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:00:12. > :00:20.I need you to come with me. I need to go for cocktails with Andrew

:00:21. > :00:24.Lloyd Webber. I need you to do the One SHow with me.

:00:25. > :00:26.# That changes everything... #.

:00:27. > :00:37.Gethin! -- get in! ..and the very

:00:38. > :00:45.persuasive Alex Jones. Can I just say, yow right,

:00:46. > :00:49.Alex? I am, and I'm liking

:00:50. > :00:57.the brummie hello, Michael. I've been watching Peaky Blinders

:00:58. > :01:02.and I'm getting ready for to night's gets. It is set in Birmingham, where

:01:03. > :01:10.I was born. That is the Michael Ball fact of the day. I look forward to

:01:11. > :01:16.tomorrow. Let's introduce guest, the star of Peaky Blinders, as well as

:01:17. > :01:22.films like the Queen and Skyfall. Please welcome Helen McCrory. Good

:01:23. > :01:25.to see you. We will come to Peaky Blinders, but Michael and I have

:01:26. > :01:31.been discussing our bank holiday plans. We don't have anything, do

:01:32. > :01:39.we? Nothing. Have you got it nailed down for this weekend? We do, he is

:01:40. > :01:45.flying back, Damien, from Washington to play football, England against

:01:46. > :01:52.Germany. I'm taking the kids down, a day of school. It's the 1966

:01:53. > :02:04.anniversary. Yes. The last time we won. As long as you don't ask me to

:02:05. > :02:07.play, I'm their! Also want a night's show, Travis are back.

:02:08. > :02:23.No, no, they aren't moaning about rain any more. They are all chirpy.

:02:24. > :02:29.Hello, Travis. I'm from musical theatre and I can spot a fake smile

:02:30. > :02:36.- are you genuinely happy? Absolutely, genuinely happy.

:02:37. > :02:40.Delighted. It's freezing out there. We will hear their joyful sound

:02:41. > :02:45.later when they perform their brand-new track, called Magnificent

:02:46. > :02:48.Time. We have been playing it on Radio 2.

:02:49. > :02:52.Now, Peaky Blinders, if you haven't seen it, you're missing out. It is

:02:53. > :02:58.about an interim is Birmingham gang that run riot through the city at

:02:59. > :03:05.the turn of the 20th century. -- and infamous Birmingham gang.

:03:06. > :03:10.Against the backdrop of poverty in slums after the First World War,

:03:11. > :03:15.Peaky Blinders follows the exploits of a gang of villains led by Thomas

:03:16. > :03:21.Shelby who extorted and bullied their way around a good's second

:03:22. > :03:30.city. Not since the soap Crossroads has Birmingham been portrayed as the

:03:31. > :03:34.Centre for gang violence. But who were the real Peaky Blinders and RB

:03:35. > :03:47.really as bad as they were portrayed? -- are they really? This

:03:48. > :03:54.local historian knows about them. There were gangs in all of the

:03:55. > :03:58.backstreets, known as sluggers. In the 1890s, a new name emerged for

:03:59. > :04:04.the gangs, they were called Peaky Blinders. Where did that name come

:04:05. > :04:08.from? There is a myth that the name comes from the fact that they sowed

:04:09. > :04:12.razor blade into the peaks of their caps and they used them when they

:04:13. > :04:25.fought. It is unfeasible. Try to do it. I have it on good authority that

:04:26. > :04:30.you're related to one of them. My great-grandfather was one of them. I

:04:31. > :04:35.am not particularly proud of it. He was a horrible, nasty, violent man

:04:36. > :04:38.who was always in prison from a young age. Police records and

:04:39. > :04:44.mugshots of the Peaky Blinders still exist. This looks like a bad episode

:04:45. > :04:50.of Crimewatch. When you look at these blokes, they look like wrong

:04:51. > :04:55.ones. No two ways about it. But they were really petty criminals, one

:04:56. > :04:59.pay? They weren't gangsters of national notoriety like we see in

:05:00. > :05:05.the series. They were villains, violent men and petty criminals.

