Episode 5

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0:00:04 > 0:00:07- On 12 Again:- I looked like a demon child. And I was a demon child!

0:00:07 > 0:00:10It took me four years to ever have a crush again!

0:00:10 > 0:00:16I realised they were my sister Kate's big school...knicknacks!

0:00:16 > 0:00:18Plus we download everything we can

0:00:18 > 0:00:20about Friday Downloader Richard Wisker.

0:00:20 > 0:00:23My friends were like, go on, we'll have a bet,

0:00:23 > 0:00:25who can get the first kiss.

0:00:25 > 0:00:29None of my friends had a first kiss, but I did on the night, so I won!

0:00:29 > 0:00:31I was wearing me sister's knickers.

0:00:31 > 0:00:33Need an explanation? I know I do! Well...

0:00:33 > 0:00:37Have you ever wondered what it would've been like to be best mates

0:00:37 > 0:00:40with your favourite celebs when they were your age?

0:00:40 > 0:00:44What did they get up to? What were their favourite songs?

0:00:44 > 0:00:46And what TV shows did they watch?

0:00:46 > 0:00:50Because despite the glamorous lifestyles they now lead,

0:00:50 > 0:00:54once they were a kid with a dream, just like you.

0:00:54 > 0:00:58This show lets you look back in time with your favourite celebs

0:00:58 > 0:01:00as they become 12 Again.

0:01:05 > 0:01:07Good morning, campers!

0:01:07 > 0:01:11This cheeky chap is one of the country's all-round entertainers,

0:01:11 > 0:01:15but back in 1994

0:01:15 > 0:01:18it was Joe Swash's mum who needed a break!

0:01:18 > 0:01:22When I was 12, I think I was quite misunderstood,

0:01:22 > 0:01:24I was quite naughty.

0:01:24 > 0:01:28I was into everything. I was really mischievous.

0:01:28 > 0:01:34She's the Sarah Jane Adventurer who truly takes aliens in her stride,

0:01:34 > 0:01:38but back in 2002, Anjli Mohindra was very much down to earth.

0:01:38 > 0:01:41When I was 12, I was a geek. A complete geek.

0:01:41 > 0:01:44I did everything I was told to. It changed as I got older

0:01:44 > 0:01:47and I got a bit naughtier. But at 12, I was an angel.

0:01:47 > 0:01:51- Right, Mr Burgess!- Ah! - How do I look? It's showtime!

0:01:51 > 0:01:54You may know him as the Guv'nor in the Slammer...

0:01:54 > 0:01:58- Who's the Guv'nor?! - CHEERING

0:01:58 > 0:02:01But in 1967, Ted Robbins was all over the place.

0:02:01 > 0:02:04Just before I turned 12, I went to 14 different schools.

0:02:04 > 0:02:07My dad was in show business.

0:02:07 > 0:02:10I never settled down and that made me anxious.

0:02:10 > 0:02:14All are massive celebs today, and we're going to find out

0:02:14 > 0:02:18everything you need to know about when they were 12.

0:02:18 > 0:02:22So let's meet their 12-year-old selves.

0:02:22 > 0:02:26When I was 12, I was a rather plump version of Harry Potter

0:02:26 > 0:02:27with horn-rim glasses on.

0:02:27 > 0:02:32They're quite trendy now, these frames. I see them now and I think,

0:02:32 > 0:02:35why would you choose to wear them?! I HAD to wear them.

0:02:35 > 0:02:37I was really cheeky looking,

0:02:37 > 0:02:41red hair and it was curly, and I had freckles.

0:02:41 > 0:02:44My look was perfect to my personality.

0:02:44 > 0:02:49I looked like a demon child. And I WAS a demon child!

0:02:49 > 0:02:52I can give you just one word, with three abbreviations, BFG.

0:02:52 > 0:02:55I was like the Big Friendly Giant.

0:02:55 > 0:02:59I looked amazing, for me, then, I thought I was amazing looking.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02Clothing was always an issue.

0:03:02 > 0:03:06I craved more than anything, a pair of sea dogs.

0:03:06 > 0:03:10They were brushed denim and the bottoms went out like a bell.

0:03:10 > 0:03:13I had those flares that everyone was wearing when I was 12.

0:03:13 > 0:03:17Everything was flarey. Jeans, trousers, school trousers.

0:03:17 > 0:03:20They hung off the floor so you could see a bit of my white sock.

0:03:20 > 0:03:22I always had my button done up to the top.

0:03:22 > 0:03:24Because I was a bit of a geek as well.

0:03:24 > 0:03:28And then I had massive eyebrows. Like literally like caterpillars.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30I don't think I even bothered with my clothes.

0:03:30 > 0:03:34I was putting holes into things left, right and centre.

