Episode 12

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04Coming up, three celebs become 12 Again.

0:00:04 > 0:00:08My careers teacher at school told me not to be silly and get a proper job.

0:00:08 > 0:00:14Curtains were pretty much what every person had.

0:00:14 > 0:00:17I just spent an hour or so in my bedroom, just sulking.

0:00:17 > 0:00:21And we catch up with the pop sensation that is A*M*E.

0:00:21 > 0:00:26I think I was... One word to sum it up would be "loud", I think!

0:00:26 > 0:00:28Want to find out more?

0:00:28 > 0:00:31Well, have you ever wondered what it would have been like to be

0:00:31 > 0:00:35best mates with celebs when they were your age?

0:00:35 > 0:00:39What did they get up to? What were their favourite songs?

0:00:39 > 0:00:41What TV shows did they watch?

0:00:41 > 0:00:45Despite their glamorous lifestyles now,

0:00:45 > 0:00:48once they were a kid with a dream, just like you.

0:00:48 > 0:00:52This show lets you look back in time with your favourite celebs

0:00:52 > 0:00:55as they become 12 Again.

0:01:00 > 0:01:05- Hiya.- From Coronation Street to Doctor Who...

0:01:05 > 0:01:09- I love you.- ..her life may be a nonstop drama today

0:01:09 > 0:01:12but when Michelle Collins turned 12 in 1974,

0:01:12 > 0:01:15she was already facing some tricky situations.

0:01:15 > 0:01:1712 was a pretty tough year for me.

0:01:17 > 0:01:20I think I had a lot of growing up to do.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22I remember just wanting to fit in.

0:01:22 > 0:01:28He's the ex-England captain, legend and all-round sports personality

0:01:28 > 0:01:34but back in 1986, it wasn't all about cricket for Michael Vaughan.

0:01:34 > 0:01:36I was sport-mad.

0:01:36 > 0:01:39Football or cricket, tennis, squash, badminton...

0:01:39 > 0:01:42Pretty much a sport nerd.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45# Goin' down, down, down... #

0:01:45 > 0:01:48Solo artist and veteran of the music industry,

0:01:48 > 0:01:50he's done pop with Busted...

0:01:50 > 0:01:53# That's what I go to school for... #

0:01:53 > 0:01:55..metal with Fightstar...

0:01:56 > 0:02:01..but in 1997, Charlie Simpson's shows were not so well-received.

0:02:01 > 0:02:04I remember being obsessed with music.

0:02:04 > 0:02:08We would do mini-shows throughout different break times.

0:02:08 > 0:02:11We'd get told to turn it down. It was making a racket.

0:02:11 > 0:02:15Yes, Charlie, keep it down. I'm trying to record a voiceover.

0:02:15 > 0:02:19It's time to find out what this lot were like when they were kids.

0:02:22 > 0:02:26I was quite serious at school. I didn't really muck around.

0:02:26 > 0:02:29I liked being in a crowd. I didn't like being on my own.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31I was pretty naughty.

0:02:31 > 0:02:35My sister has always been far more domesticated than me.

0:02:35 > 0:02:37My gran used to call me a minx.

0:02:37 > 0:02:42I wasn't a troublemaker, but I'd find myself in trouble.

0:02:42 > 0:02:44I was a stick insect.

0:02:44 > 0:02:49Tall and thin. Spots arrived at 12.

0:02:49 > 0:02:54If you went to school with a spot, it was a horrible experience.

0:02:54 > 0:02:58I think I probably looked like any other 12-year-old.

0:02:58 > 0:03:00I had very mousy hair.

0:03:00 > 0:03:03There were gypsy cuts and feather cuts,

0:03:03 > 0:03:05which were sort of layered hair.

0:03:05 > 0:03:09Sort of a long mullet, really. And then down to there.

0:03:09 > 0:03:13I had a gypsy cut, which was slightly cooler than a feather cut.

0:03:13 > 0:03:17I went to a hairdresser and said, "Can I have the Jason Donovan look?"

0:03:17 > 0:03:20I took a picture. "Can you copy that?"

0:03:20 > 0:03:23Michael, even by '80s standards, that's a shocking haircut.

0:03:23 > 0:03:25I hope you've got product in that.

