:00:18. > :00:26.Hello and welcome to your Easter Monday One Show with Alex Jones. And
:00:27. > :00:33.as Matt is busy lambing on the farm all week, I'm joined by the Warrior
:00:34. > :00:37.himself Chris Hollins. APPLAUSE
:00:38. > :00:41.Thank you. How has your Easter been? Very good potty training. Hit it
:00:42. > :00:46.hard, four days intense training. Exactly. It's not great. I hope our
:00:47. > :00:51.guest has had a better Easter than me, he's a good all round egg and
:00:52. > :00:56.just happens to be Britain's leading musical star.
:00:57. > :01:13.# Love will never ever be the same... #
:01:14. > :01:18.Well, how is that for a Bank Holiday belter? Doesn't get much better!
:01:19. > :01:37.Please welcome Michael Ball! Hi, God to see you. Hi. How are you?
:01:38. > :01:41.Very well. How are you? Interested to hear how your potty training is
:01:42. > :01:46.going. It's more the wife than me but he's going great guns. I wish I
:01:47. > :01:53.was! Can't believe we are talking about this. Aspects of love there.
:01:54. > :02:01.30 years ago nearly. You can't tell. A lot of work! That high note at the
:02:02. > :02:06.end, the B-flat, quite something but it was your idea wasn't it? It was
:02:07. > :02:10.originally. I did a series of concerts before the show opened with
:02:11. > :02:15.Sarah Brightman and Andrew Lloyd Webber decided we were going to
:02:16. > :02:24.presue two songs from Aspects as kind of finales for the show. --
:02:25. > :02:30.preview. Love Changes Everything used to end "love will never be the
:02:31. > :02:35.same" and I thought, don't you think we ought to have a showy finish -
:02:36. > :02:40.not like me at all! And he said, can you get it because I don't read
:02:41. > :02:44.music, I don't know what my range was, I didn't at the time. I belted
:02:45. > :02:48.out this note little realising I was going to have to do it twice in a
:02:49. > :02:54.show, eight shows a week when they put it in. But it worked. It worked.
:02:55. > :02:57.Yes, yes. It's the money note, you know, the
:02:58. > :03:02.money note! This Easter weekend's been hit by
:03:03. > :03:05.winds, rain and snow in some areas but we know our viewers are not the
:03:06. > :03:11.kind of people to stop the weather from them having fun. Of course. If
:03:12. > :03:14.you have a photo of your family braving the elements, send them into
:03:15. > :03:20.the usual address and we'll show some later. As Michael is here to
:03:21. > :03:25.talk about the Olivier Awards, we'll have a performance from the
:03:26. > :03:31.nominated show later, the cast of Bugsy Malone. My favourite. Easter
:03:32. > :03:34.is the most important date in the Christian calendar and this weekend
:03:35. > :03:39.millions of people will have come together to celebrate their faith.
:03:40. > :03:43.Can faith alone explain the seemingly miraculous recovery of a
:03:44. > :03:48.wheelchair-bound man. Dr Sarah Jarvis has re-opened the case book
:03:49. > :03:55.on the story of Jack Traynor. When it comes to miracles, it's easy
:03:56. > :03:58.to be cynical. But for millions of pilgrims, to holy shrines like
:03:59. > :04:06.Lourdes, they're proof of divine intervention. So should miracles be
:04:07. > :04:10.taken seriously? I may be a Christian, as well as a doctor, but
:04:11. > :04:14.I do not believe in miracles. Here in Liverpool, many people are
:04:15. > :04:19.certain this man, Jack Traynor, was cured by God. We know for certain
:04:20. > :04:25.that Jack was gravely injured during World War I and given a full war
:04:26. > :04:29.pension because of his paralysed arm and severe epilepsy. By 1923, he was
:04:30. > :04:35.confined to a wheelchair but travelled to Lourdes in a party of
:04:36. > :04:37.Catholic pilgrims. Michael Langham organises trips there today and this
:04:38. > :04:43.is his understanding of what happened next. When the blessed
:04:44. > :04:48.procession took place, his arm, which the nerves had been severed
:04:49. > :04:52.and he'd had operationles to try and rejoin these nerves in his arm,
:04:53. > :04:58.began thrashing about. They took him to the hospital. The following
:04:59. > :05:03.morning he leapt from the bed and ran, in his night garments to the
:05:04. > :05:07.grotto and net in prayer and, from even when I was a child, people were
:05:08. > :05:11.told about the Jack Traynor story and we believe that it's a miracle.
