:00:16. > :00:25.Hello, welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.
:00:26. > :00:29.Tonight's first guest has become a modern-day Dr Doolittle. He is
:00:30. > :00:35.surrounded by pigs, sheeps, goats, ducks, a barn owl. On-screen, we
:00:36. > :00:41.have seen him talking to elephants, cheetahs and the odd hippo. He is
:00:42. > :00:48.most happy when he is in the doghouse. There he is. Please
:00:49. > :00:53.welcome Paul O'Grady. How are you? Very well, thanks. Lovely to see
:00:54. > :01:01.you. Apart from this lousy weather driving me mad. It is nearly dark
:01:02. > :01:05.out there. I spent bank holiday watching daytime television! I can't
:01:06. > :01:09.imagine what that looks like. The lady we spoke to on the phone said
:01:10. > :01:12.we know animals respond to your voice. You have been trying to get
:01:13. > :01:22.this dog up the stairs for a long time? She wouldn't do stairs. Why
:01:23. > :01:29.not? She wouldn't. She was a bit Mariah Carey. I had a word and she
:01:30. > :01:33.shot up the stairs. This was supposed to happen over a few weeks.
:01:34. > :01:39.That was ruined. There was another dog who hadn't eaten for three
:01:40. > :01:45.weeks. I said, "Get that down you!" That was ruined as well. It is the
:01:46. > :01:50.gift of the gab! I think it is. We will talk more about your new
:01:51. > :01:55.series, For the Love of Dogs, later. OK. One man who needs no words of
:01:56. > :02:00.encouragement is Mo Farah. After this record-breaking weekend, he is
:02:01. > :02:03.having a ball. Quite literally! All in aid of charity. Mo is with us
:02:04. > :02:12.tonight and all will be revealed later. He made the most of his
:02:13. > :02:17.weekend, Paul! I know he did. He wasn't watching How To Cook! First,
:02:18. > :02:21.how is the threat of Islamic State and the recruitment of British young
:02:22. > :02:28.men to its cause regarded by British Muslims? Well, we went to
:02:29. > :02:33.Birmingham, a city with a Muslim population of 235,000, to canvas
:02:34. > :02:36.opinion as the news reported the murder of an American journalist and
:02:37. > :02:44.the persecution of minorities in Iraq.
:02:45. > :02:51.It doesn't surprise me. It is wrong. It is not right for any human being.
:02:52. > :02:54.They have been driven by this agitation and frustration. Young
:02:55. > :02:59.people are seeing injustices. They are going to defend what they think
:03:00. > :03:03.is morally justified reasons. When you think your brother and sister,
:03:04. > :03:07.or a member of the family, have been slaughtered for no reason, what
:03:08. > :03:15.would you feel like? You can't handle it. You dant take it. Surely,
:03:16. > :03:20.it is anti-Islamic to kill? The Americans are encouraging them. So
:03:21. > :03:25.they take the law into their hands. How can the Muslim community stop
:03:26. > :03:31.these youngsters from going to fight for groups like IS? More than 90% of
:03:32. > :03:36.people, they don't agree with this thing. They are against these
:03:37. > :03:41.things. Our kids are growing here. We don't need that terrorist and
:03:42. > :03:44.that stuff. We need peace here. I can't understand why they would go
:03:45. > :03:51.and fight for another country. I mean, I'm a British - I would rather
:03:52. > :04:05.fight for British. Or Britain. Is the West to blame? The sectarian
:04:06. > :04:10.violence inthe US. Violence breeds violence. What are Muslim women
:04:11. > :04:14.doing about the situation? They are doing what any mother would do, what
:04:15. > :04:22.any sister would do, what any wife would do. They can monitor
:04:23. > :04:26.behaviours and behavioural patterns to spot anything that's untoward. No
:04:27. > :04:32.mother wants their son going abroad to be killed, do they? Why are some
:04:33. > :04:36.young Muslims going off to fight in Iraq and Syria? I have not come
:04:37. > :04:41.across anyone who is planning to go in Iraq or in Syria. I think most of
:04:42. > :04:48.the people are being brainwashed. I think they have been told that Islam
:04:49. > :04:53.teaches to do this, this, this. And that teaching has been interpreted
:04:54. > :04:58.wrongly. Islam is peace. As a Muslim, we have been taught to like
:04:59. > :05:02.any human that's seen in trouble, go out and help them. They should stop
:05:03. > :05:07.the innocent being killed in Gaza and maybe the whole world will be at
:05:08. > :05:16.peace. If they don't put a stop to that, I think it will end up in
:05:17. > :05:23.World War. If American people, or Israeli, taking so many innocent
:05:24. > :05:30.lives, so many, and this retaliation to show America, or show to the
:05:31. > :05:35.world, if we cannot kill so many, may we kill one. It is brutal
:05:36. > :05:39.murder. It is a wrong thing to do. It's a message for America, to do
:05:40. > :05:49.the justice. Maajid Nawaz is a former Islamist
:05:50. > :05:55.extremist. He is a parliamentary candidate and he joins us now.
