0:00:01 > 0:00:04Coming up, our celebs become 12 again...
0:00:04 > 0:00:06I looked about 40 when I was 12.
0:00:06 > 0:00:09Looking a little bit like something from a horror movie!
0:00:09 > 0:00:14- I clearly wasn't as cool. - You weren't as cool as me!
0:00:14 > 0:00:17..and we catch up with the hottest new pop band from America,
0:00:17 > 0:00:19Hot Chelle Rae.
0:00:19 > 0:00:22I would tell my 12-year-old self not to date the girl I met
0:00:22 > 0:00:25when I was 14 years old.
0:00:25 > 0:00:27THEY LAUGH HYSTERICALLY
0:00:27 > 0:00:29Want to know what's so funny?
0:00:29 > 0:00:32Well, have you ever wondered what it would've been like
0:00:32 > 0:00:34to be best mates
0:00:34 > 0:00:37with your favourite celebs when they were your age?
0:00:37 > 0:00:39What did they get up to?
0:00:39 > 0:00:41What were their favourite songs?
0:00:41 > 0:00:43And what TV shows did they watch?
0:00:43 > 0:00:46Because despite the glamorous lifestyles they now lead,
0:00:46 > 0:00:50once they were a kid with a dream, just like you.
0:00:50 > 0:00:54This show lets you look back in time with your favourite celebs
0:00:54 > 0:00:57as they become 12 again.
0:01:00 > 0:01:02# I'm going to leave the day behind... #
0:01:02 > 0:01:06As two members of the number-one selling grime crew Roll Deep...
0:01:06 > 0:01:08# We're going to have a real good time... #
0:01:08 > 0:01:12..Brazen and Manga know how to show you guys a good time,
0:01:12 > 0:01:16and even back in the late '90s they knew how to get the party started.
0:01:16 > 0:01:19When I was 12 years old, football and my music, that was it.
0:01:19 > 0:01:21That was all I was into...
0:01:21 > 0:01:22And eating.
0:01:23 > 0:01:28I just used to talk a lot. Just trying to talk and learn...
0:01:28 > 0:01:29BOTH: And talk.
0:01:29 > 0:01:33THEY LAUGH
0:01:33 > 0:01:35She's a top music critic, radio DJ and TV presenter
0:01:35 > 0:01:39who gets to make friends with A-list celebs for a living...
0:01:39 > 0:01:40Unlike me.
0:01:40 > 0:01:44The likes of Muse, Gorillaz, we've got Dizzee, we've got Florence,
0:01:44 > 0:01:46we've got Vampire Weekend coming up.
0:01:46 > 0:01:51But back in 1985, Edith Bowman's mates weren't so close.
0:01:51 > 0:01:54I remember there being lots of falling-outs and making friends
0:01:54 > 0:01:57and falling-outs and making friends again with people,
0:01:57 > 0:02:00and I think that's all about everyone finding themselves
0:02:00 > 0:02:01and finding who they are.
0:02:01 > 0:02:05And he's the British TV legend who's been on loads of shows,
0:02:05 > 0:02:09and was even the first ever Newsround presenter,
0:02:09 > 0:02:13where, he was as famous for his jumpers as for presenting the news.
0:02:13 > 0:02:19Finally, a new musical masterpiece got a sheepish response in Holland.
0:02:19 > 0:02:23But in 1952, John Craven was less chic and more geek.
0:02:23 > 0:02:26When I was 12 I was skinny.
0:02:26 > 0:02:30I wasn't all that good at sport cos I got hurt too easily.
0:02:30 > 0:02:33You know, when we were playing rugby and games like that.
0:02:33 > 0:02:35So I was a bit pathetic, really.
0:02:35 > 0:02:37It might be bright lights and showbiz today,
0:02:37 > 0:02:41but when they were kids they had no idea what they were going to become.
0:02:41 > 0:02:44So let's go back and find out what they were like at 12.
0:02:44 > 0:02:48I was a cool kid. In school I was cool.
0:02:48 > 0:02:51I was really into sport. I loved netball.
