:00:15. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.
:00:18. > :00:25.It's pancake day, so if you're tucking in
:00:26. > :00:28.at home right now, we hope you're really enjoying them.
:00:29. > :00:29.Sadly, tonight's guest is still recovering
:00:30. > :00:39.That just reminds me, as it is Shrove Tuesday, I have made you
:00:40. > :00:47.these pancakes from all my leftovers. Now, these ones are lard
:00:48. > :00:54.and fish paste. And these are the plain ones. With just a hint of
:00:55. > :00:56.liver. APPLAUSE
:00:57. > :01:04.Happy days! Mrs Cropley's strange concoctions
:01:05. > :01:09.were brilliantly funny, but did they really have
:01:10. > :01:21.fish paste or liver in? No, I think most things that were
:01:22. > :01:26.called liver were mainly Nutella or chocolate spread or something. We
:01:27. > :01:33.like to keep it real on the One Show! We have got two plates of
:01:34. > :01:42.pancakes, one is very beautiful, lemon and sugar, it is pancake
:01:43. > :01:46.roulette. Because B is liver pate. It is definitely not chocolate
:01:47. > :01:54.paste. And I have to tell from this distance? Which plate would you go
:01:55. > :02:00.for? I am going for A. Are you? Can I have a little smell of A?! That is
:02:01. > :02:07.a good idea! A was a good idea, lovely! I will try that one. It is
:02:08. > :02:11.good! APPLAUSE
:02:12. > :02:18.You did good! Just for the proof, go on. Don't
:02:19. > :02:22.worry! Now, if you have risked a quick phone call behind the wheel
:02:23. > :02:27.recently, you are one in nearly a third of drivers who have been
:02:28. > :02:31.admitted to using their mobile phone while driving. But with harsher
:02:32. > :02:35.penalties on the way, will they be doing it tomorrow?
:02:36. > :02:40.You would think, after 14 years of a ban on using your mobile at the
:02:41. > :02:45.wheel, people would have got the message. Apparently not. I am
:02:46. > :02:50.talking about it now because there is about to be a change in the law.
:02:51. > :02:53.From March, if drivers are caught using their mobile phone, instead of
:02:54. > :02:59.a ?100 fine and three penalty points, it is going to be double,
:03:00. > :03:03.200 points and six points. Ouch! But is that really going to make a
:03:04. > :03:06.difference? To find out, I'm spending the morning with Zoe
:03:07. > :03:13.Billings, a traffic officer from North Yorkshire Police. We are going
:03:14. > :03:20.down to York, we are in a plane vehicle, so we will be looking at
:03:21. > :03:25.any distracted driving is, mobile phones. Increasingly we get crotch
:03:26. > :03:28.gazers, they think, just because they are looking down, that we
:03:29. > :03:34.cannot tell. They know it is wrong, they are trying to hide it. Who are
:03:35. > :03:42.the biggest culprits? Generally delivery drivers. For the price of a
:03:43. > :03:46.hands-free kit, that is what I say. Expecting a busy road in York, I am
:03:47. > :03:52.surprised to find we stop on an industrial estate. There tends to be
:03:53. > :03:56.high mobile phone use around here, people are looking for places,
:03:57. > :04:02.distracted, it is easy for us to spot them, it commands your full
:04:03. > :04:09.attention. I would normally feel safe driving here, but I won't in
:04:10. > :04:13.future! And it is not just me who would not expected. She soon spot a
:04:14. > :04:18.driver on his phone who says he is struggling with his Bluetooth. It is
:04:19. > :04:23.a brand-new van, it takes longer, and it is harder, and I don't know
:04:24. > :04:27.how to get the number through on the new system. So obviously I am going
:04:28. > :04:31.to have to learn a lot better now. And not long after, more people
:04:32. > :04:36.driving distracted. This guy has been called over because he had a
:04:37. > :04:39.map in his hand while driving. As to whether he gets points, he is in the
:04:40. > :04:46.hands of Zoe. You realise what you were doing was wrong. I have been
:04:47. > :04:58.done before. Have you done it since? I have done it since, to be honest.
