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:00:21. > :00:36.Hello and welcome to the One Show with Angela Scanlon.

:00:37. > :00:43.If you have a swoon when you hear that,

:00:44. > :00:48.and it's become the soundtrack to loved-up couples everywhere.

:00:49. > :01:04.Thank you very much! It is a beautiful song. Tell us about the

:01:05. > :01:12.moment when you first bladed to your wife, Chrissy. I sang it to her in

:01:13. > :01:16.bed, and she started crying, but she didn't hear the recorded version for

:01:17. > :01:21.a little while. But I was really happy with it, I thought she might

:01:22. > :01:26.like it. I sang it for her, and she loved it. Is that the barometer, if

:01:27. > :01:32.you get emotion? Making her cry is too much of a bar, most of my songs

:01:33. > :01:38.would never get put out! I imagine you have got a piano at home, she is

:01:39. > :01:43.constantly hearing things. Most of my writing happens in the studio, I

:01:44. > :01:47.go to work, I feel like it is a work day, collaborate with other writers,

:01:48. > :01:50.we come up with ideas. She doesn't like to hear them until they are a

:01:51. > :01:54.little more further along, because she wants to hear them close to

:01:55. > :01:58.done, because she hates when she falls in love with the original demo

:01:59. > :02:03.version and then we change it, she hates that. She's like, wait until

:02:04. > :02:08.you are closer to done to play it. You were on piano yesterday, very

:02:09. > :02:15.lucky travellers at London's St Pancras! Wonderful! How does that

:02:16. > :02:21.piano compared to others? It was a good one! I have played a range of

:02:22. > :02:26.pianos, we had an old one, beat up in the house when I was growing up,

:02:27. > :02:33.I played on a church piano. That was out of tune halve the time. So

:02:34. > :02:38.everything is a step up from them! Did you enjoy that? I loved it! I

:02:39. > :02:43.loved it. They were so many surprise fans there, just on their commute,

:02:44. > :02:49.some of them coming in from Europe, but some of them just going to work.

:02:50. > :02:55.It was really cool to just interact with the fans that were there. We

:02:56. > :02:58.know you have quite a full trophy cabinet, ten Grammys, Golden Globes,

:02:59. > :03:03.an Oscar, but have you ever held one of these? Is that a gold medal? I

:03:04. > :03:12.have held one before, but they are pretty awesome! From Atlanta, this

:03:13. > :03:19.is cool! 20 years old. There are quite a few back there, there are

:03:20. > :03:25.loads! I carried the torch when you guys at the London Olympics, in

:03:26. > :03:28.Edinburgh. Yeah, so I ran with it for a while. Sir Steve Redgrave and

:03:29. > :03:33.James Cracknell have seven of them between them, and we will find out

:03:34. > :03:39.later why they are going head to head. And between the three of us,

:03:40. > :03:42.we have seven as well! Mark Watson and Sophie Raworth, they are here,

:03:43. > :03:45.we will find out what they have been doing in a boat.

:03:46. > :03:47.You may remember when a couple of weeks ago

:03:48. > :03:50.Ed Sheeran was in and met up with a six-year-old superfan Jaden,

:03:51. > :03:54.who was distraught that he couldn't get a ticket to see Ed play

:03:55. > :03:56.a very special charity gig for the Teenage Cancer Trust.

:03:57. > :03:58.Some of the tickets were later offered for huge mark-ups

:03:59. > :04:01.on the website Viagogo, even though it had been specifically asked

:04:02. > :04:11.Matt Allright is keen to get some answers.

:04:12. > :04:19.It is the night Ed Sheeran fans have been waiting for. He is playing a

:04:20. > :04:23.very special date at the Royal Albert Hall to raise funds for the

:04:24. > :04:26.Teenage Cancer Trust. Tonight is a complete sell-out, and these guys

:04:27. > :04:30.are not just turning out to sea edge Sheron but support a charity that

:04:31. > :04:34.helps kids when they are going through the Tavistock times. -- to

:04:35. > :04:40.see Ed Sheeran. The money from ticket sales is going to a trust,

:04:41. > :04:43.but not just the charity is profiting from this gig. Earlier

:04:44. > :04:50.this month, we revealed how online ticket resale site Viagogo allowed

:04:51. > :04:54.people to Celtic and for thousands of pounds, money which will not

:04:55. > :05:02.benefit sick young people. -- to sell tickets. The trust asked

:05:03. > :05:09.company not to let it happen. They have put people on the door to stop

:05:10. > :05:16.people with an official tickets getting in. -- unofficial. Tickets

:05:17. > :05:22.are only valid if fans have valid photo IDs which matches the person

:05:23. > :05:27.who bought the tickets. How do you feel about the extra restrictions?

