0:00:02 > 0:00:03Coming up, three celebs become 12 again.
0:00:03 > 0:00:06Everybody would be singing that in the playground.
0:00:06 > 0:00:10She looked in my eyes and went, "Your pupils are really dilated!"
0:00:10 > 0:00:12Accept your nerd status.
0:00:12 > 0:00:16Plus, we find out what X Factor winner Matt Cardle
0:00:16 > 0:00:17was like when he was 12.
0:00:17 > 0:00:20It's just freaky and very awkward.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22Want to know more?
0:00:22 > 0:00:25# Oo-wee Chirpa-chirpa-cheep-cheep. #
0:00:25 > 0:00:26I do now.
0:00:26 > 0:00:29Have you ever wondered what it would have been like
0:00:29 > 0:00:32to be best mates with your favourite celebs when they were your age?
0:00:32 > 0:00:36What did they get up to? What were their favourite songs?
0:00:36 > 0:00:38And what TV shows did they watch?
0:00:38 > 0:00:42Because despite the glamorous lifestyles they now lead,
0:00:42 > 0:00:46once they were a kid with a dream, just like you.
0:00:46 > 0:00:49This show lets you look back in time with your favourite celebs
0:00:49 > 0:00:52as they become 12 again.
0:00:57 > 0:00:59# It's a new day new start, new scene... #
0:00:59 > 0:01:04If you get detention, this is a guy you definitely want to see at 4pm.
0:01:04 > 0:01:09And back in 1990, Ben Smith knew exactly what he wanted to be.
0:01:09 > 0:01:10I always just wanted to be famous.
0:01:10 > 0:01:14Always have that feeling I could do something special people would love.
0:01:14 > 0:01:16I always felt I was going to be an entertainer.
0:01:16 > 0:01:18Come on, Gaby, here we go.
0:01:18 > 0:01:21She's one of the UK's leading TV and sports presenters,
0:01:21 > 0:01:23who on a Saturday likes to give you the final score.
0:01:23 > 0:01:25Hello. Welcome to Final Score.
0:01:25 > 0:01:28Europe has interfered a little bit with the Saturday line-up.
0:01:28 > 0:01:29But back in 1985,
0:01:29 > 0:01:34Gabby Logan was sporting her own talent as a gymnast.
0:01:34 > 0:01:36I think I probably was unusual in my focus,
0:01:36 > 0:01:38and when I decided I wanted to do something,
0:01:38 > 0:01:41whether I was doing gymnastics, I wanted to be in the national squad,
0:01:41 > 0:01:44that was what I put my energy and endeavours into.
0:01:44 > 0:01:47It's funky, it's new, it's different.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50He is the cheekiest dragon there is in the den.
0:01:50 > 0:01:53You are totally barking mad.
0:01:53 > 0:01:58But back in 1972, Theo Paphitis was, well, pretty much the same.
0:01:58 > 0:02:01I was cheeky, I was naughty, adventurous.
0:02:01 > 0:02:03I was just a 12-year-old little boy,
0:02:03 > 0:02:07um...wondering what it was all about.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13All are massive celebs today, but it wasn't always that way.
0:02:13 > 0:02:15So let's rewind and find out everything
0:02:15 > 0:02:18about what they were like when they were kids.
0:02:18 > 0:02:19I was quite chubby.
0:02:19 > 0:02:23People called me "Care Bear". Girls would "like" you
0:02:23 > 0:02:26in the same way they like, you know, a teddy bear.
0:02:26 > 0:02:29Because I did gymnastics, I was always very lean
0:02:29 > 0:02:32and I didn't really develop shape so much at that age.
0:02:32 > 0:02:35My hair - first of all, it was plenty.
0:02:35 > 0:02:38Secondly, and sadly,
0:02:38 > 0:02:40it was always cut by my mother.
0:02:40 > 0:02:44My main clothing was tracksuits and leotards. I would rather spend money
0:02:44 > 0:02:46on an amazing leotard than have money
0:02:46 > 0:02:48on a piece of clothing that I really, really wanted.
0:02:48 > 0:02:50I was a hairy kid.
0:02:50 > 0:02:52I was so horrified by it,
0:02:52 > 0:02:56I used my sister's cream on my right leg that would remove hair.
0:02:56 > 0:03:01As soon as I did it, I instinctively knew it was such a bad mistake
0:03:01 > 0:03:03and actually, I didn't do the other leg
0:03:03 > 0:03:06but then I was faced with the dilemma
0:03:06 > 0:03:09of having one hairy leg and one smooth bald leg.
0:03:09 > 0:03:12Some of my friends at school had started to wear a bra.
0:03:12 > 0:03:15And...really nervous and embarrassed about it
0:03:15 > 0:03:18and didn't want to talk to my mum about it.