0:03:25 > 0:03:30- Get a tub of gel for 46p.- What a relief!- Last you about three years.

0:03:30 > 0:03:32I've still got it, actually!

0:03:32 > 0:03:36Curtains were what pretty much every person had.

0:03:37 > 0:03:39It was either a bowl cut,

0:03:39 > 0:03:44which was usually something that someone's mum would have

0:03:44 > 0:03:48put on them, or if they were trying to break against the mould.

0:03:48 > 0:03:52And everyone was doing that. It was THE haircut to have.

0:03:52 > 0:03:56Our celebs may have been very particular about their hairdos,

0:03:56 > 0:04:01but did they know what they were going to do when they grew up?

0:04:01 > 0:04:05I wanted to be a footballer. I was involved in a local team.

0:04:05 > 0:04:08We played every Sunday. I was in the school team.

0:04:08 > 0:04:10We were winning quite a lot of games.

0:04:10 > 0:04:14Got invited down to Sheffield Wednesday for a trial in the summer.

0:04:14 > 0:04:18Lasted about three days and then they said I wasn't good enough

0:04:18 > 0:04:21and then I started to become good at cricket.

0:04:21 > 0:04:25While cricket was Michael's salvation,

0:04:25 > 0:04:27Charlie's passion was causing problems.

0:04:27 > 0:04:29I was obsessed with music.

0:04:29 > 0:04:34I remember there was a point where they sat me down and said,

0:04:34 > 0:04:38"If you don't stop just thinking about music and start concentrating

0:04:38 > 0:04:42"on school work, we're going to have to keep you down a year."

0:04:42 > 0:04:47It worried me because I was looking forward to going to senior school.

0:04:47 > 0:04:50Charlie may have known that music was for him at 12,

0:04:50 > 0:04:54but Michelle was still unsure about what she wanted to do.

0:04:54 > 0:04:57Apart from the occasional play at school,

0:04:57 > 0:05:00I don't remember doing anything really associated with drama.

0:05:00 > 0:05:05So I don't really know where that came from, wanting to act.

0:05:05 > 0:05:09I wanted to from quite a young age, but I was never encouraged to do it.

0:05:09 > 0:05:12I remember going to my careers teacher who told me

0:05:12 > 0:05:15not to be silly and get a proper job.

0:05:15 > 0:05:21Erm... I think working in TV's a proper job.

0:05:22 > 0:05:25OK, so now we know what our celebs wanted to be,

0:05:25 > 0:05:28but what were they listening to as kids?

0:05:28 > 0:05:31When I was 12, grunge was huge at that time.

0:05:31 > 0:05:34Grunge was inspired by punk, metal and rock

0:05:34 > 0:05:38and was made famous by the now-legendary band Nirvana.

0:05:40 > 0:05:43# With the lights out it's less dangerous... #

0:05:43 > 0:05:47From fashion to facial hair, this was more than just music.

0:05:47 > 0:05:51It influenced countless bands. Who were Charlie's favourites?

0:05:51 > 0:05:55There were a few I was listening to. Bands like Pearl Jam.

0:05:55 > 0:06:00# Oh, I, oh, I'm still alive... #

0:06:00 > 0:06:03In England, Bush were becoming quite big.

0:06:03 > 0:06:08# Swallowed, borrowed... #

0:06:08 > 0:06:12And then a band called Silverchair from Australia.

0:06:12 > 0:06:15# Maybe not today... #

0:06:16 > 0:06:20They were the first band I ever saw live. They blew me away.

0:06:20 > 0:06:24They got signed when they were 15 and they were so good.

0:06:24 > 0:06:27When you think of Australian music, you don't think of grunge,

0:06:27 > 0:06:29you think of this.

0:06:29 > 0:06:30# La-la la, la-la-la... #

0:06:30 > 0:06:33Pop stars used to be in soaps like Neighbours,

0:06:33 > 0:06:37such as Kylie Minogue and the gorgeous Holly Valance.

0:06:37 > 0:06:39# When you look at me Tell me what you see

0:06:39 > 0:06:42# This is what you get It's the way I am... #

0:06:42 > 0:06:46Silverchair were the serious-rock export from Down Under

0:06:46 > 0:06:51in the 1990s and made their lead singer Daniel Johns a massive star.

