:00:10. > :00:12.You'll just need to keep a really steady hand for this next bit
:00:13. > :00:16.This is going to take all my concentration -
:00:17. > :00:34.Very tricky, you know? CHUCKLES
:00:35. > :00:38.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker.
:00:39. > :00:41.And Alex Jones - Tonight's guests are two of the stars from the BBC's
:00:42. > :00:43.award winning medical drama, Holby City - Hugh
:00:44. > :01:02.APPLAUSE Your fans are in the night.
:01:03. > :01:05.Steady. We saw you haven't got the steadiest of
:01:06. > :01:08.Guy - you play Henrick Hanssen the hospital chief and a surgeon
:01:09. > :01:11.in Holby City and as we've just seen you don't have the steadiest
:01:12. > :01:15.of hands which is a bit of a problem for you at work isn't it?
:01:16. > :01:19.it was a big show to come into. I was playing this brilliant surgeon.
:01:20. > :01:26.I am incompetent and I know nothing about it. Marcel, who plays one of
:01:27. > :01:33.the characters, I had to hold a very precise implement with a very long
:01:34. > :01:38.surgical thing. You still haven't got it, have you? Are you with me?
:01:39. > :01:45.There was a slight tremor of fear in my arm. Rosie grabbed my arm and
:01:46. > :01:53.said the first assistant director, is that in shot? And she calmly and
:01:54. > :01:55.quietly held my arm firm while I did my intricate bit of stuff and I've
:01:56. > :01:57.loved her ever since. Good team member.
:01:58. > :02:00.Hugh, you may play surgeon Ric Griffin, we've discovered that
:02:01. > :02:02.you've been in need of medical attention yourself lately -
:02:03. > :02:11.It did not require any hospital treatment. I'm not a good patient. I
:02:12. > :02:18.like to think I can heal myself. This was a sporting injury. Very
:02:19. > :02:24.much in the same vein of Usain Bolt. I was running the anchor leg in the
:02:25. > :02:30.relay. I tore a calf muscle. Painful. I have been limping and
:02:31. > :02:31.milking it ever since. No hospital treatment required.
:02:32. > :02:34.We'll be talking more about what's going on in Holby later.
:02:35. > :02:36.We'll also be chatting to musician Marcus Mumford and footballing
:02:37. > :02:38.legend Les Ferdinand about their charity football match
:02:39. > :02:41.featuring a host of celebrities to raise funds for the victims
:02:42. > :02:56.From Friday the government is due to announce that the majority
:02:57. > :02:58.of all three and four year olds in England will be entitled
:02:59. > :03:03.to thirty hours of free nursery care a week
:03:04. > :03:05.but many nurseries are saying they won't be taking part
:03:06. > :03:08.in the scheme as the numbers simply don't add up for them.
:03:09. > :03:11.Kevin Duala has been to visit one nursery that is finding a way
:03:12. > :03:14.to keep costs down by turning to parents for help.
:03:15. > :03:19.With childcare costs going up, many parents are left questioning whether
:03:20. > :03:24.staying at home to look after their children is more cost-effective than
:03:25. > :03:28.going to work. But now more radical solutions are being looked at. Not
:03:29. > :03:33.only allowing parents cheaper childcare but also spending more
:03:34. > :03:37.time with their kids. Those solutions include parent partnership
:03:38. > :03:43.nurseries. With the parents helping to run things. A handful of these
:03:44. > :03:47.already exist across the UK but now childcare experts are looking to
:03:48. > :03:51.expand the model, specifically across more deprived areas. In New
:03:52. > :03:55.Zealand and Canada it forms a big part of the market. We've been
:03:56. > :03:58.looking at whether that would be appropriate in the UK. I imagine
:03:59. > :04:02.there is a massive financial implication for the parents. There
:04:03. > :04:06.can be savings. Most of the parents we've talked to are more interested
:04:07. > :04:10.in the benefits of seeing what happens to their children while in
:04:11. > :04:13.childcare. How do they work and do regular parents at the time,
:04:14. > :04:21.patients, and skills to help out in a busy nursery? -- have the time.