0:03:18 > 0:03:20We were on a family holiday
0:03:20 > 0:03:22and she let my dad take me for a walk on the beach
0:03:22 > 0:03:25and discuss the fact that they had discussed with each other
0:03:25 > 0:03:26that I needed to wear a bra.
0:03:26 > 0:03:28I don't think there could be
0:03:28 > 0:03:31a more embarrassing conversation between father and daughter.
0:03:31 > 0:03:34Eh, no, I think you're right there, Gaby.
0:03:34 > 0:03:38So, other than being horrifically embarrassed by their dads
0:03:38 > 0:03:41and having one bald leg, what else did they get up to as kids?
0:03:41 > 0:03:44Home consisted of getting your own dinner
0:03:44 > 0:03:47and cleaning the house and getting the washing done,
0:03:47 > 0:03:50and the ironing done, because mum would be at work
0:03:50 > 0:03:54and as a kid, you deal with it, you get on with it,
0:03:54 > 0:03:56and that's exactly what I did.
0:03:59 > 0:04:01I was a bit of a nerd.
0:04:01 > 0:04:03But I loved drama.
0:04:03 > 0:04:06I think it helped me, like, sort of come out of my shell.
0:04:06 > 0:04:09If I was playing a character that I perceived to be cooler
0:04:09 > 0:04:12or more interesting than me personally, as a real human being,
0:04:12 > 0:04:16I think it helped me, you know, build in confidence a little bit.
0:04:16 > 0:04:19Whilst Ben was finding his confidence,
0:04:19 > 0:04:24Gabby was doing anything she could to get some attention in class.
0:04:24 > 0:04:26I remember tying myself to my chair with my school tie
0:04:26 > 0:04:29or getting someone to do it, and then I'd move around the classroom
0:04:29 > 0:04:32- so when the teacher turned, I was in a different place.- OK...
0:04:32 > 0:04:34I also had a bit of a penchant at this point
0:04:34 > 0:04:38for putting Tipp-ex all over my tongue, and when the teacher turned,
0:04:38 > 0:04:40showing my classmates, who burst out laughing.
0:04:40 > 0:04:43then the teacher would turn and I'd put my tongue back in my mouth.
0:04:43 > 0:04:46Don't try it at home. Don't put Tipp-ex on your tongue.
0:04:46 > 0:04:48It doesn't work. It doesn't taste good.
0:04:48 > 0:04:50Right, I'm glad you said that, Mrs Troublemaker.
0:04:50 > 0:04:55Let me reiterate, do not try that at home unless you're very stupid.
0:04:55 > 0:04:59In London, however, school for multi-millionaire Theo
0:04:59 > 0:05:01wasn't so easy.
0:05:01 > 0:05:03For me, 12 was a really uncertain time.
0:05:03 > 0:05:05I really didn't know where I was going.
0:05:05 > 0:05:07School was terrible,
0:05:07 > 0:05:11and the basic reason was, I couldn't cope with the work.
0:05:12 > 0:05:15I discovered much later that I was dyslexic.
0:05:15 > 0:05:20But the one thing that came really easy at school was numbers.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23I would be at the bottom of every subject at school,
0:05:23 > 0:05:27except when it came to numbers, I'd be in the top class.
0:05:27 > 0:05:30As Theo found school life a struggle at 12,
0:05:30 > 0:05:34for Ben, a family event had a big impact on his home life.
0:05:34 > 0:05:36My parents getting divorced,
0:05:36 > 0:05:40it has such an amazing, fundamental impact on any child.
0:05:40 > 0:05:45Arguments and unpleasantness, that is not nice for little kids,
0:05:45 > 0:05:47so when they actually separated,
0:05:47 > 0:05:50all of a sudden, yeah, it's sad for a marriage to come to an end,
0:05:50 > 0:05:54but it's peace, it's peace. It's peace when I go to visit my dad.
0:05:54 > 0:05:56There's peace at home with my mum,
0:05:56 > 0:05:59so the whole idea that a family is
0:05:59 > 0:06:03a mum, a dad and a son and a daughter and a dog is nonsense.
0:06:03 > 0:06:05If they love you and look after you
0:06:05 > 0:06:09and there's love and warmth within that house, then that is a family.
0:06:10 > 0:06:12OK, let's find out what music
0:06:12 > 0:06:15our celebs were listening to when they were kids.
0:06:15 > 0:06:17# Change this lonely life... #
0:06:17 > 0:06:19A big song at that time was
0:06:19 > 0:06:21Foreigner's I Want To Know What Love Is.
0:06:21 > 0:06:24# I want to know what love is
0:06:28 > 0:06:31# I want you to show me... #
0:06:31 > 0:06:34Oof! It makes me feel all tingly thinking about it now.
0:06:34 > 0:06:36Me too, Gabby.
0:06:36 > 0:06:41Foreigner were a band made up of both British and American musicians
0:06:41 > 0:06:43so I guess they were technically foreign to each other.
