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:00:20. > :00:26.Hello and welcome to the One Show, with Ore and Alex Jones. Tonight, we

:00:27. > :00:31.are joined by a man who, according to his wife, isn't very good at

:00:32. > :00:35.housework but is a good politician. It is up to you to decide whether

:00:36. > :00:39.she is right about the politics, but tonight we can find out how handy he

:00:40. > :00:42.is a roundhouse and more, as we welcome Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of

:00:43. > :00:47.the Labour Party. APPLAUSE

:00:48. > :00:53.Good evening, Jeremy. Nice to have you with us. Nice to be here, thanks

:00:54. > :00:59.for inviting me. Pleasure. Let's get it out of the way, BBC impartiality

:01:00. > :01:07.and all that, we have to ask - boys' and girls' jobs do you have an in

:01:08. > :01:12.your house? No. Who trims the hedge that we see a lot on the television

:01:13. > :01:18.outside your house, is it you? You have to let the plants grow a bit.

:01:19. > :01:25.It sometimes looks a bit overgrown. Do you know what was there before?

:01:26. > :01:30.Know, pray tell. A lump of concrete. It was an entrance to a garage.

:01:31. > :01:37.Someone must have been parking their cars, because the concrete was that

:01:38. > :01:50.thick. If you only you were here last night, we were talking about

:01:51. > :01:54.greening Great Britain. I greened a bit of Great Britain and made it

:01:55. > :02:03.less grey. You like let's talk elections, briefly, if we have to.

:02:04. > :02:05.Nine days away, you won't need reminding, does the prospect of

:02:06. > :02:09.Theresa May calling up, conceding defeat and offering the keys of

:02:10. > :02:15.number ten fill you with fear or unbridled joy?

:02:16. > :02:19.Hope of what we can do and the way we can change things in this

:02:20. > :02:22.company. I am proud of the way we have run this campaign and the

:02:23. > :02:26.policies we have put forward. There are nine days ago and I will be all

:02:27. > :02:31.over the country putting that message out. I only asked the

:02:32. > :02:36.question because, rightly or some people have said you have not always

:02:37. > :02:41.gone out of your way to be the Prime Minister, rather being an activist.

:02:42. > :02:45.There is a difference. I have been active in politics, human rights and

:02:46. > :02:50.many things all my life, representing the same constituency

:02:51. > :02:53.since 1983, and I get an awful lot of comfort, support, advice, help

:02:54. > :02:58.and knowledge from the people that I represent, and I think if you are to

:02:59. > :03:04.lead, you have to be prepared to listen as well, and I enjoyed that.

:03:05. > :03:11.Did I ever set out in line to become Prime Minister? No. I set out to try

:03:12. > :03:15.and change things and bring about greater justice in our society. I

:03:16. > :03:19.was elected and re-elected as leader of the party, and I'm proud to lead

:03:20. > :03:24.the party, and I'm giving it everything I can to win this

:03:25. > :03:28.election. We think, from a young age, because you have brought some

:03:29. > :03:34.pictures along tonight... Oh, dear! I know this is a private discussion

:03:35. > :03:46.and we are having, just as three, where did you get them? You brought

:03:47. > :03:50.them with you! It's a good source! This picture here, you as a young

:03:51. > :03:55.boy. More than a touch of the dispatch box there, don't you think?

:03:56. > :03:58.The left arm is in a very strong position, obviously waiting to bring

:03:59. > :04:10.some notes out of a pocket, wouldn't you say? You notice the so incorrect

:04:11. > :04:17.rains that are being held in the pram. Is it a harness? Yes, I was a

:04:18. > :04:23.bit free-spirited and kept climbing out of the pram and running off.