:05:28. > :05:31.It is a good idea, especially because it is for a good cause. It

:05:32. > :05:37.is a charity gig, you shouldn't be able to sell them. To buy them from

:05:38. > :05:41.a tout and be rejected at the door, I would be heartbroken. We didn't

:05:42. > :05:48.find anyone with a unofficial ticket to add been turned away, but touts

:05:49. > :05:52.were still around. We saw one ticket reseller helping his buyer get in.

:05:53. > :05:57.We have just seen the loophole in the system, the tout walks in with

:05:58. > :06:01.his own IT, and now that guy, who was paid over the odds for a ticket,

:06:02. > :06:05.money that will not make it to the Teenage Cancer Trust, he is about to

:06:06. > :06:10.watch Ed Sheeran. We flagged this to the staff, but as the seller could

:06:11. > :06:15.match the name on the ticket, security had to let them in. The

:06:16. > :06:21.trust's director of fund-raising accents the system isn't perfect. I

:06:22. > :06:26.don't think any system is foolproof, we have done everything that we can,

:06:27. > :06:29.the music should be about people who want to support Teenage Cancer

:06:30. > :06:33.Trust, which is what these shows are all about. Meanwhile, the Government

:06:34. > :06:37.is currently reviewing the whole of the secondary ticketing sales

:06:38. > :06:43.market. Last week, Viagogo gave evidence at the Commons select

:06:44. > :06:46.committee, but it refused to attend. They do not believe they have

:06:47. > :06:53.adequate representation in the UK in order to assist the committee with

:06:54. > :06:58.its inquiries. That is odd, because the American band started the

:06:59. > :07:03.company in the UK. We started the business in Europe, and it moved

:07:04. > :07:06.over to London... When he set up Viagogo, he was living at this smart

:07:07. > :07:10.Knightsbridge address, and although the edge quarters are in Switzerland

:07:11. > :07:15.and Ireland, they have an office registered in London. When Eric is

:07:16. > :07:22.next in the country, I want to see if he will come into the show for a

:07:23. > :07:27.chat. Look at this, some tickets for Eric Baker to appear on the sofa as

:07:28. > :07:35.a guest. The beauty of these is that they are free! So let's see if he is

:07:36. > :07:43.at the Viagogo office in London. Hello, looking for Viagogo. Are they

:07:44. > :07:50.no longer here? They have moved, they have still got the lease.

:07:51. > :08:00.People like me? Tickets. We don't have any information to give.

:08:01. > :08:05.Security will not let our cameras into the office, but they let me

:08:06. > :08:09.have a look around. The desks are there, there is still signage, and

:08:10. > :08:14.there is also a load of male sitting on the table. At the top of the pile

:08:15. > :08:20.was a letter from the House of Commons, unopened, to the executive

:08:21. > :08:23.or chief executive of Viagogo. Maybe it was the invitation to join them

:08:24. > :08:31.at deselecting ready. So it seems Eric Baker and Viagogo are doing

:08:32. > :08:35.their best to avoid the spotlight. I think the clearest way to get the

:08:36. > :08:40.message to him is this, the tickets are here, you are welcome on the One

:08:41. > :08:44.Show any time to explain the situation with Viagogo and the

:08:45. > :08:51.Teenage Cancer Trust. You don't even need photo IDs, we know what you

:08:52. > :08:57.look like. Matt is with the us now, why did the

:08:58. > :09:01.House of Commons summon Viagogo and those other websites? If you are a

:09:02. > :09:06.music fan, you probably know the answer, if you have used these

:09:07. > :09:08.sites, people are reporting that they have very disappointing

:09:09. > :09:13.experiences, the tickets can be faked from time to time, the prices,

