:00:18. > :00:22.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker And Alex Jones, now
:00:23. > :00:26.we always get the best guests here on The One Show but tonight we've
:00:27. > :00:28.not one but two very special guests. The Cal ber of the guests we have
:00:29. > :00:32.had has been wonderful. But tonight we have not one, but two very
:00:33. > :00:39.special women. I think special is an understatement. Because we are now
:00:40. > :00:45.going live to none other than her Majesty the Queen herself! Good
:00:46. > :00:50.evening ma'am. How are you? Hello, am I on air. Please stop playing
:00:51. > :00:56.that music, I hate it. Listen, thank you for joining us and making
:00:57. > :01:00.yourself available. It must have been a busy afternoon, taking tea
:01:01. > :01:12.with the German Chancellor, did you have a pleasant time? It was
:01:13. > :01:18.delightful. We had battenburg cake and Philip likes a Bakewell tart.
:01:19. > :01:26.Would you not mind, we are going to introduce our main guest. How dare
:01:27. > :01:38.you? You will be back later. Who do I talk to? She is still going. More
:01:39. > :01:47.from her Majesty later. Now tonight oes 's other guest. She is regarded
:01:48. > :01:58.as royal ty in the world of dance he is a true English rose. It is Darcey
:01:59. > :02:05.Bussel. Come on in. Lovely to see you. Make yourself comfortable. I
:02:06. > :02:12.love your hair. That is very kind. You have had a trim. We have been
:02:13. > :02:21.talking with the Queen. You have met the Queen haven't you? I have. I
:02:22. > :02:27.wouldn't say ballet is her favourite thing. Did she say that to you? She
:02:28. > :02:31.has. That is very blunt. I admire her for being honest. Was that
:02:32. > :02:36.before or after the performance? After the performance. But she said
:02:37. > :02:41.it was an amazing evening. But said that definitely enough ballet in one
:02:42. > :02:49.evening for a whole year! Wait until she sees the documentary that we
:02:50. > :02:58.will with be talk about. One of Scotland's senior polices said
:02:59. > :03:07.placing mobile speed cameras is like shooting fishes in a barrel. We have
:03:08. > :03:14.taken the One Show megaphone out in Glasgow. Are speed cameras a good or
:03:15. > :03:17.bad thing. A good thing. Because outside schools and nurseries, it
:03:18. > :03:24.helps to slow down in traffic for kids. Do you think they're a money
:03:25. > :03:31.making racket or vital. A safety thing and specially around schools.
:03:32. > :03:38.Sometimes, but general driving, there is no need for them. They're a
:03:39. > :03:44.joke. They're sneaky with them and they're unsuspecting. They should be
:03:45. > :03:50.advertised more on where they are. Do they make money? Yes. Why?
:03:51. > :03:56.Because we choose to speed. If we don't want them to make money -
:03:57. > :04:03.don't break the limit. If you don't speed, they don't make money. If it
:04:04. > :04:08.is 3am, what is your problem? Come on! Really? The amount I pay for
:04:09. > :04:15.insurance and road tax and there is still a million and one potholes, it
:04:16. > :04:22.is a joke. You're up and down bouncing with the potholes. Where is
:04:23. > :04:28.this money going? What do you think? Yes I agree. The 2014 games coming
:04:29. > :04:32.up, they're looking for a way to raise more money and to get as much
:04:33. > :04:36.from us, the drivers, as possible. The council take the money and
:04:37. > :04:40.they're having it in their nice wee benefit things that they have and
:04:41. > :04:47.their wee dinners and that and it is nothing do with us. I don't get a
:04:48. > :04:51.single penny back and I pay a fortune. They get your road tax and
:04:52. > :04:58.the camera and the wardens. You can't win. They make the road safer
:04:59. > :05:07.and more pleasant to be on. Money making, useless, not for me. That is
:05:08. > :05:15.my opinion. Thanks. They're a chatty bunch. They slow you down don't you
:05:16. > :05:20.find? Yes. Do they only show you down at that point? If I'm driving
:05:21. > :05:26.with me dad, son, there there is a speed camera, slow down. You're
:05:27. > :05:31.kicking off a whole season on the BBC about ballet. Yes. You're
