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:00:22. > :00:26.with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker. 60 years ago today, Sir Edmund Hillary

:00:26. > :00:30.and Tenzing Norgay reached the top of Mount Everest and tonight in

:00:30. > :00:34.London, the Queen will be celebrating the anniversary, and so

:00:34. > :00:38.are we. We will meet the man who has just come back from a record setting

:00:38. > :00:42.expedition to the top of Everest. will also meet the daughter of the

:00:42. > :00:46.man behind Hillary and forgave's successful climb and the unsung

:00:46. > :00:51.mountain heroes, the Sherpas. Our guest tonight hopes to do some

:00:51. > :00:55.climbing of her own, straight to the top of the book charts. Sherpa Dave,

:00:55. > :01:05.please bring in Tess Daly! MUSIC: "Ain't No Mountain High

:01:05. > :01:11.

:01:11. > :01:18.These heels were not made for hiking! Nice to see you in snowy

:01:18. > :01:23.white. You look lovely. We will be talking about your second novel

:01:23. > :01:27.shortly. First, the Strictly news. There always seems to be Strictly

:01:27. > :01:34.news. Brucie was an BBC Breakfast. He will be doing fewer shows this

:01:34. > :01:39.year. Yes, he has booked himself three weeks off. And Claudia and I

:01:39. > :01:44.will do the duties. You will be at the helm, so when does Bruce become

:01:44. > :01:50.a special guest and strictly macro becomes your show? That is not going

:01:50. > :01:59.to happen. Brucie would not stand for it. I am glad he is back.

:01:59. > :02:03.is not the only octogenarian who is nifty on his feet. An 80-year-old

:02:03. > :02:07.from Japan has just become the oldest person to climb Everest. But

:02:07. > :02:11.you don't have to be 80 and on top of the world to impress us. We want

:02:11. > :02:17.your photos of when you conquered your personal Everest. It does not

:02:17. > :02:23.have to be a mountain, or a hill. What was the last major thing you

:02:23. > :02:28.overcame? It was my fear of flying. I was fine, and then I had

:02:28. > :02:35.children, and suddenly I could not bear flying. It was a real phobia.

:02:35. > :02:39.They say it comes on suddenly. I was dreading going on holiday and then

:02:39. > :02:45.dreading coming back once I was there. So I saw someone about it,

:02:45. > :02:53.and it has helped. They coach you through your fear. So far, I am 80%

:02:53. > :02:59.better. For me, it was saying the word octogenarian! Anyway, send us

:02:59. > :03:04.your conquering hero moments. making it to the top of Everest once

:03:04. > :03:10.is impressive enough, although the record is an exhausting 21 summits.

:03:10. > :03:14.It is held by a Sherpa called Apa. But Sherpa means far more than being

:03:14. > :03:18.a good climber. Lucy Siegle gets a crash course in the culture from the

:03:18. > :03:22.Sherpas who set up his camp in Britain. It is 60 years since

:03:22. > :03:25.Everest was first conquered. Since then, there have been

:03:25. > :03:30.thousands of recorded climes will stop almost all of them have had one

:03:30. > :03:35.thing in common - they were accompanied by Sherpas. But what do

:03:35. > :03:43.we know about Sherpas? Surprisingly, there is a small community living in

:03:43. > :03:48.the UK. It is a misconception that Sherpas are only hired porters to

:03:48. > :03:53.carry bags. The word Sherpa originally refers to an ethnic book

:03:53. > :03:56.of people from the Himalayas, with a population of 300,000 400,000, now

:03:56. > :04:01.scattered across the globe. They have there own language and a strong

:04:01. > :04:05.sense of and identity will stop Sherpas were originally high

:04:05. > :04:09.altitude farmers and traders, but during the 1920s, Westerners began

:04:09. > :04:15.trekking in the region and hiring the Sherpa people as porters because

:04:15. > :04:19.of their skills. A policeman and his daughter have never visited Everest,

:04:19. > :04:25.but they want people to recognise the Sherpa culture. Is it annoying

:04:25. > :04:35.that people always associate Sherpas with mountaineering? Yes, because

:04:35. > :04:35.

