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:00:19. > :00:25.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

:00:26. > :00:31.With the Rio Olympic Games only ten days away, we are about to take you

:00:32. > :00:37.back 32 years to relive one of and talked about moment in Olympic

:00:38. > :00:42.history. Let's set the scene, it is the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los

:00:43. > :00:48.Angeles and everyone is focused on the 3000 metres final. Yes, it was

:00:49. > :00:53.the race everyone was waiting for. The word record-breaking American

:00:54. > :00:57.against the world record-breaking barefoot South African, representing

:00:58. > :01:00.Great Britain. The stakes could not have been higher, the world was

:01:01. > :01:09.watching and then this happened. COMMENTATOR: Barefooted, she is

:01:10. > :01:12.happier barefooted, Dekhar is down. The world champion and now one of

:01:13. > :01:18.the favourites is flat out on the infield. Mary Decker-Slaney out on

:01:19. > :01:25.the race. I think her foot caught me and to avoid pushing her, I fell. I

:01:26. > :01:30.don't think there was any question that she was in the wrong. Together

:01:31. > :01:35.for the first time on live television since that very famous

:01:36. > :01:43.incident, it is Mary Decker-Slaney and Zola Budd. CHEERING

:01:44. > :01:46.Welcome to you both. Goodness, it was fascinating just watching both

:01:47. > :01:52.of your faces when that clip came on. Still obviously very emotional

:01:53. > :01:58.for both of you. We are going to talk about that at length a bit

:01:59. > :02:02.later in the show. We are. It struck me, having seen that clip, watched

:02:03. > :02:05.the documentary and invited you today, we put you in the same

:02:06. > :02:09.dressing room and Amad Butt, hang on a minute, is anything right? But you

:02:10. > :02:12.have been travelling the world together and we're very much made

:02:13. > :02:17.up. I do think there is anything to make up about. I don't think there

:02:18. > :02:23.was anything between as anyway, it was all the media. We were never on

:02:24. > :02:28.a bad footing after the fall. It was all media hype. It is all documented

:02:29. > :02:32.in this documentary called The Fall, which sort of said what happened in

:02:33. > :02:36.the lead up to the Olympics, what happened during the final and the

:02:37. > :02:40.aftermath. Hopefully we can share that with our viewers a bit later.

:02:41. > :02:44.Thank you for joining us. If you are about to get married, you might find

:02:45. > :02:49.this next film a bit difficult to watch. Imagine the agony, OK? You

:02:50. > :02:52.have been looking forward to a dream wedding and then suddenly it is

:02:53. > :02:56.snatched away from you right at the last minute. That is the nightmare

:02:57. > :03:03.scenario that came true for a host of unlikely scenarios. Joe Crowley

:03:04. > :03:09.with what was the best man to tell us more. Welcome to The One Show

:03:10. > :03:18.wedding of the year. Not mine, there is. Gail oh, and Iain are tying the

:03:19. > :03:25.knot. But the happy couple did not almost make it down to the aisle,

:03:26. > :03:31.thanks to a rogue wedding planner. This woman Michelle McMorris, she

:03:32. > :03:36.ran happy talk events in Glasgow, which hired out everything from

:03:37. > :03:44.dance floors to ornate centrepieces. Gail spent ?1200 here. I just wanted

:03:45. > :03:50.the finishing touches to our day. I had always wanted my sparkly dance

:03:51. > :03:56.floor, my candelabras, I thought why not? Just weeks before the big day,

:03:57. > :04:00.her wedding planner shut up shop without warning. My stomach was

:04:01. > :04:06.churning, and I became really upset, because it was a sudden realisation

:04:07. > :04:11.that I had lost all the items I had booked, but not only that, I have

:04:12. > :04:15.lost so much money as well. And Gail was not the only bride left in the

:04:16. > :04:18.lurch was not pulling McEwen and Graham Strachan had handed over

:04:19. > :04:23.several hundred pounds to happy talk to add sparkle to their big day.

