Episode 9

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04Coming up, three celebs become 12 Again.

0:00:04 > 0:00:07A brick wall just put up in the middle of a room!

0:00:07 > 0:00:11How on earth has somebody stepped on the moon?

0:00:11 > 0:00:13It was awful. People laughed.

0:00:13 > 0:00:16And we catch up with UK rapper Wretch 32.

0:00:16 > 0:00:19I was cheeky, lippy, I'd answer back.

0:00:19 > 0:00:22I was that kind of kid. A proper little wretch.

0:00:22 > 0:00:24Want to find out more? Well, have you ever wondered

0:00:24 > 0:00:27what it would have been like to be best mates

0:00:27 > 0:00:31with your favourite celebs when they were your age?

0:00:31 > 0:00:33What did they get up to?

0:00:33 > 0:00:37What were their favourite songs, and what TV shows did they watch?

0:00:37 > 0:00:41Because despite the glamorous lifestyles they now lead,

0:00:41 > 0:00:44once they were a kid with a dream, just like you.

0:00:44 > 0:00:48This show lets you look back in time with your favourite celebs

0:00:48 > 0:00:51as they become 12 Again.

0:00:54 > 0:00:57# I'm driving home for Christmas... #

0:00:57 > 0:01:01She may be the superstar singing Queen of the Jungle today...

0:01:01 > 0:01:04but back in 2001, Stacey Solomon was already

0:01:04 > 0:01:06head and shoulders above the competition.

0:01:06 > 0:01:09I was so tall when I started secondary school.

0:01:09 > 0:01:13I felt really lanky, I was very, very tall.

0:01:13 > 0:01:17He's a football pundit who has sport running through his veins.

0:01:17 > 0:01:19And in 1969, Mark Lawrenson was...

0:01:19 > 0:01:21exactly the same.

0:01:21 > 0:01:23I was absolutely football mad.

0:01:23 > 0:01:27It probably, it'd be fair to say, ran my life.

0:01:27 > 0:01:28Action.

0:01:30 > 0:01:32From Prank Patrol to Blue Peter,

0:01:32 > 0:01:37he is one of the most-loved faces on CBBC, after me! But back in 1991,

0:01:37 > 0:01:40Barney Harwood had a real issue with his clothes.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43Nothing really worked when I wore it. Anything.

0:01:43 > 0:01:46I think I was the wrong size. I was malproportioned.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48I had a big head and a small body.

0:01:48 > 0:01:50It may all be glitz and glamour today,

0:01:50 > 0:01:52but it wasn't always that way,

0:01:52 > 0:01:55so let's go back and find out what they were like when they were kids.

0:01:57 > 0:02:01I had really frizzy hair, braces.

0:02:01 > 0:02:04So I was quite unfortunate-looking.

0:02:04 > 0:02:08I was, like, a lanky, spotty, long-haired kid.

0:02:08 > 0:02:11I don't think I ever followed any fashion.

0:02:11 > 0:02:14My dad properly had an influence on what I wore as a kid.

0:02:14 > 0:02:16His phrase was, "Good stuff, that, Barn."

0:02:16 > 0:02:19And it would mean that it was either two for one,

0:02:19 > 0:02:20or he had a pair himself.

0:02:20 > 0:02:24I always wore the most ridiculous amounts of jewellery, even though

0:02:24 > 0:02:26we weren't allowed at school.

0:02:26 > 0:02:27I had massive dolly necklaces,

0:02:27 > 0:02:31great big hoops with balls on the end. Oh, my goodness.

0:02:31 > 0:02:34I used to wear glasses, so it made the whole thing just comedy.

0:02:34 > 0:02:38I looked a bit like a comedy character that I played recently.

0:02:38 > 0:02:40A guy called Quiz Show Colin.

0:02:40 > 0:02:43- I prefer the glasses to the hat. - That's quite scary.

0:02:43 > 0:02:46That was the same year I discovered that I wanted a girlfriend.

0:02:46 > 0:02:49I wanted to be like everybody else who had girlfriends

0:02:49 > 0:02:51but nobody really fancied me when I was 12.

0:02:51 > 0:02:55I think it's the first time I really started to get quite upset

0:02:55 > 0:02:58about, you know, not fitting in.

0:03:00 > 0:03:03So that's what our celebs were like when they were 12,

0:03:03 > 0:03:05but what did they get up to?

0:03:05 > 0:03:08I think, in the '60s, it was either, you were either sporting

0:03:08 > 0:03:12or you were a swot.

0:03:12 > 0:03:16When I was 12, it would be football from August through to May

0:03:16 > 0:03:19and then cricket, May till August, maybe even September,

0:03:19 > 0:03:22and I was just absolutely sport mad.

0:03:23 > 0:03:25When I was 12, I had two best friends.

0:03:25 > 0:03:28One was called Jade and one was called Joely.

