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:00:08. > :00:13.global hit TV show Game Of Thrones with two of its stars. It's made

:00:14. > :00:19.right here in the UK, but set in a fantastical medieval kingdom. We are

:00:20. > :00:24.teetering on the edge of the wall that separates the normal world from

:00:25. > :00:26.a land of undead zombies. Or as we like to call it, The One Show

:00:27. > :00:43.studio! Hello and welcome to the One Show

:00:44. > :00:46.with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker. Tonight's guests are two best

:00:47. > :00:50.friends who have grown up together in a world of multiple deaths,

:00:51. > :00:55.dragons and armies of eunuchs. Don't worry. I don't mean you guys. Well,

:00:56. > :01:00.it sure beats school. Please welcome Game Of Thrones stars Sophie Turner

:01:01. > :01:05.and Maisie Williams! APPLAUSE

:01:06. > :01:10.Lovely to have you with us both of you.

:01:11. > :01:15.Looking very stylish as well. Your show is notorious for getting rid of

:01:16. > :01:21.characters. Sean Bean didn't even make it to the second series. No, we

:01:22. > :01:27.went out pretty quick. I think that's what makes it interesting,

:01:28. > :01:29.the fact we don't have to do is tell of the characters. It must make an

:01:30. > :01:36.exciting for you, reading your scripts? Exactly. Make sure you ask

:01:37. > :01:42.a pay rise, just in case. Writing to the producers works, as well. But

:01:43. > :01:47.they tricked some of the cast members and write fake death scenes

:01:48. > :01:54.for a lot of them. Really? They did that for Alfie. He thought it was

:01:55. > :01:58.going to die. Very funny. Rather cruel of them are full that that's

:01:59. > :02:01.the theme of the show of them. If you're not familiar with Game Of

:02:02. > :02:05.Thrones don't worry because later Matt and I will be attempting to sum

:02:06. > :02:11.up the show in 60 seconds. Good luck. What a reaction that got. With

:02:12. > :02:15.us tonight are some of the hordes who are maybe just a bit too

:02:16. > :02:18.familiar with the show. That's a polite way of putting it. We

:02:19. > :02:22.couldn't keep them out to be honest. If, like them, you enter another

:02:23. > :02:27.world at the weekend, send us your picture and tell us your day job. It

:02:28. > :02:33.could be the War of the Roses or Star Trek. Whatever you want. Recent

:02:34. > :02:36.figures showed that more than twice as many people used food banks last

:02:37. > :02:40.summer than in the same period the year before, and charities have

:02:41. > :02:42.often struggled to keep up with the demand. But some people are

:02:43. > :02:46.sceptical about the value of giving away free food. So when one charity

:02:47. > :02:48.in Glasgow asked rail commuters for help, we sent Joe Crowley to see how

:02:49. > :02:57.they responded. There's an unprecedented demand for

:02:58. > :03:02.food banks right now. In the last year, a number of people reliant on

:03:03. > :03:05.things like food parcels has increased dramatically so the big

:03:06. > :03:12.challenge collecting enough food to give to those in need. One of the

:03:13. > :03:16.biggest operators says more than 14,000 people in Scotland receive

:03:17. > :03:22.food from them between April 20 12th and February 2013. In the following

:03:23. > :03:26.12 months, that number almost quadrupled to 56,000. There's also

:03:27. > :03:32.been arise elsewhere in the UK. Last month, independent food bag Glasgow

:03:33. > :03:37.city Mission ran out of emergency food supplies after a surge in

:03:38. > :03:41.demand. That led to managers at Glasgow Central Station organising a

:03:42. > :03:49.12 hour food donation drive. Why are you doing this? I read an article in

:03:50. > :03:52.the paper saying they had run out of food. That was the first time in

:03:53. > :03:58.their history. People are going hungry and there is a demand for it.