:04:24. > :04:28.After it closed down, they found Michelle McMorris less than happy to

:04:29. > :04:32.talk. We were e-mailing, the e-mails were coming back to save e-mail

:04:33. > :04:36.account had been closed, website no longer existed, even phoning was

:04:37. > :04:41.going straight answer phone. It was gut-wrenching. I don't lie. There

:04:42. > :04:46.were a lot of tears. It makes me more angry that summary had actually

:04:47. > :04:49.planned this. It is the lowest of the loan. Michelle McMorris

:04:50. > :04:56.disappeared, leaving 200 brides out of pocket. Many had no insurance or

:04:57. > :05:03.credit card protection in place, so have lost the lot. My daughter Kelly

:05:04. > :05:09.paid 2300 in total. 2300? Oh my goodness. Weeden she did it as a

:05:10. > :05:15.bank transfer, no comeback, so she has lost it, that's it. That is it

:05:16. > :05:20.standing here? That is my centrepiece in the window.

:05:21. > :05:25.Everything is in the back as well. How angry were you when she found

:05:26. > :05:29.out you had done a runner? -- when she found -- when you find that she

:05:30. > :05:35.had done a runner? To run away with it all is just horrendous,

:05:36. > :05:38.horrendous. Lin Glasgow worked at Happy Que talk events during its

:05:39. > :05:42.final six months and is now having to save some of the wedding is left

:05:43. > :05:49.hanging in the balance free from charge. Most weekends we had about

:05:50. > :05:54.20 weddings to go, and in the summer profit rise that was about ?40,000

:05:55. > :05:59.per month. So it seems the firm wasn't a casualty of austerity.

:06:00. > :06:03.Whatever the reasons, anxious brides to be like Gail now face paying out

:06:04. > :06:09.all over again if their big day is to go ahead. After all the problems,

:06:10. > :06:12.how has it turned out? Absolutely fantastic. I could not have asked

:06:13. > :06:18.for a better day. What do you think Michelle right now? She is probably

:06:19. > :06:21.refers -- the furthest person from it right now because I'm having such

:06:22. > :06:26.a great time with family and friends. I just hope she gets the

:06:27. > :06:31.punishment she deserves. So where is R planner who has run away hiding?

:06:32. > :06:36.She is not at her shop and she has moved out of her rented house. And

:06:37. > :06:43.new Happy Talk companies have already been registered, but not in

:06:44. > :06:45.Scotland. It seems Michelle McMorris and her family have upped sticks and

:06:46. > :06:51.moved the other side of the Atlantic. We've tried to contact her

:06:52. > :06:54.in Florida, but our e-mails, letters and phone calls have gone

:06:55. > :06:58.unanswered. Back here in Scotland, we think there is one very special

:06:59. > :07:02.wedding message she needs to hear. Sorry, Michelle, but this is one

:07:03. > :07:07.wedding you didn't manage to real income isn't that right? CHEERING

:07:08. > :07:10.And if Michelle McMorris sets foot back in Scotland, she will find

:07:11. > :07:14.trading standards ready and waiting to talk to her. For these guys, only

:07:15. > :07:21.one thing left to do, party! CHEERING

:07:22. > :07:25.Big congratulations to Gail and Iain, so glad their day was ruined

:07:26. > :07:29.in the enemy had their magic moment. Absolutely. Mary, we have to comment

:07:30. > :07:35.here that you married a Brit and he is with us in the studio. It is none

:07:36. > :07:42.other than Richard Slaney, you may recognise from Britain's strongest

:07:43. > :07:53.man, 1992. There you are in order to glory. He could lift up the entire

:07:54. > :07:57.audience! Let's talk more about this incredible documentary, which is

:07:58. > :08:00.called The Fall, to do with the incident in the 84 Olympics but much

:08:01. > :08:04.more than that actually because it reminds right back to your lives.

:08:05. > :08:08.Some beautiful footage of you both when you were incredibly young, and

:08:09. > :08:12.discovering the joys of running. Back in the day, how did running

:08:13. > :08:18.make you feel, Mary? Absolutely horrible. It was the most --

:08:19. > :08:21.absolutely whole. It was the most natural thing I could do, and I

:08:22. > :08:25.heard Zola saying she chose running because she could not do another

:08:26. > :08:33.sport, I'm there with you! None of the ball sports. Running was it. I

:08:34. > :08:37.found it completely by accident. I didn't know what organised running

:08:38. > :08:42.was until I was 11 years old when I started. It's funny watching the

:08:43. > :08:49.documentary, because your belly similar actually as young girls. --

:08:50. > :08:52.very similar foster both found running quite cathartic, especially

:08:53. > :08:59.for you, Zola, it was an escape for you? Yes, both me and Merhi, we both

:09:00. > :09:03.love running. It is quite interesting, because when we started

:09:04. > :09:08.talking, I told her I love running but I don't really like watching

:09:09. > :09:12.athletics. And she's the same! So you not looking forward to the

:09:13. > :09:18.Olympics coming up then? LAUGHTER Just kidding. We have some friends

:09:19. > :09:23.and people we know competing, but I am not a keen follower of athletics.

