:00:16. > :00:21.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones and Matt Baker. Our
:00:22. > :00:26.guest tonight has been described as the greatest male dancer of his
:00:27. > :00:31.generation, and his is a real ration to riches story. It began on the
:00:32. > :00:36.streets of Havana, cube barks ballet school saved him from a life of
:00:37. > :00:40.poverty and crime. By 16 he was winning international awards and was
:00:41. > :00:44.soon dance ing with the finest companies, including the Bolshoi.
:00:45. > :00:47.This month saw him leave the Royal Ballet after 17 years at the very
:00:48. > :00:52.top of his game. APPLAUSE. Please welcome Carlos
:00:53. > :01:08.Acosta! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Wow! Will
:01:09. > :01:11.that do it, is that snuff? No, he gets 20-minute standing ovations,
:01:12. > :01:18.that's the deal. APPLAUSE. Seriously, we haven't got
:01:19. > :01:23.time for this! OK, fair enough. We've got a half-hour show to do.
:01:24. > :01:26.We'll do it at the end. But it is true that that happened at the end
:01:27. > :01:31.of your last performance at the Royal Ballet, you had a huge
:01:32. > :01:36.standing ovation. Yes, it was great. It was very emotional, 17 years is
:01:37. > :01:41.quite a long time for a ballet dancer. And 20 minutes is quite a
:01:42. > :01:47.long time, to be fair, Carlos. Were you expecting that? No, I mean...
:01:48. > :01:50.What did you do for 20 minutes? I would talk and then there were
:01:51. > :01:55.pictures, and society prolonged the time. It wasn't just a straight 20
:01:56. > :01:59.minutes. Oh right. As you mentioned, there you did make a speech to
:02:00. > :02:04.inpyre the younger generation of ballet dancers, so this evening we
:02:05. > :02:08.have got some young ballet dancers from the London Studio Centre. They
:02:09. > :02:12.are all very excited to be here and to ask you questions later on.
:02:13. > :02:16.Wonderful. And you've come from the training hall. We'll be talking
:02:17. > :02:22.about that shortly, Carlos. Before that, the decision not to show a
:02:23. > :02:26.Church of England advert in the UK's largest cinema chains hag making
:02:27. > :02:30.headlines all week. But would cinema goers really be offended by the
:02:31. > :02:36.Lord's Prayer. ? The One Show put that to the test. Our father in
:02:37. > :02:41.Heaven... Hallowed by your name... The news that this advert with was
:02:42. > :02:46.going to be banned in most mainstream cinemas in the UK as it
:02:47. > :02:52.may cause offence has sparked a debate about religious censorship.
:02:53. > :02:57.We live in a pro dominantly Christian country, so is it a case
:02:58. > :03:05.of being oversensitive about other people's faiths? DCM state they have
:03:06. > :03:07.a long-standing policy of not allowing political or religious
:03:08. > :03:12.advertising, but today we are going to let the people decide. I've come
:03:13. > :03:16.to a small independent cinema in North London to show the Church of
:03:17. > :03:23.England's banned advert for the very first time on the big screen. Give
:03:24. > :03:30.us this day... But I'm also going to show another advert for women's
:03:31. > :03:35.lingerie. This was not only approved for cinematic release by DCM but
:03:36. > :03:39.they gave it an award as the best cinema advertisement ever. I want to
:03:40. > :03:44.know which they find more offensive and why. Which of those adverts did
:03:45. > :03:49.you find more offensive? I find neither offensive. I don't like
:03:50. > :03:54.either of them personally. It is strange that Kylie can ride around
:03:55. > :03:57.on a bucking Bronco in her underwear and that not be banned whereas
:03:58. > :04:01.something as simple as the Lord's Prayer has been banned because it
:04:02. > :04:05.upsets a board of people. Did you find the lingerie advert offencive?