0:06:51 > 0:06:55He went on to marry another Aussie, ex-soap star Natalie Imbruglia.

0:06:55 > 0:06:58# Nothing's fine, I'm torn

0:06:58 > 0:07:01# I'm all out of faith This is how I feel... #

0:07:01 > 0:07:06It wasn't always the pop stars that our celebs were into.

0:07:06 > 0:07:11Back in 1974, Michelle was turning on the radio for a different reason.

0:07:11 > 0:07:14DJs were huge in those days.

0:07:14 > 0:07:17We used to go outside the BBC and queue up for autographs.

0:07:17 > 0:07:22How sad is that! Waiting outside the BBC for DJs' autographs!

0:07:22 > 0:07:25Let me explain.

0:07:25 > 0:07:28When Michelle was 12, Radio 1 was still quite new

0:07:28 > 0:07:30and everyone listened to it.

0:07:30 > 0:07:34The DJs were as famous as the pop stars that they were playing.

0:07:34 > 0:07:39DJs such as Dave Lee Travis, Emperor Rosko and Tony Blackburn

0:07:39 > 0:07:42were all household names and enjoyed superstar status.

0:07:42 > 0:07:45Welcome along to The Tony Blackburn Show.

0:07:45 > 0:07:48What a lovely sound this is as well.

0:07:48 > 0:07:51# You ain't seen nothing yet... #

0:07:51 > 0:07:56Unfortunately, Radio 1 didn't change much for the next 20 years.

0:07:56 > 0:07:58As the DJs got older,

0:07:58 > 0:08:02so did the audience and Radio 1 was left looking pretty fuddy-duddy,

0:08:02 > 0:08:04becoming the target of many jokes.

0:08:06 > 0:08:09One of me all-time favourite records of all time.

0:08:09 > 0:08:13Bachman-Turner Overdrive with You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet.

0:08:13 > 0:08:16One of me all time favourite records of all time, mate.

0:08:16 > 0:08:19These comedy characters by Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse

0:08:19 > 0:08:22were worryingly similar to the real Radio 1.

0:08:22 > 0:08:27This is Mike Smash saying a-wee ba-ba, ba-ba-ba-ba bye bye!

0:08:27 > 0:08:30Radio 1 drastically changed itself

0:08:30 > 0:08:34so it could once again be the cool station we know and love today.

0:08:34 > 0:08:36Still, back in the '70s,

0:08:36 > 0:08:39the DJs were cooler than some of the bands themselves.

0:08:39 > 0:08:42We mustn't forget The Wombles.

0:08:42 > 0:08:45# Underground overground Wombling free

0:08:45 > 0:08:49# The Wombles of Wimbledon Common are we... #

0:08:49 > 0:08:52The Wombles were furry creatures that lived on Wimbledon Common

0:08:52 > 0:08:56and were the original eco-warriors too, recycling everything.

0:08:56 > 0:09:01# Making good use of the things that we find

0:09:01 > 0:09:05# Things that the everyday folks leave behind... #

0:09:05 > 0:09:10But they were more than recyclers. They were also pop stars too.

0:09:10 > 0:09:14- They were even on Top Of The Pops. - # Remember you're a Womble... #

0:09:14 > 0:09:15# Remember you're a Womble! #

0:09:15 > 0:09:18- # Remember you're a Womble - Remember you're a Womble

0:09:18 > 0:09:22- # Remember you're a Womble - Remember you're a Womble

0:09:22 > 0:09:26# Remember member member what a Womble you are... #

0:09:26 > 0:09:28I used to have guitar lessons.

0:09:28 > 0:09:31We stole our mum's fur coats and dressed up as Wombles

0:09:31 > 0:09:36- and played Remember You're A Womble. - Yeah, that's a bit embarrassing.

0:09:36 > 0:09:40Come to think of it, so was the real thing.

0:09:40 > 0:09:42# Can you feel it? #

0:09:42 > 0:09:47Time to find out if pop idols in 1986 were as wild as The Wombles.

0:09:47 > 0:09:50At 12 years old, I used to love Huey Lewis.

0:09:50 > 0:09:54Never heard of Huey Lewis? You might know this song.

0:09:54 > 0:09:58# You don't need money... #

0:09:58 > 0:10:02It was made famous in the 1980s blockbuster Back To The Future.

