0:00:02 > 0:00:04Three celebs become 12 again.
0:00:04 > 0:00:07I liked Posh because I support Man U.
0:00:07 > 0:00:09I never, ever got myself into trouble.
0:00:09 > 0:00:11- Kylie Minogue.- I did not!
0:00:11 > 0:00:14- Sinitta.- I didn't!- Sonia.- No!
0:00:14 > 0:00:18And we find out what life was like for TV presenter Alex Jones.
0:00:18 > 0:00:21It was like the highlight of the week.
0:00:21 > 0:00:23It was the highlight of life.
0:00:23 > 0:00:25- Want to know what they're all talking about?- Yeah!- He does.
0:00:25 > 0:00:29Have you ever wondered what it would have been like
0:00:29 > 0:00:32to be best mates with your favourite celebs when they were your age?
0:00:32 > 0:00:34What did they get up to?
0:00:34 > 0:00:36What were their favourite songs?
0:00:36 > 0:00:38And what TV shows did they watch?
0:00:38 > 0:00:41Because despite the glamorous lifestyles they now lead,
0:00:41 > 0:00:45once they were a kid with a dream just like you.
0:00:45 > 0:00:48This show lets you look back in time
0:00:48 > 0:00:52with your favourite celebs as they become 12 again.
0:00:57 > 0:01:01They're the legendary comedy duo who know how to make a scene.
0:01:01 > 0:01:04- You confess that you did it! - It was me!
0:01:04 > 0:01:06BOTH: Ahhh!
0:01:06 > 0:01:07But back in the late '80s,
0:01:07 > 0:01:09Dick and Dom were...
0:01:09 > 0:01:11well, pretty much the same.
0:01:11 > 0:01:12When I was 12, I was wrong.
0:01:12 > 0:01:15I wore the wrong clothes, I had the wrong hairstyle. I just looked wrong.
0:01:15 > 0:01:18BOTH: If you're happy and you know it, do this...
0:01:18 > 0:01:20'I was naughty.'
0:01:20 > 0:01:24That's the word that can sum up, really, rather than a sentence.
0:01:24 > 0:01:27I was very, very naughty.
0:01:27 > 0:01:28# Number one
0:01:28 > 0:01:31# You lift me off the ground... #
0:01:31 > 0:01:35He's the number one rapper who has loads of celeb mates.
0:01:35 > 0:01:37And back in 1998, Tinchy Stryder was
0:01:37 > 0:01:39just getting in with the in crowd.
0:01:39 > 0:01:42In school, you've always got different groups,
0:01:42 > 0:01:45but I think me personally,
0:01:45 > 0:01:47socially I fitted in with the cool kids.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50Football and the cool set. Yeah.
0:01:51 > 0:01:53She's the business dragon
0:01:53 > 0:01:55who can crush dreams with just two words.
0:01:55 > 0:01:57I'm out.
0:01:57 > 0:01:58But back in 1971, Deborah Meaden
0:01:58 > 0:02:00knew exactly what she wanted.
0:02:00 > 0:02:03'I think I was a pretty independent child.'
0:02:03 > 0:02:06If you couldn't convince me to do something,
0:02:06 > 0:02:08then absolutely no way was I going to do it.
0:02:08 > 0:02:11It may all be high-flying business deals
0:02:11 > 0:02:14and showbiz parties today, but it wasn't always that way.
0:02:14 > 0:02:17So let's see what they were like before they were famous
0:02:17 > 0:02:20and still wearing their school uniform.
0:02:20 > 0:02:23When I was 12 in school, I've always been small for my age anyway,
0:02:23 > 0:02:26so I always somehow stood out. "That's that little one."
0:02:26 > 0:02:29I had this big quiff for a hairstyle, and I also wore the wrong clothes.
0:02:29 > 0:02:33I was never cool. Always clothes that other people wouldn't wear.
0:02:33 > 0:02:35I was quite slight.
0:02:35 > 0:02:37Pale blonde. I think I had dark rings under my eyes,
0:02:37 > 0:02:41but that might just be my sister telling me I had them.
0:02:41 > 0:02:43- What did your hair look like then? - It was terrible.
0:02:43 > 0:02:47- It was like a bird's nest had landed on my head.- It was curly, wasn't it?
0:02:47 > 0:02:49- Big, curly shock of hair.- Yeah.
0:02:49 > 0:02:50I used to really love trainers.
0:02:50 > 0:02:51When I used to go to school,
0:02:51 > 0:02:54I remember you used to save up your school dinner money.
0:02:54 > 0:02:57I used to get maybe £1.50 to go to school with every day,
0:02:57 > 0:02:58and then that saved up.
0:02:58 > 0:03:01So maybe in, like, a month, you can buy some trainers.
0:03:01 > 0:03:06I probably spent most of my 12-year-old year looking atrocious.
0:03:06 > 0:03:10Trying to look like my older sister, trying to be fashionable,
0:03:10 > 0:03:13but actually kind of not getting it.
0:03:13 > 0:03:16I think the worst thing about being 12 was acne. Did you have acne?
0:03:16 > 0:03:17I had it all over my forehead.
0:03:17 > 0:03:20You could do dot-to-dot with it. It was everywhere.
0:03:20 > 0:03:22I went through so many different phases.
0:03:22 > 0:03:24One day I might look like this, the next day like that.
0:03:24 > 0:03:27I always think, cos I had older brothers who...
0:03:27 > 0:03:28to me they were cool,
0:03:28 > 0:03:31so they might be like, "I've got this for you,"
0:03:31 > 0:03:33and then I felt like, yeah, I was cool.
