Episode 6

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04'When I had a baby, the furthest thing from my mind

0:00:04 > 0:00:08'was the growing pains that were just around the corner.

0:00:10 > 0:00:13'And there's a lot more to come as a parent.

0:00:13 > 0:00:15'You have to juggle teaching the ABCs...'

0:00:15 > 0:00:17All done, hooray!

0:00:17 > 0:00:21I'm literally ridiculously impressed.

0:00:21 > 0:00:23'Dishing out all the latest gear.'

0:00:23 > 0:00:26If they see something, by the end of the week they've got it.

0:00:26 > 0:00:28'Keeping them out of harm's way.'

0:00:28 > 0:00:33I just don't feel comfortable when there's so much knife crime and gangs, and things like that.

0:00:33 > 0:00:36'And wiping away the tears.'

0:00:38 > 0:00:43All she cares about is herself, and I don't know how you're meant to parent that.

0:00:43 > 0:00:48'I want to meet mums across Britain who are passionate about the ways they bring up their kids.'

0:00:48 > 0:00:51Two most important things are good manners and eating your vegetables.

0:00:51 > 0:00:55'In the hope of becoming best prepared for my daughter Coco.'

0:00:55 > 0:00:59You're definitely not equipped to deal with something like this.

0:00:59 > 0:01:01I'm not, anyway.

0:01:01 > 0:01:06This programme contains some strong language

0:01:07 > 0:01:09'18 months ago,

0:01:09 > 0:01:13'I gave birth to the little miracle that is my daughter Coco.

0:01:13 > 0:01:16'She's the apple of my eye, and like every parent,

0:01:16 > 0:01:21'I want to bring her up to be a safe, happy and successful person.

0:01:21 > 0:01:28'But Coco is beginning to get a mind of her own, and starting to push the boundaries,

0:01:28 > 0:01:31'so how do I actually do it?'

0:01:31 > 0:01:33No, no. Coco, no!

0:01:33 > 0:01:37Up until now, there's been absolutely no method to my motherhood.

0:01:37 > 0:01:42I've just basically been winging it a bit, hoping instincts would be enough.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45There've been a few times where I've thought,

0:01:45 > 0:01:48"I don't know what I'm doing and how to handle this situation."

0:01:48 > 0:01:52I actually need to decide now what kind of mother I want to be.

0:01:52 > 0:01:56Am I going to be strict or am I going to be relaxed and happy-go-lucky?

0:01:56 > 0:01:58I don't really know.

0:02:00 > 0:02:04'My mum says she struggled most with me when I hit my rebellious teens.

0:02:04 > 0:02:08'I was a nightmare, drinking, smoking and meeting boys.

0:02:08 > 0:02:11'It might be a long way off for Coco,

0:02:11 > 0:02:15'but even the thought of it fills me with dread.

0:02:18 > 0:02:24'The first mum I've come to meet is Lindsay, an A&E nurse from Rugby,

0:02:24 > 0:02:28'with two sons, Cameron and Logan, and a 14-year-old daughter, Abbie.'

0:02:28 > 0:02:30Tell me about your family life.

0:02:30 > 0:02:35It's good apart from my eldest, Abbie,

0:02:35 > 0:02:40who, yes, is a teenager, and we all know it!

0:02:40 > 0:02:41What are you finding hard?

0:02:41 > 0:02:45Everything with her. She...

0:02:45 > 0:02:49It's like she's got a tick-list of things to do to annoy your parents

0:02:49 > 0:02:53and things you're meant to do as a teenager, and she's working steadily through them.

0:02:53 > 0:02:59'The problems with bad behaviour and lying started when Abbie was 11.

0:02:59 > 0:03:04'Lindsay's now resorted to inspecting Abbie's bedroom on a regular basis.'

0:03:04 > 0:03:07In this pocket, she had a little bag of cannabis.

0:03:09 > 0:03:14So, yeah, now I have to check her pockets as well.

0:03:14 > 0:03:17Can you get inside her head?

0:03:17 > 0:03:20I do remember what it's like.

0:03:20 > 0:03:24I do remember that everything does revolve around your friends,

0:03:24 > 0:03:28and that adults are just... Just do nag at you...

0:03:29 > 0:03:35But I still had the respect that I didn't swear at my parents,

0:03:35 > 0:03:38and I was scared if I was in trouble,

0:03:38 > 0:03:43but she doesn't seem to care if she gets told off.

0:03:43 > 0:03:48It just goes straight over her head and she'll go and do the same thing.

0:03:50 > 0:03:54I don't trust her.

0:03:56 > 0:03:59Everything that she says I just think is a lie now.

0:03:59 > 0:04:04More than anything, it's just sad. It shouldn't have got to this point

0:04:04 > 0:04:10and I'm not really sure...where you take it from here, really.

0:04:13 > 0:04:18When you do your ante-natal classes and they teach you about nappies,

0:04:18 > 0:04:21no-one really talks about the teenage years.

0:04:21 > 0:04:25You're definitely not equipped to deal with something like this.

0:04:25 > 0:04:27I'm not, anyway.

0:04:27 > 0:04:30I wouldn't have a clue how to deal with this.

0:04:36 > 0:04:40- Hiya.- Hi.- Hi, I'm Cherry. Abbie. Nice to meet you.- You, too.

0:04:40 > 0:04:44- Was school all right?- It was OK. - Glad it's finished?- Definitely. - Yeah, I bet.

0:04:44 > 0:04:48- Cool, wicked. Shall we go?- Yeah.

0:04:48 > 0:04:53'14-year-old Abbie is a popular and outgoing student with clear ambitions about the future.

0:04:53 > 0:04:57'She wants to become a tattoo artist and move to the States.'

0:04:57 > 0:05:01I like doing my art, which is like tattooing. I want to do that.

0:05:01 > 0:05:04- I noticed on your hands...- Yeah. - Practising.

0:05:04 > 0:05:07I got bored and my mates just did it.

0:05:07 > 0:05:09And they got bored and they got to do it.

0:05:09 > 0:05:12What kind of tattoos do you want?

0:05:12 > 0:05:16Quite a lot. I want ones on my hands, and on my back and everywhere.

0:05:16 > 0:05:18And the piercings as well, and stuff like that.

0:05:18 > 0:05:21What are things like with your mum at the moment?

0:05:21 > 0:05:23I think she thinks quite badly of me.

0:05:23 > 0:05:26She's told me she's not proud of me, she never will be.

0:05:26 > 0:05:32She's told me I'm horrible, selfish, and so, so many things.

0:05:32 > 0:05:38And then she'll say she loves me sometimes but I think I've heard that once in the past year.

0:05:38 > 0:05:42And it's horrible. I just don't think she really likes me much.

0:05:42 > 0:05:47She'd much rather I be a completely different person but it's not going to happen.

0:05:47 > 0:05:50- Do you think you're badly behaved? - Probably, yeah.

0:05:50 > 0:05:56I try to be good sometimes but it's more fun when you're bad behaved, to be honest.

0:05:56 > 0:06:01'In two weeks' time, there's a gig night in town

0:06:01 > 0:06:03'that Abbie is desperate to go to,

0:06:03 > 0:06:06'despite getting into trouble there in the past.

0:06:06 > 0:06:12- Hello.- Hi.- What you after? - I don't know. Erm...

0:06:13 > 0:06:18- You know FMR?- Yeah.- Could I go?

0:06:18 > 0:06:21- When is it on?- 1st April.