:09:14. > :09:16.you look at the prices of some of the tickets, they seem to be

:09:17. > :09:21.exorbitant, and sometimes people have booked through and can only

:09:22. > :09:24.work out what the prices when it is in front of them. All sorts of

:09:25. > :09:28.reasons why the House of Commons looked at this and thought it needed

:09:29. > :09:32.regulation. The House of Lords have been looking at it at well, what

:09:33. > :09:36.have they been discussing? In the last couple of days? They have

:09:37. > :09:39.brought in a couple of interesting amendments to strengthen consumer

:09:40. > :09:43.law to make sure that if there are restrictions on the tickets, things

:09:44. > :09:48.like partial viewing, those sorts of things, anything that might affect

:09:49. > :09:52.your decision to buy those tickets, that should be there upfront, terms

:09:53. > :09:57.and conditions, restrictions should be upfront. But they are also

:09:58. > :10:04.looking to outlaw software which can get around the restrictions, to be

:10:05. > :10:09.able to harvest these tickets in hundreds or thousands and then sell

:10:10. > :10:12.them on. How successful they can be to stop people using those is a

:10:13. > :10:17.different matter, but they are going to try to make it against the law.

:10:18. > :10:24.For you, your European tour tickets are going on sale tomorrow, this

:10:25. > :10:28.software is going to harvest them. Yeah, and we will get feedback on

:10:29. > :10:35.social media when fans asking, why are you charging $1000? We are not

:10:36. > :10:39.charging that amount, these resale sites are judging this exorbitant

:10:40. > :10:45.amount. We want our fans to pay a fair market price for the show, but

:10:46. > :10:48.we don't want these bots coming in, snatching up all the tickets, making

:10:49. > :10:52.them more scarce and then selling them to the highest bidder,

:10:53. > :10:57.capturing all the value, making it hard for people with regular incomes

:10:58. > :11:06.to come and see the show. There are some artists who are trying to sort

:11:07. > :11:11.it out. We try, it is hard. Talk to Iron Maiden, they say they have got

:11:12. > :11:14.rid of 90% of it. It is hard, there are electronic ways of stopping it

:11:15. > :11:21.from happening, but it is a challenge. Thank you for coming in,

:11:22. > :11:25.Matt. John, not only are you a talented songwriter, but an

:11:26. > :11:32.executive producer now, you can add La La Land to your long list of

:11:33. > :11:39.credits, let's see you in action. # I don't know what your name is

:11:40. > :11:46.# But I like it let's I don't know what to do

:11:47. > :11:55.# But I want to do it with you... # I enjoyed and too, it was fun.

:11:56. > :11:59.Oh! A lot of fans of La La Land in the house, did you realise when you

:12:00. > :12:04.were working on it that it was so special? Because, I mean, it has

:12:05. > :12:08.been... The positivity around it has been just bonkers. Well, when we

:12:09. > :12:12.were executive producing projects, you never know for sure that

:12:13. > :12:21.everything is going to line up perfectly, but it is great when you

:12:22. > :12:25.have a great director, which Damien is, Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone are

:12:26. > :12:29.fantastic, there was a great script, and you just hope you execute it in

:12:30. > :12:33.the right way, and personally, as an actor, I hadn't done a lot about

:12:34. > :12:37.before, it was my first major speaking role, so I took a lot of

:12:38. > :12:41.coaching, I wanted to make sure I was prepared, and I did all of that,

:12:42. > :12:45.and I felt really comfortable, belt really good, like I was surrounded

:12:46. > :12:52.by a great team. I felt great about it, but you never know how it is

:12:53. > :12:54.going to turn out, so many moving parts and so many people involved,

:12:55. > :12:59.but it really worked, it connected with a lot of people. And it has had

:13:00. > :13:05.that added publicity as well after the Oscars. Yeah! That was quite an

:13:06. > :13:09.ending! How did you put that into words? Well, the moment was crazy,

:13:10. > :13:13.because first of all you are thrilled, but there was that weird

:13:14. > :13:18.moment when Warren Beatty hesitated, and then Faye Dunaway hesitated, and

:13:19. > :13:23.it was all kind of a little bit weird, but then they said our name,