:04:22. > :04:25.I've come to this nursery in Tower Hamlets. It has been successfully
:04:26. > :04:30.operating as a parent partnership since 2004. I brought along a couple
:04:31. > :04:34.of one show viewers to see if nurseries like this could work for
:04:35. > :04:41.them. Mother of two Sarah is from rain, Essex. It's very expensive to
:04:42. > :04:46.send them in for one morning. I stay at home with him while dad goes to
:04:47. > :04:50.work. Full-time dad Simon is from Northwich, Manchester and is due to
:04:51. > :04:54.go back to work later this year. I just got a place at a local nursery,
:04:55. > :04:58.starting in September. Both will be seeing what it is like to be a
:04:59. > :05:03.parent volunteer. Sarah, you will be helping out in the kitchen. Perfect.
:05:04. > :05:11.You will be on the shop floor, working with the kids, is that all
:05:12. > :05:15.right? Perfect. Catherine has been volunteering here for four years and
:05:16. > :05:19.fit it around a full-time job. On a Wednesday morning every week there
:05:20. > :05:23.cannot be working. I am here. I'm not making an income whilst I am
:05:24. > :05:27.here. I don't think it is actually that much more cost-effective than
:05:28. > :05:33.another nursery, but I think you get the added value of being involved as
:05:34. > :05:37.a parent. All parents that work here goes through basic childcare
:05:38. > :05:46.training and are subject to criminal checks. They are there to help the
:05:47. > :05:51.five permanent members of staff. And families have to commit to at least
:05:52. > :05:54.one shift per week. This way the parents save on fees for that day
:05:55. > :06:02.and the nursery saves on wages. This is your plate. In the kitchen, the
:06:03. > :06:06.parents are responsible for creating, buying, and preparing the
:06:07. > :06:15.menu for the day. Today they have got green peas, a leaf of spinach,
:06:16. > :06:19.that is just so they get to meet it. She has been juggling working here
:06:20. > :06:23.with a full-time job since September. Is there an issue with
:06:24. > :06:27.favouritism? If you are working in a group and your child needs you, do
:06:28. > :06:31.you go to them first? You would think, but when you spend enough
:06:32. > :06:36.time in here you become everybody's mum. It's been a really positive
:06:37. > :06:41.experience. Guess what, I helped your moneymaker that Peter. Some
:06:42. > :06:50.have reservations about this type of nursery. -- helps your money make
:06:51. > :06:56.that pizza. Some people think that parents won't be able to meet the
:06:57. > :06:58.same standards as staff. The qualified professionals bring
:06:59. > :07:02.experience, child protection, safeguarding on all of these areas,
:07:03. > :07:07.it's difficult to train all of the parents volunteering in those areas.
:07:08. > :07:13.But what our volunteer parents think? Sarah, Simon, how are you?
:07:14. > :07:19.Good. You have got involved and asked questions, what are your final
:07:20. > :07:30.thoughts? As long as the Czechs are in place it can benefit everybody.
:07:31. > :07:34.-- as long as the checks are in place it can benefit everybody.
:07:35. > :07:39.There will never be a one size fits all solution. But with pilot schemes
:07:40. > :07:41.starting late in the year it seems like experiments like these can
:07:42. > :07:44.offer one radical solution, at least.