0:06:43 > 0:06:48In the '80s, they were one of many bands who ROCKED - but softly.
0:06:48 > 0:06:50Men could wear really tight trousers
0:06:50 > 0:06:53and really tight vests and leather jackets and long hair...
0:06:53 > 0:06:55Hit it, CC.
0:06:57 > 0:07:02..and yet, were seen as being kind of these models of masculinity
0:07:02 > 0:07:05and what I've just described doesn't sound like that, but they were.
0:07:05 > 0:07:06Indeed they were, Gabby.
0:07:06 > 0:07:09The '80s were all about rock.
0:07:09 > 0:07:12Rock and men, and some of them happened to wear a lot of make-up.
0:07:12 > 0:07:17Nothing wrong with that, but some of them took it a little too far.
0:07:17 > 0:07:18Exhibit A...
0:07:19 > 0:07:22# We're not gonna take it! #
0:07:22 > 0:07:25But it wasn't just their looks that made them big.
0:07:25 > 0:07:29Their songs were also massive, almost as big as their hair.
0:07:29 > 0:07:32# Might as well jump. Jump!
0:07:32 > 0:07:34# Might as well jump... #
0:07:34 > 0:07:36And bands like Van Halen, Bon Jovi
0:07:36 > 0:07:40and Whitesnake ruled the world with their big singalong anthems.
0:07:40 > 0:07:43There's something quite soothing about soft rock.
0:07:43 > 0:07:45A lot of people pretend they don't like it,
0:07:45 > 0:07:49but deep down, they have a little soft spot for a bit of soft rock.
0:07:49 > 0:07:51Let's leave Gabby loving the soft rock
0:07:51 > 0:07:55and find out what Ben was listening to in the early '90s.
0:07:55 > 0:07:57I was listening to stuff like hip-hop music.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00A Tribe Called Quest had a song called Can I Kick It?
0:08:00 > 0:08:02- # Can I kick it?- Yes, you can
0:08:02 > 0:08:05- # Can I kick it?- Yes, you can... #
0:08:05 > 0:08:07Everything about it just made you smile.
0:08:07 > 0:08:09It had a really summery vibe to it.
0:08:09 > 0:08:12It just spoke to you in a way, it really spoke to you.
0:08:12 > 0:08:16This song was one of the big summer hits of the early '90s.
0:08:16 > 0:08:19A Tribe Called Quest and other hip-hop groups like De La Soul
0:08:19 > 0:08:22were part of a new jazzy version of rap...
0:08:22 > 0:08:24# Mirror, mirror on the wall... #
0:08:24 > 0:08:26..which was much more positive than the gangsta rap
0:08:26 > 0:08:29which had been coming out of America before then.
0:08:29 > 0:08:33The summer of 1990, it was the first time I remember
0:08:33 > 0:08:38really hearing the basis of hip-hop beats in pop music.
0:08:40 > 0:08:44However, one song from Ben's record collection isn't quite as cool.
0:08:44 > 0:08:49One of the first seven-inches I ever bought was this one - Turtle Power.
0:08:49 > 0:08:51# They didn't say we'd be there in half an hour
0:08:51 > 0:08:54# Cos they displayed turtle power
0:08:54 > 0:08:56# T-U-R-T-L-E power...
0:08:56 > 0:08:58# T-U-R-T-L-E power... #
0:08:58 > 0:09:01If you're wondering what the heck these guys are,
0:09:01 > 0:09:05they're mutated turtles who would run around New York eating pizza
0:09:05 > 0:09:07and beating up bad guys,
0:09:07 > 0:09:09led by a mutated rat.
0:09:11 > 0:09:14Sounds odd, but this song was from the biggest movie of 1990.
0:09:14 > 0:09:18The Turtles and the rat ruled.
0:09:18 > 0:09:21In the same way that A Tribe Called Quest, the guys rapping on it
0:09:21 > 0:09:24sounded like excitable kids, just like we were...
0:09:24 > 0:09:26# Cos they possess turtle power...
0:09:26 > 0:09:30..Turtle Power sounded like it was sung by your supply teacher,
0:09:30 > 0:09:33trying to rap, you know, and it was just really bad.
0:09:33 > 0:09:36# T-U-R-T-L-E power... #
0:09:36 > 0:09:39So whilst then was harnessing his turtle power in the early '90s...
0:09:41 > 0:09:44Who was Theo's pop idol in the early '70s?
0:09:44 > 0:09:47There were no MP3 downloads in those days
0:09:47 > 0:09:52and my first ever purchased 45
0:09:52 > 0:09:56at the age of 12, and it was a song called
0:09:56 > 0:10:00Chirpa Chirpa Cheep Cheep by Middle Of The Road.
0:10:00 > 0:10:03# Where's your momma gone?
0:10:03 > 0:10:04# Where's your momma gone?
