:00:16. > :00:24.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.
:00:24. > :00:30.Later creator of Citizen Khan, akill Ray will be here. But first let's
:00:30. > :00:34.welcome the comedian, actor and now the scourge of greedy MPs, Ben
:00:34. > :00:47.Miller! Come on in, Ben. Good to see the scourge of greedy MPs, Ben
:00:47. > :00:56.you. How are you? I was milking it. It was good modelling of duck House.
:00:56. > :01:03.It is old school. It is some property. Very nice. In case anyone
:01:03. > :01:09.has forgotten the Duck House was central to the MPs' expenses scandal
:01:09. > :01:16.and to Ben's new play. Can you explain? The Duck House is one of
:01:16. > :01:26.the most famous expenses claimed. It was an MP called Sir Peter have Iing
:01:26. > :01:33.euros, who -- Vigurs who put in a claim for a duck house in the ground
:01:33. > :01:39.of his house. It joins other famous expense claim, such as for a massage
:01:39. > :01:47.chair. One MP claimed for a photo session in a hay field. Where she
:01:47. > :01:56.posed... In attractively I would have to say, among hay bails. But we
:01:56. > :02:02.subsidised this. I play an MP, Robert Houston, a Labour MP, but a
:02:02. > :02:06.champagne socialist and he thinks he is going to lose his seat at the
:02:06. > :02:10.general election and he decides to defect to the Tories. And he has the
:02:10. > :02:14.chairman of the Tory party coming around to vet him and make sure he
:02:14. > :02:19.chairman of the Tory party coming is clean and that night the expense
:02:19. > :02:24.scandal breaks. He sees Harriet Harman interviewed and he senses
:02:24. > :02:31.that the scandal is breaking. He has broken all the rules and he has...
:02:31. > :02:37.He as duck house and a massage chair and elephant lamp. So it is all
:02:37. > :02:44.about this. I didn't write the play it is Colin skash and Dan Paterson.
:02:44. > :02:49.-- Colin Swash. We will talk more about this as the evening progresses
:02:49. > :02:57.and an update on what has been happening since the expense scandal.
:02:57. > :03:03.Also four years ago the swine flu pandemic caused alarm. A vaccine was
:03:03. > :03:06.developed, but some children who were given is were left with
:03:06. > :03:11.long-standing side effects. This is were given is were left with
:03:11. > :03:15.Ben, he is eight and he falls asleep a lot. Not just napping, but a deep
:03:16. > :03:24.sleep and it can happen when he is doing his homework, or at any time.
:03:24. > :03:32.Ben. He's gone? That is him asleep. It can be seconds or minute, it
:03:32. > :03:37.depends on he is doing. It must be scary as a mum? Yes you have to be
:03:37. > :03:40.watching him in case he hurts himself. What did you feel like when
:03:40. > :03:46.it first happened at school in front of your friends? Embarrassing. Did
:03:46. > :03:52.you have to explain what was wrong? I didn't know was wrong. Did that
:03:52. > :03:56.make you scared? Yes. Ben has been like this for three years. It has
:03:56. > :04:02.totally changed him. He is not the little boy we knew before. He was
:04:02. > :04:09.confident, outgoing. Now he is very aggressive, angry, gets frustrated.