:07:45. > :07:45.For more information on the Government's new childcare
:07:46. > :07:59.As regular viewers of Holby City will no you two don't always see eye
:08:00. > :08:06.to eye. Die, you are a CEO, Hugh, you are a surgeon. -- Guy, you are a
:08:07. > :08:13.CEO. Let's look at some moments here. In these clips you need more
:08:14. > :08:19.than a sticking plaster to fix your problems. Please, don't let me into
:08:20. > :08:30.rocked. I'm not interested in playing power games. It's time for a
:08:31. > :08:33.change. Why is that funny? -- please do let me
:08:34. > :08:50.That was good. How close did you get? I am pretty safe to fight. I
:08:51. > :08:59.would never dream of breaking his nose. But you are frightening. You
:09:00. > :09:05.are the CEO of the hospital. Holby City has been going for 17 years
:09:06. > :09:14.now. Nearly 18. You have managed to avoid the NHS cutbacks. There is a
:09:15. > :09:21.story coming up which involves a merger with another hospital. A
:09:22. > :09:26.drama programme does what it aims to. It does reflect issues people
:09:27. > :09:30.are having. You have been talking about the funding are not. It's not
:09:31. > :09:35.just about the patients. It is very much real life issues. It would be
:09:36. > :09:41.strange if we didn't. It is supposed to be an NHS hospital. The NHS is in
:09:42. > :09:45.crisis. If we ignored it it would seem like we were living in a
:09:46. > :09:50.fairyland and the programme, the show always does try to reflect what
:09:51. > :09:54.is going on. But it is difficult because we film three months before
:09:55. > :10:00.transmission, so we can never quite second-guess what will happen with
:10:01. > :10:07.cuts and Brexit and so forth. And EU nationals leaving the NHS. It feels
:10:08. > :10:13.incredibly real. It is shot at Elstree. We sometimes end up there
:10:14. > :10:17.for Children In Need. It is built like a hospital. Even when you drive
:10:18. > :10:25.around the area where the ambulances go through. Guy, you said he felt
:10:26. > :10:31.nervous, and you can understand why because it feels very real. When I
:10:32. > :10:35.joined, I was nervous, because it is a deeply loved programme and at its
:10:36. > :10:41.best it is a very good programme. You don't want to be the tall idiot,
:10:42. > :10:47.the new surgeon, letting it down, so I was trembling. Brilliantly cast.
:10:48. > :10:53.You do look just like a surgeon. I have a few surgeon mates and you
:10:54. > :10:58.absolutely fit the bill. On the occasions, if I go to hospital to
:10:59. > :11:03.visit a friend, or something, you get strange looks. I am sure. People
:11:04. > :11:08.doing double takes in the corridor wondering why I am there. And some
:11:09. > :11:13.of the doctors think, I'm sure I was in medical school with him, cannot
:11:14. > :11:16.quite place him. One day I was visiting a friend in St George 's in
:11:17. > :11:21.tooting and a man came up to me in the canteen and said I can't believe
:11:22. > :11:26.you are here, my wife is a big fan of the show, she loves Henrick
:11:27. > :11:32.Hanssen, my character, she came in for a massive heart operation last
:11:33. > :11:36.week. And he said she had said if only Henrick Hanssen had been here I
:11:37. > :11:42.would be all right. But we went and said hello to her. That was nice.
:11:43. > :11:48.She really liked it. And you had a similar experience, didn't you? Mine
:11:49. > :11:55.was poignant. I was on holiday. South-west France. I was going round
:11:56. > :12:02.a market with a family friend. I saw a lady in the corner of my eye
:12:03. > :12:08.trying to get my attention, I walked away, but she did corner me and
:12:09. > :12:13.said, thank you for saving my life. And I was puzzled. She explained
:12:14. > :12:26.that she had been a big fan of the series. And had the same cancer that
:12:27. > :12:29.my character had. It had metastasised to the liver. Usually
:12:30. > :12:34.when that happens it is a fairly fatal. But because we have a
:12:35. > :12:42.brilliant surgeon in the shape of Henrick Hanssen, he gave me what is
:12:43. > :12:47.called a special procedure, basically chopping up my liver, and
:12:48. > :12:52.I lived to see another day. She had the same condition. She demanded a
:12:53. > :13:00.second opinion after following the story. Because it had also
:13:01. > :13:05.metastasised to her liver. And there she was two years later telling the
:13:06. > :13:11.tale. She told the story to me, my wife, we all had wet eyes. If she is
:13:12. > :13:15.watching I hope she gets in touch. That is the power of television
:13:16. > :13:19.drama. We inadvertently did something good, well, you did. You
:13:20. > :13:23.have been there for quite some time. Guy you took a two year break
:13:24. > :13:34.from Holby city and ended I know the joy of doing what you
:13:35. > :13:39.did. Really? Well, ever since I was a tiny thing I wanted to be a coach
:13:40. > :13:45.driver. A lovely thing. I thought, you are 51, do it. I went to Giles
:13:46. > :13:49.and Julian in Chingford. Not as posh as they sound.