:05:32. > :05:37.starting it with a documentary based on Ba Rees thats. -- ballerinas. Yes
:05:38. > :05:47.on Sunday night. The angle of the documentary. It is about my Male her
:05:48. > :05:52.row -- about my ballet heroines from the French corporates up to the
:05:53. > :05:58.today. -- courts up to today. It has been great. We have got to go to
:05:59. > :06:04.Russia and see how famous they made their ballerinas. They made ballet
:06:05. > :06:11.something else. Than it was here. Even in France, it is 300 years old
:06:12. > :06:19.ballet and it is incredible how it has lasted. Who have you picked out
:06:20. > :06:27.as your favourites? We go to person, people like Anna Pavlova and another
:06:28. > :06:32.rush called Galina Ulanova, who was with the Bolshoi and came to England
:06:33. > :06:38.when she was 42 and did Romeo and Juliet and the public went bonkers
:06:39. > :06:45.about her. And there was Margot Fonteyn. And there was an amazing
:06:46. > :06:51.American dancer called Suzanne Farrell. There is Margot. You say
:06:52. > :06:56.you love watching her. Why? She wasn't just a good dancer, she knew
:06:57. > :07:00.how to sell it and her skills and what she learned to attract the
:07:01. > :07:06.audience to actually not take their eyes off her. She had that ability.
:07:07. > :07:10.She lit up as soon as she came on stage. If we are watching the
:07:11. > :07:17.season, we will watch a lot of ballet, what do you look for? You
:07:18. > :07:22.know, the technique of dance is one of the hardest things in any style
:07:23. > :07:28.of dance. It is one of the hard toast learn. You have -- hardest to
:07:29. > :07:31.learn. You have an amazing amount of brilliant technicians. And it goes
:07:32. > :07:36.down to the personality and the characters on stage. You be a
:07:37. > :07:40.brilliant dancer, but have no magic. It is down to their personality and
:07:41. > :07:45.how they sell it. I was looking for those dancers. That had something
:07:46. > :07:52.different. They were probably scandalous. Very powerful. They knew
:07:53. > :07:57.how to get their director sacked. So there were controversial things. A
:07:58. > :08:03.lot of people's experience of ballet will be dancing as a child or
:08:04. > :08:10.watching Black Swan. But it is about the rivalry between the prima
:08:11. > :08:16.ballerinas. Does that exist? Yes. It is not as strong now as it was. To
:08:17. > :08:21.get to that position was a fight. Where there are many companies now
:08:22. > :08:27.we're spoiled and the ability to be a principal is there. But to stay
:08:28. > :08:33.there is hard. And that is when the rivalry gets going. Has anybody used
:08:34. > :08:41.any naughty tricks? People like to psyche you out before a show. Has it
:08:42. > :08:45.happened to you zm Yes. But it keeps you on your toes. Because it is
:08:46. > :08:51.great competition and you need that. What happened with the psyche out? I
:08:52. > :08:56.won out of it luckily. For those out there that are coming from ballet
:08:57. > :09:01.tonight, when did it become mainstream, the French courts and
:09:02. > :09:05.the Russians. It was about the aristocracy. The Russians were able,
:09:06. > :09:10.everyone in Russian society was able to see it. It was not just for the
:09:11. > :09:15.wealthy that went to the opera. The peasants went to opera houses and
:09:16. > :09:20.that is when ballet became so popular with the masses and soon as
:09:21. > :09:24.it travelled the world with somebody like Anna Pavlova, she did 4,000
:09:25. > :09:30.performances around the world and took her own company and went
:09:31. > :09:36.anywhere like Peru and Mexico. For that time it was extraordinary. So
:09:37. > :09:40.she was their first superstar. There we are. We have interrupted the
:09:41. > :09:52.queen and now we have to interrupt you. You can catch her ballerina's
:09:53. > :09:56.on Sunday. And hello to Audrey and Toms who hopefully are watching us.
:09:57. > :10:01.- Audrey and Thomas. They have been through a hard time and our thoughts
:10:02. > :10:07.are with them. Lucy takes up the story. Audrey Cripps' husband is in
:10:08. > :10:11.hospital after a fall. He has been diagnosed with dementia and now
:10:12. > :10:17.needs to go into a home. It is down to her to find him the right one.
