:00:08. > :00:28.Get out of my pub! Some people never change. Shall we just go to the
:00:29. > :00:47.chippy? Come on. Hello! Hello and welcome to Albert
:00:48. > :00:50.Square for a very special EastEnders One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt
:00:51. > :00:54.Baker. In 25 minutes, Dame Barbara Windsor will say a final farewell to
:00:55. > :01:02.this place as Peggy Mitchell takes her last breath. We did get an
:01:03. > :01:06.interview and we chatted all about her years on Albert Square. We will
:01:07. > :01:10.be reliving some classic Peggy moments. Here we are outside Beale's
:01:11. > :01:20.Plaice. I'm sure Ian Beale would agree she can be a feisty character.
:01:21. > :01:26.Of all the nerve? That looked painful! We have lots of stars from
:01:27. > :01:33.EastEnders here tonight. We have the launderette over here and look who
:01:34. > :01:39.it is! It is June Brown, AKA Dot. Hello, Dot. Dot and Peggy had a fair
:01:40. > :01:44.few fallings out. Look at this. Had you any idea what my fil has been
:01:45. > :01:48.through in the last few months and never mind Paul Ronnie lying there
:01:49. > :01:58.practically at death 's door. What have you got to say for yourself?!
:01:59. > :02:02.Don't worry, she could not see it! Look who is outside the cafe. It is
:02:03. > :02:06.Perry Fenwick. He will give us the scoop on what it is like to get all
:02:07. > :02:14.the Mitchells back together again. It is so bizarre to be here. It is.
:02:15. > :02:19.Get BTS macro in! And we have Lacey Turner outside the fruit and veg
:02:20. > :02:26.stall which is now run by your fiance. Yes! This is what we can't
:02:27. > :02:29.believe, these are actually real. You can actually eat it and it is
:02:30. > :02:36.fresh. I can't believe I have just done that! Also Kellie Bright is
:02:37. > :02:41.here. The current landlady. I have just eaten a real Apple, I cannot
:02:42. > :02:45.believe it is real! You have this baseball bat because apparently
:02:46. > :02:51.every landlady of the Queen Vic needs one?
:02:52. > :03:02.Another very happy EastEnders moment. Have you eaten that pair? It
:03:03. > :03:06.is not as good as the Apple. It has just gone down the wrong way
:03:07. > :03:12.slightly but never mind. That is better! On this square somebody or
:03:13. > :03:17.something reminds you of Peggy Mitchell. Do you remember that time
:03:18. > :03:25.when... All right! Thank you, fair enough! The time when Peggy had a
:03:26. > :03:30.water pistol and she was quite in everybody in Albert Square. Very
:03:31. > :03:35.funny. Looking a bit sheepish at the end there. When we were invited to
:03:36. > :03:38.the Mitchells' house for a cup of tea and to catch up with Dame
:03:39. > :03:45.Barbara, we wanted to know everything but we started right at
:03:46. > :03:48.the beginning. Hello, Dame Barbara, thank you for
:03:49. > :03:52.agreeing for a chat with us. Let's take us back to 1994 to the very
:03:53. > :03:58.beginning. You said this was a role which changed your life? It was
:03:59. > :04:08.difficult. I wanted to play my age but every time I went up for a job
:04:09. > :04:14.they always talked about the Carrie On films. They said why has nobody
:04:15. > :04:19.had Barbara Windsor? She is so full of the East End and she looks like a
:04:20. > :04:26.little matriarchal figure. How did you feel with that in mind, going
:04:27. > :04:30.for the audition with Peggy? All I could think was please don't let
:04:31. > :04:37.there be a Carry On the night before. I just went along and did my
:04:38. > :04:41.best. There were three ladies there. One of them said, I liked your
:04:42. > :04:47.vulnerability. I said, yes, I am very good at vulnerability. Such a
:04:48. > :04:54.silly thing! I didn't know what the bloody word meant!