0:02:51 > 0:02:55I was quite into model-making and having a bit of an adventure.
0:02:55 > 0:02:58- I had hair then. - I was going to say...!
0:02:58 > 0:03:00When I was 12 I had hair. It was like silk!
0:03:00 > 0:03:02THEY LAUGH
0:03:02 > 0:03:06I was a big fan of the perm. I looked about 40 when I was 12.
0:03:06 > 0:03:10My hairstyle was just short back and sides, like everybody else's, really.
0:03:10 > 0:03:14I even had braces as well at them ages. Braces and glasses.
0:03:14 > 0:03:16I always had everything first.
0:03:16 > 0:03:18Doggy hats, I was the first one to wear that.
0:03:18 > 0:03:21First to wear NY hat in the whole school.
0:03:21 > 0:03:24The first person with bubbles. Everything! And I was the youngest.
0:03:24 > 0:03:29- I clearly wasn't as cool. - You weren't as cool as me!
0:03:29 > 0:03:32Well, we're talking about 1952.
0:03:32 > 0:03:3412-year-olds then were not as fashion-conscious
0:03:34 > 0:03:38as they are today. I wore shorts till I was about 14, 12, 14.
0:03:38 > 0:03:39People did in those days.
0:03:39 > 0:03:42Apart from always wearing shorts,
0:03:42 > 0:03:45having permed hair or even hair like silk,
0:03:45 > 0:03:47what did our celebs get up to?
0:03:47 > 0:03:49When I was 12,
0:03:49 > 0:03:51I was just a big ball of energy.
0:03:51 > 0:03:54I was really into sport, I was really into music.
0:03:54 > 0:03:56I loved reading.
0:03:56 > 0:03:59I thought I was good at Maths until I got to secondary school
0:03:59 > 0:04:02and realised I was pretty rubbish!
0:04:03 > 0:04:07I wasn't very good at sport but I was very adventurous.
0:04:07 > 0:04:09I loved climbing trees
0:04:09 > 0:04:13and we'd go out into the countryside on our bikes for the day.
0:04:13 > 0:04:15It was an exciting time.
0:04:17 > 0:04:23I was really fast. I was in all of the A teams in football, basketball.
0:04:23 > 0:04:27We played hockey, athletics, I was the fastest in the year.
0:04:29 > 0:04:33I weren't fast, never had the best clothes,
0:04:33 > 0:04:35but I always liked music and talking to girls.
0:04:35 > 0:04:37I was always good at that cos I was funny.
0:04:37 > 0:04:39I was THAT guy, the funny one.
0:04:39 > 0:04:42I used to fight like cat and dog with my little brother.
0:04:42 > 0:04:44There was seven years between us.
0:04:44 > 0:04:47And it started off by that whole thing where,
0:04:47 > 0:04:50"I've got my own little real doll to play with," type-thing.
0:04:50 > 0:04:54And then it's when he got annoying, you know, that fighting started.
0:04:54 > 0:04:58So I probably got told off all the time from my mum and dad
0:04:58 > 0:05:00for being horrible to my little brother.
0:05:01 > 0:05:06Back in 1952, John had quite an unusual job to do at school.
0:05:08 > 0:05:13One of my jobs at school was to be the Infectious Diseases Monitor.
0:05:13 > 0:05:17I had to go round every Thursday afternoon with this book
0:05:17 > 0:05:21and ask in every class if anybody was ill
0:05:21 > 0:05:23with any of these infectious diseases.
0:05:25 > 0:05:28In the 1950s there weren't as many vaccinations as there are now.
0:05:28 > 0:05:31There were injections for TB and whooping cough,
0:05:31 > 0:05:34but not measles, mumps and rubella.
0:05:37 > 0:05:40Eventually more vaccines were developed
0:05:40 > 0:05:44and the need for an Infectious Diseases Monitor became outdated.
0:05:44 > 0:05:47But for John, there were still some conditions
0:05:47 > 0:05:49that couldn't be prevented.
