:00:16. > :00:21.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.
:00:21. > :00:25.Tonight's guest found his Dorothy. He also found his Nancy, his Joseph
:00:25. > :00:27.and his Maria. Please welcome the man who's now searching for Jesus.
:00:27. > :00:35.It's Andrew Lloyd Webber. APPLAUSE
:00:35. > :00:40.Good to see you. Nice to see you. The latest project
:00:41. > :00:46.is searching for Jesus Christ Superstar, when these shows are on,
:00:46. > :00:50.your Catchphrase is usually "You can be Nancy or Maria." But it
:00:51. > :00:56.could be inappropriate to say "You could be Jesus. It could be. The
:00:56. > :01:00.twist for this one is that it's not for the theatre, it's for a rock
:01:00. > :01:03.arena tour. We're looking for somebody who can be a great rock
:01:03. > :01:07.tenor with fantastic charisma of course. It's a slightly different
:01:07. > :01:13.show, in many ways. What I really want is for it to be completely
:01:13. > :01:15.live on television. I think it would be fantastic to do away with
:01:16. > :01:20.pre-recorded tracks. In my real dream is to have a fantastic rock
:01:20. > :01:25.band on the show, which would be great. Indeed. They have to learn
:01:25. > :01:29.so many songs. With these reality shows what people don't realise, is
:01:29. > :01:33.that everybody has to know so much, because, and we're sort of really
:01:33. > :01:38.going to go for it and make them really perform. You've said the
:01:38. > :01:41.public always pick the right person. They have done so far. It's pretty
:01:41. > :01:45.extraordinary. Of the shows, four of the girls are starring in the
:01:45. > :01:53.West End at the moment in shows, three of them I have nothing to do
:01:53. > :01:57.with, one, of course, is the lead in, well well, Les Mis movie. It's
:01:57. > :02:02.extraordinary. There's so much going on at the moment. You don't
:02:02. > :02:06.know what on earth you're talking about. One of the things we are
:02:06. > :02:12.going to discuss is Love Never Dies, which we will go onto in a little
:02:12. > :02:14.while. First when you hear the term "whiplash" what does it mean to you,
:02:14. > :02:18.a serious neck injury or compensation?
:02:18. > :02:24.Have you had a road accident that wasn't your fault? You could be
:02:24. > :02:30.eligible for compensation. 1500 people every day put in
:02:30. > :02:34.compensation claims for whiplash. 1500 people a day?! What that does
:02:34. > :02:42.is add approximately �90 onto your and my insurance premiums every
:02:42. > :02:46.year. They've dubbed the UK the whiplash capital of Europe.
:02:46. > :02:53.Whiplash is a term to describe a neck injury caused by a sudden
:02:53. > :02:59.movement of the head where the ten dons and ligaments are damaged. In
:02:59. > :03:02.severe case it's can cause chronic pain and persistent headaches.
:03:02. > :03:07.Injury claims for whiplash are up by a third in the last three years,
:03:07. > :03:13.insurers say the average payout for a personal injury claim is �4,500.
:03:13. > :03:16.But accident rates are falling overall and experts agree something
:03:16. > :03:20.is wrong. Accident rates are going down. Seats are getting much better.
:03:20. > :03:24.It's not engineering. It's not road use. There's something wrong with
:03:25. > :03:27.the system. According it a recent survey, doctors have seen a sharp
:03:28. > :03:32.rise in patients attempting to make fraudulent claims for car accident
:03:32. > :03:37.injuries. In the world of whiplash, it's not just the dumbies that
:03:37. > :03:41.aren't real, but there are rumblings, the tide's turning. Lee
:03:41. > :03:46.Robinson had a claim for whiplash brought against him, after he
:03:46. > :03:49.reversed into a car at a set of traffic lights. As I reversed
:03:49. > :03:55.backwards I slightly hit a taxi behind me. It was like a nudge, a
:03:55. > :04:01.kiss on the bumper. Got out, we exchanged details and then early
:04:01. > :04:07.2011, I got a letter from a solicitor saying the guy had put a
:04:07. > :04:10.claim in for �900 car damages, personal injury and was suing us
:04:10. > :04:18.for whiplash. What they didn't know was that Lee is a bit of an expert
:04:19. > :04:25.on the subject. Morning. We'll sit you up and go through the usual. My
:04:25. > :04:30.job as a physiotherapist, I treat whiplash every day of my life. None
:04:30. > :04:35.of his symptoms added up to what I think would have resulted from the
:04:35. > :04:39.impact. In his practice Lee sees people suffering serious whiplash.
