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:00:15. > :00:25.Hello. It's you I've been looking for. We're dancing... On the

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:00:37. > :00:47.Not bad moves, there. We've just managed to washed the disco dust

:00:47. > :00:51.out of our hair, because of course, it is Lionel Ritchie. I know how

:00:51. > :00:56.long it took me to pull that off. Incredible. By the way, I was

:00:56. > :01:00.terrified to do that, because they only gave me four days to do that

:01:00. > :01:05.and Fred astair had four weeks to learn how to do that. You know I

:01:05. > :01:11.was bruised at the end of that. You did it pretty well. We had 30

:01:11. > :01:14.seconds. A lot of glue. I was lucky enough to see you at the O2 in

:01:14. > :01:18.concert on Sunday. Absolutely phenomenal, Lionel. You know what's

:01:18. > :01:23.getting me now is that the more I come back, the louder the crowd

:01:23. > :01:29.gets. Did you notice that? I'm singing and at one point I just

:01:29. > :01:34.want to stop and go, "Do you want me to sing?" I'll just play and

:01:34. > :01:38.it's fascinating. I'm glad you saw it. It was absolutely brilliant.

:01:38. > :01:44.Matt really missed out. I was on the way back from our holidays and

:01:44. > :01:51.we would have loved to have come. I got the airport from Abu Dhabi from

:01:51. > :01:54.Alex. She text me this. That face says everything. That's perfect.

:01:54. > :01:57.The crowd were brilliant and lots of people got emotional on the

:01:57. > :02:02.fight because your songs mean so much to lots of different people

:02:02. > :02:06.out there. So, what we would like to do is hear from you at home

:02:06. > :02:12.about why Lionel's music is so special. Take a picture. Send us a

:02:12. > :02:15.story and maybe he'll read some out later. Good. Excellent. Lionel,

:02:15. > :02:20.obviously incredibly busy with the tour and wrapping it up before

:02:20. > :02:25.Christmas, but it must be difficult seeing what is going on back at

:02:25. > :02:28.home with Superstorm Sandy? I am getting the stories now and there's

:02:28. > :02:32.a funny side to this. I had a group of friends from Europe who said

:02:32. > :02:37.they wanted to come to New York to spend Hallowe'en. They went there

:02:37. > :02:40.and the joke is on them. They are now stranded in Queens. Have you

:02:40. > :02:44.spoken to them? What's their reaction? It's devastation. It's

:02:44. > :02:54.just more water than water and everything is blown away. What I'm

:02:54. > :02:59.just amazed at is what is this with the subway system? They'll have to

:02:59. > :03:04.pump this out. It's 100-plus-year- old system. Give me a break and

:03:04. > :03:09.plus, just the houses on Long Island. I can't imagine. This is

:03:09. > :03:18.not just an easy fix. This is going to take. This is the Hurricane

:03:18. > :03:26.Katrina on the east coast. Lionel, you are going to be here all night.

:03:26. > :03:30.All night long! A few months ago we reported on how landlords are

:03:30. > :03:35.exploiting low-paid workers by renting out back garden sheds as

:03:35. > :03:40.homes. Today, we return to see how one local council is cracking down

:03:40. > :03:43.on these landlords. Here's Lucy. The London borough of Newham has

:03:43. > :03:49.been home to one of the largest regeneration schemes Britain has

:03:49. > :03:53.ever seen, but behind some of these Victorian terraces lie Britain's

:03:53. > :04:03.21st century slums. So called sheds with beds, which have become home

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:04:04. > :04:07.to vulnerable people and illegal immigrants. Today, the council is

:04:07. > :04:17.taking drastic action to stamp out these. This is thought to be the

:04:17. > :04:22.first in the UK to be demolished under the Housing Act. Russell is

:04:22. > :04:26.heading up the council's Task Force. I think we are determined to deal

:04:26. > :04:30.with the minority of rogue landlords who are happy to exploit

:04:31. > :04:34.desperate people. We have 30 orders that are out with landlords to have

:04:34. > :04:38.these properties taken down in the next six months, so where the

:04:38. > :04:43.landlord doesn't do it, we'll step in and take it down for them. In

:04:43. > :04:48.the last 12 months we have prosecuted 60 rogue landlords for

:04:48. > :04:51.offences and in the next 12 we'll double that and we'll keep going

:04:51. > :04:56.until we have driven this out. would you describe the conditions

:04:56. > :05:00.in there? When we came across it, we had six men living in there with

:05:00. > :05:03.a single shower and toilet. You can imagine, it was very tight and cold.

