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:00:10. > :00:12.On The Review Show tonight: The return of Rebus. Ian Rankin

:00:12. > :00:18.brings his whisky-swilling, vinyl- spinning detective back from

:00:18. > :00:22.retirement. But is there still life in the old curmudgeon?

:00:22. > :00:32.The Master. It looks like director Paul Thomas Anderson's take on

:00:32. > :00:34.

:00:34. > :00:40.Scientology. A must-see or just cult viewing? I am a writer, a

:00:40. > :00:43.theoretical philosopher, but, above all, I am a man, just like you.

:00:43. > :00:47.Death in all its manifestations in a remarkable exhibition at Wellcome

:00:47. > :00:57.Collection. And Full English. Has Channel 4 found Britain's answer to

:00:57. > :01:02.

:01:02. > :01:04.Family Guy? This is my chance to On the panel tonight are the writer

:01:04. > :01:08.and critic Hannah McGill, the novelist Alex Preston, and the art

:01:08. > :01:10.historian James Fox. Like Sir Arthur Conan Doyle before him,

:01:10. > :01:15.Britain's most successful living crime writer Ian Rankin has brought

:01:15. > :01:19.his most popular character back. John Rebus wasn't exactly dead, but

:01:19. > :01:22.he is certainly out of cold storage for Rankin's 28th work of fiction.

:01:22. > :01:25.Though, as he told Alan Yentob in last week's Imagine, he only knew

:01:25. > :01:35.that the new book would feature Rebus when he found himself typing

:01:35. > :01:41.his name on page two. Over the previous 18 books of the

:01:41. > :01:46.series, Ian Rankin aged his leading man in real time, following John

:01:46. > :01:51.Rebus out of retirement. In Standing In Another Man's Grave, he

:01:51. > :01:59.has joined the Cold Case unit. The hero of his last two books, Malcolm

:02:00. > :02:09.Fox, pops up here, too, and takes a dim view of Rebus's return and his

:02:10. > :02:16.

:02:16. > :02:21.effect on his former partner, She picked up the coffee. John

:02:21. > :02:26.Rebus was the loosest of cannons. No constabulary had room for that

:02:26. > :02:32.any more. He warned her that Rebus's proximity might damage his

:02:32. > :02:40.chances of promotion. The action takes us north of the capital. The

:02:40. > :02:43.furthest he's been from an Edinburgh pub. Hints of what

:02:43. > :02:49.political sentiment are sewn into the story as Rebus journeys north.

:02:49. > :02:54.He reflects on Scotland and its future. He remembered Siobhan

:02:54. > :03:02.Clarke's words. It's an odd little country hard to fathom. She accused

:03:02. > :03:08.of coming over all defensive. In fact, he had agreed with her. A

:03:08. > :03:12.nation of 5 million cowered together. Clinging to the notions

:03:12. > :03:16.of community and shared history. Changes to the leader retirement

:03:16. > :03:21.age of mean that Rebus could have a new lease of life in the force.

:03:21. > :03:27.reason he retired is that in real time he would be 60. Now he's able

:03:27. > :03:34.to work until he is 67. There is potential for seven more years of

:03:34. > :03:39.Rebus books. Ian Rankin says he would only revive Rebus's career

:03:39. > :03:46.only if there was something serious to say. I'll be hanging on his

:03:46. > :03:53.every word? We have some very big Rebus fans. But the possibility of

:03:53. > :03:59.seven more years of Rebus. Was it a risk to bring him back? I found it

:03:59. > :04:04.fascinating. Unlike the rest of the country, I had never read a Ian

:04:04. > :04:11.Rankin novel and I spent the last two weeks immersing myself in

:04:11. > :04:18.Markham Fox and Rebus. Internal affairs? Rebus doesn't play by the

:04:18. > :04:22.rules and Malcolm Fox is the rules. I thought that Rebus is a fantastic

:04:22. > :04:26.character like Raymond Chandler. A hard-boiled detective.