0:10:02 > 0:10:05It starred Michael J Fox,

0:10:05 > 0:10:10and also featured the coolest time machine ever.

0:10:10 > 0:10:12# That's the power of love... #

0:10:12 > 0:10:17Sorry, Doctor Who, but that DeLorean is C-O-O-L cool!

0:10:17 > 0:10:20However, even with everything a 12-year-old boy wants,

0:10:20 > 0:10:22it wasn't Michael's top track.

0:10:22 > 0:10:24I used to love Kylie MInogue.

0:10:24 > 0:10:27# I should be so lucky... #

0:10:27 > 0:10:30Kylie Minogue made her name

0:10:30 > 0:10:33in the UK as Charlene, the feisty female mechanic from Neighbours.

0:10:33 > 0:10:35On Neighbours, she was my crush.

0:10:35 > 0:10:40I had Sheffield Wednesday posters and Kylie Minogue posters.

0:10:40 > 0:10:43Yup, Kylie moved seamlessly from garage to pop.

0:10:43 > 0:10:45You see what I did there?

0:10:45 > 0:10:50And got her first UK number one with this tune, released in 1987.

0:10:51 > 0:10:54Pretty much everything that Kylie produced,

0:10:54 > 0:10:57I would think it was great. She was the one.

0:10:57 > 0:10:59You should be so lucky, Michael!

0:11:02 > 0:11:07Still to come, we catch up with another pop princess, A*M*E.

0:11:07 > 0:11:09I love Twilight. I've read all the books.

0:11:09 > 0:11:13I think I've read them three times. Again and again.

0:11:13 > 0:11:17We find out what TV was impressing our celebs when they were 12.

0:11:17 > 0:11:20I remember being blown away by it.

0:11:20 > 0:11:23You get this box and you get all these channels.

0:11:23 > 0:11:27Charlie marvelled at technology but Michael was left disappointed.

0:11:27 > 0:11:30He never answered my letter. But I used to watch it all the time.

0:11:30 > 0:11:33And Michelle dreamed of dancing.

0:11:33 > 0:11:37We were going to run away and join Pan's People.

0:11:39 > 0:11:43But first, let's see what big news stories

0:11:43 > 0:11:47had an impact on our celebs when they were 12.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50Diego Maradona. The Hand of God.

0:11:50 > 0:11:54This is the story of the moment of the most infamous handball

0:11:54 > 0:11:58in footballing history and it happened at the World Cup in Mexico.

0:11:58 > 0:12:01The planet had gone football-crazy

0:12:01 > 0:12:04and England had started the tournament quite well.

0:12:04 > 0:12:07I remember getting excited about the World Cup.

0:12:07 > 0:12:09The family'd watch the matches.

0:12:09 > 0:12:14But England were about to face a country that were determined to win.

0:12:14 > 0:12:17'For Argentina's players,

0:12:17 > 0:12:20'the match against England is the one they wanted most of all.'

0:12:20 > 0:12:23Just four years earlier,

0:12:23 > 0:12:27Britain had defeated Argentina in a bitter war over the Falklands.

0:12:27 > 0:12:30'The Foreign Office said it hopes Sunday's World Cup match

0:12:30 > 0:12:35'between England and Argentina will be played in a sporting spirit.

0:12:35 > 0:12:40'It sees the game as part of efforts to restore good relations.'

0:12:40 > 0:12:46As old rivals, both countries pinned their hopes on their star players.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49'They hope the dazzling skills of Diego Maradona will eclipse

0:12:49 > 0:12:53'the prolific goal-scoring talent of Gary Lineker.'

0:12:57 > 0:13:01I was at home watching it. We had a decent team.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04And we were close to doing something special.

0:13:04 > 0:13:08And the act of one man and his hand... The Hand of God.

0:13:08 > 0:13:12Getting up there and banging it over Shilton.

0:13:12 > 0:13:13After a goalless first half,

0:13:13 > 0:13:18the Argentine captain took matters into his own hands, quite literally.

0:13:18 > 0:13:22He punched the ball into the back of the net and got away with it!

0:13:22 > 0:13:26Maradona was the best player in the world, but he had cheated.

0:13:26 > 0:13:30I couldn't understand how someone had got away with that

0:13:30 > 0:13:32and why would he have done it?