0:03:34 > 0:03:37My shoes would last three days!

0:03:37 > 0:03:41I'd have worn a sack! As long as I was allowed out to play football.

0:03:41 > 0:03:46So, that's what our celebs looked like, but what do they get up to?

0:03:46 > 0:03:49I was the oldest in a family of five. Four sisters.

0:03:49 > 0:03:52And they played practical jokes on me.

0:03:52 > 0:03:55Halloween came and one of them, I think it was Jane,

0:03:55 > 0:03:59hid under my bed and then my sister Jane started going, "wooohh".

0:03:59 > 0:04:01And I shot out of the bed! I went mad!

0:04:01 > 0:04:03Bullying their big brother!

0:04:05 > 0:04:08I got caught for mostly everything I'd done.

0:04:08 > 0:04:12I've got one of those faces that you can read my mind.

0:04:12 > 0:04:16Mum could always tell before I got into mischief.

0:04:16 > 0:04:19She always said, you'd go a little bit quiet,

0:04:19 > 0:04:21your eyes would scan around the room

0:04:21 > 0:04:23and she'd be like, yeah, he's up to something.

0:04:23 > 0:04:25And within ten minutes,

0:04:25 > 0:04:29I was chucking eggs or something out of a window.

0:04:29 > 0:04:30Or doing something silly.

0:04:32 > 0:04:35I started off life in Nottingham.

0:04:35 > 0:04:38And then moved to Germany when I was nine and came back

0:04:38 > 0:04:42to exactly the same house and same friends when I was 12.

0:04:42 > 0:04:46Anjli and her family spent three years in Germany whilst her dad

0:04:46 > 0:04:48served in the armed forces.

0:04:48 > 0:04:51I was relieved, but also I really missed my German friends.

0:04:51 > 0:04:54But what we liked to do, wasn't quite the same.

0:04:54 > 0:04:57We were still playing Knock Knock Ginger or whatever.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00And Spider Spider In. And hide and seek, all these games.

0:05:00 > 0:05:04But when I came back here, that was like, no, why are you doing that?

0:05:04 > 0:05:07You should be listening to S Club 7 and looking at boys.

0:05:10 > 0:05:14When I was just 12, something really fundamental happened to me.

0:05:14 > 0:05:16I went to hospital for a long period

0:05:16 > 0:05:19with an old-fashioned disease called rheumatic fever.

0:05:19 > 0:05:24The treatment for rheumatic fever consisted of penicillin,

0:05:24 > 0:05:27aspirin and bed rest.

0:05:27 > 0:05:32Bed rest meant literally lying on your bed 24 hours a day.

0:05:32 > 0:05:34I couldn't even get up to go to the lavatory.

0:05:36 > 0:05:38I grew up in north London, near the Arsenal,

0:05:38 > 0:05:42and I went to Highbury Grove School. Our school had big playgrounds,

0:05:42 > 0:05:46and they used to rent the playgrounds out to the Arsenal on Saturday.

0:05:46 > 0:05:50So in return, they'd give our school some tickets.

0:05:50 > 0:05:52I worked out that if I got in detention on a Friday,

0:05:52 > 0:05:55my head of year would give me a ticket to the Arsenal.

0:05:55 > 0:05:59It was perfect! I had my little world sussed!

0:05:59 > 0:06:02After a typical day of school, we'd go on MSN Messenger

0:06:02 > 0:06:06and chat for about six hours with the same mates I'd been at school with all day.

0:06:06 > 0:06:09I was really shy. I didn't really talk to anybody,

0:06:09 > 0:06:15but I think moving to England and doing drama completely changed me.

0:06:15 > 0:06:19Because it forced me to come out of my shell a bit and talk to people.

0:06:19 > 0:06:21Then you couldn't shut me up!

0:06:21 > 0:06:25I'd be sat on the back of buses talking to old grandmas.

0:06:25 > 0:06:28I was quite good at crafts and making things.

0:06:28 > 0:06:31And for myself, I liked to make forts.

0:06:31 > 0:06:33I loved the American Civil War,

0:06:33 > 0:06:36but my mum would say, make something for your sisters,

0:06:36 > 0:06:40keep them occupied. So I was quite adept at doll's houses

0:06:40 > 0:06:43and I made one or two quite good doll's houses.

0:06:43 > 0:06:46And to this day, I still quite like a doll's house.

0:06:46 > 0:06:47Like to look inside.

0:06:50 > 0:06:54When I was 12, I didn't allow myself to have a crush on anyone,

0:06:54 > 0:06:57because when I was 11, I was in love with this guy called Danny.

0:06:57 > 0:07:01He didn't know. I got sent an e-mail to find out how compatible we were.