0:10:04 > 0:10:07I don't want to say Middle Of The Road made a song
0:10:07 > 0:10:10that was very "middle of the road". Let's just say
0:10:10 > 0:10:14it won't get a Lifetime Achievement Brit Award any time soon.
0:10:14 > 0:10:18# Last night I heard my momma singing a song
0:10:18 > 0:10:21# Oo-wee, chirpa-chirpa cheep cheep. #
0:10:21 > 0:10:24It was horrendous. It was terrible.
0:10:24 > 0:10:26But anyway, I'd play it for hours and hours and hours.
0:10:26 > 0:10:29So, did Theo's taste in music get any better?
0:10:29 > 0:10:34I soon moved onto the scene, and the scene in those days was
0:10:34 > 0:10:39platform shoes, lairy clothing,
0:10:39 > 0:10:40Elton John.
0:10:40 > 0:10:43# And I think it's going to be a long long time... #
0:10:43 > 0:10:46Crocodile Rock was, by a long chalk,
0:10:46 > 0:10:50the most energetic of Elton John's records.
0:10:50 > 0:10:53# Crocodile rockin' is something shocking
0:10:53 > 0:10:55# When your feet just can't keep still... #
0:10:55 > 0:10:59And everybody would be singing that in the playground.
0:10:59 > 0:11:01And he was really, really cool.
0:11:01 > 0:11:02# La... #
0:11:02 > 0:11:05Reginald Kenneth Dwight, otherwise known as Elton John,
0:11:05 > 0:11:10hit the charts in 1970 and has stayed there for over 40 years.
0:11:12 > 0:11:14He has many famous songs
0:11:14 > 0:11:18and you'll have definitely heard his music in films like The Lion King.
0:11:19 > 0:11:22# In the circle
0:11:24 > 0:11:27# The circle of life... #
0:11:27 > 0:11:31Having sold more than 250 million records,
0:11:31 > 0:11:35he's actually one of the most successful artists of all time.
0:11:37 > 0:11:40Still to come, we catch up with the one and only Matt Cardle
0:11:40 > 0:11:44and find out what he remembers about being 12.
0:11:44 > 0:11:47I was always preparing for some kind of attack.
0:11:47 > 0:11:50And we find out what TV our celebrities were watching
0:11:50 > 0:11:51when they were kids.
0:11:51 > 0:11:55I would see things to aspire to. People to aspire to.
0:11:56 > 0:12:00Essentially, what it was was really quite dangerous obstacles
0:12:00 > 0:12:04that you wouldn't want to run over, let alone ride a motorbike over.
0:12:04 > 0:12:08My mum just got hold of my head and looked at my eyes and she went,
0:12:08 > 0:12:10"Your pupils are really dilated!"
0:12:10 > 0:12:12But first, let's see what new stories
0:12:12 > 0:12:16had a big impact on our celebs when they were 12.
0:12:16 > 0:12:21The release of the political prisoner Nelson Mandela was a big one.
0:12:24 > 0:12:30After 27 years in South African jails, Nelson Mandela is a free man.
0:12:30 > 0:12:33In 1964 in South Africa,
0:12:33 > 0:12:35Nelson Mandela was sentenced to life imprisonment
0:12:35 > 0:12:38for his protests against the government.
0:12:38 > 0:12:40Everybody knew that he'd been in there for ages
0:12:40 > 0:12:42and that he was a nice guy, you know,
0:12:42 > 0:12:46essentially, like someone telling you, "Morgan Freeman's in jail,"
0:12:46 > 0:12:49and you'd just be like, "He must be innocent."
0:12:49 > 0:12:53At the time, South Africa was run under a system called apartheid,
0:12:53 > 0:12:55which discriminated against black people.
0:12:55 > 0:12:58For nearly 50 years, they were forced by law
0:12:58 > 0:13:01to live totally separate lives to those who were white,
0:13:01 > 0:13:04and treated very unfairly.
0:13:04 > 0:13:06My mum did explain it to me,
0:13:06 > 0:13:09the fact that I had a white father and a black mother.
0:13:09 > 0:13:12She explained to me that if we lived in South Africa,
0:13:12 > 0:13:15none of the three of us could live together.
0:13:15 > 0:13:17We'd all be living in different situations,
0:13:17 > 0:13:20because I was light brown, she was dark brown and he was white,
0:13:20 > 0:13:22and that, to me, was just insanity.
0:13:22 > 0:13:26Black people couldn't go to white areas unless they had permission,
0:13:26 > 0:13:30and could be arrested if they didn't have a type of passport
0:13:30 > 0:13:34showing they were allowed to go there. Life was very hard for them.
0:13:34 > 0:13:38She said, the man who is fighting against that, Nelson Mandela,
0:13:38 > 0:13:42he's been put in prison because the people that want life to be that way
0:13:42 > 0:13:44don't want anyone to fight against it,
0:13:44 > 0:13:46so then, you know, you knew that was wrong as well
0:13:46 > 0:13:49and you knew this guy was a hero for fighting against it.