:04:26. > :04:31.Unfortunately, this novel did not work for me in the way some of his

:04:31. > :04:35.earlier ones did. Even the first one, noughts and crosses, I thought

:04:35. > :04:41.they were incredibly well constructed. Fiercely groping. This

:04:41. > :04:46.one, in the documentary he describes this novel is a bit

:04:46. > :04:52.random and not interesting. I'm afraid that's how I felt about it.

:04:52. > :04:57.Is that how you found it? I read the back of the book which was

:04:57. > :05:02.gushing. Some body described him as a mystery writer of. But it's not

:05:02. > :05:06.really a mystery novel. I like that about it. For me, it was very

:05:06. > :05:11.evocative of what I imagine the real police work to be like. Plod,

:05:11. > :05:17.plod, plod, go down a blind alley, have a suspicion, it's all very

:05:18. > :05:23.nasty. There's not a lot of glamourous possibilities. It's very

:05:23. > :05:29.fitting to the character that Rebus is, someone quite depressed. He

:05:29. > :05:35.basically does not like life. is different is that a crime does

:05:35. > :05:39.not appear early. You feel that Ian Rankin is getting back into the

:05:39. > :05:44.Rebus groove again. It seemed to be more of a character a novel about

:05:44. > :05:49.Rebus, this is how he has changed. Rather than the crime of being the

:05:49. > :05:53.most important thing. I'd only ever seen Rebus on television a day

:05:53. > :06:00.spent most of the book trying to get Ken Stott out of my head. One

:06:00. > :06:05.thing which surprised me was how slow the novel was. It wasn't until

:06:05. > :06:10.page 215 when the crime gets discovered. For a crime thriller,

:06:10. > :06:20.there wasn't much crime and there wasn't there but role, either.

:06:20. > :06:26.of the things I picked up was the crime is so minor. Minor to the

:06:26. > :06:34.structure. A terrible crime. The antagonist, the greater villain, we

:06:34. > :06:41.won't reveal, is almost inconsequential. Ian said he did

:06:41. > :06:44.not decide who the villain was until the end. Page 273. Rebus is

:06:44. > :06:48.so deeply ingrained with the underworld of Edinburgh, all the

:06:48. > :06:55.real villains are his mates. That's fascinating and I love that. What

:06:55. > :07:00.is interesting about the way that he writes Rebus now is that it is

:07:00. > :07:08.like a method acting of. I always picture Ian up rather than Ken

:07:08. > :07:14.Stott. The tension in the book is that what he does in the previous

:07:14. > :07:18.two novels is set up his new hero, Mark, Fox, and then we have Rebus

:07:19. > :07:24.back and you think, Malcolm Fox, I don't like him. Maybe he did not

:07:24. > :07:30.like writing him -- Malcolm Fox. One thing which is charming about

:07:30. > :07:40.him is that Rebus has these little things he likes, vinyl records, and

:07:40. > :07:40.

:07:40. > :07:44.correct people's grammar. The other thing in this book is, he is the

:07:44. > :07:49.hard-boiled detective, but, actually, he puts social media into

:07:49. > :07:55.it is a clever way. It's all about profiling and using a mobile phone

:07:55. > :07:59.to show part of the crime scene. I think he worked on that very hard.

:07:59. > :08:04.So often with novelists have a certain age, taking on the internet,

:08:04. > :08:10.it's like William Hague wearing a baseball cap. Here, it is

:08:10. > :08:16.incredibly well handled. Ian Rankin is very good on it Twitter. Showing

:08:16. > :08:22.the way the mobile phone, and having a camera with you, you can

:08:22. > :08:25.have it. It's changed our lives. And how much young people used to

:08:25. > :08:34.go to, and the idea of the older man getting into this youngsters

:08:35. > :08:44.world force of the young woman, she reminded me of the new cue in Sky

:08:45. > :08:49.