:04:59. > :05:03.Louw points? Will this have any effect on you using your phone? I
:05:04. > :05:09.guess so. It is my own fault, I have got a hands-free kit, I didn't use
:05:10. > :05:13.it. You have got a hazard, you could have said, ring Dave. There has to
:05:14. > :05:17.be something that will make you stop doing it. I haven't got a bird
:05:18. > :05:21.anymore, so she won't be ringing me five times a day! It is modern
:05:22. > :05:30.society, hustle and bustle, making money. What about going to prison? I
:05:31. > :05:34.guess so, yeah. If there was a custodial sentence? I guess so. So
:05:35. > :05:39.you have caught three people on a phone, one using a map, I am quite
:05:40. > :05:45.shocked. It is an awful lot of people in a small area. Have we
:05:46. > :05:49.earned a cup of tea yet?! While Zoe takes a break, I am asking more
:05:50. > :05:54.people what they think it will take to stamp it out altogether, and I
:05:55. > :06:01.have got four options, finds with points, jail or a ban. If you have
:06:02. > :06:07.got a family and you have to get to work and you lose your license... I
:06:08. > :06:11.think it would be enough as long as it is enforced, six points, I know
:06:12. > :06:18.it is serious, but it seems slightly excessive. I tell you what, you are
:06:19. > :06:22.the first one to choose jail. They could kill me, they could cause an
:06:23. > :06:28.accident. I don't want to lose my life. I think jail is a bit much, we
:06:29. > :06:33.have already got enough people in jail. An immediate ban would stop
:06:34. > :06:36.people. If my daughter was killed because somebody had been on their
:06:37. > :06:42.phone, I would be absolutely furious about it. It has to be, doesn't it?
:06:43. > :06:45.All the people here think the ultimate deterrent to stop people
:06:46. > :06:54.using their phone is this, a much larger fine and a ban.
:06:55. > :06:58.Well, Anita is here to explain more about the change in the law, but do
:06:59. > :07:04.you think ?200 and six points is enough? We saw people in the film
:07:05. > :07:08.were saying go to jail. It is hard, isn't it? So much damage could
:07:09. > :07:13.happen. Definitely, I think it is right to increase the penalty,
:07:14. > :07:20.definitely, and I probably will get caught now, won't I? Not if you
:07:21. > :07:27.don't touch your phone! But you can talk. This is the way it works, the
:07:28. > :07:32.rule of thumb, it is all changing tomorrow, this new law is coming in,
:07:33. > :07:37.do not physically have your phone in your hand. If you want to use it as
:07:38. > :07:41.a sat nav, but the codes in, but the postcode in before you set off, put
:07:42. > :07:45.it on the right place, but the minute you touch your phone, you are
:07:46. > :07:51.in the danger zone. It is terrible if you are a first-time driver. It
:07:52. > :07:56.is really going to affect the newly qualified, two years. If you get
:07:57. > :08:00.caught in those two years, you will get a ?200 fine, you will get the
:08:01. > :08:05.six points, but you will get your license automatically revoked, then
:08:06. > :08:08.you have to to get the provisional and said the test again, and you
:08:09. > :08:12.will still have the six points once you have done the test again. So it
:08:13. > :08:17.is an absolute disaster, so bottom line, and I think it is because, you
:08:18. > :08:21.know, relatively speaking, phones are a new technology, and we are
:08:22. > :08:27.learning. And the amount of accidents caused, over 2000 in the
:08:28. > :08:30.last few years, and in 2015, there were 22 deaths. Don't touch your
:08:31. > :08:36.phone, we need to learn to live without our phones in the car.
:08:37. > :08:41.Unless, of course, you have an integrated system. OK, the irony is
:08:42. > :08:46.that people was taking photos of people doing it to try and catch
:08:47. > :08:51.them! It is getting more confusing! Don't confuse it and drive your car
:08:52. > :08:57.hands-free? I tried that, it doesn't work! Very good point! Can you
:08:58. > :09:04.believe it was 23 years ago that the Reverend Geraldine Granger arrived
:09:05. > :09:09.in Dibley, much to the surprise of the locals. She was one of the first
:09:10. > :09:13.women because, but how much have things changed for female clergy
:09:14. > :09:22.since then? According to Gogglebox's reverend Kate Bottley, quite a lot.