:04:09. > :04:14.It takesivities toll on the family as well. Ben's mum believe the
:04:14. > :04:26.symptoms are as a result of having the swine flu vaccine in 2010. At
:04:26. > :04:29.the height of the pandemic the Pandemrix vaccine made by
:04:29. > :04:37.GlaxoSmithKline was offered to high risk groups and given to almost
:04:38. > :04:43.700,000 children. Then the use of it on people under 20 was stopped after
:04:44. > :04:49.a report of increasing cases of narcolepsy. It is a rare condition,
:04:49. > :04:58.but it is a life long condition that causes people to have sleep attacks
:04:59. > :05:03.that are unpredictable and uncontrollable. Ben has a strict
:05:03. > :05:08.regime of sleeping breaks and medication to help him get through
:05:08. > :05:12.the day. His friend at school in York, well they didn't know what to
:05:12. > :05:17.make of his condition. I saw him just asleep on his desk. What did
:05:17. > :05:25.you think? I thought he must have had a late-night. We we were playing
:05:25. > :05:30.football, he started falling Ove and laying down. The Government said it
:05:30. > :05:34.holds no stocks of vaccine. Last year the department of work and
:05:34. > :05:38.pensions turned down compensation claim on the grounds there wasn't
:05:38. > :05:42.enough evidence of a link. Now, the Government has concluded in some
:05:42. > :05:46.cases the vaccine can cause the condition. This levers its open --
:05:46. > :05:50.leaves it open to compensation claims. That is as a result of new
:05:50. > :05:55.findings by the Health Protection Agency that found there was a link
:05:55. > :06:01.between the vaccine and narcolepsy in children. Peter Todd is a
:06:01. > :06:07.solicitor. I have been contacted by about 25 families so far. I think we
:06:07. > :06:12.can expect there is about 100 people that have been affected as a result
:06:12. > :06:16.of this. In in is case, the manufacturers, as part of the
:06:16. > :06:23.contract of supply of the vaccines, got the government to give them an
:06:23. > :06:27.indemocrat nitty in respect of claims. So if the manufacturers have
:06:27. > :06:34.to settle the claims, they can ask the Government to reimburse them.
:06:34. > :06:39.14-year-old Chloe developed narcolepsy after having the swine
:06:39. > :06:47.flu jab in 2009. Her condition was so severe it became too much. I
:06:47. > :06:54.snapped completely. It wasn't a planned thing. I just... I took an
:06:54. > :07:00.overdose. You felt so desperate, you felt I need to end this. I yes. That
:07:00. > :07:06.bad? I just thought to myself, what is the point of going on when I'm
:07:06. > :07:11.never really going to be able to stay awake a full day. Within
:07:11. > :07:16.minutes I found how difficult it is for Chloe to get through the day and
:07:16. > :07:22.why her mum gets so worried. Just doing some filming and I've come
:07:22. > :07:29.back and she is asleep. How often does this happen? It could happen 25
:07:29. > :07:33.to 30 times a day off medication. This is the first time she has
:07:33. > :07:37.fallen asleep today on that is on medication. We are in a park and she
:07:37. > :07:41.is asleep. If I wasn't here, if her friends weren't here, this is how
:07:41. > :07:47.serious it is. I think people need to know this. At home after school,
:07:47. > :07:53.Ben has the energy for a kick about. Will you try and get compensation?
:07:53. > :07:57.It won't change everything. You feel racked with guilt, because I it was
:07:57. > :08:00.me that decide to have that injection. It is a lot for an
:08:00. > :08:07.eight-year-old boy to deal with and that is him for the rest of his
:08:07. > :08:12.life. It is not about the money now. Poor little boy. Thank you so much.
:08:12. > :08:16.Very brave for them to let us tell their story. If you're planning a
:08:16. > :08:26.flu jab, Pandemrix is no longer available and was banned for anyone
:08:26. > :08:33.under 20 in 2011. So why was it given to children. The health
:08:33. > :08:37.department said it was approved by the European Medicines Agency.
:08:37. > :08:41.GlaxoSmithKline said it was researched how narcolepsy is
:08:41. > :08:47.triggered and how this medicine may have interacted with other factors.
:08:47. > :08:52.They said safety is that irpriority. Now The Duck House. We have
:08:52. > :08:56.established it is based on the MPs' expenses scandal. Do you think now
:08:56. > :09:02.the audience are ready for the subject to be satirised? It is funny
:09:02. > :09:06.you ask that. We have been working on this for a while and I think
:09:06. > :09:11.Colin and Dan started at the time of the scandal and I remember we had
:09:11. > :09:15.some readings last year. I was thinking, is it time to do this?
:09:15. > :09:23.People were so angry. Even last year, still so angry about the issue
:09:23. > :09:26.of MPs' expenses. Now, because justice has been seen to be done and
:09:26. > :09:31.the rules have been changed. Now people can see the funny side of it.