:03:59. > :04:04.We thought, it's ideal, even if we get 1% of people bringing items in,

:04:05. > :04:07.it should make a difference. Some sceptics have said giving away free

:04:08. > :04:14.food creates an insatiable demand. So, how will Scots react as they

:04:15. > :04:17.commute to work and back? I've never been in that situation myself where

:04:18. > :04:22.I have had to get benefits and depend on other people. I hope I

:04:23. > :04:29.never have to do. I can afford to do this. It's no big deal. I just think

:04:30. > :04:35.it's disgraceful people don't have enough food to eat in this country.

:04:36. > :04:38.I'd rather not go to a food bank. If the situation arose and I had no

:04:39. > :04:43.choice and I had to eat, that's what I'd have to do. I would give to the

:04:44. > :04:47.food bank and I have done, but I think we've got to be careful we

:04:48. > :04:51.don't overdo it. Are we going too far, creating a problem and making

:04:52. > :04:55.it worse by giving away all this free food? It creates a problem

:04:56. > :05:00.where people assume you're going to get food. The man who runs the

:05:01. > :05:05.mission agrees food banks are not a permanent solution. Don't think it a

:05:06. > :05:09.long-term solution, but meeting the immediate need, but if your margin

:05:10. > :05:13.in 2013, the beginning of that year when welfare reforms are coming

:05:14. > :05:16.through, we were inundated with telephone calls from agencies

:05:17. > :05:20.looking for food parcels to help meet an immediate need. Tell me

:05:21. > :05:24.about the people coming to you and the situations they are in. Some are

:05:25. > :05:29.unemployed, some on benefits, people coming in and got children at home,

:05:30. > :05:34.who are in tears, embarrassed, there's a stigma to it and we are

:05:35. > :05:39.trying to remove that to say, if you are in need, we want to help you. It

:05:40. > :05:44.is embarrassing because I was only in year five or six, so I was quite

:05:45. > :05:48.young, but it helped. There was a lot of stress off my mum 's mind as

:05:49. > :05:52.well, so it got us through that particular Christmas. It was a great

:05:53. > :05:56.help for my family and made a difference without a doubt. People

:05:57. > :05:59.have to meet and I'm sure people using the food banks are not doing

:06:00. > :06:05.it because they want to. They are doing it because they have to do. Do

:06:06. > :06:10.you worry people take advantage? You have that in everything. As long as

:06:11. > :06:16.it's available, even those who don't need it. They will always go for it.

:06:17. > :06:20.It's been a brilliant fantastic response from the people of Glasgow.

:06:21. > :06:23.Between this and a number of appeals we've had over two or three weeks,

:06:24. > :06:27.we've seen nearly five months worth of food donated to Glasgow city

:06:28. > :06:33.mission. A big thank you to the people of Glasgow, incredibly

:06:34. > :06:38.generous. After 12 hours we've had a variety of opinions from people

:06:39. > :06:42.surrounding food banks. Regardless of politics what the ultimate

:06:43. > :06:46.solution is, what these donation show its people here really do want

:06:47. > :06:53.to help and they are willing to get whatever they can. Thank you. What a

:06:54. > :07:00.response. If you need food or you want to donate food go to our

:07:01. > :07:03.website. We've put a link to a map that you can search, to find out

:07:04. > :07:08.where your nearest food banks are. Just put your postcode in. We put

:07:09. > :07:17.our postcode in and got 28 within ten miles. In a moment we'll be

:07:18. > :07:19.entering the world of Game Of Thrones which features all sorts of

:07:20. > :07:24.fantastical animals, like dragons brought up as pets. And crows

:07:25. > :07:31.trained to deliver messages around the land of Westeros. Now we can't

:07:32. > :07:37.compete with that in the land of reality, or can we? Mike Dilger

:07:38. > :07:41.thinks we can. I have come to this reed bed in

:07:42. > :07:47.Somerset to see one of Britain's most enchanting wildlife spectacles.

