:00:18. > :00:29.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.
:00:30. > :00:37.Now, do you remember this? # shine a light to light the way...
:00:38. > :00:43.It is of course, Katrina And The Waves, the last British winners of
:00:44. > :00:48.Eurovision back in 1997. Tonight we will find at the promising link
:00:49. > :00:53.between Katrina and our entry this time, the magnificent Molly who
:00:54. > :00:59.takes on Eurovision in 12 days' time. First, we meet the woman
:01:00. > :01:05.behind some of our best TV in recent years such as Last Tango In Halifax,
:01:06. > :01:09.Scott And Bailey and Unforgiven. And now a creepy thriller. Featuring a
:01:10. > :01:14.gentleman in a league of his own when it comes to creepy characters.
:01:15. > :01:19.Please welcome Sally Wainwright and Steve Pemberton! Very nice to see
:01:20. > :01:27.you both. The big news over the weekend is Dad's Army being made
:01:28. > :01:32.into a movie. Did you grow up with Dad's Army? I grew up watching it on
:01:33. > :01:36.a Saturday night after grandstand. Will you be going for a part? We
:01:37. > :01:41.understand to be Jones will be playing Captain Mainwaring and
:01:42. > :01:50.Sergeant Wilson will be played by Bill naive -- Toby Jones. I would
:01:51. > :01:54.like to have a crack at private Godfrey with his sisters. He was
:01:55. > :02:03.slightly camp and I loved his know we have. Do you think he could do
:02:04. > :02:09.doddery? I think he could do all of them. In you say you remember
:02:10. > :02:16.watching it on a Friday night. I remember it being on a Friday but my
:02:17. > :02:19.memory is not that good! I used to start watching TV at 6:30pm on a
:02:20. > :02:27.Friday night and go on till midnight. I'm sure that is part
:02:28. > :02:32.of... Getting your ideas. We will talk about Happy Valley, a new drama
:02:33. > :02:39.soon. But first of all this afternoon the UK's biggest ever
:02:40. > :02:42.urgency drill has come to an end testing fire, police and ambulance
:02:43. > :02:49.crews dealing with a plane crash in the city centre. The One Show was on
:02:50. > :02:53.in the secret -- The One Show was in on the secret. Just remember, this
:02:54. > :02:56.is a drill. We are getting reports that a plane
:02:57. > :03:03.has crashed into the Docklands area of London. This looks terrifyingly
:03:04. > :03:08.real, but this is in fact an exercise. It has been laid on by the
:03:09. > :03:13.London Fire Brigade. It is the biggest of its kind. The idea is to
:03:14. > :03:19.test the emergency services for a full-scale catastrophe. This
:03:20. > :03:24.Hollywood style disaster set to the Fire Brigade for weeks to build and
:03:25. > :03:30.involved a huge amount of planning. 400 tonnes of rubble, hundreds of
:03:31. > :03:37.actors and an actual plane, 28 tonne Boeing 787. The idea is that a plane
:03:38. > :03:42.has crashed into this building. It has left this trail of destruction,
:03:43. > :03:46.there are casualties everywhere. The challenge for the emergency services
:03:47. > :03:57.is how they prioritise their response to this incredibly complex
:03:58. > :04:01.scenario. 100 metres, over. At the back of the building and in control
:04:02. > :04:10.of the exercise is the London Fire Brigade Commander. What is the scale
:04:11. > :04:14.of this? You are looking at fire and rescue personnel, just over 200. In
:04:15. > :04:24.terms of ambulance, you are looking at hundred 50 police personnel.
:04:25. > :04:28.Fire, ambulance and police services normally train separately but in a
:04:29. > :04:32.major incident like the 7/7 bombings, they have to work
:04:33. > :04:37.together. Today's exercise tests their ability to do just that under
:04:38. > :04:43.pressure. None of the emergency services taking part knew what to
:04:44. > :04:46.expect in advance. At the moment the guys are trying to assess what is
:04:47. > :04:54.going on, counting the casualties and working out what has happened.