:05:56. > :05:58.Welcome. We didn't find any support for IS in the film there, although
:05:59. > :06:02.people were keen to blame Britain and the US for helping to create it.
:06:03. > :06:06.We heard references to Gaza. Do you think they are right then? Or is
:06:07. > :06:09.there an element of denial there? It is a lot more complicated than that.
:06:10. > :06:15.If we look at the kids that have gone over to join IS in Iraq, yes,
:06:16. > :06:20.we all disagree with foreign policy sometimes. I'm sure plenty of people
:06:21. > :06:24.have got plenty of things to say. What do those young kids have to do
:06:25. > :06:27.with Israel? What about the Yazidis they drove up a mountain and
:06:28. > :06:31.threatened genocide against them? They have nothing to do with Israel.
:06:32. > :06:35.We have to stop blaming one party and just as we expect the West and
:06:36. > :06:38.this society to condemn foreign policy, grievances and where there
:06:39. > :06:41.is torture and imprisonment, Muslims have to condemn atrocities when it
:06:42. > :06:48.is committed by other Muslims as well. What is the attraction then to
:06:49. > :06:59.young Brits, to join an organisation that is causing such atrocities?
:07:00. > :07:05.It's become the new trend, the new fashion, but unfortunately there is
:07:06. > :07:12.a jihadi call going on. When Robin Williams died, one of these guys is
:07:13. > :07:16.with a group that beheads people, but he regretted Robin Williams
:07:17. > :07:20.dying. It is a power attraction that is drawing them in? We have to have
:07:21. > :07:23.leading Muslim figures stand up to encourage these young kids to get
:07:24. > :07:27.involved with the system, with the country, and with the institutions.
:07:28. > :07:31.We can succeed here. There is a lot of talk about stopping these
:07:32. > :07:34.youngsters from going to Syria to fight. If you came face to face with
:07:35. > :07:38.one of these people in the airport before they are about to board the
:07:39. > :07:45.plane, what would you say to them then to try and convince not to go?
:07:46. > :07:49.I would plead with these people. Get in touch with me. I have witnessed
:07:50. > :07:52.the torture. I know what that anger feels like. Get in touch with me.
:07:53. > :07:56.I'm all over social media. I will speak to them directly and say you
:07:57. > :08:03.are not helping your religion and you are not helping the Syrians. You
:08:04. > :08:06.have made it impossible to remove the dictator. Everyone is talking
:08:07. > :08:09.about stopping IS. The tables have turned. Everyone is more scared of
:08:10. > :08:13.this terrorist group than they were of the dictator in Syria. It's
:08:14. > :08:22.backfiring. Please get in touch with me. I can explain how it feels and I
:08:23. > :08:25.was a political prisoner in the war on terror. This country will embrace
:08:26. > :08:30.you if you turn around. Please get in touch. There is a chance that
:08:31. > :08:34.human compassion will take over and some of these actions will draw
:08:35. > :08:39.people away? Human compassion is crucial, but what's needed before
:08:40. > :08:44.that happens is people to come forward as role models and to start
:08:45. > :09:06.speaking out openly. have to take those first few brave
:09:07. > :09:10.steps. We are starting a campaign to promote these role models to present
:09:11. > :09:13.a positive image of what Muslims can achieve in this country and we all
:09:14. > :09:17.want to stand together and say the solution is to engage with this
:09:18. > :09:20.country, people will listen. Elections are coming up in May. I
:09:21. > :09:29.want young people to register to vote, not to disengage from the
:09:30. > :09:34.system, like I did when I was 16. Thank you. Thank you. In a moment,
:09:35. > :09:39.we will be hearing all about Paul's new series, the third one. First,
:09:40. > :09:42.Michael Mosley meets an extraordinary young entrepreneur
:09:43. > :09:47.with an invention that could help us all.