0:13:49 > 0:13:51You rooted for that guy.
0:13:51 > 0:13:53Lots of people across the world
0:13:53 > 0:13:56agreed that Nelson Mandela should be freed,
0:13:56 > 0:14:00and in 1990, after 27 years in prison, he was finally released.
0:14:01 > 0:14:06At 2.15 our time, he walked from the gates of Victor-Verster prison,
0:14:06 > 0:14:08hand in hand with his wife Winnie.
0:14:08 > 0:14:12When Mandela was released, naturally, you felt the ripples around the world
0:14:12 > 0:14:15and amongst black families and mixed-race families too in the UK,
0:14:15 > 0:14:18it meant something, no question, so we were happy.
0:14:18 > 0:14:21In the name of peace,
0:14:21 > 0:14:25democracy and freedom for all...
0:14:25 > 0:14:29Soon after his release, black people were given the right to vote
0:14:29 > 0:14:32and Nelson Mandela was elected the first black president
0:14:32 > 0:14:35of South Africa, in the country's first democratic election.
0:14:36 > 0:14:40Nelson Mandela will always be known for helping to end apartheid
0:14:40 > 0:14:43and has become a symbol for peace and equality for all.
0:14:48 > 0:14:52In the early 1970s, when Theo was 12, there was a huge news story
0:14:52 > 0:14:55that shocked the United States and the world.
0:14:55 > 0:14:59The big news story when I was 12 was Watergate.
0:14:59 > 0:15:03This was one of the biggest American political scandals ever.
0:15:03 > 0:15:07It led to the president, Richard Nixon, resigning from office.
0:15:07 > 0:15:11This is the only time that has ever happened.
0:15:11 > 0:15:14The scandal was called Watergate.
0:15:14 > 0:15:17I have concluded that because of the Watergate matter,
0:15:17 > 0:15:20I shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23To find out what the opposition party were planning
0:15:23 > 0:15:26for the election, the offices at the Watergate Hotel
0:15:26 > 0:15:29were broken into and their telephones were bugged
0:15:29 > 0:15:31so their phone calls could be secretly recorded.
0:15:31 > 0:15:35This was an abuse of their privacy and against the law.
0:15:35 > 0:15:40The president, Richard Nixon, denied knowing anything of the crime.
0:15:40 > 0:15:43People have got to know whether or not their president's a crook.
0:15:43 > 0:15:45Well, I'm not a crook.
0:15:45 > 0:15:50Until evidence proved that he did, despite him trying to cover it up.
0:15:50 > 0:15:54But I know what I meant, and I know also what I did.
0:15:54 > 0:15:58Nixon stood down as president and brought huge shame
0:15:58 > 0:16:00on his political party and himself for lying.
0:16:00 > 0:16:04The leader of the free world, as the president of the United States
0:16:04 > 0:16:07is sometimes known as, is untrustworthy.
0:16:08 > 0:16:10Was huge news.
0:16:10 > 0:16:14The story was so huge the effects are still heard today.
0:16:14 > 0:16:18When there's a scandal, newspapers put 'gate' at the end of the word.
0:16:18 > 0:16:19For example:
0:16:23 > 0:16:24Now you know!
0:16:28 > 0:16:33In 1985, a football disaster had a very personal impact on Gabby
0:16:33 > 0:16:35and her family.
0:16:35 > 0:16:37A big story when I was 12 was the Bradford Fire.
0:16:38 > 0:16:40The fire broke out in the main stand
0:16:40 > 0:16:42at Bradford's Valley Parade ground
0:16:42 > 0:16:45halfway through today's match against Lincoln City.
0:16:45 > 0:16:48The stand was soon ablaze from end to end.
0:16:48 > 0:16:51My dad was coaching at Bradford at the time.
0:16:51 > 0:16:52Should have been a really amazing day.
0:16:52 > 0:16:53They'd won the league
0:16:53 > 0:16:57and it was going to be the big party for the player's families.
0:16:57 > 0:17:00I was sat a few rows away from where the fire actually started
0:17:00 > 0:17:03in the same stand, the stand that burnt down.
0:17:03 > 0:17:07Once the fire had started, it took just four minutes
0:17:07 > 0:17:10for the flames to engulf the entire stand at the stadium.
0:17:10 > 0:17:12Everybody was starting to panic.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14It was the scene of a major disaster
0:17:14 > 0:17:17and nobody was quite ready for this, what was going on.
0:17:17 > 0:17:19And then my dad appeared.
0:17:19 > 0:17:21He had blood cos he'd had to jump out of a window
0:17:21 > 0:17:23cos people wouldn't leave part of the building
0:17:23 > 0:17:24he was trying to get them out of.
0:17:24 > 0:17:28It was just a horrible period of our lives
0:17:28 > 0:17:31as a collective, and even as children
0:17:31 > 0:17:34we could sense that this was something
0:17:34 > 0:17:37that my dad was really struggling with.