:04:55. > :05:03.Probably 12 casualties, set up your triage over here. I will redirect
:05:04. > :05:08.them over there. These are huge resources you are deploying, how'd
:05:09. > :05:12.justify that cost? The public would expect us to be prepared dealing
:05:13. > :05:15.with a major incident. There is no way to test it without having the
:05:16. > :05:21.resources here. You either play it for real or you do not. The
:05:22. > :05:26.casualties in the water. You can see the tail section of the aircraft
:05:27. > :05:32.under the bridge. The tail section of the plane has broken off in the
:05:33. > :05:39.dock and there are passengers waiting to be picked up. There is
:05:40. > :05:44.mistaken information and some of the guys were in the water for over an
:05:45. > :05:49.hour. Would that be realistic? Normally, we hope not. They're
:05:50. > :05:52.always improvements to be made. They have been told they are in the
:05:53. > :05:56.docks, they have taken their best guess and here we have a very large
:05:57. > :06:00.expanse of water across a number of docs. They have gone to a location
:06:01. > :06:05.where they think they can access the water but at that point their
:06:06. > :06:08.judgement was not the right place for access so they have had to be
:06:09. > :06:15.deployed will stop as the water rescue unfolds, the survivors are
:06:16. > :06:18.being treated. This is the so-called triage area. This is where the
:06:19. > :06:22.casualties are brought, they are assessed and they will bring
:06:23. > :06:29.treatment here -- they will begin treatment here. Are you allergic to
:06:30. > :06:32.penicillin? I am going to give you something for the pain. The London
:06:33. > :06:39.Ambulance Service takes the lead in this area. How does this compare to
:06:40. > :06:43.a real-life situation? They are made up and they are screaming and making
:06:44. > :06:48.the type of noises that people involved in this sort of incident
:06:49. > :06:51.would do. It looks very realistic but everybody knows it is pretend.
:06:52. > :06:57.Do you learn from this type of thing? The paramedics are using this
:06:58. > :07:03.training to respond to entry the injuries they see as real as you can
:07:04. > :07:07.make a training scenario. The first phase of this exercise is drawing to
:07:08. > :07:12.a close. The training will continue for another two days. What have they
:07:13. > :07:16.learned so far? We will see that people have not always got things
:07:17. > :07:20.right so we will start to pick up on that. We have set out to give our
:07:21. > :07:24.crew is something complex, challenging and realistic to deal
:07:25. > :07:28.with and to learn lessons out of that. The next challenge is to
:07:29. > :07:33.tunnel into the building. What the team do not know is what is waiting
:07:34. > :07:36.for them inside. When they have tunnelled through the hundreds of
:07:37. > :07:41.tonnes of rubble, this is what they are going to find, the fuselage will
:07:42. > :07:47.be packed full of casualties. The team will be working 24 hours a day
:07:48. > :07:54.to sort this lot out. A huge production. It was like a
:07:55. > :07:59.film set. It was like a Hollywood film set. All the casualties were
:08:00. > :08:04.made up with very vivid make up. There were amputees there who were
:08:05. > :08:09.made up of casualties. It was a shocking environment to be in. You
:08:10. > :08:13.were there on Saturday morning? It started on Saturday morning and the
:08:14. > :08:20.scenario has been unfolding ever since. There have been guys on the
:08:21. > :08:25.scene 24 hours a day. It is a really huge scenario. Maybe not as big an
:08:26. > :08:30.operation as this but how often do the emergency services get together
:08:31. > :08:34.to do a drill of this type? Once or twice a year they tried to do and
:08:35. > :08:39.into agency scenario. What is unusual about this is the scale and
:08:40. > :08:46.the attention to detail. The guys phoned up and persuaded someone to
:08:47. > :08:49.lend them a 737 fuselage. This is the biggest one that the London Fire
:08:50. > :08:53.Service have ever put on. This is a big one but they do it fairly
:08:54. > :08:58.regularly. The important thing is they know how to work together to
:08:59. > :09:03.operate in the very unlikely event that we see the disaster scenario