:10:18. > :10:26.Audrey needs to hurry up, Thomas will be give Andis charge date -- be
:10:27. > :10:30.given a discharge date from hospital. Then the hospital has a
:10:31. > :10:36.right to find one for her. They need the beds, you see. Audrey is being
:10:37. > :10:40.supported by Hannah Fletcher from the charity Blackburn Carers. Once
:10:41. > :10:45.it is established that the patient is requiring 24 hour care it is a
:10:46. > :10:51.short window of time. That we have got to find that care home. Tell me
:10:52. > :10:55.about Thomas and how long have you been married? 67 years. It was a
:10:56. > :11:07.terrible shock. How he has changed. I never ever thought this would
:11:08. > :11:14.happen. Never. It must seem like a nightmare at the moment? I'll
:11:15. > :11:17.manage. I have to. Thomas's hospital said it has never had to exercise
:11:18. > :11:21.the power to force patients into a home against their will. But it does
:11:22. > :11:25.encourage them to vacate beds quickly and it does provide a list
:11:26. > :11:32.of care homes with vacancies if needed. The local council gave
:11:33. > :11:37.Audrey a list of homes, around 150 in total. This is the and the
:11:38. > :11:44.standard list. Could Audrey choose any of them? No. To start with some
:11:45. > :11:48.care homes won't take people with dementia. If I was on me own, I
:11:49. > :11:53.wouldn't know where to start. Thomas' place will be funded by the
:11:54. > :11:59.local authority. That is ?312 a week. Some homes have the option of
:12:00. > :12:04.paying a top up fee of up to ?120 a week to buy a better standard of
:12:05. > :12:09.care, a bigger room, or a view. It is something she can't afford. This
:12:10. > :12:15.leaves only five possible options. Hannah must check which one has a
:12:16. > :12:20.bed. I'm wondering if you have any vacancies. All right thank you.
:12:21. > :12:27.Bye-bye. There is no vacancies at that one. So that is a no. Try that
:12:28. > :12:34.one. The King Edward. I could get a bus up to the top and walk down. Hi
:12:35. > :12:45.can you tell me if you have any vacancies. Right OK. All right then
:12:46. > :12:51.thank you. No. We are looking for as soon as possible. It is OK to come
:12:52. > :12:54.this afternoon? Thank you. It is Audrey Cripps. There are only two
:12:55. > :13:01.care homes with one free bed each. We need to go and see them as soon
:13:02. > :13:08.as possible. We go in the homes, if you think about what Tom would like,
:13:09. > :13:11.you know whether he would like act ctivities and whether the food they
:13:12. > :13:20.have got on the menu is something that Tom would like to eat. Do you
:13:21. > :13:28.feel anxious? Yes, I feel anxious. I'm hoping that he can get fitted
:13:29. > :13:36.into somewhere. We have never been with... Anywhere without one
:13:37. > :13:41.another. This one. It is quite a nice room. There is the toilet and
:13:42. > :13:47.that. Have you got many men in here? We have a few. That was so he has
:13:48. > :13:57.got somebody to talk to. What do you think? I don't know until I see the
:13:58. > :14:06.other one. Fingers crossed. They're having a party. Nice isn't it? This
:14:07. > :14:10.is nice. He has his own toilet. And a sea view. Yeah. What do you think?
:14:11. > :14:16.It is lovely. What do you like about it? I like it all. You could go away
:14:17. > :14:22.and think about it or you could take the room now, because... No, I would
:14:23. > :14:28.like him to come in here. Do you feel a sense of relief. I feel
:14:29. > :14:34.better that I know he has somewhere to go. Each year 130,000 elderly
:14:35. > :14:39.people move into care homes. More than half of them like Thomas will
:14:40. > :14:43.go directly from a hospital bed. Audrey has been lucky in having
:14:44. > :14:49.Hannah to support her through what has been a daunting process. But
:14:50. > :14:55.many other people go through this entirely alone. We have to say thank
:14:56. > :14:59.you to Audrey. She is going through a difficult time and to invite us to
:15:00. > :15:05.help others who may be experiencing what she is. But we have heard from
:15:06. > :15:11.Audrey and that Thomas is settling in. What was comforting is at the
:15:12. > :15:23.end that she had Hannah to guide her and to help her but that is not
:15:24. > :15:26.always the case. We have said many times, we wish we could clone
:15:27. > :15:31.Hannah. There is no service like that. No umbrella organisation that
:15:32. > :15:36.does that all over the country, but there are charities who do, who have
:15:37. > :15:42.Hannahs, if you like. It is a shame that there are not more of them. It
:15:43. > :15:47.is such a valuable service. The funding is a huge issue for
:15:48. > :15:54.anybody looking into this. Thomas' care is paid for, who is entitled to
:15:55. > :15:58.it? The first threshold is above ?14,000. If you vo assets and
:15:59. > :16:03.capital below this, the local authority will found your social
:16:04. > :16:09.care opposed to you nursing care. Above that, we go to over ?23,000.