0:05:49 > 0:05:53I suffered from eczema on my hands, on my fingers,
0:05:53 > 0:05:55were all sort of spotty with eczema.
0:05:55 > 0:05:59So I had bandages wrapped round my fingers on both hands,
0:05:59 > 0:06:03and the reason was to stop me scratching it cos it is very itchy.
0:06:03 > 0:06:05So there was I,
0:06:05 > 0:06:08looking a little bit like something from a horror movie,
0:06:08 > 0:06:13going around asking if anybody else had got infectious diseases!
0:06:13 > 0:06:18Brazen in the late '90s got embarrassed in a very different way.
0:06:18 > 0:06:20I remember going on a school trip.
0:06:20 > 0:06:23I'd come out of the showers, gone back to the room,
0:06:23 > 0:06:27and the other lot of girls was walking down the corridor.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30And I've come into the room
0:06:30 > 0:06:33and my mate pulled my towel off
0:06:33 > 0:06:37and pushed me back outside... in the corridor.
0:06:37 > 0:06:38I'm naked! HE LAUGHS
0:06:38 > 0:06:43I've gone to run back to the showers, then I see my teacher's coming...
0:06:43 > 0:06:47- You're killing it!- ..and I just got stuck in the middle, naked.
0:06:47 > 0:06:49One of the worst experiences I've ever had.
0:06:49 > 0:06:53You've seen what our celebs were getting up to while they were kids,
0:06:53 > 0:06:57but what was the soundtrack to their childhood?
0:06:57 > 0:07:00When I was 12 years old,
0:07:00 > 0:07:02I was a big hip-hop fan.
0:07:02 > 0:07:07He had that tune with Puff Daddy, Hate Me Now.
0:07:07 > 0:07:10# You could hate me now... #
0:07:10 > 0:07:13Lucky for Naz, not many people hate him now...or then.
0:07:13 > 0:07:16He is one of the most popular rappers ever.
0:07:16 > 0:07:18He's sold millions of records
0:07:18 > 0:07:22and was voted the fifth-greatest MC of all time by MTV.
0:07:25 > 0:07:29And the video had a big effect on the boys, too.
0:07:29 > 0:07:30It was like a film.
0:07:30 > 0:07:32It was all explosions, Puff Daddy was looking expensive.
0:07:32 > 0:07:34Always, like usual.
0:07:34 > 0:07:37Yeah. It was definitely like a big-budget Hollywood movie.
0:07:37 > 0:07:38I thought, "Yeah."
0:07:38 > 0:07:40But no matter how expensive the video was,
0:07:40 > 0:07:44it still didn't match the supreme pop catchiness
0:07:44 > 0:07:46of Manga's Guilty Pleasure.
0:07:46 > 0:07:48I liked Spice Girls, to tell the truth.
0:07:48 > 0:07:51# If you wanna be my lover You got to get with my friends... #
0:07:51 > 0:07:53And Manga was not alone.
0:07:53 > 0:07:57The Spice Girls were the biggest girl band of the '90s.
0:07:57 > 0:08:02But for Manga in London, it wasn't exactly the cool music to listen to.
0:08:03 > 0:08:05Er, not that that stopped him.
0:08:05 > 0:08:08# Slam your body down and zigazig, ah! #
0:08:08 > 0:08:09You know which one I did like,
0:08:09 > 0:08:12and I think I shouldn't have really liked?
0:08:12 > 0:08:14- You're going to say 2 Become 1.- Yeah!
0:08:14 > 0:08:16That tune was all right!
0:08:16 > 0:08:19# Cos tonight is the night when... #
0:08:19 > 0:08:22- BOTH:- # ..two become one... #
0:08:22 > 0:08:26# I need some love now I'm back for more
0:08:26 > 0:08:27# Wanna make love... #
0:08:27 > 0:08:30# ..to ya, baby... #
0:08:31 > 0:08:35In 1996 Manga's favourite Spice Girls song
0:08:35 > 0:08:38became the third chart-topping single for the band
0:08:38 > 0:08:40and was that year's Christmas number one.