:08:49. > :08:53.He travels through Scotland. He is saying something about Scotland.

:08:53. > :08:57.One of the great characters in the novel is the motorway running

:08:57. > :09:06.through Scotland and it's a way of thinking through ideas of what

:09:06. > :09:11.Scotland is about to. It's a sinister road. The death of ready

:09:11. > :09:16.McRae, she always believed she would be buried under it. It's the

:09:16. > :09:20.anonymity of the motorway, and the loss of these women. It's like all

:09:20. > :09:25.the people who disappear. Young women who disappear. It's not a

:09:25. > :09:29.sentimental, at all. There is a deep feeling of sadness. You know,

:09:29. > :09:34.the idea the mobile phone is supposed to connect everybody but,

:09:34. > :09:39.in this case, it's another sign of loss. We are in the middle of

:09:39. > :09:47.November and Ian will have to start on the 2nd January with his new

:09:47. > :09:52.book. How does he do it? Watching a documentary, that was amazing.

:09:52. > :09:58.Living alongside him. The fact he can at knock this thing off in a

:09:58. > :10:06.couple of months. Strong dialogue, as well. Is it going to be another

:10:06. > :10:12.Rebus book? I wanted to stick at Rebus. I didn't realise he was so

:10:12. > :10:16.old. I wanted to go on longer. the time he reaches 67, he can go

:10:16. > :10:19.on to infinity. Get the book now for Christmas. With credits that

:10:19. > :10:21.include Boogie Nights, There Will Be Blood, and Magnolia, director

:10:21. > :10:25.Paul Thomas Anderson has never shied away from working at

:10:25. > :10:27.emotional or historical frontiers. With the release of his sixth

:10:27. > :10:30.feature film, starring Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Joaquin Pheonix,

:10:30. > :10:40.he now shifts his attention to the emerging spiritual factions of

:10:40. > :10:42.

:10:42. > :10:49.The Master is set in the wake of World War II and follows Freddy

:10:49. > :10:54.Quell, unable officer transition in from the military to civilian life.

:10:54. > :10:59.Played by Joaquin Phoenix, he is trapped in a storm of his own a

:10:59. > :11:02.volatile emotions and dogged by alcoholism. One day, he regains

:11:02. > :11:07.consciousness in an unfamiliar boat. His life changes when he's

:11:07. > :11:17.introduced to Lancaster Dodd. a writer, a doctor, a nuclear

:11:17. > :11:18.

:11:18. > :11:21.physicist, a philosopher. Above all, I am a manner, just like you.

:11:21. > :11:25.the self-appointed leader of the spiritual movement called The Cause

:11:25. > :11:34.and claims to have discovered how mankind cannot rise beyond its base

:11:34. > :11:37.animal nature. Paul Thomas Anderson's research into this

:11:37. > :11:42.movement in the post-war era has clearly informed his script and

:11:42. > :11:46.there are parallels with the early history of Scientology. Likewise,

:11:46. > :11:52.the character of Lancaster Dodd appears to take evidence from its

:11:52. > :11:57.founder, L Ron Hubbard. Science, by definition, allows for more opinion.

:11:57. > :12:03.Otherwise it's the will of one man which is the basis of a cult. The

:12:03. > :12:07.he becomes a lieutenant to the movement, Freddy Quell, and takes

:12:07. > :12:14.criticism from inside his own family. He's making this up as he

:12:14. > :12:19.goes along. You can't see that? makes his post or aspiration and

:12:19. > :12:29.post-traumatic stress with a plausible alternative religion. But

:12:29. > :12:30.