:13:50. > :13:53.CHUCKLES They taught me to drive a coach.
:13:54. > :13:57.I've always wanted to be a coach driver. I have passed my license. I
:13:58. > :14:02.have driven professionally for a company in Wimbledon. I had to say
:14:03. > :14:05.to some of the passengers who looked extremely worried and concerned that
:14:06. > :14:09.this bloke off the telly was going to be driving them to Birmingham. I
:14:10. > :14:13.did say, believe me, I never qualified as a surgeon but I have
:14:14. > :14:18.passed my bus driving test. CHUCKLES
:14:19. > :14:24.If they ever take this and Holby City of the air, we can drive
:14:25. > :14:33.together. How come? It is a long story. It is good, isn't it? Yes.
:14:34. > :14:36.Holby City is on at 8pm tonight on BBC One and
:14:37. > :14:39.Regular viewers of Holby City will know that the drama mirrors
:14:40. > :14:42.the real world of medical developments and cutting edge
:14:43. > :14:44.techniques - so writers will be interested in this next VT
:14:45. > :14:50.the first NHS patient who benefit a new technique which has enabled
:14:51. > :14:58.You know how irritating it is when you get a smart on your glasses?
:14:59. > :15:02.Just imagine what it would be like if you couldn't wipe it away and it
:15:03. > :15:08.covered up everything you wanted to see. This is a simulation of
:15:09. > :15:14.age-related macular degeneration, it affects more than 600,000 people in
:15:15. > :15:18.the UK and so far there is no cure. Annie has been living with the
:15:19. > :15:22.disease for eight years, but the loss of her vision is still
:15:23. > :15:29.painfully vivid. When I was reading all of the writing was going up. It
:15:30. > :15:38.was all slanted. They sent me to a consultant. He diagnosed me with
:15:39. > :15:43.AMD, there was no cure. I was devastated. I cried. In fact,
:15:44. > :15:52.talking about it now... It's just awful. The disease tends to affect
:15:53. > :15:56.people over 65, but Annie was only 57. The change for Annie and her
:15:57. > :16:14.partner was dramatic. It was a god send. He is my eyes. Directly
:16:15. > :16:18.looking at anyone, it's just a mist. The biggest challenge has been
:16:19. > :16:22.looking after her grandchildren. My daughter works late at night, I put
:16:23. > :16:31.him to bed, and I cannot read him a bedtime story. But there is light at
:16:32. > :16:36.the end of the tunnel. A hospital has developed a procedure but it is
:16:37. > :16:40.only available privately. Now, recognising its huge benefits the
:16:41. > :16:42.NHS has agreed to fund it. Today, Annie is the first NHS patient to
:16:43. > :16:51.have the operation. It causes damage to cells at the
:16:52. > :16:55.back of the eye. The background should be orange and you can see it
:16:56. > :16:59.is more yellow and there is no damage to that area. Because the
:17:00. > :17:05.damaged area cannot be repaired, the only option is to compensate for it.