0:07:01 > 0:07:04It asked all about who he was and who you were,

0:07:04 > 0:07:07your favourite colour, his favourite colour,

0:07:07 > 0:07:10which I obviously knew. It all got sent back to the girl who sent it me

0:07:10 > 0:07:14and she was the big mouth at school, so she told EVERYONE.

0:07:14 > 0:07:16It took me about four years to have a crush again.

0:07:16 > 0:07:20I wouldn't let myself go there, because it was so humiliating!

0:07:23 > 0:07:25The ultimate humiliation came for me,

0:07:25 > 0:07:28from a family of one boy and four girls,

0:07:28 > 0:07:30when one very busy morning,

0:07:30 > 0:07:34my mother was trying to get us all clothed, and I was going,

0:07:34 > 0:07:38"Mum! I haven't got any underpants!" She said, "Put these on."

0:07:38 > 0:07:42She threw a pair of blue undies at me. I put them on.

0:07:42 > 0:07:44Later, I realised they were

0:07:44 > 0:07:48my sister Kate's big school knickknacks.

0:07:48 > 0:07:52I was wearing me sister's knickers!

0:07:52 > 0:07:54Mmm. OK!

0:07:54 > 0:07:57That's what Joe, Anjli and Ted were getting up to

0:07:57 > 0:08:01when they were kids. What kind of music were they listening to?

0:08:01 > 0:08:05At 12, you're just developing your own tastes,

0:08:05 > 0:08:08your likes and dislikes.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11I started off liking... There was a neighbour next door to me,

0:08:11 > 0:08:15his name was Lee, and he was into heavy metal.

0:08:15 > 0:08:18And he was a bit older than me. He was 18, 19.

0:08:18 > 0:08:20And he played his music outside the window.

0:08:20 > 0:08:25And I remember he chucked me down a disc of Guns N' Roses.

0:08:25 > 0:08:27# Whoa, sweet child o' mine. #

0:08:27 > 0:08:29In the '80s and early '90s,

0:08:29 > 0:08:33Guns N' Roses became one of the biggest hard rock bands of all time,

0:08:33 > 0:08:38selling over 100 million albums worldwide. They were massive.

0:08:38 > 0:08:40Knocking On Heaven's Door was one of my favourites.

0:08:40 > 0:08:43I sang that at a talent show in primary school.

0:08:43 > 0:08:45It didn't go down very well.

0:08:45 > 0:08:49# Knock, knock knocking on heaven's door

0:08:49 > 0:08:51# Hey, hey

0:08:51 > 0:08:52# Hey, hey, yeah. #

0:08:52 > 0:08:55When I was about 12, my dad bought me a Walkman,

0:08:55 > 0:08:59and I remember listening to my Walkman for hours.

0:08:59 > 0:09:03It's weird when you're 12, because you become obsessive about stuff.

0:09:03 > 0:09:07I think as a 12-year-old, that's pretty cool,

0:09:07 > 0:09:09having Guns N' Roses as my first band.

0:09:09 > 0:09:13It could've been a lot worse. It could have been Aqua, Barbie Doll!

0:09:13 > 0:09:18All them really embarrassing ones, but, yeah, Guns N' Roses I'm pleased with that.

0:09:18 > 0:09:22Let's leave Joe knock, knock, knocking on Heaven's door.

0:09:22 > 0:09:26Who's there? Doctor. Doctor Who? Oh, you've heard it.

0:09:26 > 0:09:31- Let's see who Ted listened to. - When I was 12, it was all happening.

0:09:31 > 0:09:34That was a time when there was an explosion in music.

0:09:34 > 0:09:39We'd play the records of the time that were sent to us or we bought.

0:09:39 > 0:09:43The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, different artists at the time.

0:09:43 > 0:09:46Gilbert O'Sullivan, I was hugely fond of.

0:09:46 > 0:09:51He was around when I was 12, I think. James Taylor. Carole King.

0:09:51 > 0:09:53You'd listen to anything and everything.

0:09:53 > 0:09:57There seemed to be loads of bands in the '60s.

0:09:57 > 0:09:59But who was Ted's favourite?

0:09:59 > 0:10:02Because my mom and Paul McCartney were first cousins,

0:10:02 > 0:10:06the Beatles were hugely part of our lives.

0:10:06 > 0:10:08We got the albums sent from Apple Records.

0:10:08 > 0:10:10And we'd listen to them.

0:10:10 > 0:10:13And I genuinely loved them, as so many millions of others did.

0:10:13 > 0:10:16In case you missed that,

0:10:16 > 0:10:19Ted is ACTUALLY related to the legend that is Sir Paul McCartney.

0:10:19 > 0:10:21Whether you like them or not,

0:10:21 > 0:10:26the Beatles really are one of the most influential bands EVER. Their concerts were legendary,

0:10:26 > 0:10:28and girls often screamed louder than the music.