:09:24. > :09:26.There was that love of running but because of where you are from from

:09:27. > :09:30.South Africa, and apartheid, you are not allowed to compete on the world

:09:31. > :09:33.stage, and then this opportunity came for you as a young athlete to

:09:34. > :09:38.compete for Great Britain because of your grandfather. So what did it

:09:39. > :09:42.feel like to be given that opportunity to compete at the

:09:43. > :09:47.Olympics? At that time, I was still very young. I just felt this is my

:09:48. > :09:52.chance. I'm never going to have a chance to run for South Africa on

:09:53. > :09:56.the international stage. And that was 84, so it was five years before

:09:57. > :10:02.1989 and everything changed in the world. It was my opportunity to be

:10:03. > :10:07.able to run internationally. MNU came over to Britain and things

:10:08. > :10:10.changed then quite dramatically, didn't they? It says in the

:10:11. > :10:13.documentary you felt a bit like you are under house arrest, because all

:10:14. > :10:17.of the press of energy and suddenly the dreams that you had for the

:10:18. > :10:22.Olympics were not dashed, but you felt very differently, going into

:10:23. > :10:26.the race, didn't you? Definitely coming yes, the idea I had about

:10:27. > :10:33.running internationally and all the dreams I had, reality just to get

:10:34. > :10:38.close to it. My dreams didn't get close to what reality was. Mary, for

:10:39. > :10:45.you, Olympic gold was the dream, wasn't it? Boycotted Olympics you

:10:46. > :10:49.have missed out on, and then suddenly Los Angeles 84, and you

:10:50. > :10:53.were in your prime, ready to go. Did it feel like you are going to win

:10:54. > :11:00.that girl? It felt like that was the best chance I had of winning gold

:11:01. > :11:05.medal or any medal. Looking back on my career, 1984 would have been the

:11:06. > :11:09.year I would have won something. The race then started. If you both sort

:11:10. > :11:15.of talk us through what happened here. This is earlier in the race.

:11:16. > :11:18.Mary, here you are, you can see both of you there. Go wrong, Mary, just

:11:19. > :11:24.tell us what is happening at this point. Well, my coach had mentioned

:11:25. > :11:29.before the race that if somebody else wanted to take the pace for a

:11:30. > :11:32.couple of laps, to let them. That is typically not the way I would run, I

:11:33. > :11:38.typically ran from the front. That is what I was used to. But that

:11:39. > :11:44.comment was going through my mind, so I was thinking, OK, that's OK,

:11:45. > :11:47.you know, do that. And in hindsight, it was the wrong choice for me,

:11:48. > :11:54.because I wasn't used to running in a pack. And the infamous incident

:11:55. > :11:57.happened, and whatever happened, happened, and it just went so

:11:58. > :12:00.quickly I'm sure for the pair of you, you are unaware of what had

:12:01. > :12:08.gone on. It seemed like a total accident. Zola, what do you remember

:12:09. > :12:16.of that? I remember the race got really bumpy. I went to the front

:12:17. > :12:20.because I was running barefoot, and I was scared I was going to get

:12:21. > :12:24.spiked, which did happen, but I just felt a bump, and then the next lap I

:12:25. > :12:28.came round and I saw Mary lying on the infield, and that is my

:12:29. > :12:32.recollection of what happened. But you had a really good chance of

:12:33. > :12:37.winning that race, Zola, but then you seem to have slowed down. So

:12:38. > :12:43.what were you thinking? Were you slowing down on purpose? I think to

:12:44. > :12:47.be honest I knew beforehand I didn't really have a chance of winning the

:12:48. > :12:54.Gold Medal. I knew that Mary, just so much more stronger than I was. I