0:08:40 > 0:08:43As a big man now, and a musician, I can say, "That song was OK,"
0:08:43 > 0:08:46but at the time I knew it wasn't all right for me to like that.
0:08:46 > 0:08:50# It's the only way to be... #
0:08:50 > 0:08:54While Manga was singing along to girl bands in the '90s...
0:08:54 > 0:09:00John in Yorkshire was discovering the original pop music of the '50s.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03Well, I was very lucky because for my 12th birthday,
0:09:03 > 0:09:07my parents bought me a little record player.
0:09:07 > 0:09:09And coinciding with that
0:09:09 > 0:09:13was the very first list of best-selling singles.
0:09:13 > 0:09:15When John was a kid,
0:09:15 > 0:09:19the first ever pop charts were created by magazine the NME.
0:09:19 > 0:09:22Rather than a Top 40, it was a Top 12.
0:09:22 > 0:09:26Still, for the first time ever, people could find out what was at
0:09:26 > 0:09:28that all-important number one spot.
0:09:29 > 0:09:34The very first number one was sung by an American crooner
0:09:34 > 0:09:37called Al Martino, and it was called Here In My Heart.
0:09:37 > 0:09:41# Here in my heart... #
0:09:41 > 0:09:45It was the first record that I ever bought.
0:09:45 > 0:09:48Al Martino rose to fame in the early '50s
0:09:48 > 0:09:51and was the Michael Buble of his day.
0:09:51 > 0:09:54Sadly, this song was his only number one.
0:09:54 > 0:09:57Even though it was the early days of the charts,
0:09:57 > 0:10:00there were still some pretty dodgy songs around back then.
0:10:00 > 0:10:03In those days people liked novelty records.
0:10:03 > 0:10:06I remember How Much Is That Doggy In The Window?
0:10:06 > 0:10:10# How much is that doggy in the window? #
0:10:10 > 0:10:13Sung by a lady called Lita Roza.
0:10:13 > 0:10:15You'd be embarrassed to hear it today.
0:10:17 > 0:10:20JOHN: # How much is that doggy in the window?
0:10:20 > 0:10:23# The one with the waggly tail... #
0:10:25 > 0:10:26So embarrassing now.
0:10:26 > 0:10:28I don't see what's so embarrassing(!)
0:10:28 > 0:10:31Whilst John was listening to the novelty songs of the '50s,
0:10:31 > 0:10:34what was Edith listening to in the '80s?
0:10:34 > 0:10:36Madonna, Papa Don't Preach.
0:10:36 > 0:10:40# Please, Papa, don't preach I'm in trouble deep... #
0:10:40 > 0:10:43- With her cropped, blonde hair... - # Papa, don't preach... #
0:10:43 > 0:10:46I remember the dance, as well, that she did. Oh, I love that song.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49# But I made up my mind I'm keepin' my baby... #
0:10:49 > 0:10:53When pop queen Madonna blew up in the early '80s
0:10:53 > 0:10:55nobody could've predicted she'd go on to become
0:10:55 > 0:11:00one of the world's top-selling female artists of all time.
0:11:01 > 0:11:04She had a lasting impact on Edith,
0:11:04 > 0:11:08as did a video from the '80s that has stayed in her memory for ever.
0:11:11 > 0:11:13Visually, I hugely remember Sledgehammer by Peter Gabriel.
0:11:13 > 0:11:17# You could have a big dipper
0:11:17 > 0:11:23# Going up and down all around the bends... #
0:11:23 > 0:11:27It was like something no-one had ever done before,
0:11:27 > 0:11:29that video, with what is now Aardman.
0:11:29 > 0:11:32# This amusement never ends... #
0:11:32 > 0:11:36Aardman are the people who now make Shaun The Sheep, Wallace & Gromit,
0:11:36 > 0:11:38and Pirates.
0:11:40 > 0:11:43But when Edith was 12 this was the first ever music video animation
0:11:43 > 0:11:45that they'd made.