0:17:39 > 0:17:4456 people lost their lives, and over 250 were injured
0:17:44 > 0:17:47in one of the worst disasters in the history of British football.
0:17:47 > 0:17:52Since the fire in 1985, new safety laws have been introduced.
0:17:52 > 0:17:54Old wooden stadiums have been rebuilt
0:17:54 > 0:17:57and a smoking ban is in place at all grounds across the nation.
0:17:59 > 0:18:02Still to come: We ask the all-important question,
0:18:02 > 0:18:05what would our celebs do if they were 12 again?
0:18:05 > 0:18:06Have those experiences,
0:18:06 > 0:18:10cos that's what's going to make you the person you'll eventually become.
0:18:10 > 0:18:14One of the best things about being 12 is what's coming.
0:18:14 > 0:18:17Accept the fact that you are a geek and get on with it.
0:18:17 > 0:18:22Before that, it's time to discover what Matt Cardle was like at 12.
0:18:22 > 0:18:26# You need somebody who likes themselves... #
0:18:26 > 0:18:31He's an X Factor winner who's gone on to be a successful solo artist.
0:18:31 > 0:18:33But what did Matt get up to when he was 12?
0:18:33 > 0:18:35We had one den.
0:18:35 > 0:18:38It was probably one of the best ones I've ever seen.
0:18:38 > 0:18:40It had an underground bit, an overground bit,
0:18:40 > 0:18:42a tree house looking out bit.
0:18:42 > 0:18:45I was always preparing for some kind of attack.
0:18:45 > 0:18:47Very wise, Matt.
0:18:47 > 0:18:51Always expect the unexpected.
0:18:51 > 0:18:53But what about school life?
0:18:53 > 0:18:55At school, if you like the teacher
0:18:55 > 0:18:58then you get on well with the subject, cos you listen,
0:18:58 > 0:19:00which is why I got on so well with music, because Adrian
0:19:00 > 0:19:04was just so, like, inspirational and fun to be around.
0:19:04 > 0:19:07You had so much respect for him that you'd sit there and listen to him
0:19:07 > 0:19:11and he inspires you to pick up guitars and instruments and stuff.
0:19:11 > 0:19:14He's on a first name basis with the teacher?
0:19:14 > 0:19:17But I wonder how he got on with the ladies.
0:19:17 > 0:19:23I remember we'd just watched Dirty Dancing and then had a little kiss.
0:19:23 > 0:19:27# I'm a shooting star... #
0:19:27 > 0:19:31It's never nice, is it? It's just freaky and very awkward.
0:19:33 > 0:19:35Like the first time every time.
0:19:35 > 0:19:37Speak for yourself, Matt!
0:19:37 > 0:19:40When you got over being freaked out about your first kiss,
0:19:40 > 0:19:42what was the best thing about being 12?
0:19:42 > 0:19:44Playing guitar and finding something that I knew
0:19:44 > 0:19:47I was going to be doing for the rest of my life.
0:19:47 > 0:19:52Finding something in life that is that special...
0:19:52 > 0:19:54was the best thing for me.
0:19:56 > 0:19:58See you later, mate. Bye!
0:19:58 > 0:19:59Lovely man.
0:20:00 > 0:20:03Right, time to get back to our three celebs,
0:20:03 > 0:20:06and find out what Ben, Gabby and Theo were watching
0:20:06 > 0:20:07when they were 12.
0:20:11 > 0:20:17Television was important. It was an important way of seeing the world.
0:20:17 > 0:20:22And the best show ever was Michael Parkinson.
0:20:26 > 0:20:31The Parkinson show began in 1971 and was a huge success on the BBC.
0:20:31 > 0:20:33I think they like you.
0:20:33 > 0:20:35It was a show to watch as host, Michael Parkinson,
0:20:35 > 0:20:39interviewed every kind of celebrity you can imagine from the time.
0:20:39 > 0:20:40George Best.
0:20:40 > 0:20:42It was the first British chat show of its kind,
0:20:42 > 0:20:45a bit like the Jonathan Ross Show today.
0:20:45 > 0:20:48That was your window into the celebrity world.
0:20:48 > 0:20:53- What was the first time that you met then?- What? Him and I?
0:20:53 > 0:20:55Yesterday morning, wasn't it?
0:20:55 > 0:20:59I would see things to aspire to, people to aspire to.
0:20:59 > 0:21:01Have your little jokes.
0:21:03 > 0:21:07Lives that people led, that you could only dream about.
0:21:08 > 0:21:12And one interview with a boxing legend left a massive impression
0:21:12 > 0:21:13on a young Theo Paphitis.
0:21:13 > 0:21:15The great Muhammad Ali.
0:21:15 > 0:21:19Now Ali lands to the right, what a beautiful swing
0:21:19 > 0:21:22And the punchless Frazier clean out of the ring!