0:03:28 > 0:03:32Before school we'd all meet up and we'd go to the sweet shop

0:03:32 > 0:03:34and we'd buy the sourest sweets we could buy

0:03:34 > 0:03:39cos we thought it was cool and strong to eat sour sweets.

0:03:39 > 0:03:41I just loved being with Jade and Joely.

0:03:46 > 0:03:49When I was 12 years old, I was learning to play the piano,

0:03:49 > 0:03:51and I used to do assemblies.

0:03:51 > 0:03:54And this one particular week, I decided that I would play

0:03:54 > 0:03:57one of my classical pieces that I was learning.

0:03:57 > 0:03:59I'll never forget it, because I played it so wrong.

0:03:59 > 0:04:01So, so wrong.

0:04:01 > 0:04:03CLUNKING PIANO NOTES

0:04:03 > 0:04:05It was awful. People laughed.

0:04:05 > 0:04:10In 1991, Barney may have faced embarrassment in assembly,

0:04:10 > 0:04:14but in the 1960s, Mark's school was a lot tougher.

0:04:14 > 0:04:16If I'm being honest,

0:04:16 > 0:04:19it was the strictest school you could possibly ever go to.

0:04:19 > 0:04:24Erm, like, just corporal punishment was just almost a regular thing

0:04:24 > 0:04:25if you stepped out of line.

0:04:25 > 0:04:30Now, Corporal Punishment wasn't some army guy who visited schools

0:04:30 > 0:04:32and told off the naughty kids, no.

0:04:32 > 0:04:33Let me give you a clue.

0:04:33 > 0:04:36SLAPPING

0:04:36 > 0:04:39That's right. If you were naughty at school in the '60s,

0:04:39 > 0:04:42teachers were able to use physical punishment.

0:04:42 > 0:04:45That means teachers using things like this, the cane,

0:04:45 > 0:04:47to punish people who've done wrong.

0:04:47 > 0:04:50And it's not just the cane, of course.

0:04:50 > 0:04:53The belt or the strap or the tawse, as it's called,

0:04:53 > 0:04:55is used a lot in Scotland and in Northern Ireland.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00It may sound tough, but no-one was exempt from the cane.

0:05:00 > 0:05:04I think the boys'd feel hostile towards the girls

0:05:04 > 0:05:07if they got the cane and girls didn't.

0:05:07 > 0:05:09- Have you been caned?- Yes.

0:05:09 > 0:05:11The cane, it's a sort of,

0:05:11 > 0:05:15a sort of silent watcher over all the schools.

0:05:15 > 0:05:19But for Mark, the punishment was even scarier than the cane.

0:05:19 > 0:05:22Used to get this thing called ferulas, right?

0:05:22 > 0:05:25And ferulas was like a handle and then a piece of whale bone,

0:05:25 > 0:05:29about that long and that thick. And you used to get it on your hand.

0:05:29 > 0:05:33As if animal skeleton wasn't enough, in the 1970s,

0:05:33 > 0:05:36kids were inventing ways to punish themselves.

0:05:36 > 0:05:41This is a punishment machine for the classroom in the future.

0:05:41 > 0:05:45It's got a cane there, an automatic cane and this grabber here

0:05:45 > 0:05:49picks people up, puts them over the stool there and they get whacked.

0:05:49 > 0:05:54Erm, yeah, fortunately the iSpank 5000 didn't quite catch on.

0:05:54 > 0:05:56But if you think that's mad...

0:05:56 > 0:06:01discipline in Stacey's house was totally bonkers!

0:06:01 > 0:06:04Me and my sister are 18 months apart, so I remember being at war

0:06:04 > 0:06:06with my sister all the time and my dad,

0:06:06 > 0:06:11he was like, "That's it, you're both having separate rooms now."

0:06:11 > 0:06:14We came home from school and there was a brick wall

0:06:14 > 0:06:16in the middle of the room that we shared,

0:06:16 > 0:06:19and through the middle of the window.

0:06:19 > 0:06:22A brick wall, just put up in the middle of the room!

0:06:22 > 0:06:24It is the craziest thing. We were like,

0:06:24 > 0:06:27"Dad! I know we argue, but that's crazy!

0:06:27 > 0:06:30"We haven't even got a whole window!"

0:06:30 > 0:06:34So now we know what our celebs were like when they were kids.

0:06:34 > 0:06:37But what was everyone listening to?

0:06:37 > 0:06:40MUSIC: "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" by Jimi Hendrix

0:06:40 > 0:06:43When I was 12, I think it was the first time,

0:06:43 > 0:06:46it was the year that I realised what I felt about music,

0:06:46 > 0:06:48more importantly, what music did to me,

0:06:48 > 0:06:51and I discovered Jimi Hendrix for the first time.

0:06:54 > 0:06:58American rock legend Jimi Hendrix is considered by many

0:06:58 > 0:07:02to be the greatest guitarist of all time.

0:07:02 > 0:07:05Jimi Hendrix used to make the guitar scream.

0:07:05 > 0:07:08Guitars aren't supposed to make noises like that.