:04:39. > :04:45.It caused me to have time off work. It's more the pain, the not
:04:45. > :04:48.sleeping, the turning over in bed and the headaches, that type of
:04:48. > :04:52.thing, impacts your daily life rather than just your job.
:04:52. > :04:56.Unusually for whiplash claims, Lee's case went to court and he won.
:04:56. > :05:01.Lee believe it's will pave the way for others to challenge these cases.
:05:01. > :05:04.And there are further plans to prevent fraudulent claims in the UK.
:05:04. > :05:08.In some other countries, if you're travelling at less than 10
:05:08. > :05:15.kilometres an hour, your claim for whiplash compensation doesn't even
:05:15. > :05:21.get looked at. But in the UK, it's a slightly different story. You
:05:21. > :05:24.could put a claim in for that. Experts disagree about whether
:05:24. > :05:28.whiplash injuries can be sustained at low speeds. The insurance
:05:28. > :05:32.industry are seeking change. want to look at some of the things
:05:32. > :05:35.they use in Europe, like Austria and Germany, where you have a
:05:35. > :05:39.minimum speed at which a whiplash claim can be made. I think what
:05:39. > :05:43.we're seeing is a system that makes it too easy for people to claim for
:05:43. > :05:47.whiplash. The Government is so concerned about rising car
:05:47. > :05:52.insurance premiums, they've met with industry representatives,
:05:52. > :05:54.discussing whiplash at length. Preferred options on how to cut the
:05:54. > :05:59.number of fraudulent claims will be presentsed to the Transport
:05:59. > :06:02.Secretary in the spring. If the measures yield results, the
:06:02. > :06:06.industry and the Government say any savings will be passed onto the
:06:06. > :06:10.consumer, resulting in lower car insurance premiums for all of us.
:06:10. > :06:16.So, is this the end of whacking in a great big claim for every tiny
:06:16. > :06:20.bump? Could this be the whiplash backlash?
:06:20. > :06:27.Andrew, your eyes rolled when we went into that film. You know about
:06:27. > :06:30.this. In my profession, you know what the no win, no fee culture has
:06:30. > :06:36.led to in America. I was mildly appalled when it was introduced
:06:36. > :06:41.here. It is so open to abuse. To see lawyers advertising, saying if
:06:41. > :06:45.you have had a minor accident at work or something, it gets crazy.
:06:45. > :06:49.Obviously, the idea of legal aid for people who need it is complete
:06:49. > :06:53.lay different. It's a very important thing. The whole no win,
:06:53. > :06:58.no fee situation is out of hand. is. Going onto your DVD, Love Never
:06:58. > :07:02.Dies is out never month. This is based ten years after Phantom of
:07:02. > :07:07.the op ra. The story carries on, though it's very self-contained.
:07:07. > :07:10.Could you give us a synopsis of the story. The whole thing is a
:07:10. > :07:14.curiosity to be honest. I don't think it's been done before. This
:07:14. > :07:18.is the Australian production, not the London production of Love Never
:07:18. > :07:22.Dies, which quite frankly, the Australians trounced me and my
:07:22. > :07:25.London production. They did a superb one, completely on their own.
:07:25. > :07:31.People said look, it's so extraordinary and mile as way, it
:07:31. > :07:35.should be filmed. That's exactly what happened to it. It's very,
:07:36. > :07:40.very intriguing. It is Set ten years later. The Australians kind
:07:40. > :07:44.of got it. In London, we didn't quite get it. I don't know why or
:07:44. > :07:48.how. It's a funny thing with musicals. Just one little thing
:07:48. > :07:52.goes off the rails and the whole thing is derailed, no matter how
:07:52. > :07:56.good it is. These guyles got it right. It lasted what, 18 months in
:07:56. > :07:59.the West End? It was a huge disappointment. But I think
:07:59. > :08:02.probably the whole thing should have been postponed. But then the
:08:02. > :08:12.Australians came in, completely fresh eyes and ears and I think
:08:12. > :08:28.