0:03:33 > 0:03:36So despite the spots, trying to be fashionable,
0:03:36 > 0:03:38and falling in love with...trainers,
0:03:38 > 0:03:40what else did our celebs get up to when they were 12?
0:03:40 > 0:03:42'I was a businessman when I was 12.'
0:03:42 > 0:03:45I used to have a paper round with my mate on Monday to Friday,
0:03:45 > 0:03:47and one on a Sunday morning as well.
0:03:47 > 0:03:49- Just paper round mad, I was. - What happened? Eh?
0:03:49 > 0:03:52- To the business sense. What happened to you?- It's all up there, mate.
0:03:54 > 0:03:55I was an absolutely angelic child.
0:03:55 > 0:03:58I did absolutely nothing wrong
0:03:58 > 0:04:01and I never, ever got myself into trouble.
0:04:01 > 0:04:03I probably need to tell the truth.
0:04:03 > 0:04:05I think, because I was quite independent,
0:04:05 > 0:04:08I'd just go off and do stuff and then find out later
0:04:08 > 0:04:09I wasn't supposed to have done it.
0:04:10 > 0:04:13I was the joker. I hung around with the cool bunch,
0:04:13 > 0:04:16but I was always the slightly nerdy one
0:04:16 > 0:04:18that tagged along to the cool bunch.
0:04:18 > 0:04:19Rubbish at sport as well,
0:04:19 > 0:04:22and all my three older brothers were really good at school,
0:04:22 > 0:04:25so I kind of thought, "What do I do? What's my thing at school?"
0:04:25 > 0:04:28And I discovered I could make people laugh.
0:04:29 > 0:04:32I wanted to be a footballer. That was my main thing.
0:04:32 > 0:04:33In a way it helped with my music,
0:04:33 > 0:04:35because I wasn't paying full attention.
0:04:35 > 0:04:37I was doing it because I enjoyed it.
0:04:37 > 0:04:39It was fun, it was a hobby, but football was my main focus,
0:04:39 > 0:04:42so you have to just train. I used to love playing football.
0:04:42 > 0:04:45So whilst Tinchy focused on his football,
0:04:45 > 0:04:48Dom was finding school life not so easy.
0:04:48 > 0:04:51'At school, 12 was a very difficult age,'
0:04:51 > 0:04:55because I hadn't been diagnosed as dyslexic at that stage.
0:04:55 > 0:04:58I remember other kids used to call me thick,
0:04:58 > 0:05:00and that really hurt. It really, really hurt.
0:05:00 > 0:05:04Dyslexia is basically a learning disability.
0:05:04 > 0:05:06My main one was reading, as you know.
0:05:06 > 0:05:07And my spelling's awful.
0:05:07 > 0:05:09- How many times do I ask you how to spell words?- True.
0:05:09 > 0:05:12Very simple ones, like "there" and "their", and something like "else".
0:05:12 > 0:05:15I'd just being going round in my head, "How do I spell it?"
0:05:17 > 0:05:19Fast forward to 1998,
0:05:19 > 0:05:22where Tinchy Stryder had just started making a name for himself.
0:05:22 > 0:05:23Quite literally.
0:05:23 > 0:05:26'My close friends call me Kwasi. That's my birth name,'
0:05:26 > 0:05:28and people that are close to me still call me that.
0:05:28 > 0:05:31When I was going into secondary school, I thought,
0:05:31 > 0:05:33"Yeah, we want to MC, but we need names.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35"Everyone's got a name." But my one was sort of easy,
0:05:35 > 0:05:38cos I was always the smallest out of the group, so Tinch, Tinchy,
0:05:38 > 0:05:41that was like a nickname that came with it.
0:05:41 > 0:05:45And then "Stryder" was from a computer game which I used to know.
0:05:45 > 0:05:48It just sounded like Tinchy, but big strides. Tinchy Stryder.
0:05:48 > 0:05:49Yeah, it sounded cool.
0:05:50 > 0:05:54Long before Tinchy's name was in place, back in 1971,
0:05:54 > 0:05:56Deborah was helping to run the family business.
0:05:56 > 0:05:59'Even as a small child, I was helping out.'
0:05:59 > 0:06:02Every holiday I would be working.
0:06:02 > 0:06:05Deborah's mum and dad owned fairground rides
0:06:05 > 0:06:06at Longleat Safari Park,
0:06:06 > 0:06:08and it's where Deborah began to make her fortune.
0:06:08 > 0:06:10By the time I was 12, I was getting to the age
0:06:10 > 0:06:12where I could take on responsibility.
0:06:12 > 0:06:13To me it was great fun.
0:06:13 > 0:06:16It wasn't like, "Oh, I was working at the age of 12!"
0:06:16 > 0:06:18I loved it. It was fantastic.
0:06:18 > 0:06:20So Deborah might have been earning money,
0:06:20 > 0:06:22but Dick was spending it.
0:06:22 > 0:06:25'I used to save all my pocket money up.'
0:06:25 > 0:06:26£2.50 a week, actually,
0:06:26 > 0:06:29and the first ever biggest burger establishment in the world
0:06:29 > 0:06:32- beginning with "M-C"... - Right, yes.
0:06:32 > 0:06:34..opened in Sheffield. I remember it opening,
0:06:34 > 0:06:36and every week we used to go there,
0:06:36 > 0:06:39every Saturday, to buy these brand new little burgers.
0:06:39 > 0:06:41OK, let me put this into context for you.
0:06:41 > 0:06:44When Dick was 12, lots of cities across the UK
0:06:44 > 0:06:46didn't have the famous M restaurant,
0:06:46 > 0:06:48so when one opened in your town, it was big news.