:04:55. > :05:01.I can't take my eyes off you, can I? Like a kid you are. Yeah, yeah. Are
:05:02. > :05:07.you telling the truth? Why would I lie about a thing like that? You
:05:08. > :05:12.weren't in a fight or anything? I worry about you, that is all.
:05:13. > :05:17.How much input did you have into how Peggy turned out and how she was
:05:18. > :05:28.loved by the audience? She was just right for me. I knew this woman.
:05:29. > :05:31.She's the kind of woman who can be very sweet and very nice, and very
:05:32. > :05:35.tough. There was a lot of toughness in my mother. Everything had to be
:05:36. > :05:39.done the right way. The softness with her sons was based on the Cray
:05:40. > :05:51.boys. My mother would have hated that character. Why'd you say that
:05:52. > :05:56.will stop she was a cockney snob. She had elocution lessons. Peggy has
:05:57. > :06:01.been involved in some major storylines, obviously the breast
:06:02. > :06:09.cancer and dealing with Phil's alcoholism. That was awful for me to
:06:10. > :06:14.do, the storyline about aids because I have so many gay friends.
:06:15. > :06:18.You don't get aids from sitting at home with your family. Syringes in
:06:19. > :06:24.the playground, druggies in our pub. It is all part of the same thing. If
:06:25. > :06:31.you swim in the sewer then you catch something and Mark has! You don't
:06:32. > :06:37.know what you are talking about. That was not good. Someone gave me a
:06:38. > :06:44.hard time in Blackpool. I never thought you were like that! I went
:06:45. > :06:48.through a bad time with that. They gave it to someone else and they
:06:49. > :06:59.refused to do it so they gave it to me. I did a lot of PAs in gay clubs
:07:00. > :07:07.to get them on side. How did it feel the Thursday when he stepped behind
:07:08. > :07:12.the bar? I loved it. I have got it! Looks like it, ma'am.
:07:13. > :07:17.Nice one. My name is going above that door in the biggest gold
:07:18. > :07:24.lettering I can find. I felt like I was Shirley Bassey
:07:25. > :07:30.almost! I loved it. I took it very seriously. I felt proud, I felt like
:07:31. > :07:35.I was in charge. And we will have more chat with Dame
:07:36. > :07:44.Barbara later on. We had quite a few cups of tea. Look at us outside
:07:45. > :07:50.Cindi's cafe. This is the sign that Barbara was talking about which went
:07:51. > :07:57.above the pub. That will be worth a fortune. The prop store here is
:07:58. > :08:01.incredible. You have seen a lot of matriarch 's on the square come and
:08:02. > :08:08.go, Pam, Pauline and now Peggy. How does that make you feel and how do
:08:09. > :08:15.you feel that Peggy decided to leave in the end? Don't forget Lou Beale
:08:16. > :08:19.was the first. Yes, she was. I knew she wanted to leave. We were having
:08:20. > :08:34.one of our chats which we often did because we were very
:08:35. > :08:38.good friends. She said she was tired of coming into the square and not
:08:39. > :08:40.having a base, nowhere to go. She did not belong anywhere because
:08:41. > :08:44.Peggy was the pub. If she was not Inbee Park with a get out of my pub,
:08:45. > :08:47.where else would she be? -- if she was not in the pub. I thought it was
:08:48. > :08:53.good for her to have a very good storyline to go out on. Perry, where
:08:54. > :08:58.you wear it -- were you expecting it? I was on a break at the time. If
:08:59. > :09:03.you are not here, you do not hear it first hand. I was driving along and
:09:04. > :09:10.I heard it on the radio. It was something like that or somebody text
:09:11. > :09:15.did me and I was like, that is just something and then it panned out
:09:16. > :09:20.that it was true. I did not see it coming at all. She has come back a
:09:21. > :09:25.couple of times, hasn't she? When you have the scripts and there is a
:09:26. > :09:29.big episode like this tonight coming up, do you have the entire script or
:09:30. > :09:36.just the scenes that you are in so they can keep secret what happens
:09:37. > :09:40.until the end? Not in this case. Sometimes they do if there is a big
:09:41. > :09:46.reveal, sometimes scenes are censored like when we did the live