:05:12. > :05:15.Jack went on to run a successful business as a Coleman. His
:05:16. > :05:18.grandchildren, Gary and Jackie, have no doubts.
:05:19. > :05:25.What do you think happened to Jack that day in Lourdes? I think he was
:05:26. > :05:30.very fortunate that he was a chosen person to be cured and I believe he
:05:31. > :05:34.was cured of his illness and that is my given belief. And we are here, we
:05:35. > :05:38.are here as living proof. For a case to be officially
:05:39. > :05:47.recognised as a miracle by the Catholic Church, it needs to be
:05:48. > :05:51.assessed by the international recognition of Lourdes using
:05:52. > :05:55.scientific methods. Michael Moran has agreed to review the case file.
:05:56. > :06:00.But are all doctors as ultra--sceptical as me?
:06:01. > :06:04.Do you really believe in miracles? I have to say, I do. I have seen
:06:05. > :06:08.evidence to back up cures through my work in international medical
:06:09. > :06:15.committee and have met three people who've been noted as having
:06:16. > :06:20.miraculous cures, so I've seen the person after the cure. I see the
:06:21. > :06:25.placebo effect of people getting better because they want to. Surely
:06:26. > :06:32.that is it? You can't explain this with the placebo effect. Only 69
:06:33. > :06:38.cases have passed all the tests to be classified as miraculous cures.
:06:39. > :06:41.Jack's grandchildren have never seen the report published on their
:06:42. > :06:45.grandfather or heard the conclusions. You have been to
:06:46. > :06:50.Lourdes a few weeks ago and looked through Jack's case in detail, what
:06:51. > :06:54.did you find? The first important thing is the report is there, lots
:06:55. > :06:59.of things about your grandfather and here is a summary of the case which
:07:00. > :07:05.is laid out by the doctor at the time. A lot of detail there. How he
:07:06. > :07:08.was deemed incurable and then a summary for a year later saying this
:07:09. > :07:13.is a powerful man who is fit and well and a note from a GP in
:07:14. > :07:18.Liverpool to say that he knew him and that he did have epilepsy and
:07:19. > :07:25.now he doesn't. So he's a powerful man, the picture of health? Yes. To
:07:26. > :07:29.me, it's pretty convincing. Yes. Without a shadow of a doubt. I
:07:30. > :07:33.accept the circumstances of Jack's recovery are extraordinary. But in
:07:34. > :07:38.the end, the medical committee gave two good reasons why this case
:07:39. > :07:42.should not be considered a miracle. We think part of it might have been
:07:43. > :07:45.due to the delay between his first official examination which may then
:07:46. > :07:49.have said that we can say for definite it happened at that time.
:07:50. > :07:51.If we were looking at the medical details, potentially it could have
:07:52. > :07:57.been that he still had a small amount of right arm weakness after
:07:58. > :08:01.the cure, albeit he was obviously very functional
:08:02. > :08:06.the cure, albeit he was obviously coal. The man who left for
:08:07. > :08:08.the cure, albeit he was obviously in a wheelchair returned to applause
:08:09. > :08:11.here at lime in a wheelchair returned to applause
:08:12. > :08:18.The bar for in a wheelchair returned to applause
:08:19. > :08:20.high. In all my years as a doctor, I've
:08:21. > :08:27.high. In all my years as a doctor, without a cause I can understand.
:08:28. > :08:30.high. In all my years as a doctor, Dr Sarah
:08:31. > :08:32.high. In all my years as a doctor, clear in the film that you don't
:08:33. > :08:38.believe in miracles but there is no clear in the film that you don't
:08:39. > :08:45.is extraordinary. How flummoxed are you? Completely. All doctors would
:08:46. > :08:48.be. Nerves are similarly not supposed to put themselves back
:08:49. > :08:56.together and certainly not overnight. Medical miracles happen
:08:57. > :08:59.sometimes and for inexplicable medical reasons, people recover.
:09:00. > :09:04.Especially we hear in terms of cancer? Cancer is a really odd one.
:09:05. > :09:09.It's still incredibly rare and I wouldn't want to give people hope.