:08:28. > :08:33.they got it right. They did nail it. MUSIC
:08:33. > :08:37.APPLAUSE And it's still going strong that
:08:38. > :08:41.production. That was in Mel burn, now it's in Sydney. Yes,
:08:41. > :08:46.intriguingly for me, it's been shown tonight and it's the first
:08:46. > :08:52.time with a musical that's a new one, in 550 cinemas tonight in
:08:52. > :08:57.America. I am intrigued to see what happens. If it works, even if
:08:57. > :09:01.people don't like my show, what I'm intrigued about, this skill set the
:09:01. > :09:10.people who filmed this have done, I don't think it existed three years
:09:10. > :09:14.ago. It has come out of the live asylum ul casts of the opera and --
:09:14. > :09:18.symalcasts out of the opera. It's amazing. I have never seen it
:09:18. > :09:21.before. I'm very excited because I think it means a lot of
:09:21. > :09:27.performances that we would have loved to have seen, or would love
:09:27. > :09:31.to keep now, coming up, will be filmed in this way. As we spoke
:09:31. > :09:35.about earlier, you're taking Jesus Christ Superstar to the O2, to a
:09:35. > :09:39.big arena. And big arenas around the country. How are the logistics
:09:39. > :09:43.different. It's a much bigger space? Will you lose the intimacy
:09:43. > :09:48.from the theatre? Obviously you do. Clearly it's not the same
:09:48. > :09:53.experience at all. But it's been conceived as a rock concert through
:09:53. > :09:58.and through. Therefore, it's on a very big scale. It will use video
:09:58. > :10:01.screens greatly. I want it to look very rough. I'd like to, I'd like
:10:01. > :10:05.it to have something of the news reels that we're seeing from the
:10:05. > :10:09.Middle East right now, something about that and give it quite a
:10:09. > :10:13.contemporary edge. You're not going for huge rock stars, you're doing a
:10:13. > :10:16.talent search, the classic way. We're looking for somebody to play
:10:16. > :10:21.the role of Jesus. I'm not ruling out anybody at the moment. Quite a
:10:21. > :10:24.lot of people want to play it. It will go on from Britain and it will
:10:24. > :10:28.obviously play Europe, Australia, but the real excitement will be
:10:28. > :10:32.when it goes to America, because in America, the show's thought of as a
:10:32. > :10:36.rock album. It's not really thought of like we think of it here as a
:10:36. > :10:40.musical. There they think of it as the rock album it was. Have you got
:10:40. > :10:46.American rock stars queuing up? There are one or two. I have to
:10:46. > :10:50.make sure that they can act it as well. Going back to the original
:10:50. > :10:55.album in 1970, 42 years ago, would you believe, we were blessed with a
:10:55. > :10:59.fantastic cast who could really do it. The other big character in that
:10:59. > :11:03.musical is Mary Magdalene. Do you have an idea who might play that
:11:03. > :11:07.character? I have some thoughts. Mary is an easy role relatively to
:11:07. > :11:16.cast. She only has three songs. Two of them happen to be the big hit
:11:16. > :11:20.ones. But the role of Judas is a huge one. That's a big, both are
:11:20. > :11:26.big rock scenes. It will be interesting to see who the cast are
:11:26. > :11:30.finally. Love Never Dies is out on Monday, March 12. Last week a
:11:30. > :11:34.doctor from London became possibly the oldest expert to give evidence
:11:34. > :11:42.in court. That doctor was William Frankland, still working at the
:11:42. > :11:46.grand old age of 99. ARCHIVE: Do you suffer from hay
:11:46. > :11:50.fever or asthma? These are allergies. We may think of
:11:50. > :11:55.allergies sz a modern day phenomenon, but doctors have been
:11:55. > :11:59.trying for decades to discover the various causes. In 1912 a pioneer
:11:59. > :12:06.was born, a man who would dedicate his life to treating allergies of
:12:06. > :12:11.all kinds. He worked here at St Mary's. William Frankland, now aged
:12:11. > :12:19.99, has been leading the charge since his early days at St Mary's
:12:19. > :12:24.Hospital London, work ago longside Sir Alexander Flemming, the man who
:12:24. > :12:27.discovered penicillin. Amazingly William Frankland is still
:12:27. > :12:31.practising. He could just be the greatest Briton that you have never
:12:31. > :12:37.heard of. You were the man who developed the famous pollen count.
