16:21.a family dispute caused a rival brand to emerge, one that was to
:16:22. > :16:28.become one of the most famous brands on the planet. My great great uncle
:16:29. > :16:32.Billy wanted to carry on with the traditional running shoes, where my
:16:33. > :16:36.grandfather and his brother Jeff wanted to use more innovative
:16:37. > :16:42.technologies. So in 1958, they left the company and set up on their own.
:16:43. > :16:45.And that brand needed a new name. It came from the South African
:16:46. > :16:52.dictionary, and the name of the company is Reebok. Wow, what does it
:16:53. > :16:57.mean? It is an Afrikaans term for a swift footed gazelle. Reebok are now
:16:58. > :17:01.one of the most recognisable brands in the world, with international
:17:02. > :17:09.sales in excess of ?1.4 billion last year. But the town of Bolton wasn't
:17:10. > :17:11.done with the trainer yet. In 1961, the star designer of Foster's Norman
:17:12. > :17:17.Walsh decided to set up his own footwear business. There must be
:17:18. > :17:21.something in the air around here. Norman started off in a room in his
:17:22. > :17:26.mum and dad's terraced house, and he did really well. 55 years later,
:17:27. > :17:33.Norman's business is still going strong. John Compton now runs
:17:34. > :17:38.Norman's trainers. You're going to completely make your own pair of
:17:39. > :17:48.trainers for yourself. Hopefully, at the end of the day, you can take
:17:49. > :17:53.them away. Oh, wow! Norman was an innovator in his time. In the early
:17:54. > :17:59.60s, when he first set up, he was the first one to start using nylon
:18:00. > :18:03.for the light weight. They look retro, but still seem contemporary.
:18:04. > :18:07.You had an knife or colours. So he could put together a combination to
:18:08. > :18:14.make his shoes stand out and make them different from other
:18:15. > :18:21.manufacturers. He had a small shop. You could go up on a Saturday, and
:18:22. > :18:25.one of the big British wrestlers would be there, buying a pair of
:18:26. > :18:30.wrestling boots. Joe Public got them at one price, but the sports people,
:18:31. > :18:39.he always stuck an extra fiver on. I like that! So, these are the
:18:40. > :18:45.trainers you have made. Well done. Amazing, my own peace of Bolton.
:18:46. > :18:51.You're welcome. Well, we have now got the finished
:18:52. > :18:57.article. Visual gag coming up. Here we are! What do you think of those?
:18:58. > :19:05.Zola, obviously you prefer to run barefoot. But what do you think of
:19:06. > :19:11.those? They are nice. From an aesthetic point of view. They seemed
:19:12. > :19:20.underwhelmed! They look a little retro. I try and run as much as
:19:21. > :19:25.possible. Just for a sense of freedom? I just love running
:19:26. > :19:35.barefoot on the grass. When I run by a foot, I don't get injuries. These
:19:36. > :19:39.are a size six, perfect. We are joined by Gabby Logan, who is
:19:40. > :19:44.heading to Rio as part of the BBC's Olympics presenting team. There is
:19:45. > :19:48.always negativity before the Olympics, will be pull it out of the
:19:49. > :19:56.bag, the buildings are not ready, there is always a bit of that, even
:19:57. > :20:00.in London. Absolutely. Are they going to do it? Of course, and it
:20:01. > :20:05.will have its own personality and we will all get hooked and be glued to
:20:06. > :20:11.it, even though the timings don't necessarily help with 24 hour
:20:12. > :20:16.round-the-clock viewing. My son has already warned me, I am not sleeping
:20:17. > :20:22.while you are away. But for you guys, there was the 1980 Olympics
:20:23. > :20:25.and a boycott, so it is not new to have problems heading into an
:20:26. > :20:29.Olympic Games. On that note of boycotting countries not being
:20:30. > :20:33.there, let's talk about the Russian doping scandal. Over the weekend,
:20:34. > :20:38.there was a lot of discussion over whether there would be a blanket
:20:39. > :20:42.ban, but now there is not a bagged band and a lot of sporting stars
:20:43. > :20:46.have come out with their pin in about that. They are not happy,
:20:47. > :20:52.because they feel the IOC has passed the buck on this. The IAAF, the
:20:53. > :20:55.athletics Federation, said, we are banning Russian athletes from the
:20:56. > :20:59.Olympic Games because of the systematic doping that was taking
:21:00. > :21:03.place. Then the president was that. Over to you, the IOC. And they came
:21:04. > :21:07.out on Sunday and said no, we will not have a blanket ban, we will
:21:08. > :21:11.leave it to the individual federations. That puts a lot of
:21:12. > :21:15.pressure on those federations. It is such a short period of time as well,