:09:23. > :09:33.# This is a man's world... # Authority is associated with males.
:09:34. > :09:41.For centuries, the hierarchy of the Anglican Church was totally male
:09:42. > :09:45.dominated. It wasn't until 1992 and after 70 years of campaigning that
:09:46. > :09:50.women like me at last were allowed to become priests. And just two
:09:51. > :09:56.years ago, we finally got our first female bishop, although not without
:09:57. > :10:02.opposition. Is it your will and she should be ordained? It is! No, not
:10:03. > :10:08.in the Bible, with respect, your Grace, I asked to speak on this
:10:09. > :10:12.absolute impediment, please. The objection was overruled, and history
:10:13. > :10:19.was made. I ask one more time, is it your will that she should be
:10:20. > :10:24.consecrated? Yes! With women making an impact, things
:10:25. > :10:30.are changing. I've come to Oxford's Trinity College to meet reverend
:10:31. > :10:37.Emma Percy. Man has historically tended to perpetuate the idea of God
:10:38. > :10:42.as being male. Those in power made Daly in their own image, almighty,
:10:43. > :10:48.King, Lord and father, and women need to find a way of reconnecting
:10:49. > :10:55.more fully to the idea that female and male are made in the image of
:10:56. > :11:02.God. So see what it feels like to parade to God as mother and address
:11:03. > :11:06.God as she. What is going on here is bold, Emma is repairing to God as
:11:07. > :11:13.female, a mother figure. Sublet us prey. God, our mother, creator of
:11:14. > :11:19.all that is, whose compassion is boundless...
:11:20. > :11:27.I loved your sermon, it was pretty bad a cost of, why are you calling
:11:28. > :11:32.God she? -- it was pretty radical stuff. Because we have used these
:11:33. > :11:39.male images, it is easy for people to think that God really is a bloke,
:11:40. > :11:43.and that has made it harder for women to connect to God. The
:11:44. > :11:47.suggestion that men are more like God. These are the pictures of God
:11:48. > :11:53.that we know, I realise how silly it is to suggest that we know what he
:11:54. > :11:57.looks like, but an old man on a cloud? I think it has meant that
:11:58. > :12:01.there is a certain entitlement to being in authority, that has often
:12:02. > :12:09.been assumed by men. Half the human race experience life in a woman's
:12:10. > :12:14.body, and that they are made in the image of God. How has that gone
:12:15. > :12:20.down? Mixed! Mixed. People want to tell you that you are wicked. Or
:12:21. > :12:25.silly. It is not only on behalf of the staff that the gender bias has
:12:26. > :12:30.been challenged. Good feminists that we are, we are going to look at some
:12:31. > :12:34.clothes! -- on the heavy stuff. This is one of the first clothing ranges
:12:35. > :12:44.specifically designed for female clergy.
:12:45. > :12:51.# This is ladies' night, oh what a night... #
:12:52. > :12:56.I was ordained three years ago, and I was disappointed with what was on
:12:57. > :12:58.offer at the time, and I was quickly disappointed, they didn't fit, they
:12:59. > :13:03.looked uncomfortable, but there was something deeper than that.
:13:04. > :13:07.I felt that we weren't really being embraced, because there was nothing
:13:08. > :13:13.out there except badly adapted menswear, which made me feel as if I
:13:14. > :13:20.was a man in drag and I was being subdued.
:13:21. > :13:27.We thought, why don't we try to make something for women? It is a supple
:13:28. > :13:34.challenge to the male domination in the ministry. -- supple. The new
:13:35. > :13:38.look is going down a storm. It is a liberating experience. This isn't
:13:39. > :13:42.just about clothes, it's about celebrating ourselves as women in
:13:43. > :13:47.the Church. Watching this, it's 1 million miles away from the old male
:13:48. > :13:54.dominated institution that the Church of England once was. I reckon
:13:55. > :13:54.God would approve all stop wouldn't she?