:09:10. > :09:13.Probably about four cases a month in medical literature are people who've
:09:14. > :09:17.had spontaneous remission, a cancer which should have been going in One
:09:18. > :09:20.Direction, and we know which direction that is unless they have
:09:21. > :09:24.treatment, but suddenly overnight completely disappeared. Classic,
:09:25. > :09:30.beautiful case, a chap called John Pattison who 40 years ago was
:09:31. > :09:35.diagnosed with Hodgekin's disease, he was told it was terminal, he had
:09:36. > :09:39.treatment, kept relapsing, he said, that's it, I'm taking myself off to
:09:40. > :09:44.make the most of it, he came back from abroad, two months later,
:09:45. > :09:48.doctors examined him and said "it's gone! " Extraordinary. I suppose in
:09:49. > :09:53.terms of medical research you get excited? We'd love to be able to
:09:54. > :09:57.investigate what caused it, we'd like to bottle it, we want some of
:09:58. > :10:01.what they've got. Those cases are rare but there is something more
:10:02. > :10:07.tangible now. This immuno-therapy is a big step forward in terms of
:10:08. > :10:10.cancer isn't it? Yes, and it may be connected to the spontaneous
:10:11. > :10:13.remissions because we think what is possibly happening there in some
:10:14. > :10:19.cases might be people's immune system fighting it off. This is
:10:20. > :10:27.designer immune system. So we know we all produce antibodies, you have
:10:28. > :10:32.a cold, you fight it off. These are mono-clonal antibodies designed
:10:33. > :10:39.specially to attack the proteins on the cancer, so they can be used to
:10:40. > :10:45.treat the cancer or we can make them attack the cancer itself. We can use
:10:46. > :10:51.viruses now which we are modifying, to get them to attack the cancer.
:10:52. > :10:57.Marvellous. Moving on now to your area of expertise, the theatre!
:10:58. > :11:02.OK. Oh, that one. Thank goodness, yes.
:11:03. > :11:06.The mouse trap is the longest running show, it started back in
:11:07. > :11:11.1952? Yes. Do you know the shortest running show in the West End? In the
:11:12. > :11:15.West End. No, I know on Broadway there was a show called I think
:11:16. > :11:18.Glory Days that closed at the interval!
:11:19. > :11:24.LAUGHTER You knew that Michael Ball was going
:11:25. > :11:28.to be... I think I have a sneaky idea but I won't give it away. You
:11:29. > :11:32.have ruined it anyway so don't worry.
:11:33. > :11:35.It's had an opening night and a memorable closing performance. They
:11:36. > :11:41.were both on the same day, sadly. Yes.
:11:42. > :11:48.Every year, theatre shows in the West End make more than half a
:11:49. > :11:50.billion pounds. But for individual productions, it can go horribly
:11:51. > :11:55.wrong. This is the story of a West End
:11:56. > :12:00.production that became the shortest running show in modern West End
:12:01. > :12:05.history opening and closing within 24 hours. It's Friday morning and
:12:06. > :12:09.welcome to Radio 1... When Radio 1 DJ Mike Reed came up with the idea
:12:10. > :12:13.of writing and composing agriculture an all singing all dancing tribute
:12:14. > :12:20.to the life of Oscar Wilde, it was always going to be a tough sell.
:12:21. > :12:24.We'll have a jingle. Mike Reed, just what I always wanted...
:12:25. > :12:29.Oh! Most West End musicals look for at least a couple of million as a
:12:30. > :12:35.start-up fund and employ a big team behind-the-scenes.
:12:36. > :12:38.Not Mike. It was Reed's decision to produce direct and fund the entire
:12:39. > :12:43.show by himself and that turned out to be the real problem. The first
:12:44. > :12:49.duty of the theatre producer is to secure the right venue. Mike chose
:12:50. > :12:56.The Shaw, his first big error, the Shaw promised to launch Oscar as the
:12:57. > :13:01.centrepiece of an expensive lawn. . -- launch. . That, according to Mike
:13:02. > :13:03.Reed, didn't happen. We were spending on re-establishing it
:13:04. > :13:09.because it was basically a conference centre, it wasn't on the
:13:10. > :13:15.map, taxi drivers didn't know where it was, they weren't online without
:13:16. > :13:19.an e-mail address. Without the support, Oscar's box office presales
:13:20. > :13:24.were disastrous with just five paying customers in total.
