0:00:02 > 0:00:04Coming up, three celebs become 12 again.
0:00:04 > 0:00:07He always spoke in this, sort of, "Stop taw-king!"
0:00:07 > 0:00:10Mmm-mmm. Nngg-nngg.
0:00:10 > 0:00:14The only thing I ever got told off for was asking difficult questions.
0:00:14 > 0:00:16"You ask too many questions. Shut up!"
0:00:16 > 0:00:21Plus we caught up with Mz Bratt and found out what she was like at 12.
0:00:21 > 0:00:24I was very cheeky, but kind of cool at the same time.
0:00:24 > 0:00:25Excited?
0:00:25 > 0:00:27- Eh?- He is!
0:00:27 > 0:00:30Have you ever wondered what it would have been like to be best mates
0:00:30 > 0:00:34with celebs when they were your age?
0:00:34 > 0:00:37What did they get up to? What were their favourite songs?
0:00:37 > 0:00:40What TV shows did they watch?
0:00:40 > 0:00:43Despite their glamorous lifestyles now,
0:00:43 > 0:00:47once they were a kid with a dream, just like you.
0:00:47 > 0:00:51This show lets you look back in time with your favourite celebs
0:00:51 > 0:00:54as they become 12 again.
0:00:57 > 0:00:58Hello!
0:00:58 > 0:01:03She's a Blue Peter presenter who redefined the word "daring".
0:01:03 > 0:01:07No idea how people do this. Honestly! Argh!
0:01:07 > 0:01:12But in 1995, Helen Skelton was more farm girl than Antarctic hero.
0:01:12 > 0:01:14I didn't think I was a bumpkin.
0:01:14 > 0:01:19I just remember thinking, "I've got to win over some friends."
0:01:19 > 0:01:22The only way to do that was by being cool.
0:01:22 > 0:01:28Well, that is complete and utter nonsense.
0:01:28 > 0:01:31- He's the star of The Impressions Show.- Affirmative.
0:01:31 > 0:01:34He can turn himself into almost any celebrity there is.
0:01:34 > 0:01:38I'm Louis Walsh. I'm a judge on the X Factor.
0:01:38 > 0:01:42Back in 1980, everything was making an impression on Jon Culshaw.
0:01:42 > 0:01:45I was fascinated by everything.
0:01:45 > 0:01:49I did find the world a place of wonder.
0:01:49 > 0:01:51I never missed a trick.
0:01:51 > 0:01:54Aye, aye. Here comes trouble.
0:01:54 > 0:01:59- He is one of the UK's loved acting legends.- God bless her!
0:01:59 > 0:02:02He's even travelled through time with Doctor Who.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05But back in 1941, Bernard Cribbins' home was no TARDIS.
0:02:05 > 0:02:07It was a two up, two down house.
0:02:07 > 0:02:12In that house were my mother and father, myself and my two sisters.
0:02:12 > 0:02:15So it was quite cramped.
0:02:15 > 0:02:18It may all be bright lights and adventures today,
0:02:18 > 0:02:20but it wasn't always that way.
0:02:20 > 0:02:25Let's find out what our celebs were like when they were kids.
0:02:25 > 0:02:29I was really short when I was 12.
0:02:30 > 0:02:33Skinny blond haired kid.
0:02:33 > 0:02:35I was as fit as a butcher's dog.
0:02:35 > 0:02:38Swimming and running about and generally being daft.
0:02:38 > 0:02:42I wore glasses from the age of three. Big thick rimmed glasses.
0:02:42 > 0:02:46I broke them more than once and had to put sellotape round them.
0:02:46 > 0:02:49That's what led to me getting contacts.
0:02:49 > 0:02:53I'd wear T-shirts or an American air force sort of a shirt,
0:02:53 > 0:02:57with pockets here and little things on the shoulders.
0:02:57 > 0:03:00I couldn't imagine what use they were.
0:03:00 > 0:03:04I used to wear shorts and jerseys. I had lots of jerseys.
0:03:04 > 0:03:08I wore clogs with a wooden sole and irons on the bottom.
0:03:08 > 0:03:12You could kick sparks with them. Tup-aw!
0:03:12 > 0:03:13It was cool to have a shell suit.
0:03:13 > 0:03:17And I had a onesy, which are making a comeback,
0:03:17 > 0:03:21and my friend bought the same one and we thought we were slick.
0:03:21 > 0:03:24Seems to me like they all had their own look going on.
0:03:24 > 0:03:26Let's see what else they got up to.