0:06:21 > 0:06:26Erm... I don't know Abbie, cos last time you went you weren't there.

0:06:26 > 0:06:29I know where I was and I was not at Found?

0:06:29 > 0:06:33- Well, I don't know where you were and that is the point.- All right(!)

0:06:33 > 0:06:37I'll think about it but it absolutely depends on your behaviour.

0:06:37 > 0:06:42Cos why should I let you go somewhere when you haven't given us anything back?

0:06:42 > 0:06:45I'm not going to magically change overnight.

0:06:45 > 0:06:48Well, I'd like you to magically change just a little bit.

0:06:49 > 0:06:53Sod off... Bitch.

0:06:55 > 0:06:57And that's negotiation!

0:06:59 > 0:07:04The atmosphere in the house when Abbie's around is very tense.

0:07:04 > 0:07:07It's very stressful for Lindsay.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10Communication has completely broken down, there is no trust.

0:07:10 > 0:07:14There's a lot of anger and they are at stalemate.

0:07:16 > 0:07:22'The challenges for me as a mum to toddler Coco are a bit more basic,

0:07:22 > 0:07:24'so you'd think more straightforward.'

0:07:24 > 0:07:27- Mummy's going to make your lunch. - No!

0:07:27 > 0:07:29'How to feed my daughter healthy food.'

0:07:29 > 0:07:34Even the mention of the word "lunch" is enough to send her into a total whack attack!

0:07:34 > 0:07:36No!

0:07:36 > 0:07:41So on the menu today is a delicious pasta, vegetable

0:07:41 > 0:07:45and tuna baby-mush thing.

0:07:45 > 0:07:49Look, yummy. Oh, delicious!

0:07:49 > 0:07:51I'd happily eat it.

0:07:51 > 0:07:54No! N...

0:07:54 > 0:07:57Have a little sit in your chair.

0:07:57 > 0:07:59COCO CRIES AND SHOUTS

0:07:59 > 0:08:01She's really strong!

0:08:01 > 0:08:03COCO CONTINUES CRYING AND SHOUTING

0:08:03 > 0:08:08'It's got so bad that it's turned into a daily battle.'

0:08:08 > 0:08:11- Just a little bit.- No!- No?- No!- No?

0:08:11 > 0:08:15- Would it make a difference if you knew this took me about four hours...- No!- No?

0:08:17 > 0:08:21'And sadly it's one that Coco usually wins.'

0:08:21 > 0:08:25- Little try?- No! - A little tiny bit.- No!

0:08:25 > 0:08:26- No!- No?

0:08:26 > 0:08:30Meal times can be a real battle and sometimes if I've had a long day,

0:08:31 > 0:08:33'I can be really wet and give up,'

0:08:33 > 0:08:38and we just end up on the sofa watching bed-time telly.

0:08:38 > 0:08:41'OK, so it's not ideal,

0:08:41 > 0:08:44'but letting Coco win sometimes doesn't feel that bad,

0:08:44 > 0:08:48'and I don't really want to make food a massive issue.

0:08:48 > 0:08:53'But I know some parents would think it would cause problems later,

0:08:53 > 0:08:57'and that the key to a happy home is in setting very clear boundaries.'

0:08:58 > 0:09:01'I've come to Sussex to meet a couple

0:09:01 > 0:09:07who believe in an old-fashioned, disciplinarian approach to bringing up their two boys.'

0:09:07 > 0:09:11- Hi, Paul.- Hello, Cherry. Hi!- Nice to meet you.- Come in. And you, come in.

0:09:11 > 0:09:16- Ooh, are you a shoes-off household? - We are, but we don't mind. - It's all right. Don't worry.

0:09:16 > 0:09:22No. No. I like to play by the rules. I don't mind at all.

0:09:22 > 0:09:25As long as I don't have to go barefoot. That's fine.

0:09:25 > 0:09:32'From day one, Paul and Nicky have been very black and white about setting firm rules for their kids.'

0:09:32 > 0:09:35What are some of do's and the don'ts of your household?

0:09:35 > 0:09:39- Ooh...- Don't eat... You eat and drink at the table.

0:09:39 > 0:09:42They never sit on the couch with any food.

0:09:42 > 0:09:47The only time they can maybe sit on the floor is sometimes on a Friday

0:09:47 > 0:09:51it's "sweetie" day and they can have a little bit of relaxation there.

0:09:51 > 0:09:55We do pull them up every so often on manners. That's a very big issue.

0:09:55 > 0:09:59That they know they've got to have please, thank you, et cetera,

0:09:59 > 0:10:01and be very well-behaved.

0:10:01 > 0:10:03The little things like the shoes off when they come in,

0:10:03 > 0:10:07but it's instilled in them a lot of the time. They know that these are the rules.

0:10:07 > 0:10:14I gave Nicky and Paul a camera to film over 2 weeks to show me how discipline is enforced in the house.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16Right, you, listen.

0:10:16 > 0:10:18I heard you say shut up to me.

0:10:18 > 0:10:20I did not say that to you!

0:10:20 > 0:10:22Get outside,

0:10:22 > 0:10:25time out, you can go outside!

0:10:25 > 0:10:31We have got them into a routine but we still get times where they keep getting up out of bed

0:10:31 > 0:10:38and sometimes it gets too much and if they really are playing up, one thing we do do sometimes,

0:10:38 > 0:10:40particularly at night,

0:10:40 > 0:10:46is we bring one of them down and we put them just outside in the dark and shut the door.

0:10:46 > 0:10:48- You going to go up to bed?- No.

0:10:48 > 0:10:52Well, then you better go out then.

0:10:52 > 0:10:56You gonna get into bed or are you going outside?

0:10:56 > 0:10:58What you doing?

0:10:58 > 0:11:02People might think that's quite cruel or not right at all, but

0:11:02 > 0:11:07the absolute amazing change you get after, I don't know, say 30 seconds

0:11:07 > 0:11:10to a minute of actually doing that,

0:11:10 > 0:11:14it's not long, you bring them back in, straight up to bed, no problem.

0:11:14 > 0:11:17Right then, give me a kiss.

0:11:17 > 0:11:19- Love you loads.- Kiss.

0:11:19 > 0:11:25If you're going to say to them, "Look, if you don't shut up you're gonna be outside,"

0:11:25 > 0:11:28it's quite easy as a parent not to carry that through,

0:11:28 > 0:11:31but they're quite intelligent and they get to know,

0:11:31 > 0:11:36if you don't carry that through, they know that, they know it's just words.

0:11:36 > 0:11:40I don't like doing it but I know I'm going to get the result out of it

0:11:40 > 0:11:43at the end of the day and that's why we have done that.

0:11:43 > 0:11:46Right, well because you've been good boys,

0:11:46 > 0:11:51- who wants to watch the Doctor Who DVD we got later, yeah?- Me!

0:11:51 > 0:11:55Nicky and Paul's methods may not be to everyone's taste

0:11:55 > 0:11:58but they are demanding of themselves too,

0:11:58 > 0:12:03and have both chosen to work shifts so that one of them is always at home with the boys.

0:12:03 > 0:12:06There are definitely a few benefits to being strict.

0:12:06 > 0:12:09Children helping with the washing up,

0:12:09 > 0:12:11I want a bit of that!

0:12:11 > 0:12:14When either Lewis or Oliver don't toe the line,

0:12:14 > 0:12:17Paul and Nicky also use smacking as their last resort,

0:12:17 > 0:12:21and they're keen to show me when they do this.

