:00:18. > :00:27.Hello and welcome to The One Show one with me, Angela Scanlon. I'm not
:00:28. > :00:33.sure how chatty my co-host is tonight as he thinks people say it
:00:34. > :00:38.best when they say nothing at all. I see what you did there! Oh! The
:00:39. > :00:43.one-liners. Congratulations, can you believe he
:00:44. > :00:47.is here? I can't believe it. 48 hours after a new baby!
:00:48. > :00:51.Incredible. Everything is wonderful. Mama and baby are healthy and
:00:52. > :00:54.wonderful. It's been an incredible couple of days. Incredible. I cannot
:00:55. > :01:01.believe I'm here. I know. Have you got a name? Yes,
:01:02. > :01:06.finally, the kids and I, we had three different names, we came up
:01:07. > :01:12.with it, it is... Cooper! Coup year Keating. That is lovely. Look at the
:01:13. > :01:16.little fella. He must have been scared of you in that moment? Yeah,
:01:17. > :01:20.that was nigh first hug. Well done.
:01:21. > :01:26.I miss them all. They are down the road at the hospital. I'll be there
:01:27. > :01:31.soon! I hope you are not too tired for tonight's guest. As a member of
:01:32. > :01:36.one boyband, you have a lot of in common. They have announced the
:01:37. > :01:41.mother of all comebacks and the name is on everyone's lips.
:01:42. > :01:48.Bananarama... Bananarama... I love me some Bananarama!
:01:49. > :01:56.# He was really saying something # Really saying something
:01:57. > :02:02.# It's a cruel, cruel, cruel, summer...
:02:03. > :02:09.# Leaving me here on my own... I loved the fact that they had girl
:02:10. > :02:15.power and the dancing was dynamic. # Robert De Niro is waiting...
:02:16. > :02:25.# Talking Italian. # You got it, baby you've got it
:02:26. > :02:34.# I'm your Venus # I'm your Venus
:02:35. > :02:37.# Your desire. I'm so happy to invite them on, Keren, Sarah and
:02:38. > :02:42.Siobhan, otherwise known as the built Bananarama. Ladies, you are
:02:43. > :02:47.very, very welcome. Thank you. You are back together, back on tour.
:02:48. > :02:56.Tell us all about it. Well, I think we have said it many
:02:57. > :03:06.times but Siobhan and Keren and myself went on massive World Tour in
:03:07. > :03:12.1999, we never toured with all of us together.
:03:13. > :03:17.So 29 years later... I didn't know Siobhan wanted to do it.
:03:18. > :03:21.. The initial thing was calling Siobhan. It came out of the blue for
:03:22. > :03:24.her. The shock that she had to deal with it.
:03:25. > :03:28.The level of excitement is overwhelming.
:03:29. > :03:32.People are ready and waiting. It is mostly a sell-out which is
:03:33. > :03:38.extraordinary. That is amazing. But you deserve it.
:03:39. > :03:47.So many great songs. So many hits. You have it. Like riding a bike. And
:03:48. > :03:51.as well as Bananarama we have live music from the Cranberries, closing
:03:52. > :03:55.the show with their classic hit, 'Linger'. One of my favourites.
:03:56. > :04:04.Can't wait for that. A great song.
:04:05. > :04:09.OK Over hits long history, the Victorian Victorian Victorian museum
:04:10. > :04:12.was inmate to one of the great train robbers.
:04:13. > :04:18.But there was one man it couldn't hold.
:04:19. > :04:23.My name is Walter Groom. I'm a husband, a father and a businessman.
:04:24. > :04:32.56 years ago I broke out of prison. This is how I did it.