0:13:32 > 0:13:36It may not have been the winning goal, but it helped Argentina

0:13:36 > 0:13:40to victory and sent the England squad out of the competition.

0:13:40 > 0:13:44There's still some bitterness about their defeat by Argentina,

0:13:44 > 0:13:48especially since Maradona has practically admitted

0:13:48 > 0:13:51that one of his two goals came from a handball.

0:13:51 > 0:13:56I just spent an hour or so in my bedroom, just sulking.

0:13:56 > 0:14:0128 years nearly later, I realise that these things happen

0:14:01 > 0:14:04and you have to take them on the chin.

0:14:04 > 0:14:091986 may have seen disappointment for Michael, but in London,

0:14:09 > 0:14:14a tragedy was to happen very close to home for Michelle in 1975.

0:14:15 > 0:14:19'In the tube crash at Moorgate this morning,

0:14:19 > 0:14:22'at least 29 people are believed killed and 90 injured.

0:14:22 > 0:14:26'It is the worst crash in the history of London's underground.'

0:14:26 > 0:14:29On 28th February 1975,

0:14:29 > 0:14:34a tube train crashed into a dead-end tunnel at Moorgate,

0:14:34 > 0:14:37a part of London Michelle knew well.

0:14:37 > 0:14:42I used to walk to school through Drayton Park, to Highbury.

0:14:42 > 0:14:46Some people got on at Drayton Park and there'd been a terrible crash.

0:14:46 > 0:14:50'The accident happened when a train raced past the platform,

0:14:50 > 0:14:51'crashing through buffers

0:14:51 > 0:14:54'and struck a wall at the blind end of a tunnel.'

0:14:54 > 0:14:58First reports spoke of a dozen or so injured.

0:14:58 > 0:15:01No-one could believe that the London Underground

0:15:01 > 0:15:05could have a really major accident.

0:15:05 > 0:15:11In total, 43 people died in the disaster. Many more were injured.

0:15:11 > 0:15:14'The faces of the survivors and rescuers

0:15:14 > 0:15:17'were ample evidence of the horror of the scene underground.'

0:15:17 > 0:15:21In the aftermath of the crash, the people came together

0:15:21 > 0:15:24and donated blood to those who were injured.

0:15:24 > 0:15:28The police officer in charge at the scene said tonight,

0:15:28 > 0:15:31'everyone had behaved magnificently.'

0:15:31 > 0:15:35Automatic systems for stopping trains were introduced

0:15:35 > 0:15:37at dead ends on the tube.

0:15:37 > 0:15:42These systems came to be known informally as Moorgate Control.

0:15:42 > 0:15:45In 1997, when Charlie was 12, the entire nation

0:15:45 > 0:15:50was struck with grief after an event that became world news.

0:15:50 > 0:15:53'Buckingham Palace has confirmed the death

0:15:53 > 0:15:55'of Diana, Princess of Wales.

0:15:55 > 0:16:00'She died following a car accident in Paris. She was 36.'

0:16:00 > 0:16:05I remember when I woke up and went in to my brother's room,

0:16:05 > 0:16:11my family was kind of sat round the TV and just in complete shock.

0:16:11 > 0:16:16In the early hours of the morning on Sunday, 31st August 1997,

0:16:16 > 0:16:20Prince William and Harry's mother, Diana, Princess of Wales,

0:16:20 > 0:16:22was killed in a tragic car accident.

0:16:22 > 0:16:25'The accident happened in a road tunnel

0:16:25 > 0:16:28'which carries an expressway under a bridge at the Place de l'Alma,

0:16:28 > 0:16:32'across the River Seine from the Eiffel Tower.'

0:16:32 > 0:16:36Diana was hugely popular with people in Britain

0:16:36 > 0:16:37and across the world.

0:16:37 > 0:16:39Her work for numerous charities,

0:16:39 > 0:16:42along with her warm and natural personality,

0:16:42 > 0:16:44made her a global icon.

0:16:44 > 0:16:48'In Angola, she used her fame to draw attention to children

0:16:48 > 0:16:50'injured by land mines

0:16:50 > 0:16:53'and joined with charities to call for a total ban.'

0:16:53 > 0:16:57Diana's death had a huge effect on people across the country.