:04:06. > :04:10.No. Would all the men in the audience stand up? It made you very
:04:11. > :04:14.uncomfortable: Yeah, as a guy watching that it made me feel
:04:15. > :04:19.uncomfortable. If it is forced upon you in a public place, it is like...
:04:20. > :04:23.For thine the the kingdom, the power and the glory... The Church of
:04:24. > :04:27.England advert was banned on the grounds that it may offend people of
:04:28. > :04:31.other faiths. Is that the case? Difficult for me to put myself in
:04:32. > :04:35.other faith's shoes, so I think what's offensive is that thing of
:04:36. > :04:38.you must must believe in one thing, whether it is the Church of England
:04:39. > :04:42.or whether it is another faith really. Maybe if you start
:04:43. > :04:47.advertising the Church of England, would a whole lot of unappealing
:04:48. > :04:53.churches feel they should have airtime too? I'm a Christian but I
:04:54. > :04:57.wouldn't have a problem if it was pray from the perspective of Islam
:04:58. > :05:10.or Judaism, or anything like that... Amen... Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. The
:05:11. > :05:13.irony is that they polled it that it wouldn't cause controversy and
:05:14. > :05:17.that's what it is creating. Let's talk about the sin marks Carlos. If
:05:18. > :05:21.it wasn't for the Cuban cinema and your dad visiting it the chances are
:05:22. > :05:26.you wouldn't be here now talking about the career you had. I miss my
:05:27. > :05:34.dad. He died a few years back. He went into a movie theatre, where he
:05:35. > :05:39.is from, and he was, it was a movie for white people. He managed to
:05:40. > :05:46.sneak in and see this wonderful movie, a dancing movie. That's where
:05:47. > :05:50.the whole image stays with him. He decided eventually that the youngest
:05:51. > :05:53.of his 11 kids would be a ballet dancer. He pushed me into that
:05:54. > :05:57.direction against my will. Right at the beginning is it true that you
:05:58. > :06:00.weren't that keen on the idea and didn't really find it that
:06:01. > :06:07.pleasurable? I hated ballet. Did you? I really hated it, because I
:06:08. > :06:13.wanted to be a footballer. Then I moved into wanting to become Michael
:06:14. > :06:18.Jackson, but I felt so comfortable practising the moonwalk and all
:06:19. > :06:23.these movements, but ballet, when you start studying ballet it is very
:06:24. > :06:28.tire which and with this piano music. For a nine-year-old kid, that
:06:29. > :06:33.was very boring. When did it turn around? What was the key to you
:06:34. > :06:36.loving it? I saw the National Ballet of Cuba for the first time. I saw
:06:37. > :06:42.the professionals leaping and the way they were built and the way they
:06:43. > :06:47.held themselves. I saw the athletic part of ballet and I said wow, this
:06:48. > :06:51.is amazing. From the first time there was no turning back. And then
:06:52. > :06:54.you went on to have an incredible career, 26 years on the stage. Do
:06:55. > :06:58.you still, because you've played on some of the most beautiful stages in
:06:59. > :07:07.the world, but do you still fell a connection to Cuba? Cuba is wherever
:07:08. > :07:11.I am. I have it in my heart. And in fact all I want to do with my
:07:12. > :07:15.foundation is to give back to my country. It is an island, it is lice
:07:16. > :07:21.lated. I'm trying to make this bridge between Cuba and the world
:07:22. > :07:27.and trying to bring artists into the island. Cuba is very special to me.
:07:28. > :07:30.And I guess with 10 brothers and sisters it is hard not to feel that
:07:31. > :07:34.connection. My word! You've seen we've got a lot of young ballet
:07:35. > :07:37.dancers here. A lot of those that you were addressing the information
:07:38. > :07:42.and the advice for the future towards in that farewell speech.