:04:33. > :04:37.Today I've come back to the Daniil Kvyat Prison in Shrewsbury. I'm not
:04:38. > :04:42.proud of why I ended up here. I never wanted a life of crime but the
:04:43. > :04:48.circumstances I was in led to it. It was petty crime. Breaking into
:04:49. > :04:53.shops, that sort of thing. At the age of 16 I was banged up. After I
:04:54. > :05:00.was released but got in trouble again. Age 25 I was sentenced to
:05:01. > :05:05.another three years inside. Prison was hard. The discipline was
:05:06. > :05:11.very severe. It was a high security prison. My
:05:12. > :05:16.cell and the area around it became my whole world. Every little thing
:05:17. > :05:22.from the mat I tripped over every day to the faces that I saw, it can
:05:23. > :05:27.drive you mad. Occasionally, we did relax.
:05:28. > :05:32.It was when I was stood here playing darts one day, that everything
:05:33. > :05:37.changed. One lad was fairly new and wanted
:05:38. > :05:42.out. One of the other guys at the prison thought that if anyone crowd
:05:43. > :05:46.break out it was me because I had spent four years inside already. I
:05:47. > :05:53.knew I would be out within two years anyway. But I liked the challenge of
:05:54. > :05:58.breaking out. Something had popped into my head, that mat that I
:05:59. > :06:03.tripped over everyday. I knew that the man hole under the mat led to
:06:04. > :06:07.somewhere. It could be the iron grid out in the woodyard I could see from
:06:08. > :06:13.the cell. This wasn't a job we could pull off ourselves. We needed cons
:06:14. > :06:18.to keep an eye out for officers. We went to people we could trust. In
:06:19. > :06:22.exchange for help we traded sugar from the bakery and tobacco. But the
:06:23. > :06:28.important important part was getting a look at the man hole. We were able
:06:29. > :06:35.to find something to prise open it with. We got in, scuttled along a
:06:36. > :06:41.tunnel and found the one thing that meant this could work - day light! I
:06:42. > :06:47.knew that the tunnel did lead to the grid but now the hard work began.
:06:48. > :07:04.One of the other lads worked in the workshop so he could get rope. We
:07:05. > :07:09.used bucket handles to make a grid. Every time we were down there, even
:07:10. > :07:13.with the mates watching out, we risked getting caught. 16 days after
:07:14. > :07:19.the idea came up, we made our bid for freedom. My mate gave a signal
:07:20. > :07:25.to the lads to start a ruckus. The three of us walked with ropes and
:07:26. > :07:30.hooks under our clothes. My heart was pumping, the tension was high,
:07:31. > :07:34.this was it. With the guards kept busy, we went down the man hole for
:07:35. > :07:41.what we hoped would be the last time. I knew getting through the
:07:42. > :07:45.grid was half the challenge. We ran to the wall and threw the rope over
:07:46. > :07:49.but the hook wouldn't catch on the other side. The time was running
:07:50. > :07:54.out. We made a human ladder and climbed up each other. One lad got
:07:55. > :08:00.to the top and threw the rope down. The third guy wasn't going to make
:08:01. > :08:05.it, he told us to leave. We knew we had been discovered so we jumped, 18
:08:06. > :08:10.feet down and to freedom - we'd done it.
:08:11. > :08:17.After six days we were ratted on and got caught and went back to prison.
:08:18. > :08:22.The story didn't end there. As I said, I never wanted to be involved
:08:23. > :08:25.in crime. After getting out in 1965, something happened to me that
:08:26. > :08:31.changed my life forever. I met Barbara. I knew I want wanted to
:08:32. > :08:37.turn my life around because I loved her. It took a long time to tell her
:08:38. > :08:42.about my old life. What was the thoughts when you found out about my
:08:43. > :08:47.past? I was shocked but I thought I could change you.
:08:48. > :08:57.Well, you did. Because I would still probably be here now if it wasn't
:08:58. > :09:01.for you! Staying with crime and punishment, this Sunday millions of
:09:02. > :09:04.us are hoping for answers when the current series of Line Of Duty
:09:05. > :09:11.concludes. Who is Balaclava Man for example and
:09:12. > :09:17.are there rotten apples in AC-12? Girls will be be watching? Yes,
:09:18. > :09:21.beside myself. It is true. We have had many discussions about who may
:09:22. > :09:27.have done it. Colonel Mustard in the library.