:07:48. > :07:51.A starling numeration. See that black cloud over there, it's not a

:07:52. > :07:56.cloud, but the most enormous flock of starlings that have come here to

:07:57. > :08:01.roost in the afternoon. They have been feeding in the surrounding

:08:02. > :08:05.fields of Somerset all day long. And they are here for two reasons, to

:08:06. > :08:11.avoid being eaten by predators like peregrines, it's a safety in numbers

:08:12. > :08:16.strategy. Look at this. And also, as well, they are joining the flock,

:08:17. > :08:21.trying to attract more birds to come in. Oh, my word, look at that, I'm

:08:22. > :08:32.surrounded by starlings. There are hundreds of thousands of birds right

:08:33. > :08:34.in front of me. Look at that! During the day, starlings and spread out

:08:35. > :08:39.over pasture land to forage for worms and grubs in the soil. They

:08:40. > :08:42.probed the ground open-mouthed with their sharp slender beaks. They

:08:43. > :08:48.clamp shut when they sensed something tasty. Recently, some of

:08:49. > :08:52.the starlings of major Matic changes in their feeding habits. And that

:08:53. > :09:00.means finding surprising locations to track down breakfast -- dramatic

:09:01. > :09:05.changes. Every winter, farmers bring their cattle in from the cold. A few

:09:06. > :09:09.years ago, to boost milk yields, local farmers began feeding their

:09:10. > :09:15.stock at high energy maize silage, which the cows thrive on. But they

:09:16. > :09:22.are not the only ones. Starlings are really clever birds, supreme

:09:23. > :09:26.opportunists. As soon as one bird finds a new feeding source, it will

:09:27. > :09:31.pass that information on to the rest of the flock. But for the local

:09:32. > :09:35.farmers, the starlings resourcefulness comes at a price.

:09:36. > :09:41.How many starlings do think coming into the bands? About 10,000 at a

:09:42. > :09:46.time. They read about half their body weight a day, 30 grams - 50

:09:47. > :09:52.grams, so your talk about half a tonne of food going. About ?150 a

:09:53. > :09:56.day. It's a fair bit of money. They use the same feeding techniques they

:09:57. > :10:00.would outside in the fields. Probing into the silage with their beaks

:10:01. > :10:06.wide open. Searching for a nutritious maize seed hidden inside.

:10:07. > :10:09.Starlings are an intrinsic part of the Somerset landscape. And farmers

:10:10. > :10:14.are finding ways of coping with their new taste for maize. The birds

:10:15. > :10:19.go back to roost and the best thing to do is to start feeding after

:10:20. > :10:23.4:30pm. But working around their schedule just isn't practical for

:10:24. > :10:28.all farmers. We have tried hanging ten is, bang is, bangers going off,

:10:29. > :10:33.starling noises on CDs, but they get used to that. We have a Harris hawk

:10:34. > :10:37.for some it doesn't really work. They are basically clever birds. It

:10:38. > :10:41.is great when you see them but I'd rather they would do it somewhere

:10:42. > :10:45.else. The farmers might be keen to see the back of these expensive

:10:46. > :10:50.winter visitors, but, as a bird obsessive, this is an opportunity

:10:51. > :10:54.too good to miss so I'm going to try and sneak into the barn and get

:10:55. > :11:01.right into the heart of a starling numeration. The birds scare quite

:11:02. > :11:05.easily but I have brought a hide along and I'm hoping that if I sit

:11:06. > :11:11.quietly for a while, they will realise I am no threat and will come

:11:12. > :11:17.back into feed. My legs are just going to sleep when my patience is

:11:18. > :11:21.rewarded. It's taken a while, but the first starlings are finally

:11:22. > :11:26.coming in. Coming down to feed. And before I know it, the whole flock

:11:27. > :11:33.moves inside. Birds are piling in now. This is great. Birds dropping

:11:34. > :11:39.in from all directions. Lining up on the bars on top of the cattle, and

:11:40. > :11:47.these guys about a cold night and they are really hungry. That is a

:11:48. > :12:00.lot of starlings. What a unique experience. They have just flashed

:12:01. > :12:04.as one. A massive blur of wings. It's not often that a truly great

:12:05. > :12:14.wildlife experience happens in doors. But I have to say, this will

:12:15. > :12:18.take some beating! Unbelievable. What David needs to do is line-up a

:12:19. > :12:22.load of hide and then charge bird-watchers to come in and that

:12:23. > :12:29.will pays for his silage. You're from that region. I've never seen

:12:30. > :12:34.before I'm so disappointed. You need to go there and pay up, perfect.