0:10:28 > 0:10:32And then fainted! A bit like a Justin Bieber concert.

0:10:32 > 0:10:36That was the effect the Beatles had. It was incredible!

0:10:36 > 0:10:39Even though Ted loved the music that was around in the '60s,

0:10:39 > 0:10:42it doesn't mean that some songs didn't get on his nerves.

0:10:42 > 0:10:46The most annoying song for me when I was 12 was Britain's entry

0:10:46 > 0:10:49for Eurovision by Sandie Shaw. A good song, but it was

0:10:49 > 0:10:53Puppet On A String, and it was in a loop in my head for three months!

0:10:53 > 0:10:56# I

0:10:56 > 0:10:57# Wonder if... #

0:10:57 > 0:11:00As a matter of interest, Sandie Shaw was the first ever UK act

0:11:00 > 0:11:04to win the Eurovision with this song.

0:11:04 > 0:11:06# Like a puppet on a striiiiing

0:11:06 > 0:11:08# Boo, boo, boo

0:11:10 > 0:11:12# Like a puppet on a...

0:11:14 > 0:11:16BOTH: # String. #

0:11:16 > 0:11:17Drives me mad.

0:11:17 > 0:11:18# I wonder... #

0:11:18 > 0:11:21Let's leave Ted trying to get that out of his head

0:11:21 > 0:11:24and find out what Anjli was listening to.

0:11:24 > 0:11:30Music for me was all over TV. We had all the music channels.

0:11:30 > 0:11:33Apart from being obsessed by MSN,

0:11:33 > 0:11:36we used to watch music videos all the time.

0:11:36 > 0:11:38So like Las Ketchup, Destiny's Child.

0:11:38 > 0:11:41# Now that you're out of my life I'm so much better

0:11:41 > 0:11:44# Thought I'd be weak without you but I'm stronger. #

0:11:44 > 0:11:46It made me feel a bit like a woman.

0:11:46 > 0:11:50Sounds so cliched, but Destiny's Child's song, I'm A Survivor.

0:11:50 > 0:11:53# I'm a survivor I'm not gon' give up

0:11:53 > 0:11:56# I'm not gon' stop I'm gon' work harder. #

0:11:56 > 0:12:00I've never really had idols. But when I first saw Destiny's Child,

0:12:00 > 0:12:05I was like, that's what I want to be like, that strong, sassy woman.

0:12:05 > 0:12:10And they were gorgeous too. And you just wanted to be like Beyonce.

0:12:10 > 0:12:13Even though Anjli was a massive fan of Destiny's Child,

0:12:13 > 0:12:16she wasn't too cool to learn the dance moves

0:12:16 > 0:12:19to The Ketchup Song by Las Ketchup.

0:12:19 > 0:12:21# Bugui an de buididipi... #

0:12:21 > 0:12:24It was really weird. That was the dance. And everybody learned it.

0:12:24 > 0:12:27Me and my cousins, who were all much younger than me

0:12:27 > 0:12:29so they didn't look as daft.

0:12:29 > 0:12:32And I was the BFG in the back, doing that.

0:12:32 > 0:12:34We used to do it at family parties.

0:12:34 > 0:12:38Anjli wasn't the only person dancing to The Ketchup Song.

0:12:38 > 0:12:42This song got to number one in practically every European country.

0:12:43 > 0:12:47Still to come, we catch up with Richard Wisker

0:12:47 > 0:12:49and find out what life was like when he was younger.

0:12:49 > 0:12:54The best thing about being 12, you can get away with being cheeky.

0:12:54 > 0:12:56Anjli discovers a brand-new TV channel.

0:12:56 > 0:13:01You could watch it all day. Even when summer holidays weren't on.

0:13:01 > 0:13:03Ted revisits one of his comic heroes.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06What I loved about him was, he was a real old-fashioned type of comic,

0:13:06 > 0:13:10- and I love old-fashioned comics. - And Joe goes down the East End.

0:13:10 > 0:13:13I was strangely drawn to EastEnders. I was a bit of a fan.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18But first, Joe, Anjli and Ted tell us

0:13:18 > 0:13:21what big moments happened when they were kids.

0:13:21 > 0:13:25The Reverend Martin Luther King is dead, killed by an assassin's bullet.

0:13:25 > 0:13:29To see Martin Luther King on your screen and the aftermath of him

0:13:29 > 0:13:34being shot, was immensely moving and disturbing for a 12-year-old.

0:13:34 > 0:13:38When Ted was 12, in some parts of America, black people

0:13:38 > 0:13:42were racially discriminated against and separated from white people.

0:13:42 > 0:13:47They were separated in schools, buses and even toilet facilities.

0:13:47 > 0:13:50This led to the African-American Civil Rights Movement,

0:13:50 > 0:13:54which aimed to give everyone in America equal rights.