:05:06. > :05:10.They are not top gangsters as we see in the series. But some of the

:05:11. > :05:18.characters that we see actually existed. That's true, isn't it? Like

:05:19. > :05:25.Billy. I'm Billy Kemper. I'm going to have you shot against a post. --

:05:26. > :05:29.Billy Kimber. He was depicted as a gangster from London who ran

:05:30. > :05:34.protection rackets. The real one was a Brummie who was broad set, tall

:05:35. > :05:43.and powerful. He was the most feared fighter in England. He moved quickly

:05:44. > :05:48.to being the leader of the most feared gang at the beginning of

:05:49. > :05:53.gangland history in England. Much of the filming for Peaky Blinders takes

:05:54. > :05:58.place here at the Black Country Living museum. Steve Knight is the

:05:59. > :06:02.programme's creator, and it is his own family's stories that gave him

:06:03. > :06:10.inspiration to write the series. I have wanted to do it since I was a

:06:11. > :06:18.kid. It was stories that were told by my parents. My dad's uncles told

:06:19. > :06:22.stories. One of them, when he was a kid, was told to go and give a

:06:23. > :06:27.message. When he got there, he said he opened the door and there were

:06:28. > :06:32.ten men sitting around, the table covered in money, drinking beer from

:06:33. > :06:38.jam jars. They were using children as runners for taking bets. My mum

:06:39. > :06:43.was a bookie's runner. They told me stories that they had seen through

:06:44. > :06:47.children's guys. They told them to me and they became doubly

:06:48. > :06:54.mythologised. Give us the lowdown on series three. Very few facts. There

:06:55. > :06:58.is an international element. Paddy Considine is possibly the most evil

:06:59. > :07:03.character who has ever been in Peaky Blinders. It starts with Tommy

:07:04. > :07:09.Shelby getting married. To whom? A woman. As for the real Peaky

:07:10. > :07:14.Blinders, the gangs were eventually taken down by the police, and with

:07:15. > :07:18.tougher sentencing and social changes, these villains all but

:07:19. > :07:22.disappeared. There is no doubt that these men in peak caps have earned

:07:23. > :07:27.their notoriety in history thanks to the series. But the real stories

:07:28. > :07:33.behind the Peaky Blinders are just as compelling and dramatic as the

:07:34. > :07:42.ones you see on-screen. Great film, that. Did you know about

:07:43. > :07:46.the original history? That's great, that's my research for series format

:07:47. > :07:51.right there. That's fantastic. It's amazing, isn't it? Yes. Let's talk

:07:52. > :07:56.about your character. She is the leader of the gang. Bring us up to

:07:57. > :08:00.speed for those who haven't seen it. You hold it all together. Peaky

:08:01. > :08:05.Blinders, the last time we saw them was two years ago. You have seen

:08:06. > :08:08.these criminals who run Birmingham as they become more powerful and

:08:09. > :08:14.they start moving out nationally across the country. Now, two years

:08:15. > :08:17.later, we see them with a lot more money, and now we're not just

:08:18. > :08:41.national, we're going international. AUDIENCE: Oooh! Good audience.

:08:42. > :08:45.Without giving away who Tommy is marrying, you have the Peaky

:08:46. > :08:49.Blinders on one side of the church, the officers on the other side of

:08:50. > :08:53.the church, which as we know, for the first time in the First World

:08:54. > :08:57.War, they had fought cheek by Jarrold. The friction and

:08:58. > :09:09.understanding that was there, -- cheek by jowl. Episode one has just

:09:10. > :09:13.made the whole series epic. It has blown it up. It looks extraordinary.

:09:14. > :09:16.It looks like a big budget production, which I guess is why it

:09:17. > :09:21.has been such an international hit. It was big in the UK, but

:09:22. > :09:28.internationally, and you have so many fans, important people. Tom

:09:29. > :09:41.Cruise, Julia Roberts, Snoop Doggy Dogg. Big fans. That is hilarious.