0:16:57 > 0:17:02Her public funeral at Westminster Abbey drew over a million mourners.

0:17:02 > 0:17:06Mountains of flowers were left in tribute.

0:17:06 > 0:17:11It was huge, huge news at that time. Seeing people genuinely upset.

0:17:11 > 0:17:16They were upset as if someone in their own family had died.

0:17:16 > 0:17:20That blew me away. What impact must this person have had on the world

0:17:20 > 0:17:24for people to be feeling this.

0:17:24 > 0:17:28And it really kind of resonated with me at that time.

0:17:28 > 0:17:32Diana became known to the world as the People's Princess.

0:17:32 > 0:17:36The nation hasn't seen the same kind of public grief since her death.

0:17:38 > 0:17:41Still to come, we ask the all-important question,

0:17:41 > 0:17:45what would our celebs do if they were 12 again?

0:17:45 > 0:17:49I'd go and have a game of five-a-side football with my mates.

0:17:49 > 0:17:53On a Wednesday night, floodlights, on Astroturf. Play for hours.

0:17:53 > 0:17:55Just enjoy life a little bit more

0:17:55 > 0:17:58and stop trying to be accepted by everybody.

0:17:58 > 0:18:02I would encourage any child to pursue their ambition.

0:18:02 > 0:18:05I think it's really important.

0:18:07 > 0:18:11Before that, it's time to take two minutes with singer A*M*E.

0:18:11 > 0:18:13# With all the lights like totally low... #

0:18:13 > 0:18:15When I was 12, I was...

0:18:15 > 0:18:19One word to sum it up would be "loud", I think!

0:18:19 > 0:18:23The transition from primary to secondary school made me

0:18:23 > 0:18:28feel the need to almost be over the top so people could notice me.

0:18:28 > 0:18:32I used to love ribbons in my hair.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35When I did wear plimsolls, I'd take out the laces

0:18:35 > 0:18:39and put in the colour laces to match my ribbon in my hair.

0:18:39 > 0:18:42And wear a stripy top which also matched.

0:18:42 > 0:18:45Everything had to be coordinated.

0:18:45 > 0:18:49A*M*E moved to the UK from Sierra Leone in Africa when she was eight.

0:18:49 > 0:18:53By 12, she'd developed quite the love of literature.

0:18:53 > 0:18:56I'm a big Twilight fan.

0:18:56 > 0:18:58I think I don't want to get into it

0:18:58 > 0:19:03cos then I'm going to start giving you my entire obsessive nature.

0:19:03 > 0:19:08I think I've read them three times. Again and again.

0:19:08 > 0:19:11But Twilight wasn't A*M*E's only love.

0:19:11 > 0:19:14I had a crush on Justin Timberlake.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16I loved him.

0:19:16 > 0:19:21My favourite track would be Rock Your Body, love that track.

0:19:21 > 0:19:24# Don't be so quick to walk away... #

0:19:24 > 0:19:28I'd listen to a lot of Justin Timberlake's lyrics

0:19:28 > 0:19:32and try to copy them and make them my own. Did that quite a bit!

0:19:35 > 0:19:37If I was 12 again,

0:19:37 > 0:19:40I would probably have gotten a little dance routine together

0:19:40 > 0:19:42for my school talent show.

0:19:42 > 0:19:46I remember performing Alicia Keys' Fallin'.

0:19:46 > 0:19:48# I keep on fallin' in and out... #

0:19:50 > 0:19:53Trying to project my voice in the way that Alicia Keys did.

0:19:53 > 0:19:56# Oh, oh, I... #

0:19:56 > 0:19:59And kind of failing a little bit!

0:19:59 > 0:20:03Maybe having it a bit more performed, instead of standing there

0:20:03 > 0:20:07and trying to properly sing. That's what I would have told myself.

0:20:07 > 0:20:12Well, we think you've turned out just great, A*M*E.

0:20:12 > 0:20:15# Just lettin' loose Just livin' life. #

0:20:15 > 0:20:19Now it's time to get back to business and find out what Michelle,

0:20:19 > 0:20:22Charlie and Michael were loving on TV when they were 12.

0:20:25 > 0:20:29Top Of The Pops was just the programme to watch.

0:20:29 > 0:20:31You had Pan's People.