0:06:48 > 0:06:51And it was massive news
0:06:51 > 0:06:54when the first one opened in Russia in 1990, because until then,
0:06:54 > 0:06:57people who lived there couldn't get a lot of Western products,
0:06:57 > 0:07:00so the first McDonalds in Moscow caused huge excitement.
0:07:00 > 0:07:02But there was one problem.
0:07:02 > 0:07:05Food isn't cheap. Half a day's roubles for a Big Mac alone.
0:07:05 > 0:07:07Despite it being hugely expensive for them,
0:07:07 > 0:07:10people queued for miles to try and get the food
0:07:10 > 0:07:12that they thought they would never taste.
0:07:12 > 0:07:13The opening of the restaurant
0:07:13 > 0:07:16was seen as the start of a historic change for Russia.
0:07:18 > 0:07:20I had a crush on a girl in my area.
0:07:20 > 0:07:23She was the girl who everyone liked, and I really liked her.
0:07:23 > 0:07:25We got along as friends, but then, I don't know,
0:07:25 > 0:07:27maybe I started liking her more.
0:07:27 > 0:07:30Yeah. And then I kind of got a kiss.
0:07:32 > 0:07:33Yeah.
0:07:34 > 0:07:35Back in Sheffield,
0:07:35 > 0:07:38Dick was about to start his showbiz career.
0:07:38 > 0:07:40I started on children's hospital radio
0:07:40 > 0:07:42at Sheffield Children's Hospital.
0:07:42 > 0:07:45When I was 12, I was the youngest presenter they'd ever had,
0:07:45 > 0:07:47and I was just obsessed with it.
0:07:47 > 0:07:49I'd even record all the jingles off Radio 1 onto a cassette tape.
0:07:49 > 0:07:51What was it?
0:07:51 > 0:07:54# Two million watts of music power
0:07:54 > 0:07:57# Radio 1 FM! #
0:07:58 > 0:08:00I was a questioning child. That's in my genes, and as a child,
0:08:00 > 0:08:05it must be very annoying to have a 12-year-old constantly say, "Why?"
0:08:05 > 0:08:07When you're asked to do something, "Why?"
0:08:07 > 0:08:09And I'd go to school, and we'd have these rules,
0:08:09 > 0:08:10and I'd think, "Why?"
0:08:10 > 0:08:14That's the question that's followed me through life. "Why?"
0:08:14 > 0:08:16And it's obviously done well for you, Deborah.
0:08:16 > 0:08:19But "why" don't we see what music
0:08:19 > 0:08:21our celebs listened to when they were kids?
0:08:21 > 0:08:22Good link, thanks.
0:08:24 > 0:08:25'I was given a cassette tape -
0:08:25 > 0:08:28New Order, Substance, the album was, from 1987.
0:08:28 > 0:08:30So I got it in 1988. And I put this cassette on,
0:08:30 > 0:08:32a double cassette, and I remember listening to it
0:08:32 > 0:08:34and thinking, "This is my kind of music."
0:08:34 > 0:08:36# How does it feel? #
0:08:36 > 0:08:39This is New Order's most successful song, Blue Monday.
0:08:39 > 0:08:40They rose to fame in the '80s
0:08:40 > 0:08:43with their unique style of electronic music,
0:08:43 > 0:08:45and have influenced loads of bands over the years,
0:08:45 > 0:08:47probably some you listen to today.
0:08:47 > 0:08:51But Dick's record collection wasn't as cool as he'd like to think.
0:08:51 > 0:08:54You did also used to have quite a big record collection
0:08:54 > 0:08:56of awful music as well, didn't you?
0:08:56 > 0:08:58- Like what, Mr Wood? - Well, it was...
0:08:58 > 0:09:02there were basically three guys called Stock, Aitken and Waterman,
0:09:02 > 0:09:06and they basically made lots of pop music. And...Jason Donovan,
0:09:06 > 0:09:08- Kylie Minogue. - I did not!- Sinitta...
0:09:08 > 0:09:10- I didn't!- Sonia.- No!
0:09:10 > 0:09:13# But you'll never stop me from loving you... #
0:09:13 > 0:09:16Stock, Aitken and Waterman
0:09:16 > 0:09:18were the three-headed Simon Cowell of the '80s.
0:09:18 > 0:09:20They wrote and produced hit after hit after hit.
0:09:20 > 0:09:24So much so, they were often called The Hit Factory.
0:09:24 > 0:09:26Welcome to The Hit Factory in London.
0:09:26 > 0:09:30And one of their biggest stars was Kylie Minogue, Dick's favorite.
0:09:30 > 0:09:32# You keep on asking me
0:09:32 > 0:09:34# Why can't we be together? #
0:09:34 > 0:09:37Have you got a favourite Kylie track, have you?
0:09:37 > 0:09:38You know, from when you were 12?
0:09:38 > 0:09:41Yeah. Got To Be Certain was quite good.
0:09:41 > 0:09:42# I've got to be
0:09:42 > 0:09:44# Got to be certain... #
0:09:44 > 0:09:47'It was a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine. Not any more, though. No.'
0:09:47 > 0:09:49- You're such a liar. - It's true!- He is a liar.
0:09:49 > 0:09:53He's trying to make himself better, cos he just likes all the pop.
0:09:53 > 0:09:55Just cos you were a rock fanatic!
0:09:55 > 0:09:56- IN HIGH VOICE:- Yeah!