0:11:48 > 0:11:49# Sledgehammer... #
0:11:49 > 0:11:52The video was considered ground-breaking at the time
0:11:52 > 0:11:55and won nine video music awards,
0:11:55 > 0:11:57a record still unbeaten to this day.
0:11:57 > 0:12:00It was so new at the time and it so fitted the song as well.
0:12:00 > 0:12:03Hey, if you think this is weird and wonderful,
0:12:03 > 0:12:06wait til you see what's still to come!
0:12:07 > 0:12:10We catch up with Hot Chelle Rae...
0:12:10 > 0:12:13I took classes and learned how to crotchet!
0:12:13 > 0:12:15- When you were 12?!- Yeah.
0:12:15 > 0:12:17..and we find out what TV our celebs were watching.
0:12:17 > 0:12:21You watch it as a kid and go, "Oh, I want to be in the audience."
0:12:21 > 0:12:23- The flip...- Yeah, that was the one.
0:12:23 > 0:12:28He used to do magic tricks but they never seemed to work out very well.
0:12:28 > 0:12:30SWEEP LAUGHS
0:12:30 > 0:12:33But first, let's find out what news stories had a big impact
0:12:33 > 0:12:35on our celebs when they were 12.
0:12:36 > 0:12:40The biggest news during my year of being 12
0:12:40 > 0:12:43was, of course, the Coronation of the Queen.
0:12:43 > 0:12:45ARCHIVE: 'Her Majesty, the Queen,
0:12:45 > 0:12:48'wearing her shimmering white Coronation gown,
0:12:48 > 0:12:53'entered the Royal stagecoach in the courtyard of Buckingham Palace.'
0:12:53 > 0:12:58The Coronation of Queen Elizabeth took place in June 1953.
0:12:58 > 0:13:01She was crowned Queen in a lavish ceremony in Westminster Abbey.
0:13:03 > 0:13:06With the country still recovering from the effects
0:13:06 > 0:13:08of the Second World War,
0:13:08 > 0:13:11Britain desperately needed something to lift its spirits.
0:13:11 > 0:13:14In those days, Britain was a pretty gloomy place.
0:13:14 > 0:13:17Times were tough, there was still rationing of food.
0:13:17 > 0:13:20Suddenly, this beautiful young girl was going to be our Queen,
0:13:20 > 0:13:22and it seemed to lighten everything up.
0:13:22 > 0:13:25Millions of people lined the streets of London,
0:13:25 > 0:13:30and many camped out for days to catch a glimpse of the new Queen.
0:13:30 > 0:13:35And for those who couldn't be there, it was broadcast live to the nation.
0:13:35 > 0:13:38ARCHIVE: 'The BBC's television outside broadcast facilities,
0:13:38 > 0:13:42'including a score of cameras, have been concentrated in London.'
0:13:42 > 0:13:43This was a massive deal,
0:13:43 > 0:13:48as lots of people had never seen a live event on television.
0:13:48 > 0:13:50Everybody wanted to see it happen.
0:13:50 > 0:13:53The only trouble was that not many of us had television sets.
0:13:53 > 0:13:56You had to be quite well-off to have one.
0:13:56 > 0:14:00We luckily knew somebody down the street who did have one.
0:14:00 > 0:14:03And we all crowded into her sitting room,
0:14:03 > 0:14:0620-odd people, I think, crowding in to watch the ceremony
0:14:06 > 0:14:08on a very small television set.
0:14:10 > 0:14:13'Thousands are surging up the Mall towards the Palace,
0:14:13 > 0:14:18'which has now become the focus of everybody's efforts and attention.'
0:14:18 > 0:14:23It brought the whole nation together in front of television sets.
0:14:23 > 0:14:27Around 27 million people watched the Coronation on TV,
0:14:27 > 0:14:30and a further 11 million listened on the radio,
0:14:30 > 0:14:35meaning that practically the entire nation witnessed the event.
0:14:35 > 0:14:40And of course the result of that was that everyone wanted to buy one.