0:12:21 > 0:12:23It'll make me better.

0:12:23 > 0:12:27I'm not arguing with you, you're not having any.

0:12:34 > 0:12:36Oliver, you'll be straight back outside.

0:12:36 > 0:12:41Don't you dare touch that fridge or that packet of crisps up there, no, no.

0:12:49 > 0:12:51Now STOP IT.

0:12:55 > 0:12:57Come on, bedtime.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01Bed now,

0:13:01 > 0:13:03thank you.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06Get off, don't do that, no!

0:13:06 > 0:13:08No.

0:13:08 > 0:13:11Right, get upstairs, please, now.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13You've been told.

0:13:16 > 0:13:17Bed! Thank you.

0:13:20 > 0:13:23Take your rag.

0:13:25 > 0:13:27Bed.

0:13:29 > 0:13:33That last one's quite hard to watch, that last smack

0:13:33 > 0:13:35was a proper smack!

0:13:35 > 0:13:36Is that the hardest you do it?

0:13:36 > 0:13:39Yeah, but it shocked him, didn't it?

0:13:39 > 0:13:45Yeah, it did and I think that's what you need, the shock factor sometimes because I think a very light tap

0:13:45 > 0:13:50he'd have laughed and it wouldn't have worked and you're losing

0:13:50 > 0:13:57the message there so sometimes a little bit harder so he does realise we do mean business.

0:13:57 > 0:14:01- How often do you smack the children? - I suppose with Lewis maybe

0:14:01 > 0:14:06two or three times a week and with Oliver again about the same.

0:14:06 > 0:14:11You know, I'd rather see somebody discipline with a smack then watching a family,

0:14:11 > 0:14:15"No, don't do that, don't do that" and the child walking all over them.

0:14:15 > 0:14:19Do you ever worry that violence breeds violence and that,

0:14:19 > 0:14:24by smacking your kids, you may be teaching them something unhealthy?

0:14:24 > 0:14:28I can only judge it by my own personal experiences and the same

0:14:28 > 0:14:35with Nicky, in the fact that we were smacked as kids and I don't think that did us any harm whatsoever.

0:14:35 > 0:14:42I was only smacked twice as a child and because it was so rare

0:14:42 > 0:14:44I remember it vividly.

0:14:44 > 0:14:48Once when I cut the back of the sofa open with a knife

0:14:48 > 0:14:53and once when it tired to run across the road

0:14:53 > 0:14:58and I remember being really, really scared

0:14:58 > 0:15:01and very sorry and knowing I'd stepped over the line,

0:15:03 > 0:15:05but I think

0:15:05 > 0:15:10doing it that rarely means that it has a huge impact.

0:15:10 > 0:15:17I think two or three times a week and you're starting to step into a different territory.

0:15:17 > 0:15:22So smacking's not something I want to do on a regular basis as I am not sure it works,

0:15:22 > 0:15:26but a recent government survey found that two thirds of children in Britain

0:15:26 > 0:15:28have been smacked by their parents,

0:15:28 > 0:15:31although only a quarter of parents were happy to admit it.

0:15:31 > 0:15:36If the government made smacking illegal, would you stop?

0:15:36 > 0:15:39No, I'd rather go to court

0:15:39 > 0:15:46and justify why I'm doing it than stop doing what I feel is right.

0:15:46 > 0:15:50That's a really strong belief and I don't honestly think,

0:15:50 > 0:15:56um, anybody has the right to say what you can and can't do with your child.

0:15:57 > 0:16:00Kids learn by example, kids are like sponges.

0:16:00 > 0:16:05They watch everything you do and they copy it, and if you're dealing with

0:16:05 > 0:16:11your kid by smacking constantly they can't but learn that example, surely?

0:16:13 > 0:16:20So if I'm not prepared to wield the stick for discipline, perhaps I can always encourage Coco with a carrot.

0:16:20 > 0:16:24After all, a bit of bribery never did anyone too much harm.

0:16:28 > 0:16:30I've come to Derby to meet Chantal.

0:16:30 > 0:16:34She's a 28-year-old single mum, who works non-stop to keep a smile

0:16:34 > 0:16:39on her three kids' faces and pay for everything they could ever wish for.

0:16:39 > 0:16:46And when I say she works for it, I mean she really works it.

0:16:55 > 0:17:01As well as lap-dancing, Chantal works as a beautician and waitress

0:17:01 > 0:17:03to keep the money rolling in.

0:17:03 > 0:17:06I like to make £200-300 a day.

0:17:06 > 0:17:09I like to come to work and make 4, 5 6, 7, 900 pounds a night.

0:17:09 > 0:17:14- What?!- Yeah, you know what I mean? I've made two, three grand a night

0:17:14 > 0:17:16and who's making that?

0:17:16 > 0:17:22I've got kids that want, if they see something, by the end of the week they've got it.

0:17:22 > 0:17:25I do this for my kids to have the best. I couldn't

0:17:25 > 0:17:29do it sitting on the dole. Who could live off £100 every two weeks?

0:17:29 > 0:17:32As long as I'm young, fit and able to work and I can give them

0:17:32 > 0:17:35what they want, there's no way over my dead body they're going without.

0:17:35 > 0:17:39Juggling three jobs to provide her children with the best

0:17:39 > 0:17:45means that Chantal can work until 4am to earn the big bucks.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03Wow, how do you feel?

0:18:03 > 0:18:06It's so early in the morning!

0:18:06 > 0:18:09How are you feeling?

0:18:09 > 0:18:12I'm tired. This is what I do all the time though.

0:18:12 > 0:18:15And how much money did you made?

0:18:15 > 0:18:19About £300, it's not the best but it's Friday night and it's hit and miss.

0:18:19 > 0:18:21What time are you gonna get up?

0:18:23 > 0:18:24What time is it now?

0:18:24 > 0:18:32- 4am.- I'll get into bed about five and be up at about seven with Kameiya for breakfast.

0:18:34 > 0:18:36See you tomorrow.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39Bright and early, make sure you're there.

0:18:46 > 0:18:50It's 8am and I am bushed!

0:18:53 > 0:18:55Hiya!

0:18:55 > 0:19:02But there's no rest for Chantal, as her five-year-old daughter Kameiya is definitely ready to play.

0:19:02 > 0:19:04How are you feeling?

0:19:06 > 0:19:08I feel like death.

0:19:11 > 0:19:15My head's spinning, I have a headache in my eye,

0:19:15 > 0:19:18I feel like I'm dying.

0:19:18 > 0:19:24Chantal's incredible work ethic has paid for sons, Ma-kyi and Kamarl to have every computer console

0:19:24 > 0:19:26they could ever want,

0:19:26 > 0:19:29and daughter Kameiya gets anything she could possibly think of.

0:19:29 > 0:19:33So it's not always easy deciding who's first in line to play a game.

0:19:33 > 0:19:35Kameiya, give Ma-Kyi...

0:19:35 > 0:19:38No-one's going to play with you in a minute.

0:19:40 > 0:19:42I wish I knew how to do it.

0:19:42 > 0:19:45Ma-Kyi, come here, come and do it quick please.

0:19:45 > 0:19:47Ma-Kyi?

0:19:47 > 0:19:51CHILD WHINGES

0:20:02 > 0:20:05Why is she upset?