:09:31. > :09:35.There is a real funny side to it. It is good material. How have you
:09:35. > :09:41.encompassed that. It has become a is good material. How have you
:09:41. > :09:45.farce. How many houses does he have? Two houses and he has flipped, that
:09:45. > :09:46.is where as they say in the play, you call your main home your second
:09:46. > :09:50.home to claim expenses on your main you call your main home your second
:09:50. > :09:57.home and then call your main home your main home to claim expenses on
:09:57. > :10:03.your second home. He has done that. Also he has made his wife his
:10:03. > :10:07.Parliamentary Secretary and he claims for her. So he claims all the
:10:07. > :10:13.money that he gives to his wife and claims his son is his Parliamentary
:10:13. > :10:18.researcher. These are the... We are laughing, but it happened. Yes maybe
:10:18. > :10:24.not all to the same person. Are all the claims made up. They're all
:10:25. > :10:31.true. All the claims in the play are true. Their research was thorough.
:10:31. > :10:34.In the terms of way it happened. You remember the Daily Telegraph had the
:10:34. > :10:37.list of ex-pensions and you know I accept -- expenses and I received
:10:37. > :10:42.list of ex-pensions and you know I the same e-mail and all the things I
:10:42. > :10:49.have done are things that MPs have done. So this scandal in 2009, Lucy
:10:49. > :10:50.is here. Come on in. She has some information. On the results of it
:10:50. > :10:57.coming to a head. Yes, it is rich information. On the results of it
:10:57. > :11:02.cometic material, but we were furious at the time. And firstly, I
:11:02. > :11:06.mean the reputation of politicians was at rock bottom and you had to
:11:06. > :11:09.think about what happened to some of the politicians themselves. It was
:11:09. > :11:18.obvious heads would roll and they did. So three of the big ones, names
:11:18. > :11:27.you will remember. Elliott Morley claimed over £30,000. He admitted it
:11:27. > :11:31.and served a prison sentence. We had Lord Hanningfield, still in the
:11:31. > :11:35.House of Lords. He was charged with £14,000 of expenses and things like
:11:35. > :11:42.overnight stays in London when it was clear he had been driven back to
:11:42. > :11:47.Chelmsford. He had a short jail term. Now he campaigns on penal
:11:47. > :11:56.reform and prisoners rights. Well he has first hand knowledge. Margaret
:11:56. > :12:01.Moran, the former MP for Luton, £60,000 worth of expenses and after
:12:01. > :12:05.a period of ill health she was sentenced to two years surn vision
:12:05. > :12:11.and treatment. So the -- supervision and treatment. So the repurr
:12:11. > :12:16.cushions were serious. Now they have taken transparency to an extreme.
:12:16. > :12:23.You can go on to a web-site. Yes it is quite addictive. It sounds
:12:23. > :12:30.brilliant. This is the independent Parliamentary standards authority
:12:30. > :12:33.and their aim is to be they call it aggressive transparency and every
:12:33. > :12:38.two months all the claims are published. You can see what tariff
:12:38. > :12:44.David Cameron is on for his mobile phone. If he buys a stapler it will
:12:44. > :12:52.tell you. There is all these categories. I'm not one for
:12:52. > :13:02.snooping... But! You can find anything. Has that gone too far. Who
:13:02. > :13:11.would want to be an MP. It helps many you like administration. Thank
:13:11. > :13:15.you. Get back on that web-site. Mime Dilger is always enthusiastic about
:13:15. > :13:20.the creatures he encounter, he often says, this is my new favourite
:13:20. > :13:25.animal. Well, he has done it again. Stoats are one of Britain's most
:13:25. > :13:30.difficult mammals to see. Despite being all over the country. If you
:13:30. > :13:36.glimpse one it is often just a flash. When I heard of a chance to
:13:36. > :13:42.have a close encounters with them, I knew it was an opportunity too good
:13:42. > :13:47.to miss. Martin is a wildlife cameraman and when a rescued stoat
:13:47. > :14:00.turned up on his doorstep, he seize adieu Nic chance. -- seized a unique
:14:01. > :14:05.chance. It had its tail injured by a cat. You often get these things. Yes
:14:05. > :14:10.I never know what will arrive. He already had a male stoat in
:14:10. > :14:16.residence. So he soon found he had a family. These were born in March.
:14:16. > :14:21.Ten youngsters all about this big. Out of the ten she reared three.