0:03:26 > 0:03:30I grew up on a farm and although I thought that was awful
0:03:30 > 0:03:34cos I used to be jealous that my mates could walk to primary school.
0:03:34 > 0:03:37I lived in the middle of nowhere.
0:03:37 > 0:03:40When I look back, it was the best childhood ever.
0:03:40 > 0:03:45That time, I'd begun to get very interested in birdwatching.
0:03:45 > 0:03:48I remember one occasion which was very painful.
0:03:48 > 0:03:52Coming down the tree, there was one thorn, the wrong way up
0:03:52 > 0:03:56and it went into a part of me I can't mention.
0:03:56 > 0:03:58And I'd gone, "Mmm-mmm. Nngg-nngg!"
0:03:58 > 0:04:03And then I examined myself and I was erm...bleeding.
0:04:03 > 0:04:06Ah, I certainly do not recommend you try that at home.
0:04:06 > 0:04:1140 years later in Ormskirk, Jon was making a big impression at school.
0:04:11 > 0:04:14Mr Platford always spoke in this sort of,
0:04:14 > 0:04:16"Stop taw-king! Stop taw-king!"
0:04:16 > 0:04:22There was the geography teacher who spoke in this sort of tone.
0:04:22 > 0:04:25I was fascinated by his lesson.
0:04:25 > 0:04:29The first few weeks were all about the solar system.
0:04:29 > 0:04:32I'd always do all the drawings.
0:04:32 > 0:04:36Later, we regressed onto hectares and farms. I switched off then.
0:04:36 > 0:04:40VICKY POLLARD: It's not about space no more, it's like rubb-ush!"
0:04:40 > 0:04:43When I went to secondary school,
0:04:43 > 0:04:46I was the only girl to go from my primary school.
0:04:46 > 0:04:49I didn't have any mates. I had to make friends.
0:04:49 > 0:04:52My brother gave me this list of "don'ts".
0:04:52 > 0:04:55Don't put your hands together when you pray.
0:04:55 > 0:04:58You're not gonna make friends that way.
0:04:58 > 0:05:02While Helen was following her brother's rules, in the '40s,
0:05:02 > 0:05:05Bernard was about to get his big break.
0:05:05 > 0:05:06During the war,
0:05:06 > 0:05:10I had been in a play from my school.
0:05:10 > 0:05:15The producer at the theatre saw the play.
0:05:15 > 0:05:19I was offered a job at the local repertory theatre.
0:05:19 > 0:05:22On the fourth of January 1943, I was just 14,
0:05:22 > 0:05:26that's when I became a professional actor.
0:05:26 > 0:05:31I was definitely a good kid when I went to secondary school.
0:05:31 > 0:05:35I was constantly, "Me, me. I know! I've got something to add!"
0:05:35 > 0:05:40The only thing I ever got told off for was asking difficult questions.
0:05:40 > 0:05:44"You ask too many questions. Shut up!"
0:05:44 > 0:05:47Back in the '40s, in Oldham, Bernard's home
0:05:47 > 0:05:50was very different to what you and I have now.
0:05:50 > 0:05:55We didn't have a bath at our house. The tin bath used to hang outside.
0:05:55 > 0:06:00The loo was down the yard. If it was raining, it was a quick sprint.
0:06:00 > 0:06:03Yes, Bernard lived in a house that had no bath or toilet.
0:06:03 > 0:06:06These houses were known as two up, two downs.
0:06:06 > 0:06:11They had two rooms upstairs and two downstairs. They were pretty small.
0:06:11 > 0:06:15The houses had no electricity, no heating and no toilet,
0:06:15 > 0:06:19which was sometimes in the backyard or even at the end of the street!
0:06:19 > 0:06:24I used to build Airfix model dinosaurs and paint them.
0:06:24 > 0:06:28I would find corners of the garden that had Prehistoric looking
0:06:28 > 0:06:33foliage and have this epic battle between a Triceratops and Allosaurus.
0:06:33 > 0:06:37They lived quite a few million years apart from each other!
0:06:37 > 0:06:40No-one had a mobile phone.
0:06:40 > 0:06:45If you wanted to speak to a boy, you gave the number of the phone box.
0:06:45 > 0:06:47You never wanted them to ring your house.
0:06:47 > 0:06:50I once remember getting a Valentine's card at school
0:06:50 > 0:06:53and the poor boy by the end of the day couldn't look at me
0:06:53 > 0:06:58because my brother's mates had said, "Don't go near her again!"
0:06:58 > 0:07:02So whether they were running for the toilet or playing
0:07:02 > 0:07:06with their model dinosaurs, life was very different for our celebs.
