:00:27. > :00:31.with Matt Baker and Alex Jones. years ago, tonight's guest decided
:00:31. > :00:37.he wanted to become a pig farmer and millions watched him on Jimmy's
:00:37. > :00:46.Farm. Since then, he's rarely been off our screens, tackling
:00:46. > :00:56.supermarkets or challenging Gwyneth Paltrow to a game of Chubby Bunny.
:00:56. > :00:57.
:00:58. > :01:07.Every time you put one in your mouth you have to say chubby bunny. She's
:01:07. > :01:13.done it! Please, welcome, Jimmy Doherty. It's such a weird voice.
:01:13. > :01:20.was. What was the outcome? I thought I was leading. But that woman can
:01:20. > :01:26.put them away, I can tell you. she? Yes. Any idea how many? I did
:01:26. > :01:30.about seven and I think she did around 12, something like that. She
:01:30. > :01:35.- because she is really love and slim in the fashingS but she was
:01:35. > :01:39.tucking them away, bang, bang, bang. It was pretty grim coming out back
:01:39. > :01:43.out again to count them. Let's not talk about them. Let's talk about
:01:43. > :01:48.the farm. How are things? All very good. We have lots of pigs on the
:01:49. > :01:52.farm. The Essex pig - there's one of them there - a big love for me,
:01:52. > :01:59.because being from Essex I love the breed of pig. What happened is there
:01:59. > :02:04.are two breeds of pig, one is the Wessex and the Essex pig and in 1967
:02:04. > :02:08.they were brought together, but four bloodlines exist of the pure Essex
:02:08. > :02:17.so it made sense to me to try to track them down and make the most of
:02:17. > :02:21.them. Things have gone well then? Yes. We could talk about farming all
:02:21. > :02:27.night. I don't know, I like talking about Essex pigs. It's my favourite
:02:27. > :02:33.topic. We have been there for ten years. We have the Essex, but
:02:33. > :02:37.British saddlebacks and Tamworths. A tropical butterfly house. There's
:02:37. > :02:40.the farm shop, restaurant and we have a big petting area and I think
:02:40. > :02:47.that's really important for children to get among it. Rabbit hill, you
:02:47. > :02:50.have? No, guinea pig village.Sorry. Get it right. The thing about the
:02:50. > :02:53.tropical butterfly house is kids come in and see them from all around
:02:53. > :02:58.the world, but when they leave they understand about the importance of
:02:58. > :03:02.insects to farming and how important it is to protect them. We'll talk
:03:02. > :03:07.about it later on. First, we are going to kick off with a story of
:03:07. > :03:17.eight children, one dedicated dad and a handbook written by a
:03:17. > :03:20.
:03:21. > :03:30.marvellous mum. It's time to meet the Milnthorpes. Comen, bedtime.
:03:31. > :03:33.
:03:33. > :03:40.-- comen, bedtime. Ian has come to see the family. Things always
:03:40. > :03:46.haven't run as smoothly in the house. Ian met his wife Angie in
:03:46. > :03:51.1976 in their home village in Yorkshire. We got married in 1985.
:03:51. > :03:55.She always said that after we get married we wanted to start a big
:03:55. > :03:59.family. We run our family traditional like our parents did. I
:03:59. > :04:09.went to work, working long hour underground and she stayed at home
:04:09. > :04:11.
:04:11. > :04:16.and looked after the children. 2007, aged just 46, Angie fell
:04:16. > :04:20.terminally ill with cancer. thought about it straightaway and
:04:21. > :04:25.then she looked at me and I could see the fear in her eyes, but no
:04:25. > :04:29.tiers and she put her arms around me. From there on, Angie had just
:04:29. > :04:37.one mission - to make sure Ian and their children would cope when she
:04:37. > :04:43.was gone. One morning she shouted me in the kitchen. She wanted me to
:04:43. > :04:51.look. Just watch how I do this. For something like me, doing hair is
:04:51. > :04:55.like working with sawdust. I looked at her. She said, "One day you'll
:04:55. > :04:58.have to learn to do that yourself." I realised what she was talking
:04:59. > :05:06.about, that when she dies I would have to do it. She started showing
:05:06. > :05:10.me how to make the special meals that the kids loved and how to bake.