0:09:56 > 0:10:00# This must be just like living in paradise... #
0:10:00 > 0:10:03So whilst Dick was trying to be cool listening to Kylie,
0:10:03 > 0:10:06Dom was listening to some rock.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09Because I used to be a drummer, I used to love rock music.
0:10:09 > 0:10:11That was absolutely brilliant.
0:10:11 > 0:10:14And I was influenced by my three older brothers.
0:10:14 > 0:10:19One particular tune was Crazy Nights by a band called Kiss.
0:10:19 > 0:10:21# These are crazy, crazy... #
0:10:21 > 0:10:25Kiss were a massive American rock band with a massive sound,
0:10:25 > 0:10:27and guess what? They rocked.
0:10:27 > 0:10:31With huge hair and sell-out shows, they were the kings of heavy music.
0:10:31 > 0:10:35But if you think this is heavy, feast your eyes on this.
0:10:35 > 0:10:37HEAVY GUITAR RIFF
0:10:37 > 0:10:40This, believe it or not, is the same band 10 years earlier.
0:10:40 > 0:10:45Their crazy dress sense and flashy face paint was legendary,
0:10:45 > 0:10:47and all of them made an effort with their characters.
0:10:47 > 0:10:49There was Starchild, who obviously went with the star.
0:10:49 > 0:10:53There was comic book fan The Demon.
0:10:53 > 0:10:54Some pretty cool characters.
0:10:54 > 0:10:56(And Catman.)
0:10:57 > 0:11:00It's not looking good. You've got that, I've got Kylie,
0:11:00 > 0:11:03- I Should Be So Lucky. - It's good. Don't knock it.
0:11:03 > 0:11:05It's...OK, I know what you mean.
0:11:05 > 0:11:07So let's leave Dick and Dom
0:11:07 > 0:11:08popping and rocking in the '80s,
0:11:08 > 0:11:09and found out what Deborah
0:11:09 > 0:11:11was listening to in the '70s.
0:11:11 > 0:11:13'At boarding school, the only programme
0:11:13 > 0:11:14'we were allowed to watch was Top Of The Pops.'
0:11:14 > 0:11:16We had a matron who would sit there
0:11:16 > 0:11:18and make sure we didn't see anything inappropriate.
0:11:18 > 0:11:21And I just remember when Rod Stewart came on.
0:11:21 > 0:11:22# Wake up, Maggie
0:11:22 > 0:11:27# I think I got something to say to you... #
0:11:27 > 0:11:29'I think it was Maggie May. I think it got to number one,
0:11:29 > 0:11:31'which was why it was on Top Of The Pops.
0:11:31 > 0:11:32He's a good-looking guy,
0:11:32 > 0:11:35and he was just a bit edgy, a bit different.
0:11:35 > 0:11:36You know, his hips moved a bit.
0:11:36 > 0:11:38And they really did move.
0:11:38 > 0:11:41But there was one feature Rod really became famous for -
0:11:41 > 0:11:42his hair.
0:11:42 > 0:11:46Rod and his hair have been going for over 45 years.
0:11:46 > 0:11:48Back in the '70s, he was massive,
0:11:48 > 0:11:50and having sold millions of albums worldwide, his hair -
0:11:50 > 0:11:52I mean, sorry, he -
0:11:52 > 0:11:54is still as big today as ever.
0:11:54 > 0:11:56The matron... I could just see her thinking,
0:11:56 > 0:11:58"I've got to switch it off."
0:11:58 > 0:12:01There's nothing like that to engage a bunch of 12-year-old girls.
0:12:01 > 0:12:03It was just, like, "Right.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06"I'm going to watch Rod Stewart and I'm going to love him."
0:12:07 > 0:12:10Right, let's fast forward to the late '90s
0:12:10 > 0:12:14and find out what Tinchy was listening to in London.
0:12:14 > 0:12:15The music I listened to -
0:12:15 > 0:12:17so many different ones, but garage.
0:12:17 > 0:12:18# Re-e-wind
0:12:18 > 0:12:21# When the crowd say bo, selecta... #
0:12:21 > 0:12:24'I remember when Craig David, Artful Dodger, had Rewind.
0:12:24 > 0:12:27That's one of them songs where you feel like,
0:12:27 > 0:12:28"Whoa. That's something we like."
0:12:28 > 0:12:31At first, for some reason, I didn't understand, I thought,
0:12:31 > 0:12:33"Why's everything going backwards?"
0:12:33 > 0:12:35And everyone was like, "The song's called Rewind."
0:12:35 > 0:12:36Rewinding.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38Good work, Sherlock(!)
0:12:38 > 0:12:40But as an aspiring rapper,
0:12:40 > 0:12:43Tinchy didn't restrict himself to one type of music.
0:12:43 > 0:12:47I liked different things. I liked Destiny's Child,
0:12:47 > 0:12:49TLC, Jay-Z. So many different things.
0:12:49 > 0:12:51# No matter how pretty she is... #
0:12:51 > 0:12:54But our Tinch didn't just like the cool acts.
0:12:54 > 0:12:57He didn't mind a bit of pop as well.
0:12:57 > 0:12:59I liked a bit of Spice Girls.
0:12:59 > 0:13:00- Told you!- My favourite Spice Girls song,
0:13:00 > 0:13:04I have to say, was I think, 2 Become 1.
0:13:04 > 0:13:08# I need some love like I've never needed love before...
0:13:08 > 0:13:09'I liked the video.'
0:13:09 > 0:13:11I liked how it felt fresh and exciting and new.
0:13:11 > 0:13:14# Set your spirit free... #
0:13:14 > 0:13:17'My favourite Spice Girl was probably Posh,
0:13:17 > 0:13:19because I support Man U
0:13:19 > 0:13:22and David Beckham, and it all made sense. It linked up.