0:20:05 > 0:20:10Because she's spoilt, if she doesn't get her own way, because she's got to have player number one,

0:20:10 > 0:20:14she obviously feels like she's got to say it all.

0:20:14 > 0:20:16She's just showing off.

0:20:16 > 0:20:18CHILD GRIZZLES

0:20:21 > 0:20:23Gosh, she's really shouting, isn't she?

0:20:29 > 0:20:31Are you going to bed?

0:20:31 > 0:20:34Come on then, right come on.

0:20:38 > 0:20:44Chantal's taking the kids out for some good old retail therapy, something they do most weeks.

0:20:48 > 0:20:53But it's not quite the fun and games I thought it would be.

0:20:53 > 0:20:58You boys look a bit sad, what's wrong? Are you all right?

0:20:58 > 0:21:03They've been so excited but if you don't smile I'm not taking you shopping.

0:21:03 > 0:21:05You ready?

0:21:05 > 0:21:07This might cheer you up a bit.

0:21:11 > 0:21:13How is it?

0:21:19 > 0:21:20Where are my kids going?

0:21:22 > 0:21:25Come here. Don't just walk off.

0:21:25 > 0:21:28If you don't eat your dinner, we ain't going shopping.

0:21:28 > 0:21:32Ma-Kyi, no, come here now.

0:21:32 > 0:21:35I've noticed that when things get really bad,

0:21:35 > 0:21:38you say to the boys "I won't buy you this, I won't buy you that,"

0:21:38 > 0:21:41do you then follow that threat through successfully?

0:21:46 > 0:21:48I think I'll take that as a no!

0:21:52 > 0:21:54What about these?

0:22:05 > 0:22:11After three hours, the kids have managed to spend 130 quid of mum's money.

0:22:11 > 0:22:13Can I see your loot?

0:22:15 > 0:22:16You got an umbrella,

0:22:16 > 0:22:18a music book,

0:22:20 > 0:22:22another book,

0:22:22 > 0:22:23a puzzle,

0:22:23 > 0:22:25and some aqua beads,

0:22:25 > 0:22:28they look really fun.

0:22:31 > 0:22:33Boys, what did you get?

0:22:33 > 0:22:37Is that what you wanted? How do you feel now you've got it?

0:22:37 > 0:22:38Happy.

0:22:38 > 0:22:41You wanted that game for ages and you're not smiling.

0:22:41 > 0:22:47Why do I bother because they don't appreciate what I do.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50They got everything they wanted and

0:22:50 > 0:22:54yet they were still really unhappy.

0:22:54 > 0:22:58Chantal is either a saint or completely mad.

0:23:01 > 0:23:07I certainly want Coco to be happy but I don't want it to come at the expense of her walking all over me.

0:23:07 > 0:23:12She can't be the boss, I've got to take charge, so I'm going

0:23:12 > 0:23:16all out to tackle the point when I give in most - mealtimes.

0:23:16 > 0:23:23Today it's all about that high chair and this Bolognese, and unless those

0:23:23 > 0:23:29two are part of the equation there will be no food passing Coco's lips.

0:23:29 > 0:23:33Cos I've been a bit silly, haven't, just I letting you eat what you want

0:23:33 > 0:23:40but now, my friend, the worm has turned.

0:23:40 > 0:23:44It's not just about food at the moment, it's also about who's boss

0:23:44 > 0:23:48and I've just been a bit wet and kind of relaxed and

0:23:48 > 0:23:53I'm slightly putting on my mummy hat at the moment and bringing out the big guns.

0:24:07 > 0:24:13So far, so predictable, but this time I'm not giving up.

0:24:13 > 0:24:15You want some of this?

0:24:20 > 0:24:23She really doesn't want it.

0:24:23 > 0:24:25Surely she can't go on like this all day...

0:24:25 > 0:24:28Can she?

0:24:38 > 0:24:42Poor cow. The phone's next to get it.

0:24:50 > 0:24:52I'm really tired of this game.

0:24:55 > 0:24:59OK, I'm throwing in the towel on the high chair,

0:24:59 > 0:25:05but I really want to stay strong on the Bolognese.

0:25:18 > 0:25:24Coco hasn't eaten now for 11 hours, it's 6 o'clock

0:25:24 > 0:25:26and the food is right there.

0:25:26 > 0:25:27She's...

0:25:30 > 0:25:33..definitely not gonna eat today,

0:25:33 > 0:25:34I'd put money on it.

0:25:49 > 0:25:52MOUTHS: Oh, my God!

0:26:46 > 0:26:50OK, she only had four mouthfuls...

0:26:51 > 0:26:57but after 11 hours

0:26:57 > 0:27:00I'm actually pretty happy with that.

0:27:06 > 0:27:12When Coco and I leave the house, my number one concern is keeping her out of harm's way.

0:27:12 > 0:27:18I obviously don't let her out of my sight, but, with constant reminders in news of abductions like

0:27:18 > 0:27:24Jamie Bulger and Madeline McCann, I worry if I'll ever eventually be OK with cutting the apron strings.

0:27:24 > 0:27:30So where should I draw the line between keeping her safe and living a life governed by fear?

0:27:33 > 0:27:38I've come to meet mum of two Faye, who's made the decision to live in

0:27:38 > 0:27:42a rural, gated community with her husband and daughters Eli and Brooke.

0:27:42 > 0:27:48Do you like the area you're living in, is this somewhere you feel safe?

0:27:48 > 0:27:54This particular flat, yeah I feel safe in here, outside this flat, no, not at all.

0:27:54 > 0:27:58I just don't feel comfortable letting my child roam the street

0:27:58 > 0:28:02when there is so much knife crime and gangs and things like that.

0:28:02 > 0:28:08I can understand people do think I keep them in my own little bubble,

0:28:08 > 0:28:12but at the end of the day that is up to me and that is how I want to bring my children up.

0:28:12 > 0:28:15I don't want them to grow up too quick.

0:28:15 > 0:28:20The only place that Faye does let 10-year-old Eli play is on the tennis

0:28:20 > 0:28:24court next to her apartment, right where she can see her.

0:28:26 > 0:28:28Is this where you like to come and play?

0:28:28 > 0:28:30- Yeah.- Why don't you go other places?

0:28:30 > 0:28:34Because my mum won't allow it, she's very protective between me

0:28:34 > 0:28:38and Brooke, and if we go somewhere else, she'll just worry and panic.

0:28:38 > 0:28:41Who does your mum tell you to look out for?

0:28:41 > 0:28:45Well, gangs might jump out and say, "Give me your money!"

0:28:45 > 0:28:48And if you refuse, they might stab you,

0:28:48 > 0:28:56or people that you don't know, especially strangers,

0:28:56 > 0:28:58those are pretty scary, or babysitters,

0:28:58 > 0:29:00they could be very dangerous,

0:29:00 > 0:29:03people in shops that are standing round and you're scared

0:29:03 > 0:29:06and you walk past them and they cover your mouth,

0:29:06 > 0:29:08so you scream and they can't hear you or anything.

0:29:08 > 0:29:11Is kidnapping something you're scared of?

0:29:11 > 0:29:15Yeah, like Madeleine, that scares me,

0:29:15 > 0:29:22because I see that or stabbing and being shot and everything.

0:29:22 > 0:29:26'Listening to Eli, I found that really, really shocking.'

0:29:26 > 0:29:29She is terrified of the world.

0:29:29 > 0:29:35She is completely petrified of really, really scary grown-up things, like murder.