:12:37. > :12:41.How did that happen? We had this special hay fever clinic, where
:12:41. > :12:45.patients came who only had seasonal hay fever. I had one particularly
:12:45. > :12:51.annoying patient, who said I know the cause of my hay fever is due to
:12:51. > :12:55.roses. I said to her, "Roses do not put pollen in the air." From that
:12:55. > :12:59.moment onwards, I decided I had to teach people who was in the air.
:12:59. > :13:03.Nowadays if you look at the forecast you have the pollen count
:13:03. > :13:08.in. I'm sure hay fever sufferers don't need me to tell them, there
:13:08. > :13:13.are high levels at the moment. fought in the Second World War.
:13:14. > :13:18.started. I thought I would be in the right place at the right time.
:13:18. > :13:21.You ended up being imprisoned by the Japanese. Yes at Singapore.
:13:21. > :13:25.long were you in prison for? Three- and-a-half years. Did you continue
:13:25. > :13:30.to practice medicine? Very much so. I knew personally the name of every
:13:30. > :13:34.man in that camp. You were so close, you did know them personally. I'm
:13:34. > :13:38.lucky I survived. Lots of my friends didn't survive. I always
:13:38. > :13:43.count my blessings. He's had a remarkable influence on the whole
:13:43. > :13:46.discipline, not just in this country, but worldwide. Bill has
:13:46. > :13:52.devoted over 70 years to medicine and even put his life on the line
:13:52. > :13:55.for the sake of allergy research. When you have a very severe
:13:55. > :13:59.reaction you have a feeling of impending doom, in other words you
:13:59. > :14:03.think you're going to die. I wanted to know what would happen to me if
:14:03. > :14:08.an insect bit me that I'd never met before. The first bite cause nod
:14:08. > :14:12.trouble. The next a slight bump, 48 hours later. The eighth bite I
:14:12. > :14:15.noticed that the ceiling had gone black. My blood pressure had
:14:15. > :14:19.disappeared. But I found that I hadn't got a pulse. I did the
:14:19. > :14:23.experiment on myself. I couldn't do it on a patient, because
:14:23. > :14:28.potentially it was dangerous. The sister of the ward saw me and said
:14:28. > :14:31."Oh, I know you've done silly experiments on yourself. I'll give
:14:31. > :14:36.you adrenaline." Within a minute I decided I was dough live and not
:14:36. > :14:40.die. Not afraid to take risks, this remarkable doctor has helped
:14:40. > :14:43.improve the lives of millions of allergy sufferers. One of the
:14:43. > :14:48.amazing things is that he really predicted that the range of
:14:48. > :14:53.substances and things that people would be allergic to would increase,
:14:53. > :14:58.particularly drug allergy. worked with Alexander Flemming,
:14:58. > :15:02.what was that like? He was a marvellous man. We got on extremely
:15:02. > :15:06.well together. You did have a disagreement over a key publication
:15:06. > :15:09.though, it was about how if more people were prescribed penicillin
:15:09. > :15:14.there would be more allergic reactions to the drug. He wrote a
:15:14. > :15:22.famous book on penicillin. I was made to write a chapter in his book.
:15:22. > :15:25.He got out his pen and crossed out my last sentence and he said "The
:15:25. > :15:29.more recent penicillin preparations rarely cause local or general
:15:29. > :15:39.reactions." That's what's in the book. With hindsight who was right?