0:13:54 > 0:13:57I think looking at those pictures when I was 12,

0:13:57 > 0:14:01especially when you saw scenes of the riots in the deep South,

0:14:01 > 0:14:03and you saw what terrible scenes took place,

0:14:03 > 0:14:07you realised it wasn't all just the Hollywood image of America

0:14:07 > 0:14:11that was coming over, there was a whole experience going on.

0:14:11 > 0:14:14Martin Luther King was one of the most prominent leaders

0:14:14 > 0:14:16in the Civil Rights Movement.

0:14:16 > 0:14:20And in 1963, he gave his famous I Have A Dream speech to

0:14:20 > 0:14:24over 200,000 civil rights supporters calling for racial equality

0:14:24 > 0:14:27and an end to discrimination.

0:14:27 > 0:14:30It was a defining moment in the American Civil Rights Movement.

0:14:30 > 0:14:34I was aware of some of the words that Martin Luther King used,

0:14:34 > 0:14:36because I loved poetry and I loved drama

0:14:36 > 0:14:40and those words really stuck out in my mind.

0:14:40 > 0:14:43On 10th June 1968, Martin Luther King was shot

0:14:43 > 0:14:47and killed by a man who disagreed with what he stood for.

0:14:47 > 0:14:51After his death, the Civil Rights Movement continued

0:14:51 > 0:14:53and 40 years later, America voted in

0:14:53 > 0:14:57their first ever African-American president, Barack Obama.

0:14:57 > 0:14:59Congratulations, Mr President. CHEERING

0:14:59 > 0:15:03In 2001, just before Anjli turned 12,

0:15:03 > 0:15:06one event changed the world for ever.

0:15:06 > 0:15:10One of the biggest news stories when I was starting secondary school -

0:15:10 > 0:15:14in fact, it was in my first week of secondary school,

0:15:14 > 0:15:16was on 11th September 2001.

0:15:18 > 0:15:21Hello. The story this afternoon: terror in America,

0:15:21 > 0:15:24explosions devastate New York City.

0:15:24 > 0:15:29Hello, and now to one of the most terrible events in American history.

0:15:29 > 0:15:33Three and a half hours ago, two of the United States' biggest cities

0:15:33 > 0:15:35were hit by massive terrorist explosions.

0:15:35 > 0:15:40Two passenger planes flew into the World Trade Center in New York,

0:15:40 > 0:15:42causing the entire building to collapse.

0:15:42 > 0:15:44Everybody remembers that day.

0:15:44 > 0:15:47Everybody was watching the news. It was everywhere.

0:15:47 > 0:15:50On the morning of September 11th, 2001,

0:15:50 > 0:15:53Islamic extremists killed nearly 3,000 people

0:15:53 > 0:15:56in the worst terrorist attack ever on the USA.

0:15:56 > 0:15:59How it affected me personally, was because

0:15:59 > 0:16:02my dad was in the Army, and we lived in Germany on an army base,

0:16:02 > 0:16:05everything got a lot more panicked.

0:16:05 > 0:16:07It was less about how we felt about it,

0:16:07 > 0:16:12and more about how all the grown-ups were really nervous.

0:16:12 > 0:16:15The destruction of the Twin Towers had a huge impact on the world.

0:16:15 > 0:16:18The American President declared a "war on terror"

0:16:18 > 0:16:22and American and British forces led an invasion of Afghanistan

0:16:22 > 0:16:25to try and hunt down the man behind the attacks, Osama bin Laden.

0:16:25 > 0:16:29He was finally killed by American forces in 2011.

0:16:29 > 0:16:34In one way or another, what happened on September 11th affected us all.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36The site where the Twin Towers once stood

0:16:36 > 0:16:39is now a memorial to those who lost their lives that day.

0:16:39 > 0:16:45But for Joe, a big personal event changed his life for ever.

0:16:45 > 0:16:48The biggest thing that happened to me when I was 12 -

0:16:48 > 0:16:53my dad died when I was 12, which is really difficult when you're 12.

0:16:53 > 0:16:57At 12, it's just too much information to try and work out,

0:16:57 > 0:16:59too many feelings.

0:16:59 > 0:17:03Being at the age where you need a little bit of direction,

0:17:03 > 0:17:05you need that little bit of,

0:17:05 > 0:17:10you need to be learning off your dad how to be a man and stuff.

0:17:10 > 0:17:14Things changed completely from that day forever.

0:17:14 > 0:17:17I didn't see myself as a child any more,

0:17:17 > 0:17:20I wanted to help. My mum looked at me a little bit different.

0:17:20 > 0:17:22Relied on me a little bit more.

0:17:22 > 0:17:25Financially, from that point, we were really hard up.