0:21:22 > 0:21:25To actually see him not in the ring
0:21:25 > 0:21:27but talking to Michael Parkinson was tremendous.
0:21:27 > 0:21:32Frazier's still rising, but the referee wears a frown,
0:21:32 > 0:21:35for he can't start counting until Frazier comes down.
0:21:35 > 0:21:38And on the flip side, you have Rod Hull and Emu
0:21:38 > 0:21:40attacking poor Parky.
0:21:41 > 0:21:43And Emu, basically, was a big bird
0:21:43 > 0:21:47that he had his hand up his bum and pretended it was real.
0:21:47 > 0:21:49It's not that convincing.
0:21:51 > 0:21:54In 2007, after 26 years of interviewing
0:21:54 > 0:21:56the world's most famous celebs,
0:21:56 > 0:21:58the Michael Parkinson Show came to an end.
0:21:58 > 0:22:01Good night.
0:22:01 > 0:22:05Let's fast forward to the 1980s and find out what Gaby was watching.
0:22:05 > 0:22:11Grange Hill was a children's programme that I really loved.
0:22:11 > 0:22:14Grange Hill was one of the most successful kids dramas of all time.
0:22:14 > 0:22:18What is it you got? Three CSEs at what grade?
0:22:18 > 0:22:21Yeah, well, at least I'm not wasting my time with resits.
0:22:21 > 0:22:25And it was well known for tackling cutting edge gritty storylines.
0:22:25 > 0:22:27There were stories about love.
0:22:27 > 0:22:30If you want to go out with me, that's fine too.
0:22:30 > 0:22:31Families having a bit of discord...
0:22:31 > 0:22:34I've got to know you're where you say you are,
0:22:34 > 0:22:36otherwise something terrible might happen
0:22:36 > 0:22:38and no-one would realise you were missing.
0:22:38 > 0:22:42One of the big campaigns that they got involved with,
0:22:42 > 0:22:45was a drugs campaign called, Just Say No.
0:22:45 > 0:22:47Roly, is it all right if I go through the back room?
0:22:47 > 0:22:50I've dropped the paper with the bloke's phone number on it.
0:22:50 > 0:22:53In 1986, one of Grange Hill's most controversial storylines
0:22:53 > 0:22:56focused on a very topical issue, Zammo's drug addiction.
0:22:56 > 0:22:58Listen, have you got any money?
0:22:58 > 0:23:01No, well, only a couple of quid.
0:23:01 > 0:23:03- I need 50.- What on earth for?
0:23:03 > 0:23:06And as part of a nationwide campaign to raise awareness
0:23:06 > 0:23:10of drug-related issues, the show released a single, Just Say No.
0:23:10 > 0:23:13- Just say no.- # Just say no. #
0:23:13 > 0:23:17The campaign was great, but it left some mums a little paranoid.
0:23:17 > 0:23:18# All you've got to do is be yourself. #
0:23:18 > 0:23:21I remember kissing my mum goodbye for school
0:23:21 > 0:23:24and she got hold of my head, looked at my eyes and went,
0:23:24 > 0:23:26"Your pupils are really dilated."
0:23:28 > 0:23:30Then I remember reading a check list in the paper.
0:23:30 > 0:23:32"If your child becomes withdrawn,
0:23:32 > 0:23:34"if your child becomes moody or irrational
0:23:34 > 0:23:36"and has dilated pupils..."
0:23:36 > 0:23:40My mum was obviously trying to make sure her kids were all right.
0:23:40 > 0:23:42The song peaked at number five in the charts
0:23:42 > 0:23:46and raised over £100,000 to help the fight against drug use.
0:23:46 > 0:23:49Where's he been all summer? Probably bombed out of his lungs.
0:23:49 > 0:23:53- I spent most of it at Narcotics Anonymous.- Well you were lucky.
0:23:53 > 0:23:55Yeah, I know.
0:23:55 > 0:23:59So that is what Gaby was watching in the '80s.
0:23:59 > 0:24:01Let's find out what Ben was watching in the 90s.
0:24:01 > 0:24:06One of my favourite TV shows as a kid was a show called Kick Start.
0:24:12 > 0:24:16# Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do Do, do, do, do. #
0:24:16 > 0:24:19You'd tune in, turn that up get the cushion,
0:24:19 > 0:24:21throw it in front of the TV, elbows on the cushion,
0:24:21 > 0:24:25that far away from the screen, just soaking it up, wishing I was there.
0:24:27 > 0:24:33Junior Kick Start began in 1979 and ran for over 10 years.
0:24:33 > 0:24:37Essentially, what it was, was kids competing against each other
0:24:37 > 0:24:39in time trials on motorbikes.
0:24:39 > 0:24:42Each week, six kids would set off on their motorbikes
0:24:42 > 0:24:46on the very hard obstacle course and it was against the clock.