:04:35. > :04:40.the definition is wrong. The definition is of a porter, which you

:04:40. > :04:47.can have in a hotel will stop porters are different. Sherpas are

:04:47. > :04:55.the people who migrated east. They do other business, like trade,

:04:55. > :04:59.farming. I am going into dentistry. My brother is graduating as a doctor

:04:59. > :05:09.next year. And my dad is a policeman. They are just like any

:05:09. > :05:12.other people, just open, honest and humble. This man was head of the

:05:12. > :05:16.Sherpa association in the UK, and is worried that the conditions at the

:05:16. > :05:20.heart of Sherpa culture are in danger of being lost. Sherpas have

:05:20. > :05:25.their own language? Yes, one language, one culture, one

:05:25. > :05:30.territory. The identity is carried only by language. The new generation

:05:30. > :05:36.is not learning those languages. Do you feel like you are hanging onto

:05:36. > :05:46.your culture? Yeah, I am trying to preserve the culture and tradition

:05:46. > :05:48.of the Sherpas as much as I can. I can't give up. This man is a

:05:48. > :05:58.climbing Sherpa from Nepal and almost lost his life trekking across

:05:58. > :06:01.

:06:01. > :06:09.Everest. We went down and crossed the crevice. The problem was, there

:06:09. > :06:15.was a lot of cloud. I could not see. I think I fell maybe 150 feet down.

:06:15. > :06:20.But I survived. Soon after his experience, he met his wife Susie

:06:20. > :06:25.while trekking in the Himalayas. This was the mountain where we met.

:06:25. > :06:31.He has climbed this mountain many times. It is a very popular trekking

:06:31. > :06:36.peak. I went to climb a mountain, met a husband! He came over the

:06:36. > :06:40.following year to England, and I met him at Heathrow will stop I said to

:06:40. > :06:45.him, how long have you come for? I thought he would say, a few weeks.

:06:45. > :06:50.He said, six months. Anyway, we got married on the last way of the sixth

:06:50. > :07:00.month. And tell me about these. these all mountains you have

:07:00. > :07:02.

:07:02. > :07:12.climbed? Yes. This was Everest.That is incredible. And this is North

:07:12. > :07:13.

:07:13. > :07:22.Yorkshire. I love this! North Yorkshire and Everest. One is big,

:07:22. > :07:26.one is small, but powerful. With us is Harriet Tuckay, whose

:07:26. > :07:34.father knew how vital Sherpas are two Everest climbers. Your dad was

:07:34. > :07:43.Doctor Griffith Pugh, the expedition's physiologist in 1953.

:07:43. > :07:47.What did you read in his diaries about the Sherpas he met? I read

:07:47. > :07:51.that he recommended that the Sherpas should be given the same oxygen

:07:51. > :07:55.equipment and clothing as the climbers, because he said they were

:07:55. > :08:00.going to face the same challenges, but they would be working

:08:00. > :08:04.considerably harder than the climbers. And Tenzing and Norgay

:08:04. > :08:08.came round your house. You were six years old, so your memories must be

:08:08. > :08:13.foggy, but what do you remember? He was very smiley and he had a

:08:13. > :08:18.wonderful, wide smile and white teeth. I asked him if he had seen a

:08:18. > :08:22.tiger, and he roared with laughter. I was a bit perturbed, but I found

:08:22. > :08:27.out later that the reason he probably laughed was because elite

:08:27. > :08:36.Sherpas who climb the very high altitudes were known as Tigers. And

:08:36. > :08:39.he was one. He told me he had not seen a tiger. But your father's

:08:39. > :08:45.medical work was key to the success of that first mission that reached

:08:45. > :08:50.the summit. What findings did he bring with him to make it that

:08:50. > :08:58.successful? He had done a study the year before on a mountain near

:08:58. > :09:08.Everest. And he would commended that they used oxygen in a different way,

:09:08. > :09:08.

:09:08. > :09:11.and that worked. Secondly, he told them how to acclimatise. They had to

:09:11. > :09:16.give a month to acclimatisation. They had to climb higher in the

:09:16. > :09:22.day, but sleep at a level they could tolerate and go gradually up over a

:09:22. > :09:27.month. That meant they were fitter and better acclimatised. Two steps

:09:27. > :09:31.forward, one step back. And that technique is still used today. But

:09:31. > :09:36.the most important thing was was that they had to drink six to eight

:09:36. > :09:42.pints of water a day to avoid dehydration. He also told Hillary he

:09:42. > :09:45.might not feel thirsty, so the way to make sure he was properly

:09:45. > :09:51.hydrated was to see how often he your related. And after he got to