:13:55. > :14:08.Got some lovely styles there! I have never seen so many female
:14:09. > :14:13.beggars in one place, is it a prayer of vicars? -- vicars. Do you
:14:14. > :14:21.remember your first car sick? I had to have it fitted in quite a Ben
:14:22. > :14:25.Reynolds lies -- in quite a Benn Robinson place in Westminster. I was
:14:26. > :14:29.getting it for a TV show, but it had to be correct, and it was quite an
:14:30. > :14:37.embarrassing experience, because the men that were working there hadn't
:14:38. > :14:40.fitted women. Although a cassock is supposed to de-sex you, women have
:14:41. > :14:45.got lumps where men do not have, so you have to measure, and the men
:14:46. > :14:50.were going bright red! It was a bit embarrassing for them.
:14:51. > :14:57.Did you get a sense of how inspiring you would be? For the women in the
:14:58. > :15:02.film, you were an inspiration. Maybe. Richard Curtis wrote the
:15:03. > :15:08.show, and it was his decision to write a female priest like that, and
:15:09. > :15:13.to normalise it. And we did have some angry people, just as there
:15:14. > :15:19.were angry people when Libby was consecrated and ordained as a
:15:20. > :15:24.bishop. People objected. They did object back then, even to the
:15:25. > :15:30.sitcom. They knew the sitcom might be quite powerful in normalising the
:15:31. > :15:35.situation. But Joy Wallace, or Joy Carroll, she wasn't married then,
:15:36. > :15:41.there she is. She is wonderful. She was the person I did my research
:15:42. > :15:46.around. She was the person most like the character I wanted to play. I
:15:47. > :15:51.asked her, how do you wear the dog collar and when? I agree with the
:15:52. > :16:02.women in the film, it is impossible to find something a bit feminine.
:16:03. > :16:07.Look, yeah... I rest my case. We will leave it there, that was over
:16:08. > :16:11.20 years ago. We will move onto your most recent project. You have been
:16:12. > :16:14.meeting some of the most talented youngsters in the world. Let's see
:16:15. > :16:24.you having a lesson from young Shaolin monk.
:16:25. > :16:49.Just spin it. Just, you know, spin it. APPLAUSE
:16:50. > :17:02.You've got it. Definitely don't try that at home. That caught me on the
:17:03. > :17:08.knuckles and it really hurt. He was amazing. He came out, and as he
:17:09. > :17:13.approached me, he had his swords, I don't know what they call them, he
:17:14. > :17:19.is a Shaolin Warrior, producing a sword from his back, putting it very
:17:20. > :17:22.close to my nose. Really surprisingly, unbelievably talented
:17:23. > :17:26.young guy. Interestingly, this is the first time you meet the children
:17:27. > :17:30.when they come into the studio setting on the sofa. That must be an
:17:31. > :17:35.amazing experience for you. You don't know what you will get, did
:17:36. > :17:40.they know who you were? We know you as an incredible comedian, but how
:17:41. > :17:47.was it for the kids? They know me as a smelly, middle aged woman!
:17:48. > :17:52.The kids on the show are between four and 13, and kids don't really
:17:53. > :17:58.know who I am. I did a bit orbit in Harry Potter, they know that. The
:17:59. > :18:03.kids are far too young to know me. But we decided not to meet them
:18:04. > :18:07.before they came on to do their special talent, because kids can't
:18:08. > :18:12.fake meeting you and meeting you again, and I wanted to see them for
:18:13. > :18:18.the first time. It seemed to work, because we made friends on the sofa.