:04:24. > :04:38.That doesn't surprise us. It's nice to see that you got three. Free. You

:04:39. > :04:44.have had some very negative publicity, what effect does it have

:04:45. > :04:47.on your family? Loved ones always have unreasonable pressure put on

:04:48. > :04:51.them, and they always have done, all my life. I have a great deal of

:04:52. > :04:56.sympathy with them and a great deal of thanks to give everyone of them,

:04:57. > :04:59.because intrusion in my life is not nice, but I am an elected

:05:00. > :05:06.politician, I am there, and it goes with the territory, you say. But the

:05:07. > :05:11.wider family, it's not fair, and I wish some of the media would just

:05:12. > :05:15.draw some boundaries. Thank you for showing us the pictures, and there

:05:16. > :05:21.are plenty more to go through. Have you got ones that I don't know about

:05:22. > :05:41.as well? We may have. We will be talking plenty about what makes

:05:42. > :05:53.Jeromy Pantic tonight -- Jeremy tick. Our first film is about a

:05:54. > :05:58.banker with a difference. Here in Edinburgh, the Reverend Ian

:05:59. > :06:03.May is on a mission. It is everyone, not just poor people. To find people

:06:04. > :06:10.interested in a new type of bank. A new community bank, opening in

:06:11. > :06:17.Leith. Ian established the bank in 2015 to give other lenders on the

:06:18. > :06:27.high street a run for their money. I have spotted pawnshops. We want to

:06:28. > :06:31.say that, yes, these are options, but they could be expensive.

:06:32. > :06:38.Community banks are a new take on an old idea. Locally run credit unions,

:06:39. > :06:43.which used members' savings to give loans at competitive rates, have

:06:44. > :06:46.been around for a long time. Castle Community has permission from the

:06:47. > :06:49.financial regulator to brand itself as a bank, with the hope of

:06:50. > :06:55.appealing to as many people as possible. It is Ian's knowledge from

:06:56. > :06:59.his previous career which got them off to a flying start. Ten years

:07:00. > :07:04.ago, he was a city banker on a 6-figure salary, but gave it up

:07:05. > :07:12.after Ray revelation aboard his yacht. We were having a glass or

:07:13. > :07:20.two, and I turned to my wife and said, this is crazy, not a lifestyle

:07:21. > :07:23.we should be having. Ian decided he could use his banking experience to

:07:24. > :07:27.help the wider community. We come across a lot of people who are

:07:28. > :07:34.struggling. They are having to use payday loans and other high cost

:07:35. > :07:46.lenders to get by. Jill Baxendale has first-hand experience of

:07:47. > :07:52.crippling finance. -- Joe Baxendale. What did it cost you? ?62.20 a

:07:53. > :07:58.month. I was working at the time, but when I stopped working, that

:07:59. > :08:07.became a bit steep. Joe also took out an unsecured loan with a 49.9%

:08:08. > :08:14.interest rate. The loan I took out was to facilitate a repair to the

:08:15. > :08:21.car. Between the two, it was costing me ?130 a month. A lot of money.

:08:22. > :08:24.Castle Community Bank were able to give Joe a lone better than his

:08:25. > :08:34.current rate, but still higher than most high banks. So their terms were

:08:35. > :08:42.more attractive? Going from 60 something percent down to 18% was a

:08:43. > :08:46.rather big saving. Jo is just one of around 1600 customers now benefiting

:08:47. > :08:52.from the community bank. Alistair Ramsay is the manager in its

:08:53. > :08:57.Craigmillar branch. What are the financial services you offer to

:08:58. > :09:00.people in this area? Savings and loans, very simple. The

:09:01. > :09:06.nitty-gritty. How does this differ from most high-street banks? We can

:09:07. > :09:12.only lend out what we get in from the community. For people who want

:09:13. > :09:17.to borrow, you may be more likely to get a loan from us than from a major

:09:18. > :09:24.bank. You are my first customer today. How much are you putting in

:09:25. > :09:27.today? Savers are protected by the Financial Conduct Authority. Ronald

:09:28. > :09:32.Gunn was saving at a high-street bank but switched last year. What

:09:33. > :09:37.made you become an account holder? When I got my pension, I thought, I

:09:38. > :09:44.have got enough money and I can put some in to help other people that

:09:45. > :09:48.need a loan without paying too much interest. It is only 18 months since

:09:49. > :09:53.the bank was launched, but already, the signs are looking good. Unlike

:09:54. > :09:59.Ian's previous banking life, he doesn't take a cut of the profits.