:15:39. > :15:45.
:15:45. > :15:48.He has always inspired me, and he has taught those who have taught me.
:15:48. > :15:58.He was a father figure, he has probably now become a grandfather
:15:58. > :15:59.
:15:59. > :16:03.figure. I may retire when I am 100, but even then, I'm not sure. What
:16:03. > :16:07.an incredible career, as we saw in the film, but one thing they did
:16:07. > :16:13.not mention is that you once treated Saddam Hussein, didn't you?
:16:13. > :16:18.You were flown over because of your expertise in elegies? Yes, I was
:16:18. > :16:24.sent out in that capacity, but he was not allergic according to that
:16:24. > :16:27.definition. I treated him correctly, and therefore he is the most
:16:27. > :16:34.grateful patient I have ever had. Can you tell us what was wrong with
:16:34. > :16:40.him? If he was not sleeping or praying, he was smoking. He smoked
:16:40. > :16:50.and smoked, and that was his real trouble. We were allies with Saddam
:16:50. > :16:51.
:16:51. > :16:57.Hussein then - do you regret treating him now? If you're a
:16:57. > :17:02.doctor, it does not matter who the person is, he's a patient. He was a
:17:02. > :17:06.patient and I wanted to help him. We heard in the film, lots of
:17:06. > :17:09.people are now calling you the grandfather figure of Medicine, so
:17:09. > :17:15.what do you think of the youngsters who are coming through, taking on
:17:15. > :17:20.your work? Well, I think so many of the young people have not been
:17:20. > :17:24.taught enough about allergy, which is becoming more common. Something
:17:24. > :17:30.like seasonal hayfever, we do not know why allergy is becoming more
:17:30. > :17:35.common, but it is. My worry is that although this country does very
:17:35. > :17:40.good research, a lot of the GPs and other people know so little about
:17:40. > :17:46.how to diagnose it and treat it. Well, you had better not retire,
:17:46. > :17:53.then. And Bill is 100 years old on 19th March.
:17:53. > :17:57.APPLAUSE Don't go testing any treatments between now and your
:17:57. > :18:02.birthday, that's what I say. It is fair to say that spring has
:18:02. > :18:07.definitely sprung. Here's the evidence, some newborn lambs from
:18:07. > :18:12.our Farm up in Durham. We have got six already, and triplets are due
:18:12. > :18:19.tonight. There is an expectant mother, waiting patiently. It may
:18:19. > :18:23.be a busy time on your farm, but it is also a busy time under water, as
:18:23. > :18:28.Miranda Krestovnikoff has been finding out. The fight for survival
:18:28. > :18:33.in the sea is a tough one, with the vast majority of offspring never
:18:33. > :18:39.reaching maturity. To counter this, some fish spawn huge numbers of
:18:39. > :18:45.eggs. But others take a very different approach. Many sharks,
:18:45. > :18:50.rays and skates do not lay eggs, but instead, these little egg cases.
:18:50. > :18:55.By doing so, they get a bit of a head start in life. To find out
:18:55. > :18:59.exactly how, I have come to this marine aquarium on the shore of the
:18:59. > :19:06.Moray Firth in Scotland, which exhibits only see life found in
:19:06. > :19:12.British waters. This doctor is a shark and res scientist from
:19:12. > :19:17.Aberdeen University. By producing these egg cases, they get a lot
:19:17. > :19:21.more protection, they can go into shallow waters, and hopefully be
:19:21. > :19:26.more successful. So they tend to invest more energy in a smaller
:19:26. > :19:33.number of offspring? Absolutely. But to boost their chances even
:19:33. > :19:37.more, the aquarium collects egg cases laid by sharks and rays and
:19:37. > :19:47.transfers them to a dedicated nursery, in a captive breeding
:19:47. > :19:47.
:19:47. > :19:52.programme. The programme covers two species are, the Thorn backed rays
:19:52. > :20:02.and the lesser spotted dogfish. This man is the aquarium's displays
:20:02. > :20:05.