:18:19. > :18:23.How is this working? Is it a demonstration of skill and are they
:18:24. > :18:27.competing? How does it work? It is no competition, no judgment or
:18:28. > :18:31.prizes, nothing like that. We didn't want to reject any kids or make them
:18:32. > :18:36.feel anything other than utterly relaxed, showing us what ever they
:18:37. > :18:40.can do, whatever their passion, their skill or talent is, the
:18:41. > :18:44.spotlight is entirely on them in a positive way. They come on and tell
:18:45. > :18:50.me what they have done, come additions they have won, how they
:18:51. > :18:54.have learned to do what ever it is, kids from four years old, a chap is
:18:55. > :19:05.a shepherd, he came on and showed me his sheep. That's his being. Amazing
:19:06. > :19:11.kids, those boring dancing kids, Kerry and Joshua, kids with amazing
:19:12. > :19:19.talents. Some of these kids are from viral Internet things, and
:19:20. > :19:31.sensations. Of course. Some of them have had 16 million hits. We had a
:19:32. > :19:38.young boy from the Philippines, his thing was cool, he did a dance by
:19:39. > :19:46.the pool, and everyone saw that. It is so refreshing as well. It is very
:19:47. > :19:51.innocent, light-hearted, positive, perfect for this time in our lives,
:19:52. > :19:56.wouldn't you say, in our crazy, upside-down world, it is something
:19:57. > :19:57.positive. Everybody can see it for themselves, 8pm on ITV, Little Big
:19:58. > :20:04.Shots. Now, as we know,
:20:05. > :20:06.talented children have to grow up. And with us tonight are
:20:07. > :20:09.some adults who performed on TV Before that, Nitin Ganatra has
:20:10. > :20:18.the amazing story of how 100 children from Liverpool found
:20:19. > :20:35.themselves sharing screen space Of the biggest grossing films in
:20:36. > :20:41.Britain in 1958 was Being Of The Sixth Happiness. In 1914, Ingrid
:20:42. > :20:45.Bergman rescued 100 Chinese orphans by tracking them to safety across
:20:46. > :20:54.war-torn China. It was filmed right here on these mountains, but we are
:20:55. > :20:56.not in China. It's a place with dramatic, snowcapped peaks, wild
:20:57. > :21:05.mountain rivers and acres of dense woodland. Snowdonia in North Wales.
:21:06. > :21:13.This man that grew up in London played in good Bergman's adopted son
:21:14. > :21:17.when he was six. Look at you. Yeah! You haven't changed a bit. You have
:21:18. > :21:22.the same smile. Everyone was friendly, Ingrid was very warm. It
:21:23. > :21:27.felt like she was my adoptive mother. The scene with Ingrid in the
:21:28. > :21:33.paddy fields. I remember being told to run along a wall, point, the
:21:34. > :21:39.planes coming in, then run down. The planes would fire and I was really
:21:40. > :21:43.terrified. But why was all of this happening in Wales? In fact, the
:21:44. > :21:47.film was supposed to be shot in Taiwan on the book producers fell
:21:48. > :21:51.out with the government there. They wondered if they could fool VI by
:21:52. > :22:06.building a Chinese set in a wild, unspoiled mountain spot elsewhere.
:22:07. > :22:15.-- fool the eye. Nearby Liverpool was visited by producers, and
:22:16. > :22:24.brought the children to Wales by the bus-load. Today, some of them are
:22:25. > :22:30.back to meet us. My mum is so pleased. My sister! This was one of
:22:31. > :22:36.the babies recruited to play another one of Ingrid Bergman's adopted
:22:37. > :22:40.children. I was quite young. I don't have any recollection of what went
:22:41. > :22:46.on, but my elder brother Roy does. Throughout filming, he was shown to
:22:47. > :22:53.me, and taken away, and I would cry afterwards. That is how I was made
:22:54. > :22:55.to cry. I see! Peter, you will 14, you must have vivid memories. What
:22:56. > :23:04.other memories do you have of the time? There were scenes where we
:23:05. > :23:08.walked for miles. They made us do it 20-30 times, a couple of mile walks,
:23:09. > :23:16.and we were really tired. When you see us on film as knackered, so to
:23:17. > :23:21.speak, we were tired. I claim to fame is that I am the only person to
:23:22. > :23:24.have appeared naked with Ingrid Bergman. There are not many people
:23:25. > :23:34.that can say that. I don't think anyone else can say that.