:10:00. > :10:03.What is the bank currently worth? We are approaching about ?1 million in

:10:04. > :10:07.assets. What is the long-term plan? Just now, we are trying to do the

:10:08. > :10:12.right thing and grow steadily and responsibly. We are opening a branch

:10:13. > :10:15.in Leith shortly. I think we need to be here in Leith, in the heart of

:10:16. > :10:23.the community, of the people we want to serve. What do you think?

:10:24. > :10:27.Something smaller locally is better. I will be interested to hear what

:10:28. > :10:32.the options are. Is this something you would consider? No idea. -- no

:10:33. > :10:37.doubt about it. We need something like that in this area. There seems

:10:38. > :10:41.to be enthusiasm for this type of bank, and I wouldn't be surprised

:10:42. > :10:47.if, in the future, this type of bank was to become a more familiar sight

:10:48. > :10:51.on the high Street. We saw the Reverend Ian there, a big

:10:52. > :10:57.lifestyle change was not what is the biggest thing you have changed your

:10:58. > :11:00.mind over? I think it is great. I support our credit union because it

:11:01. > :11:05.helps people get a loan that they would not otherwise get, and it

:11:06. > :11:13.helps people to deal with fine as and manage their lives. -- to deal

:11:14. > :11:17.with financed. In terms of attitude, I think my basic attitudes and

:11:18. > :11:23.principles are pretty much as they've always been. I think what

:11:24. > :11:27.happens is, as a young person, you tend to adopt or develop political

:11:28. > :11:31.views and often become quite judgmental of others, and I think

:11:32. > :11:35.the more you go through life, no less judgmental you are, and I am

:11:36. > :11:40.fascinated by meeting an enormous variety of people and learning

:11:41. > :11:45.something from them. Everybody you meet has a different experience in

:11:46. > :11:49.some way. And something to offer. And they know something you don't.

:11:50. > :11:53.You have to be prepared to listen to others, and that I find absolutely

:11:54. > :12:00.fascinating, and I store all this stuff away. As a child, I learn

:12:01. > :12:05.something from a very old man. I used to be a paperboy on a Sunday in

:12:06. > :12:10.rural Shropshire. Around that age? No. You like you look like you have

:12:11. > :12:16.the measure of stuff. You look cheeky, if you don't mind my saying!

:12:17. > :12:19.The spots and all that. I don't know what the thing is on my tea. It

:12:20. > :12:26.doesn't look nice. I will put it down to camera. The technology was

:12:27. > :12:30.bad. I wasn't delivering papers at that age. I was older. Rural

:12:31. > :12:37.Shropshire, you grew up, mum and dad. I was born in the West Country,

:12:38. > :12:42.and then we moved when my dad got a job. I also had a family of six

:12:43. > :12:49.growing up, so busy household? Can I talk about this later? It's sort of

:12:50. > :12:55.why we're here. A lovely picture of the six of you and a candlelit

:12:56. > :13:07.dinner. Good memories? Yes, that was my grandad, and it was for his 80th

:13:08. > :13:15.birthday. He died a year later than that, and he grew up in Sunderland,

:13:16. > :13:19.born in Lowestoft, and later moved to London. He was a solicitor in

:13:20. > :13:26.Ealing, and he was known as the poor man's lawyer. I learned quite a bit

:13:27. > :13:30.from him. Your parents, they met at a rally, didn't they, in support of

:13:31. > :13:37.Spanish Republicans? You must inherit a lot of your politics from

:13:38. > :13:41.them. They were alarmed by the rise of fascism in Europe, and alarmed by

:13:42. > :13:46.what was going on in Spain, and they met at any dent in Conway Hall in

:13:47. > :13:51.London in support of the elective republican Government in Spain,

:13:52. > :13:55.which was then under threat and was eventually destroyed by the invasion

:13:56. > :14:01.of Franco's forces, supported by the Nazis, and they met there. They had

:14:02. > :14:07.strong views, but they never pushed the views down our throats at all.