:14:21. > :14:27.Martin decided to keep the kits until they were old enough to be
:14:27. > :14:31.released and built them a den ripped with cameras. He has been able to
:14:31. > :14:36.film them from the first days of their lives. They don't open their
:14:36. > :14:42.eyes for at least a month and these didn't venture out until they were
:14:42. > :14:48.eight weeks old. The kits are now 15 weeks old and as wig big as their
:14:48. > :15:03.mum. They're full of energy and it is the perfect time to film them. He
:15:03. > :15:06.can fund them without becoming tame. A couple of logs that the stoats
:15:06. > :15:13.have not seen before instantly investigated. They are endlessly
:15:13. > :15:16.curious. We are filming them at 150 frames per second which means we can
:15:16. > :15:19.slow down their movement is six times. I had no idea that this could
:15:19. > :15:25.slow down their movement is six be so much fun! They are packed with
:15:25. > :15:32.slow down their movement is six muscle, they are so supple. They are
:15:32. > :15:36.like nature 's gymnasts. The movements and the ships and the way
:15:36. > :15:41.they can curl around. They are absolutely brilliant. It is this
:15:41. > :15:48.agility that gives them the edge when hunting. A stilted can take
:15:48. > :15:52.down a rabbit ten times its size. Martin is not just filming the
:15:52. > :15:55.stoats, he is preparing them for release back into the wild and needs
:15:55. > :16:01.to make sure they have the right skills to survive. One of the things
:16:01. > :16:10.they will certainly aid to know how to handle eggs. Packed with protein,
:16:10. > :16:12.clutch of birds eggs will make a nutritional need for a hungry
:16:12. > :16:20.stilted but they are not the easiest dinner today with. -- to deal with.
:16:20. > :16:26.I have never seen anything like that in my life! Look at that control
:16:26. > :16:36.axeman David Beckham, eat your heart out! Being able to move eggs around
:16:36. > :16:40.like this means they can stanch food and save it for a mini day. Every
:16:40. > :16:48.move the mother makes is watched closely by the kids. It is a good
:16:48. > :16:52.learning curve for the youngsters. But there is one more skill they are
:16:52. > :16:56.learning at this camp which is really quite surprising. I don't
:16:56. > :17:03.usually associate stoats with water but they are actually great
:17:03. > :17:08.swimmers. Anything! It is there a torpedo shaped and big feet that
:17:08. > :17:12.make them so handy in the water. They have been known to some of the
:17:12. > :17:16.one kilometre but these little guys have start -- have got to start
:17:16. > :17:20.one kilometre but these little guys somewhere. I have to say, they are
:17:20. > :17:24.my new favourite animal. I cannot member being so captivated by one
:17:24. > :17:29.animal, they are just brilliant. Arjun has followed his kids through
:17:29. > :17:36.every stage of their upbringing and you must have got with attached to
:17:36. > :17:40.these guys! It is going to be hard to say goodbye and brings a lump to
:17:40. > :17:47.your throat. It is the right thing to do, to let them run wild. A week
:17:47. > :17:51.later, it was time to say goodbye. He has been able to capture stunning
:17:51. > :17:54.footage of stoats at every stage of their lives and I have had the
:17:54. > :18:02.privilege of peeping into their world, too.
:18:02. > :18:10.Beautiful footage. But was this stilted his favourite animal after
:18:10. > :18:20.this happened? Just watch this. That is the how she gets on! , has really
:18:20. > :18:30.hurt! That is the worst feeling as well. It did go on a little longer,
:18:30. > :18:36.we had to cut there! This Friday, the second series of Adil Ray 's
:18:36. > :18:42.Citizen Khan starts on BBC One. It doesn't take long before he is
:18:42. > :18:53.taking the biscuit. It is right here. You just had to reach out and
:18:53. > :19:15.take it. It is OK, I will stand all the way over here. I did it! Adil
:19:15. > :19:24.Ray who created the series and plays Mr Khan joins us now. What happens,
:19:24. > :19:31.does Granny get her biscuit or her seat back? You have two watch it! I
:19:31. > :19:40.cannot believe how different you look without the beard? The make-up
:19:41. > :19:45.girls do an amazing job. It is quite tricky to play an older guy. For
:19:45. > :19:51.those who missed the first series, what happened and is it too late to
:19:51. > :19:55.join in with the secondaries? Not at all. As sitcoms, we have to try to
:19:55. > :19:59.write as individual 30 minute shows. all. As sitcoms, we have to try to
:19:59. > :20:02.There is one storyline about the daughter getting married at the idea
:20:02. > :20:07.is that you should finish the 30 minutes where you started off and
:20:07. > :20:15.people can catch up. It is a family sitcom and I hope people can connect
:20:15. > :20:20.to them. It is based in Birmingham. Yes, and it is led by Mr Khan who is
:20:21. > :20:25.to them. It is based in Birmingham. a self appointed community leader.