0:17:25 > 0:17:29- My mum had to go out and work.- And with Joe starting his acting career,

0:17:29 > 0:17:32he would give money that he earned to the family.

0:17:32 > 0:17:34I'd do like The Bill, or EastEnders,

0:17:34 > 0:17:38and you'd get £500, £600 for it. I was never asked to do it.

0:17:38 > 0:17:41I just always didn't feel right when I earned money

0:17:41 > 0:17:43and everyone else would be struggling.

0:17:43 > 0:17:45I don't need money at that age, so I'd help out.

0:17:45 > 0:17:50When something like that happens, you feel so much resentment.

0:17:50 > 0:17:52Thinking why did it happen to us?

0:17:52 > 0:17:56But I'm really proud of myself as a 12-year-old, coping with it.

0:17:56 > 0:18:00And having to grow up, so I think with the help of my mum

0:18:00 > 0:18:04and everyone, I've grown up quite level-headed.

0:18:05 > 0:18:08Still to come, we ask the all-important question,

0:18:08 > 0:18:11what would our celebs do if they were 12 again?

0:18:11 > 0:18:14It's funny that I can laugh back now at my really awkward,

0:18:14 > 0:18:17self-conscious 12-year-old self.

0:18:17 > 0:18:20In some ways, I felt I grew up a bit quick.

0:18:20 > 0:18:22In other ways, I couldn't grow up quick enough.

0:18:22 > 0:18:26Now I'm older and wiser, I have so many more things

0:18:26 > 0:18:27I could have thought of doing as a kid.

0:18:27 > 0:18:30First, we caught up with Richard Wisker who told us

0:18:30 > 0:18:33what life was like at 12 in two minutes.

0:18:33 > 0:18:36He's one of the UK's top up-and-coming actors

0:18:36 > 0:18:40who loves giving you the top downloads on a Friday evening.

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0:18:42 > 0:18:45But when he was 12, he knew exactly what he wanted to be.

0:18:45 > 0:18:50I used to love just watching movies. I would sit and watch movies all day.

0:18:50 > 0:18:52I thought, I'd love to do that.

0:18:52 > 0:18:56I was doing The Bill, I think, around 12.

0:18:56 > 0:19:00It was really good fun, because I'd never picked up a script in my life.

0:19:00 > 0:19:01Hello!

0:19:01 > 0:19:05We're from the local orphanage, and if we don't raise enough money,

0:19:05 > 0:19:07they'll close us down and we'll be homeless.

0:19:07 > 0:19:11So please, buy some pizza. It's only £1.

0:19:11 > 0:19:14I always change my hair style. I used to have comb-overs

0:19:14 > 0:19:15and try all different ones.

0:19:15 > 0:19:18I used to do it in the bath, really weirdly,

0:19:18 > 0:19:20try out new hairstyles and what could I have,

0:19:20 > 0:19:22and what will look good.

0:19:22 > 0:19:25At one point, I had highlights in my hair.

0:19:25 > 0:19:28I done it cos my older brother did it.

0:19:28 > 0:19:31I thought, oh, older brother, he's cool, and I want to be like him,

0:19:31 > 0:19:34cos obviously, he's a role model, you look up to him.

0:19:34 > 0:19:36I thought, yeah, why not?

0:19:36 > 0:19:39With career and style in place, was there any time for girls?

0:19:39 > 0:19:41There were some girlfriends.

0:19:41 > 0:19:44I wouldn't say a crush, but you wouldn't go up to a girl at 12,

0:19:44 > 0:19:46cos obviously, everyone's shy at 12.

0:19:46 > 0:19:48There was one girl I used to dance with

0:19:48 > 0:19:52and then had a first kiss, which was pretty cool.

0:19:52 > 0:19:55But all my friends were like, oh, go on, we'll have a bet,

0:19:55 > 0:19:59who can get the first kiss. And none of my friends had a first kiss,

0:19:59 > 0:20:01but I did on the night, so, I won.

0:20:01 > 0:20:04So getting a snog at the school disco is good,

0:20:04 > 0:20:06but what was the best thing about being 12?

0:20:06 > 0:20:11The best thing about being 12? You can get away with being cheeky.

0:20:11 > 0:20:13Mostly getting spoilt as well.

0:20:13 > 0:20:16If you wanted toys or clothes, you can get it.

0:20:16 > 0:20:20When you get older, you have to get it yourself. Which is not cool.

0:20:22 > 0:20:26That was our two minutes with Richard Wisker.

0:20:26 > 0:20:28Now let's get back to our three celebs

0:20:28 > 0:20:31and find out what they were watching on telly when they were 12.

0:20:31 > 0:20:34There were nowhere near as many programmes or channels around

0:20:34 > 0:20:38when I was 12, but the programmes I remember - Crackerjack...