:09:28. > :09:37.Someone we know has been watching. He spent part of his career catching
:09:38. > :09:42.crooks, here is Director of Professional Standards for the
:09:43. > :09:43.Metropolitan Police and Deputy Assistant Commissioner, Steven
:09:44. > :09:49.Roberts. How true is this to the crime? It is
:09:50. > :09:56.very true. It catches the feel of what it is like to go after bent
:09:57. > :10:01.cops. They use techniques, a difficult
:10:02. > :10:05.cult technique, not as easy as it seems to be managed in the Line Of
:10:06. > :10:14.Duty. You have been impressed by it? The
:10:15. > :10:19.series is brilliant. I have had 180 officers though, to accomplish what
:10:20. > :10:24.those guys do in a couple of weeks. Steve, can you give us an idea of
:10:25. > :10:28.some of the cases you investigated? One of the most interesting was two
:10:29. > :10:32.serving officers in London who set up their own private detective
:10:33. > :10:37.agency. They sold services to people who were not particular about where
:10:38. > :10:41.the information came from. They could tap telephones, hack into
:10:42. > :10:44.computers. Do physical surveillance and they were selling that sort of
:10:45. > :10:48.information for huge amounts of money.
:10:49. > :10:52.Can't believe it. In the series there is a sense that the cops under
:10:53. > :10:58.investigation are very defensive a lot of the time. Was that true to
:10:59. > :11:04.your experience? The bent cops hated us. I'm glad to say. We were trying
:11:05. > :11:08.to put them in prison. For the vast majority of officers who are honest,
:11:09. > :11:13.it was rather like driving down the road and you see there is a police
:11:14. > :11:16.car behind you. Even though you are not doing anything wrong you
:11:17. > :11:21.straighten up a bit. You do that as well?! Of course I
:11:22. > :11:28.do! That makes me feel better. Good news.
:11:29. > :11:32.So tell bus the 23 p initiative? We came to a point where officers were
:11:33. > :11:37.charged with offences, going to court to be dealt with, and the law
:11:38. > :11:42.says if an officer is suspended on full pay, he's on full pay. Some
:11:43. > :11:48.cases can be delayed by a year, two years, three years. It was a huge
:11:49. > :11:52.waste of public money. So we decided we would try to simply invite the
:11:53. > :12:01.officers in and have a chat with them. I had a particularly stern
:12:02. > :12:05.Chief Superintendent. We spent 23 pence on a second class stamp for
:12:06. > :12:09.the envelope and they were invited in with their solicitor or the
:12:10. > :12:13.Police Federation rep and basically told we don't love you anymore, here
:12:14. > :12:17.is a letter you can say to resign, now.
:12:18. > :12:22.Wow #1k4r57 Presumably you had evidence? These were people we were
:12:23. > :12:28.quite sure had done what they had done, what they were accused of.
:12:29. > :12:32.Astonishingly a number of them signed the letter, went off pay and
:12:33. > :12:38.saved a lot of money for the taxpayers.
:12:39. > :12:42.How much? About a dozen in the first year which saved the best part of ?1
:12:43. > :12:47.million. But that saving was going on and on.
:12:48. > :12:50.The vast majority of the Metropolitan Police are doing a
:12:51. > :12:58.stella job on the streets of London. Thank you, Steve.
:12:59. > :13:05.In connection, Phil and May have the power to ignite the livingrooms
:13:06. > :13:07.across the country. You see, we have found somebody to reinvent fish and
:13:08. > :13:14.chips. Controversial! Fish and chips, as
:13:15. > :13:27.inviting as a British cup of tea and loved for years. But recent polls
:13:28. > :13:35.show it declining. Sales for kebabs are up 9% but visits to chip shops
:13:36. > :13:40.have fallen by 4.4%. The favourite take away is Chinese, closely
:13:41. > :13:47.followed by Indian and pizza, leaving fish and chips in the lonely
:13:48. > :13:56.fourth place. So what is happening? I'm meeting food critic Andy Newman.