:12:35. > :12:38.Game Of Thrones is huge. It is the most downloaded television series

:12:39. > :12:44.ever. The books have sold 15 million copies and been translated into 40

:12:45. > :12:48.languages. The first episode of the latest series is such a big event

:12:49. > :12:51.it's being shown at the exactly the same time on both sides of the

:12:52. > :12:56.Atlantic just so no-one gets to see it before anyone else. That's

:12:57. > :13:01.unbelievable, isn't it? I can hear lots of people thinking we need to

:13:02. > :13:05.watch this. It's 2am in the UK. But what's it all about? Well, it's a

:13:06. > :13:07.bit like the entire past 29 years of EastEnders, with all the more

:13:08. > :13:11.believable storylines removed and everyone dressed up like a Hobbit.

:13:12. > :13:19.Here's our guide to Game Of Thrones in 60 seconds. There are seven

:13:20. > :13:24.squabbling medeival kingdoms all ruled from the Iron Throne. Which is

:13:25. > :13:30.occupied by an evil little King called Joffrey. Not Jeffrey. This is

:13:31. > :13:33.a fantasy programme. It's Joffrey. Everyone's at it with everyone else,

:13:34. > :13:36.including their own family. But the moment we really get to know a

:13:37. > :13:42.character they are promptly killed off. The bigger they are the harder

:13:43. > :13:46.they fall. Yes, he is a has-been. On the fringes of the action all

:13:47. > :13:51.dressed in black there's moody Jon Snow. No, not THAT Jon Snow! He's

:13:52. > :13:54.fighting to stop the evil northern hordes scaling the Wall but no-one's

:13:55. > :13:58.really paying any attention. Poor chap. That's because two women are

:13:59. > :14:05.marching on the throne. One has an army of eunuchs and three pet

:14:06. > :14:06.dragons. The other played by Maisie here is Arya, hell bent on avenging

:14:07. > :14:13.the death of her entire family APPLAUSE

:14:14. > :14:23.Was that all right? Fantastic. Up to speed? No need for

:14:24. > :14:27.the box set now. Spoilers. The pair who have been on it since the very

:14:28. > :14:33.beginning. You were very young, you are 13 when you started? 12. What

:14:34. > :14:39.was it like to enter that world and for that to be the majority of

:14:40. > :14:41.things you've done? It is just the best experience everything. There

:14:42. > :14:46.was animals on set everywhere and crazy things going on and I was just

:14:47. > :14:51.enjoying every moment of it and now it has become my life. I am

:14:52. > :14:55.thrilled. It started so small and it has grown year after year. We have

:14:56. > :14:59.had a chance to get used to. It is lovely that you have become close

:15:00. > :15:02.friends whilst working on Game of Thrones?

:15:03. > :15:07.LAUGHTER You have no choice. You are

:15:08. > :15:11.recognised on a worldwide level, aren't you? You are saying you are

:15:12. > :15:16.off to go to Paris shortly. How does it feel Sophie, when you are in

:15:17. > :15:23.premieres and you are thinking that person is dressed over me -- dressed

:15:24. > :15:29.as me over the? It is really weird. It is kind of surreal. I honestly, I

:15:30. > :15:33.don't think it has hit any of us how big it is or why people are putting

:15:34. > :15:36.ginger wigs on! LAUGHTER

:15:37. > :15:41.It is fun. It is an experience and I'm sure it will hit us later on in

:15:42. > :15:47.life when we're broke and out of a job. It is the most downloaded

:15:48. > :15:55.television series ever. Yeah, that's crazy. My brother contributes to the

:15:56. > :16:01.illegally downloaded one. Have you any idea why the programme works so

:16:02. > :16:04.well globally Because of the many different storylines, I feel. There

:16:05. > :16:09.is something for everyone. There is characters of all different ages.