0:07:08 > 0:07:10GUITAR HOWLS

0:07:12 > 0:07:16Although American, Hendrix rose to fame in the UK in the '60s

0:07:16 > 0:07:19with his unique guitar style.

0:07:19 > 0:07:22That stomping bassline that you can't help but dance to.

0:07:22 > 0:07:25MUSIC: "Purple Haze" by Jimi Hendrix

0:07:26 > 0:07:28Daw-daw-daw-da-aw, daw-daw-daw-da-aw!

0:07:28 > 0:07:32I mean, just the riffs that guy could come up with!

0:07:35 > 0:07:39And no matter what he did, you couldn't help but go, "Da-na-na-na!"

0:07:39 > 0:07:41Grit your teeth and bang your head.

0:07:41 > 0:07:44It was the first time music ever made me do that,

0:07:44 > 0:07:46and I've been loving it ever since.

0:07:47 > 0:07:50Jimi Hendrix died in 1970,

0:07:50 > 0:07:54just four years after releasing his first single.

0:07:55 > 0:07:58But from Slash to Paramore...

0:07:59 > 0:08:02..his legendary skills have influenced

0:08:02 > 0:08:05virtually every rock musician who has picked up a guitar since.

0:08:05 > 0:08:08Jimi Hendrix is awesome.

0:08:08 > 0:08:13The 1960s were the golden age of rock.

0:08:13 > 0:08:18And when Mark was 12 in 1969, he remembers this classic track.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21The David Bowie record Space Oddity.

0:08:21 > 0:08:25I remember one of the lines in it, "Ground control to Major Tom."

0:08:25 > 0:08:29# Ground control to Major Tom

0:08:31 > 0:08:35# Ground control to Major Tom... #

0:08:35 > 0:08:40The outrageous rock star David Bowie was the Lady Gaga of his generation.

0:08:40 > 0:08:43He first released this song when Mark was 12.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48# Ground control to Major Tom... #

0:08:48 > 0:08:52But it wasn't until he became Ziggy Stardust in 1972

0:08:52 > 0:08:57that he went stellar and was mobbed by fans everywhere he went.

0:08:57 > 0:09:01- I kissed him!- I kissed his hand! - I kissed his hand!- I kissed his hand!

0:09:01 > 0:09:03I kissed him, I went, oh!

0:09:03 > 0:09:07- Oh, he's lovely!- I've been waiting to see him for ages! He's fantastic!

0:09:07 > 0:09:08Don't worry, I kissed his hand!

0:09:08 > 0:09:11All right, ladies. But you didn't have to be

0:09:11 > 0:09:13a screaming teenage girl to be a Bowie fan.

0:09:13 > 0:09:17It's as good as a show to us. We've never seen anything like this before.

0:09:17 > 0:09:18- Haven't you?- No.

0:09:18 > 0:09:22For football-mad Mark, it was Bowie's music, not his image,

0:09:22 > 0:09:24that left a lasting impression.

0:09:24 > 0:09:26I remember him wearing make-up as well.

0:09:26 > 0:09:30I seem to recall, on one of his album covers, he had a dress on once.

0:09:30 > 0:09:35I mean, it's all a bit weird to a 12-year-old, but...great voice.

0:09:35 > 0:09:38While Bowie may have baffled Mark when he was 12,

0:09:38 > 0:09:43in Essex, Stacey knew exactly what music she was lovin' in 2001.

0:09:43 > 0:09:45I remember DJ Pied Piper

0:09:45 > 0:09:47with Do You Really Like It?

0:09:47 > 0:09:50# Do you really like it? Do you really like it?

0:09:50 > 0:09:53# We're lovin' it, lovin' it, lovin' it

0:09:53 > 0:09:55# We're lovin' it like this... #

0:09:55 > 0:09:58The UK garage scene started in the early '90s,

0:09:58 > 0:10:02but it wasn't until the end of the decade that it got really big.

0:10:04 > 0:10:07I just loved that style of music at the time.

0:10:08 > 0:10:11When anyone had a party, it was those kind of songs.

0:10:11 > 0:10:14# Make you laugh like when you was a little child again... #

0:10:14 > 0:10:17With cool acts like Oxide & Neutrino...

0:10:17 > 0:10:19# Bound for the bound Bound for the reload... #

0:10:19 > 0:10:22..and facial hair fan Daniel Bedingfield...

0:10:22 > 0:10:24# I gotta get thru this... #

0:10:24 > 0:10:28..garage was massive when Stacey was 12, literally.

0:10:28 > 0:10:31There was loads of them in So Solid Crew.

0:10:31 > 0:10:35I liked So Solid Crew cos there was about 20 people,

0:10:35 > 0:10:37and then there was one girl, Lisa Maffia...

0:10:37 > 0:10:40# I got 21 seconds to pass the mic... #

0:10:40 > 0:10:43..who I thought was really cool cos she was the only girl

0:10:43 > 0:10:46and all these boys behind her. I thought, "She's really good."