:17:06. > :17:09.Specialists have developed a tiny telescope which becomes like
:17:10. > :17:13.telephoto lens and a camera. It projects the image onto the healthy
:17:14. > :17:18.parts of the retina making the blindspot seem much smaller. And
:17:19. > :17:24.they will be able to recognise the eyes, the mouth, the rest of the
:17:25. > :17:29.face, she might not see the tip of the nose. Only one I will have the
:17:30. > :17:34.telescope giving her two sorts of vision. The eye that has the implant
:17:35. > :17:39.and will be able to function and see centrally and the other eye will
:17:40. > :17:44.make sure she does not bump into things. There are risks but it is
:17:45. > :17:48.alike transforming operation. Annie is being given a local anaesthetic,
:17:49. > :17:54.it will numb the pain and stop are seeing and this will help to stay
:17:55. > :17:59.calm as she will be awake during the procedure. I am not frightened, I
:18:00. > :18:04.just want it done. How are you? Beautiful. The first task is to
:18:05. > :18:08.remove the natural lens to make way for the telescope. We have got very
:18:09. > :18:13.little space here. You can damage the cornea and you do not want to go
:18:14. > :18:18.into deep to damage the sack work the telescope will be inserted. With
:18:19. > :18:25.the lens removed, the doctor can now implant the telescope. It is a big
:18:26. > :18:30.device for a eye. It lodges a whole system of lenses in their in order
:18:31. > :18:35.to provide the magnification we need. Inserting the telescope has to
:18:36. > :18:44.be done with the utmost care. This is a critical moment now. That is
:18:45. > :18:48.beautiful. He is happy with the positioning, but the incision is
:18:49. > :18:53.closed. How are you doing down there? Very good. We are closing up
:18:54. > :18:58.now and you have been an amazing patient. It has all gone well and
:18:59. > :19:03.Annie's next challenge will be learning to use her new eyes. In a
:19:04. > :19:07.couple of weeks she will need to start rehabilitation and this will
:19:08. > :19:11.take between four and six months and she will learn how to focus and use
:19:12. > :19:14.the telescope to enable her to improve their quality of life and
:19:15. > :19:18.her central vision. It is the beginning of a long journey for
:19:19. > :19:25.Annie but she is clear which he is looking forward to most. Their
:19:26. > :19:31.faces, their expressions, like Finn laughing and that is what I want
:19:32. > :19:34.most of all. Well, we spoke to Annie today and it has been nine months
:19:35. > :19:40.since the operation which happened in November. She says that she can
:19:41. > :19:44.now read but it is difficult, she sees progress but it is still hard
:19:45. > :19:47.work but more importantly, she can now see the faces of her
:19:48. > :19:51.grandchildren which is the main thing she wanted. She recognises it
:19:52. > :19:58.is early days and these things take time. We wish all the very best. We
:19:59. > :20:05.are joined by Les Ferdinand and musician Marcus.
:20:06. > :20:10.CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. -- Marcus Mumford. You're here to talk about
:20:11. > :20:14.this charity football match to raise funds for the victims of the
:20:15. > :20:24.Grenfell fire. Where did this idea come from initially, Les? Basically,
:20:25. > :20:28.when I saw the fire on the night of the fire, I got some messages saying
:20:29. > :20:36.about the fire and that was one from Tony Fernandes, one of the owners of
:20:37. > :20:40.QPR who said they set something up at the stadium for donations. The
:20:41. > :20:46.next message was let's try and do a concert or something to raise funds.
:20:47. > :20:51.I grew up on the estate and I said, I grew up playing football around
:20:52. > :20:55.here, we are a football club, put on a football match. See how we can
:20:56. > :21:01.help. I know a lot of the victims are talking about not getting enough
:21:02. > :21:04.help and there is not enough care. I said to Tony, let's see if we can do
:21:05. > :21:10.something, get some people together and see if we can do something to
:21:11. > :21:16.help. How do you come into this market is? You did not know each
:21:17. > :21:25.other. I had a little miniature flares when I was a kid! --
:21:26. > :21:33.miniature of Les Ferdinand. When we met, I was like, your head is much
:21:34. > :21:40.Mahler. I live locally and I saw the Tower on that Wednesday morning.