:16:10. > :16:15.Different genders and there is so many strong female characters which

:16:16. > :16:17.is what a lot of shows lack and it is fantastic that they've captured

:16:18. > :16:21.that. Saying there is something in it for

:16:22. > :16:25.everybody. The first two seasons, they are 18 certificate, aren't

:16:26. > :16:31.they? Well, maybe not everyone. It is quite graphic, some of it and

:16:32. > :16:34.there is strong language and some explicit scenes in it. How do you

:16:35. > :16:39.feel Maisie, sitting there at home watching it with your parents in

:16:40. > :16:46.Somerset? It is so embarrassing! I don't know, when we were at the

:16:47. > :16:50.script read throughs, we giggled to ourselves when they read the nude

:16:51. > :16:55.scenes and stuff. Sitting and watching it I go and make myself a

:16:56. > :17:00.sandwich or something! You go and put the kettle on.

:17:01. > :17:04.Exactly. Sophie, your parents were on set when you were filming an

:17:05. > :17:07.adult scene. How was that? That was the day that my dad decided it would

:17:08. > :17:12.be a great idea to turn-up and it was a fairly adult scene. So it was

:17:13. > :17:17.kind of awkward for the producer sitting between both my parents like

:17:18. > :17:21.so. But it is fine, they are used to it now. They know what I'm in for, I

:17:22. > :17:25.guess. And what is it like for you to be

:17:26. > :17:29.British actresses talking in Britain and you are off to France after this

:17:30. > :17:35.and you are over in America doing that as well? It is so lovely to do

:17:36. > :17:39.things in the UK. I feel like, in the UK it took a while to catch up

:17:40. > :17:42.to the scale of it in other countries and in America it was

:17:43. > :17:45.massive for a long time and now it is really starting to get big here

:17:46. > :17:48.and I feel like we're getting recognised more and more on the

:17:49. > :17:51.streets which is really, really exciting, but strange as well to be

:17:52. > :17:54.like in your hometown and all of a sudden there is people watching you,

:17:55. > :18:07.it is cool. As young actors you are having this

:18:08. > :18:13.great opportunity working with British actors like McKenzie Crook.

:18:14. > :18:17.You must learn a lot. It is great to be working with these people so

:18:18. > :18:20.early on as well and both of us are just learning every single day and

:18:21. > :18:24.are given great opportunities to work with some really experienced

:18:25. > :18:29.and fantastic actors in this business. Yeah, that's it, we are

:18:30. > :18:35.grateful for that in itself. Sophie, is the landscape shot in Croatia?

:18:36. > :18:41.That's where I shoot. Maisie, you are closer to home? Yeah, I shoot

:18:42. > :18:44.the majority of my stuff in Belfast, Northern Ireland which is fantastic

:18:45. > :18:52.and it is so lovely to work there, but there is so much rain! I'm in

:18:53. > :18:56.the rain with muddy boots on and muddy trousers and stuff. It has its

:18:57. > :19:02.pros and cons, but the fortunate thing when the sun does come out in

:19:03. > :19:07.Belfast, it is the most beautiful place. It is so green and when it is

:19:08. > :19:14.sunny, it does make up for it. There is fantastic locations. I can hear

:19:15. > :19:17.the hear hear from Northern Ireland. A lot of scenes are filmed in

:19:18. > :19:24.Northern Ireland in conditions of secrecy as we found out.

:19:25. > :19:28.Welcome to Northern Ireland main production and base for Game of

:19:29. > :19:32.Thrones. In the docks behind me the Titanic was painted and fitted. Now

:19:33. > :19:38.it is the main studios where the sets are built. This is where they

:19:39. > :19:42.film the interiors, utilising a workforce of over 800. It had a

:19:43. > :19:46.massive impact on the local economy. People and places are using their

:19:47. > :19:54.connections through the drama for making a few pound by setting-up

:19:55. > :19:59.their own spin off businesses. This isn't an ordinary minibus, it

:20:00. > :20:03.is a special Game of Thrones minibus offering trips around the major

:20:04. > :20:09.locations used in the series. We ran a day tour to the Giant?s

:20:10. > :20:13.Causeway. More and more of the people who were on the tour were

:20:14. > :20:16.asking, is the Game of Thrones filmed here? Will you take us to see

:20:17. > :20:19.the locations. The more that people asked this, the more we thought

:20:20. > :20:24.there is an opportunity there for us. We have worked on all four

:20:25. > :20:28.series of Game of Thrones so we have the real inside into all the

:20:29. > :20:30.different locations and places that everybody who is from Northern

:20:31. > :20:33.Ireland knows is there, but you would never imagine that they would

:20:34. > :20:38.translate beautifully on to the screen.