:09:51. > :09:57.the summit, he often used to report "when I got to the summit, I had no

:09:57. > :10:00.choice but to pay on it" . All thanks to your dad! Well, we have

:10:00. > :10:09.some lovely footage of your dad coming back and you as a little

:10:09. > :10:13.girl, running to meet him. Colonel Hunt leaves the aircraft which

:10:13. > :10:17.brings the triumphant Everest expedition back to Britain. London

:10:17. > :10:22.is crowded with hundreds of well-wishers. Mr Pugh's little

:10:22. > :10:29.daughter rushes to greet her father. Wives and relatives gather round to

:10:29. > :10:34.welcome the heroes home again. that a vivid memory of yours? It

:10:34. > :10:44.looks wonderful. I remember it was a very exciting day out. I had a new

:10:44. > :10:46.

:10:46. > :10:49.pink Boller -- Bolero, and I loved it. What you were telling us was

:10:49. > :10:53.ironic. It was a very ironic image, because there was not very much

:10:53. > :10:57.hugging between me and my father. When I grew up, I did not get on

:10:57. > :11:05.with him at all. I learned about him to writing my book, and now I feel

:11:05. > :11:08.differently. You feel he has wiped from the history books? Yes, I do.

:11:08. > :11:16.And I think the reason is that the leader of the expedition wanted to

:11:16. > :11:22.be seen as a gallant and clever leader who had succeeded in bringing

:11:22. > :11:25.the great dish quest of climbing Everest to a fruitful conclusion.

:11:25. > :11:30.The last thing he wanted to admit was that a physiologist had solved

:11:30. > :11:35.the problems of climbing at high altitude. He wanted to be seen as

:11:35. > :11:38.having stood on the shoulders of his predecessors. The book you have

:11:38. > :11:42.written will help people realise how key he was to the expedition.

:11:42. > :11:46.Everest: The First Ascent is out now. Now, in the fight against

:11:46. > :11:49.organised crime, police can spend years travelling the world looking

:11:49. > :11:53.for the one clue that could break a case wide open.

:11:53. > :11:56.But sometimes, they can just sit at their desks and check Facebook.

:11:56. > :12:06.Martin Bayfield meets the detective whose suspects were not exactly

:12:06. > :12:07.

:12:07. > :12:12.criminal masterminds. You would expect most criminal gangs

:12:12. > :12:16.to hide in the shadows, to avoid the limelight. At least, that is what

:12:16. > :12:21.you would expect from criminals with some sense. This is the story of a

:12:21. > :12:26.criminal gang that does not score highly on the intelligence front.

:12:26. > :12:31.And here they are, the Ladbroke Grove bloods, as they like to be

:12:31. > :12:36.called. Hardly the shy and retiring types, they posted this video

:12:36. > :12:39.bragging of the criminal exploits on YouTube. You might use social

:12:39. > :12:46.networking to share holiday snaps, but they used to brag about what

:12:46. > :12:50.cars they had nicked. This is came Williamson, posing with his new

:12:50. > :12:56.range Rover, which is not his. The car was stolen a day before the snap

:12:56. > :12:59.was taken. But that did not stop Williamson putting the photo on his

:12:59. > :13:05.Facebook profile for the whole world to see. Not a good move, because

:13:05. > :13:09.guess what? The police can use Facebook, too. In fact, they often

:13:09. > :13:13.look at the social networks of people known to them, which included

:13:13. > :13:18.Williamson. His Facebook page was remain with incoming eating photos

:13:18. > :13:21.of him and his mates, posing with Lashkar 's, champagne, expensive

:13:21. > :13:27.watches and wads of cash. Impressive, considering that none of

:13:27. > :13:30.them had a job. Our suspect had taken it upon himself to post a

:13:30. > :13:34.photograph on his Facebook page, stood in front of a stolen range

:13:34. > :13:38.Rover. From the picture, we could establish most of the registration,

:13:38. > :13:42.and from that we identified the burglary where the car was stolen. I

:13:42. > :13:47.have never seen such Jupiter two. The tech is then seized

:13:47. > :13:49.Williamson's mobile phone. It was also a treasure trove of

:13:49. > :13:53.incriminating evidence. We found they host of things on his phone,

:13:53. > :13:58.instant messaging between him and the other gang members that not only

:13:58. > :14:01.showed commonality but also proved association between the group.