0:14:40 > 0:14:45A few months later, we got one, and the Craven family become TV viewers.
0:14:46 > 0:14:49In 1997, when Manga was 12,
0:14:49 > 0:14:54the world of fashion lost one of its most iconic designers.
0:14:54 > 0:14:58One big story I remember, when Versace got shot.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01'Gianni Versace, the fashion designer'
0:15:01 > 0:15:04who dressed some of the most famous women in the world,
0:15:04 > 0:15:07was shot dead today on the steps of his mansion in Miami Beach.
0:15:07 > 0:15:10That was a big news story that always stuck out with me.
0:15:10 > 0:15:11It was on the news all the time.
0:15:11 > 0:15:16In July 1997, Gianni Versace was murdered in Miami.
0:15:16 > 0:15:20He was one of the most famous fashion designers of the '90s,
0:15:20 > 0:15:25who had celebrity fans from all over the world.
0:15:25 > 0:15:29He should be considered extremely dangerous, and armed at this time.
0:15:31 > 0:15:35The man who killed Versace was found dead shortly afterwards,
0:15:35 > 0:15:38so the reason why Versace was murdered remains a mystery.
0:15:38 > 0:15:42But it was Versace's personal life that opened a young Manga's eyes
0:15:42 > 0:15:45to a world he didn't know about.
0:15:45 > 0:15:49They kept saying his boyfriend was at the house or near,
0:15:49 > 0:15:51and I didn't understand it.
0:15:51 > 0:15:54Like, now, I understand there's gay people,
0:15:54 > 0:15:58but I didn't really understand it, but yeah, I understand it now.
0:16:00 > 0:16:02One of the big serious stories when I was 12
0:16:02 > 0:16:04was the kidnapping of Terry Waite.
0:16:04 > 0:16:07'Terry Waite hasn't been seen publicly in Beirut'
0:16:07 > 0:16:09for more than 24 hours...
0:16:09 > 0:16:13The kidnappers were now detaining Mr Waite against his will.
0:16:13 > 0:16:17In 1987, Terry Waite was a church representative
0:16:17 > 0:16:20who was sent to Beirut in Lebanon
0:16:20 > 0:16:24to help release several people who had been taken hostage there.
0:16:24 > 0:16:27Sadly, he himself was captured.
0:16:30 > 0:16:35At the time, Lebanon was in the middle of a civil war.
0:16:35 > 0:16:38There was lots of fighting and tension between people,
0:16:38 > 0:16:42and to make matters worse many, like Terry Waite, were being kidnapped.
0:16:44 > 0:16:48One thing that really does stick in my head, the images of it,
0:16:48 > 0:16:50and it being everywhere,
0:16:50 > 0:16:53it being on the news, of it being in the newspapers,
0:16:53 > 0:16:58whenever you turned on the TV, it was being talked about.
0:16:58 > 0:17:01After nearly five long years in captivity,
0:17:01 > 0:17:06Terry Waite was released on 18th November 1991.
0:17:06 > 0:17:09It's an overwhelming experience,
0:17:09 > 0:17:14to come back and receive your greetings.
0:17:14 > 0:17:18Whilst he went on to write a book detailing his experience,
0:17:18 > 0:17:22luckily for him, the ordeal was finally over.
0:17:24 > 0:17:28Still to come, we ask the all-important question -
0:17:28 > 0:17:31what would our celebs do if they were 12 again?
0:17:31 > 0:17:35Enjoy your childhood. Don't try to be a young adult yet.
0:17:35 > 0:17:36I'd definitely say have more of a plan,
0:17:36 > 0:17:38have more idea what you're trying to do.
0:17:38 > 0:17:41Have as much fun as I possibly could.
0:17:41 > 0:17:45Before that, we've got two minutes to find out what hot new band
0:17:45 > 0:17:48Hot Chelle Rae were like when they were 12.
0:17:48 > 0:17:49Who wrote this?!