:12:30. > :12:35.is the master likely to wow the It's hard to talk about this film

:12:35. > :12:40.without centring on Joaquin Phoenix at's incredibly physical

:12:40. > :12:45.performance and also Philip Seymour Hoffman, a dominant figure. Had you

:12:45. > :12:49.any idea what you're watching? was extremely divided about this

:12:49. > :12:54.film having seen it because it was very beautiful and the performances,

:12:54. > :12:59.particularly Joaquin Phoenix, was staggering. The set pieces were

:12:59. > :13:04.mind-boggling but, on the other hand, I found it really boring. I

:13:04. > :13:09.wasn't very moved by it. I think the reason was, I don't think the

:13:09. > :13:13.film went anywhere. It had a brilliant first hour and other two

:13:13. > :13:18.protagonists met and the characters did not develop. Their relationship

:13:18. > :13:22.didn't develop. For me, it was a film I admired greatly but I didn't

:13:22. > :13:27.enjoy it. Did you get a sense you started to watch Joaquin Phoenix,

:13:27. > :13:34.who was so damaged, and he kept on being damaged, and also of his

:13:34. > :13:40.performance was so mesmeric, it is almost watching a car crash.

:13:40. > :13:47.disagree. There was a certain static us about it. At a conversion.

:13:47. > :13:57.If they progress. These tricks that they use, the phoney religion which

:13:57. > :13:57.

:13:57. > :14:02.has been set up which they cause -- called The Cause, it's all out

:14:02. > :14:07.taking someone vulnerable, giving them a fake love, breaking them,

:14:07. > :14:12.and then winning their love. The way scientology works, you then ask

:14:12. > :14:17.them for money. But does not come up in this film because the Joaquin

:14:17. > :14:23.Phoenix character isn't financially powerful. His films are quite hard

:14:23. > :14:29.to get in to immediately. His films are all very long, quite distant

:14:29. > :14:34.and order. They don't be the automatic... There Will Be Blood

:14:34. > :14:39.was fantastic. There's 20 minutes with no dialogue at the beginning

:14:39. > :14:47.of a There Will Be Blood. The lead character is not lovable. No, but

:14:47. > :14:53.the difference between them is you go on a journey with the character.

:14:53. > :14:59.Did you? His films are work like avant garde novels. The problem

:14:59. > :15:05.with this is that are being in a cult isn't interesting for the here

:15:05. > :15:11.we have a man who has written about it. And I have attended several. I

:15:11. > :15:16.thought that, soon as you get to the end, the beginning was

:15:17. > :15:21.brilliant, we sought during the war they had a clear sense of their

:15:21. > :15:28.purpose in life, their direction, comradeship, they were thrust out

:15:28. > :15:33.into this world and suddenly they are a Lola. Beautifully shot. It is

:15:33. > :15:38.shot so beautifully. The idea things were coming back in after

:15:38. > :15:44.the war. There is no sense of things moving forward for that the

:15:44. > :15:53.characters do not develop. The film has no plot. I could have walked

:15:53. > :16:01.out for 40 minutes during the What about the relationship between

:16:01. > :16:06.Lancaster Dodd and his wife? That is not plot. I felt that Joaquin

:16:06. > :16:10.Phoenix and Philip Seymour Hoffman eclipsed each other. Joaquin

:16:10. > :16:15.Phoenix is amazing, he lost a lot of weight for the part, he has his

:16:15. > :16:23.chiselled face, he looks weird, but he is doing it -- overdoing it a

:16:23. > :16:28.bit. He always has one performance that is a bit over-the-top. Tom

:16:28. > :16:33.Cruise in Magnolia, you know. And Joaquin Phoenix, his face is

:16:33. > :16:37.incredible, but every time you see his body, you saw it in that clip,

:16:37. > :16:42.he has this weird... He has obviously decided that is his

:16:42. > :16:48.thing! You have to believe in the relationship between Joaquin

:16:48. > :16:55.Phoenix and Philip Seymour Hoffman. That is every film about men,

:16:55. > :16:59.father and son. There Will Be Blood was a father-something, and for me

:16:59. > :17:04.the relationship did not work. What summed it up was this strange

:17:04. > :17:08.lowish to Britain at the end, totally unexplained. There is a

:17:08. > :17:12.lack of emotional climax. I think he is being slightly perverse, and

:17:12. > :17:21.this film has been made at side of the commercial sector, so it does

:17:21. > :17:27.not had the pressure of... He said, I want to make this hugely

:17:27. > :17:35.expensive film, incredibly difficult but they win Oscars.