:09:48. > :09:52.18-year-old Amber McCleary is an entrepreneur, with an idea that
:09:53. > :09:57.could save many lives. Amber has created a range of clothing for
:09:58. > :10:03.hospital patients. What makes her invention unusual is the material
:10:04. > :10:10.it's impregnated with - copper. It all began when she was just 16.
:10:11. > :10:15.Thanks to her smelly dog, Harvey! My initial idea was to create a dog bed
:10:16. > :10:20.that would be non-smelling, so I researched a number of fabrics to
:10:21. > :10:24.find out which fabrics would be anti-bacterial because it's the
:10:25. > :10:30.bacteria that creates the smell. This led Amber to the properties of
:10:31. > :10:36.copper. We worked with a few fabric technologists and we found a way to
:10:37. > :10:40.put the copper into the fabric. Is this a copper-impregnated dog
:10:41. > :10:46.basket? It sure is. The fabric that you can see on the outside is copper
:10:47. > :10:51.fabric, copper impregnated. Have you tried it on your smelly dog? I did.
:10:52. > :11:01.How did you get from materials which are about reducing the smell to
:11:02. > :11:05.hospital-acquired infections? One of my family went into hospital to have
:11:06. > :11:10.a baby and she contracted MRSA. I created a pair of pyjamas and it
:11:11. > :11:16.went from there. Although we can't be sure that wearing the pyjamas
:11:17. > :11:21.helped, Amber has developed a business based on the anti-microbial
:11:22. > :11:28.properties of this common metal. MRSA poss a threat to -- pose a
:11:29. > :11:32.threat to our health. So, could something as simple as copper really
:11:33. > :11:39.be effective against such a deadly foe? This professor has been at the
:11:40. > :11:45.forefront of research into this area. Today, he's coated pieces of
:11:46. > :11:51.stainless steel and copper with millions of MRSA bacteria to compare
:11:52. > :11:55.their anti-bacterial properties. The bacteria's progress will be studied
:11:56. > :12:01.in the specially-darkened room, while we watch the results next
:12:02. > :12:11.door. They should now be loading the microscopes up. Here we go. The
:12:12. > :12:17.green specks are MRSA, tagged with a fluorescent dye. Within seconds, the
:12:18. > :12:22.effects of the copper is clear. That is fast. These were exactly the same
:12:23. > :12:26.but within seconds of adding them, the copper started to kill. That is
:12:27. > :12:31.correct. The MRSA superbug thrives on stainless steel, but on copper,
:12:32. > :12:35.they are wiped out within minutes. That is really, really impressive, I
:12:36. > :12:40.have to say. That is ten million superbugs dying before your eyes.
:12:41. > :12:46.How does copper kill bacteria? We know more about the mechanism.