:09:42. > :09:45.I'm down with that. I think it's because Steve wasn't frightened and

:09:46. > :09:49.apologising. So often, we see the upper classes being mythologised,

:09:50. > :09:54.but we don't hear about 95% of the rest of the country that was keeping

:09:55. > :10:01.these people in their houses, and this is what Peaky Blinders does. My

:10:02. > :10:04.character is a petty criminal but she is bright, and if she had had an

:10:05. > :10:09.education, she would have been running a business. She didn't, so

:10:10. > :10:14.this was the only part of the one she could dominate, and my God, she

:10:15. > :10:19.did. As you said, the first series is two years ahead. We will set the

:10:20. > :10:29.scene. The matriarch of the gang is Polly, Cillian is there, and they

:10:30. > :10:33.have moved to a mansion. Here is Polly chatting to a potential suitor

:10:34. > :10:41.who, like everyone else, comes with serious baggage.

:10:42. > :10:49.You have to tell me the reason or I won't be able to trust you. The

:10:50. > :10:57.truth is... I slept with the wife of one of the kernels. But that was 12

:10:58. > :11:08.years ago. The aristocracy don't believe in forgiveness. Neither do

:11:09. > :11:15.the Shelbys. Really good cast. We mentioned

:11:16. > :11:19.Cillian Murphy, as it happens, Dougie from Travis knows him

:11:20. > :11:26.personally. If that right? What is the connection? It is true, yes.

:11:27. > :11:32.Absolutely true. Kelly and Cillian made a movie together, and we ended

:11:33. > :11:39.up living very close together in north London. He is a brilliant guy.

:11:40. > :11:46.On-screen, obviously, he is intense and scary - what is he like in real

:11:47. > :11:52.life? Does he buy a round? He is the coolest, loveliest guy, not scary.

:11:53. > :12:02.He's also an amazing actor. Helen,... Cheers, Dougie. We know

:12:03. > :12:06.you read here -- rehearsing The Deep Blue Sea. When do you open? Four

:12:07. > :12:10.weeks. I have been lying around on the sofa doing a different type of

:12:11. > :12:16.accent from the Brummie won, and then I talked to all the people who

:12:17. > :12:24.ought to be in The Deep Blue Sea. It is because you are a very good

:12:25. > :12:29.actress. We have some in the audience tonight. Sign them up.

:12:30. > :12:32.Peaky Blinders starts next Thursday at 9pm on BBC Two.

:12:33. > :12:37.Now from the Black Country to Belfast and a world-famous boxing

:12:38. > :12:39.champion. Here is how he got the fighting chance to stay out of

:12:40. > :12:41.trouble. I'm Carl Frampton, Super

:12:42. > :12:44.Bantamweight champion of the world. COMMENTATOR: Carl Frampton has been

:12:45. > :12:48.terrific in the last round, here. They say boxers have the eye

:12:49. > :13:00.of the tiger and I certainly do because I grew up

:13:01. > :13:03.in this neighbourhood - I'm still the same

:13:04. > :13:09.person about here. I maybe have to sign a few more

:13:10. > :13:21.autographs now and again! This is where I grew up,

:13:22. > :13:23.this is where I ran Played football against

:13:24. > :13:27.these walls here. It didn't seem like there was a lot

:13:28. > :13:30.to do but we always found a way to enjoy ourselves

:13:31. > :13:33.and make something fun. The object is, hit the kerb,

:13:34. > :13:42.or crib, and try to catch The two boys on the wall,

:13:43. > :13:47.Polo and Carn, they would have would have played football here,

:13:48. > :13:50.we would have played together. My dad would have killed me

:13:51. > :13:55.if he came out and saw my name spray-painted on the wall -

:13:56. > :13:58.that would have been the end of me. I lived at the top end

:13:59. > :14:02.of Tiger's Bay from about the first year of my life and we moved here,