0:13:22 > 0:13:24Everyone's got a favourite Spice Girl.
0:13:24 > 0:13:26Mine was Sporty, but don't tell anyone!
0:13:29 > 0:13:30BOTH: Oh, yes!
0:13:30 > 0:13:32We catch up with top presenter Alex Jones
0:13:32 > 0:13:34and find out what life was like when she was 12.
0:13:34 > 0:13:38There's nothing worse than having a crush on somebody at 12,
0:13:38 > 0:13:41when you are super-geek and they are super-cool.
0:13:41 > 0:13:43Deborah watches some funny talking animals...
0:13:43 > 0:13:46It was sharp. It was funny stuff coming out of those animals' mouths.
0:13:46 > 0:13:49..we find out what show Tinchy would stay up for...
0:13:49 > 0:13:51I love football, so I couldn't wait.
0:13:51 > 0:13:53..and Dick and Dom pursue their dreams.
0:13:53 > 0:13:54Watching that, we went,
0:13:54 > 0:13:57"That has got to be the best job in the world."
0:13:58 > 0:14:00But first, let's see what big news stories
0:14:00 > 0:14:03had an impact on our celebrities when they were 12.
0:14:03 > 0:14:04'When I was 12,'
0:14:04 > 0:14:06there were a few big stories. I remember the eclipse.
0:14:06 > 0:14:10The last total solar eclipse this century
0:14:10 > 0:14:13was experienced by millions in Britain and around the world.
0:14:13 > 0:14:16In August 1999, the nation held their breath in excitement
0:14:16 > 0:14:20to see a total eclipse of the sun, as the sun, moon and earth
0:14:20 > 0:14:23lined up with each other for the first time in 72 years.
0:14:23 > 0:14:26At first I was like, "Whoa. Is this really going to happen?
0:14:26 > 0:14:29"It'll be dark, it'll black out. Is the world ending?" It was weird.
0:14:29 > 0:14:31When you're young, whatever you hear, you believe.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34'And when it started getting closer, you started having a bit of fear,
0:14:34 > 0:14:37'thinking, "This ain't a joke, it's actually happening."'
0:14:38 > 0:14:40Sunlight faded, temperatures dropped,
0:14:40 > 0:14:44and the whole southwest of England plunged into darkness.
0:14:44 > 0:14:47CROWD CHEER
0:14:47 > 0:14:49'This is it. It's gone totally dark.
0:14:49 > 0:14:51'I've never seen anything like this, ever.'
0:14:51 > 0:14:54Everyone watching waited for the moon to pass the earth
0:14:54 > 0:14:56and for the sunlight to reappear.
0:14:56 > 0:14:58But the eclipse wasn't fun for everyone,
0:14:58 > 0:15:01as some people were scared about what would happen during it.
0:15:01 > 0:15:03When it happened, I did start wondering,
0:15:03 > 0:15:05"What if it stays like this?"
0:15:05 > 0:15:08There was a bit of fear in the air, yeah.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11It was darker than I expected.
0:15:11 > 0:15:15Scary. Dead scary. Really, really, really scary.
0:15:15 > 0:15:17People were scared, but not forever.
0:15:17 > 0:15:19More like a minute, to be honest.
0:15:19 > 0:15:21'It's starting to get a bit light again.'
0:15:21 > 0:15:24We've had the darkest time of it, but it's been incredible.
0:15:24 > 0:15:29Around 350 million people in Europe and Asia witnessed the eclipse,
0:15:29 > 0:15:30which was lucky for them,
0:15:30 > 0:15:34as the next time this happens over the UK will be in 2090.
0:15:34 > 0:15:36So, not so long to wait, then(!)
0:15:38 > 0:15:41Whilst Tinchy was being left in the dark,
0:15:41 > 0:15:43what was a big story for Deborah when she was 12?
0:15:43 > 0:15:45One thing I was really aware of
0:15:45 > 0:15:47was either the first or the second year -
0:15:47 > 0:15:50I think it might have been the second year - of Glastonbury.
0:15:51 > 0:15:55The early '70s saw a new craze in the UK.
0:15:55 > 0:15:57No, not bearded man playing tambourines,
0:15:57 > 0:15:59although that was very popular back then.
0:15:59 > 0:16:02It was this - music festivals in fields.
0:16:02 > 0:16:06They quickly became very popular with those who loved music,
0:16:06 > 0:16:10as they could see all their favourite bands in one place
0:16:10 > 0:16:13over a weekend, but they weren't so popular with the locals.
0:16:13 > 0:16:15- I think it's dreadful. - Can you tell me why?
0:16:15 > 0:16:20Well, sanitation, for one thing, and there's just not enough room for it.
0:16:20 > 0:16:23And Glastonbury was no different.
0:16:23 > 0:16:27In those days, it was a farmer who decided to put on an event in his field
0:16:27 > 0:16:31and I've got to tell you, locally, it was a nightmare.
0:16:31 > 0:16:32Nobody wanted Glastonbury.
0:16:32 > 0:16:37The Glastonbury Festival was started in 1970
0:16:37 > 0:16:39by a local farmer called Michael Eavis.
0:16:39 > 0:16:42Thousands of people arrived for the event on motorbikes, in cars
0:16:42 > 0:16:46and with caravans, blocking roads and causing a lot of disruption.
0:16:46 > 0:16:50It was not welcomed with open arms, and it scared people.