:14:01. > :14:06.info on the phone linked Williamson to the rest of the gang and a series

:14:06. > :14:09.of burglaries across the swankier parts of West London. When

:14:09. > :14:15.detectives swooped on the other gang members, they seized even more

:14:15. > :14:20.phones, all full of illuminating photos. In fact, these boys just

:14:20. > :14:26.loved posing for the camera. Here is Daniel, with his new Porsche. Here

:14:26. > :14:32.he is again. Rory Mason liked to flash the cash, cunningly posing

:14:32. > :14:38.with it outside his own house. Not very bright. And that is Mr Murphy,

:14:38. > :14:43.with a sandwich made of cash. So where did it all come from? You will

:14:43. > :14:46.not be suppressed to hear that the gang's tactics were pretty simple.

:14:46. > :14:50.They targeted homes with expensive top of the range cars parked

:14:50. > :14:53.outside. They then broke into the house, stole the car keys and

:14:53. > :14:58.anything else they could get their hands on, before making their

:14:58. > :15:08.getaway in the stolen car. And if all the evidence in the colourful

:15:08. > :15:11.

:15:11. > :15:19.snaps was not enough, they liked the film their antics, too. These videos

:15:19. > :15:29.show some of them racing a Porsche against a BMW. The videos were found

:15:29. > :15:42.

:15:42. > :15:45.always the gang who were doing the filming. We have got the vehicle.70

:15:45. > :15:50.mph. Detectives linked them to this car chase films by police

:15:50. > :15:54.helicopter. The evidence against the gang was overwhelming, enough photos

:15:54. > :16:00.and videos to link them with 15 burglaries. Police believe they may

:16:00. > :16:05.have committed more. They were local gang members, and such was the

:16:05. > :16:11.weight of evidence, they were left with no opportunity to plead guilty

:16:11. > :16:15.at court on the first appearance. My experience, I have never come across

:16:15. > :16:23.evidence like it. The level of stupidity on their part and the

:16:23. > :16:26.evidence they left to the cup and use was incredible. Eight of the

:16:26. > :16:32.gang were convicted and sentenced to between three years and four years

:16:32. > :16:36.eight months in prison. Since they have been locked up, there has been

:16:36. > :16:43.a 40% reduction in burglaries in this area. Now, the only photographs

:16:43. > :16:53.these criminals need to be worried about our debt and police mug shots.

:16:53. > :16:53.

:16:53. > :16:58.48% decrease, remarkable. It is up to you, New York! It is your second

:16:58. > :17:03.novel, so when did you start getting the writing bug? I got into it

:17:03. > :17:08.before I got into television, I was living in New York, bottling, I had

:17:08. > :17:15.been living there for five years. What were you writing? Interviews

:17:15. > :17:21.with celebrities. I made myself a show real, I produced a show real,

:17:21. > :17:25.and I had Quentin crisp first, the raconteur. He lived in my

:17:25. > :17:32.neighbourhood in New York. He was in the phone directory, you could take

:17:32. > :17:38.him out. He would tell us his life's adventures. I filmed him, I made a

:17:38. > :17:43.film, and that got me my first job. But I wrote for a magazine, I have

:17:43. > :17:49.always enjoyed writing, since I was a kid. I have written a diary since

:17:49. > :17:56.day one. I have always enjoyed it. You get a chance to be creative.

:17:56. > :18:01.you, it is just as well that you have kept a diary, as they say,

:18:01. > :18:04.write about what you know, and the central character, it is what

:18:05. > :18:11.happened to you, she worked in customer services and she gets

:18:11. > :18:20.scouted by a modelling agency. is scouted, as I was, on the streets

:18:20. > :18:24.of Manchester, and she takes part in a reality TV show. It is about

:18:24. > :18:29.finding the UK's next supermodel, so she gets swept up into this world,

:18:29. > :18:35.she finds herself in New York, and is a bad -- it is about her

:18:35. > :18:39.adventures. I have not been able to put it down! Nigel Havers is a big

:18:39. > :18:46.fan, he came in and he was reading it. Here is the proof.

:18:47. > :18:52.Will you marry me, muttered Holly? James tucked her in. She fell

:18:52. > :18:58.asleep. So speedily, she was not sure whether or not she had heard

:18:58. > :19:07.him whisper, I would love nothing more.