:14:08. > :14:12.They were very much liberal thinkers who believes people should think for

:14:13. > :14:16.themselves and discover themselves and a path for themselves, so we

:14:17. > :14:21.were brought up to think for ourselves, read for ourselves and do

:14:22. > :14:27.for ourselves, and be ourselves. I try to carry on in that tradition.

:14:28. > :14:30.Did you read enough? You went to a private prep school and a grammar

:14:31. > :14:36.school. It can't be true, but they tell me you left for two years. It

:14:37. > :14:41.cannot be true! I have got the certificates at home! LAUGHTER

:14:42. > :14:48.I was not academically successful as a student. Was that you kicking back

:14:49. > :14:53.against the system...? My mother was an ever generous lady, and I said,

:14:54. > :14:58.well, these are pretty poor, these results, she looked at me and she

:14:59. > :15:05.said, they probably couldn't read your writing... (!) LAUGHTER

:15:06. > :15:12.I was always interested in history, and always interested in the great

:15:13. > :15:17.movements of history and the history of different parts of the world.

:15:18. > :15:20.Being generous to myself here, I probably wrote over long answers to

:15:21. > :15:26.one question because I was quite interested in the subject and forgot

:15:27. > :15:32.the rest. Big fail. We have all been there. And then I would read lots of

:15:33. > :15:37.things, I love the local library, where I spent a lot of time. You

:15:38. > :15:42.went to Jamaica. Yes, where is the picture? We've got it. That's me!

:15:43. > :15:47.Not many people know about this chapter in your life. See the

:15:48. > :15:51.camera, see me there, it was a brilliant camera, the only problem,

:15:52. > :15:55.it had a light leak in it, but you did not know until you had sent the

:15:56. > :16:00.film to be processed and printed, and so you would get 24, 36

:16:01. > :16:05.pictures, each one with a gap at the top like that, made it look like a

:16:06. > :16:08.halo over every subject you photograph. This photograph was

:16:09. > :16:13.taken by somebody else, that is Kingston College in Jamaica, that is

:16:14. > :16:17.me. I was a volunteer, it was called voluntary service overseas, VSO,

:16:18. > :16:24.good organisation, and clearly wasn't going to get into university

:16:25. > :16:31.with two Es... (!) LAUGHTER We don't want to labour the point. I

:16:32. > :16:35.was looking around, I found something out about this

:16:36. > :16:38.organisation, VSO, I found the leaflet, I wrote to them and they

:16:39. > :16:43.sent me some stuff and then I realised that you could apply as a

:16:44. > :16:48.school lever to go abroad, to volunteer. And so I went for a very

:16:49. > :16:52.weird interview with a lot of people. -- leaver. They said

:16:53. > :16:56.something like, how do you feel about chickens being slaughtered, no

:16:57. > :17:00.idea why it I was asked this question, I said, I'm not very keen

:17:01. > :17:04.on it, I'm a vegetarian, but if people want to eat meat, that is up

:17:05. > :17:09.to them. They said, that's OK, we will give you the position. They

:17:10. > :17:13.wrote me a letter afterwards, very kind of them. A lot of long letters

:17:14. > :17:18.being written at this point in your life. There was no e-mail in those

:17:19. > :17:24.days. No mobile phone. And so I was asked if I would be paired to go to

:17:25. > :17:28.Malawi, which I would, very happy to do, farming and youth work there.