:09:04. > :09:07.like that playing out in Britain. Everyone involved will be very tired
:09:08. > :09:13.but what kind of lessons will be learned from this and what kind of
:09:14. > :09:17.analysis will go into it? They're all sorts of levels. There is the
:09:18. > :09:22.individual response to the hundreds people involved, whether they worked
:09:23. > :09:26.effectively, there are decisions being made by people coming into the
:09:27. > :09:30.scene. Did they assess it right? Did they call in the right amount of
:09:31. > :09:35.support? And then the strategic overview, how did the Fire Service
:09:36. > :09:39.work with the ambulance service? What about the contribution of the
:09:40. > :09:41.police? All sorts of levels than they hope to pull it together and
:09:42. > :09:47.learn from it and obviously, far better to learn on a scenario like
:09:48. > :09:50.this then to have to learn from the events of a rail accident. The
:09:51. > :09:54.scenario they are playing at, the idea that a plane has crashed is
:09:55. > :10:01.incredibly rare. Planes very rarely crash and more rarely crash into
:10:02. > :10:06.cities. The scenario is based loosely on something that happened
:10:07. > :10:12.in Amsterdam in 1992 when a cargo plane crashed into a couple of
:10:13. > :10:16.blocks of flats. Over 40 people died in that incident. But this kind of
:10:17. > :10:20.incident does not happen often and people do not need to worry about
:10:21. > :10:24.but you could apply this to another kind of incident so it is an
:10:25. > :10:31.important learning experience. Thank you, Justin. In a moment, we will be
:10:32. > :10:34.talking to Sally and Steve about the band 's new BBC thriller Happy
:10:35. > :10:38.Valley. -- the brand-new BBC thriller. But
:10:39. > :10:47.first a character who could have stepped off a page of Sally's
:10:48. > :10:54.scripts. It is a tobacco baron -- a vicar who turned tobacco baron.
:10:55. > :10:59.This village is in Essex. Just after World War II it was at the centre of
:11:00. > :11:07.a craze for a crop which is very controversial. That plant was
:11:08. > :11:10.tobacco. In post-war Britain, tobacco was a much sought-after
:11:11. > :11:17.commodity. Most adults were smokers. So in 1948 when government
:11:18. > :11:20.restrictions on tobacco imports from America created a cigarette
:11:21. > :11:27.shortage, people were prepared to endure long queues to get hold of
:11:28. > :11:33.their daily fix. But shortages like this meant opportunities for others
:11:34. > :11:38.and not just on the black market. So when the tower up there needed some
:11:39. > :11:44.repairs, the vicar here came up with a very enterprising plan. His proper
:11:45. > :11:50.name was the Reverend Hugh Cuthbertson but the press dubbed him
:11:51. > :11:55.the wacky pass and because his scheme involved growing his own
:11:56. > :12:03.tobacco and dishing out advice to people who wanted to join his
:12:04. > :12:08.smoking club. The vicar grows his own tobacco in the vicarage garden.
:12:09. > :12:13.His daughter Cecily still lives there. He was a very interesting
:12:14. > :12:20.person. He was very musical, very intelligent. There is a photograph
:12:21. > :12:26.here of him in an aircraft? He was very keen on flying and had one of
:12:27. > :12:32.the first aviation licenses. But he soon turned to a different kind of
:12:33. > :12:35.heavenly pursuit and became a vicar. He saw an advert from the Bishop of
:12:36. > :12:40.the Falkland Islands and thought, that will be nice, perhaps it will
:12:41. > :12:46.be a nice break to go to Scotland! Scotland! The post was actually in
:12:47. > :12:53.Chile and he remained there for five years before returning to Britain.
:12:54. > :12:56.In 1940, he became a vicar in Essex and it is here that he began his
:12:57. > :13:09.unusual horticultural career, growing tobacco in this garden. He
:13:10. > :13:14.learned how to grow it and he put a piece in the local deanery magazine
:13:15. > :13:19.that if Sandy wanted to send five shillings then he would tell them
:13:20. > :13:23.what he knew about tobacco growing. One of the London newspapers picked
:13:24. > :13:28.it up and one morning he came downstairs to 500 letters. What was
:13:29. > :13:32.people's reactions to your dad doing this, a Church of England vicar?