0:29:37 > 0:29:41When Faye does go out with her daughters, she makes sure that they always stay within reach.

0:29:41 > 0:29:47When I was younger, I was able to go out and play with my next door neighbour

0:29:47 > 0:29:51and get our bikes and go riding round the block.

0:29:51 > 0:29:53They could never do that now,

0:29:53 > 0:29:56they could never ever in a million years do that.

0:29:56 > 0:29:59Why can't Elouise walk down the street on her own?

0:29:59 > 0:30:07Because it's just far too dangerous. I'll show you the sort of things that scare me.

0:30:07 > 0:30:10All she was doing was walking a dog

0:30:10 > 0:30:14and she got slashed 41 times.

0:30:14 > 0:30:16She wasn't out in a club,

0:30:16 > 0:30:21she wasn't partying, she was out walking a dog.

0:30:22 > 0:30:25And this one, this happened the other day.

0:30:25 > 0:30:30He came out of a train station and they hunted him down

0:30:30 > 0:30:33and stabbed him to death, because they went to two different schools.

0:30:33 > 0:30:37Do you think the papers are blowing it out of proportion?

0:30:37 > 0:30:40No, I don't. You can't make something like this up.

0:30:40 > 0:30:45You just can't and, unfortunately, its just going to get a whole lot worse.

0:30:45 > 0:30:50Before you had children, did you think your fear would be this powerful?

0:30:50 > 0:30:54No. If I knew ten years ago

0:30:54 > 0:30:57what it was going to be like now, I wouldn't have had kids.

0:30:59 > 0:31:01'I'm so surprised'

0:31:01 > 0:31:05at her huge level of fear at the world.

0:31:05 > 0:31:13It must be completely exhausting for her and I'm not sure she needs to be that worried.

0:31:13 > 0:31:17Although I don't think the world is as hostile a place as Faye does,

0:31:17 > 0:31:19I can relate to her protective instinct.

0:31:19 > 0:31:24It is really difficult to learn to let go, but eventually I know I'll have to.

0:31:33 > 0:31:37Back in Rugby, and Abi's been grounded since I last saw her.

0:31:37 > 0:31:42But mum Lindsay's told me that, after two weeks of squeaky-clean behaviour,

0:31:42 > 0:31:46she's allowing her to go out to the gig tonight with her friends.

0:31:46 > 0:31:50How come you've decided to let her go? I know you were really questioning whether to.

0:31:50 > 0:31:53We've actually had quite a nice, sort of, week and a half.

0:31:53 > 0:31:58I know she's been grounded and it's kind of forced family time,

0:31:58 > 0:32:02but it's been quite nice really, so I don't want to spoil it

0:32:02 > 0:32:06- and everything to flare up again. - Are you nervous?

0:32:06 > 0:32:12Hmm, a little bit, yeah. I haven't got the energy for more arguments really, so I just hope she behaves.

0:32:14 > 0:32:19So do I, as I've been invited along tonight to observe what Abi's like when she's with her mates.

0:32:20 > 0:32:22- Ta-dah!- That looks sick.

0:32:22 > 0:32:27- Does it look all right?- Yeah, it looks good...and it works well with your nose piercing.

0:32:28 > 0:32:30TEENAGER-ESQUE: Ah, yeah, like, whatever.

0:32:30 > 0:32:33- Yeah, good?- Yeah!- OK, wicked. Great.

0:32:33 > 0:32:36What are the rules your mum has set in place for tonight?

0:32:37 > 0:32:39Don't come home drunk or lean.

0:32:41 > 0:32:44- Drunk or lean?- High, on drugs.

0:32:44 > 0:32:47Oh, God, I feel like your grandma. GRANNY-ESQUE: "What does lean mean?"

0:32:47 > 0:32:49Nah, most people don't know.

0:32:49 > 0:32:53- OK, so, no smoking pot and no drinking.- Mmm-hmm.

0:32:53 > 0:32:55How do you think that's going to go?

0:32:57 > 0:32:58Not well!

0:32:58 > 0:33:04It's like watching a car crash about to happen and I'm, kind of, stuck in the middle of it.

0:33:04 > 0:33:09I just hope tonight doesn't go as badly as I think it's going to go.

0:33:09 > 0:33:13I'm picking you up at quarter past 11. The gig finishes at 11.

0:33:13 > 0:33:17I expect you to be in the car, at the back of McDonald's,

0:33:17 > 0:33:21- at a quarter past 11.- OK. - And no drinking or smoking.- I know.

0:33:21 > 0:33:22OK.

0:33:22 > 0:33:25ABI GIGGLES

0:33:25 > 0:33:28- Can I go now?- I suppose.

0:33:38 > 0:33:42I've literally never seen so many teenagers in one spot, in my life.

0:33:42 > 0:33:45Suddenly, they've just gathered!

0:33:46 > 0:33:51There's no cannabis in sight, but an older boy has bought Abi a bottle of vodka

0:33:51 > 0:33:55and she wants to neck as much as she can before going into the gig, where she won't be able to drink.

0:33:57 > 0:33:59Can you drink it straight out the bottle?

0:33:59 > 0:34:00Apparently, yes.

0:34:01 > 0:34:05- It tastes a bit grim, to be honest, but I can do it.- Is it worth it?

0:34:05 > 0:34:07Yes, without a doubt, it's worth it.

0:34:07 > 0:34:09What do you want out of tonight?

0:34:09 > 0:34:12Tonight, I want to get as...

0:34:12 > 0:34:15Have as much fun as possible and get fairly drunk,

0:34:15 > 0:34:17because it's been a while.

0:34:17 > 0:34:21I've had a break, I've been grounded, it's been a while. I want fun.

0:34:21 > 0:34:24Grounding Abi doesn't seem to have taught her anything.

0:34:24 > 0:34:27In fact, she's seems even more determined to have a blow-out.

0:34:27 > 0:34:31THEY CALL OUT AND SWEAR

0:34:40 > 0:34:43She's definitely off on one, isn't she?

0:34:43 > 0:34:47Yeah, she doesn't know her limit, really, I don't think.

0:34:49 > 0:34:50I burped!

0:34:50 > 0:34:55- Is that normal?- Erm, that's quite about normal for her.

0:34:55 > 0:34:58You're a fucking muppet, where the fuck are you?

0:35:00 > 0:35:02DEAFENING ROCK MUSIC

0:35:02 > 0:35:08The gig's in full swing, but the girls have been refused entry and I'm starting to wonder

0:35:08 > 0:35:12what Lindsay would think if she knew that the ground rules were being flaunted.

0:35:12 > 0:35:15- Are you worried about her finding out?- Where the fuck is my phone?

0:35:15 > 0:35:18No, well, yeah, but, you know.

0:35:19 > 0:35:21Do you think she'll be cross?

0:35:21 > 0:35:24- Of course she'll be cross. She's a bitch.- Do you care?

0:35:24 > 0:35:29No, well, yeah, I do care, because if I'm really, really drunk...

0:35:29 > 0:35:36But mind you, I've got... two, three hours to sober up,

0:35:36 > 0:35:38because they took my fucking alcohol,

0:35:38 > 0:35:42so I really don't give a shit, because I'll be sober by then, with any luck.

0:35:42 > 0:35:43Oh, my God, there's Kirsty.

0:35:43 > 0:35:47JAMIE! Can I have a hug?

0:35:47 > 0:35:49Who said my name?

0:35:49 > 0:35:52Oh, it was Charlie. Fuck me!