:17:35. > :17:39.Larry Ellison's daughter may this. If somebody came to me and said, I

:17:39. > :17:43.am Paul Thomas Anderson, I have got Joaquin Phoenix and Philip Seymour

:17:43. > :17:47.Hoffman, I would give him a check. This is what happens when artists

:17:47. > :17:53.do not have to respond to commercial pressures. It did not

:17:53. > :17:58.satisfy you because it does not respond to a traditional trajectory.

:17:58. > :18:05.I thought, it just happened to me, I did not have an extreme reaction

:18:05. > :18:11.except for enjoying it while I was watching it. I actually prefer

:18:11. > :18:15.films without plot, but they need to do something to me, take me on a

:18:15. > :18:21.journey with the characters. think it took me somewhere that it

:18:21. > :18:27.did not take you. I think this film was made on 65 mm stock, I was

:18:27. > :18:31.lucky to see a 70 mm print, and that is very rare these days.

:18:31. > :18:38.Increasingly, film-makers are using digital media, and go back to the

:18:38. > :18:42.greatest and of medium is just wonderful to watch. The Master went

:18:42. > :18:46.on general release today. The only certainty in life is death, but for

:18:46. > :18:50.that reason we often shy away from it as a subject. A new exhibition

:18:50. > :18:53.of artwork and artifacts at the welcome collection explores our

:18:53. > :18:57.complex and often contradictory attitudes towards death and

:18:57. > :19:05.immortality. If you're of a nervous disposition, you might want to look

:19:05. > :19:10.The exhibits come from the diverse collection of a former antique

:19:10. > :19:14.print dealer from Chicago, Richard Harris, who set out to capture the

:19:14. > :19:18.essence of death through its iconography. The Western world

:19:18. > :19:22.including England and the US certainly are afraid of death and

:19:22. > :19:30.do not want to have it as part of our conversation in any way, shape

:19:30. > :19:39.or form. My wife and I attended the Day of the Dead in Mexico, and it

:19:39. > :19:44.was an eye-opening experience, to be part of it. They go to the grave

:19:44. > :19:54.sites and bring food that the deceased loved, they bring food and

:19:54. > :19:57.

:19:57. > :20:07.While one room reflects rituals and remembrance around the world,

:20:07. > :20:17.

:20:17. > :20:23.another displays disturbing We see it on the television

:20:23. > :20:29.sometimes, and it seems so far away, but when you stand in front of this

:20:30. > :20:36.print, it can be more visceral and strike you in a more personal

:20:37. > :20:40.fashion, what the results of war really can be. There are scores of

:20:40. > :20:44.skulls and skeletons on show, but while much of the exhibition is

:20:44. > :20:50.morbid and macabre, other works show a different aspect to death

:20:50. > :20:55.which can lift the spirits. People say, Richard, you are so ebullient,

:20:55. > :21:01.smiling and happy about things, how can you be collecting a subject

:21:01. > :21:05.like that? And I think the other aspect of death is that he sees the

:21:05. > :21:15.day, you know, make the most of each of your days of living on the

:21:15. > :21:17.