:13:33. > :13:39.Yellow macro I think people were just desperate for a smoke! For a
:13:40. > :13:44.while there was a mini boom into back growing. He actually promoted
:13:45. > :13:49.it on health. He believed that by smoking home-grown tobacco he would
:13:50. > :13:54.be less likely to suffer from cancer but he was a vicar and not a
:13:55. > :13:59.scientist. Thousands of people turned to him to learn how to grow
:14:00. > :14:03.and cured tobacco for smoking so he set up a tobacco Co-operative Group
:14:04. > :14:13.taking in vast amounts of tobacco and curing it for his members. With
:14:14. > :14:26.a grudging acceptance from customs, for a spell, but as health concerns
:14:27. > :14:35.mounted, the number of members dwindled steadily and it was finally
:14:36. > :14:41.wound up last year. He was described as the Baccy Parson. Would he like
:14:42. > :14:44.that? He didn't like the Baccy Parson label but I don't think
:14:45. > :14:48.anybody will think of him as anything else. When he started as
:14:49. > :14:53.enterprise he didn't have all the facts at hand but he did so with
:14:54. > :15:00.exactly the right intentions, to save his beloved church.
:15:01. > :15:11.Something very League of Gentlemen about that. Absolutely, I have got a
:15:12. > :15:18.few ideas there. It's like a British version of Breaking Bad. You sell it
:15:19. > :15:23.give you a few little ideas. Every night you would get an idea from the
:15:24. > :15:26.one show. It's lovely to put a face to the main because we have so many
:15:27. > :15:33.actors and actresses on the sofa and they talk about you, the person
:15:34. > :15:38.behind the dramas, Suranne Jones from Scott Bailey and Anne Reid
:15:39. > :15:45.from Last Tango In Halifax, but it's an actual story based on your mum's
:15:46. > :15:50.situation? My dad died in 2001 and my mum came down to live in Oxford
:15:51. > :15:58.and we had a granny flat so she moved in. My sister came to stay
:15:59. > :16:01.with us. She put her name on friends reunited and she found two people
:16:02. > :16:11.from their class were still alive. And one of them was this man called
:16:12. > :16:14.Alex Walker, and they got in touch. It turned out he lived in
:16:15. > :16:19.Northampton which isn't too far away so they agreed to meet up for a cup
:16:20. > :16:23.of tea. And he came to visit and they genuinely fell in love with
:16:24. > :16:27.each other. And now the granny annexe is your office? Yes, they got
:16:28. > :16:33.married and went to live in putting to. Steve, you're the latest to get
:16:34. > :16:36.the benefits of a Sally Wainwright script. But you had to audition for
:16:37. > :16:41.the role, didn't you? I found that quite surprising, actually. I would
:16:42. > :16:45.have assumed you could say, that the person you want but what do have to
:16:46. > :16:50.do for the audition? Normally, with an audition, you get one scene.
:16:51. > :16:54.This, you got the whole six episodes so I was able to read it right the
:16:55. > :16:58.way through from beginning to end, and found it absolutely compelling
:16:59. > :17:03.and was desperate to do it. I made sure I was well prepared. I had
:17:04. > :17:08.worked with the director before but I'd never worked with Sally before.
:17:09. > :17:15.Give us a brief synopsis of your character. It's set in the Calder
:17:16. > :17:18.Valley in Yorkshire and I'm accountant who wants to centred
:17:19. > :17:21.children to about a school so it asks his boss for a pay rise and
:17:22. > :17:26.when he gets turned down, he hatches a kidnap plot and he's completely
:17:27. > :17:29.out of his depth. A normal guy trying to do the best by his family
:17:30. > :17:33.and get involved with some bad criminals and the parallel to that,
:17:34. > :17:39.Sarah Lancashire is a policewoman investigating a crime from her own
:17:40. > :17:40.past as well so that lots going on. This is Kevin planning that
:17:41. > :17:51.abduction. He has a daughter. He could afford
:17:52. > :17:57.to lose half ?1 million easily. It would take about one week to let him
:17:58. > :18:03.get that kind of money together in cash without arousing suspicion at
:18:04. > :18:09.the bank. I don't know where you would keep her. There is an element
:18:10. > :18:15.I haven't thought through yet. You're talking about kidnapping her?
:18:16. > :18:21.She's just finished college, she hasn't got a job. No one would miss
:18:22. > :18:25.her. Just for a few days. APPLAUSE
:18:26. > :18:30.It's very dark. Very, very dark indeed. Where did
:18:31. > :18:38.the idea come from? I had lots of bits of inspiration that started the
:18:39. > :18:44.whole thing off. Basically, the BBC asks me what I want to do next and I
:18:45. > :18:50.think I want to write a police show after the success of Scott Bailey.