:07:43. > :07:47.They've got some questions for you. Shall we start with Sarah? At 42,
:07:48. > :07:51.how hard is it for you to keep yourself in top condition? It is
:07:52. > :07:57.harder than before, because when you are younger you are made of clay,
:07:58. > :08:04.meaning that I didn't even know what ice was. I could jump and jump, but
:08:05. > :08:09.now I do that and two days later I'm still suffering from it. You have to
:08:10. > :08:20.push your body even more to deliver that kind of quality at this stage.
:08:21. > :08:23.It is true every day we are losing facultities. You have to keep the
:08:24. > :08:30.body in top condition. I think you've got a few more years yet,
:08:31. > :08:34.Sarah. Let's go to. What do you think about when you are dancing? A
:08:35. > :08:40.wonderful connection to my audience, to surprise them, to try to connect
:08:41. > :08:46.in many layers. I feel joy and freedom. I think it is great. I also
:08:47. > :08:56.like challenges. In fact there were a lot of roles that on paper I was
:08:57. > :09:15.not suited. I could do the Hunter and Corsair, turn myself into a
:09:16. > :09:19.Prince or to be Romeo. How is a Prince supposed to behave? I had no
:09:20. > :09:27.clue, so it took me a long time and it was a long process to try to
:09:28. > :09:32.bring my Prince forward. But I liked that challenge. Jo, your question.
:09:33. > :09:37.This is before you go on stage isn't it? I wonder if you have any rituals
:09:38. > :09:46.that you do in the wings before you go on? No rituals, just enjoy. Warm
:09:47. > :09:56.up your body, be focused and just understand that we really, really,
:09:57. > :10:00.how do you say? Feel the music. Anyway, what we do is just
:10:01. > :10:05.wonderful. It is for everybody's pleasure. In itself it is just a
:10:06. > :10:09.beautiful thing. OK. And you have officially retired but you have got
:10:10. > :10:14.a farewell tour starting on 8th December. What can people expect
:10:15. > :10:21.from that and will bit the final hurrah? No, it will be, actually
:10:22. > :10:27.what I'm doing is transitioning. I've been so far a classical wallet
:10:28. > :10:33.dancer. Slowly stopping. This performance that I do in a week's
:10:34. > :10:38.time in the Coliseum, it gives the chance for the audience to see me
:10:39. > :10:42.dance the classical roles again. But slowly I will transition into more
:10:43. > :10:47.contemporary areas. And the moonwalk, you could go back to that.
:10:48. > :10:53.Maybe. I think the farewell tour he's going to take two days off
:10:54. > :11:00.after the performance. There's a whole episode dedicated to Carlos on
:11:01. > :11:06.8th December on BBC One, called A Classic Farewell. For generations
:11:07. > :11:10.men and women have argued which is harder, going out to work to put
:11:11. > :11:15.bread on the table or staying at home to look after the children. We
:11:16. > :11:23.sent Jo to join one dad on his very first day left holding a baby. It is
:11:24. > :11:27.Monday morning in the James household and mine month old baby
:11:28. > :11:33.Nylah is enjoying quality time with mum Katie. But it is a big day for
:11:34. > :11:38.Katie. Today she's handing over had reins to her partner Tom as he
:11:39. > :11:42.becomes a full-time daddy and she heads back to work. I've been off
:11:43. > :11:48.for nine months. Tom's been off with me for two months. This is his first
:11:49. > :11:52.day solo. Should be good. I'm looking forward to going back to
:11:53. > :11:57.work. A good time. I'm ready to go back. Tom's taking advantage of new
:11:58. > :12:02.rules which mean instead of feting just two weeks paid paternity lead
:12:03. > :12:08.dads can split up to 50 weeks leave with their partner. Hello. Tom, how
:12:09. > :12:16.is it going? Good, mate. Seven months on from the changes just 2%
:12:17. > :12:19.of new dads have used them, possibly because statutory pay for parenting
:12:20. > :12:25.stops after nine weeks, Tom's leave is unpaid. How are you feeling?