:12:47. > :12:51.Copper does it three-ways. As it races into the cell, it punches
:12:52. > :12:58.whole into the cell membrane. It inhibits the respiration and it
:12:59. > :13:02.destroys their DNA. Copper could have a wide range of applications
:13:03. > :13:06.throughout a hospital. If you do something as simple as replace door
:13:07. > :13:11.handles with copper-based alloys, studies have shown that can cut
:13:12. > :13:16.infection rates by a half. Amber is hoping if she can persuade enough
:13:17. > :13:22.patients to wear copper-impregnated clothing, that could have a
:13:23. > :13:28.significant effect on the spread of infections. They have begun testing
:13:29. > :13:31.Amber's innovative fabrics. Although not pure metal, the copper material
:13:32. > :13:38.is still effective and after 24 hours, the MRSA bacteria have been
:13:39. > :13:43.eradicated. It is really interesting and reassuring that the fabric also
:13:44. > :13:49.has this anti-microbial activity and it looks promising. Researchers at
:13:50. > :13:53.Croydon University Hospital are planning to do clinical trials of
:13:54. > :13:58.Amber's clothing, hoping to see if it does slow the spread of infection
:13:59. > :14:04.and whether it might promote wound healing. My aim is that we can get
:14:05. > :14:08.these products out into the NHS. That will be something great, not
:14:09. > :14:10.just for the NHS but for patients as well. The future is golden, or
:14:11. > :14:30.coppery? Yes, definitely coppery! would say it is unbelievable! We
:14:31. > :14:35.need to make these so fars out of copper! We have got all sorts of
:14:36. > :14:42.people sitting on these! You worked in a hospital? I was a
:14:43. > :14:45.physiotherapist assistant. You had this Irish dragon of a ward sister
:14:46. > :14:52.who wanted to know what you're doing and when the orderlies were there,
:14:53. > :14:56.they were organised and cleaning. In the hospital corners, and the matron
:14:57. > :15:00.did her rounds, everybody was terrified of her about the place was
:15:01. > :15:06.spotless. Why can't we do that again? Give them a good wage and
:15:07. > :15:11.train them how to clean the ward. Bring back the hierarchy of the
:15:12. > :15:29.sisters. Make visitor hours between such and such a time. On to the
:15:30. > :15:32.dogs. I am off on one again! Because I really value the national health
:15:33. > :15:37.and we have to do something to save it. It saved me on numerous
:15:38. > :15:42.occasions. Saving dogs back at Battersea, the third series and it
:15:43. > :15:49.is incredibly popular. Why do people like it? It has spawned all of these
:15:50. > :15:58.copycats. But what annoys me is they don't get me, they sort of... Do you
:15:59. > :16:03.want me to hold him? What they do is they don't go near them, this is a
:16:04. > :16:07.dog. But I get stuck in. He let the wild animals come to you what
:16:08. > :16:12.domesticated animals, you can fuss over them. How can I resist? How
:16:13. > :16:21.long was it before you adopted one of them? There he is. I go home and
:16:22. > :16:27.wordy. It does not finish whenever I leave Battersea. There was a dog
:16:28. > :16:32.that I fell head over heels for and I have to take. I did not count on
:16:33. > :16:39.Eddie, my other blog who was so fiercely possessive. They could not
:16:40. > :16:44.get on? He encouraged the others to attack her! And she was so passive,
:16:45. > :16:50.I could not believe her. I had to stay in the house. They had to be
:16:51. > :16:55.rescued from your house? Yes, I said leave it in because it shows that it
:16:56. > :16:59.is not easy adopting a dog. There are all sorts of things you need to
:17:00. > :17:09.take into consideration. Here you are in full Doctor Dolittle mode,
:17:10. > :17:14.talking to the animals. Gromit? Makeweight, we will have a chat!
:17:15. > :17:21.Right, let me get down. I want to talk to you. Do you know what your
:17:22. > :17:30.trouble is? Clinical obesity. But I don't pull my punches, you are fat!
:17:31. > :17:33.This has to stop. Philadelphia, progressing to Cheddar cheese and
:17:34. > :17:44.then the hard stuff, from France. I have been there! It is terrible, so
:17:45. > :17:48.hard. You go in there and what gets me are the older dogs whose owners
:17:49. > :17:51.have died and they have ended up in Battersea and they have all sorts of
:17:52. > :18:00.ailments and they are sitting in the kennel thinking, why am I hear? That
:18:01. > :18:05.breaks my heart. We have seen me as Lily Savage, all of those years
:18:06. > :18:13.behind you. What is it next chapter? I will be reading the news and
:18:14. > :18:22.weather next! Are you where you want to be? Or do you have more? For the
:18:23. > :18:28.love of dangerous reptiles! See if anybody tries to copy that!