:13:25. > :13:32.Traditionally, it's advance ticket sales that fund a show's start-up
:13:33. > :13:35.costs. Without these, no-one even knew Oscar the Musical was on. As
:13:36. > :13:40.the curtain rose on press night, Mike knew he needed good reviews to
:13:41. > :13:44.help drum up box office business. But then another disaster hit. The
:13:45. > :13:49.sound was all over the place and there were real problems. I spent
:13:50. > :13:57.most of that night walking the streets. I knew that we were really
:13:58. > :14:02.up against it. Jittery, waiting to see what the papers said. I knew it
:14:03. > :14:06.wasn't going to be good. And he was right, a theatre critic remembers
:14:07. > :14:11.what he saw. It wasn't a very successful first night. In fact it
:14:12. > :14:15.was a disaster and, I looked at my review and I was slightly shocked
:14:16. > :14:21.and embarrassed by it because you don't want to be too nasty but this
:14:22. > :14:26.is what I said for what it's worth; "what would Oscar Wilde say if he
:14:27. > :14:31.was condemned no watch the musical of his 150th birthday, something
:14:32. > :14:37.about his hair going grey from gratitude or he might be too busy
:14:38. > :14:44.chewing his green carnation in dismay... ". Not very nice. That was
:14:45. > :14:49.Jon rows compared with some. This was much more than an artistic
:14:50. > :14:54.failure. With no third party investors, terrible presales and a
:14:55. > :14:58.disastrous product launch, Oscar the musical faced an immediate cash
:14:59. > :15:01.problem. The dilemma was simple, to stem the financial bleeding by
:15:02. > :15:08.injecting more of his own money or cut and run.
:15:09. > :15:12.Reid chose the latter, closing the show after an unprecedented one
:15:13. > :15:19.night. Why couldn't you have gone on?
:15:20. > :15:30.I didn't have the money other major West End producer. I couldn't afford
:15:31. > :15:36.to carry on so I had to make a quick decision as to whether to carry on
:15:37. > :15:41.or cut and run them, and that was the decision. I said I can't get
:15:42. > :15:47.deeper and deeper in here so I took the decision to pull it. Some
:15:48. > :15:51.reports put the figure Mike lost close to ?80,000, a drop in the
:15:52. > :15:57.ocean for the big boys may be but a future loss for one man. In this
:15:58. > :16:04.world, the world of show business, there is the show and the business.
:16:05. > :16:08.Business is the difficult end of it. There you are producing this thing,
:16:09. > :16:13.didn't work, and you have never done it again. I never wanted to be a
:16:14. > :16:18.producer, learned a lesson, wouldn't do it again. But again, you can look
:16:19. > :16:24.back for what it's worth and say you are in good company of people down
:16:25. > :16:27.the decades who have gone swaps, shouldn't have done that. The great
:16:28. > :16:33.Oscar couldn't have put it better himself.
:16:34. > :16:37.He cannot knock him for his bravery. I have got to ask, I know this
:16:38. > :16:43.audience will say you have never been in a stinker of a production,
:16:44. > :16:54.but have you? I have been in a show that has been rubbish. I shouldn't
:16:55. > :16:58.say... Kismet. Oh, here we are. I wish I could tell the stories, I
:16:59. > :17:03.can't, but it was ill-conceived to start with. We shouldn't have been
:17:04. > :17:06.doing it because it is set in Baghdad and we were at war at the
:17:07. > :17:11.time so that's not the greatest of starts. And it is very
:17:12. > :17:16.old-fashioned, beautiful music and I was told we were going to rewrite
:17:17. > :17:20.the book and the writer was still alive and he wouldn't let us. It was
:17:21. > :17:27.terrible but the good thing that came of it was but also in the cast
:17:28. > :17:32.was a young opera singer called Alfie Boe. We became great mates and
:17:33. > :17:36.I persuaded Cameron Mackintosh to come and see the show because I said
:17:37. > :17:41.you will never see anything worse in your life and he loves a bad show,
:17:42. > :17:48.loves having a laugh. I introduced him to Alfie and that's where the
:17:49. > :17:56.whole Les Miserables came from. We are here to talk about Sunday night,
:17:57. > :17:57.you are hosting Olivier Awards, and here are some of the musical
:17:58. > :18:43.nominations this year. And do you see how we have the
:18:44. > :18:49.actual award. You have done it, you have the actual award. Have you felt