:13:24. > :13:28.so everything was good! We go up on stage, so excited, then you see a

:13:29. > :13:33.guy with a headset walking around, and you are like, something is

:13:34. > :13:37.wrong... I thought maybe they were walking us off the show, saying we

:13:38. > :13:44.were taking too long to accept the award. But no, it wasn't our award

:13:45. > :13:47.to win! There has got to be a song in there! By the time I figured out

:13:48. > :13:54.what was going on, it went from joy to confusion to, eventually, kind of

:13:55. > :14:00.just laughing at it, it was pretty absurd. If you couldn't laugh at it,

:14:01. > :14:06.then... You would cry! Yeah, channel it into your next album. This album

:14:07. > :14:11.has, the title, Darkness And Light, it is a very personal album. Sure! I

:14:12. > :14:16.was writing it as my wife was pregnant and we were about to have

:14:17. > :14:20.our first child, so some of that was in my mind, this is the first album

:14:21. > :14:27.I have written since I got married, so those emotions and those feelings

:14:28. > :14:31.were all in the album. Is it harder to put those feelings into music

:14:32. > :14:36.when you want to be so protective about your family? No - because I

:14:37. > :14:45.feel like, as an artist, you want to be honest when you are writing, you

:14:46. > :14:48.want to communicate real emotion, and feeling those real emotions and

:14:49. > :14:52.having those real situations to write about, I think that makes it

:14:53. > :14:56.easier to write. And that has always been aching for you, that sense of

:14:57. > :15:03.duty as an artist to reflect emotion. I want to write about that

:15:04. > :15:06.and what is happening in the world too, and I think as long as we are

:15:07. > :15:14.being honest, our fans will connect with what we are doing. Nina Simone

:15:15. > :15:17.has been a big inspiration. Yeah, we named our daughter Luna Simone, she

:15:18. > :15:23.is an artist I have always looked up to, an artist needs to reflect the

:15:24. > :15:28.time in which they live, that is a quote. I loved her voice, piano

:15:29. > :15:33.playing, her spirit of boldness, of not being categorised, not being

:15:34. > :15:38.able to be told to sit down and shut up. She spoke truth, she sang truth,

:15:39. > :15:44.and she was an inspiration for all creative people, I think.

:15:45. > :15:48.John's tour, Darkness And Light, kicks off in Glasgow, tickets go on

:15:49. > :15:51.sale tomorrow. John has come to Europe at a very

:15:52. > :15:56.interesting time in our history, with the UK leaving

:15:57. > :15:58.the European Union. As the process of arguing over

:15:59. > :15:59.every tiny detail begins, we asked three couples who've been

:16:00. > :16:15.through their own separation to The British people have spoken, and

:16:16. > :16:20.the answer is we are out. The first year of the marriage was perfect, we

:16:21. > :16:25.had two cats, we played tennis. It started it delicately, and then our

:16:26. > :16:30.busy lifestyles took over. This is an historic moment for which there

:16:31. > :16:36.can be no turning back. When our youngest was four, Tim met someone

:16:37. > :16:42.else, and then we split up. Europe is ready to start the divorce

:16:43. > :16:52.process. We didn't have any problems in our marriage. We just stopped.

:16:53. > :16:54.Well, one of us stopped. We must do everything we can to make the

:16:55. > :17:00.process of divorce the least painful. You go through pain, rage,

:17:01. > :17:04.grief, murderous intent, you want to kill the person, and then you have a

:17:05. > :17:07.point at which you just have to decide you are going to be very

:17:08. > :17:12.practical for the future relationship you are going to have.

:17:13. > :17:16.The emotional turmoil was that everybody. We handle our own

:17:17. > :17:21.divorce, and cried our hearts out, because we just couldn't understand

:17:22. > :17:26.that life just got so busy that... We forgot what was important.