:18:29. > :18:32.Something less fluffy. But I really enjoy it, it is a very nice job to
:18:33. > :18:37.do and it is great for Battersea. People say to me, I always wondered
:18:38. > :18:43.what goes on there. And you find out, they are such good people. You
:18:44. > :18:47.should the true picture. I love it. All of those lovely dogs and when I
:18:48. > :18:52.retire I will be on Channel 4 in a documentary, sitting with a pig next
:18:53. > :19:03.to me on the couch! You are not far-away! I am covered in cuts! That
:19:04. > :19:08.is from an aisle! For The Love Of Dogs starts on Thursday the 4th of
:19:09. > :19:12.September at 8:30pm on ITV. We will talk to Mo Farah in a moment, he is
:19:13. > :19:18.fresh from his record picking weekend. First, Moorland is on the
:19:19. > :19:25.trail of the dog that would give him a run for his money. I have gone
:19:26. > :19:32.down to Battle in East Sussex for a unique spectacle of canine
:19:33. > :19:35.behaviour. This is a bloodhound packs, doing what they do best.
:19:36. > :19:43.Hunting, living and breathing as they would have done thousands of
:19:44. > :19:48.years ago. No other dog can hoover up the scent as well as a bloodhound
:19:49. > :19:50.but one generation ago, they would have died out completely but for the
:19:51. > :19:57.efforts of breeders like Nick Wheeler. I have got 18 couples
:19:58. > :20:05.altogether. They are counted in pairs. I will leave you to work that
:20:06. > :20:09.out! Bloodhounds can eat six kilos every day so years of wartime
:20:10. > :20:17.rationing in the 40s saw them become nearly extinct. We get to well over
:20:18. > :20:21.one tonne of food every month. And they take a lot of exercising, they
:20:22. > :20:27.exercise every day to keep fit, they are in a lot of work. A bloodhound
:20:28. > :20:32.needs to be exercised up to ten miles everyday. It is not the dog
:20:33. > :20:35.for a leisurely country walk. Tell me more about when breeding, what
:20:36. > :20:41.characteristics are you trying to get? Obviously, hunting ability is
:20:42. > :20:48.paramount. Agility is very important, they have to be able to
:20:49. > :20:51.do the job of hunting. Unlike other breeds, bloodhounds do not use their
:20:52. > :20:57.eyes to hunt scent trails, only the nose. Their long years help to
:20:58. > :21:04.funnel the smell. The nose is down, sniffing the air. Bloodhounds have
:21:05. > :21:08.an almost supernatural ability, earning it a unique place in
:21:09. > :21:11.history. The story of the English bloodhound is the story of the
:21:12. > :21:17.English nation. They came over with William the Conqueror intensity six
:21:18. > :21:22.and from then on, English rulers have used the formidable powers of
:21:23. > :21:27.the bloodhound to track down enemies. One example would be
:21:28. > :21:33.Elizabeth first, it is believed that a troop of 800 bloodhounds
:21:34. > :21:39.accompanied her forces to crush the Irish Rebellion, which was quite
:21:40. > :21:45.successful. The word bloodhound has become a metaphor for a detective.
:21:46. > :21:50.That started at the start of the 19th century, crime writers were
:21:51. > :21:58.important to making this connection so, like the bloodhound, Sherlock
:21:59. > :22:01.Holmes has his nose to the ground. So swift, silent and furtive were
:22:02. > :22:08.his movements, like those of a trained bloodhound. The US police
:22:09. > :22:12.still use bloodhounds as working dogs to find missing people. But
:22:13. > :22:19.British forces struggled with their expensive upkeep and no longer use
:22:20. > :22:22.them. These hounds keep their skills honed by regularly hunting humans,
:22:23. > :22:28.like Adrian Pace, across the country. Despite its fearsome name,
:22:29. > :22:33.the bloodhound is not bloodthirsty. They do not hunt for the kill, just
:22:34. > :22:37.the fun of finding people. And no artificial smells are used to help.