:18:50. > :18:55.it? I want it back! Is what will your personal highlight this year? I
:18:56. > :19:01.think Imelda Staunton's performance, she's a great mate but I'm not
:19:02. > :19:07.biased, her performance in Gypsy was one of the most brilliant
:19:08. > :19:12.performances I have ever seen in the theatre. It is an extraordinary
:19:13. > :19:21.show, one of the most challenging shows, and she was incredible. I
:19:22. > :19:29.loved Kinky Boots. I haven't seen Bend It Like Beckham yet, I'm going
:19:30. > :19:33.to see it next week. The theatre is really thriving and it is an open
:19:34. > :19:39.field, the awards. Some years you can say this will win, that will
:19:40. > :19:43.win. And it is not just musical is of course. I'm looking at some of
:19:44. > :19:51.the biggest names, Nicole Kidman, Benedict Cumberbatch, Dame Judi
:19:52. > :20:00.Dench. Dame Judi is always up for one. I know, it's boring! And Mark
:20:01. > :20:05.Rylance getting an Oscar, could he do the double? It would be nice,
:20:06. > :20:09.Rylance getting an Oscar, could he wouldn't it? I heard it
:20:10. > :20:11.It's interesting, the big stars you name
:20:12. > :20:17.It's interesting, the big stars you Cooper came over to do Elephant Man,
:20:18. > :20:19.It's interesting, the big stars you they love doing
:20:20. > :20:21.It's interesting, the big stars you and performing live. They will make
:20:22. > :20:26.their money that is where the real training is.
:20:27. > :20:31.And that is where the real training is.
:20:32. > :20:37.out of you doing performances on the night? Yes, I will be part of two
:20:38. > :20:42.performances. Part of a special tribute to the 40 years because it
:20:43. > :20:46.is the 40th anniversary of the Olivier Awards, and getting a lot of
:20:47. > :20:52.previous winners back to perform there, and also a little personal
:20:53. > :20:56.dream of mine because one of the writers of Kinky Boots is Cyndi
:20:57. > :21:03.Lauper and she has asked me to sing with her. I didn't even have to push
:21:04. > :21:08.her! And we want to say congratulations because we know you
:21:09. > :21:14.are taking over from the late Terry Wogan on Sunday mornings on Radio 2.
:21:15. > :21:20.We are really pleased for you, that is a really nice slot. Good luck
:21:21. > :21:25.with that and good luck with the awards and we will have a special
:21:26. > :21:28.performance from one of the related shows, Bugsy Malone, at the end of
:21:29. > :21:32.the show. The leading lady in our next film is
:21:33. > :21:36.used to standing centrestage day after day and you could say hers is
:21:37. > :21:42.a very middle-of-the-road performance. As she gets -- unless
:21:43. > :21:43.she gets more funding, the could be coming down on her
:21:44. > :21:50.performances. Here is could be coming down on her
:21:51. > :21:53.Lollipop lady Marie could be coming down on her
:21:54. > :21:55.mission, not just to make sure hundreds of kids get across this
:21:56. > :22:00.busy road safely, she's also one hundreds of kids get across this
:22:01. > :22:05.marketing mission to her job. Because crossing patrols across the
:22:06. > :22:08.country are at risk as council budgets are squeezed. We are a
:22:09. > :22:17.national institution really. We budgets are squeezed. We are a
:22:18. > :22:21.like fish and chips, red buses... Here in London, it costs the council
:22:22. > :22:26.?165,000 per year to have Here in London, it costs the council
:22:27. > :22:28.25 crossings, but while the Crossing guards are waiting to hear if they
:22:29. > :22:32.will have the chop, parents say guards are waiting to hear if they
:22:33. > :22:40.service is priceless. How much do they pay them compared to the life
:22:41. > :22:45.of one child, you know? Marie says councils should be thinking outside
:22:46. > :22:49.the box. I think councils should be looking towards private sponsorship
:22:50. > :22:53.from companies, we can advertise their logos on our uniforms and a
:22:54. > :22:57.small amount of the budget could be going towards making a difference in
:22:58. > :23:03.the community. Do you think this could catch on nationally? I hope
:23:04. > :23:08.so, I would like it to be standard across the UK. The idea has already
:23:09. > :23:13.caught on in Cambridge, and whilst Marie has had no takers so far from
:23:14. > :23:18.the businesses she has approached, she won't give up. It's not about
:23:19. > :23:22.our jobs, it is about road safety and children crossing the road.