:13:57. > :14:00.I have a bone to pick with you, you described cod and chips as one of
:14:01. > :14:06.the most boring meals on the planet. Why? Fish is lovely. I want to taste
:14:07. > :14:10.the fish, not the grease. I see where you are coming from.
:14:11. > :14:15.People come from all over the world, when they come to England, what do
:14:16. > :14:23.they want? Fish and chips! Well, maybe not. The younger people are
:14:24. > :14:28.deearthing our chip shops so if you serve fish, so serve it so you can
:14:29. > :14:33.test the fish, less greasy or stodgy.
:14:34. > :14:39.It seems that the fish and chip shop could be doing with an update. There
:14:40. > :14:46.is a place here in Norwich, guess what, it is run by an American.
:14:47. > :14:51.Here they have teamed up with a Norwich native and together
:14:52. > :14:56.transformed this old school chippie to a trendy restaurant with modern
:14:57. > :14:59.twists on classic dishes such as shark bites and squid and toad in
:15:00. > :15:04.the hole. You have to keep up with the times
:15:05. > :15:10.and people want different things, so that is why we do different things.
:15:11. > :15:16.People want a lighter fish dinner. People don't eat it every day. Some
:15:17. > :15:23.come in and say that they are coming in on Saturday pretend that you have
:15:24. > :15:27.not seen me during the week! The head chef inherited the chip shop
:15:28. > :15:32.from his dad. What did he think of the changes? He thought we were
:15:33. > :15:37.crazy. Put a lick of paint on it, cover the lino, you will be fine.
:15:38. > :15:42.But now he sees what we have done. He says we were right. He is happy.
:15:43. > :15:49.When he comes in, what does he order? Fish and chips! He's not been
:15:50. > :15:55.convinced! Convinced but not converted! You have done a few
:15:56. > :16:00.twists? We have made it a little more exciting, using traditional
:16:01. > :16:06.fish in a fun way. One of the best sellers is bass with sass.
:16:07. > :16:11.Show me how to make it? Yes. Grab a wrap and get salad leaves. A
:16:12. > :16:19.few layers go down. Grab your fish, make sure it is nice and crispy.
:16:20. > :16:24.Then I put on the salsa like so... There is one of our bass with sass.
:16:25. > :16:29.That is beautiful. Well, I'm sold. What about
:16:30. > :16:36.anti-batter Andy? This is modern fish and chips. But it is way better
:16:37. > :16:40.than the standard cod and chips. But I still don't see it should be in
:16:41. > :16:46.batter and deep fried. Andy is still a sceptic. What do the
:16:47. > :16:47.locals think? Let's take them to the streets to see if trendy overtakes
:16:48. > :17:01.the traditional! I like that. Better than mushy peas,
:17:02. > :17:10.any day! I think it's a seriously delicious bite. Thanks a lot. You
:17:11. > :17:16.don't feel so guilty eating it. With this, it is lettece, you feel
:17:17. > :17:19.healthy. Is the chippy dead? With business know-how, there 's life in
:17:20. > :17:27.it yet. Well, that looks tasty. I love fish
:17:28. > :17:32.and chips. So do I! From one British classic to another, Bananarama are
:17:33. > :17:37.back together. They sold 40 million records and
:17:38. > :17:42.became the girl group with the most chart singles of all times. Like
:17:43. > :17:50.huge... No-one else has been going as long. Siobhan, what will the tour
:17:51. > :17:57.be like? So far 16 dates. All theatres around the UK. It will be a
:17:58. > :18:03.band and us and... And a party. And a big old party. All our old hits,
:18:04. > :18:14.but lots of surprises as well. Back in the heyday you were very, very,
:18:15. > :18:19.you know you were very much in control of the music of the long. A
:18:20. > :18:24.lot of manufactured bands are shaped and moulded.