:20:05. > :20:09.officer. How long does it take for them to emerge? The average for the
:20:09. > :20:15.dogfish is about nine months. these fairly close to hatching, the
:20:15. > :20:21.ones at the top? Yes, fingers crossed, we might even see them
:20:21. > :20:29.hatching today. Have a look at this one, you can see how there's a slip
:20:29. > :20:38.at the top, it has already been forcing a bit to try and get out.
:20:38. > :20:44.Look at that! How sweet. Look at him. The babies are only 10
:20:44. > :20:51.centimetres long when they hatch, but that is giant, compared to most
:20:51. > :20:57.fish, which start life as larvae. They will spend a year in the
:20:57. > :21:05.nursery, to get the best possible start in life. Time to go fishing.
:21:05. > :21:10.Any of these, we will go for the near one. What a beautiful, a tiny
:21:10. > :21:16.baby shark. Lovely! To make sure they release the release site in
:21:16. > :21:19.top condition, the dog fish are put in a oxygenated sea water, and put
:21:19. > :21:27.in insulated boxes before being driven to a suitable stretch of
:21:27. > :21:33.shoreline. But the one thing I find slightly puzzling is why relatively
:21:33. > :21:36.common and widespread species need to be released into the wild.
:21:36. > :21:41.the case of the lesser spotted dogfish, they are getting caught up
:21:41. > :21:46.a lot. They can do well if they are thrown back in time, but with
:21:46. > :21:50.different laws coming in, it might impinge on the species numbers.
:21:50. > :22:00.we are trying to get ahead of ourselves a bit black absolutely,
:22:00. > :22:00.
:22:00. > :22:10.help the species before it becomes a bit too late. Chris has given the
:22:10. > :22:10.
:22:10. > :22:18.dogfish time to acclimatise before releasing them. We have even seen a
:22:18. > :22:28.female dog fish in this area coming in to lay her eggs. Fantastic,
:22:28. > :22:31.
:22:31. > :22:38.look! He is now a wild dog fish. Wow! Look! That's so wonderful.
:22:38. > :22:46.is always great to see, look at him. Just swimming off. It is a big
:22:46. > :22:50.ocean for a small fish. Some sharks and rays beat the opposition in the
:22:50. > :22:56.wild by using their energy to make these extraordinary underwater
:22:56. > :23:04.incubators, instead of laying millions of eggs. And hopefully,
:23:04. > :23:08.some of these guys will start laying egg cases all their own. Now,
:23:08. > :23:15.our Sport Relief challenge, The One Show 1000, is upon us, and we need
:23:15. > :23:20.you to get involved. The idea is to run a relay of 1001 show viewers,
:23:20. > :23:26.each running one mile. It will stretch from the Isle of Mull to
:23:26. > :23:31.the Royal Mall in London. We need people all along the route. Today,
:23:31. > :23:36.we are focusing on one of the first sections, from Scotland over to
:23:36. > :23:38.Northern Ireland. Mull is already full, so no applications there,
:23:38. > :23:48.full, so no applications there, please. But we do need runners in
:23:48. > :23:52.the following regions... You can apply on the Sport Relief website,
:23:52. > :23:56.it is for a brilliant course. Some of the Sport Relief project's work
:23:56. > :23:58.with homeless people, but homelessness has not always been
:23:59. > :24:06.dealt with so sensitively, as Gyles dealt with so sensitively, as Gyles
:24:06. > :24:10.Brandreth discovered. The British Pathe news archive provides a
:24:10. > :24:18.precious window into the past. In times gone by, life, it could be
:24:18. > :24:25.said, was somewhat simpler than it is today. In the 1940s, for none
:24:25. > :24:31.more so than at the man without a care in the world, the Trump.