0:20:31 > 0:20:35# It's the best disco in town Number one in disco sound

0:20:35 > 0:20:38# It's the place where hip people meet... #

0:20:39 > 0:20:43When Michelle was watching Top Of The Pops in 1974,

0:20:43 > 0:20:45videos were not that common.

0:20:45 > 0:20:49If the song was in the charts but the band weren't available,

0:20:49 > 0:20:53Pan's People were on standby to step in with an interpretive dance.

0:20:53 > 0:20:55Nice move, ladies!

0:20:55 > 0:20:59They got to dance on TV and be around all these DJs.

0:20:59 > 0:21:00They had the best job.

0:21:00 > 0:21:04They weren't the first dance troupe to appear on Top Of The Pops,

0:21:04 > 0:21:08but they were the most influential.

0:21:10 > 0:21:14I remember my cousin and I collaborating.

0:21:14 > 0:21:19We were going to run away and join Pan's People. I wanted to be Cherry

0:21:19 > 0:21:21and she wanted to be Flick.

0:21:21 > 0:21:25But I was never a great dancer, so it wasn't ever really going to happen,

0:21:25 > 0:21:27that I'd join Pan's People.

0:21:27 > 0:21:30So, with Pan's People and Wombles performances,

0:21:30 > 0:21:32Michelle loved dressing up.

0:21:35 > 0:21:40In 1997, Charlie was about to experience a whole new world of TV.

0:21:40 > 0:21:45I didn't know what Sky TV was. I remember being blown away by it.

0:21:45 > 0:21:48You get this box and you get all these channels.

0:21:48 > 0:21:50"This is the best present we've ever had!"

0:21:50 > 0:21:52I know what you're thinking.

0:21:52 > 0:21:56Why is Charlie so excited about having Sky TV?

0:21:56 > 0:22:01Most families in 1997 still only had BBC One, BBC Two, ITV

0:22:01 > 0:22:04and Channel 4.

0:22:04 > 0:22:07Only four channels! I don't know how they managed either.

0:22:07 > 0:22:11Satellite broadcasting has been around in the UK since 1978.

0:22:11 > 0:22:12It wasn't until the 1990s

0:22:12 > 0:22:16that multi-channel TV really began to catch on.

0:22:18 > 0:22:22We were used to four channels. Suddenly, you have 100 channels.

0:22:22 > 0:22:27You get to watch a channel that's just dedicated to movies or music.

0:22:27 > 0:22:32Charlie now had another way to listen to his rock heroes.

0:22:32 > 0:22:36There was a show on MTV called Headbangers Ball.

0:22:36 > 0:22:40Welcome to the start of a brand new week and a brand-new day

0:22:40 > 0:22:44and look for the metal marathon known as Headbangers Ball.

0:22:44 > 0:22:48All the bands I was listening to would have live performances

0:22:48 > 0:22:51or videos. Bands like Placebo.

0:22:51 > 0:22:54# Cos there's nothing else to do... #

0:22:54 > 0:22:57It was amazing. That was a really cool thing to have.

0:22:57 > 0:23:01If you thought that was cool, Charlie,

0:23:01 > 0:23:04wait till you see what Michael was watching in the '80s.

0:23:04 > 0:23:09A show where you could write and ask for anything you want. Literally.

0:23:09 > 0:23:13Jim'll Fix It was a massive show.

0:23:13 > 0:23:16# Jim'll Fix It Jim'll Fix It... #

0:23:16 > 0:23:20Jim'll Fix It was a TV show that made kids' dreams come true,

0:23:20 > 0:23:23no matter how bizarre.

0:23:24 > 0:23:29We've got a letter from the 2nd Sutton St Mary's Cub Scouts.

0:23:29 > 0:23:33They said, "How about an unusual place to eat our lunch?"

0:23:33 > 0:23:35Hosted by Sir Jimmy Savile,

0:23:35 > 0:23:39each week, requests from lucky viewers would be turned into reality

0:23:39 > 0:23:44and some of the fix-its have gone on to become TV legend.

0:23:44 > 0:23:48- Are you sure you want to eat on the Revolution?- Yes!

0:23:48 > 0:23:52This is probably the most famous and definitely one of the funniest!

0:24:01 > 0:24:05Unfortunately for Michael, not everybody's dreams came true.

0:24:06 > 0:24:09I wanted to play for Sheffield Wednesday.

0:24:09 > 0:24:12I wanted him to organise it, put blue-and-white stripes on

0:24:12 > 0:24:16and play for the team. He never answered my letter.

0:24:16 > 0:24:19I used to watch it all the time. Used to love the show.

0:24:19 > 0:24:21# Your letter is only the start of it... #

0:24:21 > 0:24:28From roller-coaster rides to wrestling to jumping into signs -

0:24:28 > 0:24:31fair enough! - Jim could fix anything.

0:24:31 > 0:24:32Jim'll Fix It was the king.

0:24:32 > 0:24:36All kids would write in to try and get him to fulfil dreams.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39He didn't fulfil mine!

0:24:39 > 0:24:43At least you didn't get covered with your own packed lunch.

0:24:43 > 0:24:45That is shocking!

0:24:48 > 0:24:51So those were the TV memories of our three talented celebs.

0:24:51 > 0:24:55What do they remember the most about being 12?

0:24:55 > 0:25:00Best thing about being 12, I would say,

0:25:00 > 0:25:03I just played sport all the time.

0:25:03 > 0:25:08I was involved in every team. It was all I lived for in those days.

0:25:08 > 0:25:09It was a difficult time.

0:25:09 > 0:25:13Leaving primary school, which was my comfort zone,

0:25:13 > 0:25:18having known all my friends at primary school for five or six years.

0:25:19 > 0:25:23Becoming sort of on the edge of womanhood

0:25:23 > 0:25:29and also wanting to be accepted and not feeling that I was accepted.

0:25:29 > 0:25:32It was just the realisation that your life is about to change

0:25:32 > 0:25:35and new things are going to happen.

0:25:35 > 0:25:39It's very much opening a door to a new era in your life.

0:25:39 > 0:25:42You start thinking about GCSEs. It's not too far away

0:25:42 > 0:25:45and then you starting thinking about what you do after that.

0:25:45 > 0:25:48That's quite daunting.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51For so long, all you've done is just arrive at school

0:25:51 > 0:25:55and do your stuff and you don't have that many decisions to make.

0:25:55 > 0:26:00You've got decisions to make about what you're going to do.

0:26:00 > 0:26:04You feel like you're dipping your toes

0:26:04 > 0:26:07into a kind of more adult world.

0:26:07 > 0:26:10It's a pretty seminal moment in your life.

0:26:10 > 0:26:13It definitely was in mine.

0:26:13 > 0:26:19You become a teenager and then it's a whole new ball game, to be honest!

0:26:19 > 0:26:22If I was 12 again, I would go next door and say,

0:26:22 > 0:26:27"Do you want to come out to play?" We'd get our roller skates out

0:26:27 > 0:26:29and we'd roller skate down the road.

0:26:29 > 0:26:32I'd just play football. I struggle now cos of my knee,

0:26:32 > 0:26:36so I'd go out and have a game of five-a-side football with my mates.

0:26:36 > 0:26:40On a Wednesday night, floodlights, on Astroturf, just play for hours.

0:26:42 > 0:26:48If I was 12 again, I think I'd do exactly the same thing.

0:26:48 > 0:26:51At that age, I can't thing of anything I did or would change.

0:26:51 > 0:26:57I'd probably say...just relax a bit and loosen up

0:26:57 > 0:27:00and just enjoy life a little bit more

0:27:00 > 0:27:04and stop trying to be accepted by everybody

0:27:04 > 0:27:07and wanting to be liked by everybody.

0:27:07 > 0:27:09It's fine to be an individual.

0:27:09 > 0:27:13At that age, I would encourage any child

0:27:13 > 0:27:17to really pursue their ambition. I think it's really important.

0:27:17 > 0:27:22Wise words, Charlie, my brother! What else have we learned?

0:27:23 > 0:27:26Wombles are better at recycling than leapfrogging.

0:27:28 > 0:27:32Packed lunches and roller coasters do not mix.

0:27:33 > 0:27:37And finally, that phrase "you're never too old"?

0:27:37 > 0:27:40Well, sometimes you can be.

0:27:40 > 0:27:42A-wee ba-ba ba-ba-ba bye-bye!

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