:05:11. > :05:14.She didn't want me forgetting the kids' birthdays. She pulled out a
:05:15. > :05:22.note book and wrote them all down and when I looked down, she had
:05:22. > :05:27.wrote down all the list. She wanted me - things she didn't show me, but
:05:27. > :05:32.things I wanted to know. Check their hair regular while they're at school
:05:32. > :05:42.for knits. Don't leave iron too hot for shirts because I burnt one last
:05:42. > :05:49.
:05:49. > :05:52.year. Number seven, don't leave in bath alone. It's almost three years
:05:52. > :05:57.since Angie passed away and the family are still learning to cope
:05:57. > :06:04.without her. When I started doing this I were really finding it a
:06:04. > :06:14.struggle. I was burning toast and cornflakes were soggy. I've burnt
:06:14. > :06:14.
:06:14. > :06:18.that one. The children like to help too. Today, the family are
:06:18. > :06:27.remembering Angie at a bench and plaque that's been put up in her
:06:27. > :06:34.memory at her favourite place, this bay. See if you can pick it out. No,
:06:34. > :06:37.that is your nana's. It's that one. Angie's list has helped me a lot,
:06:37. > :06:41.mentally and physically. Sometimes I've just felt like breaking down
:06:41. > :06:44.and crying when things have got really hard and I've sat down and
:06:44. > :06:47.stopped feeling sorry for myself and I think about her in last six
:06:47. > :06:54.months, how she was determined to make sure I could look after them
:06:54. > :06:58.kids. What was she like, your mam? Always laughing. Always laughing. A
:06:58. > :07:03.big, massive laugh. It does make me feel proud that I'm looking after
:07:03. > :07:09.the kids and I can see them enjoying themselves and getting back on with
:07:09. > :07:14.their lives and that's what Angie would have wanted. Ian's got a book
:07:14. > :07:18.out and it's called Mum's Way. It's out now and it might be a nice
:07:18. > :07:25.present for Father's Day which is 16th June. Sorry. We'll talk about
:07:25. > :07:32.the second series of Food Unwrapped, which explains the food -- which
:07:32. > :07:37.explains why we buy the food we do. You phone the customer services and
:07:37. > :07:41.you phone them and ask whether you can eat mouldy bread. Is it OK to
:07:41. > :07:50.pick that off and eat the bread? don't think so. I don't know. I
:07:50. > :07:56.would advise not to consume it though. My kid sister does the same
:07:56. > :08:05.as you. Cuts it off. And toast it. Is that the same mould that you'll
:08:05. > :08:12.find in sill tonne? What type of mould? Things that go with cheese as
:08:12. > :08:17.well. A bit of cheddar. Where does the enquiries lead from there,
:08:17. > :08:20.because I guess they didn't know. It's an interesting way to start the
:08:20. > :08:27.programme, because on the back of packets is the helpline and you
:08:27. > :08:31.think if you ring up what will they say. They've got a very good way of
:08:31. > :08:39.not necessarily avoiding things, but if you say oh, do you drink, no, I
:08:39. > :08:44.don't. Do you ate bread, no I don't eat bread. It was to ask simple
:08:44. > :08:52.questions, is bread OK to eat if it's mouldy? I always used to think
:08:53. > :08:56.as a student it was fine. No. No. Yeah. Never eat mouldy bread.
:08:56. > :09:03.eaten mouldy cheese. This got us thinking. We'll throw it out there.
:09:03. > :09:09.If you've got anything nasty growing in your fridge, put on some rub
:09:09. > :09:13.rubber gloves, fish it out and send us the pics. You can stay anonymous
:09:13. > :09:17.if you want to. Just food.We'll try to protect the guilty. What else are
:09:17. > :09:23.you looking at? There's a whole array of foods across the series. On
:09:23. > :09:27.the first episode, it is mouldy bread. We look at chicken kievs and
:09:27. > :09:33.storing apples. How do they store English apples to last almost a
:09:33. > :09:37.year, but it's fascinating, because the series is not necessarily about
:09:37. > :09:40.the air-dried foods, but the everyday food and how they're
:09:40. > :09:43.produced and the little tricks, because everyone wants to know about
:09:43. > :09:46.mass-produced food and it's not always negative. There are some
:09:46. > :09:50.fascinating sciences behind them. There was a little thing we were
:09:50. > :09:54.going to show, but we thought it was too gross to show at this time of
:09:54. > :10:00.night, about how the mould works it ways through, but it should be a
:10:00. > :10:07.good watch. It starts on Monday at 8. 30pm on Channel 4. We'll visit
:10:07. > :10:12.the childhood home of a champion. Nicola Adams, the first woman to
:10:12. > :10:18.first win Olympic gold. She went to Yorkshire, her first house where she
:10:18. > :10:25.beamed that famous smile. I'm Nicola Adams and I'm going back to the
:10:25. > :10:30.street in Leeds where I grew up. Dent Street, Richmond Hill, LS 9. I
:10:30. > :10:40.was born here and live here until I was ten with my mum, my brother and
:10:40. > :10:48.