0:07:06 > 0:07:08What kind of music were they listening to?
0:07:08 > 0:07:13When I was 12, there was a massive chart battle between Oasis and Blur.
0:07:13 > 0:07:15The battle of the bands is on.
0:07:15 > 0:07:19Blur and Oasis are locked in a battle for the number one slot.
0:07:19 > 0:07:22# You gotta roll with it... #
0:07:22 > 0:07:25In the mid '90s, Britpop was massive.
0:07:25 > 0:07:29The biggest band of all was Oasis, with Liam Gallagher,
0:07:29 > 0:07:34and Blur, whose lead singer was Damon Albarn.
0:07:34 > 0:07:37And they hated each other!
0:07:37 > 0:07:40Liam likes to be more in your face than I do.
0:07:40 > 0:07:42But I'm harder.
0:07:42 > 0:07:46People think you're arrogant, but it's just self-confident.
0:07:46 > 0:07:49It you can't be self-confident, then what can you be?
0:07:49 > 0:07:52In 1995, they went head to head
0:07:52 > 0:07:55in one of the biggest chart battles of all time.
0:07:55 > 0:07:58New music coming live from London's Oxford Street.
0:07:58 > 0:08:02One of many new releases today, alongside Oasis,
0:08:02 > 0:08:04it's Blur's Country House.
0:08:04 > 0:08:06The battle divided the country.
0:08:06 > 0:08:09Oasis represented the north and Blur stood for the south.
0:08:09 > 0:08:12It was obvious what choice Helen made.
0:08:12 > 0:08:16Most people in my school were Oasis.
0:08:16 > 0:08:19They were northern and people liked the fact they were a bit mean
0:08:19 > 0:08:23and a bit childish and they bickered.
0:08:23 > 0:08:29Blur just seemed a bit too kooky, a bit too quirky for us.
0:08:29 > 0:08:33Despite Blur being a bit too kooky for Helen, they won the battle.
0:08:33 > 0:08:37They did have Matt Lucas from Little Britain in their video.
0:08:37 > 0:08:40Blur appeared on Top of the Pops wearing an Oasis T-shirt.
0:08:40 > 0:08:43Talk about bad winners!
0:08:44 > 0:08:48Whether it was Oasis or Blur, the real winner was Britpop.
0:08:48 > 0:08:50I ended up listening to more Britpop.
0:08:50 > 0:08:54The difference with Britpop was there was a band
0:08:54 > 0:08:58and a guitarist and a drummer. It seemed a bit cooler.
0:08:58 > 0:09:02Yeah, so long as your definition of cool is wearing clothes
0:09:02 > 0:09:06like your history teacher!
0:09:06 > 0:09:10Or donning needlessly big coats on stage, no matter hot it got.
0:09:10 > 0:09:12He is not going to feel the benefit.
0:09:12 > 0:09:15So that's what Helen was listening to,
0:09:15 > 0:09:19but what was Bernard listening to over 50 years earlier?
0:09:19 > 0:09:23The only contact we had with music was on the radio.
0:09:23 > 0:09:29When I joined the theatre at 14, I discovered classical music.
0:09:29 > 0:09:33And because the guy who ran the theatre used to select
0:09:33 > 0:09:38all the records for interval music, I was absolutely enchanted
0:09:38 > 0:09:44by Daphnis and Chloe, all sorts of classics I'd never heard of.
0:09:44 > 0:09:49Daphnis and Chloe was composed by this guy, Maurice Ravel.
0:09:49 > 0:09:53The most famous piece he wrote was called Bolero,
0:09:53 > 0:09:57which Dancing On Ice stars Torvill and Dean skated to
0:09:57 > 0:10:02when they won their Olympic gold medal in 1984.
0:10:02 > 0:10:04But while the music may be smooth,
0:10:04 > 0:10:07the story behind the pair using it certainly isn't.
0:10:07 > 0:10:10The original piece is over 17 minutes long.
0:10:10 > 0:10:15They cut it down but it was still 18 seconds over the rules.
0:10:15 > 0:10:18They were allowed to use the piece, so long as their skates
0:10:18 > 0:10:22did not touch the ice during those 18 seconds.
0:10:22 > 0:10:25So that's what they did. Genius! If a bit odd.
0:10:25 > 0:10:28Whilst Bernard was discovering the classics,
0:10:28 > 0:10:32Jon was listening to music that was totally groundbreaking.
0:10:32 > 0:10:35I put music into two categories.