0:16:50 > 0:16:52They had no idea what was going to happen
0:16:52 > 0:16:54and people, they don't like the unknown.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57Now I smile a bit, because I think,
0:16:57 > 0:16:59if it wasn't for the tenacity of one man,
0:16:59 > 0:17:02because we all sit here now saying how fantastic it is.
0:17:02 > 0:17:05Boy, did he get a lot of opposition when he first started.
0:17:05 > 0:17:08Today, Glastonbury is one of the biggest festivals in the world
0:17:08 > 0:17:12with over 100,000 people enjoying the event
0:17:12 > 0:17:15with some of the biggest pop stars in the world.
0:17:15 > 0:17:20Back in 1971, Deborah didn't want to miss out on the party either,
0:17:20 > 0:17:22but her mum and dad had other plans.
0:17:22 > 0:17:26My parents were very emphatic, I was not going to Glastonbury.
0:17:26 > 0:17:29In fact, my sister, who was a little bit older, she wasn't to go either,
0:17:29 > 0:17:32and she went, and I was really, really envious.
0:17:32 > 0:17:36I don't really regret much in life but that might be one thing I regret,
0:17:36 > 0:17:37I still wish I'd done it.
0:17:37 > 0:17:41In 1989, when Dick was 12,
0:17:41 > 0:17:44a football disaster shocked the country.
0:17:44 > 0:17:48When I was 12, a big news story was the Hillsborough disaster.
0:17:48 > 0:17:50The government announced a full investigation
0:17:50 > 0:17:53into Britain's worst ever sports disaster.
0:17:53 > 0:17:57In 1989, 96 people lost their lives
0:17:57 > 0:18:00in one of football's most tragic disasters.
0:18:00 > 0:18:03Liverpool and Nottingham Forest fans were in Sheffield
0:18:03 > 0:18:06at a stadium called Hillsborough, watching their teams play.
0:18:06 > 0:18:08Fences surrounded the pitch
0:18:08 > 0:18:12and when too many fans entered the ground, people were crushed.
0:18:12 > 0:18:15I remember it personally, because it was a Saturday afternoon
0:18:15 > 0:18:17and my mum got rushed away for work,
0:18:17 > 0:18:21she worked at the Royal Hallamshire Hospital in Sheffield, in A&E.
0:18:21 > 0:18:24And a short time ago, the Prince and Princess arrived
0:18:24 > 0:18:28at the Royal Hallamshire Hospital to meet some of the injured fans.
0:18:28 > 0:18:31I said to my dad, "Where's Mum? Why did she go to work for the weekend?"
0:18:31 > 0:18:34Because she didn't come back until Sunday afternoon
0:18:34 > 0:18:37as she'd been signing in all the casualties from Hillsborough.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40It was unbelievable, the amount of people that had been crushed
0:18:40 > 0:18:44and I can really remember the news footage from Newsround,
0:18:44 > 0:18:48seeing some of the other supporters ripping off those advertising boards
0:18:48 > 0:18:50and then using them as makeshift stretchers.
0:18:50 > 0:18:54The tragedy had a huge impact on safety at football grounds.
0:18:54 > 0:18:56Premiership football stadiums removed their fences
0:18:56 > 0:18:58and put in seating to stop it happening again.
0:18:58 > 0:19:02After that day, grounds throughout the country changed their seating,
0:19:02 > 0:19:06so now it's a lot more spacious in a football ground than it was then.
0:19:06 > 0:19:09On the anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster,
0:19:09 > 0:19:12the fans and players from both teams pay tribute
0:19:12 > 0:19:15to the memory of those who lost their lives on that day.
0:19:17 > 0:19:20Still to come, we asked the all-important question,
0:19:20 > 0:19:23what would our celebs do if they were 12 again?
0:19:23 > 0:19:28I think the most important thing is to find what it is you're about.
0:19:28 > 0:19:30When you go to secondary school,
0:19:30 > 0:19:32it feels like, like you're a big boy now.
0:19:32 > 0:19:35There's a lot of changes, your hormones are changing,
0:19:35 > 0:19:38- your mind is changing.- Your body's changing.- And your body, yeah.
0:19:38 > 0:19:41Before that, we've got two minutes with Alex Jones
0:19:41 > 0:19:44to find out what she was like at 12.
0:19:44 > 0:19:45Hello! Help!
0:19:45 > 0:19:48She's the star of the "One Show" you should never miss.
0:19:48 > 0:19:50BOTH: Oh, yes!
0:19:50 > 0:19:54But strictly speaking, what was Alex Jones like when she was 12?
0:19:56 > 0:19:59The only word to describe me when I was 12 was "geek".
0:19:59 > 0:20:03Very, very small, a face full of freckles,
0:20:03 > 0:20:04I just looked horrendous.
0:20:04 > 0:20:09Aww! But did Alex ever have a crush when she was a kid?
0:20:09 > 0:20:12Stephen Davis was a year older than me in school,
0:20:12 > 0:20:15the most popular boy in his year,
0:20:15 > 0:20:18and so far out of my reach.
0:20:18 > 0:20:22There's nothing worse than having a crush on somebody at 12
0:20:22 > 0:20:25when you are supergeek and they are supercool.
0:20:25 > 0:20:28I bet he's super kicking himself now,
0:20:28 > 0:20:32and talking of boys, there was one boy band Alex loved.
0:20:32 > 0:20:36My favourite band in the world were New Kids On The Block.
0:20:36 > 0:20:37# The first time was a great time
0:20:37 > 0:20:39# Second time was a blast... #
0:20:39 > 0:20:42We used to have New Kids On The Block nights
0:20:42 > 0:20:48so every Thursday, we would get together in somebody's house
0:20:48 > 0:20:54and watch all their videos back-to-back while eating doughnuts.