:12:26. > :12:28.Pretty good. I suppose a few nerves around making sure she doesn't miss
:12:29. > :12:33.mum too much, but I think we'll be OK. Quite a cost though. How are you
:12:34. > :12:39.going to cope financially? It is not easy to go down to one or no income.
:12:40. > :12:44.It is challenging. At the start of day one Tom's confident he can cope.
:12:45. > :12:49.I fancy myself in the househusband stakes. I say that but it might be
:12:50. > :12:55.that she comes home to a war zone, of dribble bibs and Eritreas strewn
:12:56. > :13:01.everywhere. I think in some ways he'll be a bit surprised how tough
:13:02. > :13:07.it can be. He's got his own mind and he's a really good dad. Good luck I
:13:08. > :13:24.say. With Katie off to work, her daddy daycare starts in earnest.
:13:25. > :13:35.Let's go. Are you the only person you know of who is doing this? I am,
:13:36. > :13:40.yes. I've been surprised how few of the dads I've spoken to are aware it
:13:41. > :13:44.is something they can do. It is a fairly recent law, but there still
:13:45. > :13:49.seems to be a lot of ignorance about the rights that you have as a
:13:50. > :13:52.father. And in this family the new law is just catching up with
:13:53. > :13:56.something they've long seen as natural. What do you make of Tom and
:13:57. > :14:02.Katie sharing this paternitial leave? I was delighted when I heard
:14:03. > :14:07.what they were going to do. When Katie was three months old I put her
:14:08. > :14:11.in a backpack and took her to Paris, where I was working as a painter and
:14:12. > :14:16.decorator. She came with me. It was part of what we did, sharing the
:14:17. > :14:22.care. Katie feels that the father of her child can do absolutely what she
:14:23. > :14:30.does, so there's a strong sense of equality. Hello. Who is that? Mummy!
:14:31. > :14:34.While she may not have noticed the change, after her first day back at
:14:35. > :14:39.work, it is fair to say that mum's missed her. We asked Tom to keep a
:14:40. > :14:47.video diary of the first two weeks of his time as a stay at home dad,
:14:48. > :14:54.recording the highs and the lows. Nappy has been changed, she might be
:14:55. > :14:59.tired. Maybe she's missing mum. We are getting into a morning routine
:15:00. > :15:04.where we have a little bit of a lie-in once mummy's gone off to
:15:05. > :15:08.work. Today we are off to our first playgroup together, which is a
:15:09. > :15:14.chance for her to make some friends, and maybe for me to make friends.
:15:15. > :15:19.She woke up at silly oh clock and went back to sleep alright, but I
:15:20. > :15:27.didn't. I did pretty much everything I planned on doing, it went out of
:15:28. > :15:32.the window. She was a bit grizzly and it rained on us. And yeah, she
:15:33. > :15:46.properly knackered me out today. When she starts getting a bit more
:15:47. > :15:56.mobile, I'll need eyes in the back of my head but, at the moment, it's
:15:57. > :16:02.brilliant. It's wonderful with her. Thom and Katie join us now. But
:16:03. > :16:05.having a night off. Normally when we get people on television, they bury
:16:06. > :16:09.their heads in their hands, but you were just, putting your emotions for
:16:10. > :16:18.your daughter on the screen, it was lovely. How have you been finding
:16:19. > :16:21.it, Thom? It's been good. Getting my head round the routine has been a
:16:22. > :16:30.challenge, but I'm getting there now. I don't have as much spare time
:16:31. > :16:34.up my sleeve as I thought. Is that the biggest surprise? I knew it
:16:35. > :16:39.would be full-time but there is no letup, even when she is asleep. You
:16:40. > :16:44.are tidying up after herself -- yourself and her, getting the meals
:16:45. > :16:48.ready. But I'm loving it. How do you feel, now you are back at work,
:16:49. > :16:54.Katie? Do you feel you have made the right decision or are you got it to
:16:55. > :16:57.leave in the morning? I think I was ready to go back to work and it is
:16:58. > :17:02.lovely coming home to see they have had a great day, laughing and
:17:03. > :17:09.giggling. This is their time. I had my time. It's awesome. And you've
:17:10. > :17:20.got a cook and a cleaner. I know! The food you must have two bridges
:17:21. > :17:24.just for the cat! -- the food you must have two bridges. Can you
:17:25. > :17:31.imagine this happening in Cuba? Would your dad have stayed at home?