0:10:35 > 0:10:39There was the sort of music that would be played on The Two Ronnies.
0:10:39 > 0:10:45Things like the Nolan Sisters and Barbara Dickson.
0:10:45 > 0:10:47# January, February... #
0:10:47 > 0:10:52And then there was the music that I liked. I liked all the ska stuff.
0:10:54 > 0:10:58Baggy Trousers by Madness. Ghost Town by the Specials.
0:10:58 > 0:11:02# This town is coming like a ghost town... #
0:11:02 > 0:11:07It wasn't just your chirpy pop. They seemed to be saying something.
0:11:07 > 0:11:09It seemed to have an attitude.
0:11:09 > 0:11:14# Do you remember the good old days before the ghost town? #
0:11:14 > 0:11:18The type of ska Jon's talking about is a type of music
0:11:18 > 0:11:20that can be found in many different forms.
0:11:20 > 0:11:26It was also known as two tone, a mix of reggae and punk.
0:11:26 > 0:11:31There were loads of ska bands in the late '70s and '80s.
0:11:31 > 0:11:33There was a fashion that went with it,
0:11:33 > 0:11:36the tight suits and pork pie hats.
0:11:38 > 0:11:42Of course, looking good is only part of it.
0:11:42 > 0:11:44Ska even had its own dance move.
0:11:44 > 0:11:46When ska came on to Top of the Pops,
0:11:46 > 0:11:51to dance to it, all you had to do was... Easy and good fun.
0:11:51 > 0:11:53You've got the dance and the look,
0:11:53 > 0:11:55but there's always one band that takes it too far.
0:11:55 > 0:11:59# For the first time in my life... #
0:11:59 > 0:12:03That's Bad Manners, that is. No, really. Oh, forget it!
0:12:03 > 0:12:07- # Why are you laughing at me? # - Have a guess!
0:12:08 > 0:12:13Still to come, we catch up with the super cool MC rapper Mz Bratt
0:12:13 > 0:12:15and find out what she remembers about being 12.
0:12:15 > 0:12:19Guys started showing interest in stuff.
0:12:19 > 0:12:21And that was awkward.
0:12:21 > 0:12:23Helen takes a trip to the barbers.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25Parents went nuts over it.
0:12:25 > 0:12:28Find out what film made Bernard do this.
0:12:28 > 0:12:30The whole place would go, "Wooh!"
0:12:30 > 0:12:33Jon takes a look into the future.
0:12:33 > 0:12:37I'm not too sure how many things they actually predicted correctly.
0:12:37 > 0:12:40Let's see what big news stories happened
0:12:40 > 0:12:42when our celebs were kids.
0:12:42 > 0:12:47And Bernard witnessed one of the biggest events of the 20th century.
0:12:47 > 0:12:53'I have to tell you now, this country is at war with Germany.'
0:12:53 > 0:12:58The most important thing when I was 12 would have been the war.
0:12:58 > 0:13:02Britain fought the toughest war it had ever experienced.
0:13:02 > 0:13:07'We shall fight on beaches. We shall never surrender.'
0:13:07 > 0:13:10The Second World War lasted between 1939 and 1945
0:13:10 > 0:13:12and affected everyone in Britain.
0:13:12 > 0:13:16It started when Adolf Hitler's Germany invaded Poland.
0:13:16 > 0:13:19Britain and France declared war on Germany
0:13:19 > 0:13:21and countries were drawn in on both sides.
0:13:21 > 0:13:24Air raids, I remember. You'd get the siren.
0:13:24 > 0:13:29My poor mum, she used to be terrified of hearing that,
0:13:29 > 0:13:32used turn her over completely. If we were in bed,
0:13:32 > 0:13:37she would bring us down and we'd be put under the kitchen table.
0:13:37 > 0:13:41And almost immediately, we'd hear "boomph, boomph"
0:13:41 > 0:13:45and that was Manchester or Salford Docks being attacked.
0:13:45 > 0:13:51You would then pray that the all clear would go as soon as possible.
0:13:51 > 0:13:54You'd go back to bed, basically.
0:13:54 > 0:13:56The year before Bernard turned 12,
0:13:56 > 0:13:59Hitler ordered his air force to attack Britain
0:13:59 > 0:14:02dropping bombs onto towns and cities across the country.
0:14:02 > 0:14:05This attack was known as the Battle of Britain.
0:14:05 > 0:14:09With help from their allies, Britain managed to keep the enemy out,
0:14:09 > 0:14:13until Winston Churchill announced Victory in Europe.