0:20:54 > 0:20:58It was the highlight of the week, the highlight of life at the time.
0:20:58 > 0:21:00Doing dance moves and eating doughnuts
0:21:00 > 0:21:02may have been the highlight of life,
0:21:02 > 0:21:06but what telly influenced our aspiring TV presenter?
0:21:06 > 0:21:09The show I actually really loved was Blue Peter.
0:21:09 > 0:21:11MUSIC: "Blue Peter" theme
0:21:11 > 0:21:16- My favourite presenters were Caron Keating and Yvette Fielding.- Yeah!
0:21:16 > 0:21:17Good morning!
0:21:17 > 0:21:20They made me want to be a children's presenter
0:21:20 > 0:21:24- and to this day, I'm a little bit jealous of Helen Skelton.- Hello!
0:21:24 > 0:21:26If I was 12 again,
0:21:26 > 0:21:29I wouldn't change much, I'd still do mostly the same thing
0:21:29 > 0:21:31but just try and have a bit more belief in me
0:21:31 > 0:21:34and not give myself such a massively hard time.
0:21:34 > 0:21:37Have a lovely weekend! Byee!
0:21:37 > 0:21:39And it's all worked out in the end.
0:21:40 > 0:21:43Right, let's get back to business
0:21:43 > 0:21:45and find out what Dick and Dom, Tinchy and Deborah
0:21:45 > 0:21:47were watching when they were 12.
0:21:50 > 0:21:52I was probably the kind of kid you wouldn't want to talk to
0:21:52 > 0:21:54cos I was a TV geek at that point,
0:21:54 > 0:21:57meaning I was obsessed with children's television,
0:21:57 > 0:22:00- because at 12 years old, I knew what I wanted to do.- I was the same.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03We used to watch childrens' TV and CBBC, so you know watching that
0:22:03 > 0:22:06I went, "That has got to be the best job in the world."
0:22:06 > 0:22:09I remember me and my brother were so obsessed with childrens' TV
0:22:09 > 0:22:12we'd applied to go on lots of different shows
0:22:12 > 0:22:15so I was in the audience once of Going Live!
0:22:18 > 0:22:20It had a great theme tune as well.
0:22:20 > 0:22:22Here we go.
0:22:22 > 0:22:24DICK SINGS THEME TUNE
0:22:24 > 0:22:27# Going...Going...Going Live! #
0:22:27 > 0:22:32But it wasn't just the BBC that Dick was watching on a Saturday morning.
0:22:32 > 0:22:35There was also a programme on ITV, on the other channel,
0:22:35 > 0:22:37the other side, called the Wide Awake Club.
0:22:37 > 0:22:39# We're wide awake! #
0:22:39 > 0:22:42- HE MAKES A SIREN SOUND - This isn't annoying.
0:22:42 > 0:22:46The Wide Awake Club was ITV's big Saturday morning show.
0:22:46 > 0:22:48And the masked team wins again.
0:22:48 > 0:22:51I was jealous cos my brother went on the Wide Awake Club.
0:22:51 > 0:22:53He got a Whack Pack, a little lunch box you got.
0:22:53 > 0:22:55And he did the Singing In The Shower bit.
0:22:55 > 0:22:58Like a lot of kids' shows, it launches many careers,
0:22:58 > 0:23:01but this one launched Hollywood legend Mike Myers.
0:23:03 > 0:23:05Hi, I'm Mike.
0:23:05 > 0:23:07The voice of Shrek made his first TV appearance on the show.
0:23:08 > 0:23:12But for Timmy Mallet, it made him one of the most popular kids'
0:23:12 > 0:23:13TV presenters of all time.
0:23:15 > 0:23:17Timmy Mallet, he came onto the Bungalow
0:23:17 > 0:23:21and had then become obsessed with our show.
0:23:21 > 0:23:22He gave me my own mallet.
0:23:24 > 0:23:27- Pinky punky.- Thanks, Timmy. - IN CHILD'S VOICE: Mr Mallet.
0:23:27 > 0:23:31Saturday wasn't just Dick and Dom's best day for TV,
0:23:31 > 0:23:33it was also Tinchy's favourite.
0:23:33 > 0:23:38Saturday mornings, you feel like when you wake up, you know without having
0:23:38 > 0:23:40to go through any channels, you know, I'm watching Live And Kicking.
0:23:41 > 0:23:46Live And kicking was the big BBC saturday morning kids' show of the '90s.
0:23:47 > 0:23:52And when Tinchy was watching, it was at the height of its fame.
0:23:52 > 0:23:52Everybody, out!
0:23:55 > 0:23:56It felt like it was cool.
0:23:56 > 0:23:56For me, personally,
0:23:56 > 0:24:00I remember Saturday morning Live And Kicking definitely.
0:24:00 > 0:24:01With Tinchy's saturday morning sorted, in the evening,
0:24:01 > 0:24:05it was all about football.
0:24:05 > 0:24:10I love football so Match Of The Day was one of those,
0:24:10 > 0:24:10you just couldn't wait.
0:24:12 > 0:24:13My mum used to tell me,
0:24:13 > 0:24:16when I was four, I could name so many football players.
0:24:16 > 0:24:19I thought, "How did I know this at four.,"
0:24:19 > 0:24:20football has always been a part of me.
0:24:20 > 0:24:24Match Of The Day was something you couldn't wait for on a saturday.
0:24:24 > 0:24:26You just wanted to get in and watch Match Of The Day.