:12:55. > :13:01.don't have the explosive pace. For me, at least I knew I was aiming for

:13:02. > :13:04.a bronze. But after the crowd started brewing, I just decided I

:13:05. > :13:11.never want to go back into that stadium ever again. Over. Mary, 32

:13:12. > :13:17.years have gone by, you have made this documentary now, how cathartic

:13:18. > :13:21.as it been for you, or not? No, it has been cathartic. It has been

:13:22. > :13:27.interesting, because I have seen aspects of the 84 Olympics and the

:13:28. > :13:30.3000 in particular. I had never ever watched the race until this past, I

:13:31. > :13:37.guess it was March, when we were filming. You know, it was

:13:38. > :13:43.interesting to actually watch the race, and watch the other athletes,

:13:44. > :13:48.Wendy Sly and Lynne Williams, because I honestly did not know, I

:13:49. > :13:55.mean I knew who the medallists were, but I didn't know how the race went.

:13:56. > :14:01.So it was interesting, and to an odd extent it was enjoyable to actually

:14:02. > :14:04.watch the race. Really? It is an extraordinary watch, I know that

:14:05. > :14:10.word is often used but it really is worth watching. You can see The Fall

:14:11. > :14:15.on sky Atlantic this Friday at 9pm and also at selected cinemas

:14:16. > :14:18.nationwide from the same date. Plus, carrying on the same Olympic theme

:14:19. > :14:23.with Gabby Logan later, she will be joining us on the sofa. Looking

:14:24. > :14:28.forward to that. Look down now and you are probably wearing a pair. No,

:14:29. > :14:34.because we have got the heels on. On the track, Mary wore someone's with

:14:35. > :14:38.spikes in and Zola didn't really bother at all. This is how one

:14:39. > :14:44.inventor from Bolton helped soothe the sales of one inventor -- runners

:14:45. > :14:49.all over the world. Loved by elite athletes and fashion icons alike.

:14:50. > :14:54.One by billions of people across every continent, the trainer. They

:14:55. > :15:04.were not designed in LA or New York, but right here, in Bolton. In 1898,

:15:05. > :15:08.a local cobbler, Joe Foster, had a bright idea that would change the

:15:09. > :15:14.face of footwear. Abby Foster is his great, great granddaughter.

:15:15. > :15:22.He loved running, so he decided to have the best running shoe. He

:15:23. > :15:28.created the first spike shoe. Did they make a difference? They did

:15:29. > :15:33.indeed. They had more power. They would grip the floor. It was new

:15:34. > :15:38.technology. So he took that technology and mass produced it into

:15:39. > :15:44.the foster's running pump, the first of its kind. In 1924, Britain's

:15:45. > :15:47.Olympic athletic stars, Harold Abrahams and Eric Liddell, war

:15:48. > :15:52.foster's running shoes and won two gold medals, a silver and bronze.

:15:53. > :16:01.They were later immortalised in the classic film chariots of fire. It

:16:02. > :16:06.really put Foster on the map. It was the first shoe factory to create

:16:07. > :16:11.running shoes. Because of their strong reputation, Foster's were

:16:12. > :16:18.commissioned to create footwear for the British at 16. Ten years later,

:16:19. > :16:21.a family dispute caused a rival brand to emerge, one that was to

:16:22. > :16:28.become one of the most famous brands on the planet. My great great uncle

:16:29. > :16:32.Billy wanted to carry on with the traditional running shoes, where my

:16:33. > :16:36.grandfather and his brother Jeff wanted to use more innovative

:16:37. > :16:42.technologies. So in 1958, they left the company and set up on their own.

:16:43. > :16:45.And that brand needed a new name. It came from the South African

:16:46. > :16:52.dictionary, and the name of the company is Reebok. Wow, what does it

:16:53. > :16:57.mean? It is an Afrikaans term for a swift footed gazelle. Reebok are now

:16:58. > :17:01.one of the most recognisable brands in the world, with international

:17:02. > :17:09.sales in excess of ?1.4 billion last year. But the town of Bolton wasn't

:17:10. > :17:11.done with the trainer yet. In 1961, the star designer of Foster's Norman

:17:12. > :17:17.Walsh decided to set up his own footwear business. There must be

:17:18. > :17:21.something in the air around here. Norman started off in a room in his

:17:22. > :17:26.mum and dad's terraced house, and he did really well. 55 years later,

:17:27. > :17:33.Norman's business is still going strong. John Compton now runs

:17:34. > :17:38.Norman's trainers. You're going to completely make your own pair of

:17:39. > :17:48.trainers for yourself. Hopefully, at the end of the day, you can take

:17:49. > :17:53.them away. Oh, wow! Norman was an innovator in his time. In the early

:17:54. > :17:59.60s, when he first set up, he was the first one to start using nylon

:18:00. > :18:03.for the light weight. They look retro, but still seem contemporary.