:16:10. > :16:14.Between that, you get some help from your local authority. There are some
:16:15. > :16:18.instances where the local authority will let you defer payments for 12
:16:19. > :16:23.weeks, or until you have sold your home.
:16:24. > :16:28.And if you have assets to pay it back. Above that ?23,000,
:16:29. > :16:37.financially, you are on your own. That is the bracket that most people
:16:38. > :16:40.fall into. Thank you, Lucy. And once again, our thoughts with Audrey and
:16:41. > :16:44.Thomas. Here is Marty with a story of a
:16:45. > :16:50.rivalry that played out at Wembley Stadium but had nothing to do with
:16:51. > :16:56.the beautiful game. Anglo-French rivalry has spanned
:16:57. > :17:00.centuries. From the fields of the France to Waterloo, we have always
:17:01. > :17:06.sought to get one up on the neighbours across the Channel. So
:17:07. > :17:10.when the Eiffel Tower was finished in 1889, one grishman decided
:17:11. > :17:16.anything that the French could do, we could do better. Within a month
:17:17. > :17:21.of the Eiffel Tower's completion, Sir Edward Watkin launched a
:17:22. > :17:24.competition to design our version. The great tower for London.
:17:25. > :17:30.Something to surpass the Eiffel Tower. So the only fixed requirement
:17:31. > :17:33.of the competition, was that our version should be at least 46 metres
:17:34. > :17:38.taller. Watkin was an entrepreneur and
:17:39. > :17:43.visionry. He had expanded the London Underground in the 19th century and
:17:44. > :17:49.then wanted the network to stretch to the is suburbs. He bought land in
:17:50. > :17:57.Wembley. With plans for a park and a mighty tower, as its centre piece.
:17:58. > :18:02.He approached Gustav Eiffel himself to design the tower but he declined,
:18:03. > :18:07.saying that the French would not think him so good a Frenchman as he
:18:08. > :18:12.hoped he was. So, Watkin opened the competition to
:18:13. > :18:18.the public. Offering a prize of 500 Guinness, almost ?200,000 in today's
:18:19. > :18:23.money. It attracted 68entries from over the globe and the designs were
:18:24. > :18:28.diverse to say the least, including a tower that dropped people in par
:18:29. > :18:34.chutes. A tower resomebling a bolt. And a tower with a railway ray round
:18:35. > :18:39.the outside, but the design to rival the Eiffel Tower, to give the UK its
:18:40. > :18:45.individual tower was this. You may think it a cope of the French but it
:18:46. > :18:51.is different. It was 36 5 metres tall. Almost 60 metres taller than
:18:52. > :18:55.the Shahhed. And double the number of legs of the Eiffel Tower.
:18:56. > :19:02.I met a local historian. What was the aim here? The grand
:19:03. > :19:08.plan? This was to have the best landscaped private grounds that you
:19:09. > :19:13.could have. The recreation amounted to walks in
:19:14. > :19:19.the bushes and the shrubs. The lakes and all sorts of retail activities.