:14:03. > :14:05.Canning Street, and I stayed here until I was about 21,

:14:06. > :14:07.I think. My bedroom was the front right

:14:08. > :14:15.and it was the smallest When I was a kid, I was very small

:14:16. > :14:24.and quiet and I sometimes got a bit I remember asking my mum to take me

:14:25. > :14:28.down to the boxing He has been involved in the club

:14:29. > :14:39.ever since I was involved, really. Carl came down as a seven-year-old

:14:40. > :14:44.and he took to it, he love it. Carl came down as a seven-year-old

:14:45. > :14:48.and he took to it, he loved it. So a couple of weeks

:14:49. > :14:51.after he started, he was boxing. I just don't run up and down

:14:52. > :14:56.and dance and scream and shout like people expect me to,

:14:57. > :14:58.but certainly I'm proud. This club means the world

:14:59. > :15:02.to me, honestly. Who knows which way I would have

:15:03. > :15:10.went if it wasn't for boxing. When I was about 14,

:15:11. > :15:12.15, 16, that sort of age, even on nights like this,

:15:13. > :15:17.when the rain is coming down, you were still hanging

:15:18. > :15:19.about around the park, They were probably my worst years,

:15:20. > :15:24.if I'm being honest, when I was about 16,

:15:25. > :15:26.17, that sort of age. When I was messing about and doing

:15:27. > :15:29.things at the weekend that A bit of drinking, chasing the girls

:15:30. > :15:38.and the cops used to come in every now and again and it was always good

:15:39. > :15:44.craic getting the chase off the cop. But I suppose when you grow up

:15:45. > :15:47.and you realise you're good at something, you want to put

:15:48. > :15:49.everything into it. And when I hit about 18,

:15:50. > :15:51.that's when I started to wise up and I got

:15:52. > :15:54.on the straight and narrow. I knew that you have one crack

:15:55. > :15:57.at this game and that is it, I wanted to have a go,

:15:58. > :16:00.a proper go. IBF and WBA world

:16:01. > :16:02.champion, Carl Frampton. This is a place very

:16:03. > :16:14.close to my heart. I've been coming here

:16:15. > :16:21.since it was going, So I've been coming here

:16:22. > :16:25.for a long time. I'm allowed to eat this -

:16:26. > :16:31.for a while, anyway. I love to come and get a portion

:16:32. > :16:36.of cod bites, a carton of curry. I was recently honoured with an MBE

:16:37. > :16:42.and it was a proud moment for me. The most nervous I have

:16:43. > :16:45.ever been in my life, Coming back here reminds me of just

:16:46. > :16:51.how well I have done over the years. If kids want to look at the picture

:16:52. > :16:55.of me on the wall and get a wee bit of inspiration from that,

:16:56. > :17:19.I think that's job well done. Friday night is fish and chip night,

:17:20. > :17:25.isn't it? Tiger Bay is where he was from in Belfast. Tigers Bay. Tiger

:17:26. > :17:30.Bay is your grandfather and here is the connection. This is a wonderful

:17:31. > :17:36.picture. Flyweight champion of Wales 1933, he went into the war, served

:17:37. > :17:44.in the RAF and then came out and went to Cardiff. And taught boys in

:17:45. > :17:51.a very disadvantaged area exactly as this man is doing. And he talked to

:17:52. > :17:54.me about the self-respect, you have to learn self-discipline, you must

:17:55. > :18:01.never fight in temper, the rule is never punch below the belt. Keeping

:18:02. > :18:07.yourself fit. I think it's fantastic and the thing this man is doing.

:18:08. > :18:13.Thank you for bringing this in. I'm very proud. In Peaky Blinders the

:18:14. > :18:18.odd bit of West Midlands slang creeps in. Alan, what we're going to

:18:19. > :18:22.do is find out how much of the local lingo you managed to pick up while

:18:23. > :18:27.you've been filming. I'm going to go over there and we'll play a game.