0:35:52 > 0:35:56So she's basically going to hang around outside

0:35:56 > 0:36:01for three hours, on the streets, pissed.

0:36:01 > 0:36:03The thought of Coco hanging around

0:36:03 > 0:36:10in a busy town, completely wasted, for three hours on her own...

0:36:13 > 0:36:15I'd want to lock her in a cupboard.

0:36:18 > 0:36:24I'd agreed not to take sides, but it's proving increasingly difficult not to,

0:36:24 > 0:36:26especially since the venue have called the police.

0:36:26 > 0:36:28Oh, fuck.

0:36:28 > 0:36:30- Abi, are you all right?- I'm fine.

0:36:30 > 0:36:36- What's going on, mate?- Can you just leave me, because if I get told off then my mum's going to kill me.

0:36:36 > 0:36:39- I need to take some details off you first.- No!

0:36:39 > 0:36:41- Listen.- No, you need to listen.

0:36:41 > 0:36:45We've had a call from the club, because of concerns for your welfare,

0:36:45 > 0:36:47so I need to get some details and get it sorted.

0:36:47 > 0:36:53- I can't just leave you. You're underage and you've had a drink. - No, I'm fine, don't ring my parents!

0:36:53 > 0:36:58- I'm not going to ring your parents. Can you make sure someone picks her up?- I'm sorry.

0:36:58 > 0:37:01No, don't be sorry, just trying to make sure you get home safe.

0:37:05 > 0:37:09- Where the FUCK is my vodka? - They took it away.

0:37:09 > 0:37:14You WANKERS! I hate you. I hate you.

0:37:17 > 0:37:22With Abi now unable to even stand up, I make the difficult decision to call Lindsay.

0:37:22 > 0:37:25Hi, Lindsay, it's Cherry.

0:37:25 > 0:37:29I thought I'd just call you. Things have gone a little bit pear shaped.

0:37:30 > 0:37:32Abi's not in a good shape.

0:37:39 > 0:37:41That's her.

0:37:52 > 0:37:53Abi, get in the car.

0:38:05 > 0:38:08On one hand, I think, I think Abi's a teenager,

0:38:08 > 0:38:16loads of the other kids are drinking and going wild and...that's what teenagers do,

0:38:16 > 0:38:19but on the other hand, I feel frustrated,

0:38:19 > 0:38:23because I think, "Abi, you know, this is your last chance.

0:38:23 > 0:38:26"Your mum's trusted you to go out...

0:38:29 > 0:38:31"..and you've really broken that trust tonight."

0:38:33 > 0:38:39After seeing Abi rebel, I am really lost as to how us mums

0:38:39 > 0:38:42can keep our kids on the straight and narrow, or if it's even possible.

0:38:42 > 0:38:45Perhaps the only way to stop teens rebelling

0:38:45 > 0:38:49is to trust our kids to make their own decisions, from day one.

0:38:57 > 0:39:00Brighton, the home of all things eccentric and alternative.

0:39:00 > 0:39:04It's a place where anything goes and no-one bats an eyelid.

0:39:04 > 0:39:09I'm here to meet Kate Magic, a vegan food writer who tries to foster

0:39:09 > 0:39:14a stress-free, happy home for her three boys.

0:39:14 > 0:39:16Hello. Are you Kate?

0:39:16 > 0:39:17Nice to meet you.

0:39:24 > 0:39:27It's amazingly calm in your house this morning.

0:39:28 > 0:39:30You've got three kids!

0:39:30 > 0:39:33- How is that possible? - It doesn't usually stay like this.

0:39:33 > 0:39:38We just wake up naturally, usually around 9 o'clock.

0:39:38 > 0:39:40They can just choose when they wake up?

0:39:40 > 0:39:43It's really important to start the day without stress.

0:39:43 > 0:39:47How have the kids responded to having a more relaxed morning and no alarm clocks?

0:39:47 > 0:39:50Sometimes they're too relaxed!

0:39:50 > 0:39:55They're really happy and so I have to work to try and get them to focus

0:39:55 > 0:39:58and remember that there is stuff to do during the day,

0:39:58 > 0:40:01because they wake up and every day's a holiday.

0:40:01 > 0:40:07Ethan and Zac are allowed to wake up when they want to because mum Kate home schools them,

0:40:07 > 0:40:13and under her ethos, the school day begins with the least stressful lesson - colouring in.

0:40:13 > 0:40:18- So is this a normal typical day in your household?- Yeah, this is how they usually start.

0:40:18 > 0:40:20- Quite gentle.- Nice.

0:40:20 > 0:40:25I think, if you said to them, let's do maths first, they'd probably be really resistant.

0:40:25 > 0:40:27Do monkeys have whiskers or not?

0:40:27 > 0:40:29I don't think so.

0:40:29 > 0:40:35An estimated 50,000 British kids are home-schooled and it's becoming ever more popular.

0:40:35 > 0:40:40In Kate's unique take on it, lessons include tidying their rooms

0:40:40 > 0:40:45and washing up - chores which she sees as key to teaching self-discipline.

0:40:45 > 0:40:49It's only in the afternoon that traditional learning begins.

0:40:49 > 0:40:51But what's the number in category four?

0:40:51 > 0:40:53- 41.- Very good.

0:40:53 > 0:40:58So in total, every day, how much academic work do you think

0:40:58 > 0:41:01they'd be able to really do, like properly focus on?

0:41:01 > 0:41:05Their patience really wears thin after half an hour.

0:41:05 > 0:41:08I can't really get much more than half an hour out of them,

0:41:08 > 0:41:11then they need a break, something else, then come back to it.

0:41:11 > 0:41:17Kate believes in kids' independence, and 13-year-old son Reuben is even allowed to manage his own education.

0:41:17 > 0:41:22He's chosen to go to a self-learning college most mornings and spends

0:41:22 > 0:41:25much of the rest of his time writing a sci-fi novel.

0:41:25 > 0:41:27So how long is it at the moment?

0:41:27 > 0:41:30- Umm, 95 pages.- God!

0:41:30 > 0:41:34"Something exploded, men dived to the ground, then jumped to their feet

0:41:34 > 0:41:39"and started firing at an unseen enemy. Laser bolts flew off into the smoke.

0:41:39 > 0:41:44"Someone cried out in pain, then another explosion went off, killing soldiers.

0:41:44 > 0:41:48That's great. That's really good! Do you enjoy writing?

0:41:48 > 0:41:52- Yeah, I'd like to get published one day.- Wow!

0:41:52 > 0:41:56I'm genuinely really, really impressed.

0:41:56 > 0:41:58- I'd never... How old are you?- 13.

0:41:58 > 0:42:04I'd never have been able to do this at 13, on my own. I'm so impressed.

0:42:04 > 0:42:08There definitely is something to this independent learning.

0:42:08 > 0:42:10Anyway, I love the outdoor gym.

0:42:18 > 0:42:22This is absolutely the opposite of what my school life was like.

0:42:22 > 0:42:24Right now, I'd have been in double French,

0:42:24 > 0:42:27definitely wouldn't have been by the seaside.

0:42:31 > 0:42:34After a blast of fresh air, I'm in need of a coffee.

0:42:34 > 0:42:39Sadly, it's only healthy living wheatgrass on offer.

0:42:39 > 0:42:42Urgh, that's really disgusting.

0:42:42 > 0:42:45OK, ready, steady, go.