:18:04. > :18:07.You had an knife or colours. So he could put together a combination to

:18:08. > :18:14.make his shoes stand out and make them different from other

:18:15. > :18:21.manufacturers. He had a small shop. You could go up on a Saturday, and

:18:22. > :18:25.one of the big British wrestlers would be there, buying a pair of

:18:26. > :18:30.wrestling boots. Joe Public got them at one price, but the sports people,

:18:31. > :18:39.he always stuck an extra fiver on. I like that! So, these are the

:18:40. > :18:45.trainers you have made. Well done. Amazing, my own peace of Bolton.

:18:46. > :18:51.You're welcome. Well, we have now got the finished

:18:52. > :18:57.article. Visual gag coming up. Here we are! What do you think of those?

:18:58. > :19:05.Zola, obviously you prefer to run barefoot. But what do you think of

:19:06. > :19:11.those? They are nice. From an aesthetic point of view. They seemed

:19:12. > :19:20.underwhelmed! They look a little retro. I try and run as much as

:19:21. > :19:25.possible. Just for a sense of freedom? I just love running

:19:26. > :19:35.barefoot on the grass. When I run by a foot, I don't get injuries. These

:19:36. > :19:39.are a size six, perfect. We are joined by Gabby Logan, who is

:19:40. > :19:44.heading to Rio as part of the BBC's Olympics presenting team. There is

:19:45. > :19:48.always negativity before the Olympics, will be pull it out of the

:19:49. > :19:56.bag, the buildings are not ready, there is always a bit of that, even

:19:57. > :20:00.in London. Absolutely. Are they going to do it? Of course, and it

:20:01. > :20:05.will have its own personality and we will all get hooked and be glued to

:20:06. > :20:11.it, even though the timings don't necessarily help with 24 hour

:20:12. > :20:16.round-the-clock viewing. My son has already warned me, I am not sleeping

:20:17. > :20:22.while you are away. But for you guys, there was the 1980 Olympics

:20:23. > :20:25.and a boycott, so it is not new to have problems heading into an

:20:26. > :20:29.Olympic Games. On that note of boycotting countries not being

:20:30. > :20:33.there, let's talk about the Russian doping scandal. Over the weekend,

:20:34. > :20:38.there was a lot of discussion over whether there would be a blanket

:20:39. > :20:42.ban, but now there is not a bagged band and a lot of sporting stars

:20:43. > :20:46.have come out with their pin in about that. They are not happy,

:20:47. > :20:52.because they feel the IOC has passed the buck on this. The IAAF, the

:20:53. > :20:55.athletics Federation, said, we are banning Russian athletes from the

:20:56. > :20:59.Olympic Games because of the systematic doping that was taking

:21:00. > :21:03.place. Then the president was that. Over to you, the IOC. And they came

:21:04. > :21:07.out on Sunday and said no, we will not have a blanket ban, we will

:21:08. > :21:11.leave it to the individual federations. That puts a lot of

:21:12. > :21:15.pressure on those federations. It is such a short period of time as well,

:21:16. > :21:23.and a lot of athletes feel they have passed the buck. Chris Hoy was one

:21:24. > :21:29.of them. Where do you stand on this, Zola and Mary? Should there be a

:21:30. > :21:34.blanket ban? I don't think I know enough about exactly what is going

:21:35. > :21:42.on. But I feel it should be on an individual basis, because I feel

:21:43. > :21:51.that to ban the whole team is unfair. You can't assume that

:21:52. > :21:54.because there was doping, every Russian athletes did it. People feel

:21:55. > :21:59.aggrieved about what has emerged from Sochi. They are in charge of