:22:38. > :22:41.They are basically just hunting the skin that falls from us while we are
:22:42. > :22:47.running, that is why we were the least amount of clothing, if
:22:48. > :22:52.possible. Incredible. Adrian needs a decent head start, as bloodhounds
:22:53. > :22:59.aren't sent at up to 28 mph. Horseback is the only way to keep
:23:00. > :23:07.up. This bloodcurdling arcing means they have find Adrian's smell. These
:23:08. > :23:12.bloodhounds are so skilful, they can follow the scent trail days after it
:23:13. > :23:29.was laid. Well done, Sir! That was good. Here they come. Fantastic. God
:23:30. > :23:34.forbid, if I was a fugitive, I would have given up. On the flip side, if
:23:35. > :23:40.I was lost in the wilderness, they would be very welcome sight. I'm
:23:41. > :23:45.sure they would, ten miles exercise every day, you could take those out
:23:46. > :23:53.twice? You just said, 18 miles everyday. I have not done that in my
:23:54. > :24:02.lifetime! Congratulations to Mo Farah! He broke the record set by
:24:03. > :24:08.Steve Gorvett 36 years ago. Five years ago before little Mo was born.
:24:09. > :24:14.Not a great year, you missed out on the Commonwealth Games? It has been
:24:15. > :24:20.up and down, quite disappointing but we take that for granted. My health
:24:21. > :24:24.was not right. And I struggled through the year. I would have loved
:24:25. > :24:29.to compete at the Commonwealth Games but I was not ready and then I got
:24:30. > :24:36.ready for the Europeans. To turn that around in two weeks was amazing
:24:37. > :24:41.for me. And real sadness as far as New York was concerned, that
:24:42. > :24:46.real-time point in your career? Yes, as a distance runner, I normally do
:24:47. > :24:56.10,000 so when you train for the marathon, it takes more out of you.
:24:57. > :25:14.You are taking time out to organise a posh bash? It is a charity ball?
:25:15. > :25:19.You have just made that up! Bosh? It is a night of champions, for my
:25:20. > :25:27.foundation. Do you have to run? No, there is an option. It is a
:25:28. > :25:31.brilliant foundation. Yes, we started this in Africa but we all
:25:32. > :25:35.involved heavily in the UK, offering athletes a scholarship so we are
:25:36. > :25:40.working and hopefully that will go to a very good cause. Tickets are
:25:41. > :25:49.available, if you are free on Thursday night for the bosh! I will
:25:50. > :25:54.wear my tracksuit! Following on from your success at running, some people
:25:55. > :26:06.have put some pictures together, interesting pictures, this is you on
:26:07. > :26:13.the finishing line. Running from the Teletubbies? This got us thinking,
:26:14. > :26:31.we have a challenge for both of you. You are going to play, if you do not
:26:32. > :26:39.mind, What's Behind Mo? We have the green screen over there, guess who
:26:40. > :26:43.is behind it. Teamwork! This is all an explanation, you must describe
:26:44. > :26:51.what is appearing behind Mo Farah. Is he in position? Assume the
:26:52. > :27:00.finishing position. And your face, and the arms. There you are. Paul,
:27:01. > :27:13.if you are ready. You cannot mention it, just describe it. Here is the
:27:14. > :27:29.clue. Na-na-na-na. I don't know. It eats people! Shark? It is a film.
:27:30. > :27:48.Shark? That will do. What sort of shark? Move on. They are in Doctor
:27:49. > :27:54.Who, they say ex-terminate. The third one? My Lord. She is a very
:27:55. > :27:59.beautiful lady with dark roots, she is known for her compassion and your
:28:00. > :28:11.good taste and her sense of humour. She is lovely. Just say Lily Savage!
:28:12. > :28:28.You have time. Hang on. Set the scene. It hit the iceberg and sank.
:28:29. > :28:38.It is Bishop. It means enormous. Titanic? Yes! Thank you so much for
:28:39. > :28:47.being such a great sport. Thank you for your help. My nerves always go
:28:48. > :28:52.doing this sort of thing. For The Love Of Dogs is on the 4th of
:28:53. > :28:58.September. Tomorrow night, back to school. We have got David Walliams
:28:59. > :29:04.and Catherine Tate. There they are, behind Mo Farah. We will see you
:29:05. > :29:06.then. Thank you again. Have a lovely night. And we will see you tomorrow.
:29:07. > :29:21.Good luck in the Great North Run! Go away if you don't want me
:29:22. > :29:23.to speak to you like that! Most schools exclude
:29:24. > :29:26.disruptive pupils... And I ain't putting up
:29:27. > :29:29.with this any more.