:09:47. > :09:50.one. That is a bit unnerving, especially you are suspect for
:09:51. > :09:58.something! You were involved in Peggy's trip around London? What was
:09:59. > :10:05.the feeling like during those scenes? Was a celebratory? Did
:10:06. > :10:12.Barbara turn up with cakes? It was terrifying for me, to be honest with
:10:13. > :10:20.you! They gave me a 170 grand Rolls-Royce to drive around this
:10:21. > :10:26.little square. I was like Parker with Dame Penelope in the back. What
:10:27. > :10:32.if I pranged the motor with a game in the back? I could not wait to get
:10:33. > :10:38.out of it! You are part of the Mitchell plan and we saw Grant
:10:39. > :10:46.comeback at the end of last night's said which will be a big shock to
:10:47. > :10:57.people. Didn't he looked like Phil? Yes, they look like brothers! It was
:10:58. > :11:02.good to see him back. He is so good. -- she is so good in this. That is
:11:03. > :11:07.what I am impressed with, her frailty. You can read everything in
:11:08. > :11:18.her face, Herod soars to, the way she has two gather herself up. And
:11:19. > :11:23.the relief when they have gone. I understand the storyline completely
:11:24. > :11:29.that she does not want to go into this old, sad woman. What will
:11:30. > :11:36.happen to her head? It might affect her personality and how she behaves.
:11:37. > :11:40.And it is terminal. So, I know it is against my religion to say that, but
:11:41. > :11:50.I think I quite understand why she would want to do what she does. Yes,
:11:51. > :12:00.even in the promos, she really looks... It is brilliant. As June
:12:01. > :12:05.touches on, Peggy's death tonight is because she is losing her battle
:12:06. > :12:10.with breast cancer. But away from the sites, many can and do win their
:12:11. > :12:16.fight against the diagnosis and many have a new lease of life.
:12:17. > :12:19.When life throws you a curved ball, you have to make the best of it.
:12:20. > :12:25.This is the last thing I thought I would be doing, leading a pig!
:12:26. > :12:32.Breast cancer shown me that there is a big wide world out there, and I
:12:33. > :12:35.want to see the most of it. With programmes like EastEnders, it is
:12:36. > :12:41.portrayed like real life so people will get ill, but the end result is
:12:42. > :12:45.quite often negative rather than a positive result like myself. We have
:12:46. > :12:51.always talked about making a life changing move to the Highlands of
:12:52. > :12:56.Scotland,, but you go on holiday, you enjoy it and come back and it
:12:57. > :13:01.never happens. Once I had the treatment, that was a bit of a
:13:02. > :13:07.wake-up call really. We have had this dream and we need to do it now.
:13:08. > :13:14.Leaving Lancashire to come and live in Scotland was a huge decision.
:13:15. > :13:16.Having cancer made us do that. It made us act quickly and make the
:13:17. > :13:28.most of the time we have got. We're almost 42 years mag. There
:13:29. > :13:33.can't be that many couples who have both had breast cancer. It dawned on
:13:34. > :13:40.us and it must be pretty unusual. We got a phone call from Breast Cancer
:13:41. > :13:48.Care elder fashion show and asked if we would take part. Ian and his
:13:49. > :13:51.wife, may! Is not something I would ever have thought of doing. On the
:13:52. > :13:54.day of the show, the atmosphere built and built and by the time we
:13:55. > :14:00.got to the evening, the adrenaline was just pumping so high. Seeing May
:14:01. > :14:05.and myself striding down the catwalk is not normally something I would
:14:06. > :14:09.have done at all. We have had no offers of modelling contracts come
:14:10. > :14:14.flooding in! Our little granddaughter has helped Ulster it
:14:15. > :14:18.as well. She kept us and kept us busy -- helped us keep going as
:14:19. > :14:24.well. She helped us pick up the threads of our life and it on with
:14:25. > :14:28.it. I wanted to go and travel. I have always loved travelling. I
:14:29. > :14:31.always wanted to go more exotic and further afield but I never had
:14:32. > :14:36.thought about jumping out of a plane or diving with great white sharks.