:19:07. > :19:14.Very good! I might get him for the audio book! His dulcet tones!

:19:14. > :19:20.got scouted. When was that? Where were you? Are you still in contact

:19:20. > :19:25.with them? I was in Manchester, outside McDonald's, somebody came up

:19:25. > :19:32.with a leaflet for a modelling agency. What was your reaction? I

:19:32. > :19:37.was too shy! I thought, I cannot do that! I slept on it, and I thought,

:19:37. > :19:42.I will see them, and then I was in Tokyo within six weeks, then

:19:42. > :19:48.Barcelona, Madrid, Paris for five years, back to London, then I lived

:19:48. > :19:55.in New York for five years. How was Tokyo as a 17-year-old? It was mind

:19:55. > :20:01.blowing. I had only ever been to the Isle of Wight! I had never left the

:20:02. > :20:07.country, hubs Austria for a school trip. Everything there, the train

:20:07. > :20:13.station signs were in Japanese, if I caught a train, I had to set my

:20:13. > :20:18.alarm so I knew when to get off the train. Nobody spoke English. It is

:20:18. > :20:23.different now. It was incredible, I had never had foreign food, I

:20:23. > :20:29.thought foreign food was pizza. Raw fish, that was it! From the

:20:29. > :20:36.Derbyshire Dales to Tokyo! Do you still have friends there? Not in

:20:37. > :20:42.Tokyo, but in Paris and lots of places in the world. It was great.

:20:42. > :20:47.Do you want to write a third novel? I hope so. Where do you write? I

:20:47. > :20:57.have an office in the loft, it is my time, it is a sanctuary, nobody is

:20:57. > :20:59.

:20:59. > :21:02.allowed in! There is no glitter! The glitter ball is not in the loft!

:21:02. > :21:07.new book, It's Up To You New York, is out now.

:21:07. > :21:13.In a moment, we meet Daniel Hughes, who has just set a new record on the

:21:13. > :21:20.summit of Mount Everest. But first, the story of a man who eat death in

:21:20. > :21:25.front of an audience night after night. Until the night he did not.

:21:25. > :21:31.Chung Ling Soo, popular magician, master of the art of illusion. Until

:21:31. > :21:36.the night he was killed on stage by a bullet from his own gun. At the

:21:36. > :21:38.time of the First World War, he had built a successful career as a

:21:38. > :21:44.variety theatre magician, playing to packed houses across London six

:21:44. > :21:48.nights a week. It was a traditional magic act spiced up with exotic

:21:48. > :21:53.Oriental theme. He worked in front of a silk curtain emblazoned with

:21:53. > :21:58.the Chinese dragon. He produced live goldfish out of midair and made his

:21:58. > :22:03.glamorous Chinese resistance does appear, only to reveal an enormous

:22:03. > :22:10.orange tree in her place. But the stage character was a total

:22:10. > :22:16.invention. In reality, he was William Robinson, born in New York

:22:16. > :22:22.in 1861. William Robinson was not a successful magician in North

:22:22. > :22:25.America. He had an awkward stage presence, he did not speak well on

:22:25. > :22:31.stage, and he was as excess working for other magicians, creating tricks

:22:31. > :22:38.for them. But it turned around when he saw a successful magician in the

:22:38. > :22:42.USA. He was a genuine Chinese magician. He had an idea, to

:22:42. > :22:49.borrow, or steal, in some peoples eyes the act and persona of the

:22:49. > :22:55.Chinese magician and reinvent himself in Britain. Over he came as

:22:55. > :22:59.Chung Ling Soo, and he built himself as the original Chinese conjurer. He

:22:59. > :23:05.went to great detail, he wore authentic costumes, changed his

:23:05. > :23:09.hairstyle and even adopted the language. Well, pretended to.

:23:09. > :23:17.could not speak a word of Chinese, he had a fake chance later. --

:23:17. > :23:24.translator. He would murmur gib rush back to the translator, and the

:23:24. > :23:27.translator would invent and cancer. He did not speak a word of Chinese.