:19:20. > :19:25.The foundations were laid in 1892. Four years later, the first level,
:19:26. > :19:31.46 metres up, was open to the public, but as the money ran short,
:19:32. > :19:34.Watkin made a cost-cutting decision, sanctioning the number of legs from
:19:35. > :19:42.eight to four. The pressure loaded on to the four legs, caused the
:19:43. > :19:49.tower to subside as it sank. Sir Edward Watkin died in 1901. And with
:19:50. > :19:54.him the dream tower. It was reduced to scrap. The London suburbs took
:19:55. > :19:58.over the site, but there is a patch of grassland remaining, where
:19:59. > :20:02.Britain's rival to the Eiffel Tower once stood, here at Wembley Stadium,
:20:03. > :20:07.where many a dream has fallen to pieces too. For a day only, on a
:20:08. > :20:14.rather smaller scale, we are building our own great tower for
:20:15. > :20:18.London. Brian Cahill and engineers from the University College of
:20:19. > :20:24.London are here to help. He looked at the original designs and has gone
:20:25. > :20:27.for a sturdy 12-leg base. And going for an interesting building
:20:28. > :20:31.material. We are using bamboo.
:20:32. > :20:36.That is quicker. Yes. Then we tie it with duct tape.
:20:37. > :20:41.Not available then. And also twine and string. What we are going to do
:20:42. > :20:46.is lift it using ropes. You are going to pull the whole
:20:47. > :20:50.thing up? Absolutely. We better get on.
:20:51. > :20:58.Absolutely. It is when you hear things like it
:20:59. > :21:04.is a bit wobbly, you worry slightly! Keep going. Pull it up, guys. Pull
:21:05. > :21:09.away. Pull. Keep your feet there. That's it. Go. Gently.
:21:10. > :21:15.Gently. Finally, a tower is constructed on
:21:16. > :21:19.the very same site as Watkins'. This one has enough legs to stay up.
:21:20. > :21:24.Good job. Now, one certain TV show that has an
:21:25. > :21:29.association with the tower is Strictly. And Blackpool Tower. So,
:21:30. > :21:34.Darcey, again, the question, are you judging this year? I hope so.
:21:35. > :21:37.When are you expecting the call? March, I think it is.
:21:38. > :21:42.OK. It would be lovely, but I don't know
:21:43. > :21:45.yet. I don't think that anyone knows yet.
:21:46. > :21:52.Do the panel know before the dancers? No.
:21:53. > :21:55.I have no idea! I have only done it twice.
:21:56. > :22:00.Well you are a breath of fresh air, according to an e-mail coming in.
:22:01. > :22:06.So, litter picking. 1,000 lines or a week of lunch time standing outside
:22:07. > :22:14.of the staff room. Punishments for anyone caught copying at school.
:22:15. > :22:18.But, the risks associated with passing off other people's work in
:22:19. > :22:25.adult life are greater, as Gyles found out in the last of his films
:22:26. > :22:31.on plagiarism. Ten years ago turn on your telly and
:22:32. > :22:37.a day time show, you were likely to see Dr Raj Persad.
:22:38. > :22:43.You are concerned, he is someone with a short fuse when driving and
:22:44. > :22:49.he could lose his temper with someone who could talliate. But the
:22:50. > :22:53.career came to a halt in June of 2008.
:22:54. > :22:58.The broadcaster admit admitted plagiarising other people's work.
:22:59. > :23:04.He was found guilty of conduct, that was misleading, inprofrite --
:23:05. > :23:10.inappropriate, and lible to bring his profession into disrepute. The
:23:11. > :23:15.indiscretion, being a copy cat. He wrote books and articles, heavily
:23:16. > :23:21.based on others, without giving them the credit. There is a term for the
:23:22. > :23:30.actions, it is academic plagiarism, but what is it? Academic plagiarism
:23:31. > :23:35.is if you present a work of someone else as your own.
:23:36. > :23:38.Is it a crime? No, it is not. It is basically something a disciplinary
:23:39. > :23:43.matter. Obviously it is something not to do. Someone has put a lot of
:23:44. > :23:49.effort into producing work and then someone else is trying to have a
:23:50. > :23:55.freeride on that effort. Of course, academics use other
:23:56. > :23:58.people's work all of the time, but unlike journalists and secret
:23:59. > :24:02.agents, they have to reveal their sources. There are rules for how to
:24:03. > :24:07.use the sources. They are straightforward. If you have reduced
:24:08. > :24:13.a quote, it should be clearly identifiable as such. Put it in
:24:14. > :24:18.quotations marks or type set it so it is obvious. Or referring to the
:24:19. > :24:25.work of others, site the source in your text or in foot notes.