:10:48. > :10:51.little brother used to play a lot in here and justed to jump from one
:10:51. > :10:58.sofa to the other and play little games and hide and seek and stuff,
:10:58. > :11:03.so it was really good fun. My love for boxing started in this house. My
:11:03. > :11:07.dad used to watch a lot of the big fights here, Frank Bruno and Mike
:11:07. > :11:11.Tyson and we would be bouncing around in front of the TV and told
:11:11. > :11:17.to sit down. I just absolutely loved it. I never thought for one second
:11:17. > :11:21.that I was actually going to grow up and be an Olympic champion one day.
:11:21. > :11:28.I've got a lot of good memories in this house and then a couple of bad
:11:28. > :11:35.ones as well. My mum and dad got divorce divorced just as we were
:11:35. > :11:40.moving out, so yeah, but most of the time good memories. The house was
:11:40. > :11:44.always busy. I would have a lot of uncles and cousins and friends
:11:44. > :11:48.coming around. I remember the Christmas dinners with the turkey
:11:49. > :11:53.and my mum used to put the toys that we weren't allowed to play with or
:11:53. > :11:57.the sweets or anything of interest, up on top of the cupboard up the top
:11:57. > :12:02.and me and my brother could gets the stools from underneath and he would
:12:02. > :12:06.hold me so I didn't fall and I would try to grab stuff. She probably
:12:06. > :12:13.still doesn't know we used to do this. My mum was the softer one and
:12:13. > :12:20.my dad was the strict one. It walls, "Wait until your dad gets back." Me
:12:20. > :12:30.and my brother would just sit there. There's only one place in the house
:12:30. > :12:31.
:12:31. > :12:36.that used to scare me and that was the cellar. It used to look so dark
:12:36. > :12:39.and scary and all the cob diveBs and the spiders. -- cobwebs and the
:12:39. > :12:44.spiders. I would get to this point and look around the corner and I was
:12:44. > :12:54.so afraid to go around that corner I would just go back up and I think I
:12:54. > :13:02.
:13:02. > :13:07.might go back up now! Wow. This feels strange being back in this
:13:07. > :13:14.room again. Me and my brother sharing this room, it was OK. I was
:13:14. > :13:17.in charge, so it was all right. Me and my brother have always been
:13:17. > :13:23.really close to each other. He was always like my little shadow.
:13:23. > :13:28.Wherever I went, he went. But I looked after him and he sometimes
:13:28. > :13:36.looked at me. I can see over the top of this gate now. I never used to be
:13:36. > :13:45.able to do that when I lived here. The area was quite rough. There was
:13:45. > :13:55.a lot of cars being stolen and drove up and down. I used to love getting
:13:55. > :13:55.
:13:56. > :14:00.on my bike and going up to the BMX track. This was the hill where it
:14:00. > :14:05.would make you or break you. It was almost like an initiation. The first
:14:05. > :14:10.time I got down there pretty OK. The second time I did it I wobbled and I
:14:10. > :14:15.come off and bust me lip. That didn't deter me. I still went down
:14:15. > :14:20.again and again and again. It didn't really matter what was going on
:14:20. > :14:24.outside in the area. Once I was in the home I had my mum, dad and
:14:24. > :14:34.brother and everything was OK. Just being able to spend time with my
:14:34. > :14:34.