:21:41. > :21:45.Like a lot of people who live in the area, I went down and was privileged
:21:46. > :21:49.enough to be in the room with survivors from the first day and met
:21:50. > :21:57.lots of different groups and watch them come together and start finding
:21:58. > :22:01.each other. Once having the privilege, then it led to a
:22:02. > :22:04.responsibility to stick around and try and find creative ways to try
:22:05. > :22:10.and support their process of healing. They have been through so
:22:11. > :22:14.much and it is hard to get your head around and why they need so much
:22:15. > :22:18.more support than there are currently getting. Part of thinking
:22:19. > :22:23.creatively was thinking over the summer, what can we do and we
:22:24. > :22:26.started talking to QPR about a game and they were amenable to the idea
:22:27. > :22:32.of helping to support a football programme over the summer for kids
:22:33. > :22:37.which we had done and it has been amazing. We did that at the Westway
:22:38. > :22:43.with QPR, Chelsea, full coaches all coming down to coach the children.
:22:44. > :22:46.It is a way for them to be occupied in the long summer months after the
:22:47. > :22:52.disaster and a bit of free childcare for the parents. It has been cool
:22:53. > :23:00.and that culminates in this Game4Grenfell. You are playing as
:23:01. > :23:05.well? I am managing one of the teams.
:23:06. > :23:10.CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Alan Shearer, there is some friendly rivalry there
:23:11. > :23:17.in Newcastle, is he going to be on the pitch? He broke his arm last
:23:18. > :23:24.week. Convenient! It is not a bad excuse. He is coming all the way
:23:25. > :23:28.from Newcastle because he wants to be part of it. He is going to
:23:29. > :23:33.manage, he was going to play because I was playing but then he broke his
:23:34. > :23:39.arm. So many people are coming down. There is quite a team. I am going to
:23:40. > :23:45.bring this end. Look at the team list. I will let everyone at home
:23:46. > :23:57.save. You have got some great names. Olly Murs. Tiny temper. Jarvis
:23:58. > :24:12.Cocker. Jamie Dornan. James Bay. Richard Ashcroft, a star-macro... --
:24:13. > :24:20.Serge Pizzorno. Today we were able to announce that Mo Farah will be
:24:21. > :24:27.playing as well. Linford Christie is coming down, he cannot play but he
:24:28. > :24:36.wants to support us. Are you playing, Marcus? I am, if he gives
:24:37. > :24:39.me a shot. His idea is to nutmeg me. What is that? It means put the ball
:24:40. > :24:44.through someone's legs get it on the other side. He does not realise, I
:24:45. > :24:50.am the manager! He might not get an opportunity to do it. What is the
:24:51. > :24:57.situation with tickets? How do people get them? Are there any left?
:24:58. > :25:01.There is still a lot available. On the website for Game4Grenfell. There
:25:02. > :25:05.are still tickets available. The point of this thing is to show
:25:06. > :25:11.support and love to this community that has been through a lot. It is a
:25:12. > :25:16.day to focus on something else, other than the tragedy. We really
:25:17. > :25:20.want to show support. We want to welcome people to the stadium. It
:25:21. > :25:25.will not end here. This is just part of it. We want to be supporting them
:25:26. > :25:30.through this, we want to put programmes on as well. It is not the
:25:31. > :25:34.be all and end all, it is one small part of supporting the community.
