:00:08. > :00:20.Next up in the Den, it is Chris and Alex. Hello, dragons, thank you for
:00:21. > :00:26.having us. I am out. We are not asking for money, we want you to
:00:27. > :00:32.come on The One Show. I think you are very brave, but I am out. We
:00:33. > :00:41.will give you some chocolate cake. Sorry, I am out. It is really good
:00:42. > :00:54.chocolate cake. I am going to make you an offer. That was almost
:00:55. > :01:00.amusing! Welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones. And Chris Evans.
:01:01. > :01:06.Thank goodness one of the dragons saw the potential in us. Please
:01:07. > :01:19.welcome Peter Jones. There is your bribe. That is my favourite. I can
:01:20. > :01:24.slice it for you. Dragons Den is back. Is it true you make your mind
:01:25. > :01:32.up almost instantaneously more about the person than the product? Yes,
:01:33. > :01:37.definitely, it is for me about the person when they come in. The
:01:38. > :01:41.character is really important, like Levi roots. You have to invest with
:01:42. > :01:46.them and then you have to work with them, so you have got to like them.
:01:47. > :01:53.What happens if someone had a brilliant idea, but you do not like
:01:54. > :01:59.them? I would probably still invest. You were not keen on those people
:02:00. > :02:11.with the blanket for the baby. Have you got that? More on that later.
:02:12. > :02:17.But first, a story about the oldest holiday theme park which closed
:02:18. > :02:23.down. However it is about to reopen in 2015. The locals were allowed
:02:24. > :02:31.back in for a priceless day of nostalgia.
:02:32. > :02:36.Margate is often called Britain's original seaside resort. Its history
:02:37. > :02:43.goes further back than Blackpool. No smell ever smells like Margate.
:02:44. > :02:46.Margate fish and chips, salt and vinegar and Dreamland. You could
:02:47. > :02:53.smell it from the beach and you could not wait to get in in the
:02:54. > :02:58.evening. Dreamland itself is the oldest, surviving an amusement park
:02:59. > :03:02.in the United Kingdom. It did not become Dreamland until 1920, but it
:03:03. > :03:10.has a huge history and a huge importance. As much as anything it
:03:11. > :03:15.was all the colours. Everything was painted so brightly, so it was all
:03:16. > :03:24.the sort of things that would attract you. It had a number of
:03:25. > :03:29.heydays. Its most popular years of work in the 1950s when Dreamland was
:03:30. > :03:35.packed and they had seven or eight or 9 million visitors a year. The
:03:36. > :03:42.fact is Dreamland has been closed since 2006, so they have not been
:03:43. > :03:48.able to go onto it for seven years. Three, two, one. We are going to
:03:49. > :03:54.open the gates and let people unto Dreamland. There are no rights, it
:03:55. > :03:58.is a derelict site, and they can understand the challenge we have
:03:59. > :04:03.over the next 18 months. This used to be the place where everybody
:04:04. > :04:11.came. We have got the site and we can use it again to bring it back. I
:04:12. > :04:22.spent so much time down here, just being here, if you like, that my
:04:23. > :04:28.family called me Dreamland lives. It makes me think of being little and
:04:29. > :04:34.feeling a bit sick with excitement because today was going to be the
:04:35. > :04:39.day that we go to Dreamland. My grandad worked here in the early
:04:40. > :04:44.1950s. He painted the scenic Railway. When I was little, every
:04:45. > :04:53.day we came, he reminded me he painted the scenic Railway and he
:04:54. > :04:58.was really proud of that. The scenic Railway is the most important roller
:04:59. > :05:02.coasters in the United Kingdom, it is the oldest roller-coaster. It is
:05:03. > :05:07.different from modern day ones, which would have wheels under the
:05:08. > :05:12.track. Instead of that there is a break man who sits on a stool at the
:05:13. > :05:19.back of the train, so literally your life is in his hands. There would be
:05:20. > :05:24.a brake lever where I would sit and that broke the speed of the train.
:05:25. > :05:32.If you sat at the back, you would get that kick. Because it is quite
:05:33. > :05:48.old it is not going to be that fun people think, but it really is. In
:05:49. > :05:53.Dreamland I saw the who, the small faces, the animals, the Hollies,
:05:54. > :06:00.Juno Washington, every group that was in the charts in the 60s. In
:06:01. > :06:05.1969 on New Year's Eve I met my wife in Dreamland. She was wearing red
:06:06. > :06:08.shoes and she was dancing with all her friends and they used to put
:06:09. > :06:13.their handbags on the dance floor and dance around their handbags. We
:06:14. > :06:18.were married two years later and we are still married 42 years on. We
:06:19. > :06:23.used to come back to Dreamland as much as we possibly could because
:06:24. > :06:27.that is where we met. It was sad to see it close, but today we have
:06:28. > :06:36.walked around and seeing the places we used to see 40 years ago. It is a
:06:37. > :06:42.cliche, but it is the heartbeat of Margate. Everybody wants to see
:06:43. > :06:51.Dreamland open. We want to bring back the old vintage British. It
:06:52. > :06:55.worked before, so it can work again. As we heard Dreamland is going to
:06:56. > :06:59.reopen permanently and will be transformed back to its former glory
:07:00. > :07:08.with the help of designer Wayne Hemmingway. It is a lovely project.
:07:09. > :07:11.What is your vision? One is that the world's first amusement park has an
:07:12. > :07:17.historic ride with the scenic Railway. But we are buying things
:07:18. > :07:22.from other parts of Britain, from Blackpool and Southport. But there
:07:23. > :07:26.is going to be a lot more. Elvis Costello played there and we want to
:07:27. > :07:30.bring it back as a place where you can dance and where families can go
:07:31. > :07:36.and there is no entrance to get into the park. You will be able to
:07:37. > :07:40.picnic. We want Roger Daltrey to be there and we want Elvis Costello to
:07:41. > :07:49.be there. It will be an event space where you could bring your classic
:07:50. > :07:52.car. Deal done. We could have a food fair. We know how difficult it is to
:07:53. > :07:57.run a theme park and the money behind this is less than the annual
:07:58. > :08:01.combined budget of Blackpool and Thorpe Park in terms of their
:08:02. > :08:06.marketing budget. So we have got to do other things. It is amazing what
:08:07. > :08:11.you can do when you have got the public behind you. This is almost
:08:12. > :08:14.being funded by Margate as a community. When you have got that
:08:15. > :08:20.groundswell of excitement from a town that want it to happen, it is
:08:21. > :08:25.such an amazing project to work on. And it is part of an all-round
:08:26. > :08:30.Renaissance of Margate itself. Margate is very excited at the
:08:31. > :08:35.moment. It has had problems over the past couple of decades, but it is
:08:36. > :08:39.close to London, the high-speed train goes down to Ashford and that
:08:40. > :08:46.has brought the travel time down by half an hour. The land value is very
:08:47. > :08:52.low, so a lot of creative people are moving out of London and setting up
:08:53. > :08:56.businesses and home there. I am not old enough to remember Brighton when
:08:57. > :09:01.it first got going, but people keep telling me this is a small version
:09:02. > :09:06.of Brighton. It has got that excitement and that energy. I go
:09:07. > :09:10.down there every couple of weeks and something new has open and a young
:09:11. > :09:16.creative person has thought, I am going to have a go. We would
:09:17. > :09:21.definitely go for a day out. But the question is, if Wayne walked into
:09:22. > :09:28.Dragons Den and he pitched Margate to you, would you be in? I would be
:09:29. > :09:34.in. I think it is wonderful and it is amazing. And you have not spent a
:09:35. > :09:38.fortune on it. We have not got a fortune to spend on it and without
:09:39. > :09:42.the community and the lottery, and the council, it would not be
:09:43. > :09:51.happening. But people can things happen. Especially with the passion
:09:52. > :09:56.we can seek boozing proud of you. Dragons Den is back on BBC Two and
:09:57. > :10:03.the Dragons are not agreeing on what makes worthwhile investment.
:10:04. > :10:11.Will you have a look? We have got some packages. Interest from a major
:10:12. > :10:18.retailer, the icing on the cake for Kelly Hoppen. But does Peter Jones
:10:19. > :10:22.share her enthusiasm? Are we being serious. This is a carry bag for a
:10:23. > :10:28.baby and you are pitching this is a business that is worth half ?1
:10:29. > :10:36.million? You have put a handle on a blanket. It is a lifting aid. You
:10:37. > :10:44.can do the same with a blanket and you can lift the baby up. That is
:10:45. > :10:48.not saved. That is not safe anyway. You get into a routine and you will
:10:49. > :10:56.forget you have got a baby in there and it will be like a handbag. You
:10:57. > :11:01.were not keen. It was literally a handle on a blanket and he wanted to
:11:02. > :11:10.have ?1 million. I was born on a day, but it was not yesterday. He is
:11:11. > :11:17.getting lots of people must come in with baby centric ideas. Is it true?
:11:18. > :11:22.It is true, but he was particularly interesting, and I thought they were
:11:23. > :11:26.winding me up, but he literally had sewn on these handles onto a
:11:27. > :11:32.blanket. But I was a bit embarrassed afterwards, because when I looked at
:11:33. > :11:39.it it was very well crafted and it was a very good product. Is this
:11:40. > :11:48.Dragon guilt? It is guilt, I did feel a bit tired. And there is a
:11:49. > :11:51.fabulous line-up this year? Piers Linney is an entrepreneur from the
:11:52. > :11:57.Midlands and we have got the beautiful and lovely Kelly Hoppen.
:11:58. > :12:03.And we have still got Deborah and Duncan. Does the dynamic change when
:12:04. > :12:10.the new Dragons come in? Yes, it does. Piers Linney has been trying
:12:11. > :12:15.to find his feet. Next year is going to be tough because he will know
:12:16. > :12:19.what it is about and we will have to compete a lot harder. Kelly is
:12:20. > :12:24.coming from a completely different perspective, which is refreshing,
:12:25. > :12:29.because we needed a change. She is clearly a designer and that is what
:12:30. > :12:34.she is good at and she has got a creative brain. Sometimes she will
:12:35. > :12:42.get it and we will miss it. But I still miss Theo. But what about
:12:43. > :12:48.Kelly? She is very enthusiastic and she does not step back and she is
:12:49. > :12:54.not that kind of entrepreneur. But she is a bit easier to sell to. But
:12:55. > :12:59.I think she will harden up and she is a sharp lady and she knows what
:13:00. > :13:06.she is doing. What about the ?1 million at somebody asks for last
:13:07. > :13:12.week? That is embarrassing. 20% of the company. Would you ever say yes
:13:13. > :13:17.to ?1 million? We have literally ten minutes to make a decision and that
:13:18. > :13:22.is like a roulette wheel, so probably not. That is a step too
:13:23. > :13:28.far. What is the most successful business you have invested in? In
:13:29. > :13:33.the first series I invested in Wonderland Magazine and that is
:13:34. > :13:40.still going today, I invested ?175,000, which was a lot of money.
:13:41. > :13:45.And I invested in Levi roots for ?25,000 and six years later we have
:13:46. > :13:50.got a business worth 30 million. But he did a lot of the work for you
:13:51. > :13:58.because he was such a big character? Absolutely. He goes out, he is the
:13:59. > :14:04.character, we run the business, and it works. Levi is a breath of fresh
:14:05. > :14:10.air and he is such a talent as well. Could he be a drag on for a series?
:14:11. > :14:15.Yes, I would love him too, because he is sharp, he is a clever guy. We
:14:16. > :14:23.have got plans to do a restaurant chain with him. Good on him, he has
:14:24. > :14:28.done well. Dragons Den returns on Sunday at nine o'clock. The transfer
:14:29. > :14:34.window comes to a close tonight in the football world. But tomorrow it
:14:35. > :14:38.is all about the rugby. Tomorrow sees the start of the six
:14:39. > :14:43.Nations and it will be six in ten weeks where each nation will go to
:14:44. > :14:48.battle. But what about the wives and girlfriends who have to shed those
:14:49. > :14:53.emotions? The highs of victory and the despair of defeat? I have come
:14:54. > :14:59.to meet some of them to find out what that is like. There are many
:15:00. > :15:07.things the partners have to do to help players before and after the
:15:08. > :15:12.game. I do not think I have an hour in the day to cook them a meal. They
:15:13. > :15:16.have their own meals. It is embarrassing when you go out for
:15:17. > :15:26.dinner because they have had already two meals. If he was home, he would
:15:27. > :15:30.eat a big bowl of pasta beforehand. Tuna, pasta and sweetcorn with
:15:31. > :15:35.mayonnaise and sour cream, which sounds revolting! We got together
:15:36. > :15:40.when we were students. But was where it came from. Are there any
:15:41. > :15:44.superstitions that they carry on at home? Robbie does not tend to do
:15:45. > :15:55.much washing in our household, but he does wash his kit. The night
:15:56. > :16:04.before, he will wash his kit, hang it out, dry it, leave my stuff on
:16:05. > :16:07.the side. I kept putting his scrum hats in the washing machine and they
:16:08. > :16:12.would shrink. I have never seen a large man so angry at having to wear
:16:13. > :16:18.a small hat to work. Where do you watch the games? We normally spend
:16:19. > :16:25.our Saturdays together. Loads of the girls will get together and watch
:16:26. > :16:29.with the family. What is the feeling like for you if you are watching on
:16:30. > :16:35.TV and you think it was a bad performance? If things did not go
:16:36. > :16:39.well, you know they will be gutted. It is a huge honour to play for
:16:40. > :16:44.their country. All they want to do is win. So I work out how to
:16:45. > :16:48.empathise with him and talk things through if he wants to, or
:16:49. > :16:52.completely change subjects. Give them space, let them process what
:16:53. > :17:00.has happened in the game. Maybe a few hours later, try and make a cup
:17:01. > :17:05.of tea. It must be scary sometimes to watch. I have a rule in my own
:17:06. > :17:10.head to count to ten, and who he was still down after ten seconds, I
:17:11. > :17:14.would know it was bad. I have just had to get used to it and pick up
:17:15. > :17:20.the pieces if he did get injured and just be there for him until he was
:17:21. > :17:24.fit again. Sometimes you come to the game just to make sure they walk off
:17:25. > :17:27.again at the end of it. It is extremely frightening to see someone
:17:28. > :17:35.you love get battered and bashed and may become off injured. Are there
:17:36. > :17:39.any other superstitions he has carried on with? No, they are very
:17:40. > :17:41.rare. Good luck to all the ladies and the home nations playing this
:17:42. > :17:51.weekend. Peter, you are a big rugby fan?
:17:52. > :17:55.Massive. He is massive! I was a shirt sponsor of wasps for about
:17:56. > :17:59.three years. But how good is he at playing the game? You will have
:18:00. > :18:06.three attempt in our rugby simulator. If you do it, you will be
:18:07. > :18:12.able to wear the England shirt for the rest of the show. If you don't
:18:13. > :18:19.do so well, I am afraid it is the French shirt for the remainder of
:18:20. > :18:22.the game. I know you have a pal who used to be in the game and still
:18:23. > :18:26.hangs around whenever they let him near, Will Carling, so we thought we
:18:27. > :18:39.would bring him in to give you some tips. How are you? Will, what do you
:18:40. > :18:46.know about ticking? Not a lot. I asked Nick Evans, who knows a lot.
:18:47. > :18:52.Keep your head down, like golf. Swing right through it, a bit like
:18:53. > :18:57.golf. And be relaxed. Think of the millions watching you. We dedicate
:18:58. > :19:07.this to your son, who is also called Will. He is talented, though. Off
:19:08. > :19:12.you go. Take your mark. Best of the three, Peter. I am sure that will
:19:13. > :19:30.make all the difference! That was a bit rubbish. Was that a
:19:31. > :19:45.technical term? I think you pulled it. You were a bit tense. Relax.
:19:46. > :19:54.This could be an omen for tomorrow. Will, I think you will agree, he has
:19:55. > :20:00.got the length. Yes, he has. This is your big one. Now he is going to hit
:20:01. > :20:23.it. Don't think about your kids and their friends, watching you. Just
:20:24. > :20:27.relax. Oh, no. Will, show us. Former England captain, Will Carling. As
:20:28. > :20:43.long as I don't have to wear a French shirt. No pressure. What
:20:44. > :20:48.happened to there? All right. Now, I know you might not be able to tell,
:20:49. > :20:56.but I have been to the gym recently. I look like the bloke in the last
:20:57. > :20:59.film. Long before Charles Atlas, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sly
:21:00. > :21:03.Stallone, this was the man who was famed the world over for flexing his
:21:04. > :21:09.muscles. His name was Eugene. He was one of
:21:10. > :21:13.the first stars to be immortalised on film.
:21:14. > :21:18.That was in 1894 by Thomas Edison, who invented an early movie camera
:21:19. > :21:23.as well as the first practical light bulb. Despite all the fame and
:21:24. > :21:29.glory, he died a forgotten man, buried in a grave which was unmarked
:21:30. > :21:33.for more than 80 years. His great-grandson, Chris Davies, has
:21:34. > :21:38.been researching this pioneer of physical fitness for many years.
:21:39. > :21:42.What was so special about him 's he realised at a young age that he did
:21:43. > :21:46.have an athletic physique. He may have been a small man by today's
:21:47. > :21:53.standards, but he realised that to hard work and developing his own
:21:54. > :21:59.body, he could sell himself. Born in East Prussia in 1867, a young Eugene
:22:00. > :22:02.excelled at gymnastics. In his teens, he ran away to join the
:22:03. > :22:07.circus. He toured Europe with them and met a renowned strongman who
:22:08. > :22:15.helped him develop his soon-to-be famous physique. Attila had his own
:22:16. > :22:20.systems, and Eugene was able to develop his own ideas. And he soon
:22:21. > :22:25.changed his name. It was Friedrich Muller? He was of Polish Jewish
:22:26. > :22:28.extraction and did not want to give away his true name, because in those
:22:29. > :22:34.days, there was such anti-Semitism that you would get nowhere. So he
:22:35. > :22:39.was a great master of inventing himself. In 1889, a reinvented and
:22:40. > :22:45.newly chiselled Eugene travelled to London, where he took on and beat
:22:46. > :22:49.two prominent strongmen called Cyclops and Samson. This feet thrust
:22:50. > :22:54.him into the limelight and he toured the country for four years. Not
:22:55. > :23:00.content with his success at home, he toured America and teamed up with a
:23:01. > :23:05.Broadway impresario who helped him become subject of a motion picture.
:23:06. > :23:11.His fame would reach new heights the world over. He was a very rich man
:23:12. > :23:17.and due to the success of his American tour, he was able to live
:23:18. > :23:21.in a very grand style. On his return to London, he cashed in on his
:23:22. > :23:27.popularity, promoting his unique brand of fitness, endorsing gym
:23:28. > :23:37.equipment. I have come to the theatre where Sandow would have
:23:38. > :23:40.promoted his work. He used this Rand, the extraordinary recognition
:23:41. > :23:46.factor as we would call it today, by opening a gym. Then he built a whole
:23:47. > :23:50.chain of these and patented a range of different devices designed to
:23:51. > :23:54.help you with the exercise programme. For example, the
:23:55. > :24:02.dumbbells. This one is a spring-loaded dumbbell that you have
:24:03. > :24:05.to squeeze to bring interaction. Sandow believed that it's his system
:24:06. > :24:08.was introduced across the country, the well-being of the nation's minds
:24:09. > :24:12.and bodies would benefit considerably. He had thousands of
:24:13. > :24:18.adherents who followed his programme by mail order. And he came along and
:24:19. > :24:21.said, we are not go to talk about the decline of a generation, we are
:24:22. > :24:26.going to talk about regeneration and strength. His fame and influence
:24:27. > :24:32.enabled him to stage the first major body-building competition at the
:24:33. > :24:37.royal Albert Hall in 1901. And his wadi was cast by the Natural History
:24:38. > :24:41.Museum is an example of the perfect form -- his body. I am taking a
:24:42. > :24:47.replica of the statue to a London gym, to see how he measures up to
:24:48. > :24:56.the body-builders today. Have you heard of Eugen Sandow? He was a
:24:57. > :25:01.significant icon. It is amazing to think how far it has come since
:25:02. > :25:05.those days. Sandow died in 1925 a forgotten man, poor from his failed
:25:06. > :25:10.as Ms ventures and shunned by his wife and children, due to his
:25:11. > :25:16.philandering ways. A sad eyes for a man once admired the world over.
:25:17. > :25:20.Eugen tempt two was not only the father of the building, he was the
:25:21. > :25:26.father of a worldwide industry now worth billions of pounds. Not bad
:25:27. > :25:27.for a young man who, seeking adventure, run away to join the
:25:28. > :26:05.circus. Fantastic! We have been joined
:26:06. > :26:10.mightily by Peter and his French rugby shirt but also the Royal
:26:11. > :26:15.Artillery Band, who have just played their regimental march. This is
:26:16. > :26:19.Captain Craig Hallatt. Welcome to the programme. I have never seen
:26:20. > :26:22.such a tall man in a fridge rugby shirt . Tell us the story of what is
:26:23. > :26:27.going on with your band in the next couple of weeks. We are
:26:28. > :26:34.restructuring, like the rest of the army. The Royal Artillery Band will
:26:35. > :26:39.move to Wiltshire. So you have changed your location. The band is
:26:40. > :26:43.going to carry on, but you are doing your separate ways. Yes, all the
:26:44. > :26:49.members of the band will be going to one of 22 bands across the country.
:26:50. > :26:53.Lance Bob Adair Pierce, you came back from Afghanistan recently to
:26:54. > :26:58.find your band disbanded, so to speak. What are you going to do
:26:59. > :27:04.now, musically? I have been posted to the Army Air Corps band. I am
:27:05. > :27:11.going in as a vocalist to be part of the new contemporary rock group.
:27:12. > :27:16.What were you doing in Afghanistan? 18 of us went out there twice in the
:27:17. > :27:19.last six months to provide user can support and morale for the troops on
:27:20. > :27:24.the ground while they are away from their loved ones. Captain, the band
:27:25. > :27:28.will play a couple more dates? They will. Next weekend, we say farewell
:27:29. > :27:32.to the Woolwich with a concert on Saturday. On Sunday, we have a
:27:33. > :27:39.parade. Our final swansong will be a trip to India in February. Thank you
:27:40. > :27:43.for a good turnout. Get along and watch the band. That is it for
:27:44. > :27:53.tonight. Thank you to Peter Jones, in his French jersey. Wales!
:27:54. > :27:57.Dragons' Den is on BBC Two at nine o'clock, straight after Top Gear.
:27:58. > :28:04.Enjoy the rugby and have a happy Chinese new year. Playing is out now
:28:05. > :28:04.with Post Horn Gallop is the Royal Artillery Band and orchestra.
:28:05. > :28:11.Goodbye!