:14:34. > :14:40.family and have fun, you can always get through anything. How infectious
:14:40. > :14:44.is that smile? Even the scary cellar. BMWing away. -- beaming
:14:45. > :14:49.away. Jimmy, you had a special friend that you still work with and
:14:49. > :14:56.you are still mates, Jamie Oliver. We have got a superb picture of you
:14:57. > :15:02.two. Here it is. Oh, yes. That's right. That's around my house. He
:15:02. > :15:07.always stays over. This one's pretty good. Look at those curtains.How
:15:07. > :15:13.old were you there in We must have been 16. Look at the beads around
:15:13. > :15:17.the neck. Lovely. What is the naughtiest thing you've got up to?
:15:17. > :15:21.We were the annoying kids that were pretty naughty at school, but
:15:21. > :15:25.somehow got away with it. We would sweet-talk the teacher. One of the
:15:25. > :15:28.naughtiest things he ever did, his dad has quite a good pub and
:15:28. > :15:32.restaurant in the village, and Jamie bought the stink bombs and threw
:15:32. > :15:38.them outside all over the place, but then trod them all the way in
:15:38. > :15:43.through the pub on a busy Sunday lunch. He got told off. Right, on we
:15:44. > :15:47.go. It's rare that a medicine becomes a buzz word for a generation
:15:47. > :15:52.but that is true of pro-Zac. Since it was launched 25 years ago it's
:15:52. > :15:56.featured in best-selling books to even Blur lyrics. Here some of those
:15:56. > :16:06.who have predescribed the so-called wonder drug talk about the Fame
:16:06. > :16:07.
:16:07. > :16:12.Academy it's had on their lives candidly. It's my drug of choice. It
:16:12. > :16:18.was a real relief to have an answer to something that had really been a
:16:18. > :16:28.big problem to me. Prozac is a By-word for a fix. It's not the
:16:28. > :16:31.
:16:31. > :16:40.wonder drug that it's made out to be. Depression feels like being the
:16:40. > :16:45.bottom of a big, black hole and when I've had it really, really bad,
:16:45. > :16:51.unable to even get up out of bed, not wanting to do anything, no
:16:51. > :16:56.interest in anything, but when I'm taking Prozac that all goes away.
:16:56. > :17:04.I've been on it about 22 years, so I must have been one of the first
:17:04. > :17:09.people to try the drug. If I don't take it then my husband usually says
:17:09. > :17:14.kwoshingS "Are you take -- "Are you taking your tablets?" And I say,
:17:14. > :17:19."No, I haven't taken them for a little while." He wants me to take
:17:19. > :17:23.them because he can see a difference. If I'm addicted I'm not
:17:23. > :17:33.bothered. It definitely, definitely helps me to face the day and live a
:17:33. > :17:37.
:17:37. > :17:44.far better life. It's incredibly popular. I can't think of a single
:17:44. > :17:48.GP who's never prodescribed it. It is used for PMT and migrain and
:17:48. > :17:54.chronic pain and that means the amount we are using has rapidly
:17:54. > :18:00.increased. The best practice of anyone who presents with symptoms of
:18:00. > :18:04.depression or anxiety. We could try to persuade them for cowsling or CBT
:18:04. > :18:14.that works really well and there's no side effects of talkative
:18:14. > :18:20.therapies. My daughter Caitlin was going through what I can only call
:18:20. > :18:25.to this day typical teenage angst. She had been to America and found
:18:25. > :18:29.out there was this drug Prozac and you get it here for free and she
:18:29. > :18:39.went to the GP and said he was suffering exam frights and boyfriend
:18:39. > :18:45.problems and arguing with mum and she took it for 63 days. But 63 days
:18:45. > :18:53.later she took the horse's lunge rope and put it over the beam in the
:18:53. > :18:59.guest bedroom and hanged herself. She left a note. In the note she
:18:59. > :19:08.declared that she loved everybody forever but she thought everybody
:19:08. > :19:13.hated her and we lost her. In the early days after her death I
:19:13. > :19:18.resorted to anti-depressants for complex reasons. And I found that I
:19:18. > :19:24.did not feel good and I would sit in front of the television like a
:19:24. > :19:34.zombie and my partner would say, "It's time for bed." I just did
:19:34. > :19:42.