:21:16. > :21:23.and a lot of athletes feel they have passed the buck. Chris Hoy was one
:21:24. > :21:29.of them. Where do you stand on this, Zola and Mary? Should there be a
:21:30. > :21:34.blanket ban? I don't think I know enough about exactly what is going
:21:35. > :21:42.on. But I feel it should be on an individual basis, because I feel
:21:43. > :21:51.that to ban the whole team is unfair. You can't assume that
:21:52. > :21:54.because there was doping, every Russian athletes did it. People feel
:21:55. > :21:59.aggrieved about what has emerged from Sochi. They are in charge of
:22:00. > :22:02.the drug testing at their own Olympics, and they were cutting
:22:03. > :22:06.holes in the wall to swap clean samples for negative samples. There
:22:07. > :22:11.was a systematic approach to drug doping, which is not something that
:22:12. > :22:20.is about a rogue individual. But it is not new either. It has been going
:22:21. > :22:23.on in the 70s and 80s. I think we would agree that the testers need
:22:24. > :22:29.more money. Wilder, the testing body, needs to be funded better. The
:22:30. > :22:33.IOC will damage its brand if it doesn't protect itself. How do you
:22:34. > :22:37.stop this from going on? That has been a question for as long as I
:22:38. > :22:43.have been running, and that is a long time. It is a tough one, but I
:22:44. > :22:46.am with Zola. I don't feel there should be a blanket ban, especially
:22:47. > :22:50.in a sport that is so individual. Maybe a team sport, whether it is a
:22:51. > :22:59.volleyball team or a basketball team. Running is such an individual
:23:00. > :23:05.sport. My opinion is that you can be offered drugs, but you don't have to
:23:06. > :23:10.take them. It is about when you're funding is dependent on your
:23:11. > :23:15.application to the squad. That is where it gets quite messy. Which
:23:16. > :23:25.they are you most looking forward to, Gabby? The first Saturday of the
:23:26. > :23:29.athletics, for us. We are getting a bit nationalistic hate. The USA will
:23:30. > :23:33.win medals every day, but we had that fantastic Saturday where we saw
:23:34. > :23:36.Mo Farah Jessica Ennis as she was then and Greg Rutherford all winning
:23:37. > :23:43.gold medals, and they compete again on the same first Saturday in those
:23:44. > :23:50.events. So we could see ourselves do it again. To be honest, the US have
:23:51. > :23:55.a fantastic women's gymnastics team, but as far as Great Britain are
:23:56. > :23:59.concerned, we are in with a good chance of some medals. Most final
:24:00. > :24:09.days, we will see British action in there. That has come around really
:24:10. > :24:12.quickly. I am so excited. The men's bronze in London was one of my
:24:13. > :24:22.favourite medals in the Olympic Games. We may even have our first
:24:23. > :24:29.Olympic champion as well. On the pommel horse. You have to set your
:24:30. > :24:39.alarm for the middle of the night, but for gymnastics, we are in One
:24:40. > :24:45.Show time! Thank you, Gabby. The BBC's coverage of the Olympic Games
:24:46. > :24:48.begins on Friday the 5th of August from 11:35 p.m.. Now, what prompts
:24:49. > :24:53.someone to walk away from the religious beliefs they were born
:24:54. > :24:56.into? To find out, Amber Haque match two women who have struggled with
:24:57. > :25:01.their faiths and make that difficult choice.
:25:02. > :25:07.Aliyah and Christal were brought up to believe in God. And they are, as
:25:08. > :25:10.a Muslim. I was so intensely religious that I would have said it
:25:11. > :25:18.was OK to star in a person for adultery. Christal, as a Christian.
:25:19. > :25:22.It was individual to me, developing a relationship with God. Growing up,
:25:23. > :25:26.Aliyah and Christal came to believe that their faiths were not right for
:25:27. > :25:31.them. But both women felt strongly enough to do something about it.
:25:32. > :25:37.They walked away. At 18, Aliyah removed failed that she had worn for
:25:38. > :25:42.almost a decade. I looked in the mirror and realised, this is the
:25:43. > :25:48.person I am. Christal converted to Islam while in law student at
:25:49. > :25:54.university. To put on a scarf, you are saying, I am a Muslim now. I
:25:55. > :25:58.have never taken it off. At the age of 11, Aliyah started to wear the
:25:59. > :26:01.hijab when her family sent her to an Islamic boarding school in the
:26:02. > :26:07.Midlands. She found a school's rules hard to live with. He wanted to
:26:08. > :26:11.listen to music in your own bedroom, you were breaking a rule. If you
:26:12. > :26:14.want to wear lip gloss, you were freaking overall. She was eventually
:26:15. > :26:19.expelled and that the age of 16 were sent to Pakistan to study the Koran.