:05:03. > :05:07.When you see people living in those sort of conditions, what do you

:05:07. > :05:10.think? How does it make you feel? It breaks my heart when you see

:05:10. > :05:15.women and children in these properties and to think that's

:05:15. > :05:22.where they call their home. That's very sad and we can't accept that

:05:22. > :05:26.in London in the 21st century. really hard when you look around to

:05:26. > :05:34.reconcile there's a loo and there was a sink and obviously electrics

:05:34. > :05:39.in there. This was home to six people. There was even a picture.

:05:39. > :05:42.With Newham Council taking a stance and the illegal structures,

:05:42. > :05:47.charities are concerned that the vulnerable that they once housed

:05:47. > :05:54.could be forced on to the streets where they face other dangers.

:05:54. > :05:58.have heard from many of people who have said it's the only thing they

:05:58. > :06:01.can find. They've got nowhere else to go. They can't afford to get

:06:01. > :06:04.into the private rental sector and the councils might not have

:06:04. > :06:06.accommodation, so what's really important if the people are taken

:06:06. > :06:10.out of sheds that the councils and the Government provide decent

:06:10. > :06:13.accommodation for them when this happens to them, because everyone

:06:13. > :06:16.wants a roof over their head. Nobody should spiral so far they

:06:17. > :06:20.have to find the only come decision is a shed with a bed in it. What we

:06:20. > :06:28.need to make sure is if people are being moved out of this

:06:28. > :06:32.accommodation that they are found somewhere decent to live. Well,

:06:32. > :06:36.Lucy is here and we'll just continue on that point. What is

:06:36. > :06:41.happening to those people that are being removed? It's a very good

:06:41. > :06:45.question. Local authorities will work with the voluntary sector and

:06:45. > :06:48.charities who are experts in housing, because their priority is

:06:48. > :06:53.to get vulnerable people into the proper accommodation and make sure

:06:53. > :06:56.they don't end up on the streets. It has to be said that they also

:06:56. > :07:01.work with UK Border Agency and people are repatriated if it's

:07:01. > :07:06.deemed the best thing to do, so that's happening too. As way from

:07:06. > :07:10.sheds, the bigger problem really is that we have a huge housing problem,

:07:10. > :07:16.isn't it? Yes. The statistics show us we have 390,000 new families in

:07:16. > :07:22.the UK last year and just 100,000 homes for them. Obviously, there is

:07:22. > :07:26.a shortfall and that's borne out by a report that came out on Friday,

:07:26. > :07:32.which said we need to triple the amount of housing being built to

:07:32. > :07:34.solve what they called basically a crisis. Shelter also said we have

:07:34. > :07:40.1.7 million people waiting for social housing, so something needs

:07:40. > :07:47.to be done. People are coming up with quite innovative ways of

:07:47. > :07:52.solving this? Yes. One scheme that really caught our eye when we were

:07:52. > :07:57.researching that story. The Building Trust and the winning

:07:57. > :08:01.architect came up with a project in Hackney. This is to turn garages in

:08:01. > :08:05.Hackney, they are disused, into good, standard temporary

:08:05. > :08:10.accommodation. Just in case people think this sounds like the sheds we

:08:10. > :08:14.have seen. It's nothing similar. The infrastructure is the shell of

:08:14. > :08:20.the garage. It is made and dropped in and it meets all regulations and

:08:20. > :08:28.it's insulated and well done. It's a concept, but we need interesting,

:08:28. > :08:34.good solutions. Yep. Brilliant. Thank you. It's just ten days until

:08:34. > :08:41.our rikshaw riders start their epic 411-mile challenge from Llandudno

:08:41. > :08:47.to London for Children in Need. Happy there. They have no idea

:08:47. > :08:51.what's instore. Are you kidding me? We wondered this, because we wanted

:08:51. > :08:57.to get you on board, but we didn't have the time, but the good news is

:08:57. > :09:07.we stound a stand-in. He's Lionel Rikshaw.

:09:07. > :09:08.

:09:09. > :09:13.# You're once, twice # Three times a rikshaw

:09:13. > :09:17.# You guys. That was good. Pretty good standard. I tell you what, we

:09:17. > :09:25.are doing a big show on Friday, 16th November for Children in Need.

:09:25. > :09:30.If you are about in London, pop in. One Direction will be there too.

:09:30. > :09:34.The screams are there. The reason why everybody is taking part is to

:09:34. > :09:38.raise money, so if you can spare �5 please donate using your phone.

:09:38. > :09:45.Lionel, do us a favour and read out the details straight down the

:09:45. > :09:48.camera. Sure. OK. To show your support text Team to 70705.

:09:48. > :09:54.Messages will cost �5 plus your standard network charge and �5 will

:09:54. > :09:57.go to Children in Need. Perfect. Remember, you must ask the bill

:09:57. > :10:04.payer's permission before you text and for full terms and conditions

:10:04. > :10:09.visit the website. Our riders will be joining us here in the studio

:10:09. > :10:16.tomorrow night. Talking of big challenges, Lionel, the tour, that

:10:16. > :10:20.must be that? Rikshaw driver is a pretty big challenge. Yours must be

:10:20. > :10:25.doing the tour. This is actually a calmer tour, if you want to believe

:10:26. > :10:33.it. We did 62 shows on the last time we came across and now we are

:10:33. > :10:36.down to 39. Well, 42 before it's all over with, but you think about

:10:36. > :10:41.two-and-a-half hours on stage and the adrenaline and the crowd

:10:41. > :10:46.continues to do this to you, so whatever was your bad day, you no

:10:46. > :10:50.longer have a bad day, because they want to see you. They want to see

:10:51. > :10:55.you and you were there, so you know. Absolutely brilliant. They are so

:10:55. > :10:59.wonderful and I think it's probably the best drug you could ever be on

:10:59. > :11:04.in life is the adrenaline drug, because once you get out it's

:11:04. > :11:14.massive. What a career. We want to cast your mind back to 1986.

:11:14. > :11:14.

:11:14. > :11:18.don't remember, I tell you. Dancing on the ceiling was a huge hit. It

:11:18. > :11:21.was also a big year for Swedish rockers who enjoyed incredible

:11:21. > :11:31.success, but don't worry, you're still our favourite. Thank you very

:11:31. > :11:34.

:11:34. > :11:38.much. There are pop songs and there are rock anthems. In the late 80s

:11:38. > :11:47.the Final Countdown was sung by crowds all over the world making

:11:47. > :11:52.Joey Tempest and his band Europe, international rock Gods. It was a

:11:52. > :11:57.kaizy time. Private jets and -- crazey time, private jets and we

:11:57. > :12:00.couldn't walk the streets. That was strange to us. There's not that

:12:00. > :12:04.many that get the feeling or go through being one of the biggest

:12:04. > :12:09.bands on the planet. Everybody wants a piece of you and it's kind

:12:09. > :12:13.of crazy. They all grew up in Sweden, influenced, like a whole

:12:13. > :12:23.generation, by Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and thin Lizzie. They wrote

:12:23. > :12:29.in English and called themselves Europe. We had a band called WC,

:12:29. > :12:33.which was toilet in Swedish and the guitar player came along and I was

:12:33. > :12:38.blown away. I thought I had to form a band. We dreamed as kids to tour

:12:38. > :12:42.in the UK and the US. If we can do that like our heroes, so we were

:12:42. > :12:48.fighting for it and then we got a chance. After a few years' hard

:12:48. > :12:51.work, recording and touring, the band were signed to CBS in America

:12:51. > :12:56.and band recording their third album, looking for a grand, opening

:12:56. > :13:01.track and Joey dug out an old recording he had made as a teenager.

:13:01. > :13:11.I borrowed a keyboard in school and it was the sound that fed me the

:13:11. > :13:18.

:13:18. > :13:25.idea. You were sitting on that hook? Yes, for a number of years.

:13:25. > :13:30.That night I came up with that bit and I knew it was special, but as a

:13:30. > :13:35.songwriter I wasn't there to write it, but on the third album, I

:13:35. > :13:44.thought yet. Joey remembered one of his favourite records as a boy,

:13:44. > :13:49.David Bowie's Space Oddity. remember thinks lyrics floating in

:13:49. > :13:54.a tin can and I I was fascinating with his fascination with space, so

:13:54. > :13:59.I thought it would work for the theme for the song. The song, and

:13:59. > :14:06.then the title, Final Countdown, the world is spent and finished and

:14:06. > :14:16.we have to seek another place to live. For me, it's like a

:14:16. > :14:30.

:14:30. > :14:38.soundtrack. The track was a huge hit, going to

:14:38. > :14:45.number one in 25 different countries. But with success comes

:14:45. > :14:51.pressure. We all know that once you start selling records, the business

:14:51. > :14:56.of music can be quite different. yes. We went on promotional tours

:14:56. > :15:03.for maybe two months, doing 20 interviews a day, 10 photo sessions,

:15:03. > :15:07.and then doing a show, a Playback show, miming and just pretending.

:15:07. > :15:11.Being musicians, we said, we cannot do this. Because it becomes

:15:11. > :15:18.something else. You do not play, you do something other people

:15:18. > :15:25.wanted to do all of the time. guitarist left, and the band made

:15:25. > :15:30.two more albums, before calling it a day in 1992. A decade later, the

:15:30. > :15:33.original line-up reformed, and 10 years on, they are out on the road

:15:33. > :15:37.again. The band have gone back to their hard rock roots, but they

:15:37. > :15:46.cannot get away without playing that track. Is it still a crowd-

:15:46. > :15:50.pleaser? Yes. You can feel the ground move, even on a field. It is

:15:50. > :16:00.a jumping song. It has that amazing communication with the audience.

:16:00. > :16:05.

:16:05. > :16:12.What a song, and great to hear Lionel joining in with the chorus.

:16:12. > :16:18.Yes, they were trying to sing it to me in the dressing room. I could

:16:18. > :16:28.not figure it out. They were singing it, but I kept saying, I do

:16:28. > :16:34.not know... Incredibly, we heard Joey saying that his lead guitarist

:16:34. > :16:41.was in a band called WC. Tell us your story about The Commodores.

:16:41. > :16:45.could not agree on a name, so we said, enough of this, let's throw

:16:45. > :16:51.our finger into the dictionary, pick a name, which is not serious,

:16:51. > :17:01.and that's what came out. And the guys said, look how close we came

:17:01. > :17:05.

:17:05. > :17:09.to being The Commodes. And using some hits by The Commodores on tour.

:17:09. > :17:14.You start off with one song, you have at least four hit records you

:17:14. > :17:18.can play. Now, we have another problem, a great problem - we have

:17:18. > :17:22.so many songs that we cannot put all of them in the show. What you

:17:22. > :17:27.can expect is that there will be lots of The Commodores, lots of the

:17:27. > :17:31.1980s, and then everything in between that we can put in. You can

:17:31. > :17:39.guarantee that we will walk off that night and people will say, he

:17:39. > :17:45.did not play... But we will try to cover as many as possible. It was

:17:45. > :17:52.just hit after hit, but quite short. The thing about it is, we have to

:17:52. > :17:58.play it, and then play another one. Otherwise, in 2.5 hours, we will

:17:58. > :18:08.miss lots of them. I can tell you what, one of those songs which are

:18:08. > :18:14.

:18:14. > :18:24.not included, we have got a few of them here, some absolute classics.

:18:24. > :18:33.

:18:33. > :18:43.# All Night Long... # We are the children...

:18:43. > :18:55.

:18:55. > :19:00.APPLAUSE How do you feel looking back at those times?

:19:00. > :19:04.I just keep looking at her hair. Now, I have an 18-year-old son.

:19:04. > :19:08.Every time he walks into the room with his hair like this, I tell him,

:19:08. > :19:15.you have got to cut your hair. And then he brings out my picture and

:19:15. > :19:25.says, are you kidding me? I cannot fight him! But this is an

:19:25. > :19:27.

:19:27. > :19:35.incredibly busy year for you, new album, called Tuskegee. Why is it

:19:35. > :19:42.called that? That was very good! The thing is, I decided I was going

:19:42. > :19:49.to do something different, but they kept saying to me, do you want to

:19:49. > :19:54.do, Lionel does Gershwin? I was saying, no. And then I realised

:19:54. > :20:00.country was so close to what I was doing, and because I was from

:20:00. > :20:05.Tuskegee, I decided to do a country version of this on my soles, and I

:20:06. > :20:15.found out that the country artists, they know every one of my songs.

:20:16. > :20:17.

:20:17. > :20:22.She Nia twain did one of my songs, as did can he Rogers, who did Lady.

:20:22. > :20:30.-- as did Kenny Rogers. That was a period of time when there were no

:20:30. > :20:34.summers. I do not remember a summer between 1978 and 1989. I was in the

:20:34. > :20:38.studio from January till April, and then touring from May until

:20:39. > :20:44.December, and then back in the studio. It is like living in Great

:20:44. > :20:51.Britain, we do not have any Summers, either. I did say something last

:20:51. > :20:57.night, I said something about, the sky is blue, except here in

:20:57. > :21:04.London... Now, we know you love art - how big is the biggest painting

:21:04. > :21:11.in your house? Well, you know, what comes with art is wall space. I

:21:11. > :21:21.have a number of super large pieces, but in my house, I can only go for

:21:21. > :21:24.

:21:24. > :21:29.about maybe 6 by 8. That's feet. So, when you start thinking of wall

:21:29. > :21:33.space, if you want to have more than five paintings, you have to

:21:33. > :21:41.scale them in a bit. This would not work for you. This one is

:21:41. > :21:44.absolutely massive - have a look at this. The Irish love their horse

:21:44. > :21:49.racing, so I have come to the right place to find a thoroughbred. I did

:21:49. > :21:53.not expect to find one so soon! Here in County down, Northern

:21:53. > :21:59.Ireland, you can find a painting depicting one of the most famous

:21:59. > :22:03.racehorses that has ever lived. It might not be a gallery, but this

:22:03. > :22:08.beautiful listed building run by the national Trust is the perfect

:22:08. > :22:14.spot to showcase this champion thoroughbred. And here he is, life-

:22:14. > :22:19.size, in fact, his name was Hambletonian, and he was the

:22:19. > :22:26.greatest racehorses of the 18th century. The painting, by Dean

:22:26. > :22:32.Mauny, shows Hambletonian getting rubbed down by his stable boy after

:22:32. > :22:37.a race. -- by George Stubbs. He is looking a bit tired... Yes, he has

:22:37. > :22:42.just won the most enormously important race at Newmarket, which

:22:42. > :22:47.was on 25th March 17 99. The race was against one other horse,

:22:47. > :22:52.diamond, the greatest racehorse from the south of England, and

:22:52. > :22:59.Hambletonian was the greatest from the north of England at the time.

:22:59. > :23:04.The owner bet that his horse could beat diamond. The race was a huge

:23:04. > :23:09.event. Hambletonian won, amid what was described as a hurricane of

:23:09. > :23:14.applause. It was neck and neck in the last half mile or so, but he

:23:14. > :23:17.won by a head. It was a great triumph for him and for his owner.

:23:17. > :23:21.He commissioned George Stubbs, who was without doubt the greatest

:23:21. > :23:28.painter of horses at the time in England, and probably ever, to

:23:28. > :23:31.paint this race. It does not scream of victory, they should be happy?

:23:32. > :23:37.To me, what is extraordinary about this painting is that it is all

:23:37. > :23:44.about the horse, showing the cost of that race to the horse. Although

:23:44. > :23:49.he is exhausted, he is shown in the foreground, so close, that we could

:23:49. > :23:54.almost touch him. For George Stubbs, painting such a realistic depiction

:23:54. > :23:57.of an exhausted horse was a major departure. He had acquired his

:23:57. > :24:04.status as the most famous equine artist in the world by painting

:24:04. > :24:10.triumphant images, like his most famous work. Just look at that pose,

:24:10. > :24:14.and compare it to the tired, worn out and Hambletonian. Stubbs was

:24:14. > :24:18.not the only one choosing to show the world a more realistic image of

:24:18. > :24:24.horseracing. At the same time, a book was published which raised

:24:24. > :24:30.concerns about the way horses were treated. It told how some jockeys

:24:30. > :24:34.cut their horses during races through excessive use of the whip.

:24:34. > :24:40.This race was no exception. In 17 99, there were no rules for the

:24:40. > :24:44.welfare of horses. Jockeys had whips and Spurs like these. It was

:24:44. > :24:51.reported that when both horses crossed the finishing line, they

:24:51. > :24:56.were both badly bleeding. Tim Cox is a trustee of the national

:24:56. > :25:01.Horseracing museum. Was this kind of treatment of race horses, and?

:25:01. > :25:07.think it was, although it does not get featured in the pictures of the

:25:07. > :25:10.time. Everything points to the horse getting cut during the race.

:25:11. > :25:15.-- was it comma? One thing which is missing from the painting is the

:25:15. > :25:20.blood and gore which would have been associated with it, and Stubbs

:25:20. > :25:25.has cut that out. Even though he did not paint any injuries, by

:25:25. > :25:29.departing from his usual style, Stubbs helped to mark a turning

:25:29. > :25:32.point in our relationship with horses. It is a wonderful painting,

:25:32. > :25:38.epitomising the change between the 18th century relationship with

:25:38. > :25:48.animals, to the more 19th century, romantic idea of a horse as

:25:48. > :25:49.

:25:49. > :25:54.something to be revered. It is a masterpiece. I do not have a wall

:25:54. > :25:58.or anywhere near big enough for that. Maybe a yond! Earlier on, we

:25:58. > :26:06.said how your music has inspired lots of people, and Alex is with

:26:06. > :26:09.some fans who may want to ask you a few questions. Yes, I am with David,

:26:09. > :26:14.Maggie and Jessica. You have seen Lionel Richie money terms, but

:26:14. > :26:18.you're going to see him on this tour? Yes, in Liverpool and

:26:18. > :26:28.Manchester. You will have a brilliant time. And you have got a

:26:28. > :26:31.

:26:32. > :26:35.question, Jessica? Yes, have you ever considered doing a duet with

:26:35. > :26:41.One Direction? Everything is possible. We want to change things

:26:41. > :26:49.up, and it would be something to which people would go, what? Well,

:26:49. > :26:53.here is something for you to take a look at... Like I said, it fits!

:26:53. > :27:02.Inspiration is the keyword, and a group of US soldiers from the

:27:02. > :27:09.national Guard have nicked named themselves the All-Night Longers,

:27:09. > :27:14.because of the hours that they fly. Let's have a look. Lionel, have a

:27:14. > :27:19.good time in Europe. Thanks for keeping us all flying all night

:27:19. > :27:23.long. I just want to say that my office might be a bit cooler than

:27:23. > :27:29.yours, but I will not hold that against you. I think you are right

:27:29. > :27:34.- thanks for the CD, Lionel. takes it to another level, when you

:27:34. > :27:38.think of Ooh music getting played in that situation. I cannot tell

:27:38. > :27:42.you how inspiring that is for me. You write a song and you think it

:27:42. > :27:45.is going to be presented in a certain way - these guys are in

:27:45. > :27:49.harm's way every five minutes of their lives, and yet they find

:27:49. > :27:54.something that I have done, that will inspire them or give them what

:27:54. > :27:58.they need. I will tell you a great story about that - when they

:27:58. > :28:04.invaded Iraq, the first thing they found was that the shop owners

:28:04. > :28:09.wanted to announce, we are friendly, please come on in, so they played

:28:09. > :28:12.All Night Long when the troops came in, and the troops played Dancing

:28:12. > :28:17.On The Ceiling on the vehicles coming in, because that was their

:28:17. > :28:20.battle cry. You hear these stories, and you just want to go... We have

:28:20. > :28:27.had loads of people who have been sending in their pictures. We have

:28:27. > :28:37.been inundated. This one is from Richard and Lorna, their first

:28:37. > :28:41.

:28:41. > :28:48.dance, in June, to Penny Lover. This one says, we love you, Lionel,

:28:48. > :28:54.we had My Destiny as a first dance just a couple of weeks ago. This

:28:54. > :29:03.one says, please show Lionel my pumpkin that I can't, of him!

:29:03. > :29:13.that unbelievable? And this couple say, eight years ago, and our first

:29:13. > :29:14.

:29:14. > :29:19.dance was, Stuck On You. Two nights ago, that was the loudest thing.

:29:19. > :29:23.was incredible, my favourite song. If you want to hear any more of

:29:23. > :29:27.Lionel Richie performing around the country, he will be in Liverpool,