:18:25. > :18:29.What do you mean? I didn't say a thing! Is that level of control
:18:30. > :18:33.still very important to you guys? That came naturally to us. We formed
:18:34. > :18:37.a group and wanted to write our own material. There was no other way for
:18:38. > :18:44.us to do it. That has not changed at all. There was not an option
:18:45. > :18:48.otherwise. We were opinionated, it sometimes got termed as awkward,
:18:49. > :18:56.because we are girls. It happens with lads as well. I am glad to hear
:18:57. > :19:00.that. I think in the '80s the music business was different. It was
:19:01. > :19:04.virtually all men. I am not sure they understood us. We were quite
:19:05. > :19:10.young and knew what we wanted. Defiant.
:19:11. > :19:16.Wilful. All good words. You know how hard it is being on the road,
:19:17. > :19:22.hotels, you've got kids now - how are you approaching that? Our kids
:19:23. > :19:27.are grown up, which makes it easier. It feels a new lease of life. We've
:19:28. > :19:31.got Siobhan back. It is exciting. So back in that bubble. It is like
:19:32. > :19:36.going on a school trip. I have never done it... At last I get to perform
:19:37. > :19:40.all those records we made. We spent so much of the last couple of weeks
:19:41. > :19:46.just giggling. When I got back with the lads and I had not seen them for
:19:47. > :19:52.five or six years - it was like nothing had changed. The same stupid
:19:53. > :19:58.jokes... In-jokes. That no-one else gets. We saw people celebrating your
:19:59. > :20:02.music, having connections. There is a feel for the stuff. Are there any
:20:03. > :20:08.particular tracks you cannot wait to get into? It is hard to choose. It
:20:09. > :20:13.is hard to choose. We have been touring for the last 20 years. We
:20:14. > :20:26.are used to being on stage. None you are sick and tired of Yeltsin? --
:20:27. > :20:29.tires of yet? Siobhan was so nervous that I had
:20:30. > :20:33.gone through it again and again in the dressing room and then I went
:20:34. > :20:39.wrong. It is so typical.
:20:40. > :20:45.And Siobhan was perfect. Apart from the classics what about
:20:46. > :20:51.any new music? We are hoping... On the tour. We haven't got plans to do
:20:52. > :20:56.an album because we have not left ourselves enough time. That will
:20:57. > :21:01.come. That will follow. Let's have a little bit of a reminisce when you
:21:02. > :21:09.did the band aid single. What was that day like? Such an iconic image
:21:10. > :21:23.when you look back. We kind of shared an a offer with Bob Geldof.
:21:24. > :21:29.He said come to the studio. We're had a heavy night out.
:21:30. > :21:35.There was Bono... Stop dropping names! We were the only girls other
:21:36. > :21:39.than Shalama. Which I find extraordinary. We didn't know there
:21:40. > :21:44.would be cameras or anything. You looked fab. The tour starts 12th
:21:45. > :21:52.November. I'll be going. I'll be there. We are doubly blessed with
:21:53. > :21:55.musical talent. Shortly the Cranberries will perform Linger as
:21:56. > :21:57.you have never heard it before. First the chance to swim with seals
:21:58. > :22:08.and you don't even have to get wet! Prepare yourself for a One Show
:22:09. > :22:11.first. Imagine a piece of technology that
:22:12. > :22:14.could transport you to another world.
:22:15. > :22:25.Surround you with nature, all from the comfort of your living room.
:22:26. > :22:31.Well, this is it. It's a 360-degree camera and films
:22:32. > :22:36.side to side, front and back all at the same time. The cameras are
:22:37. > :22:42.protected by a water-tight Perspex dome. To enjoy the results from this
:22:43. > :22:48.camera requires more than a TV. For the full imher sieve viewing
:22:49. > :22:53.experience you need a set of these - put them on, what I am seeing is
:22:54. > :23:00.just incredible. I am using a smartphone clipped into
:23:01. > :23:06.a headset. This is a 360 film made for Plan et Earth II. You can look
:23:07. > :23:11.at the image in any direction. It is as if I am using the camera
:23:12. > :23:17.myself. I am turning the camera myself. We are going to make our own
:23:18. > :23:23.One Show 360 degree film. Right here in Blighty. I am heading to the farn
:23:24. > :23:29.Isles off the coast of Northumberland. Home to over 4,000
:23:30. > :23:34.grey seals. The quarter-tonne females are having their pups so
:23:35. > :23:41.there should be a lot of seals and plenty of activity. My guide is seal
:23:42. > :23:46.expert Ben. This is my new shiny bit of kit. What will the seals like of
:23:47. > :23:51.this They are such different characters, some are bold, some are
:23:52. > :23:57.weary. It depends which seals we meet today under water.