:17:29. > :17:33.Coming from a rural area that was sensible, that was a good idea, and

:17:34. > :17:36.I was used, so therefore, I could work with the youth. They change

:17:37. > :17:41.their minds and they said, two days before I was supposed to go, sorry,

:17:42. > :17:47.would you go to Jamaica, instead. I said, fine, that's all right. So I

:17:48. > :17:52.went, about one week later, and I was given a series of tasks which

:17:53. > :17:56.were to help in the school, which was wonderful, to help with youth

:17:57. > :18:01.work and camping for the Duke of Edinburgh award, and also

:18:02. > :18:05.volunteering to help in a polio support centre for children who have

:18:06. > :18:10.suffered polio, because polio was tragically quite a big issue in

:18:11. > :18:16.Jamaica, also volunteered to help in a theatre, producing Jamaican plays,

:18:17. > :18:20.five, six years after independence. A big chapter, lots of people don't

:18:21. > :18:24.know about it. I am trying to supervise sports activities in the

:18:25. > :18:29.school there. With your camera. We have lots more pictures coming your

:18:30. > :18:32.way, shortly... No, we haven't, really! LAUGHTER

:18:33. > :18:39.We have got to move on. With a story that is close to your heart, Jeremy,

:18:40. > :18:43.it is about trains. VOICEOVER: Four o'clock in the morning, I'm with a

:18:44. > :18:46.team of final engineers, at the box railway tunnel in Wiltshire, to

:18:47. > :18:52.answer a great British engineering mystery. Normally, it would be in

:18:53. > :18:58.credibly foolish, not to mention criminal to walk here, that is

:18:59. > :19:02.because trains thunder along these tracks between Bath and Twickenham

:19:03. > :19:07.at 125 mph. Today they have been stopped for engineering works,

:19:08. > :19:11.giving us the chance to conduct a very date specific experiment.

:19:12. > :19:17.Today, June nine -- April nine, would have been the 211 the Bay of

:19:18. > :19:20.Isambard Kingdom Ronaldo and it is believed that he engineered the box

:19:21. > :19:24.tunnel so that every year on his birthday, the rising Sun would shine

:19:25. > :19:30.directly through from one end to the other, creating an astonishing

:19:31. > :19:33.effect. The spectacle has not been seen for 175 years because GW are

:19:34. > :19:38.trains have denied that the opportunity to stand and look. Does

:19:39. > :19:41.it really happen? -- GWR. The rumour began one year after the tunnel was

:19:42. > :19:47.completed, prompted by just one eyewitness account. Luke Holm is, at

:19:48. > :19:51.Bristol's Brunel Institute, has tracked it down. We were able to

:19:52. > :19:57.find a small reference in the railway Times, 1842. At least one

:19:58. > :20:00.person has seen the elimination shine through the tunnel. The sun

:20:01. > :20:05.shone through as though the whole tunnel had been guilt. Did he have

:20:06. > :20:10.formed doing this? -- gilt. -- Luke Holmes. There is a real appetite for

:20:11. > :20:13.innovation and doing something different, he is a great risk taker.

:20:14. > :20:19.He likes to challenge the form of engineering. If he sees a design

:20:20. > :20:23.that he feels will work, he feels the need to almost dogmatically go

:20:24. > :20:27.after that design, ignoring all the problems in his way. Many of

:20:28. > :20:33.Brunel's successes were world-renowned engineering firsts

:20:34. > :20:37.when they were built. The Clifton suspension Bridge had the longest

:20:38. > :20:43.span in the world, BSS Great Britain was the largest ionship, and the box

:20:44. > :20:47.tunnel was the longest railway tunnel, but will the sun really

:20:48. > :20:52.shine all the way through it today, on Brunel's birthday. -- the SS

:20:53. > :20:56.Great Britain. Joining me from new civil engineer magazine, Mark

:20:57. > :21:03.Hansford. We wait for the sun to rise. Is it possible? Absolutely, we

:21:04. > :21:06.did the numbers, use the charts that Brunel had available, showing the

:21:07. > :21:11.inclination of the sun in the sky at this time of year and it shows that

:21:12. > :21:17.the sun does track through the route of the tunnel, at this time of year.