:24:26. > :24:33.That is exactly what Raj Persad did not do in this book from The Edge of
:24:34. > :24:38.the Couch. A science journalist exposed him
:24:39. > :24:43.with a devastating article in the Sunday Timeses.
:24:44. > :24:50.How were your suspicions aroused? It start -- it started in 2005, an
:24:51. > :24:56.article was retracted over the issue of plagiarism. I thought if it was
:24:57. > :24:58.there, it could be elsewhere. So I pulled a popular book and checked
:24:59. > :25:04.it. So, there, associations between
:25:05. > :25:09.madness and creative genius... I typed that into Google Scholar. Up
:25:10. > :25:14.comes the phrase. And here is the paper and we find... The same
:25:15. > :25:20.phrase. What did you do with the duplications? I contacted the
:25:21. > :25:25.authors of the paper, a professor Richard Bentall and faxed him over
:25:26. > :25:31.the excerpts of the book and the paper and asked what he made of it.
:25:32. > :25:36.What did he make of it? He was not pleased.
:25:37. > :25:42.The professor was astonished by how blatant the copying was.
:25:43. > :25:46.Why is this issue important? Honesty is essential to the academic work.
:25:47. > :25:52.If you cannot trust what a scientist says or does, then the fabric of
:25:53. > :25:56.science is undermined. He had copied others too. So the
:25:57. > :26:03.General Medical Council decided it was serious enough to take action
:26:04. > :26:08.against Mr Persad. He admitted plagiarism and that the conduct had
:26:09. > :26:15.been misleading and inappropriate, but denied deliberate dishonesty and
:26:16. > :26:19.bringing his profession into disrepute, but he was found guilty
:26:20. > :26:24.of charges and suspended for three months. The case dealt a fatal blow
:26:25. > :26:28.to his career. We asked him to take part in our
:26:29. > :26:35.film but he declined. Plagiarism it is easy to do but
:26:36. > :26:39.thanks to sophisticate sophisticated computer programmes it is easier
:26:40. > :26:43.than ever to get caught. Oh, yes, the copy cats are out of the bag.
:26:44. > :26:50.Yes, they are. So, let's go back live to London's
:26:51. > :26:56.South Bank, where Her Majesty the Queen is waiting for us.
:26:57. > :27:01.Your Majesty! We have caught you unaway.
:27:02. > :27:06.So sorry! Terrible sorry. I just wanted to say to Darcey Bussell, it
:27:07. > :27:14.is true I am not a huge fan of ballet but I did like Matthew
:27:15. > :27:24.Bourne's Swan Lake, if you know what I mean? ! OK! Just explain, ma'am,
:27:25. > :27:30.why you are at the British Film Institue this evening? I am at the
:27:31. > :27:35.BFI South Bank to celebrate 30 years of Spitting Image. Now, that may
:27:36. > :27:40.seem a lot unless you have been on the Throne as long as I have. In
:27:41. > :27:47.which case, frankly, it is rubbish. Are you there, then, with other
:27:48. > :27:53.famous faces from 30 years ago? You know, everyone looks so old, I can't
:27:54. > :28:00.recognise any of them! So, what happened to Spitting Image? We know
:28:01. > :28:07.it finished in 1996 but why? It was so popular? Yes, I stopped it.
:28:08. > :28:16.Well, listen, ma'am, is it possible to speak to your Lady In Waiting?
:28:17. > :28:25.Wait, I have to get in my plug! I'm appearing at the Cartoon Museum in
:28:26. > :28:30.Little Russell Street. Very good. Louise, are you there.
:28:31. > :28:34.Tell us what it is like to have been a part of the original cast 30 years
:28:35. > :28:40.ago? It was amazing. We did not know what it would be. It was all scary.
:28:41. > :28:47.It was done at the last minute. It was very, very, I was going to say
:28:48. > :28:51.something that I m not allowed to say on TV, but it was scary getting
:28:52. > :28:55.it together. Well, it has been lovely to talk to
:28:56. > :28:59.you. Thank you so much Your Majesty,
:29:00. > :29:03.thanks also to Darcey. That's all for this evening but I'm back
:29:04. > :29:05.tomorrow night with Chris when we're joined by Evan Davis so I'll see