:21:17. > :21:21.Well, you know, the Wellcome Collection, to have put this on

:21:21. > :21:26.after Brain, to have such an all- encompassing focused exhibition,

:21:26. > :21:31.did it change the way you thought about death? A bit just fitted in

:21:31. > :21:36.exactly what my thinking about death. Going to Mexico around the

:21:36. > :21:39.Day of the Dead celebrations, it was very dear to my heart. I saw an

:21:39. > :21:45.engraving that I had sent as a postcard to my father, so I

:21:45. > :21:49.immediately went, I belong here! Of all the rigours you have put the

:21:49. > :21:54.true for the Review Show, this is something I am starry eyed about,

:21:54. > :22:01.it is just beautiful. In amongst it, there are the most extraordinary

:22:01. > :22:06.collections, but early on you realise, what a collector he is,

:22:06. > :22:10.where he has found this stuff, and this is just a fraction of his

:22:10. > :22:14.exhibition at Chicago. Indeed, and he has assembled this over quite a

:22:14. > :22:19.short period of time, 12 years, and in the catalogue he says, thanks to

:22:19. > :22:23.his wife Barbara for patience and understanding. When you see the

:22:23. > :22:27.collection that he has obsessively assembled over the past 12 years,

:22:27. > :22:33.Barbara Harris does have the patience of a saint! Apparently she

:22:33. > :22:37.has told him to stop. I think it is great because you might say he is a

:22:37. > :22:42.magpie, but he has collected notions of debt from practically

:22:43. > :22:48.every culture, Japanese, Indian... That is what is so wonderful. I was

:22:48. > :22:53.terrified about singers, I am a huge hypochondriac, so scared of

:22:53. > :22:57.dying, but he was there, and he just kind of took me around and

:22:57. > :23:01.kept saying, I just want it to be uplifting. The thing that is

:23:01. > :23:06.comforting about it is how universal so many of the images are,

:23:06. > :23:11.the dance macabre, a medieval chronicle up to the pictures from

:23:11. > :23:17.Japan, the Tibetan sketches, the Day of the Dead in Mexico. We are

:23:17. > :23:23.all terrified by this stuff, I think everyone else's! But dealing

:23:23. > :23:28.with it through art in the same way. You talk about the Durer, but in

:23:28. > :23:36.the images of war, you have got two collections which are extraordinary,

:23:36. > :23:40.the coir as well. You have got three extraordinary anti-war

:23:40. > :23:45.gestures, the greatest in Western art, all together in a single room,

:23:45. > :23:48.absolutely fantastic. I thought what was remarkable about that room,

:23:48. > :23:53.it is the first time when death is not just seen as something that

:23:53. > :23:57.comes upon us, it is something we do to each other, we are implicated

:23:57. > :24:01.in this political process. Even though this is a small fraction of

:24:01. > :24:05.his collection, a lot of which is in storage, which is tragic, he

:24:05. > :24:09.needs a building to put it in, but it takes you through the personal

:24:09. > :24:14.impact of it, it is very emotional, and it brought tears to my eyes and

:24:14. > :24:19.made me laugh. But it shows you how death is used, and there's also a

:24:19. > :24:24.real feeling of taste, you can see what he likes. You see what the

:24:25. > :24:30.curator likes, Kate Ford. Mexican artist took photographs and

:24:30. > :24:33.then put the death masks on. This is an extraordinary human being, he

:24:33. > :24:38.has put together this amazing thing out of personal curiosity. He is

:24:38. > :24:42.not even making money from it, it is to his great credit, and that of

:24:42. > :24:46.the Wellcome Trust and their extraordinary approach to these

:24:46. > :24:53.exhibitions which are partly scientific, partly social, not

:24:53. > :24:59.cloistered away. And it is a free exhibition. And it is free. What I

:24:59. > :25:03.found the most disturbing thing, knowing that he committed suicide

:25:03. > :25:13.in the end, you get a progression of death from someone like Ray

:25:13. > :25:14.

:25:14. > :25:24.Jackson. I think probably... A portrait of myself in 1960, this

:25:24. > :25:24.