:19:42. > :19:47.nothing. I did go off them very get out of the house and meet people
:19:47. > :19:53.and to resume some sense of normality. I do believe that
:19:53. > :19:56.medication has a place in treat treating mental health and
:19:56. > :19:59.particularly depression, from my experience, but it absolutely has to
:19:59. > :20:05.be in conjunction with other things and for me that was seeing a
:20:05. > :20:08.therapist. It was about becoming engaged in meaningful activity and
:20:08. > :20:15.building relationships with people. You need to take time for things to
:20:15. > :20:21.happen. There's a natural pace in the world that you can't alter.
:20:21. > :20:27.such a common drug that people ask for it by brand and that's probably
:20:27. > :20:34.got a lot to do with the branding and marketing. I understand that
:20:34. > :20:36.some people do have great benefit from the drugs, but what I hope they
:20:36. > :20:38.know is they are also very power powerful, mind-altering drugs.
:20:38. > :20:46.wouldn't dream of going off it, because I know that it keeps me on
:20:46. > :20:51.an even keel. We have had some sad stories on the show. Dr Sarah Jarvis
:20:51. > :20:55.is here. Taking everything into account, it has been quite a success
:20:55. > :20:59.story? Anything that was going to offer help to people with depression
:20:59. > :21:04.was going to be a help. It wasn't the first anti-depressant. There
:21:04. > :21:10.were lots, but this was the first of a new family of drugs called the
:21:10. > :21:14.SSRIs and it was the first time that there were drugs that would treat
:21:14. > :21:20.depression for some, but didn't have so many side effects. The cure was
:21:20. > :21:24.almost worse than the condition. These days, I rarely predescribe it
:21:24. > :21:28.-- prescribe it because there are others on the market and we have to
:21:28. > :21:31.think about money on the NHS, but we have to bear in mind it has changed
:21:31. > :21:36.the culture and there are always risks. They started off with the
:21:36. > :21:41.great bang and they were the wonder drug and we started to worry where
:21:41. > :21:44.they increasing the risk some people of feeling suicidal. People who are
:21:44. > :21:51.depressed are at risk with that, it goes with the territory. The
:21:51. > :21:57.manufacturers have asked us to point out that in 1991 an American drugs
:21:57. > :22:02.administration panel said that there was no credible evidence to link
:22:02. > :22:07.anti-depressants, including Prozac with suicide suicidal behaviour.
:22:07. > :22:10.Would you be concerned with someone being on it for 22 years? I don't
:22:10. > :22:14.think she is dependent on it, but what we need to bear in mind when
:22:14. > :22:16.doctors talk about addiction they talks about valium and sleeping
:22:16. > :22:19.tablets, which we hate giving, because we know the more you take
:22:19. > :22:23.them the more you need to get the same effect and if you don't take
:22:23. > :22:28.them you crave them. I wouldn't recommend to anybody that they be on
:22:28. > :22:32.them for routinely, but if your life has been revolutionised by them, on
:22:32. > :22:35.an individual basis they may need them long term. Thank you. If you
:22:35. > :22:43.are affected by this and you need more information there are some
:22:43. > :22:47.links on the website. Now, whilst some of us enjoyed the Bank Holiday
:22:47. > :22:52.weekend, for others in the west it was rainy old business as usual.
:22:52. > :22:59.This was the picture of the UK at around 3. 3.15pm. I mean, seriously.
:22:59. > :23:03.It's liked there's a massive bucket of water over it. The last thing is
:23:03. > :23:09.we need for some smarty-pants science presenter to go and make
:23:09. > :23:15.more clouds. Whoops!Clouds - they are all too visible on most days in
:23:16. > :23:21.Britain. And they come in all shapes and sizes. But why are clouds clouds
:23:21. > :23:26.and can we make a spectacular one ourselves? All clouds are basically
:23:26. > :23:31.made when warm air rises and hits cold air. Cooling and condensing
:23:31. > :23:36.water vapour in the sky on to tiny particles in the atmosphere. Things
:23:36. > :23:40.like dust, or pollen and that makes water droplets and as they grow,
:23:40. > :23:47.they eventually become visible and when seen en masse, that's what we
:23:47. > :23:52.know of as clouds. The amount of water vapour, height, treple tour,
:23:52. > :23:57.air pressure and movement determines what type of cloud is created. The
:23:57. > :24:03.puffy white cumulus are made from pockets of rising air, but they
:24:03. > :24:07.don't always have to appear in the sky. You have heard of a ship in a
:24:07. > :24:11.bottle, but this is cloud in a bottle. You need the same three
:24:11. > :24:16.things that you need to make a real one, water vapour, there is some
:24:16. > :24:20.water in here. Shake it up. We need dust particles for the water to
:24:20. > :24:26.begin to condense on. There's dust in the air all around, so it's
:24:26. > :24:30.already in there. The last thing to do is cool the water vapour and for
:24:30. > :24:40.that, you pump air into the bottle and then release the pressure
:24:40. > :24:45.