:23:35. > :23:38.One of the film's breakthrough talents was Bert Kwok. His character
:23:39. > :23:45.led the kids in the dramatic crossing over the yellow River. The
:23:46. > :23:50.scene was shot here. For an actor like Bert Kwok, this was one of the
:23:51. > :23:53.films that launched him. It must have been a coup. Most Asian
:23:54. > :24:00.characters in those days were played by white people. He actually was the
:24:01. > :24:06.forerunner, so to speak, of bringing Chinese out. Chinese kids are
:24:07. > :24:13.playing a Chinese part. It was just so totally new. To celebrate the
:24:14. > :24:18.film's significance, locals are helping stage a special screening
:24:19. > :24:23.for the cast. But how has the film aged after nearly 60 years?
:24:24. > :24:29.You know what the coldest sound in the world is. It's teeth chattering.
:24:30. > :24:42.CHEERING It's given me a lifelong affection
:24:43. > :24:46.for Wales. If I watched it on my own, I would be blubbing away. I am
:24:47. > :24:54.a bit of an old romantic for it. Lovely story. Great to see them back
:24:55. > :24:59.together. It's time to meet some of the stars
:25:00. > :25:03.of past child TV talent shows. Dawn, will you do the honours
:25:04. > :25:06.and introduce our first guests? Representing Bognor Regis,
:25:07. > :25:11.please welcome James Carroll, Simon Capes and Gavin Wickham,
:25:12. > :25:21.also known as the Rockettes! APPLAUSE
:25:22. > :25:23.Here they are. This is what they look like now.
:25:24. > :25:32.And here they are performing on Crackerjack back in 1977.
:25:33. > :25:48.# Lost in the rhythm # It was a jungle... #
:25:49. > :25:57.Who was on drums? Are you still together as a band? Not as a band.
:25:58. > :26:04.But as friends. What do you do now? I run a medical laser company. I am
:26:05. > :26:12.a sound engineer. I used to be a cameraman, but now I am an artist.
:26:13. > :26:17.You have been a talent judge, would you send them through to the next
:26:18. > :26:23.round? I would and I would tell them to reformat and tell them to think
:26:24. > :26:30.about a tour! Simon, wave the Crackerjack! Crackerjack!
:26:31. > :26:33.Representing the Southampton area, please welcome
:26:34. > :26:51.And here she is performing as Margaret Thatcher back in 1978.
:26:52. > :27:02.I sat next to Jim Callaghan fatigue. It was just as I feared it would be.
:27:03. > :27:11.His rumblings abdominal were truly phenomenal, and everyone thought it
:27:12. > :27:21.was me. LAUGHTER Kate, you are still in the business,
:27:22. > :27:29.as a voice-over artist. Do you still do impressions? I do. Give us one.
:27:30. > :27:37.Hello, it is gorgeous to see you on the one Show. Gorgeous to see you.
:27:38. > :27:43.What do you think of that, Dawn? You are the other half of me! My people
:27:44. > :27:48.will call your people, come on, darling, let's do lunch.
:27:49. > :27:58.Please welcome tap dancer and singer Vivienne McMaster!
:27:59. > :28:05.Let's see her competing in Crackerjack Young Entertainer
:28:06. > :28:16.This is my favourite. # Every minute, he leans on my
:28:17. > :28:22.shoulder. # He's kissing me
:28:23. > :28:37.# # That's impressive. You are tapping
:28:38. > :28:44.on point. Look at your legs now. They are OK, I used to put white
:28:45. > :28:52.spirit on my toes to harden them up. You are still a trickle toes today.
:28:53. > :28:58.I still am. I performed in musicals, pantomimes, all of that, I teach
:28:59. > :29:07.kids and also the over 60s. I have a group of performing pensioners.
:29:08. > :29:13.There they are. I love it. You can rejoin the performers, and let's say
:29:14. > :29:18.a big thank you to all of our wonderful guests. APPLAUSE
:29:19. > :29:22.We're looking for stories behind your first dance at your wedding.
:29:23. > :29:24.They could be funny, unusual or romantic.
:29:25. > :29:28.That's it for tonight, huge thanks to Dawn.
:29:29. > :29:30.Looking forward to Little Big Shots tomorrow at 8 o'clock.
:29:31. > :29:37.Dawn tonight and tomorrow some more brilliant guests -
:29:38. > :29:40.Samuel L Jackson, with Tom Hiddleston and Brie Larsson.