0:14:13 > 0:14:19Hostilities will end officially at one minute after midnight tonight.
0:14:19 > 0:14:23The German War is therefore at an end.
0:14:23 > 0:14:26World War II ended in 1945 and thankfully,
0:14:26 > 0:14:29there's not been a world war since.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35Over 50 years later, in 1996, when Helen was 12,
0:14:35 > 0:14:40an event in Manchester changed the city for ever.
0:14:40 > 0:14:43One of the big things that happened was a bomb went off in Manchester.
0:14:43 > 0:14:47A huge clear up operation is under way in Manchester
0:14:47 > 0:14:50after a bomb ripped through the city centre.
0:14:50 > 0:14:53An organisation called the IRA carried out the attacks.
0:14:53 > 0:14:57Their aim was for Ireland to be one country and they used violence
0:14:57 > 0:15:01to try and get rid of British rule in Northern Ireland.
0:15:01 > 0:15:05The bomb caused £1 billion worth of damage in today's money.
0:15:05 > 0:15:08No-one died. However, over 200 people were injured
0:15:08 > 0:15:12and the blast affected a lot of people in the area.
0:15:12 > 0:15:16I started to think, "This could really affect me."
0:15:16 > 0:15:22When a bomb goes off in a place that you've visited, I think
0:15:22 > 0:15:28it becomes a lot more real, if you can picture how somewhere's changed.
0:15:28 > 0:15:32After the bomb, Manchester rebuilt the Arndale Centre and regenerated
0:15:32 > 0:15:36the surrounding areas and now the city is better than ever.
0:15:38 > 0:15:41In 1981, a protest opened a 12-year-old Jon's eyes
0:15:41 > 0:15:44to the threat of nuclear weapons.
0:15:44 > 0:15:48At 12, I remember the protesters on Greenham Common.
0:15:48 > 0:15:53'33 women demonstrators were arrested at Greenham Common Air Base
0:15:53 > 0:15:58'in Berkshire during their protest against nuclear weapons.'
0:15:58 > 0:16:02'I feel that I'm making the greatest contribution for the safety
0:16:02 > 0:16:06'of my family that I possibly can by being here'
0:16:06 > 0:16:10to really try and stop nuclear weapons killing everybody.
0:16:10 > 0:16:15I remember thinking first of all, "They seem rather nice protesters."
0:16:15 > 0:16:18They seemed like the school dinner ladies.
0:16:19 > 0:16:22The protesters at Greenham Common were mainly women
0:16:22 > 0:16:27who were demonstrating against American nuclear missiles
0:16:27 > 0:16:30being stored in Berkshire.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32They were different sorts of protesters.
0:16:32 > 0:16:36You'd think, "If people like this are protesting
0:16:36 > 0:16:41"and if they're concerned, this must be a serious issue."
0:16:41 > 0:16:46# And you just can't take my dreams away... #
0:16:46 > 0:16:49Nuclear weapons caused real fear in the '80s,
0:16:49 > 0:16:52as there were serious tensions between the two great powers
0:16:52 > 0:16:55of the time, the USA and the Soviet Union, led by Russia.
0:16:55 > 0:16:58There were concerns that if a war broke out,
0:16:58 > 0:17:00the weapons would be used.
0:17:00 > 0:17:02It was chilling actually.
0:17:02 > 0:17:06Nuclear weapons, and all of this technology that seemed to be
0:17:06 > 0:17:12exceeding human beings' wisdom at handling it.
0:17:12 > 0:17:17And it was left up to these women to speak up about it.
0:17:17 > 0:17:21The protest continued for years, until 1991,
0:17:21 > 0:17:25when the missiles were removed and the USA and Russia agreed
0:17:25 > 0:17:29to reduce the amount of nuclear weapons they both had.
0:17:33 > 0:17:36Still to come, we ask the all-important question,
0:17:36 > 0:17:39what would our celebs do if they were 12 again?
0:17:39 > 0:17:43My friends that I made when I was 12 are my best friends today.
0:17:43 > 0:17:47I wouldn't mind having a look at myself being 12.
0:17:47 > 0:17:51It were better in them days. Gentler, better times.
0:17:51 > 0:17:53Before that, we've got two minutes
0:17:53 > 0:17:57with Mz Bratt to find out what she was like at 12.
0:17:57 > 0:17:59She's an MC rapping star
0:17:59 > 0:18:02who when not releasing her own material has released songs
0:18:02 > 0:18:05with Dionne Bromfield and was part
0:18:05 > 0:18:09of Gary Barlow's all star collective for Children In Need.