:23:58. > :24:02.Stay close... We need a stable footing for the camera. Shallow
:24:03. > :24:07.enough for light to film, but deep enough for the seals to feel
:24:08. > :24:12.comfortable. We like a challenge, don't we, on The One Show? This is a
:24:13. > :24:16.very good spot. And the water seems to be clearing. Now we just have to
:24:17. > :24:24.wait and hope the seals come to check us out.
:24:25. > :24:30.Here, look, look... Lovely! Look at them coming around. Wow!
:24:31. > :24:36.The seal's strategy is to approach from behind, so we cannot see them.
:24:37. > :24:37.But the 360-degree camera should capture everything.
:24:38. > :24:47.Right behind you. Everywhere you turn, there are
:24:48. > :24:51.seals. This is absolutely magnificent. These shots are from
:24:52. > :24:57.our conventional underwater camera. But we still manage to capture some
:24:58. > :25:06.incredible seal behaviour. Now it is time to head to the
:25:07. > :25:12.surface to see what 360-degree camera has captured. Footage from
:25:13. > :25:16.all six cameras have been digitally knitted together by our specialist.
:25:17. > :25:26.I am using a special headset so you can see what I'm seeing.
:25:27. > :25:29.Wow! Look at that! Immediately, it feels like a very different
:25:30. > :25:33.experience from viewing standard footage. You can almost feel the
:25:34. > :25:37.weight of the sea sort of weighing down on you. It's just like being
:25:38. > :25:42.there, but not being cold and not being wet.
:25:43. > :25:46.There's a seal over there. Look! And oh, look! There's one right down
:25:47. > :25:50.there. There's no hiding from a 360-degree
:25:51. > :26:04.camera! That seal film is available via The
:26:05. > :26:12.One Show website. Thank you. Woody Harrelson is here on Monday.
:26:13. > :26:31.Now with Linger, it's the Cranberries.
:26:32. > :26:40.# If you, if you could return # Don't let it burn
:26:41. > :26:45.# Don't let it fade # I'm sure I'm not being rude
:26:46. > :26:49.# But it's just your attitude # It's tearing me apart
:26:50. > :26:53.# It's ruining every day # And I swore
:26:54. > :27:01.# I swore I would be true # And honey, so did you
:27:02. > :27:05.# So why were you holding her hand # Is that the way we stand
:27:06. > :27:12.# Were you lying all the time # Was it just a game to you
:27:13. > :27:21.# But I'm in so deep # You know I'm such a fool for you
:27:22. > :27:25.# You've got me wrapped around your finger
:27:26. > :27:40.# Do you have to let it linger # Do you have to let it linger
:27:41. > :27:46.# Oh, I thought the world of you # I thought nothing could go wrong
:27:47. > :27:52.# But I was wrong # I was wrong
:27:53. > :27:59.# If you, if you could get by # Trying not to lie
:28:00. > :28:04.# Things wouldn't be so confused # And I wouldn't feel so used
:28:05. > :28:11.# But you always really knew # I just want to be with you
:28:12. > :28:21.# And I'm in so deep # You know I'm such a fool for you
:28:22. > :28:23.# You've got me wrapped around your finger
:28:24. > :28:26.# Do you have to let it linger # Do you have to
:28:27. > :28:37.# Do There'll be a couple of hours of
:28:38. > :29:09.just fantastic music, really, all the Ella classics, as well as
:29:10. > :29:12.some very special guests, we have Mica Paris, Imelda May,
:29:13. > :29:16.Dame Cleo Laine