0:10:46 > 0:10:49# We're going to get right to the top of it

0:10:49 > 0:10:51# Cos I-II, oh-oh, oh-oh, 20... #

0:10:51 > 0:10:55Garage went on to influence both grime and dubstep,

0:10:55 > 0:10:57and today, artists like Dizzee Rascal...

0:10:59 > 0:11:03..and Chase & Status keep the spirit of garage alive, just better.

0:11:05 > 0:11:09It was so bouncy and there were so many good beats in it

0:11:09 > 0:11:13and everyone, as soon as they heard it, would be happy and I loved it.

0:11:13 > 0:11:17You could say she was "Lovin' it, lovin' it, lovin' it!"

0:11:17 > 0:11:20OK, that's enough of that. Sorry.

0:11:24 > 0:11:27Still to come, we catch up with UK rapper Wretch 32.

0:11:27 > 0:11:31I used to suck my thumb when I was a baby, when I was young

0:11:31 > 0:11:34for years, so my teeth were out, little buck teeth.

0:11:34 > 0:11:39And we find out what TV our celebs were tuned into when they were 12.

0:11:39 > 0:11:43There'd be a row of kids, and we'd all swing our pants.

0:11:43 > 0:11:47When that music came on, the theme music came on, that was me.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50They were really silly and funny. One minute they were there,

0:11:50 > 0:11:54then they were doing competitions, and I just thought it was lovely.

0:11:56 > 0:12:00But first, let's see what big moments had an impact on our celebs

0:12:00 > 0:12:01when they were 12.

0:12:01 > 0:12:03I remember my mum and dad saying,

0:12:03 > 0:12:06"You have to watch this. This is really important. This is massive."

0:12:06 > 0:12:09Man actually landed on the moon.

0:12:09 > 0:12:12In the 1960s, everyone was space mad

0:12:12 > 0:12:15because the two most powerful nations on the planet,

0:12:15 > 0:12:21the USA and Russia, were locked in a competition to explore space.

0:12:21 > 0:12:23It was called the Space Race.

0:12:23 > 0:12:27The first astronauts underwent intense training,

0:12:27 > 0:12:30like G-force resistance, simulated launches

0:12:30 > 0:12:33and get in the rocket, Rover!

0:12:33 > 0:12:38'These are Russian space-dogs, going through their training.

0:12:38 > 0:12:40'They've got to get used to tremendous speeds,

0:12:40 > 0:12:44'which they will gather as they go up into the sky.'

0:12:44 > 0:12:49Yes, unbelievably, the first space travellers were animals.

0:12:49 > 0:12:51By 1961, though, Russia went one better

0:12:51 > 0:12:56when Yuri Gagarin became the first human in space.

0:12:56 > 0:12:59'Ignition sequence starts.'

0:12:59 > 0:13:04But by 1969, America's Apollo 11 mission achieved the ultimate goal.

0:13:04 > 0:13:07It landed a spacecraft on the surface of the moon.

0:13:07 > 0:13:10'The surface appears to be almost like a powder.'

0:13:10 > 0:13:14And Neil Armstrong became the first man to get out

0:13:14 > 0:13:15and check out the view.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18'OK, Neil, we can see you coming down the ladder now.'

0:13:18 > 0:13:21As the most famous astronaut in the galaxy,

0:13:21 > 0:13:24he said 11 words that would go down in history.

0:13:24 > 0:13:27"That's one small step for man.

0:13:27 > 0:13:30"One giant leap for mankind."

0:13:30 > 0:13:34The crew travelled a quarter of a million miles to the moon,

0:13:34 > 0:13:38using a guidance computer that had a slower processor

0:13:38 > 0:13:40than what's in today's average smartphone.

0:13:40 > 0:13:44In many, many ways, it just didn't seem real.

0:13:44 > 0:13:47I think, like most 12-year-old kids, you thought,

0:13:47 > 0:13:51"How on earth has somebody stepped on the moon?"

0:13:51 > 0:13:54And you just think, "Nah, that can't be real."

0:13:54 > 0:13:58Time to come back down to earth and a big event

0:13:58 > 0:14:01that affected Stacey personally when she was still at school.

0:14:01 > 0:14:04I remember being naughty at school for a couple of years,

0:14:04 > 0:14:08and eventually, the teachers had had enough and just said

0:14:08 > 0:14:10that I wasn't listening, I wasn't concentrating,

0:14:10 > 0:14:12and progressively I got worse.

0:14:12 > 0:14:14Because of bad behaviour,

0:14:14 > 0:14:17her family decided to withdraw her from the school she loved.

0:14:17 > 0:14:20And that was it, my dad took me out of school

0:14:20 > 0:14:21and put me into another school.

0:14:23 > 0:14:25That was the worst punishment I've ever had,

0:14:25 > 0:14:28was just to be taken out of what I thought

0:14:28 > 0:14:31was the best thing in the world, and it was gone, like, that day.