0:18:09 > 0:18:13# Tear it all down, to the roof falls... #
0:18:13 > 0:18:16That's now, but what was Mz Bratt like when she was 12?
0:18:16 > 0:18:18All in all, I was a good kid.
0:18:18 > 0:18:24Was very cheeky and mischievous, but kind of cool at the same time.
0:18:24 > 0:18:27She may have been kind of cool, but her home life was quite different.
0:18:27 > 0:18:29My dad got me into MCing.
0:18:29 > 0:18:34He was in a collective called Spiral Tribe, which was acid house music.
0:18:34 > 0:18:37My childhood was very colourful. My dad used to squat.
0:18:37 > 0:18:39He never had his own house.
0:18:39 > 0:18:44So at an early age, I got to see the homeless lifestyle.
0:18:44 > 0:18:49It was difficult to connect with young people my age.
0:18:49 > 0:18:51With Mz Bratt's growing interest in music,
0:18:51 > 0:18:54who was her favourite pop star?
0:18:54 > 0:18:58- I was a huge Ms Dynamite fan. - # I'm Ms Dy-na-mi-tee... #
0:19:00 > 0:19:02My mum used to play that as well.
0:19:02 > 0:19:05Her music had no boundaries, in terms of generations.
0:19:07 > 0:19:10# Negativity that you impose on me... #
0:19:10 > 0:19:15She kind of taught through her music how a man should treat a woman,
0:19:15 > 0:19:19so it was nice to have that voice.
0:19:19 > 0:19:23If you was too embarrassed to go to your mum,
0:19:23 > 0:19:28it's like Ms Dynamite was your kind of surrogate mum.
0:19:28 > 0:19:30# Happiness, that's my target
0:19:30 > 0:19:32# But right now, I feel like... #
0:19:32 > 0:19:37But did Ms Dynamite's words of wisdom about the boys help?
0:19:37 > 0:19:42At that age, guys started showing interest and stuff.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46And that was really awkward cos you don't know how to deal with that.
0:19:46 > 0:19:51I remember the first boy I went out with in high school.
0:19:51 > 0:19:53We went out for a day
0:19:53 > 0:19:56and we spent the whole time running away from each other.
0:19:56 > 0:20:01We were so embarrassed and shy. It's such an awkward feeling.
0:20:01 > 0:20:04I'm glad that's over!
0:20:04 > 0:20:08# Time flies, focus, what's the point if you don't enjoy the moments? #
0:20:08 > 0:20:11The best thing about being 12
0:20:11 > 0:20:15is just being able to get away with everything.
0:20:16 > 0:20:20I wouldn't really want to change anything
0:20:20 > 0:20:26cos I guess that was all part of the learning curve of life
0:20:26 > 0:20:28and I learned a lot,
0:20:28 > 0:20:31when I was 12, going from a young kid to a teenager.
0:20:34 > 0:20:37# Yeah! #
0:20:38 > 0:20:41Time to get back to our three celebs.
0:20:41 > 0:20:43And find out what Helen,
0:20:43 > 0:20:46Jon and Bernard were watching when they were kids.
0:20:46 > 0:20:49When I was 12, Ant and Dec were massive.
0:20:50 > 0:20:55They had been in Byker Grove, they'd released a single.
0:20:55 > 0:21:01# You will never need to fear, just as long as I am here.. #
0:21:01 > 0:21:04And then they got given their own show.
0:21:07 > 0:21:10And it was sort of a game show with different sections in,
0:21:10 > 0:21:12so they'd have various kids on.
0:21:12 > 0:21:16And one of the things they did was a section called Beat The Barber.
0:21:16 > 0:21:19Beat The Barber was one of Ant and Dec's most controversial
0:21:19 > 0:21:20TV moments ever.
0:21:20 > 0:21:23Everyone, do you think Rob should still go through with it?
0:21:23 > 0:21:26- ALL: Yeah!- The aim of the game was to try and identify a picture
0:21:26 > 0:21:28of a celebrity with a bald head.
0:21:28 > 0:21:31If you guessed right, you'd win a prize.
0:21:31 > 0:21:33- Robbie off Take That. - It's not.- It's not.
0:21:33 > 0:21:36If you got it wrong, then you'd have your head shaved.
0:21:36 > 0:21:38ANT AND DEC: Do your stuff! CHEERING
0:21:38 > 0:21:41Gutted.
0:21:41 > 0:21:45I remember watching it and thinking, "Oh, no, that's awful."
0:21:45 > 0:21:47But parents went nuts over it.