:17:32. > :17:42.My dad stay at home... Well... Anyway, 11 kids... Very hard. Oh,
:17:43. > :17:46.it's a tricky one. We are not pushing Nyla in any direction
:17:47. > :18:01.whatsoever, but Carlos has brought a present. There you are. Thank you.
:18:02. > :18:05.All signed. Thank you! As a stay at home dad, doing the domestic staff,
:18:06. > :18:11.we know you will be well into your washing machines and ironing boards,
:18:12. > :18:14.so we are crossing over to Watchdog now. Let's have a look at what they
:18:15. > :18:21.are up to. They are just preparing for the programme. Chris, Michelle
:18:22. > :18:27.and Matt, tell us what you have got on. Tonight, we look at the illegal
:18:28. > :18:31.trade in puppies. It is reckoned that tens of thousands of dogs are
:18:32. > :18:35.being prepared ready to be imported into the UK in time for Christmas
:18:36. > :18:40.and we ask the government what they are doing to try and stop that cruel
:18:41. > :18:44.and barbaric trade. Last week, we were talking about remote-controlled
:18:45. > :18:49.drones falling out of the sky. This week, a family got in touch to tell
:18:50. > :18:52.us that their 18-month-old child has suffered life changing injuries
:18:53. > :18:59.because a drone hit him in their garden. Plus everybody is talking
:19:00. > :19:07.about Black Friday, racing to the shops. But are you really getting a
:19:08. > :19:17.bargain? Or is it just a blag? Is it blag Friday? 7:30pm, BBC One. Soon,
:19:18. > :19:21.we will be meeting the British writer whose script for Steven
:19:22. > :19:26.Spielberg's latest film deals with espionage and injustice in 1950s
:19:27. > :19:27.America but, before that, here is down with a historic tale of
:19:28. > :19:47.injustice from much closer to home. At 6am one morning in the autumn of
:19:48. > :19:50.1916, during the horror of the Battle of the Somme, a tragedy of a
:19:51. > :19:59.different kind was unfolding behind British lines. Private Harry Farr
:20:00. > :20:05.was gunned down in a hail of bullets leaving behind a young wife and a 1
:20:06. > :20:08.-year-old daughter. Unlike hundreds of thousands of other British
:20:09. > :20:16.soldiers on the Western front, those bullets didn't come from German
:20:17. > :20:21.rifles but British ones. Harry Farr was a steelworker from north
:20:22. > :20:27.Kensington. He enlisted in the Army reservists in 1908, aged just 17. By
:20:28. > :20:31.1916, he had fought bravely and was known to be a soldier of good
:20:32. > :20:36.character, so how did he end up in front of a British firing squad?