0:14:31 > 0:14:36Leaving school affected Stacey personally when she was a kid.

0:14:36 > 0:14:42But it was a tragedy in the world of music that Barney remembers in 1991.

0:14:45 > 0:14:47Pop star Freddie Mercury,

0:14:47 > 0:14:51the former lead singer with the world-famous band Queen, has died.

0:14:51 > 0:14:54Recently he'd revealed he was suffering from AIDS, a disease

0:14:54 > 0:14:58which destroys the body's ability to fight off even simple infections.

0:14:58 > 0:15:02I think when you're 12, it's important to have heroes

0:15:02 > 0:15:04and it's important to look up to people,

0:15:04 > 0:15:06and I think you do gauge your personality a little bit

0:15:06 > 0:15:10on other people that you're influenced by.

0:15:10 > 0:15:13Freddie Mercury for me is just the best front man there's ever been.

0:15:13 > 0:15:19# We are the champions, my friend... #

0:15:19 > 0:15:24Freddie Mercury was the driving force behind the rock band Queen

0:15:24 > 0:15:26and wrote many of their biggest hits

0:15:26 > 0:15:29but is best known for his incredible vocal range

0:15:29 > 0:15:31and amazing stage presence.

0:15:31 > 0:15:33# We are the champions... #

0:15:33 > 0:15:35He had the ability to command a stadium.

0:15:35 > 0:15:38Not just a few people who've come to watch them play,

0:15:38 > 0:15:41a stadium filled with, I mean, it was 100,000 people

0:15:41 > 0:15:44at the biggest gig he played to. He was just incredible.

0:15:44 > 0:15:46# ..Of the world! #

0:15:46 > 0:15:51Throughout his career, Freddie Mercury released over 30 albums.

0:15:51 > 0:15:55He even managed to release another with Queen after he died,

0:15:55 > 0:15:58as he'd already recorded his vocals

0:15:58 > 0:16:00and left them for the rest of the band.

0:16:00 > 0:16:02But it was the news of Freddie's death

0:16:02 > 0:16:04that Barney remembers when he was 12.

0:16:04 > 0:16:07It was the first time I'd felt loss.

0:16:07 > 0:16:09This is someone I don't know, I've never met the guy,

0:16:09 > 0:16:11he didn't come round to the house.

0:16:11 > 0:16:14He was in the house every day, on the speakers, but it was weird

0:16:14 > 0:16:18to think that somebody who was such an icon or such a musician,

0:16:18 > 0:16:20somebody that I obviously loved,

0:16:20 > 0:16:22could have that kind of effect on you when he went.

0:16:22 > 0:16:26# The show must go on... #

0:16:26 > 0:16:30Freddie Mercury died aged just 45.

0:16:30 > 0:16:35He and the music he created will be remembered forever.

0:16:35 > 0:16:37Those tunes, they'll stand the test of time

0:16:37 > 0:16:40because he just had the ability to grab you like that.

0:16:40 > 0:16:46# But my smile still stays on. #

0:16:47 > 0:16:50Still to come, we ask the all-important question,

0:16:50 > 0:16:54what would our celebs do if they were 12 again?

0:16:54 > 0:16:57If I could be 12 again now, I'd go straight back to school,

0:16:57 > 0:16:59roll my skirt up, put my dolly necklace on,

0:16:59 > 0:17:02chuck my hoops in and have a good time.

0:17:02 > 0:17:06I would change the fact that I was obviously so one-dimensional.

0:17:06 > 0:17:10I guess I would tell myself that, you know, it's good to be different.

0:17:12 > 0:17:14# No, don't leave me now... #

0:17:14 > 0:17:19Before that, it's time to spend two minutes with UK rapper Wretch 32.

0:17:19 > 0:17:21# See, I swear

0:17:21 > 0:17:23# I ain't never seen the sky so clear... #

0:17:23 > 0:17:27He got a number one with his massive hit Don't Go,

0:17:27 > 0:17:31but what was Wretch 32 like when he was a kid?

0:17:32 > 0:17:33I was always very skinny

0:17:33 > 0:17:36and I used to suck my thumb when I was a baby,

0:17:36 > 0:17:38so my teeth were kind of out, I had buck teeth.

0:17:38 > 0:17:42I was cheeky, lippy, I'd answer back,

0:17:42 > 0:17:45I was that kind of kid, a proper little wretch, I was.

0:17:45 > 0:17:47His personality as a kid

0:17:47 > 0:17:50may have inspired the name we now know him by

0:17:50 > 0:17:54but what influenced Wretch 32 musically when he was 12?

0:17:54 > 0:17:58It's always got to be Michael Jackson.

0:17:58 > 0:18:01He had me trying to moonwalk in my kitchen

0:18:01 > 0:18:05because in the kitchen, there was no carpet, we had a smoother surface

0:18:05 > 0:18:08so I had to learn it in the kitchen, then take it to the front room.