:20:25. > :20:31.He thinks far too much of himself and he once to leave the community
:20:31. > :20:36.but he should be paying attention to his family. There are three very
:20:36. > :20:41.fierce full and independent women around him. His wife and two
:20:41. > :20:44.daughters, and I think there is a story that he realises the right
:20:44. > :20:52.thing to do is to do what his daughters and wife want. They are
:20:52. > :20:57.pretty high maintenance. As you said, it is a family friendly
:20:57. > :21:02.sitcom. It attracted quite a lot of criticism in the first series from
:21:02. > :21:05.the Muslims. Would you rather ruffle some feathers in your own committee
:21:05. > :21:13.or have mass appeal because lots of people genuinely do it -- do love
:21:13. > :21:17.it? It has had some criticism and it was not just Muslim people but from
:21:17. > :21:21.people from different backgrounds. That is only right because we are
:21:21. > :21:27.not on the same. If all the Muslims had come out and said, Citizen Khan
:21:27. > :21:35.is great, I would be scared. Comedy is so subjective and with Twitter
:21:35. > :21:41.and Facebook, campaigning has become a bit of a team sport. You have to
:21:42. > :21:46.take things with a pinch of salt. Some sensitive issues obviously but
:21:46. > :21:51.if you stick with it, you realise that it is just any ordinary family.
:21:51. > :21:55.One subject we pick up on is the younger daughter and the fact that
:21:55. > :22:00.she was pretending to be religious in front of her father but she is
:22:00. > :22:04.not. I had endless amounts of responses from people saying, that
:22:04. > :22:11.is just like me. As a muslin, I love to hear that because it brings us
:22:11. > :22:16.all together. Had you used classic British sitcom tricks to make this
:22:16. > :22:21.work? I was brought up watching British sitcoms. Only fools and
:22:21. > :22:29.horses and Fawlty Towers and I love the idea of British sitcoms. The
:22:30. > :22:34.typical British character is the guy who has dreams and aspirations but
:22:34. > :22:39.there is something about us that we don't want him to get there in the
:22:39. > :22:45.end, we want him to be a loser! You had to watch the first episode with
:22:45. > :22:58.your mum and dad? Yes, it is very important. Do you watch your
:22:58. > :23:07.episodes with your parents? They are honest, I suppose. If they don't
:23:07. > :23:12.like it, they don't tend to say. My dad is not around any more but he
:23:12. > :23:18.would say, yes, it is good to get that one out of the way! That was as
:23:18. > :23:27.negative as it got. You can to please anyone! Citizen Khan begins
:23:27. > :23:39.this Friday at 930 on BBC One. It is clear that Birmingham has inspired
:23:39. > :23:41.Adil Ray. Giles went to Yorkshire to find out how one of our greatest
:23:41. > :23:52.novelist Lewis Carroll gather inspiration.
:23:52. > :23:57.The story of Alice 's Adventures in Wonderland was published in 1865.
:23:57. > :24:02.Down, down, down, with the four never come to an end with Mac I
:24:02. > :24:06.wonder if I shall fall right through the air. The book was the product of
:24:06. > :24:13.his inventive imagination with its talking rabbit and mad Hatter and
:24:13. > :24:18.could he had drawn his inspiration from somewhere more down to earth?
:24:18. > :24:23.Could this city called secrets to how this hugely popular book came to
:24:23. > :24:29.be? Appropriately enough, our first clue takes us deep underground. In
:24:29. > :24:35.April 1997, a large hole opened up in a suburban Yorkshire Street. This
:24:35. > :24:38.natural phenomenon greeted a whole ten metres wide and six metres deep.