0:17:49 > 0:17:51# We're going out tonight Tonight
0:17:51 > 0:17:54# There's a party on the rooftop Top of the world
0:17:54 > 0:17:56# Tonight, tonight. #
0:17:56 > 0:17:59Nash, Ian and brothers Ryan and Jamie are Hot Chelle Rae,
0:17:59 > 0:18:03the band taking the world by storm with their catchy pop songs,
0:18:03 > 0:18:06and, may I say, top fashion sense.
0:18:06 > 0:18:10But have they always been such snappy dressers?
0:18:10 > 0:18:15I actually did something really interesting during that time.
0:18:15 > 0:18:18You know like the crocheted hats, like beanies?
0:18:18 > 0:18:21I was like, you know what, it can't be that difficult,
0:18:21 > 0:18:26- and I took classes and learnt how to crochet.- When you were 12?
0:18:26 > 0:18:31- Yeah. And I got really good at it. - That's so you!- I know!
0:18:31 > 0:18:35I got really good and I could make whatever colour I wanted. Perfect.
0:18:35 > 0:18:40Hey, crocheting's like the new knitting! I'm so on board right now.
0:18:40 > 0:18:43But for Nash, playing music was more his thing -
0:18:43 > 0:18:46either with his country-music-star dad or his brother Chord,
0:18:46 > 0:18:49who played Sam in Glee.
0:18:49 > 0:18:53He had a mandolin that he had got that was going to be his instrument.
0:18:53 > 0:18:56Every now and then, we'd try to play together
0:18:56 > 0:18:58and it would sound like cast iron,
0:18:58 > 0:19:03so it didn't happen too much before we got out of high school.
0:19:03 > 0:19:08And now we play together, write together, all the time.
0:19:08 > 0:19:11So when they weren't making music at home,
0:19:11 > 0:19:13what were Hot Chelle Rae listening to?
0:19:13 > 0:19:18When I was 12, I was listening to every type of music,
0:19:18 > 0:19:23something as heavy as...death metal bands like Morbid Angel...
0:19:23 > 0:19:24DEATH METAL MUSIC
0:19:28 > 0:19:30But I would also listen to the Spice Girls.
0:19:30 > 0:19:33# I'm giving you everything... #
0:19:33 > 0:19:37I pretended at school that I didn't like any pop music that was popular,
0:19:37 > 0:19:38even though I just loved it.
0:19:39 > 0:19:43- I was listening to Smashmouth. - Oh, my gosh!
0:19:43 > 0:19:44# Hey now... #
0:19:44 > 0:19:49Music aside, what would they do if they were 12 again?
0:19:49 > 0:19:51I would tell my 12-year-old self
0:19:51 > 0:19:56not to date the girl I met when I was 14 years old,
0:19:56 > 0:19:59because she was terrible.
0:19:59 > 0:20:02- Gem. What a gem!- No, no, no, no.
0:20:02 > 0:20:07- Did she break your heart? - No, not even close.
0:20:07 > 0:20:12It's OK, Jamie, we all get our hearts broken at some point!
0:20:12 > 0:20:15Enough of Jamie's unbroken heart, though.
0:20:15 > 0:20:17# I like it like that. #
0:20:17 > 0:20:19Let's get back to business
0:20:19 > 0:20:21and find out what Brazen and Manga,
0:20:21 > 0:20:24John and Edith were watching when they were 12.
0:20:25 > 0:20:27When I was 12,
0:20:27 > 0:20:32there was something utterly special about Top Of The Pops.
0:20:32 > 0:20:37Top Of The Pops was essential Thursday-night viewing in the '80s.
0:20:37 > 0:20:41It was one of Britain's longest-running TV shows,
0:20:41 > 0:20:45and was presented by the coolest radio DJs of the time.
0:20:45 > 0:20:49Now live on Top Of The Pops, and as pretty as a picture, A-ha.
0:20:49 > 0:20:54You watch it as a kid, and I guess cos there was nothing else like it,
0:20:54 > 0:20:56we didn't have streams of music channels to turn to.