:22:00. > :22:02.the drug testing at their own Olympics, and they were cutting

:22:03. > :22:06.holes in the wall to swap clean samples for negative samples. There

:22:07. > :22:11.was a systematic approach to drug doping, which is not something that

:22:12. > :22:20.is about a rogue individual. But it is not new either. It has been going

:22:21. > :22:23.on in the 70s and 80s. I think we would agree that the testers need

:22:24. > :22:29.more money. Wilder, the testing body, needs to be funded better. The

:22:30. > :22:33.IOC will damage its brand if it doesn't protect itself. How do you

:22:34. > :22:37.stop this from going on? That has been a question for as long as I

:22:38. > :22:43.have been running, and that is a long time. It is a tough one, but I

:22:44. > :22:46.am with Zola. I don't feel there should be a blanket ban, especially

:22:47. > :22:50.in a sport that is so individual. Maybe a team sport, whether it is a

:22:51. > :22:59.volleyball team or a basketball team. Running is such an individual

:23:00. > :23:05.sport. My opinion is that you can be offered drugs, but you don't have to

:23:06. > :23:10.take them. It is about when you're funding is dependent on your

:23:11. > :23:15.application to the squad. That is where it gets quite messy. Which

:23:16. > :23:25.they are you most looking forward to, Gabby? The first Saturday of the

:23:26. > :23:29.athletics, for us. We are getting a bit nationalistic hate. The USA will

:23:30. > :23:33.win medals every day, but we had that fantastic Saturday where we saw

:23:34. > :23:36.Mo Farah Jessica Ennis as she was then and Greg Rutherford all winning

:23:37. > :23:43.gold medals, and they compete again on the same first Saturday in those

:23:44. > :23:50.events. So we could see ourselves do it again. To be honest, the US have

:23:51. > :23:55.a fantastic women's gymnastics team, but as far as Great Britain are

:23:56. > :23:59.concerned, we are in with a good chance of some medals. Most final

:24:00. > :24:09.days, we will see British action in there. That has come around really

:24:10. > :24:12.quickly. I am so excited. The men's bronze in London was one of my

:24:13. > :24:22.favourite medals in the Olympic Games. We may even have our first

:24:23. > :24:29.Olympic champion as well. On the pommel horse. You have to set your

:24:30. > :24:39.alarm for the middle of the night, but for gymnastics, we are in One

:24:40. > :24:45.Show time! Thank you, Gabby. The BBC's coverage of the Olympic Games

:24:46. > :24:48.begins on Friday the 5th of August from 11:35 p.m.. Now, what prompts

:24:49. > :24:53.someone to walk away from the religious beliefs they were born

:24:54. > :24:56.into? To find out, Amber Haque match two women who have struggled with

:24:57. > :25:01.their faiths and make that difficult choice.

:25:02. > :25:07.Aliyah and Christal were brought up to believe in God. And they are, as

:25:08. > :25:10.a Muslim. I was so intensely religious that I would have said it

:25:11. > :25:18.was OK to star in a person for adultery. Christal, as a Christian.

:25:19. > :25:22.It was individual to me, developing a relationship with God. Growing up,

:25:23. > :25:26.Aliyah and Christal came to believe that their faiths were not right for

:25:27. > :25:31.them. But both women felt strongly enough to do something about it.

:25:32. > :25:37.They walked away. At 18, Aliyah removed failed that she had worn for

:25:38. > :25:42.almost a decade. I looked in the mirror and realised, this is the

:25:43. > :25:48.person I am. Christal converted to Islam while in law student at

:25:49. > :25:54.university. To put on a scarf, you are saying, I am a Muslim now. I

:25:55. > :25:58.have never taken it off. At the age of 11, Aliyah started to wear the

:25:59. > :26:01.hijab when her family sent her to an Islamic boarding school in the

:26:02. > :26:07.Midlands. She found a school's rules hard to live with. He wanted to

:26:08. > :26:11.listen to music in your own bedroom, you were breaking a rule. If you

:26:12. > :26:14.want to wear lip gloss, you were freaking overall. She was eventually

:26:15. > :26:19.expelled and that the age of 16 were sent to Pakistan to study the Koran.

:26:20. > :26:29.The study was really intensive. I pushed back against it for so long.