0:21:47 > 0:21:50They certainly did.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53And everyone kicked off when this girl took to the barber's chair.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56Oh!
0:21:56 > 0:21:58It was all over the newspapers, it was on Points On View.
0:22:05 > 0:22:07And what about Laurie, is she distraught?
0:22:07 > 0:22:10I wasn't unhappy at all, I thought it was really funny
0:22:10 > 0:22:12being on the programme and getting my hair cut off.
0:22:12 > 0:22:14I don't know...
0:22:14 > 0:22:16Nobody could justify why they did it.
0:22:16 > 0:22:19No, I still don't think that's acceptable. No.
0:22:19 > 0:22:23DEC: Laurie Slater did not Beat The Barber.
0:22:23 > 0:22:26Apart from totally enraging parents across the land,
0:22:26 > 0:22:30The Ant And Dec Show was the start of a very successful TV career.
0:22:30 > 0:22:34Let's rewind to the 1940s and find out what Bernard was watching
0:22:34 > 0:22:35instead of the telly.
0:22:35 > 0:22:39I suppose the one thing that would have been nice, as a 12-year-old,
0:22:39 > 0:22:41would have been to have TV.
0:22:41 > 0:22:44We couldn't afford it, and there was no electricity
0:22:44 > 0:22:46and that would have been magical.
0:22:46 > 0:22:50Well, even if he did have a TV, he still wouldn't be able to watch it,
0:22:50 > 0:22:53because during the war, television was shut down.
0:22:53 > 0:22:58So the only on-screen entertainment for people was the local cinema.
0:22:58 > 0:23:02And the first film I remember was something called The Clutching Hand.
0:23:05 > 0:23:08And nobody sat and watched and listened and laughed.
0:23:08 > 0:23:13There was sort of comments and all the rest of it.
0:23:13 > 0:23:17But then The Clutching Hand comes on and the whole place would go, "Ooh."
0:23:19 > 0:23:23Don't touch anything if you don't want to be blown to pieces.
0:23:23 > 0:23:26CACKLING
0:23:32 > 0:23:35The Clutching Hand, or The Amazing Exploits Of The Clutching Hand,
0:23:35 > 0:23:38to give it its full title, was a murder mystery story
0:23:38 > 0:23:41about a scientist who found the formula for making gold.
0:23:41 > 0:23:43I've done it, it works, Duncan, it works!
0:23:43 > 0:23:45But before he could pass on the secret,
0:23:45 > 0:23:48the scientist mysteriously disappeared.
0:23:50 > 0:23:52Ooohhh...
0:23:53 > 0:23:54Help! >
0:23:54 > 0:23:56- What was that?- I don't know.
0:23:56 > 0:23:59Follow that car!
0:23:59 > 0:24:01The story was told in 15 parts,
0:24:01 > 0:24:04a detective tried to track down the villain known as The Clutching Hand.
0:24:04 > 0:24:06"I warn you.
0:24:06 > 0:24:10"Drop this case if you value your life.
0:24:10 > 0:24:11"The Clutching Hand."
0:24:11 > 0:24:14SHE SCREAMS
0:24:14 > 0:24:17For the kids in the audience in the '30s and '40s...
0:24:17 > 0:24:18CACKLING
0:24:18 > 0:24:21..it was super spooky stuff.
0:24:21 > 0:24:23Is it over yet?
0:24:24 > 0:24:27Yeah, like I'm not even scared, so...
0:24:27 > 0:24:30Right, let's go 40 years in the future to the 1980s
0:24:30 > 0:24:32and find out what Jon was watching on the box.
0:24:32 > 0:24:34The TV in 1980 I used to love,
0:24:34 > 0:24:37I always used to watch Tomorrow's World.
0:24:37 > 0:24:42The 1980s' Tomorrow's Worlds are the most '80s programmes.
0:24:43 > 0:24:45Tomorrow's World was a science show
0:24:45 > 0:24:49that was all about the technology of tomorrow, hence the title.
0:24:49 > 0:24:54This machine is capable of playing a video disc.
0:24:54 > 0:24:56And it was on the TV for nearly 40 years.
0:24:56 > 0:24:59If you don't feel like all this energetic walking
0:24:59 > 0:25:01on your way to work, read your newspaper.
0:25:01 > 0:25:05The show tried out new inventions and technology in the studio.
0:25:05 > 0:25:08And the latest way to find just which of the rainbow colours
0:25:08 > 0:25:12the plant uses to grow is, believe it or not, to...
0:25:12 > 0:25:14listen to it.