0:42:48 > 0:42:50Urgh, that is so gross.

0:42:50 > 0:42:53Eat the strawberry, the strawberry helps.

0:42:58 > 0:42:59What was your education like?

0:42:59 > 0:43:05I went to a private girl's school which was very strict and very, very academic.

0:43:05 > 0:43:09At assembly, we had to all kneel down to check our skirts were regulation length.

0:43:09 > 0:43:11We even had regulation knickers.

0:43:13 > 0:43:15You had to wear grey knickers.

0:43:15 > 0:43:20So even your pants had to be regulated?!

0:43:20 > 0:43:24If you want to be a doctor or a lawyer or something like that,

0:43:24 > 0:43:27then that is the education you need, but that's the minority, isn't it?

0:43:27 > 0:43:31And, for anyone else, it was just really intense.

0:43:31 > 0:43:36Do you worry that, although you're giving your kids these wonderful life skills,

0:43:36 > 0:43:39the qualifications won't necessarily be there?

0:43:39 > 0:43:45Are you worried that one day they'll come up against a brick wall where they need the qualifications?

0:43:45 > 0:43:48No-one's ever asked me how many O-Levels I've got. It doesn't matter that I've

0:43:48 > 0:43:54got a load, because it's never been something I've needed to use, so I don't feel its important for them.

0:43:54 > 0:43:56I think the two most important things

0:43:56 > 0:44:01are good manners and eating your vegetables, do you know what I mean?

0:44:01 > 0:44:03To me that is the most important thing - that they're nice people.

0:44:05 > 0:44:09Personally, there are some things I really love about Kate's parenting style.

0:44:09 > 0:44:14I love that she's so close to her children and wants to be part of their lives and understand them.

0:44:14 > 0:44:18'Maybe I'm a bit more traditional than I realise I am,'

0:44:18 > 0:44:22because I think for me, Kate's parenting style

0:44:22 > 0:44:26is a bit too alternative and wouldn't suit me, particularly.

0:44:32 > 0:44:37Whenever I've been away from Coco, I'm desperate to give her a hug and kiss,

0:44:37 > 0:44:41which makes coming home late hard to bear.

0:44:50 > 0:44:55As much as I love wine, it is a poor substitute for a cuddle.

0:44:56 > 0:45:00I mean, I don't want to say it to its face. I feel bad, but, yeah.

0:45:05 > 0:45:06Mummy's little helper!

0:45:10 > 0:45:17When I am with Coco, I always prioritise doing fun things together and keeping a smile on her face.

0:45:17 > 0:45:23But if I want her to do well in the future, am I holding her back by not pushing her more?

0:45:25 > 0:45:31I've come to the City of London to meet Emily Apple, a grade A motivated mum, who has

0:45:31 > 0:45:37already mapped out her daughter's futures to the best universities and the best possible careers.

0:45:37 > 0:45:40- Hello.- Hi, Cherry, I'm Emily.

0:45:40 > 0:45:41Nice to meet you.

0:45:41 > 0:45:48- How competitive are you? - I can't help but be competitive.

0:45:48 > 0:45:53You want your child performing better than everybody else. I think it's a natural instinct.

0:45:53 > 0:45:57Even if I think my child was born a week early and your child was born a week late,

0:45:57 > 0:46:02so my child's two weeks older than yours, even at that stage, there's a comparison.

0:46:02 > 0:46:06My child was crawling or was able to sit unaided at five months,

0:46:06 > 0:46:09whereas Billy down the road, he was only seven months.

0:46:09 > 0:46:12At every stage of a child's life, you can't help but look

0:46:12 > 0:46:15at your peers and see what their child was doing at the same age.

0:46:15 > 0:46:19I would be willing to trade some of their happiness for good grades.

0:46:19 > 0:46:22'Wow, that's quite a confession,'

0:46:22 > 0:46:24'but not that surprising considering her achievements.'

0:46:24 > 0:46:28I went to Oxford University and studied maths.

0:46:28 > 0:46:33- I actually got into Oxford when I was 16.- Oh, my God! What?! - Yeah, I peaked at 16!

0:46:33 > 0:46:38That's amazing. When I was 16, I was trying to work out which one of Take That I really wanted to snog.

0:46:38 > 0:46:39Oh, I did that, as well!

0:46:42 > 0:46:49Emily is a force of nature. She is fiercely competitive and used to success and achievement.

0:46:49 > 0:46:56The question I want to know is, how does Emily's children respond to that type of focus?

0:46:56 > 0:46:59Is it a negative thing or is it productive?

0:47:03 > 0:47:08It's Sunday and whilst five-year-old Yael is at a four-hour Hebrew class,

0:47:08 > 0:47:14Emily's attentions are focussed on her 18-month-old daughter, Roni.

0:47:14 > 0:47:16- What does a cow do?- Moo.

0:47:16 > 0:47:18Moo, very good.

0:47:18 > 0:47:20'Already, she's able to complete puzzles

0:47:20 > 0:47:23'and match animal noises to pictures.'

0:47:23 > 0:47:25APPLAUSE AND CHEERS

0:47:25 > 0:47:28I'm, literally, ridiculously impressed.

0:47:28 > 0:47:32Coco would never have done that, in a million years.

0:47:32 > 0:47:36How many times do you think she would have had to have done this before she gets to this level?

0:47:36 > 0:47:39I've probably done it with her 15, 20 times.

0:47:40 > 0:47:45I'm more impressed that she can match them together, because that took a bit of training.

0:47:45 > 0:47:48What do you think drives you to be a hands-on mum?

0:47:48 > 0:47:54Nobody gives you a tree diagram, when a child is born, of what to do to get them through various hoops,

0:47:54 > 0:47:57to get them to whatever outcome you're aiming for.

0:47:57 > 0:48:00My biggest worry is missing a step and that being really crucial.

0:48:00 > 0:48:02Is it stressful?

0:48:02 > 0:48:04Yeah, I try not to think about it too much.

0:48:06 > 0:48:11Emily is so passionate about achievement that she's enrolling

0:48:11 > 0:48:15five-year-old Yael on Kumon, extra curricular maths and English tutorial classes.

0:48:15 > 0:48:19- I've come to her first assessment. - Hello. Hi, how are you?

0:48:19 > 0:48:22Nice to see you, and who are you?

0:48:22 > 0:48:27- Yael.- Nice to meet you. It's quite a significant thing you're doing.

0:48:27 > 0:48:29Yeah, it's hardcore brain training, so I'm told,

0:48:29 > 0:48:33so lets see what that's all about.

0:48:33 > 0:48:40One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight...

0:48:40 > 0:48:44In addition to her full-time school-work, Kumon will involve

0:48:44 > 0:48:47two extra tutorials per week, as well as homework every single day.

0:48:47 > 0:48:50..18, 19, 20.

0:48:50 > 0:48:52Fantastic. What comes after 20?

0:48:52 > 0:48:5821, 22, 23, 24...

0:48:58 > 0:49:03It's quite a bit commitment, it's two classes a week and homework pretty much every day.

0:49:03 > 0:49:06Are you prepared to make that kind of commitment?

0:49:06 > 0:49:08Yeah, I want to do it straight away.

0:49:08 > 0:49:11Give me the homework straight away, because I can only see the benefits.

0:49:11 > 0:49:14Two plus one equals...

0:49:14 > 0:49:20- What does it equal? - Erm... I don't know.- Yes, you do.