:20:37. > :20:40.Julian Bukowski, a military historian, was one of the first to
:20:41. > :20:45.study what happened to Harry. There was an attack coming up and he was
:20:46. > :20:50.ordered to go forward with the rest of the party. His nerves failed him
:20:51. > :20:55.and he said he couldn't go. The Sergeant said, you've got to go. He
:20:56. > :21:00.said, I can't face it. A witness said he was trembling and not in a
:21:01. > :21:03.good state. Like thousands of other soldiers, Harry was displaying
:21:04. > :21:08.classic signs of shellshock and not for the first time. You read about
:21:09. > :21:15.officers getting sent back to nice hospitals in the UK. Why didn't that
:21:16. > :21:17.happen about him? He is a working-class labourer in a society
:21:18. > :21:24.where class counts for everything. He was just a man, a number. Was he
:21:25. > :21:29.arrested? He faced a court martial. He didn't have a defending officer
:21:30. > :21:34.so he was defending himself and they didn't consider his medical
:21:35. > :21:39.evidence. He stood no chance. That is not a legal system. No, but court
:21:40. > :21:49.martial is odd about justice but about discipline. -- court-martial
:21:50. > :21:52.is not. On the 18th of October in north-east France by the light of
:21:53. > :21:58.dawn, a priest read out a final prayer. What happened next
:21:59. > :22:02.demonstrated that Harry Farr was no coward. Like many other brave
:22:03. > :22:07.soldiers shot for apparent cowardice, he refused to wear a
:22:08. > :22:13.blindfold. According to the chaplain standing next to him, Farr wanted to
:22:14. > :22:14.look into the eyes of the firing squad, stared down the barrels of
:22:15. > :22:28.the rifles that would kill him. That order to execute Harry Farr
:22:29. > :22:36.would echo down through the years of his family. Janet who is Harry's
:22:37. > :22:41.granddaughter. How did your grandmother react? She didn't tell
:22:42. > :22:48.anyone. It was such a stigma and a shame for somebody a member of the
:22:49. > :22:54.family, to be executed. Wives of those executed were not entitled to
:22:55. > :22:59.a widow's pension at the time. Janet's grandmother and her mother
:23:00. > :23:02.were left poverty stricken. I was visiting my grandmother and doing
:23:03. > :23:08.the family tree. I thought I would look up his grave. She said, well he
:23:09. > :23:15.hasn't got one because he was executed. When you found out, did
:23:16. > :23:21.you feel ashamed or angry? I wasn't ashamed, I was angry because I felt
:23:22. > :23:24.and injustice had been done. After discovering the secret, Janet
:23:25. > :23:31.campaigned for 15 years to have her grandfather pardoned. Private Harry
:23:32. > :23:36.Farr is to be granted a posthumous pardon... The British government
:23:37. > :23:40.granted a pardon to him and the other 305 men executed during the
:23:41. > :23:45.conflict. People say you can't rewrite history, but we did, didn't
:23:46. > :23:54.we, in the end. I was very proud that I was able, for my grandmother,
:23:55. > :23:58.to get his name cleared. What a sobering story. We are joined
:23:59. > :24:03.by somebody else who has rewritten history although, in this case, he
:24:04. > :24:11.turned it into a movie. Please welcome mat Charlie. Great to see
:24:12. > :24:17.you. You have penned the new Spielberg Cold War thriller. Yes, I
:24:18. > :24:20.am slightly pinching myself. It is called Bridge of Spies and it is
:24:21. > :24:27.based on a true story, never told before. How did you uncover writ? I
:24:28. > :24:34.found it as a footnote in a history book, a biography of JFK. A section
:24:35. > :24:38.of it talked about the Bay of pigs and, after that catastrophe, JFK
:24:39. > :24:42.wanted to get back the 1500 servicemen who had been caught and
:24:43. > :24:48.captured. He negotiated with Fidel Castro using a lawyer. In this book,
:24:49. > :24:52.there was a footnote saying, James Donovan came to prominence for the
:24:53. > :24:56.part he played in a spy swap previously between a Russian and an
:24:57. > :25:00.American. I was reading and thinking, who is this guy? Never
:25:01. > :25:04.heard of him and yet he played a part in two massive moments in