0:25:14 > 0:25:17They often correctly predicted what gadgets we'd be using in the future.
0:25:17 > 0:25:18Eugh!
0:25:18 > 0:25:22But sometimes they were well off the mark.
0:25:22 > 0:25:26It doesn't have a chain from the pedals to the back wheel.
0:25:26 > 0:25:27I'm not too sure how many things
0:25:27 > 0:25:30that they actually predicted correctly.
0:25:30 > 0:25:32The squash ball warming machine.
0:25:32 > 0:25:34The talking trash can.
0:25:34 > 0:25:35Thank you. Thank you.
0:25:35 > 0:25:39Table-sized boards with clocks all over them.
0:25:39 > 0:25:42And one of them's a toaster and one's... I don't know...
0:25:42 > 0:25:44None of that sort of stuff happened.
0:25:44 > 0:25:47It's so simple that even I can do it.
0:25:47 > 0:25:50Maybe not, but with inventions like a robot that can make a cup of tea,
0:25:50 > 0:25:54it's not such a bad thing. Milk, no sugar, please.
0:25:54 > 0:25:55Mind your fingers, mate. Oh.
0:25:57 > 0:26:00So those were the TV memories of our three celebs.
0:26:00 > 0:26:03But what do they remember most about being 12?
0:26:03 > 0:26:07I had no restraints as far as I could remember at all,
0:26:07 > 0:26:10except to behave myself and not break windows and be...
0:26:10 > 0:26:11absolutely stupid.
0:26:11 > 0:26:13Being a 12-year-old girl is awful.
0:26:13 > 0:26:17Girls have to deal with much more things than boys do.
0:26:17 > 0:26:20All these things happen to you that you don't understand,
0:26:20 > 0:26:23and they're pretty scary and pretty embarrassing.
0:26:23 > 0:26:26It was all about going out, getting on your bike
0:26:26 > 0:26:29and just living in the world and having fun.
0:26:29 > 0:26:33Climbing up trees, being sort of tired from playing out.
0:26:33 > 0:26:36Lots of things happened that stress you out,
0:26:36 > 0:26:39but you just have to take a step back and think,
0:26:39 > 0:26:42"before long, these confusing bits of the jigsaw
0:26:42 > 0:26:44"will make a picture, and you'll be fine."
0:26:44 > 0:26:46I had a very happy time.
0:26:46 > 0:26:49I wouldn't mind going back and having a look at myself being 12.
0:26:49 > 0:26:51It would be great.
0:26:51 > 0:26:54Oh, I'm getting recollections now, aren't I?
0:26:54 > 0:26:58Oh, it were better in them days. Gentler, better times.
0:26:58 > 0:27:00I don't think I'd do that much differently, because...
0:27:00 > 0:27:02although I say I had a stressful time,
0:27:02 > 0:27:05I actually had quite a good time,
0:27:05 > 0:27:09and my friends that I made when I was 12 are my best friends today.
0:27:09 > 0:27:12If I was granted 30 seconds with my 12-year-old self,
0:27:12 > 0:27:15I'd probably said, "Right, I'm you from the future.
0:27:15 > 0:27:18"Trust me, it's all right. Trust your instincts.
0:27:18 > 0:27:22"Two, don't let anybody tell you that you can't do something.
0:27:22 > 0:27:25"If you really believe you can do it, stick to your guns
0:27:25 > 0:27:26"and you jolly well do it."
0:27:26 > 0:27:30I remember getting so stressed out about shoes and hair cuts
0:27:30 > 0:27:32and it all becomes a bit irrelevant.
0:27:32 > 0:27:36Just do the things that you enjoy doing and then you'll be happy.
0:27:36 > 0:27:39Ultimately, if you're happy, you're ticking all the right boxes.
0:27:41 > 0:27:43HE MOUTHS
0:27:43 > 0:27:45And my 12-year-old self will be going...
0:27:47 > 0:27:48"Eh?"
0:27:49 > 0:27:51So, what have we learnt?
0:27:51 > 0:27:54If you ever discover the formula for making gold, don't tell anyone.
0:27:54 > 0:27:56Help! CACKLING
0:27:56 > 0:27:59If you're insecure, don't go on TV dressed as Henry VIII.
0:27:59 > 0:28:01# Why are you laughing at me? #
0:28:01 > 0:28:04And if you get your lovely auburn hair hacked off on TV,
0:28:04 > 0:28:06make sure you can take a joke.
0:28:06 > 0:28:08It was really funny being on the programme
0:28:08 > 0:28:09and getting my hair cut off.
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