:24:46. > :24:50.quickly. Look at that! Cloud in a bottle. But that's not a small --
:24:50. > :24:56.but that's on a small scale. I think we can go bigger. Over last year,
:24:56. > :25:01.one artist has been making clouds indoors. Hovering inside unusual
:25:01. > :25:07.spaces. They are then photographed. But he's always on the lookout for
:25:07. > :25:11.the next ideal cloud-making location. He needs cold, damp,
:25:11. > :25:20.darkness, which is why I've come into the bowels of the earth to this
:25:20. > :25:26.old, underground prison in the heart of London. The house of detention
:25:26. > :25:35.has been a prison since the 17th century. And the latest inmate is
:25:35. > :25:39.Dutch art Bertrand. Why did you want to make the clouds in the first
:25:40. > :25:43.place? People have projected so many ideas on them for centuries already
:25:43. > :25:46.and I had this idea of walking in an empty space with nothing around it
:25:46. > :25:53.and there was a cloud in one location and it would be confronted
:25:53. > :25:57.with that. To create the effect of his own puffy cloud, he uses a fog
:25:57. > :26:03.machine that pumps out a cloud of condensed water vapour, but on it's
:26:03. > :26:08.own that creates a foggy mist. To make a proper cloud he needs to get
:26:08. > :26:13.more water droplets into the air. What we are doing is spraying lots
:26:13. > :26:18.of water so that when we turn on the fog machine we'll get a bust of fog
:26:18. > :26:23.to hit that water. It will make it form a little cloud hopefully, which
:26:23. > :26:30.will then hang in the air just for a few seconds. It's the idea at least.
:26:30. > :26:34.He hopes to make the cold room to make the water droplets stick
:26:34. > :26:38.together to produce a thick cloud, just like it does outside, but as we
:26:38. > :26:48.are indoors, it will only last for a brief moment. There will have --
:26:48. > :26:52.they'll have to be quick to photograph it. Here We go. As the
:26:52. > :26:58.fog hits the droplets in the air an the cloud takes shape, the
:26:58. > :27:05.photographer is taking as many shots as he can, before it dissipates.
:27:05. > :27:11.Threw the fog -- through the fog, I think it worked. We made a cloud!
:27:11. > :27:17.But the proof will be in the picture. It's really good. I'm happy
:27:17. > :27:22.with that one. It looks like a proper, little cloud. It does, yeah.
:27:22. > :27:31.Just like in a real cloud, the darker areas are where the water is
:27:31. > :27:35.most dense. I'm so going to go home and get a cycle pump and a bottle
:27:35. > :27:39.and make a cloud. His hair looks like a big cloud. You have been
:27:39. > :27:45.looking at the weather and temperature and how it affects human
:27:45. > :27:49.behaviour. There is a new show out called Human Swarm and it's about
:27:49. > :27:52.our collective behaviour and how it changes when the weather changes and
:27:52. > :27:56.the unique thing about this, we have been studying human behaviour by
:27:56. > :28:00.looking at the data we leave behind through the wep sites we go on, if
:28:00. > :28:04.we use Twitter and using all the interesting data we can see how we
:28:04. > :28:07.behave and it's been remarkable. Talking about leaving data behind or
:28:07. > :28:10.forgetting to throw it away, we asked you for your mouldy
:28:10. > :28:17.photographs to see what life dporms you've been cultivating in the
:28:17. > :28:22.kitchens. You haven't disappointed. One from your fridge, Matt. This is
:28:22. > :28:31.from Samantha Butler from Dorset and this has put her off eating pasta.
:28:31. > :28:37.It matches my jumper. This is from Martin in Port Call. An average
:28:37. > :28:42.grape fruit from Vanesssa. It's a lovely one. That needs to go to the
:28:42. > :28:46.bin. That's all we have time for. Good luck with Food Unwrapped and