:18:28. > :18:36.You are staying here. It is called Speaky Blinders. I'm joined, I

:18:37. > :18:45.should say yam joined by three lads from the West Midlands. Nice to see

:18:46. > :18:48.you. James, Steve and Spoz. You are going to say a unique word you would

:18:49. > :18:53.say in your area then Helen and Michael have to guess what the word

:18:54. > :19:02.means to the rest of the country. Bostin' for example... Means good. I

:19:03. > :19:08.knew that, that's all right. You were an extra in Peaky Blinders. I

:19:09. > :19:14.was it was filmed at the Black Country Museum. I got involved. I

:19:15. > :19:20.was shovelling muck from one side of a platform to the other side. It was

:19:21. > :19:32.beautiful. The glamour. Give us your word. My word is gambol. Give us

:19:33. > :19:40.some context. I did a brilliant gambol at school today. Was James in

:19:41. > :19:46.art class or P, do you think? It sounds like gamble. I would go with

:19:47. > :20:01.PE. Bang on the money, Alex, it is PE. And its... A forward roll,

:20:02. > :20:05.roly-poly. You organise the festival for the Black Country. We do the

:20:06. > :20:09.festival, yeah. Birmingham tried to join but you weren't having any of

:20:10. > :20:18.it. We've got a rivalry with them, we'll keep them to decide. My word

:20:19. > :20:27.is Dubai. I watched one show last night and I was blarting. -- I

:20:28. > :20:37.watched the One Show. Was he used or upset, do you think? Crying. Upset?

:20:38. > :20:45.It is crying, isn't it? Three out of three. Very quickly, Spoz, ex-poet

:20:46. > :20:57.laureate for Birmingham. What is your word? My word is wrekin'. I was

:20:58. > :21:02.going round the wrekin'. Was he driving somewhere, in a fairground

:21:03. > :21:11.maybe? Wynne I don't know. Tell them. Driving. If you take the wrong

:21:12. > :21:13.turn, you are taking the long Way round. Three out of three is pretty

:21:14. > :21:22.good, well done. That is why we get the big Bucs.

:21:23. > :21:29.Now, the increasingly dark side of drones. Yes, those miniature

:21:30. > :21:33.helicopters and cameras appearing from nowhere, recording everything

:21:34. > :21:35.and you've no idea who is operating them or why. Question is, how do you

:21:36. > :21:47.stop them? It's not a gun, no, it's not a

:21:48. > :21:53.missile launcher, a drone catcher. Why would we need one of those? It

:21:54. > :21:59.seems not a week goes by without drones making the headlines. Their's

:22:00. > :22:06.evidence they are being used to deliver drugs and mobile phones into

:22:07. > :22:13.prisons. And the company that looks at near misses aside 18 incidents in

:22:14. > :22:16.the last six months. Drones do have a positive side, transporting

:22:17. > :22:23.medicine, inspecting oil rigs and monitoring wildlife. The problem is,

:22:24. > :22:30.sometimes drones malfunction and sometimes operators break the rules.

:22:31. > :22:34.It might mean they get arrested. So, what are the rules surrounding drone

:22:35. > :22:38.usage? Don't fly them within two miles of airports and air feels,

:22:39. > :22:43.don't fly them where there are lots of aircraft. Absolutely don't fly

:22:44. > :22:49.them over 400 feet. For them to be successful in future, people now

:22:50. > :22:52.need to operate them safely. But how do you go about stopping one?

:22:53. > :22:56.Government agencies have tested burning them with lasers, jamming

:22:57. > :23:04.their frequencies, even catching them with Eagles, and using other

:23:05. > :23:09.drones to ensnare them. Now, the unmanned aerial vehicle has a new

:23:10. > :23:13.enemy. It's the brainchild of five UK graduates, who founded the

:23:14. > :23:19.engineering company nine months ago. What have we got here? Sky was 100

:23:20. > :23:25.portable drone defense system. Made of alimony and carbon fibre. How

:23:26. > :23:29.does it work in principle? This is loaded into the back of the lodger,

:23:30. > :23:34.air is powered on to the back of it, the operator look through the scope,

:23:35. > :23:36.locks onto the drone and when it find it, the drone is captured. Can

:23:37. > :23:54.we have a demonstration? Could anybody use your system? At

:23:55. > :23:58.the moment in the UK it's illegal for anybody to interfere with a

:23:59. > :24:01.drone because a drone is an aircraft after all. Our system will be used

:24:02. > :24:05.by government authorities and law enforcement bodies like the police.