0:24:46 > 0:24:48Whoa, he's struggling there.
0:24:48 > 0:24:53- They'd then attempt the same course in the opposite direction.- Oh, no!
0:24:53 > 0:24:56It was the only show where you got penalised for putting your foot down
0:24:56 > 0:24:58to stop yourself getting hurt.
0:24:58 > 0:25:01Riding across dangerous obstacles.
0:25:01 > 0:25:04Obstacles that you wouldn't really want to run over,
0:25:04 > 0:25:05let alone ride a motorbike over.
0:25:05 > 0:25:07Whoa!
0:25:07 > 0:25:13They almost all looked like they had been built by a couple of layabouts.
0:25:13 > 0:25:14Whoa!
0:25:14 > 0:25:18Do you two know how to strap a six by four plank of wood
0:25:18 > 0:25:19and some bollards together?
0:25:19 > 0:25:23- "Yeah, we'll give it a go." - He really flew out of that one.
0:25:23 > 0:25:25The course designed to catch out the very best.
0:25:27 > 0:25:31And in 1986, one boy found the course just a bit too much.
0:25:31 > 0:25:34He's only 10, riding a Honda 50.
0:25:34 > 0:25:35And yes, he's 10.
0:25:37 > 0:25:41This is the one that really caused the problems and it's caught him too.
0:25:41 > 0:25:43It's the blind leading the blind.
0:25:43 > 0:25:47The first guy comes in, you just see him fall into the pit.
0:25:47 > 0:25:52Oh, dear, the St John's ambulance man tried to get there in a hurry.
0:25:52 > 0:25:53And he's down.
0:25:53 > 0:25:56The second guy edges his way in carefully,
0:25:56 > 0:25:58I won't make the same mistakes.
0:25:58 > 0:26:02He gets closer to the kid, knees go, buckles over backwards.
0:26:03 > 0:26:06I'm sorry, this is a bit like the Keystone Cops down there.
0:26:06 > 0:26:09I was very impressed by all the kids on that.
0:26:09 > 0:26:11I hope they've managed to continue their life
0:26:11 > 0:26:14without any life-threatening injuries.
0:26:14 > 0:26:17And don't worry, you can rest assured that the good men
0:26:17 > 0:26:21from the St John's ambulance went on to help other boys ride another day.
0:26:21 > 0:26:23I'm sure you'll agree, a marvellous competition.
0:26:23 > 0:26:26Till the next time from Easton Neston, goodbye.
0:26:28 > 0:26:31So those were the TV memories of our three celebs,
0:26:31 > 0:26:34but what do they remember most about being 12?
0:26:34 > 0:26:36One of the best things about being 12,
0:26:36 > 0:26:38is what's coming
0:26:38 > 0:26:40and that feeling that you're on the edge of adulthood,
0:26:40 > 0:26:42the edge of change.
0:26:42 > 0:26:45On the one hand, while I was quite fearful for that,
0:26:45 > 0:26:49there was also excitement around the corner, a lot of possibility.
0:26:49 > 0:26:53You weren't a teenager, yet, and you weren't a little boy anymore.
0:26:53 > 0:26:56The best thing, looking back, is just that sense of freedom
0:26:56 > 0:26:58and endless possibility.
0:26:58 > 0:27:02That's a special thing that I wish I could bottle, you know?
0:27:02 > 0:27:04I would tell my 12-year-old self,
0:27:04 > 0:27:07to not worry about the changes that would come into her body,
0:27:07 > 0:27:11that she didn't need to worry about boys,
0:27:11 > 0:27:12they weren't so mysterious.
0:27:12 > 0:27:15You find out who you are through the hardships.
0:27:15 > 0:27:17That's the way life is.
0:27:17 > 0:27:20It's hard to recognise that when you're going through them
0:27:20 > 0:27:22but ultimately, you'll look back and say,
0:27:22 > 0:27:26"Yes, that bit of my life was not pleasant, but I learnt from it."
0:27:26 > 0:27:29Undoubtedly, the best thing about being 12,
0:27:29 > 0:27:32is looking forward to the unknown.
0:27:32 > 0:27:36Have those experiences, because that is what's going to make you
0:27:36 > 0:27:38the person you'll eventually become.
0:27:38 > 0:27:42Embrace your differences, embrace what's strange about you
0:27:42 > 0:27:45and all the things you feel insecure about.
0:27:45 > 0:27:48Accept your nerd status, that's what I always say to myself.
0:27:48 > 0:27:52Accept the fact that you're a geek and get on with it.
0:27:53 > 0:27:55So, what have we learned?
0:27:55 > 0:27:59It's acceptable for men to wear make up within reason.
0:28:01 > 0:28:04Never invite emus onto chat shows.
0:28:04 > 0:28:06And next time you fall off your bike,
0:28:06 > 0:28:09make sure these two blokes aren't there to help.
0:28:09 > 0:28:10Boof!