:17:27. > :17:30.TRANSLATION: Anyone who wants to leave this family can't expect to

:17:31. > :17:35.leave their responsibility was keeping all their privileges. Then

:17:36. > :17:41.the negotiations about who will keep the cats, who will get the CDs. It

:17:42. > :17:45.was important to retain a friendship, because Tim is the

:17:46. > :17:49.father of the children. It is really important that both people come out

:17:50. > :17:56.of it sensing fairness, because that is going to be your relationship for

:17:57. > :17:59.the next 20, 30, 40 years. I also want to be clear, here today and

:18:00. > :18:04.across Europe in the weeks ahead, that we are not walking away from

:18:05. > :18:08.our European friends. It was full of anguish and grief, all of those

:18:09. > :18:13.things that come with a break-up, of course. But you have to keep

:18:14. > :18:17.channels open, and it helped in both of our situation is that we were not

:18:18. > :18:21.going to other partners. There was a time even at the beginning when I

:18:22. > :18:25.felt that my friendship with Tim were so important that I would still

:18:26. > :18:29.be his friend no matter what. Even though we were going off and doing

:18:30. > :18:32.our own things, we were always on the phone together, always friends,

:18:33. > :18:37.and we would talk to each other about our new partners, that kind of

:18:38. > :18:41.which sounds bizarre, but they would never quite match up to each other.

:18:42. > :18:46.Different guys I have been very into, Tim has advised me on

:18:47. > :18:52.different stuff. I don't have any partner. I tried not to be a monk,

:18:53. > :18:56.but age has taken its toll. I want the deal to reflect the kind of

:18:57. > :19:02.mature, corporative relationship that close friends and allies

:19:03. > :19:04.enjoyed. It is important inside a break-up to remember what it was

:19:05. > :19:08.that attracted you to the other person in the first place and to

:19:09. > :19:13.hang onto those values and then to continue to use them and develop

:19:14. > :19:17.them. You can't go back. You have to live with the choices you have made.

:19:18. > :19:22.However painful they were forever body. Happiness and love is more

:19:23. > :19:26.important than anything else in the world. We just realise that anyone

:19:27. > :19:33.else that we met couldn't that up, really, so we made a decision. To

:19:34. > :19:36.get back together again! We married about four years ago, blissfully

:19:37. > :19:43.happy. Thank you to all of the Couples,

:19:44. > :19:46.lovely that Julie and Martin are back together, but that's not a

:19:47. > :19:51.reflection of what we think will with Brexit. My parents got divorced

:19:52. > :19:57.and got back together. But then they got divorced again! Well, they gave

:19:58. > :20:03.it a good shot. We are not saying that that is a good reflect on,

:20:04. > :20:10.either. Who is most likely to win an argument in your house? Chrissy, of

:20:11. > :20:16.course! Apparently, she is burning down the house while you are away.

:20:17. > :20:20.Apparently my mother-in-law was making sausages and they started a

:20:21. > :20:27.fire, but we have a lot of sting wishes of the house. Everyone is

:20:28. > :20:34.still alive, and the house is still intact. -- a lot of extinguishers.

:20:35. > :20:36.People will find out who is in charge!

:20:37. > :20:39.In a moment, we'll be catching up with Sir Steve, James,

:20:40. > :20:42.Mark and Sophie, who have taken part in the first ever UK Cancer Reseach

:20:43. > :20:54.That's after JJ Chalmers has shown us how a hidden masterpiece

:20:55. > :21:03.Throughout its history, the British military has had to face a hard

:21:04. > :21:08.truth. With war comes casualties. I should know. In 2011 while serving

:21:09. > :21:12.as a Royal Marine in Afghanistan, a roadside bomb blew away part of my

:21:13. > :21:16.hand, broke my neck and changed my world forever. The care I received

:21:17. > :21:21.in hospital not only saved my life, it allowed me to continue living it

:21:22. > :21:26.to the full. 300 years ago, things would have been different, and I

:21:27. > :21:30.probably would have ended up here. Known today as the Old Royal Naval

:21:31. > :21:34.College, this imposing building on the banks of the River Thames in

:21:35. > :21:38.Greenwich was originally built to care for Britain's injured and

:21:39. > :21:42.ageing sailors. And at its heart is a painting of monumental importance,

:21:43. > :21:48.and overlooked masterpiece which is now being brought back to life. It

:21:49. > :21:54.is just spectacular. More than I expected. Every single inch is

:21:55. > :22:02.covered in artwork that is just... It is epic. Spanning over 4000

:22:03. > :22:07.square metres, this colossal mural is the largest painted interior in