:25:24. > :25:31.was a man born in 1860, not looking for at Well! He is so brilliant,

:25:31. > :25:34.totally under-appreciated. Even the simple thing of a portrait on one

:25:34. > :25:38.side and his skull on the other, it is something about coming to terms

:25:38. > :25:43.with the idea that we all have one of them. There is a great tension

:25:43. > :25:48.in this exhibition, virtually all of these objects are meditations on

:25:48. > :25:51.the inevitability of death, but making them is a gesture towards

:25:51. > :25:56.immortality, producing something that will outlive us and the

:25:56. > :26:00.permanent marker. That is the whole idea, but looking at a collection

:26:00. > :26:06.put on for us, it is extraordinary, I have never been anywhere where I

:26:06. > :26:11.have seen so much about death in one space. It is still so taboo. A

:26:11. > :26:15.lot of people will miss out on it. You used the word morbid, and I was

:26:15. > :26:19.talking to Kate Ford, the curator, and I said the word is the wrong

:26:19. > :26:22.word, because death is something we have to live with and carry around,

:26:22. > :26:26.and once you are had a big bereavement, you learn that it does

:26:26. > :26:32.not go away. What is lovely about this is that you feel sad and a bit

:26:32. > :26:37.gross-out at times, but it is also a celebratory in its humour. Some

:26:37. > :26:41.of the things are very poignant. seemed to me somehow an image of

:26:41. > :26:45.the whole exhibition, because here is... Particularly the skull with

:26:45. > :26:50.the monkey perched on it, something you holding your hand, a little bit

:26:50. > :26:54.of death you carry around with you. And the opposite of that is this

:26:54. > :27:00.massive extraordinary chandelier. Which reminded me of the cap which

:27:00. > :27:06.encrypt in Rome, this idea of using the bones, having them in the room

:27:06. > :27:11.with you. An amazing thing! that is one of three he bought!

:27:11. > :27:16.would like one in my dining room! Because the exhibition is free, you

:27:16. > :27:21.can afford to buy the book, the whole thing is stunning. The whole

:27:21. > :27:29.thing is absolutely stunning, if you get a chance to go to Death: A

:27:29. > :27:34.Self-Portrait at the Wellcome Trust. The animated sitcom Full English,

:27:34. > :27:38.on Channel 4 on Monday, has been touted as Britain's answer to the

:27:38. > :27:42.senses and Family Guy. Meet the Johnson family, a fairground there

:27:42. > :27:52.in which review the state of the nation, satirising the television

:27:52. > :27:57.

:27:57. > :28:03.The series was created and written by Harry and Jack Williams, the

:28:03. > :28:06.brothers behind the BBC Two comedy, and the characters and sets are by

:28:06. > :28:11.the artist and illustrator Alex Scarfe, who has followed in the

:28:11. > :28:16.footsteps of his father Gerald. cannot believe our own daughter is

:28:16. > :28:22.too embarrassed to have asked there... The cast list includes The

:28:22. > :28:31.IT Crowd's Richard Ayoade, Kayvan Novak from Facejacker, and Daisy

:28:31. > :28:34.Haggard from Green Wing. This is my chance to shine! The first episode

:28:34. > :28:41.takes aim at Britain's Got Talent, it's more outrageous acts, and of

:28:41. > :28:51.course its best-known judge. massive pile of steaming... You

:28:51. > :28:54.

:28:54. > :28:58.were awful and you are out. You So all the ingredients are in place,

:28:58. > :29:08.but does Full English satisfy the appetite for home-grown satire, or

:29:08. > :29:17.

:29:17. > :29:21.Where his money? Is she playing The Americans have delivered The

:29:21. > :29:27.Simpsons and Family Guy. This is the attempt to get back in the game.

:29:27. > :29:31.Isn't it strange there hasn't been at a British equivalent given the

:29:31. > :29:36.success of The Simpsons and Family Guy? Maybe it's because they had

:29:36. > :29:46.such success, but this is not the Simpsons. I think I enjoyed it more

:29:46. > :29:56.than anybody else. It is very much the palate we are talking about, be

:29:56. > :30:02.