:24:31. > :24:35.NEWSREEL: His worldly possessions can be tied in an old handkerchief,
:24:35. > :24:43.but the birds still greet him in the morning. He has nothing, and
:24:43. > :24:46.yet everything. According to Pathe, happiness, and the occasional
:24:46. > :24:52.handout from a sympathetic housewife, was all the homeless
:24:52. > :24:59.needed to survive. The tramp would travel from door-to-door, leaving
:24:59. > :25:03.behind his ingenious messages. NEWSREEL: This sign, for instance,
:25:04. > :25:09.means, no go. This one means, too many callers. And finally,
:25:09. > :25:16.dangerous, don't touch it with a barge pole! That's how the Knights
:25:16. > :25:19.of the road conduct their correspondence. So, was this
:25:19. > :25:23.betrayal from British Pathe a true representation, or was there a
:25:23. > :25:27.larger problem which Pathe was ignoring? The truth is that
:25:27. > :25:32.homelessness was on the rise in Britain, following both the Great
:25:32. > :25:36.Depression and the Second World War. By the 1960s, Pathe was opening its
:25:36. > :25:40.allies to the fact that numbers had increased dramatically, and the
:25:40. > :25:47.nature of homelessness itself had changed. Alcohol abuse and drug
:25:47. > :25:53.abuse were escalating, and sympathy from the public was falling.
:25:53. > :25:58.cannot sustain or absorb this number. As the problem escalated,
:25:58. > :26:05.in the early 1970s, Pathe began to paint a different, and arguably
:26:05. > :26:11.more honest picture. This is a jungle. But it was that same decade
:26:11. > :26:16.that saw the opening of the Charing Cross shelter.
:26:16. > :26:23.NEWSREEL: This morning, the first move was made towards what
:26:23. > :26:27.everybody hopes will be a better life for the homeless of London.
:26:28. > :26:34.Charles Fraser, now the head of the charity, first began working there
:26:34. > :26:39.more than 30 years ago. What would he make of Pathe's early attitude?
:26:39. > :26:43.His kingdom is the highway, his treasures, the air, the blossom and
:26:43. > :26:47.the sunshine. What comes across is that it is completed delusional. It
:26:47. > :26:52.is important to remember that in those days, there was relatively
:26:52. > :26:56.little help for homeless people. How has homelessness actually
:26:56. > :27:00.changed since the Second World War? For an awfully long time,
:27:01. > :27:05.homelessness was linked with migrant labour. In the 1980s, it
:27:05. > :27:12.came to be seeing much more as a housing problem. What we see now,
:27:12. > :27:17.increasingly, is that homelessness is a health problem, particularly
:27:17. > :27:22.around low-level mental health. Pathe may have woken up to the
:27:22. > :27:25.problem, and the numbers were at their worst, but today,
:27:25. > :27:29.homelessness has far from disappeared. Recent figures suggest
:27:30. > :27:38.that on any one night, 2,100 people were sleeping rough in England last
:27:38. > :27:41.year. Experts believe the true number to be much higher. I was
:27:41. > :27:46.suffering with mental problems, I was drinking too much, and the
:27:46. > :27:52.council came and took my house. you actually slept on the streets?
:27:53. > :27:58.Yes, make no mistake, it is no way to exist. I had had houses and cars
:27:58. > :28:03.and nice jobs, and I was terrified, that was my lowest point. What do
:28:03. > :28:05.you say to people who think it is never going to be them? I spend a
:28:05. > :28:11.hours every day with people who think it will never happen to them,
:28:11. > :28:16.but beware, it is easier than you think. It was shot alike Charing
:28:16. > :28:22.Cross which saved Alan from a life on the streets. Today, he works for
:28:22. > :28:25.homeless charity, helping others. Despite their initial ignorance,
:28:25. > :28:30.Pathe were there to report on a world waking up to the problem of
:28:30. > :28:37.homelessness. But even today, it is more of a problem than Pathe ever
:28:37. > :28:42.knew. Gyles Brandreth cannot help himself, diving into the Pathe
:28:42. > :28:48.archives. On Chris Evans's' Breakfast Show on Friday, you
:28:48. > :28:54.confirmed that you and Gary Barlow would be collaborating on a song
:28:54. > :28:58.for the Diamond Jubilee - do you know who will sing that song yet?
:28:58. > :29:02.We do not know yet, Gary Barlow will be going around the
:29:02. > :29:12.Commonwealth, searching for artists who could be involved in it. We
:29:12. > :29:15.