:20:39. > :20:42.We have never looked back since. Everybody is queuing up to take the

:20:43. > :20:47.Game of Thrones tours now. The bus's routes takes passengers to some of

:20:48. > :20:53.the most recognisable locations used by Game of Thrones. Some of the

:20:54. > :21:08.locations have gone so far to add extra incentives. This is the Castle

:21:09. > :21:16.Ward Estate in County Down. What if people said you are just

:21:17. > :21:20.cashing in on Game of Thrones? By pure chance it was the obvious path

:21:21. > :21:26.to take to theme it medieval style. We had folks from Alaska, from

:21:27. > :21:31.Australia and Asia and they saw they were doing archery as an activity.

:21:32. > :21:36.We have only modified what we have really done already and it is just

:21:37. > :21:40.adding a theme to the whole experience. And people love it? Of

:21:41. > :21:49.course they do. I'm loving it. Did you see the actors? Yeah, I have

:21:50. > :21:52.seen Sean Bean. Were they as good as I am? They weren't actually. It is

:21:53. > :21:56.not just the archery school that benefitted from their links to Game

:21:57. > :22:06.of Thrones from the local jewellers who make the crowns to the tailors

:22:07. > :22:13.who provide the cos costumes. Anyone who knows Game of Thrones knows it

:22:14. > :22:17.is all about hair. One local hairdresser combines her day job

:22:18. > :22:24.with styling hair for the show. How many people's hair do you style a

:22:25. > :22:28.day? Up to 300 a day. For war scenes, like battle scenes. That

:22:29. > :22:34.wind swept battle worn and washed look. Tell me how you achieve it? A

:22:35. > :22:40.lot of it is dirtied down for the battle scenes. When the helmet comes

:22:41. > :22:48.off we use a lot of product to dirty the roots and use products to make

:22:49. > :22:55.the ends look wispy and dry. Petroleum jelly and slap it in. You

:22:56. > :23:00.wouldn't have clients come in and say, "Could give me that Game of

:23:01. > :23:02.Thrones look? If they want to look dirty down, yeah.

:23:03. > :23:07.It is clear that Game of Thrones is having the same impact here in

:23:08. > :23:09.Northern Ireland as Lord of the Rings had. Unfortunately, I must

:23:10. > :23:22.take my leave now of these lands. We can't stop looking at our

:23:23. > :23:25.audience members. They have gone for it. Thank you for being here so

:23:26. > :23:30.much. Lots of you at home love a bit of

:23:31. > :23:36.weekend dressing up. We asked what you got up to at the

:23:37. > :23:42.weekend? This is Martin, a plumber during the week, but comes the

:23:43. > :23:48.weekend he loves to dress-up as a cowboy. This is Mark, a health and

:23:49. > :23:51.safety consultant who is a saxon archer.

:23:52. > :24:10.This is an IT consultant, but likes to dress up as a loveable robot.

:24:11. > :24:18.These are the wolves. But they have a Jack Russell and toy poodle.

:24:19. > :24:29.You can see the new series of Game of Thrones next Monday on Sky

:24:30. > :24:32.Atlantic. Your postcode may say more about you

:24:33. > :24:36.than you think. Postcodes are designed to help send our mail

:24:37. > :24:41.quickly and efficiently. They were introduced over a decade from it the

:24:42. > :24:45.1960s and now there are nearly two million postcodes in the country. We

:24:46. > :24:53.have heard of postcode lotteries. It seems it is a lottry which postcode

:24:54. > :25:02.we end up with. The postcode belongs to Bradford. Does it really matter?