:25:05. > :25:08.history. I started to try and find out who he was. I put lots of pieces
:25:09. > :25:12.of the jigsaw together but what was amazing for me and emotional was
:25:13. > :25:16.meeting his son in New York. He talks about his father and the fact
:25:17. > :25:21.that his dad did this remarkable thing but had never really had his
:25:22. > :25:27.moment. I said to him, I will do my best to tell the story. That is
:25:28. > :25:31.where it started. You pitch it to Spielberg and he picked it up and
:25:32. > :25:37.Tom Hanks is in it, mark Rylands. We are going to look at the clip and
:25:38. > :25:41.then we will talk more. I don't work for the government. I am here to
:25:42. > :25:54.offer my services as your legal counsel. If you accept them as such,
:25:55. > :26:04.I am with you. If I accept you? Are you good at what you do? Yeah, yeah,
:26:05. > :26:14.pretty good. Have you represented many accused spies? No, not yet. Tom
:26:15. > :26:18.Hanks playing James Donovan, representing a Soviet spy. Tell us
:26:19. > :26:23.how the story develops, because it is more than just giving a fair
:26:24. > :26:27.trial. I don't want to give too much away, and it is strange to see
:26:28. > :26:32.that, watching those guys doing this, but it is a story about a man
:26:33. > :26:37.who takes an unpopular caisson, defending a Russian spy, and he will
:26:38. > :26:41.not even though he totally disagrees in everything he stands for and
:26:42. > :26:46.believes, he won't stop defending him. He just pushes it from New York
:26:47. > :26:53.to the Supreme Court and eventually to the Berlin Wall. He gets tasked
:26:54. > :26:58.by the CIA to negotiate a spy swap for the Russian he defended for Gary
:26:59. > :27:03.Powers, who was shot down. He was a man who you could live next door to,
:27:04. > :27:08.which is why Tom Hanks is so great. He takes our hand and takes us
:27:09. > :27:11.through the story. You said it gives you goose bumps hearing those
:27:12. > :27:16.brilliant actors speaking your script. Listen to this, the first
:27:17. > :27:24.time Stephen Spielberg rang you, is it right that you were in pants? On
:27:25. > :27:30.purpose? I was. Waiting for the call! I got very hot and bothered
:27:31. > :27:34.because I had posters of his wall since I was a kid. I knew he was
:27:35. > :27:39.going to call because I was told he was going to ring. Suddenly, I got
:27:40. > :27:43.really hot and bothered so I took off my shirt then I thought, I'm
:27:44. > :27:49.still hot, so you end up in your boxers and your T-shirt. Why not! My
:27:50. > :27:54.wife stuck her head in and said, I'll leave you to it! How did that
:27:55. > :27:59.conversation go? It was amazing but it was strange it was these
:28:00. > :28:02.conference calls with the state and with Hollywood, I was talking to
:28:03. > :28:06.Stephen Spielberg and there were four or five other people on the
:28:07. > :28:10.line and, halfway through, there was silence and I thought, maybe he's
:28:11. > :28:15.hung up, maybe he's bored. I said, can I check you are still there,
:28:16. > :28:21.Stephen? He said, I'm rapt, I love it. I got to the end, and he said,
:28:22. > :28:30.when can I write this? Who is your hero? I have many heroes, Mandela.
:28:31. > :28:35.In the movie business or in general? Have you ever had a moment where you
:28:36. > :28:39.think, the moment I have admired for all these years is actually in front
:28:40. > :28:44.of me? Know but, as a matter of fact, one of my heroes was Michael
:28:45. > :28:50.Jackson, and I had tickets to go and see him at the O2 arena before he
:28:51. > :28:58.passed away. That was a moment I was looking forward to, but he died.
:28:59. > :29:05.Carlos is basically people's Stephen Spielberg anyway. He is Matt's
:29:06. > :29:09.Stephen Spielberg! Congratulations and I'm sure everybody who goes to
:29:10. > :29:15.see it will love it. That's all we got time for. Thank you to Carlos
:29:16. > :29:22.Acosta, whose farewell tour begins next month. And farewell to Matt,
:29:23. > :29:24.Bridge of Spies is in cinemas a week today. I will be back tomorrow with
:29:25. > :29:27.Russell Howard. See you then.