:14:37. > :14:40.But they seemed like a really good idea after cancer treatment. When I
:14:41. > :14:45.told people I was going to jump out of a plane, they just thought I was
:14:46. > :14:51.mad. But I was living my dreams instead of just talking about them.
:14:52. > :14:57.When I went to book my skydive, she was like, "There's two options,
:14:58. > :15:05.12,000 feet or 15,000 feet". I was like, "OK!" Are not that great with
:15:06. > :15:08.heights. Feeling good, confident? I requested an instructor that could
:15:09. > :15:12.do with really nervous people and told him, "I've got through cancer
:15:13. > :15:16.so I can get through anything!" I've learned not to be scared. I'm
:15:17. > :15:26.probably more confident than I thought I was. Going on the catwalk
:15:27. > :15:30.helped me tremendously. Cancer gave us all the shahs. It made us sit up
:15:31. > :15:37.and think, we don't know what time we've got, let's just do it. And a
:15:38. > :15:42.big thank you to Jane, Ian, May and Clare and for sharing those stories.
:15:43. > :15:46.And talking sharing stories we are with Sarah Phelps, who is the writer
:15:47. > :15:51.of tonight's episode. Less than ten minutes to go before your story
:15:52. > :15:56.starts. How are you feeling right now? I'm feeling quite emotional,
:15:57. > :16:00.actually, quite emotional and hoping that everyone enjoys it, that it
:16:01. > :16:05.goes really well and people don't hate it and hate what I've done.
:16:06. > :16:09.Yes, emotional, I think is the best way to say it. Give us the lowdown
:16:10. > :16:13.because when Dame Barbara said she had and a dark -- an idea about how
:16:14. > :16:16.she would like to leave, what happened from there and how did the
:16:17. > :16:22.process bring you into it and how much input did she have in the final
:16:23. > :16:26.script for tonight? The process of being me into it was Dominick, the
:16:27. > :16:31.executive producer rang up and said, "You are coming to write an
:16:32. > :16:34.episode". I said I was a bit busy and he said, "You don't know what
:16:35. > :16:39.busy is, you are just sitting there, you are doing it". He sent me the
:16:40. > :16:43.story and obviously, I had to do it, no question. I looked at it and I
:16:44. > :16:47.thought, "I want to do it like this, I know where we have to go but I
:16:48. > :16:56.want to get there like this". We went round to see Barbara and Scott
:16:57. > :17:00.and I said, "This is how I would like to her and when I had finished
:17:01. > :17:04.talking, which took quite a long time, when I looked up, she had
:17:05. > :17:09.tears in her eyes and I knew it had kind of worked. I had such a clear
:17:10. > :17:13.idea of what I wanted to be in it and what I wanted to see and what I
:17:14. > :17:17.wanted for the character of Peggy Mitchell but also, what I wanted for
:17:18. > :17:22.Barbara. I was overjoyed that she really liked it and wanted to go
:17:23. > :17:25.with it. Obviously, you are writing her final words as well. Did they
:17:26. > :17:30.come to you quickly? Did you know what they were? How many drafts did
:17:31. > :17:34.you do? Were you whipping them up and throwing it away? Almost
:17:35. > :17:40.immediately, I knew what I wanted. It was almost working backwards from
:17:41. > :17:45.that moment. -- ripping them up. As soon as I read the story document, I
:17:46. > :17:49.thought, "I know what I want, I'm going to do that". Everyone now is
:17:50. > :17:53.trying to get the final words we hear from Peggy but earlier, you
:17:54. > :17:57.gave a little clue, something significant happens by this tree.