0:24:26 > 0:24:28Tincy, I couldn't agree more.
0:24:28 > 0:24:33In 1971, Deborah was watching a show with one of the best
0:24:33 > 0:24:34theme tunes of all time.
0:24:42 > 0:24:47Animal Magic hosted by Johnny Morris started in 1962
0:24:47 > 0:24:48anfd ran for 21 years. What a tune!
0:24:50 > 0:24:54You'd go and visit the animals in the zoo and these animals would
0:24:54 > 0:24:57move their mouths a bit and then there'd be this...
0:24:57 > 0:24:58He put words to it.
0:24:58 > 0:25:01'Do you mind if I come and sit on your lap?'
0:25:01 > 0:25:06'Don't you think you'd better support your baby's head, Delilah?'
0:25:06 > 0:25:10'Look, if you're so blinking clever, you look after him. Go on.'
0:25:10 > 0:25:13Lots of TV shows add voices to animals nowadays
0:25:13 > 0:25:15but Animal Magic was one of the first
0:25:15 > 0:25:18and Johnny Morris and his chums became an instant hit.
0:25:18 > 0:25:20It was funny, it was sharp,
0:25:20 > 0:25:23it was funny stuff coming out of those animals' mouths.
0:25:23 > 0:25:24That's an odd way of putting it.
0:25:24 > 0:25:28Its main aim was to teach kids all about animals.
0:25:28 > 0:25:31Johnny Morris was like the Steve Backshall of his day,
0:25:31 > 0:25:33- except he owned a shirt. - You must be very quiet,
0:25:33 > 0:25:36because a lot of noise seems to upset the mother panda.
0:25:36 > 0:25:39But I do think it gave me a place to learn about animals
0:25:39 > 0:25:42and to watch animals and be engaged with animals.
0:25:42 > 0:25:44It was entertaining and informative.
0:25:44 > 0:25:46But not always for Johnny.
0:25:46 > 0:25:49Ouch! Dear.
0:25:50 > 0:25:53So that's what our three celebs were watching on the telly
0:25:53 > 0:25:56but what do they remember most about being 12?
0:25:56 > 0:25:59Being 12, when you go into secondary school, it feels like,
0:25:59 > 0:26:01you feel like you're a big boy now,
0:26:01 > 0:26:03social life, girlfriends,
0:26:03 > 0:26:06growing up, it's really where it is now.
0:26:06 > 0:26:07It feels like a whole new world.
0:26:07 > 0:26:10It's very easy to spend your life
0:26:10 > 0:26:12trying to best guess what it is
0:26:12 > 0:26:17that life or your friends or your family are expecting of you,
0:26:17 > 0:26:19and it all getting ever so confusing.
0:26:19 > 0:26:23I think the most important thing is to find what it is that you're about.
0:26:23 > 0:26:27As well as being good, being 12, it was quite an awkward time.
0:26:27 > 0:26:30- You're about to become a teenager, aren't you?- Yeah,
0:26:30 > 0:26:31so there's a lot of changes.
0:26:31 > 0:26:34Your hormones are changing, your mind is changing.
0:26:34 > 0:26:36- Body, everything's changing. - And your body.
0:26:36 > 0:26:38And that's quite something to deal with.
0:26:38 > 0:26:40But you know, I quite like change
0:26:40 > 0:26:43and I think even then, I quite liked change,
0:26:43 > 0:26:44cos it presents lots of new stuff.
0:26:44 > 0:26:47While some of that stuff is really confusing
0:26:47 > 0:26:52and you don't know what to do about it, it's also really challenging.
0:26:52 > 0:26:54I wouldn't change anything if I was 12 again
0:26:54 > 0:26:57because I believe strongly everything happens for a reason.
0:26:57 > 0:27:00Maybe there are a couple of things where I may have made things easier
0:27:00 > 0:27:02but at the same time,
0:27:02 > 0:27:04the harder struggles you see when you're younger,
0:27:04 > 0:27:06it makes you appreciate and understand more
0:27:06 > 0:27:08and respect where you are now.
0:27:08 > 0:27:11Well, if I could talk to myself again when I was 12,
0:27:11 > 0:27:14I would tell myself that I am dyslexic
0:27:14 > 0:27:18and that I'm not as stupid as I think I am
0:27:18 > 0:27:22and that all the problems I've got with learning is purely because
0:27:22 > 0:27:25dyslexia is basically a learning disability.
0:27:25 > 0:27:29You do your stuff in life and you embrace it, you enjoy it.
0:27:29 > 0:27:34I still wish I'd got on that bus with my sister to go to Glastonbury.
0:27:34 > 0:27:37Don't lose your vision of what you want to do. I made that decision
0:27:37 > 0:27:40I wanted to be sitting here now, being a CBBC presenter
0:27:40 > 0:27:43and I never looked back, so I'd say to myself, "Carry on, lad.
0:27:43 > 0:27:44"Do exactly the same," really.
0:27:44 > 0:27:47Jazz hands? Jazz hands!
0:27:48 > 0:27:50So what have we learned?
0:27:50 > 0:27:53If you're ever lucky enough to see a total eclipse,
0:27:53 > 0:27:55remember it's not that fun for everyone
0:27:55 > 0:27:59Scary! Dead scary, really, really, really scary.
0:27:59 > 0:28:01If you're a rock band picking characters,
0:28:01 > 0:28:04make sure you don't get left looking like a badger.
0:28:04 > 0:28:08And if you don't want a free baby, don't sit beside a gorilla.
0:28:08 > 0:28:10'You look after him, go on.'
0:28:10 > 0:28:12Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd