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:00:21. > :00:25.Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker.

:00:25. > :00:33.Tonight's guest does a mean impression of Tom Jones and Ronnie

:00:33. > :00:40.Corbett. Tonight, he is starring as himself. It is Rob Brydon! And good

:00:40. > :00:45.to see you. Of course, you are co- hosting Comic Relief. Yes.

:00:45. > :00:51.Direction are doing the official single. They have a fantastic

:00:51. > :00:57.record coming out. Obviously, I am well up on One Direction. "a

:00:57. > :01:02.fantastic record"! We wondered if you could perhaps join them? This

:01:02. > :01:12.is what you would look like in the band. That is one of the saddest

:01:12. > :01:14.

:01:14. > :01:19.sights you will ever see. I met Harry styles, actually. I had a

:01:19. > :01:24.photo with him and showed it to my daughter, and my credibility went

:01:24. > :01:31.through the roof. Are you going to sing with him like you did with

:01:31. > :01:34.Tom? It is a worrying thought, from their point of view! Well, you have

:01:34. > :01:38.joined us on a great night, because we have a lovely film later about

:01:38. > :01:43.what it was like growing up with the The Lion, The Witch And The

:01:43. > :01:48.Wardrobe or the CS Lewis. And that got us thinking - what is in yours?

:01:48. > :01:52.As in, your wardrobe? Have a rummage around and if you find

:01:52. > :01:58.anything weird or wonderful, take a picture of yourself with it and e-

:01:58. > :02:04.mail it to us. Rob, kick us off. What is the weirdest thing in your

:02:05. > :02:09.wardrobe? I have a loincloth. I did a series in Australia a few days

:02:09. > :02:13.ago -- a few years ago called Supernova, and there was a scene in

:02:13. > :02:19.that where I had to be wandering around the outback in a real

:02:19. > :02:26.loincloth, so I kept it. Thought it might spice things up at home. But

:02:26. > :02:34.it hasn't. Does it come out often? In it doesn't. Not since that while

:02:34. > :02:39.the fate for first time. I felt it wise not to repeat that experience.

:02:39. > :02:44.Time for a bit of Mastermind. Our specialist subject tonight is tax

:02:44. > :02:48.and how to avoid paying it. Asking the questions today, a powerful

:02:48. > :02:55.group of demanding MPs. In the hot seat, the firms that make millions

:02:55. > :03:01.by helping others pay less tax. The One Show had special permission to

:03:01. > :03:05.go behind the scenes and get access to the chair of the Public Accounts

:03:05. > :03:09.Committee Margaret Hodge, as she prepared to give the tax advisers a

:03:09. > :03:15.run for their money. Labour MP Margaret Hodge is not a

:03:16. > :03:19.woman to be messed with. I don't know what you takers for. We need

:03:19. > :03:25.proper answers to proper questions. The idea that you come here and do

:03:25. > :03:30.not answering questions, it is not on. As chair of the Public Accounts

:03:30. > :03:34.Committee, it is her job to make sure taxpayers don't get short-

:03:34. > :03:38.changed. This robust probing of tax affairs of Google, Amazon and

:03:38. > :03:43.Starbucks raised eyebrows and helped force the US coffee giant

:03:43. > :03:46.into paying more tax in the UK. Behind this door, Margaret Hodge is

:03:47. > :03:53.gearing up for her committee's next moment in the spotlight. She agreed

:03:53. > :04:01.to give me some insight into how she prepares for battle. We are

:04:01. > :04:05.here to talk about tax. I never feel confident. Maybe that is me. I

:04:05. > :04:12.feel really nervous, really conscious that I am not an expert

:04:12. > :04:15.in this world. But I hope this time, I have prepared. Facing the Public

:04:15. > :04:18.Accounts Committee's questions today will be the senior

:04:18. > :04:22.accountants to help multinationals lower their tax bills by exploiting

:04:22. > :04:26.the legal loopholes in our tax system. Former tax inspector

:04:26. > :04:31.Richard Brooks's keen to see that the committee does not pull its

:04:31. > :04:34.punches. Everybody else expects rich people and a big companies to

:04:34. > :04:38.pay a reasonable amount of tax on their profits. These characters

:04:38. > :04:41.advise companies on how not to do that. So I think Margaret Hodge's

:04:41. > :04:45.best chance of success is to show the difference between what they do

:04:45. > :04:49.and the public expects. I am like Richard, few MPs have specialist

:04:49. > :04:53.backs knowledge, so Margaret and her committee make sure they do

:04:53. > :04:58.their homework. Our have done a lot of preparation. We have the

:04:58. > :05:04.National Audit Office, whose job it is to prepare reports for us on

:05:04. > :05:09.value for money. I have talked to a lot of experts in the field, and we

:05:09. > :05:13.do go a heck of a lot. How robust will you be in your questioning?

:05:13. > :05:20.Firstly, they always say, everything we do is legal. But we

:05:20. > :05:26.know that they take fantastic risks. Secondly, all too often, these guys

:05:26. > :05:30.come into government and help write the new tax laws. So it is a

:05:30. > :05:34.poacher turned gamekeeper, and then back to poacher again. Before a big

:05:34. > :05:39.hearing, the committee meets for a final briefing. MPs are drawn from

:05:39. > :05:43.different parties to ensure, at least in theory, that the committee

:05:43. > :05:47.does not split along party lines. We don't often wash our dirty linen

:05:47. > :05:52.in public. We will have a private meeting, thrash out the issues and

:05:52. > :06:00.come to a consensus. To date, Margaret wastes no time in getting

:06:00. > :06:07.stuck in. So you have deliberately taken them offshore so that they

:06:07. > :06:11.don't pay their fair share of tax in the UK. That stinks. I don't

:06:11. > :06:16.agree, Madam Chairman, obviously. I think we are giving the best advice

:06:16. > :06:19.we can. By Esther advice in what context? To businesses that are

:06:19. > :06:23.competing internationally. Best advice to them, or to the

:06:23. > :06:30.collective good? We are giving the best advice to the client and the

:06:30. > :06:37.options they have. Margaret, I am here to ambush you. How did it go?

:06:37. > :06:41.I am exhausted. I think it went well. Nobody cried. You did not

:06:41. > :06:46.have any breakdowns, or anybody sobbing and saying, I have done

:06:46. > :06:51.wrong. I have never had anybody cry in giving evidence to us. But I

:06:51. > :06:56.think I got more than I hoped. We are trying to make sure everybody

:06:56. > :07:00.pays their fair share according to the profits they make.

:07:00. > :07:05.Well, tax specialist Richard Murphy joins us now, someone else who has

:07:05. > :07:12.been liaising with Margaret. We heard her reaction to this morning.

:07:12. > :07:16.Do you think they landed any big punches? Not the way they did with

:07:16. > :07:20.Google, Starbucks and Amazon, but we learnt a lot. We learnt that

:07:20. > :07:23.these big firms do sell tax avoidance. It took two hours to get

:07:23. > :07:27.them to admit it, which is some indication of how careful they are

:07:27. > :07:34.about the language they use. We learnt that they have so many

:07:34. > :07:37.branches in tax havens that one of the people they did not even know

:07:37. > :07:43.where his firms have offices and have to be reminded. We know that

:07:43. > :07:46.their auditors sign the deal's off. We know that these companies are

:07:46. > :07:50.not only selling tax avoidance, but as Margaret pointed out, they are

:07:50. > :07:53.also helping to write the law for the Government. So a lot of issues

:07:53. > :07:58.came out this morning which let people understand better what the

:07:58. > :08:03.roles of these firms are. mentioned Google, Starbucks and

:08:03. > :08:08.Amazon. We all know about those three. But how began operation is

:08:08. > :08:14.tax avoidance? A HM Revenue and Customs reckon tax-avoidance costs

:08:14. > :08:19.the UK �5 billion a year. I reckon it costs �25 billion a year. There

:08:19. > :08:22.is obviously a big difference there. Google, Starbucks and Amazon are

:08:22. > :08:26.not actually in the revenue's estimates at all, because they

:08:27. > :08:30.don't think that problem can be solved yet, so they have not added

:08:30. > :08:34.it into the total, but I have. It is a lot of money we are talking

:08:34. > :08:38.about. I am sure those in the firing line would argue that what

:08:38. > :08:42.they are doing is not illegal, but what will the Government do to

:08:42. > :08:46.crack down on this? It is not illegal, but nor is it definitely

:08:46. > :08:53.legal. It happens firstly between different states, not just in the

:08:53. > :08:59.UK. So you are finding loopholes. That is what tax-avoidance is,

:08:59. > :09:04.going round the law. Surely it is clear if somebody is doing it.

:09:04. > :09:10.Could you not make it illegal? some extent, it is clear. You

:09:10. > :09:14.recognise it when you see it, but try to define it is hard. It is

:09:14. > :09:24.like an elephant. But that is great, and it has a trunk. I should not

:09:24. > :09:27.have said that next to a comedian! You have a slim grasp of reality,

:09:27. > :09:33.my friend. The The ayes to the right is that we can grasp the

:09:33. > :09:37.reality, because what is actually reported and where it is happening

:09:37. > :09:41.and where it is going on, that is the big test. Is it possible to

:09:41. > :09:45.make it illegal? The government is trying. It has a law coming up. I

:09:45. > :09:52.don't think that will work well enough. We have to push harder to

:09:52. > :10:00.solve this. There is a tax deadline out today. You have four hours and

:10:00. > :10:05.50 minutes to get your tax return in. Online, you can still do it.

:10:05. > :10:08.You can do it before midnight. As we have already seen on The One

:10:08. > :10:12.Show this week, parts of the country have been affected by

:10:12. > :10:17.flooding yet again. By but one area of Cheshire is still recovering

:10:17. > :10:22.from the September floods of last year.

:10:22. > :10:26.The Trent and Mersey canal is 93 miles long and 235 years old, but

:10:26. > :10:33.in September last year, part of this historic waterway dramatically

:10:33. > :10:39.gave way, draining into a farmer's field. Whoa can't go much further.

:10:39. > :10:45.Local tea room a Warner Belinda saw the breach happened. What happened?

:10:45. > :10:51.It was amazing. Let me show you an image. You were one of the first on

:10:51. > :10:55.the scene. Yes. This was at about eight in the morning. There were

:10:55. > :11:05.cracks where I was stood. I was pinned right back against the hedge.

:11:05. > :11:06.

:11:06. > :11:10.The were you not scared? Ferry. You can see I was shaking. People

:11:10. > :11:16.obviously using the canals and the boats, they can't get this far up.

:11:16. > :11:20.No. The Cheshire Ring is now a dead end. So you need it fixed quickly.

:11:20. > :11:23.Very much so. It is not just the boaters and holidaymakers we will

:11:23. > :11:28.miss, it has the walkers and a lot of people using it for dog-walking.

:11:28. > :11:33.A round 2000 miles of canal in the UK is looked after by a charity

:11:33. > :11:38.called the canals and river Trust. They rely heavily on donations.

:11:38. > :11:44.Ince is the operations director in charge of rebuilding the canal.

:11:44. > :11:49.Gobsmacked at how big this is. is a bit of a job. The Trent and

:11:49. > :11:52.Mersey Canal ran along here. Embankment, keeping the water high

:11:52. > :11:59.up above the fields of the wonderful Cheshire countryside.

:11:59. > :12:03.Because of all the rain we had last summer, this bank burst away.

:12:03. > :12:09.Thousands of cubic material were washed away. Millions of litres of

:12:09. > :12:14.canal water. Was it a sudden break of the bank? We had about 24 hours'

:12:14. > :12:17.notice. We knew something was wrong. There have been five times as many

:12:17. > :12:23.land slips in this country in the second half of last year than in

:12:23. > :12:29.any previous year, because of the saturated ground. Being here, it is

:12:29. > :12:35.hard to get across the sheer scale of the devastation. But where I am

:12:35. > :12:40.standing, you could fit 12 double- decker buses! You have to fill this

:12:40. > :12:44.with modern-day materials. What would have been used originally?

:12:44. > :12:48.200 and 50 years ago, they used the material that was here. They dug

:12:48. > :12:53.out from the hillside, created the Embankment and then lined it with

:12:53. > :12:57.clay. The clay forms the seal. We will now use modern materials that

:12:57. > :13:01.will look exactly as it did, but it will be more secure. How important

:13:01. > :13:05.is it to Britain to continue this heritage of canals? Were well, I am

:13:05. > :13:10.biased, but that it is massively important. If you remember the

:13:10. > :13:14.Olympic opening ceremony, everyone was in awe of the industrial

:13:14. > :13:20.revolution and how it was depicted. The canals were part of that. The

:13:20. > :13:25.canal industry generates �500 million of value for the country.

:13:25. > :13:29.We are at the lowest level here on the flood plain, so we will have to

:13:29. > :13:34.gradually step it up. When it is finished, get the canal bed back in,

:13:34. > :13:38.let the water in, boating continues. So for the summer, hopefully you

:13:38. > :13:43.will be ready. It would be lovely if we could come back and see the

:13:43. > :13:52.finished article. You are welcome. Deal. The last one back up their

:13:53. > :13:57.makes the tea. No milk in mind, Euan! Another job well done by a

:13:57. > :14:04.water expert. Rob, you are hosting Comic Relief

:14:04. > :14:09.this year. How long is your stint? There are a lot of posts. I think

:14:09. > :14:12.mine is an hour or an hour and a half. Add it happens to be 25 years

:14:12. > :14:18.of Comic Relief. It isn't that amazing? There are so many

:14:18. > :14:23.highlights over the years. I always remember when Dawn French snog Hugh

:14:23. > :14:27.Grant. I remember that. I remember waiting for that. And when Lenny

:14:27. > :14:34.Henry did the thing with Tom Jones. The singing thing. I always

:14:34. > :14:38.remember those moments. But Comic Relief Bay, Red nose night, always

:14:38. > :14:43.has special moments. What have you got planned? Big things. We are

:14:43. > :14:46.sitting on something big. The new sound vague, Rob. Her I am like a

:14:47. > :14:51.politician. I think it would be wrong at this stage to get into

:14:51. > :14:57.specifics, but let me say this - you will not be disappointed.

:14:57. > :15:02.one of the big pushes this year is malaria and preventing malaria. So

:15:02. > :15:12.you went to Africa, and here is you with a mother and child affected by

:15:12. > :15:13.

:15:13. > :15:19.Hey, there, you are a smiler, aren't you? We have found out that

:15:19. > :15:27.this little girl does have malaria. Don't you? Yes. If you are there

:15:27. > :15:34.thinking, your �5 does not count, well, �5 would pay for a malaria

:15:34. > :15:37.net it may have stopped this little girl getting malaria.

:15:37. > :15:41.Lovely little girl. Such a lovely girl.

:15:41. > :15:47.She was gorgeous. Her mother brought her in early. It is really

:15:47. > :15:52.hard to do those things. Even now as I sit here, you start to fill up.

:15:52. > :15:55.Now that little girl was, the mother brought her in early. She

:15:56. > :16:00.looked full of life. Charming and a smiler, but the majority of the

:16:00. > :16:04.kids they are bringing in are lifeless, limp little things.

:16:04. > :16:09.We witnessed something, I think it will end up in one of the films,

:16:09. > :16:15.where they brought in a little boy, they were trying to put a drip into

:16:15. > :16:20.him, an IV line. They were trying to find a vein. They could not find

:16:20. > :16:26.one on the arms. They were trying to get in through the head. Trying

:16:26. > :16:30.to get this needle in, the nurse could not do it. Then they got one

:16:30. > :16:36.in but there are just lines of mothers with their children. So

:16:36. > :16:41.they get it in, give them the drip. Then the mother carries the child

:16:41. > :16:45.to the ward and, now, don't think of the ward being lovely beds it is

:16:45. > :16:51.awful. They have not got enough drip stands for the drips. So you

:16:51. > :16:55.get four on one. The mothers are sitting on the floor. These

:16:56. > :17:00.children, people are having their dinner now but these children have

:17:00. > :17:04.problems with their waterworks, that is all going on.

:17:04. > :17:10.It is horrendous. I have watched these films and I've

:17:10. > :17:14.been affected by them. But when you are there... And the

:17:14. > :17:18.smell... Oh, it was a real, it was very hard.

:17:18. > :17:25.It stays with you a long time. You are carrying that through on

:17:25. > :17:28.the night. The last time that Comic Relief was on, �74 .3 million on

:17:28. > :17:33.the night. That figure goes up it is

:17:33. > :17:37.remarkable, but when you see... When you see the films. I have been

:17:37. > :17:43.privilegeed to go and see it. The way that we live here, I know you

:17:43. > :17:46.have been out, Alex but you can't compete, really it is like another

:17:47. > :17:51.planet, not another continent. The thing is that it does not have to

:17:51. > :17:55.be that way. Especially with malaria. It is preventable. The

:17:56. > :18:00.nets cost �5. It is about educating and then giving the equipment that

:18:00. > :18:04.is needed. Let's hope that people will be as

:18:04. > :18:08.generous this year. I really hope so. I know these are

:18:08. > :18:13.difficult times, but by our standards it is very little one has

:18:13. > :18:18.to give to make a massive difference.

:18:18. > :18:25.Completely. Now he is impossibly cute and spiky.

:18:25. > :18:30.Thank you! He puts in the occasional... I am 47, yet there is

:18:30. > :18:35.a youthful energy it is odd. That's it. We are not talking about you.

:18:35. > :18:39.No, we are not even talking about Chris Evans, we are talking about

:18:39. > :18:44.the British hedgehog and wildlife experts are worried that hedgehogs

:18:44. > :18:51.could be under threat because of some problems.

:18:51. > :18:55.Miranda has been to the Channel Islands to track down a rarer type

:18:55. > :18:58.of hedgehog. Alderney covers three square miles

:18:58. > :19:04.with 2,000 residents, but it has unusual wildlife.

:19:04. > :19:10.Along with all of the bees, rabbits and birds, there are around 700

:19:10. > :19:14.hedgehogs on the island. But these are no ordinary hedgehogs.

:19:14. > :19:20.Over half of them are not brown, they are blonde.

:19:20. > :19:25.Back in the 1950s, there were no hedgehogs on the islands, but local

:19:25. > :19:32.legend has it in the 60s, three brown pairs were brought back from

:19:32. > :19:36.the mainland as pets and escaped. James is from the Alderney Wildlife

:19:36. > :19:42.Trust. A certain number of the hedgehogs

:19:42. > :19:48.are blonde hedgehog. They are not albinos? No, it is a

:19:48. > :19:53.gene that is carried by brown hedgehogs. If there are two that

:19:53. > :19:58.carry it, then one out of four of their off spring will be blonde.

:19:58. > :20:04.For a night-time animal it is seems a strang adaptation. There are

:20:04. > :20:07.blonde hedgehog on the UK mainland but this are rare. Here they make

:20:07. > :20:12.up 60% of the population that is likely to rise.

:20:12. > :20:16.Here we don't have foxes or badgers, so they are safe from these types

:20:16. > :20:21.of pred tores. Some locals feed them in the

:20:21. > :20:26.gardens and head out to catch a glimpse of them at night. Some will

:20:26. > :20:32.even join the hedgehog surveys to count the browns, versus the blonde.

:20:33. > :20:39.I am excited as I have never seen a blonde hedgehog before. So, tonight,

:20:39. > :20:44.it may be the night! Within ten minutes of searching, we find

:20:44. > :20:48.something. Is it blonde? Unfortunately, for me it is a

:20:48. > :20:54.juvenile brown one, but it is important for the survey. They need

:20:54. > :21:00.to know if it is a male or female. It's a boy. As for us, we are back

:21:00. > :21:05.on the search for the blonde. It is not long before we strike lucky.

:21:05. > :21:09.Look, that is definitely a blonde hedgehog, look how white it is.

:21:10. > :21:15.Look at that! That is cute and ridiculous all at once.

:21:15. > :21:20.Look at that little white nose. There are no fleas on the hedgehogs.

:21:20. > :21:29.In the UK there would be 500 fleas on it. It would be obvious.

:21:29. > :21:35.They leave tubing on a couple of their spines so they don count the

:21:35. > :21:38.hedgehogs twice. There we go, the first time I see a

:21:38. > :21:42.blonde hedgehog. They are so unusual, you can see why the

:21:42. > :21:47.islanders have taken them into their hearts. Let's hope that they

:21:47. > :21:55.continue to thrive here on Alderney. There you go little chap.

:21:55. > :21:59.I like the blonde little ones. It is a change! LAUGHTER If you want

:21:59. > :22:02.it take part in the survey, it starts tomorrow. There is more

:22:02. > :22:09.information available on the website.

:22:09. > :22:15.And a nice change for you, Rob, was your West End debut, wasn't it?

:22:15. > :22:20.Why did you do it? I spent four months in the West End with A

:22:20. > :22:25.Chorus Of Disapproval. It is hard work. With Trevor Nunn. You know it

:22:25. > :22:29.is hard work. You think you go on stage once a night but for me it

:22:29. > :22:33.was hard. I have never done anything for that long.

:22:33. > :22:40.But I thoroughly enjoyed it. have good reviews. Although there

:22:40. > :22:46.are some that we cannot make head nor tail of. The Guardian saying he

:22:46. > :22:55.unleashs a terrific riff. Is that good? They are not saying that I

:22:56. > :23:03.broke wind! What about this one, a deliciously, bossyness about him.

:23:03. > :23:09.And the Wales Online saying Rob Brydon appear tobs a natural at

:23:09. > :23:12.this testing medium! In this brave new medium of theatre! It is a new

:23:12. > :23:16.idea! Another thing you were a natural of in a testing medium was

:23:17. > :23:20.working on the Shopping Channel. This is you.

:23:21. > :23:26.There we are. So we thought why not give you this.

:23:26. > :23:36.I will hold this. There we are. And now do the hard sell on the

:23:36. > :23:41.Comic Relief noses! OK, well, our next item is this

:23:41. > :23:49.fantastic, red nose 2013 nose. Now, let me show you. It measures

:23:49. > :23:54.about... It is measuring, oops, the wrong end of the ruler.

:23:54. > :24:00.It is about uninch there. For anybody watching in Scandinavia,

:24:00. > :24:04.that is three inches across the bottom and up to the top four to

:24:04. > :24:12.four-and-a-half inches. There are so many things to do. You can fit

:24:12. > :24:17.it on your nose like that. And you can't put this on without

:24:17. > :24:21.doing a little bit of Ronnie Corbett! Brilliant! There is the

:24:21. > :24:25.klaxon. They are very comfortable, those

:24:25. > :24:31.noses. I remember having a nosebleed from the early ones.

:24:31. > :24:37.Back in the early days of Comic Relief, the noses were barbaric. We

:24:37. > :24:42.think that they prompted riots, the great riots of' 8, but these are

:24:42. > :24:47.soft.. Better to have them on than off!, Right, then, in Chronicles of

:24:47. > :24:52.Narnia, everyone remembers the characters of the lion, the witch

:24:53. > :24:59.and the wardrobe. The stories lts featured the man

:24:59. > :25:04.named Mr Tumnus. I have very small feet. With a wide

:25:04. > :25:11.bottom, I look like Mr Tumnus. The question is, what would it be

:25:11. > :25:15.like to grow up with CS Lewis? Let's see.

:25:16. > :25:22.People see CS Lewis on the spines of books, Clive Staples "CS" Lewis,

:25:22. > :25:27.the great scholar, writer, but to me, he was not CS Lewis at all, he

:25:28. > :25:32.was just Jack. He was the man who first became my friend and later my

:25:32. > :25:39.stepfather. Later, Jack was the man that I admired and respected and

:25:39. > :25:44.loved most in the world. My brother and I came to Oxford in 1953. I was

:25:44. > :25:51.taken to meet CS Lewis, the man on speaking terms with high king,

:25:51. > :25:56.Peter of Narnia and Aslan, the great lion. I expected him to

:25:56. > :26:03.bewaring a sword and armour, but instead, when I came to the back

:26:03. > :26:07.door, there was a balding stooping man, in shabby clothes. With

:26:08. > :26:16.cigarette-stained fingers and teeth. He looked strange to me, but soon,

:26:16. > :26:23.he became so much more. Jack was a fellow of English At

:26:23. > :26:27.Oxford for almost 30 years. He would take us walking out around

:26:27. > :26:34.the University. Because of who he was, I got lots of privileges. I

:26:34. > :26:40.felt so chuffed that I could see him around the place and get into

:26:40. > :26:46.the areas where no-one else could. The movie ShadowLands is a

:26:46. > :26:52.wonderful film, slightly fictionallised of how Jack and his

:26:52. > :26:57.wife got together. First it started off as a penmanship.

:26:57. > :27:01.My mother had longed to go to England. While she was here, she

:27:01. > :27:06.was going to see if she could meet CS Lewis. That is how they met. A

:27:07. > :27:11.lot of people think that my mother was hunting Jack as a gold digger

:27:11. > :27:16.kind of a situation. She was not. I am glad to see that the house is so

:27:16. > :27:21.well looked after. The CS Lewis Foundation have gone to great pains

:27:21. > :27:25.to restore it to what it would have been in the 19'50s. It is very much

:27:25. > :27:29.similar to how it was when we lived in it. The eight acres that the

:27:30. > :27:35.house sits in, most was sold and destroyed by the gopers but the

:27:35. > :27:39.lake and the -- by the developers but the lake and the woods is still

:27:39. > :27:45.as it was when we were here. Now this is where I spent a great

:27:45. > :27:53.deal of my childhood. It is a magical place. Right now it is

:27:53. > :27:57.hauntingly Narnia. One expects a fawn or a centaur to appear at any

:27:57. > :28:02.moment. Many people regard Jack as sun who lacked himself in a study

:28:02. > :28:08.with a dim light and locked himself away. He was not like that at all.

:28:08. > :28:12.He was athletic. He loved walks in the countryside. One does not think

:28:12. > :28:16.of Jack as being the brave type, but he fought in the First World

:28:16. > :28:21.War, and there was a great deal of character in the man. He was an

:28:21. > :28:25.amazing character. Being a child here had huge advantages, the

:28:25. > :28:32.learning advantages were huge. There were great conversations

:28:32. > :28:36.between my mother and Jack in the diningroom. They would play

:28:36. > :28:40.Scrabble using all known languages. You only have to prove that the

:28:40. > :28:44.world you were using existed in a book in the house and you got away

:28:44. > :28:50.with it. They would tone it down for my benefit but there was no

:28:50. > :28:55.hope of me ever winning. I know that Jack and my mother, in the

:28:56. > :29:00.time before her remission, were the happiest in their lives. My mother

:29:00. > :29:04.died when I was 14, my father committed suicide a year-and-a-half

:29:04. > :29:10.later, Jack died a year-and-a-half after that. It was a traumatic

:29:10. > :29:18.childhood, in a sense. Everyone I ever loved died. This whole area

:29:18. > :29:23.holds many attachments to me, but they are no longer the heavy,

:29:23. > :29:28.grieving morose as they used to be. I can go down to the grave and look