:22:08. > :22:13.Britain, and took nearly two decades to complete. Dr Matthews is the

:22:14. > :22:20.creator studying -- jury to studying what has been called Britain's

:22:21. > :22:23.Sistine Chapel. Who created this? He was a fascinating figure, Sir James

:22:24. > :22:29.Thornhill, an ambitious young artist from Dorset, and he was chosen to

:22:30. > :22:31.take this extraordinary mural over more glamorous Italian and French

:22:32. > :22:37.decorative painters. How important is this please? It is hugely

:22:38. > :22:41.important. It is a snapshot of our national history at the beginning of

:22:42. > :22:48.the 18th century. We are at war with the French, and you even have the

:22:49. > :22:56.new Protestant monarchs, William and Mary. Nowadays we are quite reserved

:22:57. > :23:00.in Britain, but this is so butch. There is nothing subtle about it at

:23:01. > :23:03.all. Work started on the painting in 1708, but 300 years of direct

:23:04. > :23:09.sunlight and pollution have taken their toll. Now an ?8.5 million

:23:10. > :23:13.renovation is hoping to restore this masterpiece to its former glory. The

:23:14. > :23:18.most challenging phase focuses on the 500 square metres ceiling. A

:23:19. > :23:24.viewing platform has been erected to allow access, and The One Show has

:23:25. > :23:30.been given an opportunity to see it up close. Look at this! It is the

:23:31. > :23:36.latest in a long line of restoration attempts, the most recent of which

:23:37. > :23:40.was captured by the BBC in 1958. It is extremely hard and difficult

:23:41. > :23:44.work. When it is fully restored, it will be splendid. Six decades later,

:23:45. > :23:48.a new team of conservatives is trying to turn back the clock. So

:23:49. > :23:53.what is it that you are trying to do now? We are happy to deal with the

:23:54. > :23:58.previous 60 years of dust and grime that has been accumulating. The key

:23:59. > :24:04.thing is to remove the dirt, but without in any way affecting the

:24:05. > :24:08.underlying original painting. This is a USB microscope which gives us

:24:09. > :24:12.around 100 times magnification, which is wonderful for

:24:13. > :24:19.characterising some of the surface quality. You can really see the

:24:20. > :24:22.damage in the cracks. Exactly. It picks up the dust and dirt in

:24:23. > :24:31.microscopic detail, but it also shows the natural ageing of this

:24:32. > :24:36.300-year-old painting. And just like in the 1950s, the laborious process

:24:37. > :24:40.of restoration is mainly done by hand. This is some of your team at

:24:41. > :24:48.work. Yes, this is Francesca and Eliza, doing some very wonderful

:24:49. > :24:51.water cleaning. Just water. And they are withdrawing a considerable

:24:52. > :24:55.amount of dirt on their swabs. This is a wonderful opportunity to invite

:24:56. > :24:59.the public to come and see conservation in action, for the

:25:00. > :25:04.first time. We have a lift to allow wheelchair access up onto the deck,

:25:05. > :25:07.so everybody can enjoy this work of art. As a former member of the Armed

:25:08. > :25:11.Forces, particularly the senior service, the Navy, and just being

:25:12. > :25:15.British, coming it gives me an enormous sense of right, but what is

:25:16. > :25:18.really special is that everybody can get a chance to come face-to-face

:25:19. > :25:22.with one of the nation's greatest artworks.

:25:23. > :25:27.You can see the Painted Hall Ceiling Tour at the Old Royal Naval

:25:28. > :25:31.We are joined by two sporting legends and their proteges -

:25:32. > :25:36.Sir Steve Redgrave, James Cracknell, Mark Watson and Sophie Raworth.

:25:37. > :25:45.Sophie, what have you been doing with this lot?