:25:35. > :25:38.They will need support for a long time and there are issues about
:25:39. > :25:41.housing, justice and honouring the memory of those who were lost and
:25:42. > :25:48.listening to survivors. APPLAUSE. For those who cannot get
:25:49. > :25:56.to the stadium, they can watch it. It is on Sky 1 and Pick. Good luck
:25:57. > :26:03.with the nutmeg! Whatever that means. Three o'clock on Sky 1. When
:26:04. > :26:06.Ian Lavine set out to researchers family tree, he could never have
:26:07. > :26:11.predicted that it could have branched out as much as it did. We
:26:12. > :26:17.sent route to Watford along with our cameras to capture the ultimate
:26:18. > :26:21.family photo -- Ruth Goodman. For two decades Iain Levine had been on
:26:22. > :26:29.a mission to find his extended family, who he thought had been
:26:30. > :26:37.virtually wiped out. My great grandfather was born in 1839, one of
:26:38. > :26:45.nine brothers. They were born in a little village in Latvia. While most
:26:46. > :26:50.of the family stayed in Latvia, Ian's great-great-grandfather came
:26:51. > :26:56.to England in the 1800, a move which saved Ian side of the family from
:26:57. > :27:01.the German invasion in World War II. In 1941, the Nazis came along and
:27:02. > :27:08.their mission was to march in and kill every Jewish person. We lost
:27:09. > :27:12.hundreds of Kuklas in the Holocaust. He wondered if any Latvian Kuklas
:27:13. > :27:21.had survived and set about finding their relatives. He managed to track
:27:22. > :27:26.them down in countries as far away as Australia, America, Russia and
:27:27. > :27:30.Israel. And today, hundreds of the descendants of the original nine
:27:31. > :27:36.Kuklas brothers are gathered for a family reunion. Take your
:27:37. > :27:40.photographs now, please, this is history, you will not have another
:27:41. > :27:47.chance. Nine different descendants here. What a fantastic thing to have
:27:48. > :27:51.all of them here today. The family thought they had no Kuklas left.
:27:52. > :27:55.Reuniting them, that makes my heart sing with joy. Many of these
:27:56. > :28:00.relatives had never met before, so how are they to tell who is related
:28:01. > :28:06.to which of the original nine brothers? Sixth generation Kukla has
:28:07. > :28:17.the answer? There are nine branches to this family. We have coded them
:28:18. > :28:21.in nine colours. Everyone gets a coloured lanyard and the colour will
:28:22. > :28:26.denote their line of descent. This woman has come all the way from
:28:27. > :28:31.Florida. She has been helping Ian bring together the ninth Kukla
:28:32. > :28:37.family trees. It is remarkably collaborative. And people Lee
:28:38. > :28:42.submitted their trees and our job was to assemble all these trees
:28:43. > :28:48.together into one. It is such fun and we are meeting people that we
:28:49. > :28:52.never knew existed. And hearing the stories, it is so interesting. And
:28:53. > :28:57.some of those stories are emerging for the first time. This man has
:28:58. > :29:01.only recently told his daughter about how he survived the Holocaust
:29:02. > :29:14.while others died at the hands of the Nazis. It was difficult to talk
:29:15. > :29:21.about it. Sure. He is joking. He told me how my grandfather was
:29:22. > :29:27.killed. And how my great-grandfather was burned with over 1200 people in
:29:28. > :29:32.a synagogue including other Kuklas from my family. There is a history
:29:33. > :29:39.here that binds this family together, like few others. The Kukla
:29:40. > :29:44.family tree is now 180 feet long and among those who found new relatives
:29:45. > :29:50.are Alexander and his sister from Israel. We thought that everyone was
:29:51. > :29:59.gone in the Holocaust. Two people with no people to two people with a
:30:00. > :30:03.huge family! Unbelievable. And as a memento of this time, when all the
:30:04. > :30:07.modern-day Kukla generations are brought together, they are taking a
:30:08. > :30:12.new family photograph, so very different from the last one. This
:30:13. > :30:18.reunion is a celebration of survival, a celebration of the nine
:30:19. > :30:22.brothers and also a tearful memory of all the ones who have died and
:30:23. > :30:26.been lost in the Holocaust. So many died, but so many survived. The
:30:27. > :30:29.stories of the Holocaust can be passed down the generation, we must
:30:30. > :30:36.never forget and allow the world to forget. Imagine the birthday cards!
:30:37. > :30:39.Imagine how much you would spend on stamps. If you have got a reunion
:30:40. > :30:43.story you would like us to live that or you want to trace a family
:30:44. > :30:49.member, e-mail us at the usual address and our team might be able
:30:50. > :30:58.to help. A big thank you to all of our guests this evening. The
:30:59. > :31:03.Game4Grenfell is on Saturday on sky one and Pick. You can see Holby City
:31:04. > :31:07.tonight. We will see you tomorrow with Professor Brian Cox. Goodbye.