0:18:08 > 0:18:10# Annie, are you OK?

0:18:10 > 0:18:12# You've been hit by a smooth criminal... #

0:18:12 > 0:18:17The King of Pop didn't invent the dance. It's been around for decades.

0:18:17 > 0:18:20And here's a man moonwalking on Top Of The Pops

0:18:20 > 0:18:24a year before Jackson made the move famous in 1983.

0:18:26 > 0:18:28No one's ever going to moonwalk like Mike.

0:18:28 > 0:18:31But we can try.

0:18:33 > 0:18:36When Wretch wasn't dancing like Jackson,

0:18:36 > 0:18:38he was just wishing he was older.

0:18:38 > 0:18:42I just remember being 12 and thinking, "Yes! Next year I'm 13."

0:18:42 > 0:18:45And then you think 13 is such a big jump, and you're like,

0:18:45 > 0:18:48"When I get to 13, I'm going to be like, bigger,

0:18:48 > 0:18:51"and I'm going to be like this and I'm going to be like that,"

0:18:51 > 0:18:54but it's still the same as being 12, probably,

0:18:54 > 0:18:57but 12 was a fun year, definitely a fun year.

0:18:57 > 0:19:01I had no responsibilities, no worries, and everything was fun, man.

0:19:02 > 0:19:05Time to get back to business and find out

0:19:05 > 0:19:09what Stacey, Barney and Mark were watching when they were 12.

0:19:09 > 0:19:13I remember watching Dick and Dom loads at 12.

0:19:14 > 0:19:18They were always really, really silly and funny.

0:19:18 > 0:19:20But back when Stacey was 12,

0:19:20 > 0:19:23Dick and Dom weren't in Da Bungalow or in the Kingdom of Fyredor.

0:19:23 > 0:19:26In fact, they had just become a double act

0:19:26 > 0:19:28in their first TV show together, Bring It On.

0:19:29 > 0:19:32"Your Bring It On challenge is to be catwalk supermodels."

0:19:32 > 0:19:35- We've got to be supermodels?- That's what it says. First stop Glasgow.

0:19:35 > 0:19:38Hang on! But I'm only five foot five!

0:19:38 > 0:19:42From cowboys to catwalk models, they've travelled the world

0:19:42 > 0:19:44trying out some tough careers.

0:19:44 > 0:19:48We've got five days to learn how to be a DJ and an MC, one of each.

0:19:48 > 0:19:51At the end of this, we have to do a gig in front of loads of people.

0:19:51 > 0:19:53How long have we got, again?

0:19:53 > 0:19:54Five days!

0:19:54 > 0:19:58On tight deadlines, they faced tough judges,

0:19:58 > 0:20:01and even the mighty Simon Cowell.

0:20:01 > 0:20:03What are the elements of a really good pop song?

0:20:03 > 0:20:06What elements do you think we should include?

0:20:06 > 0:20:08The best pop songs are the ones that have sold the most.

0:20:08 > 0:20:12Yes, back then, Simon may not have been able to afford an assistant

0:20:12 > 0:20:15to keep his desk tidy, but it looks like he always had

0:20:15 > 0:20:17his signature high waistband. Yeah, it's there.

0:20:17 > 0:20:19But when it came to the crunch,

0:20:19 > 0:20:22how did Dick and Dom do in these challenges?

0:20:22 > 0:20:25# You've really got my tail in a spin! #

0:20:25 > 0:20:28- Shut up.- Well, pretty bad in general. - Go on, leave.

0:20:28 > 0:20:30Right. See you later.

0:20:30 > 0:20:32From failing to impress on the catwalk...

0:20:32 > 0:20:37- Don't use the kilt like it's a frou-frou skirt.- OK.

0:20:37 > 0:20:40..to even getting dressed as cowboys

0:20:40 > 0:20:43and as DJs they were more greengrocer than Professor Green.

0:20:43 > 0:20:45DRUM AND BASS MUSIC

0:20:45 > 0:20:47# We're Dom and Dommer!

0:20:49 > 0:20:51# He's a banana!

0:20:51 > 0:20:54- What?- You're talking nonsense!

0:20:54 > 0:20:56But in the face of these tough challenges...

0:20:56 > 0:21:00Look at that. How am I going to mix with a hand like that?

0:21:00 > 0:21:03..the dynamic duo always seemed to pull it off on the night.

0:21:03 > 0:21:06# And when I say Richie, you say Billy. Richie!

0:21:06 > 0:21:09# Billy! Richie!

0:21:09 > 0:21:11Don't give up the day job, though, boys, eh?

0:21:14 > 0:21:17Let's go back over 30 years to 1969,

0:21:17 > 0:21:18and I'm sure you won't be too surprised

0:21:18 > 0:21:22to find out what sports-mad 12-year-old Mark was watching.

0:21:22 > 0:21:27When I was 12, I mean, the only TV show for me was Match Of The Day.