:21:18. > :21:22.So, let's see. We wait at the western end, another team based at

:21:23. > :21:25.the eastern end watches the sun rising.

:21:26. > :21:32.I can definitely see the other end of the tunnel has lit up a little

:21:33. > :21:36.bit but I am not seeing the big blow, the dramatic effect that we

:21:37. > :21:40.perhaps are expecting. The sun has not shone all the way through to our

:21:41. > :21:45.western end of the tunnel. But as it comes up, our team at the eastern

:21:46. > :21:49.end is witnessing something rather special:

:21:50. > :21:56.the sun moves across the tunnel opening, getting more and more

:21:57. > :22:03.central, until, at one point, it is framed perfectly by the arch of the

:22:04. > :22:04.tunnel, and light floods in. So I would like to think that maybe,

:22:05. > :22:12.Brunel did design it this way. We have no idea if he saw the tunnel

:22:13. > :22:15.light up or whether he planned for it to, but what a special way to

:22:16. > :22:18.celebrate the great engineer's birthday.

:22:19. > :22:26.STUDIO: That is stunning. Absolutely lovely. Box tunnel. Absolutely

:22:27. > :22:31.beautiful. I grew up near there, I was born near box tunnel,

:22:32. > :22:36.Chippenham. We don't just throw this together, we knew that. LAUGHTER

:22:37. > :22:40.So you mean this is not just random good luck, this is thought out? We

:22:41. > :22:46.know that you love trains and that you have a strong passion for

:22:47. > :22:52.decorative manhole and drain covers! Takes all sorts... Don't you?

:22:53. > :22:57.LAUGHTER After this game, we will. Three

:22:58. > :23:01.manhole covers, each for you, each will reveal a question, pick your

:23:02. > :23:08.first. I will go for number one. You know that one... Thomas... The

:23:09. > :23:12.famous one. Of course. Don't labour the point...! Otherwise we might get

:23:13. > :23:23.into trouble. It is you in an Arsenal scarf.

:23:24. > :23:28.Football runs in your family, we know that you have been refereeing

:23:29. > :23:33.under tens recently, the question is, who is easier to keep control

:23:34. > :23:39.of, 10-year old or the Parliamentary Labour Party? Ten-year-olds...! No

:23:40. > :23:45.hesitation whatsoever! Do you want to three next. Let's go for number

:23:46. > :23:51.two. This manhole, beautiful, all the way from Kyoto, in Japan...

:23:52. > :23:54.Isn't it lovely. 6000 types of decorative manholes in Japan. That

:23:55. > :23:59.is your allotment, we understand. That was not taken this year, by the

:24:00. > :24:04.way. What is it about the allotment that you love? It is open space, a

:24:05. > :24:08.chance to grow things, the chance to reflect on things and a chance to

:24:09. > :24:11.just unwind and be yourself, and chat to all the other allotment

:24:12. > :24:17.holders, exchanging plants and all of that. There is something magic.

:24:18. > :24:24.You grow your own beans, your own potatoes, your own corn, take it

:24:25. > :24:28.home and... Grow fruit trees, and then you turn the fruit trees into

:24:29. > :24:33.jam, and I would like to present The One Show with a jar of my jam!