:18:51. > :18:55.I didn't want to write Scott Bailey again but do something else.
:18:56. > :18:59.I thought an obvious way to go was to have the main character as a
:19:00. > :19:07.uniformed police officer, rather than detectives. And then, I spent a
:19:08. > :19:11.lot of time with detectives, Bob and Carol, my advisers. I threw some
:19:12. > :19:18.ideas around with them and built it up based on their knowledge and
:19:19. > :19:21.expertise. It's a very real, then. Were you surprised they asked for a
:19:22. > :19:28.police drama because there seems to be an awful lot on the television of
:19:29. > :19:32.them? Hinterland started last night and also vary last night for them we
:19:33. > :19:36.seem to be bombarded. There's a huge amount on telly but that's because
:19:37. > :19:43.people like it. This is about the characters. Sarah's character is a
:19:44. > :19:50.policewoman but everybody else isn't. It's about ground level
:19:51. > :19:53.grassroots policing. Not detectives. I think Sarah's character it is
:19:54. > :19:57.frustrated that she can't get the information she needs to make the
:19:58. > :20:00.arrests. It's really unusual in that she becomes involved in this crime
:20:01. > :20:06.that is not officially investigating. She starts perceiving
:20:07. > :20:10.what happened. It's not a procedural cop drama in that sense. She just
:20:11. > :20:13.happens to be a police officer involved in something she's not
:20:14. > :20:19.investigating. There was a lot going on. We will see it all very soon.
:20:20. > :20:27.Happy Valley begins on BBC One tomorrow night at 9pm. We've
:20:28. > :20:29.reported on the rise in the use of anti-depressants over recent years
:20:30. > :20:33.which is both costly and controversial. Now in a new book out
:20:34. > :20:39.this month, poet and author Andrew Fusek Peters puts the case for a
:20:40. > :20:46.very different sort of remedy. My skin is beaten down with the water.
:20:47. > :20:53.Hammered with temperature. Locked in a battle of willpower.
:20:54. > :21:03.Whilst swimming has always been part of my life, I grew up in London, and
:21:04. > :21:07.I always had the sense of wanting to escape the boundaries. And I
:21:08. > :21:11.remember swimming across the Thames when I was quite young and reaching
:21:12. > :21:19.the far bank and just feeling there was another country out there. Those
:21:20. > :21:22.lost echoes of childhood, of everything glittering and glistening
:21:23. > :21:28.and gold and magic, it was extraordinary.
:21:29. > :21:39.I came out of a very serious depression a couple of years ago.
:21:40. > :21:43.The worst period was about six or seven months during which I had two
:21:44. > :21:46.months in a psychiatric unit and four months at home when I was just
:21:47. > :21:51.not functioning and they just wanted to die every day. My father was
:21:52. > :21:54.suffering from pretty much undiagnosed depression I think and
:21:55. > :22:03.didn't get the support he needed and he killed himself. I think water is
:22:04. > :22:08.about clarity. I think it gives clearness. I think it is refreshing.
:22:09. > :22:14.It's very much the opposite of that fog of depression, that darkness,
:22:15. > :22:22.that despair, that fear of death. All of those things become illusions
:22:23. > :22:28.when you are in the water. As you go in water, there is a shock. There is
:22:29. > :22:33.the body's visceral response, something suffuses your body. You
:22:34. > :22:37.could call it adrenaline but the spirit wakes up. When I swim in wild
:22:38. > :22:45.water I feel like I belong to the world, I have a place in the world.
:22:46. > :22:49.I feel like I fit in. The person, Andrew Fusek Peters, had started to
:22:50. > :22:55.wake up and come back to life again. I remember that first swim
:22:56. > :22:59.and I thought, it is good, I'm allowed to feel this good, I felt so
:23:00. > :23:06.bad for so long, I thought that was normal for the rest of my life. It's
:23:07. > :23:12.not as though I haven't done this before. It merely feels like the
:23:13. > :23:17.first time every time. I weighed fast up to my waist, and then dip
:23:18. > :23:23.down. I'm immersed, contained in this cold called from like the first
:23:24. > :23:32.time every time. I'm in the river and the river is in the and the day
:23:33. > :23:37.is blessed. Everything is natural. It's natural that you grow old and
:23:38. > :23:41.die but that you live, there spring, summer, autumn, water flows, that's
:23:42. > :23:46.natural, and you are of that process. You walk away just feeling
:23:47. > :23:49.very grateful for all that life has to offer. It's an extraordinary
:23:50. > :24:02.feeling. It makes you want to jump in. I
:24:03. > :24:08.don't even like water. He told that beautifully, didn't he? However
:24:09. > :24:13.enticing Andrew made that time, wild swimming can be dangerous. One piece
:24:14. > :24:18.of advice being you always know how you would get out before you get in.