:23:23. > :23:28.Local parents think the crossing patrols provide a vital service.
:23:29. > :23:32.This particular crossing, there has been a few accidents with kids
:23:33. > :23:38.getting run over. I don't know how we can manage crossing this road.
:23:39. > :23:43.You see at all the time if she's not there, so many kids run out and it's
:23:44. > :23:51.not safe at all without her there. Bath was home to Britain's first
:23:52. > :23:55.lollipop lady, Betty Hunt, in 1937. Modern road safety groups advising
:23:56. > :23:59.councils say the need for crossing patrols now is as great if not
:24:00. > :24:05.greater than it was in those early days. Deputy leader of the council
:24:06. > :24:10.is Dominic, he's also won the finance team so what's he planning?
:24:11. > :24:16.We haven't got rid of them, they are still there. We are consulting,
:24:17. > :24:21.looking at new ways of funding lollipop ladies which is why we are
:24:22. > :24:25.looking at our community, at our voluntary sector, and hopefully we
:24:26. > :24:30.can be successful in following Marie in terms of getting sponsorship
:24:31. > :24:35.which would be ideal. I have come to Hornchurch now to join Marie on her
:24:36. > :24:39.quest to get sponsorship from local business. Set up by their dad Jim
:24:40. > :24:46.over 40 years ago, this local building firm is run by brother and
:24:47. > :24:53.sister Jamie and Lauren. I know you are Mormon, how important is it to
:24:54. > :25:03.you that dangerous patrols are patrolled by a man or a woman? --
:25:04. > :25:06.you are a mum. Very important. We have a lollipop lady always on
:25:07. > :25:12.patrol, she is always bright and upbeat and children look forward to
:25:13. > :25:17.seeing them. We need them. I have been given permission by the council
:25:18. > :25:20.to see if I can find either national or local businesses, people who are
:25:21. > :25:27.interested in sponsoring our service. That is something we would
:25:28. > :25:30.be very interested in. Lollipop people are valuable asset to the
:25:31. > :25:35.community and we would be happy to help you in your quest for
:25:36. > :25:40.sponsorship. It is a result for Marie as the building firm agreed to
:25:41. > :25:46.sponsor her for at least a year at around ?6,000.
:25:47. > :25:50.Marie, how are you feeling? Brilliant, really excited. What a
:25:51. > :25:58.lovely family and a lovely family business. I would be very proud to
:25:59. > :26:03.wear their logo on my uniform. It is a positive result. Far from
:26:04. > :26:10.being barking mad, it seems Maria's idea has legs and we will be keeping
:26:11. > :26:16.barking and Dagenham's children safe for the foreseeable future.
:26:17. > :26:23.Thank you. Some pictures now view braving the elements over the Easter
:26:24. > :26:35.weekend. Look at the umbrellas blowing out.
:26:36. > :26:46.And thanks to Michael. Before we go, here is the cast of Bugsy Malone
:26:47. > :26:57.singing one of my favourites. You can see Bugsy Malone
:26:58. > :27:00.at the Lyric in Hammersmith in London from June
:27:01. > :27:02.and tickets are available now. # Anybody who is anybody
:27:03. > :27:12.# Will soon walk through that door # At Fat's Grand Slam speakeasy
:27:13. > :27:19.# Always able to find you a table # There's room for just one more
:27:20. > :27:28.# At Fat Sam's Grand Slam speakeasy # Once you get here
:27:29. > :27:30.# Feel the good cheer # Like they say in the poem
:27:31. > :27:35.# Fat Sam's ain't humble # Plans are made here
:27:36. > :27:40.# Games are played here # I could write me a book
:27:41. > :27:45.# Each night astounds you # Rumours are a-buzzing
:27:46. > :27:48.# Stories by the dozen # Look around you cousin
:27:49. > :27:51.# At the news we're making here # Anybody who is anybody
:27:52. > :27:56.# Will soon walk through that door # Anybody who is anybody
:27:57. > :28:47.# Will soon walk through that door ..stay sharp.
:28:48. > :29:15.You have a very young heart. There's something wrong with your
:29:16. > :29:19.test.