:24:34. > :24:35.APPLAUSE Jeremy Corbyn thank you very much

:24:36. > :24:44.for your time and your jam today. We will not know who has won the

:24:45. > :24:48.general election until the early hours of June nine, at the earliest,

:24:49. > :24:51.but we can reveal the outcome of another important contest today, the

:24:52. > :24:57.setting, a beach in East Lothian, the result is very much in the

:24:58. > :25:02.balance, watch this. My name is James, today I am taking part in the

:25:03. > :25:08.first ever European stone stacking championships here in Dunbar,

:25:09. > :25:13.Scotland. The art of balancing stones is, I guess, it is like a

:25:14. > :25:16.combination between science and art. You are looking for the

:25:17. > :25:21.imperfections in the stones, where you can sit the top stone and get

:25:22. > :25:25.three points of contact. If you get your centre of gravity right through

:25:26. > :25:30.those three points, then, in good weather conditions, it will stand

:25:31. > :25:34.up. It is really addictive. I have stopped the car when there is a wall

:25:35. > :25:38.falling over, to help put it back together, make it a bit more

:25:39. > :25:44.creative. Everybody go to your positions and I will call the start

:25:45. > :25:49.time. My name is James, I am the organiser of today's competition.

:25:50. > :25:52.Most people look for sandy beaches, the stones staggers are a different

:25:53. > :25:59.breed, they tend to look for beaches without sand and lots and lots of

:26:00. > :26:03.rocks. -- stone stackers. We expect 500 visitors today from all around

:26:04. > :26:09.Europe, very exciting, people from Spain, France, all around England

:26:10. > :26:13.and Scotland. This beach in Dunbar has such a variety of different

:26:14. > :26:20.stones to work with. It is a little breezy, that will make it even more

:26:21. > :26:21.exciting. The deeper you go down, the smaller the stones you will

:26:22. > :26:30.find. My name is Martin McCluskey, I am a

:26:31. > :26:36.judge at today's European stone stacking championships. -- Martine.

:26:37. > :26:42.What is at stake here is the opportunity to go to the world stone

:26:43. > :26:47.stacking championships in Texas. There is a lot to gain from winning.

:26:48. > :26:53.If you main categories today, the greatest number of stones stacked

:26:54. > :27:05.wins the first category. The second category, against the clock. Three,

:27:06. > :27:08.two, one. Go! And the third, and artistic challenge. Sometimes it can

:27:09. > :27:12.be just one stack that we can be looking for that says it all,

:27:13. > :27:18.beautifully made. Sometimes it might be, then installation that we are

:27:19. > :27:24.looking for, something that is more of a wider sort of composition.

:27:25. > :27:31.People like stacks that look like they have happened by magic. These

:27:32. > :27:34.kind of things are wondrous to see. It defies gravity. It's just

:27:35. > :27:42.amazing. I don't know the physics of it... That is because I didn't do

:27:43. > :27:45.good at physics at school! People do it as a meditative practice, people

:27:46. > :27:49.do it because they like to go away and spend time on their own with the

:27:50. > :27:58.stones. I come at it from an artistic point of view.

:27:59. > :28:09.For me, the work of balancing stones is like balancing myself! Some of

:28:10. > :28:13.the stacks, you think, how can they have done that without any glue or

:28:14. > :28:19.blue tag to keep it balanced. It is quite relaxing. Blu Tac. -- waiting

:28:20. > :28:23.for the judges to see what they think, I have done all that I can

:28:24. > :28:29.do, I hope that they like it. -- Blu Tac.

:28:30. > :28:33.The first competition, the most stones balance... In second place,

:28:34. > :28:48.we have, James Brunt! ! Congratulations, well done. Thank

:28:49. > :28:56.you very much. For the overall winner, again, all the way from

:28:57. > :29:13.Spain, Pedro Duran! I did not think I would like the

:29:14. > :29:17.competitive element, but it gets the adrenaline going, I will definitely

:29:18. > :29:23.come back next year, the competition is quite exciting! STUDIO: Congrats,

:29:24. > :29:25.that is it for today, we will be back tomorrow with David Dimbleby

:29:26. > :29:39.and a performance from Elkie Brooks! ..team them up with

:29:40. > :29:42.a Michelin starred chef,