0:20:38 > 0:20:40Basil Brush. He was always there.

0:20:40 > 0:20:44- You can sing?- I've got a very powerful voice.- You have?

0:20:44 > 0:20:48- A powerful voice?- Yes.- What range? - Oh, about 300 yards! Haha!

0:20:48 > 0:20:52Believe it or not, Basil has been on TV for over 40 years!

0:20:52 > 0:20:56He appeared on several TV shows in the '60s

0:20:56 > 0:21:00before getting his own show in 1970.

0:21:04 > 0:21:07- His catchphrase...- Boom-boom!

0:21:07 > 0:21:11Cheers, Ted! ..is known by practically everyone in the country.

0:21:11 > 0:21:13And of course, it's still heard today.

0:21:15 > 0:21:16Boom-boom!

0:21:16 > 0:21:19What I loved about Basil Brush was he called everybody "Mister".

0:21:19 > 0:21:24- Oh, hello, Mr Derek. And there was Mr Derek, Mr Roy.- So, Mr Basil.

0:21:24 > 0:21:28- Yes, Mr Derek.- # Everybody sends their love to Basil Brush. #

0:21:28 > 0:21:31My family called each other "Mister".

0:21:31 > 0:21:35My sister would call me Mr Ted. And I would call her Mr Kate.

0:21:35 > 0:21:39What I loved about him was, he was a real old-fashioned type of comic,

0:21:39 > 0:21:42and I love an old-fashioned type of comic.

0:21:42 > 0:21:46The comic who isn't afraid to get out and tell you a terrible joke.

0:21:46 > 0:21:50What do you call a judge with no fingers? Justice Thumbs! Boom-boom!

0:21:50 > 0:21:54Maybe leave the jokes to Basil, Ted!

0:21:54 > 0:21:58Fast forward to 1994 and find out what Joe was watching on the box.

0:21:58 > 0:22:02I was strangely drawn to EastEnders. I was a bit of a fan.

0:22:07 > 0:22:11When I was in drama school, all my friends wanted to be in films

0:22:11 > 0:22:14and this and that. I just wanted to be in EastEnders.

0:22:14 > 0:22:16I knew people that was in the show too

0:22:16 > 0:22:19and I was so desperate to be involved in it.

0:22:19 > 0:22:22And Joe finally did get involved in his favourite soap

0:22:22 > 0:22:27when he became a regular character called Mickey Miller in 2003.

0:22:27 > 0:22:29Mickey! Mickey, mate! Wait!

0:22:31 > 0:22:32What?

0:22:32 > 0:22:34It's really strange, EastEnders.

0:22:34 > 0:22:37You wouldn't think young kids would watch it

0:22:37 > 0:22:39from the age of 12 and ten and stuff, but they do.

0:22:39 > 0:22:44There's something in EastEnders that is adaptable

0:22:44 > 0:22:48and liked by ages across the board.

0:22:48 > 0:22:50It's quite strange to think of all the times

0:22:50 > 0:22:54I talked about it and I watched it with my family,

0:22:54 > 0:22:58and then to think four, five years down the line, I was there as well.

0:22:58 > 0:23:01If only I'd known.

0:23:01 > 0:23:04While Joe was living out his dreams,

0:23:04 > 0:23:07in 2002, Anjli was watching the start of a brand-new channel.

0:23:07 > 0:23:13You could only ever get kid's TV for two hours on BBC One or ITV.

0:23:13 > 0:23:15And then that was it.

0:23:15 > 0:23:18Then it was just watching videos or DVDs or whatever.

0:23:18 > 0:23:22- But then came the CBBC Channel. - Our top stories this afternoon.

0:23:22 > 0:23:25On air, a new TV channel just for you.

0:23:25 > 0:23:30CBBC got a complete new makeover when the channel launched

0:23:30 > 0:23:33and featured presenters such as Radio One's Fearne Cotton,

0:23:33 > 0:23:37BBC Sport's Jake Humphrey and of course, Dick and Dom.

0:23:37 > 0:23:41This is the all-new CBBC, like you've never seen it before!

0:23:41 > 0:23:45You could watch it all day, even when summer holidays weren't on.

0:23:45 > 0:23:47If you were poorly, you could watch it all day.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50One of my favourite shows was Stitch Up.

0:23:57 > 0:24:00It was like a prank... a bit like Prank Patrol now,

0:24:00 > 0:24:02but you couldn't set your mates up.

0:24:02 > 0:24:04I really wanted to be on it.

0:24:06 > 0:24:10HE COUGHS

0:24:13 > 0:24:15# Night fever, night Fever

0:24:15 > 0:24:18# We know how to do it. #

0:24:18 > 0:24:22There were characters, one of them was remote controlled kid.