:24:38. > :24:45.natural phenomenon greeted a whole The location of that goal was here
:24:45. > :24:49.in Ripon and sinkholes have been hearing -- appearing here for years.
:24:49. > :24:56.Lewis cannot 's father was Rector here in the city -- 50s and 60s. He
:24:56. > :24:57.was writing Alice in Wonderland at the time and was a frequent visitor
:24:57. > :25:01.was writing Alice in Wonderland at to the city. Good the sinkhole have
:25:01. > :25:06.was writing Alice in Wonderland at been an inspiration for the books?
:25:06. > :25:12.Are caused when rock is washed away. This creates a new ground here that
:25:12. > :25:17.can collapse. Ripon is particularly affected by this geological
:25:17. > :25:22.phenomenon. This is a piece of gypsum from the river. This is
:25:22. > :25:31.heavy. We are sitting on literally 30 metres of this? Yes. We have been
:25:31. > :25:38.mapping the sinkholes in these parts. We have the red areas of
:25:38. > :25:45.sinkholes. You need to take me to one of them. I will take you to one
:25:45. > :25:49.that will surprise you. Doctor Cooper is taking me to a local
:25:49. > :25:56.sinkhole Lewis Carol is likely to have known. Oh! Could this be the
:25:56. > :26:03.entrance to Wonderland, the rabbit hole the beginning of the book? This
:26:03. > :26:07.is one huge hole, do you think Lewis Carroll came here? Yes, it was right
:26:07. > :26:11.next to the railway station and people used to come and visit these
:26:11. > :26:16.things? I know that Alice disappears down a rabbit hole. Alice in
:26:16. > :26:22.Wonderland is the published version but the original version was Alice
:26:23. > :26:28.'s adventures Underground. Although she fell into a rabbit hole, she
:26:28. > :26:36.fell down, down, down. This is a shaft going down into the
:26:36. > :26:44.underworld. Do you know any rabbit holes that goal down, down, down?
:26:44. > :26:47.You have convinced me! Ribbon appears to have inspired Lewis
:26:47. > :26:51.Carroll in other ways. The blonde girl in the book with a distinctive
:26:51. > :26:55.dress was beautifully illustrated by the artist but although Lewis
:26:55. > :26:59.Carroll based the character Alice on the daughter of a colleague, she had
:26:59. > :27:02.dark hair. This local historian the daughter of a colleague, she had
:27:02. > :27:11.things he has a message -- explanation for his for this. Lewis
:27:11. > :27:16.Carroll saw this picture in a photographer 's shop. So he sent his
:27:16. > :27:20.photograph to the famous illustrator. According to this
:27:20. > :27:27.little girl 's family, that is what happened. It is uncanny. There is
:27:27. > :27:31.certainly a resemblance. There is one more tantalising connection
:27:31. > :27:34.certainly a resemblance. There is which can be found here in the
:27:34. > :27:40.cathedral. I would like you to have a look at this seat. Can you see
:27:40. > :27:46.some of the detail? It is quite clearly Griffin changing -- chasing
:27:46. > :27:50.a rabbit down a hole. This could have been an inspiration for the
:27:50. > :27:54.characters in Wonderland. He would have been well aware of these
:27:55. > :27:58.carvings. But the clues together and perhaps Lewis Carroll 's children's
:27:58. > :28:04.classic might more appropriately be named Alice in Yorkshire land! From
:28:05. > :28:08.sinkholes to rabbit holes, from the named Alice in Yorkshire land! From
:28:09. > :28:13.carvings to a little girl in a Victorian party dress. I think open
:28:13. > :28:23.is laying it came to a place in Wonderland. Cupcake anyone?
:28:23. > :28:29.I am convinced. Earlier on we were talking about the website where you
:28:29. > :28:36.can view MPs websites. Now, it has crashed! Nobody will hear the next
:28:36. > :28:40.question, is there any possibility that Armstrong and Miller will get
:28:40. > :28:54.back together? Maybe, if we find the right thing. Thanks to Ben. We love
:28:54. > :28:59.Ben! Don't forget Citizen Khan on Friday. Tomorrow Paul Merton will be
:28:59. > :29:02.here. See you then!