0:49:20 > 0:49:26You hear so much this days about how hard it is to get a job, how hard it is to get anywhere in life, how,

0:49:26 > 0:49:31with inflation going up and salaries not going up and life is really tough, and the more I hear this,

0:49:31 > 0:49:36the more I want to give my daughter, as much as I possibly can, the very best grounding.

0:49:36 > 0:49:41If she's a willing candidate, why not load it on? Bring it on, that really is my attitude.

0:49:41 > 0:49:47Yael is one busy young girl, with ballet, swimming, Saturday and Sunday school,

0:49:47 > 0:49:52as well as these new sessions of Kumon, and I wonder if there is literally enough time in each day.

0:49:52 > 0:49:57Do you feel like the commitment Yael's going to make to Kumon

0:49:57 > 0:50:01is a big sacrifice for her, is she going to miss out on other things?

0:50:01 > 0:50:03I don't think so, I don't feel she's missing out.

0:50:03 > 0:50:05I think she gets pleasure from doing that sort of task.

0:50:05 > 0:50:12There are many hours in a day and to sit down for 10 or 15 minutes doing that is just 10 or 15 minutes

0:50:12 > 0:50:16less time of her pottering about with her toys. It's not meaning she can't play until Sunday.

0:50:16 > 0:50:21Emily is a self-confessed pushy mum.

0:50:21 > 0:50:27My only worry is, later down the line, with such high expectations on

0:50:27 > 0:50:33her children and herself, if things go wrong and they are not academic,

0:50:33 > 0:50:39how are they going to cope with that pressure and how is she going to cope with them not making the grade?

0:50:41 > 0:50:47I love Emily's dedication to her daughters and her competitive spirit has really rubbed off on me,

0:50:47 > 0:50:50so if you can't beat 'em, you've got to join 'em.

0:50:50 > 0:50:55A, B, C, D, E, F, G...

0:50:55 > 0:51:02I'm quite passive but, when you meet another mum like Emily, you do start to worry - am I doing enough?

0:51:02 > 0:51:07Am I being proactive enough? Is my child getting enough stimulation?

0:51:08 > 0:51:10Are you ready for your exams now?

0:51:10 > 0:51:11Yeah.

0:51:16 > 0:51:20In Rugby, Lindsay and Abi's relationship is now at rock bottom

0:51:20 > 0:51:24after she broke her promise not to get drunk at her gig on Friday.

0:51:24 > 0:51:31Lindsay's decided to try a mediation session as a last resort to rebuild their relationship.

0:51:31 > 0:51:34We're not on the best terms again, we're not even talking

0:51:34 > 0:51:38and stuff like that, so I kind of regret getting so drunk,

0:51:38 > 0:51:43but I had fun, so, you know, it happens.

0:51:45 > 0:51:48I don't know how

0:51:48 > 0:51:50really how to get past it. I'm so angry.

0:51:53 > 0:51:58I don't know, I can't even trust her to leave the house.

0:52:05 > 0:52:11All she cares about is herself and I don't know how you're meant to parent that, really.

0:52:13 > 0:52:19It'd be really good for the purposes of this session if we can try and keep it quite positive.

0:52:19 > 0:52:25Because I bet we could probably spend a couple of hours just moaning about each other.

0:52:25 > 0:52:31- Do you actually want to get better at listening, would that be a good thing?- Yeah.

0:52:31 > 0:52:33What about you, Lindsay?

0:52:33 > 0:52:35It just goes back to the truth, doesn't it?

0:52:35 > 0:52:40There's no point listening if you know what you're being told isn't the truth.

0:52:40 > 0:52:44What did you say to me on Friday?

0:52:45 > 0:52:48Can you not see why I'm so upset today?

0:52:51 > 0:52:56You promised me so many things on Friday,

0:52:56 > 0:52:59like you have done in the past, and you just threw it back at me

0:52:59 > 0:53:02and I don't know how we're meant to move on from that.

0:53:02 > 0:53:04LINDSAY SOBS

0:53:06 > 0:53:10I'm not going to do it again. I'm not stupid.

0:53:10 > 0:53:13But I don't understand why you did it in the first place.

0:53:13 > 0:53:17Because I'd been stuck in the house for two weeks.

0:53:18 > 0:53:21I wanted to see my mates and have some fun, for a change.

0:53:21 > 0:53:25But you didn't, did you? You were out for three hours and you got

0:53:25 > 0:53:30so paralytic that I had to pick you up from the street.

0:53:32 > 0:53:35I really seriously don't see the point of this.

0:53:35 > 0:53:39I just want to go home and find myself somewhere else to live.

0:53:42 > 0:53:45I'm sorry, I don't want to do this any more.

0:53:54 > 0:53:56I found that incredibly difficult to watch

0:53:56 > 0:53:58and I felt really upset for both Abi and Lindsay.

0:53:58 > 0:54:04There's so much pain between them and, obviously,

0:54:04 > 0:54:06it is hugely overwhelming for Lindsay.

0:54:06 > 0:54:10Sometimes you just want to run away, don't you?

0:54:10 > 0:54:13And sometimes that's a good thing to do.

0:54:16 > 0:54:19Yeah, I just needed some space.

0:54:20 > 0:54:25After 20 minutes, Lindsay's decided to give the session another shot.

0:54:25 > 0:54:29Mum's in tears, you're fed up,

0:54:29 > 0:54:31there's nothing to be said for this at all, is there?

0:54:31 > 0:54:36But there's everything to play for, if you start to break these patterns of behaviour between you.

0:54:36 > 0:54:42Apart from today, when was the last time you two got some time together to do something?

0:54:42 > 0:54:43A while ago.

0:54:43 > 0:54:45Yeah, it is really, isn't it?

0:54:47 > 0:54:50If you could go and do something, what would you like to do?

0:54:52 > 0:54:54To that tree top place, you know?

0:54:54 > 0:54:56Oh, yeah, that'd be cool.

0:54:56 > 0:54:59And how committed are you to making that happen?

0:54:59 > 0:55:01Yeah, we can do that.

0:55:01 > 0:55:03Get somebody to look after Luke.

0:55:05 > 0:55:10It sounds to me like it would be really great for both of you to have some time together.

0:55:13 > 0:55:19'I think one of the things that I've learnt is pick your battles.'

0:55:19 > 0:55:22Yes, it's your duty as a parent to make sure they're safe,

0:55:22 > 0:55:26but actually, if the relationship is not there, you can't discipline them.

0:55:26 > 0:55:29Can I actually ask you to give each other a hug?

0:55:32 > 0:55:35Lindsay and Abi clearly love each other

0:55:35 > 0:55:40and I really hope that they stay dedicated to rebuilding the trust.

0:55:44 > 0:55:47Hello! Hello, bubba!

0:55:50 > 0:55:53Hello! Give Mummy a cuddle.

0:55:54 > 0:56:00From meeting the mums, one of the things I've learnt is that motherhood isn't easy.

0:56:00 > 0:56:03It is wonderful, but it is full of challenges.

0:56:03 > 0:56:08I think part of the challenge of being a mum is that you love this little thing with all of your heart,

0:56:08 > 0:56:15but at the same time, part of your job is to equip them to live their own life, to grow up,

0:56:15 > 0:56:19to be independent, to have their own thoughts, and, in a way, that goes against

0:56:19 > 0:56:24the really strong instinct of wanting to keep them close and protect them.

0:56:24 > 0:56:28And I think that's a really tough challenge for a mum.

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