:26:20. > :26:29.The study was really intensive. I pushed back against it for so long.
:26:30. > :26:34.And now devout, and a return to the UK to study for her A-levels at her
:26:35. > :26:42.local sixth form college. I started to identify with it, but realised I
:26:43. > :26:46.had been made to wear the headscarf against my wishes. The more I read
:26:47. > :26:51.different criticisms, I moved into atheism. Christal also grew up in
:26:52. > :26:55.the Midlands, in Birmingham, where she was raised a Christian by her
:26:56. > :26:58.Jamaican father and British mother. Every Sunday, we would all get
:26:59. > :27:03.dressed and go to church and Sunday school. What made you want to make
:27:04. > :27:08.the switch to Islam? When I was doing my first degree. I had never
:27:09. > :27:12.been in such a multicultural setting, and I met a lot of Muslims.
:27:13. > :27:17.I was fascinated, so I started doing research. As I read more about
:27:18. > :27:21.Islam, I identified more with this than the religion I was following.
:27:22. > :27:24.By the time she had completed her Masters in law, Christal had
:27:25. > :27:28.converted to Islam. Deciding to give up the faith you were raised in is
:27:29. > :27:34.one thing. Telling your family of your decision is another. There was
:27:35. > :27:37.this reaction of, oh my God, does that mean you are going to have a
:27:38. > :27:42.boyfriend and start drinking? So what is the relationship like now
:27:43. > :27:48.with your parents? We are in a good place. Some of Christal's family
:27:49. > :27:51.were also concerned by her decision, as her sister Sharon explains. I
:27:52. > :27:55.wasn't happy to begin with other because we were brought up very
:27:56. > :28:03.Christian. I started to realise that it wasn't as big a deal as I felt it
:28:04. > :28:13.was. I used to have to explain it to people. They would be like, who is
:28:14. > :28:17.that Muslim girl? People stare, and I think, what are they looking at?
:28:18. > :28:21.It's just Christal. After leaving the faith they were brought up in,
:28:22. > :28:25.neither woman has found life straightforward. You feel like
:28:26. > :28:28.you're not allowed to be part of the community and in more, especially
:28:29. > :28:33.because I'm Pakistani. To say that you are atheist is still quite
:28:34. > :28:37.unacceptable. When I came to Islam, I did get a lot of funny looks and
:28:38. > :28:42.people staring at me. But then I realised they probably just don't
:28:43. > :28:46.see a lot of black people. Despite the challenges, Aliyah and Christal
:28:47. > :28:51.both feel they have made the right choice. I don't feel like I have to
:28:52. > :28:57.answer to those patriarchal rules any more. That gives me a lot of
:28:58. > :29:02.freedom. Any regrets? None at all. If anything, I wish I had come to
:29:03. > :29:08.Islam sooner, because I probably would have found peace in my life a
:29:09. > :29:11.lot quicker than I did. No regrets either side. Thank you to
:29:12. > :29:17.Aliyah and Christal for sharing their stories. We are almost up, but
:29:18. > :29:20.we just have time to tell about your new thing, Mary, the ElliptiGO. This
:29:21. > :29:25.looks fantastic. We heard about Zola doing some running, but you can't
:29:26. > :29:32.because of arthritis. Explain this, how far do you go on these? Well,
:29:33. > :29:43.this particular event is only a 12 mile race. But it is completely
:29:44. > :29:50.uphill. On that? The thing for me is that it saved my sanity. I could not
:29:51. > :29:54.run. I could shuffle, jog, which didn't give me the same feeling is
:29:55. > :30:01.running. And on the ElliptiGO, I can go as fast and hard as I want. Last
:30:02. > :30:11.year, I did 129 miles and 18,000 feet of climbing. It took over ten
:30:12. > :30:17.hours. I got to dig down. It has been wonderful to talk to you both
:30:18. > :30:21.tonight. Thank you for your company. You can see The Fall on Sky Atlantic
:30:22. > :30:25.this Friday at nine o'clock and also at selected cinemas nationwide on
:30:26. > :30:29.the same date. We will be back tomorrow at seven and we still have
:30:30. > :30:32.it a World Cup winner of 1956 with Jeremy Vine, and we all said have
:30:33. > :30:42.Isla Fisher and music from Reeth. Good night.
:30:43. > :30:48.We know that Verloc planted the bomb. You employ him.
:30:49. > :30:52.We ought to start thinking about what we're going to do.