:17:58. > :18:01.There is a key moment that happens kind of in this area. Not only are
:18:02. > :18:05.you thinking about the character of Peggy Mitchell but all the other
:18:06. > :18:10.characters around her, and you want to honour them as well. I wanted to
:18:11. > :18:12.bring in other characters she has interacted with and had very long,
:18:13. > :18:16.tangled and sometimes quite difficult histories with, and just
:18:17. > :18:26.bringing them into that moment as well. Yeah, it is quite momentous
:18:27. > :18:30.that we are standing here, in the shadow of the Mitchell residents.
:18:31. > :18:33.Yes, but everywhere you stand on this lot, something has happened.
:18:34. > :18:39.There's always something that has happened. You think," that happened
:18:40. > :18:46.over there!" Every door and window has a story. It is real but isn't
:18:47. > :18:50.it? Thank you for joining us. We look forward to the episode. I'm
:18:51. > :18:55.sure you are looking forward to it. I'm going for Zampa Dzagoev! Good
:18:56. > :18:59.idea, well, in about eight minutes, Peggy Mitchell will be saying her
:19:00. > :19:01.final goodbye. It's time to the second part of our scooted into view
:19:02. > :19:06.and here, Barbara Windsor reveals what it was like during her
:19:07. > :19:11.emotional exit. Here we are now, 22 years on the
:19:12. > :19:15.square and it is the end. When they burned me, I thought it was, when
:19:16. > :19:27.they burnt up the Queen Vic. You haven't got the nerve! You haven't!
:19:28. > :19:31.I was going, "My Vic, my Vic! " But they decided to save me. I thought
:19:32. > :19:36.that was the end but then it wasn't and then I started to come back and
:19:37. > :19:40.do the odd ones. I thought I had to say goodbye to her. It's no secret
:19:41. > :19:42.that tonight is the last time we will see Peggy Mitchell on the
:19:43. > :19:47.square which will be really sad for yourself and all the viewers
:19:48. > :19:50.watching. But how did the conversation come about with
:19:51. > :19:54.Dominick, the boss of East Enders? I heard on the grapevine that he might
:19:55. > :20:00.be leaving and I thought, "Well, he will want a good storyline", so what
:20:01. > :20:05.about if I go? I said I could get grant back, if he killed me off and
:20:06. > :20:12.he could have a good going away storyline. Add you spoken to Grant
:20:13. > :20:17.before? No, but I'm very friendly with Ross and I knew. We bumped into
:20:18. > :20:24.each other in Majorca, funnily enough and he said he would give it
:20:25. > :20:31.a go. Phil? Ma'am? Guess my invite got lost in the post. And he loved
:20:32. > :20:34.it. We had a wonderful time. And a treat for the audience. And he was
:20:35. > :20:39.nervous, what was great, I was nervous and he was nervous but Steve
:20:40. > :20:42.was not, be staunch old warrior. I got this funny feeling when I did
:20:43. > :20:47.the scene with them either side of me,... I'm getting a bit tearful, I
:20:48. > :20:54.mustn't, there you go. It was lovely! What was it like when they
:20:55. > :20:57.finally said "Cut"? You have two hold everything in. Your stomach,
:20:58. > :21:05.your bottom, everything, so you don't go... Like that! It is not a
:21:06. > :21:10.nice picture, I know, but you just think, your stomach is turning over
:21:11. > :21:15.and churning. It is turning now, talking about it. Well, people are
:21:16. > :21:19.going to be absolutely heartbroken tonight. No, because the show is
:21:20. > :21:24.good and it still goes on and Phil is still there. But for how long,
:21:25. > :21:29.the way he is carrying on with the drinking? It is awful, isn't it? I
:21:30. > :21:38.think Ross, they could tempt him back again. You can, obviously. "Go
:21:39. > :21:42.On, get yourself back there", because he enjoyed it and we had
:21:43. > :21:49.such fun, such a laugh, we really did. Would you ever come back? As a
:21:50. > :21:55.ghost? Already! It has started already! I have not even gone! I
:21:56. > :22:02.shall come flying back. If you could write Peggy's epitaph... Oh, gosh.