:24:06. > :24:10.Is this a superior way of catching drones? It's one of a number of ways

:24:11. > :24:15.of defeating the threat. You have to look at each scenario and tailor the

:24:16. > :24:17.solution to it. What works for protecting President Obama when

:24:18. > :24:23.doing an open-air speech might not work for a nuclear power station or

:24:24. > :24:26.Warner Brothers set of the next Game of Thrones. The keeping with this

:24:27. > :24:31.system is it's a very portable system and low-cost. It's the sort

:24:32. > :24:37.of thing you can deploy very quickly and that's important. What is the

:24:38. > :24:41.future for this drone catcher? The court skywalk technology will be

:24:42. > :24:43.developed into other systems which could be permanently installed at

:24:44. > :24:49.sites like nuclear power stations or airports.

:24:50. > :24:54.Globally, the soaring sales of drones for an opportunity, but also

:24:55. > :24:58.present security headaches. Might the answer to that be found in this

:24:59. > :25:05.Northumbrian field? Watch this space.

:25:06. > :25:12.Thank you, Lucy. He was just saying hello. Travis. Travis, Helen,

:25:13. > :25:20.Commons, Travis. I love the song, the radio is

:25:21. > :25:24.important, isn't it? Really important, it's how I always

:25:25. > :25:27.discovered music, through radio. The thing about radio, you can't see

:25:28. > :25:31.dance moves, which is a shame because they are brilliant and

:25:32. > :25:36.simple and we're all going to do them. And you at home. Go and get

:25:37. > :25:41.ready. Thank you, Fran. We're going to learn how to dance? Thank you to

:25:42. > :25:45.all of our guests tonight. You can see Helen in the new series of Peaky

:25:46. > :25:49.Blinders on BBC Two on Thursday night. And thank you to Michael for

:25:50. > :25:53.joining me, he's been lovely. Let's have a look at that record. It's

:25:54. > :25:58.proper, it's vinyl, it's the real thing. It's lovely to see it. Can

:25:59. > :26:02.you get it in other formats? You can get it in all formats. There will be

:26:03. > :26:05.backing singers and dancers and we will join as well. See you Monday.

:26:06. > :26:20.Let's pop over here, come on. # It was summer in the city and my

:26:21. > :26:24.heart stood still # I looked at the past inside my

:26:25. > :26:29.rearview mirror # There was nobody behind me and

:26:30. > :26:32.nothing up ahead # I knew I'd never feel the same

:26:33. > :26:44.again # There was imagery in motion,

:26:45. > :26:47.# There was gossip in the class # There was holding hands and making

:26:48. > :26:49.plans # And if I had more time then I wish

:26:50. > :26:59.you would # I really really really wish you

:27:00. > :27:06.would # But that's the part we never tried

:27:07. > :27:11.to stop # Ooooh

:27:12. > :27:20.# No regret, don't you forget # This magnificent time

:27:21. > :27:25.# Seize the day, don't throw away # I was somewhere in the city and my

:27:26. > :27:34.heart went boom # I packed all my troubles in a

:27:35. > :27:38.different room # And I thought of all the could

:27:39. > :27:41.have beens # The roads we never took

:27:42. > :27:44.# And how the story ends # But that's the part we never tried

:27:45. > :27:58.to stop # We never tried

:27:59. > :28:03.# Ooooh # Seize the day, don't throw away

:28:04. > :28:32.# This magnificent time # Magnificent time

:28:33. > :29:09.# Magnificent time. # APPLAUSE

:29:10. > :29:13.CHEERING