0:21:27 > 0:21:32MUSIC: Match Of The Day theme

0:21:32 > 0:21:35When that music came on, happy days.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38Surprise, surprise, when Mark wasn't playing football,

0:21:38 > 0:21:39he was watching it.

0:21:39 > 0:21:41Good evening. Tonight, Derby County,

0:21:41 > 0:21:44the only unbeaten side in the first division, play Spurs.

0:21:44 > 0:21:48Mark's favourite football show has been on TV for decades.

0:21:48 > 0:21:52It made its debut in 1964, and way before Gary Lineker fronted it,

0:21:52 > 0:21:54the anchorman was David Coleman.

0:21:54 > 0:21:58We'll begin with the game at the Baseball Ground, Derby versus Spurs.

0:21:58 > 0:22:01Derby, third in the table this morning, against Spurs,

0:22:01 > 0:22:04who lay in seventh place. Your commentator is Barry Davies.

0:22:04 > 0:22:06That was the definitive programme

0:22:06 > 0:22:09because it told you everything about certainly the first division,

0:22:09 > 0:22:12the big division, and showed you all the action and the goals.

0:22:12 > 0:22:16We all sat there as a family and we'd have a bowl of sweets,

0:22:16 > 0:22:18which again was like,

0:22:18 > 0:22:20"Fantastic, we can have sweets and watch Match Of The Day."

0:22:20 > 0:22:2312-year-old kid? Great.

0:22:23 > 0:22:29As a lifelong fan, Mark became a regular pundit on the show in 2007.

0:22:29 > 0:22:33Eventually, it turned full circle and I was actually on it as a pundit.

0:22:33 > 0:22:37It was all a bit sort of weird. In many ways, it was like an old friend,

0:22:37 > 0:22:39because since the age of 11, 12,

0:22:39 > 0:22:42I knew everything there was to know about this programme

0:22:42 > 0:22:44because it was my programme,

0:22:44 > 0:22:48and then to actually appear on it on a regular basis was very strange.

0:22:48 > 0:22:53Saturday seems to be the celebs' favourite day on TV.

0:22:53 > 0:22:55And for Barney, he didn't have to wait long

0:22:55 > 0:22:59as his favourite show was on when he was having breakfast.

0:22:59 > 0:23:00Going Live.

0:23:00 > 0:23:03# Going, Going, Going Live! #

0:23:03 > 0:23:05Back when Barney was a kid,

0:23:05 > 0:23:09Going Live was THE show to watch on a Saturday morning.

0:23:09 > 0:23:12It was presented by Phillip Schofield

0:23:12 > 0:23:16and ex-Blue Peter presenter Sarah Greene,

0:23:16 > 0:23:19but the real comedy came from Trevor and Simon.

0:23:19 > 0:23:21- I'm Trev.- And I'm Simon.

0:23:22 > 0:23:25Trevor and Simon were the comedy act

0:23:25 > 0:23:28everyone spoke about in the playground the following Monday.

0:23:28 > 0:23:31They kept us laughing through the '80s and '90s

0:23:31 > 0:23:35with more catchphrases than Little Britain.

0:23:35 > 0:23:37And they don't do perms, Trevor and Simon, you'll know that.

0:23:37 > 0:23:38They don't do perms.

0:23:38 > 0:23:42- We don't do perms, Ken! - No, no, Eddie. We don't do perms.

0:23:42 > 0:23:45We don't do perms, Ken! We don't do perms!

0:23:45 > 0:23:47It's random, but I love it.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50- We don't do perms!- Eddie, Eddie!

0:23:50 > 0:23:51My favourite was Swing Your Pants.

0:23:51 > 0:23:54Swing your pants to all your animal favourites for only 4.99.

0:23:54 > 0:23:57Join in and swing your pants.

0:23:57 > 0:23:59# Any old lion, any old lion Any any any old lion... #

0:23:59 > 0:24:02Did you see Trevor and Simon swinging their pants?

0:24:02 > 0:24:03# Daddy's taking us to the zoo... #

0:24:03 > 0:24:06There'd be a row of kids, the kids that I hung out with, anyway,

0:24:06 > 0:24:09and we'd all swing our pants. They were hugely influential.

0:24:09 > 0:24:11# We're going to swing our pants, pants, pants

0:24:11 > 0:24:13# With the elephants, phants, phants

0:24:13 > 0:24:16# We're going to swing our pants, pants, pants

0:24:16 > 0:24:17# With the elephants. #

0:24:17 > 0:24:20I think Saturday morning TV was the best when I was 12.

0:24:20 > 0:24:21It was amazing. I loved it.

0:24:21 > 0:24:24Even with all the talent on display,

0:24:24 > 0:24:28there was one character on Going Live that always stole the show.

0:24:28 > 0:24:31This morning, we welcome a retired civil servant,

0:24:31 > 0:24:36Mr Gordon T Gopher of Shepherd's Bush, to Mastermind.

0:24:36 > 0:24:41Mr Gopher, your first question in your specialist area is this.