0:24:22 > 0:24:25It was great. And he'd go into a sandwich shop

0:24:25 > 0:24:28and ask for like an elaborately made sandwich.

0:24:28 > 0:24:33As soon as they put it on, he'd be like, "it's wrong". So they'd start again.

0:24:38 > 0:24:42The remote controlled kid went into loads of different types of shops

0:24:42 > 0:24:47and had to say exactly what the older Stitch Up presenter told him.

0:24:47 > 0:24:53OK, Simon, go into the dental surgery. Can you help me?

0:24:53 > 0:24:57Can you help me? My mum told me something a few minutes ago.

0:24:57 > 0:24:59- That the Tooth Fairy isn't real. - It is real.

0:24:59 > 0:25:01I wanted to be a prankster.

0:25:01 > 0:25:03When me and Danny used to do Sarah Jane Adventures,

0:25:03 > 0:25:06we always used to try and prank people.

0:25:06 > 0:25:08I like practical jokes. I love things like that.

0:25:08 > 0:25:11But they never work when you do them yourself.

0:25:11 > 0:25:13You need a team of people behind you.

0:25:13 > 0:25:17All you can do is like a Whoopee Cushion, which is a bit rubbish.

0:25:17 > 0:25:21So, that's what they remember watching on TV.

0:25:21 > 0:25:24But what do they remember most about being 12?

0:25:24 > 0:25:27You sometimes think you're neither one thing nor the other.

0:25:27 > 0:25:29You're not a child, not a baby.

0:25:29 > 0:25:33Not even a teenager. You're sort of in-between.

0:25:33 > 0:25:35You're just starting to become a man.

0:25:35 > 0:25:39You hit puberty and muscles start to grow and hair starts growing.

0:25:39 > 0:25:43You kind of have that crossover from being a boy to a teenager

0:25:43 > 0:25:46and from being a kid to an adult.

0:25:46 > 0:25:49It's a massive, massive time in any boy's life,

0:25:49 > 0:25:52and a young girls life, 12 is a pinnacle age.

0:25:52 > 0:25:55I felt like somebody had opened my eyes a bit

0:25:55 > 0:25:57and it was no longer time to be a kid

0:25:57 > 0:26:01and get away with slight cheeky things any more.

0:26:01 > 0:26:04Suddenly you're more responsible for your own actions

0:26:04 > 0:26:06and more aware of what's going on around you.

0:26:06 > 0:26:11Just enjoy it. Enjoy being young. Enjoy having no responsibilities.

0:26:11 > 0:26:15Your friends, you're never going to have friends like you did

0:26:15 > 0:26:17when you were 12 years old.

0:26:17 > 0:26:21Everything means so much more to you. Everything is so much more important.

0:26:21 > 0:26:24It's funny that I can laugh back now at my really awkward,

0:26:24 > 0:26:27self-conscious 12-year-old self.

0:26:27 > 0:26:31And realise how scared I was of suddenly becoming a woman.

0:26:31 > 0:26:34A lot of special times happen when you're 12.

0:26:34 > 0:26:38And a lot of special things go on that you don't realise

0:26:38 > 0:26:40until you get older.

0:26:40 > 0:26:43By that time, you know, the moment's gone.

0:26:43 > 0:26:46In some ways, I felt I grew up a bit quick.

0:26:46 > 0:26:49And in other ways, I felt I couldn't grow up quick enough.

0:26:49 > 0:26:53It's the first time you ever have your heart broken. It's the first time

0:26:53 > 0:26:56you're going to kind of fall out with your mate in such a big way,

0:26:56 > 0:27:00all those changes, because once they've happened, they've happened.

0:27:00 > 0:27:03But that kind of transitional phase, I really miss.

0:27:05 > 0:27:08Now I'm older and wiser, I've got so many more things

0:27:08 > 0:27:10that I could have thought of doing when I was a kid.

0:27:10 > 0:27:14I know so much more about how to get on people's nerves.

0:27:14 > 0:27:17Oh, I'd have been a force to deal with, I'm telling you!

0:27:17 > 0:27:19It would've been brilliant!

0:27:19 > 0:27:22Thankfully, Joe can never be 12 again.

0:27:22 > 0:27:24Right, so what have we learnt?

0:27:25 > 0:27:29If you need some new dance moves, Anjli is the girl to go and see.

0:27:29 > 0:27:30# Bugui an de buididipi... #

0:27:30 > 0:27:36- If you ever need a bad gag, just ask Ted.- Justice Thumbs! Boom-boom!

0:27:36 > 0:27:39And if you're ever struck down with "knight" fever,

0:27:39 > 0:27:41get yourself to the chemist.

0:27:41 > 0:27:42HE COUGHS

0:27:42 > 0:27:46# Night fever, night fever... #

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