:22:03. > :22:07.What would you put? That she was a good bird, a good bird, a good,
:22:08. > :22:19.kind, strong bird. Do the line one more time. Of course. Get out of my
:22:20. > :22:27.part! -- pub. My mother would rather it has been in a posh voice. That it
:22:28. > :22:33.wasn't. -- but it wasn't. APPLAUSE And her laugh is tremendous. That
:22:34. > :22:36.was hilarious, Perry Dan Rowe because he thought she was stood
:22:37. > :22:41.behind him! We have set up the servers outside the spur job of
:22:42. > :22:45.Peggy, the Queen Vic. Everyone has a drink apart from us. They are
:22:46. > :22:48.waiting for us to come off air. We have been joined by Lacey Turner and
:22:49. > :22:52.Kellie Bright. Thank you for joining us. Lacey, you had a huge storyline
:22:53. > :22:58.with Dame Barbara because in the end, you killed Archie. How was it
:22:59. > :23:00.to act those scenes with her because they were really intense and you
:23:01. > :23:06.must have been onset quite a lot together around that time? Yes, it
:23:07. > :23:09.was quite a surprise because it was during the first live episode. I had
:23:10. > :23:14.no idea it was happening until half an hour before and I don't think
:23:15. > :23:18.anyone else did. But it was really, it was quite a shock at the time and
:23:19. > :23:22.then it came so quickly after that we filmed all of that stuff. It was
:23:23. > :23:29.great and I love working with Barbara, she's such a legend, and it
:23:30. > :23:35.is just you know, she is just fantastic. She gives so much and it
:23:36. > :23:38.is just easy to back. We have seen you quietly burying the hatchet with
:23:39. > :23:44.her recently but do you prefer those quiet seems all the more shouting
:23:45. > :23:49.and screaming ones with her? -- quiet scenes. It is always nice to
:23:50. > :23:54.have a row... There's history there! She does have a good row so that is
:23:55. > :23:59.always good but it was lovely, I had one scene with Barbara before she
:24:00. > :24:02.left and it was just lovely, it was a really heartfelt scene. I really
:24:03. > :24:09.enjoyed it. I was really happy that I got to say a final goodbye to
:24:10. > :24:14.Peggy. Kellie, you only recently did your first scenes with Peggy. In the
:24:15. > :24:20.final episode, the one that goes out the night. No spoilers! I won't say.
:24:21. > :24:25.How does that feel because it's your name above the door now and things
:24:26. > :24:29.have switched over? Was it lovely? She was so... She has been so
:24:30. > :24:33.supportive, I will say, of me and Danny White from the beginning, when
:24:34. > :24:38.we joined, and particularly for me, she has always been really warm and
:24:39. > :24:43.what struck me, working with her, she is professional to her core. But
:24:44. > :24:49.she is the ultimate leading lady. It is something you don't get much any
:24:50. > :24:54.more. She really, it makes everybody onset feel as important as each
:24:55. > :25:01.other. She has time for everybody. And just, honestly, I loved my scene
:25:02. > :25:05.with her. I loved it. I felt very lucky to be part of it and as soon
:25:06. > :25:13.as I read the script, I text Dominick and said, "I'm so excited
:25:14. > :25:17.about this! Thank you so much! ". Perry, as they mature, this place is
:25:18. > :25:25.not going to be the same. No, it's not! It will be very strange. Shall
:25:26. > :25:29.we have a drink? She's done 1662 episodes over 22 years we are going
:25:30. > :25:35.to raise a glass, and here is Tracey, the barmaid. To the landlady
:25:36. > :25:40.of the Queen Vic, the best ma'am in Walford and probably the best pub
:25:41. > :25:45.landlady of all time, to Peggy! -- the best mummy. And we will leave
:25:46. > :25:48.you with Dame Barbara Windsor. Dear viewers, thank you so much for
:25:49. > :25:54.having Peggy Mitchell in your living rooms for the last 22 years. And
:25:55. > :25:55.now, for the very last time, I would like to