:30:02. > :30:10.disarmed but Ted. -- Beavis and Arteta. I was pretty down on the

:30:10. > :30:16.first episode. I went back and watch the first episode of Family

:30:16. > :30:19.Guy, and it was finding its feet. It wasn't anywhere in the year as

:30:19. > :30:23.the joyous with what it did back then for some I think this is the

:30:23. > :30:29.sort of thing, if you gave it time, it could grow into something which

:30:29. > :30:34.could stand up against the American shows. The writing would pick up?

:30:35. > :30:40.They need to get a writer. They need a miracle. This was like

:30:40. > :30:47.watching a particularly unfunny episode of banana Mamma. I did not

:30:47. > :30:53.laugh once. The jokes were stupid and crude. The targets were so

:30:53. > :31:03.obvious for some it just felt such a deliberately cynical thing. Here

:31:03. > :31:03.

:31:03. > :31:10.was a great opportunity of putting down a marker for British animation.

:31:10. > :31:18.We have great animators, brilliant animators. How these people got to

:31:18. > :31:24.make this, it's nothing to do with Family Guy and The Simpsons. We are

:31:24. > :31:33.dignifying it all that it is a rip- off of the monkey dust. It was

:31:33. > :31:39.before about 10 years ago. Sorry, BBC Three. It is very reverential

:31:39. > :31:46.to monkey dust. It brings the same characters back. But without any

:31:46. > :31:53.hope jokes. No punchlines. There was a great possibility of a thread,

:31:53. > :31:58.the gap year. You want to leave them out there rather than bring

:31:58. > :32:03.them home of. Why is the first episode so weak? It's not like you

:32:03. > :32:12.have got to do the shoots. defended a little bit, I felt that

:32:12. > :32:19.the level of darkness they went to, having Princess Diana and a topless

:32:19. > :32:24.Jade Goody... Easy targets. Shagging the Queen. It is low blows

:32:24. > :32:32.for teenagers. They want to watch something their parents would be

:32:32. > :32:38.shocked by it. I'm a being shocked by it being so bad, not subversive.

:32:38. > :32:43.It's perfect audience is a 13-year- old boy yet it's going out at night

:32:43. > :32:52.time. When I was 13, I wasn't up late. It needs to have more

:32:52. > :33:01.satirical stuff. More political force up why is it about bad TV?

:33:01. > :33:07.is bad TV about bad TV. To take the mickey out of Simon Cowell... These

:33:07. > :33:13.reality shows are over. What I thought was interesting about the

:33:13. > :33:18.second episode, interesting could be overstating it, but better about

:33:18. > :33:22.the second when a comet didn't try to take on a theme up. I felt we

:33:22. > :33:32.were living alongside their lives. The references to homosexuality and

:33:32. > :33:36.the lazy use of the word gay, please stop doing that. Let's hope

:33:36. > :33:41.that there will be more animation. There's loads of animators about

:33:41. > :33:46.but it needs to be funny. From the Creation and the transmission, it

:33:46. > :33:54.needs to be faster. It could open up an opportunity by being

:33:54. > :33:57.commissioned. Animation used to be expensive to do, but now it is not.

:33:57. > :34:02.Maybe this will encourage the idea, maybe people will see it and think

:34:02. > :34:07.they can do better than that. That's a good thing. It was

:34:07. > :34:17.slightly better the second time. almost laughed in the second

:34:17. > :34:18.

:34:18. > :34:21.episode. You're easily pleased. Let's hear from more animation. You

:34:21. > :34:24.can see episode two of Full English on Channel 4 on Monday night.

:34:24. > :34:27.That's all from us for tonight. Thanks to Alex Preston, Hannah

:34:27. > :34:29.McGill and James Fox. Jools Holland's joined by Ellie Goulding

:34:29. > :34:33.and Foals among others on Later after the lottery. Next week,

:34:33. > :34:35.Martha will be here to look at Stephen Fry's return to the West