:23:27. > :23:32.This is thought to be the only film record that exists of Chung Ling

:23:32. > :23:39.Soo. Onstage, he was gaining protection for one trick, defying

:23:39. > :23:43.the bullets. On Saturday the 23rd of March 1918, here at the Wood Green

:23:43. > :23:48.Empire, he was reaching the end of the second house. It was full and he

:23:48. > :23:52.was about to perform his bullet trick. He would stand up one side of

:23:52. > :23:58.the stage and are allowed to real guns to be fired at him, loaded with

:23:58. > :24:01.bullets chosen and marked by two members of the audience. He would

:24:01. > :24:07.attempt to catch the marked bullet in this plate, as he had done

:24:07. > :24:14.before, and hold played directly in front of him, across his chest, and

:24:14. > :24:20.his assistants would raise the guns, take aim and fired directly at him.

:24:20. > :24:23.Chung Ling Soo fell to the ground. The audience fell silent. They did

:24:23. > :24:28.not know if this for showmanship or part of the act, but the trick had

:24:28. > :24:31.gone wrong. A bullet had pierced his lung Tom are causing massive

:24:31. > :24:39.haemorrhaging. He was rushed to a nearby hospital but died the

:24:39. > :24:43.following day. What is your theory about what happened? There are lots

:24:43. > :24:47.of rumours and conspiracy theories, some people thought it was suicide.

:24:47. > :24:51.He had a complicated life, competitive relationships with

:24:51. > :24:56.others, he married his assistant and there were rumours of bigamy and

:24:56. > :25:01.possible polygyny, but it was a dangerous trick, Houdini begged him

:25:01. > :25:10.not to do it, it was known as the trick that scared Houdini. Houdini

:25:10. > :25:13.wrote to him, please do not do it. He set up the guns, he was

:25:13. > :25:19.meticulous, but as the Inquirer showed, there was corrosion in the

:25:19. > :25:26.gun, and as a result, the gun went off accidentally, and fatally shot

:25:26. > :25:33.him. Chung Ling Soo, or William Robinson, was buried at a private

:25:33. > :25:40.service in Ban Cemetery on March 30 1918. He kept the actor until the

:25:40. > :25:45.end, almost. He fell to the floor, and he was heard to cry out, oh, my

:25:45. > :25:49.God, something has happened, love the curtain! The first and last

:25:50. > :25:58.words in English ever spoken on stage by Chung Ling Soo. His act was

:25:58. > :26:02.over. After that story, we are back in the

:26:02. > :26:05.mountains with Daniel Hughes, who earlier this month was the first to

:26:05. > :26:10.make a video call from the top of Mount Everest.

:26:10. > :26:16.This is the world's first video call, it has never been done

:26:16. > :26:23.before, from the rooftop of the world. It is not too windy. I will

:26:23. > :26:28.introduce my Sherpa, I would not be here without him. Nobody would get

:26:28. > :26:36.to the top of these mountains without the shirt is.

:26:36. > :26:40.He is here! Congratulations. It is nice to have you. 520 people have

:26:40. > :26:48.reached the summit, one person is an 80-year-old man, so some would say,

:26:48. > :26:55.is it easier these days? My mission was to put the first red nose on the

:26:55. > :27:03.top, and I was focused on that, I need people to donate. Judy to go to

:27:03. > :27:07.the website! It was similar in many ways, we followed the same

:27:07. > :27:11.footsteps, the same environment, the wind and conditions, we still had

:27:11. > :27:17.oxygen, in some ways it is easier, because of technology, but in

:27:17. > :27:22.others, it is harder, because Hillary and Tenzing Norgay, they

:27:22. > :27:28.just had a rope and axis, but we were in a queue, there were 50

:27:28. > :27:38.people ahead, and you thought, if the oxygen going to run out? This is

:27:38. > :27:38.

:27:38. > :27:44.your footage. You took a camera. was done from a smartphone, a poll,

:27:44. > :27:52.I'd used a satellite modem. There is nowhere to charge or batteries! I

:27:52. > :27:56.had loads of kit, solar panels, batteries, keeping everything warm.

:27:56. > :28:03.That is why it has never been done before, because most climbers want

:28:03. > :28:07.to carry as little as possible, and I had an extra ten kilos of kit.

:28:07. > :28:12.Lots of people are taking a lot of stuff, some of the shots of the

:28:12. > :28:18.queues, it is quite something. is a pretty big queue, that might

:28:18. > :28:26.have been from last year. It was not quite as bad as that, but we had 140

:28:26. > :28:31.people on the day that I was there. Thank you for all of the photos you

:28:31. > :28:41.have been sending in. This is Rachel from Rugby, after she climbed a

:28:41. > :28:46.