0:24:41 > 0:24:44Name the British dish dating back to mediaeval days,

0:24:44 > 0:24:47traditionally made from the leftovers of Sunday lunch

0:24:47 > 0:24:50to include cabbage, potatoes and cheese - bubble and...

0:24:50 > 0:24:51HE SQUEAKS

0:24:51 > 0:24:54- Correct.- Even though he could make just one noise...

0:24:54 > 0:24:57Gordon the Gopher truly spoke to the nation.

0:24:57 > 0:25:00Have you washed your hands? HE SQUEAKS

0:25:00 > 0:25:03Since Gordon, many more talented animals and plants

0:25:03 > 0:25:05have followed in his footsteps.

0:25:07 > 0:25:09Edd the Duck was next to join CBBC,

0:25:09 > 0:25:12alongside arch enemy Wilson the Butler.

0:25:12 > 0:25:14# Hey, Edd! #

0:25:14 > 0:25:18Multi-talented Edd even released a single.

0:25:18 > 0:25:21# I'm Edd the Duck and I'm an awesome dood...

0:25:21 > 0:25:23"Awesome dood"?

0:25:23 > 0:25:26Next came Otis the Aardvark.

0:25:26 > 0:25:29It's me!

0:25:29 > 0:25:31Before CBBC went green

0:25:31 > 0:25:36and unleashed musical plant Oucho the Cactus onto our screens.

0:25:36 > 0:25:39OUCHO PLAYS "BAKER STREET"

0:25:43 > 0:25:45Which brings us up to date with Hacker the Dog.

0:25:45 > 0:25:47You gotta watch this.

0:25:47 > 0:25:49PARP

0:25:49 > 0:25:51# You gotta watch this... #

0:25:51 > 0:25:54He's a terrier with attitude and a soft spot for Susan Barker.

0:25:54 > 0:25:57Susan! Mmah!

0:25:57 > 0:26:00- You taste like chicken!- Sorry, you got a bit of lipstick on there.

0:26:00 > 0:26:04So those were the TV memories of our three celebs,

0:26:04 > 0:26:07but what do they remember most about being 12?

0:26:07 > 0:26:11The best thing about being 12 was my friends

0:26:11 > 0:26:14and everything was new, everything was cool

0:26:14 > 0:26:16and anything went.

0:26:16 > 0:26:19I was discovering who I was, I think,

0:26:19 > 0:26:22I think it's the time when I started to look at influences in music,

0:26:22 > 0:26:25I started to develop my own personal style,

0:26:25 > 0:26:27so it was a big year for me,

0:26:27 > 0:26:29as far as developing what I was wanting to do.

0:26:29 > 0:26:34Your life was just oh-so-simple, you just came home, did your homework

0:26:34 > 0:26:37and then you had this free time until you had to go to bed.

0:26:37 > 0:26:40Life was completely uncomplicated.

0:26:40 > 0:26:45If I could give my 12-year-old self a piece of advice for the future,

0:26:45 > 0:26:49I'd tell her to just enjoy everything that she ever does,

0:26:49 > 0:26:52cos she's a very lucky girl.

0:26:52 > 0:26:56I would change the fact that I was obviously so one-dimensional,

0:26:56 > 0:27:00because if I sat down in front of myself, I would now seriously say,

0:27:00 > 0:27:04"You might think your life's good, playing football, going to school,

0:27:04 > 0:27:06"there is so much more to life than that, my son."

0:27:06 > 0:27:09If I was to tell my 12-year-old self anything,

0:27:09 > 0:27:10I would say not to worry about stuff.

0:27:10 > 0:27:14I did worry quite a lot about what I was doing, where I was going.

0:27:14 > 0:27:17It's not a massive deal when you're 12,

0:27:17 > 0:27:19you've time to figure out what you want to do

0:27:19 > 0:27:21and I don't think you should be worried at 12 years old.

0:27:21 > 0:27:26I guess I would tell myself, you know, it's good to be different.

0:27:26 > 0:27:29If I could be 12 again now, I'd go straight back to school,

0:27:29 > 0:27:32roll my skirt up, put my dolly necklace on,

0:27:32 > 0:27:34chuck my hoops in and have a good time.

0:27:34 > 0:27:38Yes, Stacey, I'd wear my dolly necklace too.

0:27:38 > 0:27:41So what have we learned?

0:27:41 > 0:27:43Always keep your dog on a lead.

0:27:43 > 0:27:45You don't know what they'll get up to if you don't.

0:27:47 > 0:27:50If you see this thing coming towards you in school...

0:27:50 > 0:27:52It's got an automatic cane, and they get whacked.

0:27:52 > 0:27:54..run!

0:27:54 > 0:27:57And if you're after entertainment for your birthday party...

0:27:57 > 0:27:58# We're Dom and Dommer... #

0:27:58 > 0:28:01..I'd give these two a miss.

0:28:01 > 0:28:02# He's a banana! #

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