:25:03. > :25:06.The residents here think it does. Well, when they are delivering

:25:07. > :25:12.parcels and you are not in, you have to go five miles to collect it from

:25:13. > :25:16.the Bradford depot instead of a mile. Don't think that's a big

:25:17. > :25:20.issue, what about this? What happened with this little fella?

:25:21. > :25:25.Well, when he was first-born, we came back home and the midwife was

:25:26. > :25:31.supposed to come the next day and nobody came. So I rang the Bradford

:25:32. > :25:36.midwives and they said no, it is Leeds that have to come. I rang

:25:37. > :25:41.Leeds and Leeds said no, it is Bradford. Well what about this? My

:25:42. > :25:50.friend Karen lives over there, 50 cards away and she pays ?250 for her

:25:51. > :25:54.car insurance, I pay ?420. She has a Leeds postcode, I have got a

:25:55. > :25:59.Bradford postcode. It is not fair. These people live in Pudsey which is

:26:00. > :26:02.part of Leeds. They pay council tax to Leeds City Council. Get their

:26:03. > :26:05.services such as bin collections from Leeds. But still have a

:26:06. > :26:11.Bradford postcode. Chris and Sally are in the same boat

:26:12. > :26:15.of around 350 households in the area. They live in Leeds, but have

:26:16. > :26:18.the Bradford postcode. They are con insed their Bradford postcode is

:26:19. > :26:22.responsible for not being able to sell their house.

:26:23. > :26:28.We had to put it down to something and it puts people off. Where do you

:26:29. > :26:35.think it will end up? We might have to market it with a Bradford estate

:26:36. > :26:39.agent. If they did, their ?120,000 valuation could drop by up to a

:26:40. > :26:44.quarter. Something they cannot afford to do. The National

:26:45. > :26:48.Association of Estate Agents said there can be a huge variation in

:26:49. > :26:52.values even in neighbouring areas, it is important to get local

:26:53. > :26:57.knowledge before you buy a property. As for car insurance, the average

:26:58. > :27:02.price in the Leeds postcode isn't the cheapest, but in the Bradford

:27:03. > :27:05.postcode, you have got to ring your insurer to see if they can give you

:27:06. > :27:11.a quote in the first place. The residents of this no-man's land

:27:12. > :27:16.on the Leeds Bradford border aren't an exception. Head down the M1 and

:27:17. > :27:21.there is more of the same. Kay and Tony live in the Borough of

:27:22. > :27:26.Richmond, but have a Hounslow postcode and that hits them in the

:27:27. > :27:30.pocket. It is all about being snobbish because you want to live in

:27:31. > :27:34.Richmond, not Hounslow because it sounds better? Not really. We have

:27:35. > :27:42.always lived here. I think younger people would think that, but my

:27:43. > :27:45.affinity has been to Richmond. What happened is you have been

:27:46. > :27:50.stigmatised by your postcode? Indeed. I found some companies would

:27:51. > :27:55.not quote for motor insurance because we have a Hounslow postcode

:27:56. > :27:59.as opposed to a Richmond postcode which the houses behind us have got.

:28:00. > :28:04.The residents in Richmond and in Leeds have campaigned for years and

:28:05. > :28:07.local MPs have tried to get their postcodes changed. The Association

:28:08. > :28:12.of British Insurers say that postcodes are just one of many

:28:13. > :28:15.factors used in insurance quotes. While Royal Mail says it is out of

:28:16. > :28:22.their control what other agencies use their postcodes for. You can see

:28:23. > :28:30.the Royal Mail's point of view, they probably imagined -- never imagined

:28:31. > :28:36.postcodes would carry such weight. I am off for at tea at SW 1 A. It is

:28:37. > :28:41.Buckingham Palace! I know how they feel. It happened to

:28:42. > :28:48.me! That's what happens. Thanks to our

:28:49. > :28:53.superfans for joining us and to Maisie Williams and Sophie Turner.

:28:54. > :28:58.Hopefully you will be back if you are not killed off. Fingers crossed,

:28:59. > :29:02.eh? Tomorrow we are here with Rob Brydon so we will see you at 7pm.

:29:03. > :29:06.Bye.