:24:19. > :24:25.For more advice and information head to the One Show website. Now, it's
:24:26. > :24:29.the 59th Eurovision Song Contest in Copenhagen in just 12 days' time.
:24:30. > :24:33.And British entry Molly is raring to go. There she is. There's some tough
:24:34. > :24:40.competition. Here are the frontrunners. Armenia.
:24:41. > :25:07.# You'll never know... Spain. # We are dancing in the rain... And
:25:08. > :25:12.Austria. # Ideas like a Phoenix... Goodness me. We don't want them, do
:25:13. > :25:21.we? AUDIENCE BOOS
:25:22. > :25:27.. Let's put on Molly's song. # Flying like diamonds. # Standing
:25:28. > :25:32.beside you. # I have a feeling I will never walk alone # We are
:25:33. > :25:40.children of the universe # Don't you know? # Dancing at the edge of time
:25:41. > :25:47.# APPLAUSE Catchy.
:25:48. > :25:53.Congratulations to being the UK entry. How did this happen? It was a
:25:54. > :26:02.surprise for everyone including me, actually. I was uploading my music
:26:03. > :26:06.to the BBC called BBC introducing. I was getting some support from them
:26:07. > :26:15.and then I got a cold e-mail, I guess, to say do you fancy giving
:26:16. > :26:19.this a go? And then he wrote the song for it? Every year began behind
:26:20. > :26:25.the act, of course. Bonnie Tyler, Engelbert Humperdinck. They didn't
:26:26. > :26:33.do very well. Do you think you have got an advantage because you are
:26:34. > :26:38.relatively unknown? I don't know, really. I think certainly people are
:26:39. > :26:41.quite curious because of something quite difficult and different to
:26:42. > :26:45.what has been done before, and the reason I find it appealing to begin
:26:46. > :26:49.with was the fact that they wanted to go with someone who wasn't a
:26:50. > :26:52.household name, who just sounded more cool and contemporary. I am
:26:53. > :26:57.saying to them, even if you don't go with me, I hope you succeed because
:26:58. > :27:00.it's a good platform for someone. You put a lot of thought into the
:27:01. > :27:06.staging of it because visually it's very important. Very quickly, what
:27:07. > :27:11.can expect? I can't give it away, I'm afraid, it's top secret. You
:27:12. > :27:16.have limitations we can only have six people on stage. No pre-recorded
:27:17. > :27:24.vocals. We want to make sure that music is represented properly. Just
:27:25. > :27:27.don't grow a beard. I don't know. Steve is a fan. There's lots of
:27:28. > :27:34.people who have an idea of how it should sound. The Internet are so
:27:35. > :27:37.many covers of Children Of The Universe. Some bad and some good. We
:27:38. > :27:46.have picked a few and we would like you to choose your favourite. This
:27:47. > :27:53.is the first ever Your Own Version Song Contest! So the entries are
:27:54. > :27:57.Jason Barker with his acoustic version of Children of the Universe.
:27:58. > :28:05.The One-Man Acapella version by Will Drake. And finally, the Spanish
:28:06. > :28:33.version by Nicxon Jaspe. APPLAUSE
:28:34. > :28:38.I feel I can aid to see them all again.
:28:39. > :28:48.Number two. Congratulations. That is the a cappella version. Very good. I
:28:49. > :28:54.do big fans of Eurovision? Yes. It's always good, isn't it? Molly, best
:28:55. > :28:57.of luck. And you can watch the first Eurovision semifinal on Tuesday
:28:58. > :29:00.sixth May 2014 and the second semifinal on Thursday eighth May,
:29:01. > :29:03.both on BBC Three. We will be back tomorrow night with Matt LeBlanc. I