:26:30. > :26:34.And now devout, and a return to the UK to study for her A-levels at her

:26:35. > :26:42.local sixth form college. I started to identify with it, but realised I

:26:43. > :26:46.had been made to wear the headscarf against my wishes. The more I read

:26:47. > :26:51.different criticisms, I moved into atheism. Christal also grew up in

:26:52. > :26:55.the Midlands, in Birmingham, where she was raised a Christian by her

:26:56. > :26:58.Jamaican father and British mother. Every Sunday, we would all get

:26:59. > :27:03.dressed and go to church and Sunday school. What made you want to make

:27:04. > :27:08.the switch to Islam? When I was doing my first degree. I had never

:27:09. > :27:12.been in such a multicultural setting, and I met a lot of Muslims.

:27:13. > :27:17.I was fascinated, so I started doing research. As I read more about

:27:18. > :27:21.Islam, I identified more with this than the religion I was following.

:27:22. > :27:24.By the time she had completed her Masters in law, Christal had

:27:25. > :27:28.converted to Islam. Deciding to give up the faith you were raised in is

:27:29. > :27:34.one thing. Telling your family of your decision is another. There was

:27:35. > :27:37.this reaction of, oh my God, does that mean you are going to have a

:27:38. > :27:42.boyfriend and start drinking? So what is the relationship like now

:27:43. > :27:48.with your parents? We are in a good place. Some of Christal's family

:27:49. > :27:51.were also concerned by her decision, as her sister Sharon explains. I

:27:52. > :27:55.wasn't happy to begin with other because we were brought up very

:27:56. > :28:03.Christian. I started to realise that it wasn't as big a deal as I felt it

:28:04. > :28:13.was. I used to have to explain it to people. They would be like, who is

:28:14. > :28:17.that Muslim girl? People stare, and I think, what are they looking at?

:28:18. > :28:21.It's just Christal. After leaving the faith they were brought up in,

:28:22. > :28:25.neither woman has found life straightforward. You feel like

:28:26. > :28:28.you're not allowed to be part of the community and in more, especially

:28:29. > :28:33.because I'm Pakistani. To say that you are atheist is still quite

:28:34. > :28:37.unacceptable. When I came to Islam, I did get a lot of funny looks and

:28:38. > :28:42.people staring at me. But then I realised they probably just don't

:28:43. > :28:46.see a lot of black people. Despite the challenges, Aliyah and Christal

:28:47. > :28:51.both feel they have made the right choice. I don't feel like I have to

:28:52. > :28:57.answer to those patriarchal rules any more. That gives me a lot of

:28:58. > :29:02.freedom. Any regrets? None at all. If anything, I wish I had come to

:29:03. > :29:08.Islam sooner, because I probably would have found peace in my life a

:29:09. > :29:11.lot quicker than I did. No regrets either side. Thank you to

:29:12. > :29:17.Aliyah and Christal for sharing their stories. We are almost up, but

:29:18. > :29:20.we just have time to tell about your new thing, Mary, the ElliptiGO. This

:29:21. > :29:25.looks fantastic. We heard about Zola doing some running, but you can't

:29:26. > :29:32.because of arthritis. Explain this, how far do you go on these? Well,

:29:33. > :29:43.this particular event is only a 12 mile race. But it is completely

:29:44. > :29:50.uphill. On that? The thing for me is that it saved my sanity. I could not

:29:51. > :29:54.run. I could shuffle, jog, which didn't give me the same feeling is

:29:55. > :30:01.running. And on the ElliptiGO, I can go as fast and hard as I want. Last

:30:02. > :30:11.year, I did 129 miles and 18,000 feet of climbing. It took over ten

:30:12. > :30:17.hours. I got to dig down. It has been wonderful to talk to you both

:30:18. > :30:21.tonight. Thank you for your company. You can see The Fall on Sky Atlantic

:30:22. > :30:25.this Friday at nine o'clock and also at selected cinemas nationwide on

:30:26. > :30:29.the same date. We will be back tomorrow at seven and we still have

:30:30. > :30:32.it a World Cup winner of 1956 with Jeremy Vine, and we all said have

:30:33. > :30:42.Isla Fisher and music from Reeth. Good night.

:30:43. > :30:48.We know that Verloc planted the bomb. You employ him.

:30:49. > :30:52.We ought to start thinking about what we're going to do.