:25:46. > :25:54.We were asked to take part in the first celebrity boat race in the

:25:55. > :25:57.name of Cancer research, and we did one section of the boat race, so we

:25:58. > :26:03.literally did Putney to Hammersmith Bridge, a boat of eight, five

:26:04. > :26:08.complete novices, me, Gethin Jones, Vernon Kay and the like, and there

:26:09. > :26:13.we are. We are wearing the pink outfits. We had a couple of training

:26:14. > :26:19.sessions, that was it, and then straight in. And you were capped in,

:26:20. > :26:23.Sophie? I didn't realise I was captain until I read it in the

:26:24. > :26:31.newspaper later! We had Andrew Triggs-Hodge in the boat, and

:26:32. > :26:38.Olympian who had just won in Rio, so I was captain in name only. And

:26:39. > :26:45.James Comey how did she get an? It was very much like rowing with

:26:46. > :26:48.Steve, actually! And then she legged it to go and read the news. So

:26:49. > :26:51.positive! You had some unorthodox

:26:52. > :27:02.advice on how your team That is one way of putting it. Five

:27:03. > :27:05.complete novices, and a lot of moving parts, the tide, the

:27:06. > :27:09.currents, all the boat getting lined up in the first place, I realised if

:27:10. > :27:18.you jump the start, they were not going to call you back, so I said,

:27:19. > :27:23.just start, and they won't call you back, don't stop! Let's turn to

:27:24. > :27:24.Steve. Our Michelle and Dan Snow

:27:25. > :27:27.were on your team. He rowed the Boat Race for real

:27:28. > :27:37.as a student, of course, The whole idea was to have one

:27:38. > :27:43.session, and then there would be a session before the race and then the

:27:44. > :27:48.race on the same day. But rowing is all about practice, and to get

:27:49. > :27:52.people from complete novices into a race situation is almost impossible.

:27:53. > :28:00.I have been coaching on and off for 40 years, and I have never met

:28:01. > :28:05.anybody like mark before. That is sort of what you dream about Steve

:28:06. > :28:14.Redgrave staying about you. Did you have an issue with the oar? I just

:28:15. > :28:19.had trouble rowing the boat! It's what we call catching a crab in the

:28:20. > :28:22.game, so I managed to bruise a rib quite badly before we've got on the

:28:23. > :28:26.boat, and it went downhill from there. The first session was a

:28:27. > :28:29.matter of saying, I can't row, and I thought I would be a K because there

:28:30. > :28:33.were strong rowers in the team, but they said the boat can only go at

:28:34. > :28:38.the speed of the weakest rower, and another a lot of thinking to do! I

:28:39. > :28:39.had to come in for extra sessions. Is speeded up quite considerably

:28:40. > :28:42.now. We'll have to wait until Sunday

:28:43. > :28:45.to find out which team won, so we're going to have a race

:28:46. > :28:49.of our own with these two sub teams. Brains provided by team coaches

:28:50. > :28:51.Redgrave and Cracknell, and brawn I think Sophie and I should switch

:28:52. > :29:02.places. That is not the point! Rowers, you've got one minute to row

:29:03. > :29:05.as many metres as you can. Meanwhile your teammates

:29:06. > :29:06.will be answering questions Each question is worth a 20-metre

:29:07. > :29:10.bonus, so it's important to be What's George Clooney's most

:29:11. > :29:19.important supporting role Which country's experiencing

:29:20. > :29:32.a baby boom after beating Iceland, nine months

:29:33. > :29:35.after their 2-1 victory. Which English town was described as

:29:36. > :29:37.being the most normal and average? John Legend give a surprise concert

:29:38. > :30:04.yesterday in what train station? What sport is returning to our TV

:30:05. > :30:07.screens after a 30 year absence? Wrestling!

:30:08. > :30:11.Gordon Ramsay recently said he never eats what kind of food?

:30:12. > :30:40.It is 2-2. 250 on mark's side, 200 on Sophie's, so Mark and Steve Wynn!

:30:41. > :30:42.You guys got competitive down there, I can see the sweat!

:30:43. > :30:46.APPLAUSE Thanks for joining us, John,

:30:47. > :30:48.and good luck with the tour. Don't forget you can tune

:30:49. > :30:51.in to the Boat Race on Sunday from 4pm on BBC One to see

:30:52. > :30:54.which of these teams won the Cancer Research UK

:30:55. > :31:01.Celebrity Boat Race. And I'll be back tomorrow

:31:02. > :31:03.with Richard Osman for a packed Friday show with David Suchet,

:31:04. > :31:06.Gemma Whelan and a special Marine Le Pen has her eyes

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:31:25. > :31:25.It's a little baby. Animals - must we really

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