0:20:56 > 0:21:00# And his thoughts are full of strangers. #
0:21:00 > 0:21:04It was that ritual thing of sitting down and watching it,
0:21:04 > 0:21:06having the volume so loud!
0:21:06 > 0:21:08I remember my dad constantly telling me to turn it down.
0:21:08 > 0:21:12If you hadn't heard a band, or you maybe had on the radio,
0:21:12 > 0:21:14you were, "Oh, that's what they look like!"
0:21:14 > 0:21:19Yep, it really was the only way to see your favourite bands.
0:21:19 > 0:21:22# It makes no difference how you want to swing it. #
0:21:22 > 0:21:26Which wasn't always such a good thing. Just check out these moves!
0:21:26 > 0:21:29I think she's got a dodgy stomach!
0:21:29 > 0:21:34All this made it for Edith the perfect place to be.
0:21:34 > 0:21:36Going, "Oh I want to be in the audience!
0:21:36 > 0:21:39"I want to watch Top Of The Pops."
0:21:39 > 0:21:42But little did Edith know, she would go on to do a lot more
0:21:42 > 0:21:45than just be in the audience for her favourite show.
0:21:45 > 0:21:47It's Top Of The Pops!
0:21:49 > 0:21:53Watching it as a kid and then going on to present a few shows
0:21:53 > 0:21:56was just like a total dream come true.
0:21:56 > 0:22:00That was the chart, that was Top Of The Pops, I'm Edith Bowman.
0:22:00 > 0:22:04Let's fast forward to the late '90s
0:22:04 > 0:22:08to find out what Roll Deep were watching on television.
0:22:08 > 0:22:10I remember watching Robot Wars.
0:22:10 > 0:22:12What?!
0:22:14 > 0:22:19Robot Wars was must-see TV for the nerd in 1998,
0:22:19 > 0:22:21originally hosted by Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson.
0:22:21 > 0:22:24What on Earth happened there?
0:22:24 > 0:22:25It was a slaughter!
0:22:25 > 0:22:30It was the only programme where you could get a remote-controlled car,
0:22:30 > 0:22:34strap on anything from a safety pin to a chainsaw
0:22:34 > 0:22:36and cause utter mayhem.
0:22:36 > 0:22:39- I used to watch it loads, and I thought...- We need a robot.
0:22:39 > 0:22:41Yeah, yeah! "I could build one."
0:22:41 > 0:22:43Try to come up with a little something.
0:22:43 > 0:22:48Towards the flaming pit! I wonder whether this will be...
0:22:48 > 0:22:49a barbecue!
0:22:49 > 0:22:53Contestants would spend agesbuilding robots,
0:22:53 > 0:22:58only for them to get totally smashed up by rival contestants
0:22:58 > 0:23:01or the dreaded house robots.
0:23:01 > 0:23:05They used to have the claws and fire.
0:23:05 > 0:23:08There was a wicked one that had a spinner on the front.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11Yeah, there was one, the one from Robot Wars,
0:23:11 > 0:23:15they had the house robots, what's the name? Best one!
0:23:15 > 0:23:17There was Matilda.
0:23:17 > 0:23:19Why was it called Matilda?
0:23:19 > 0:23:22'Prehistoric Matilda's next up with hydraulic tusks
0:23:22 > 0:23:24'and a truly lethal chainsaw tail.'
0:23:24 > 0:23:27If you thought Matilda was a funny name for a robot,
0:23:27 > 0:23:29then check out this lot.
0:23:29 > 0:23:32There was Killertron, Shogun,
0:23:32 > 0:23:37Grunt...and Barry! Some pretty brutal robots!
0:23:37 > 0:23:40Although some didn't quite live up to their name.
0:23:40 > 0:23:42See what I'm saying?
0:23:42 > 0:23:44The thing is, with Robot Wars, yeah,
0:23:44 > 0:23:48the idea of it was better than what was actually going on.
0:23:48 > 0:23:51'It needs to get away from that!
0:23:51 > 0:23:53'It could choke on a fur ball!'
0:23:53 > 0:23:57This one can spit fire, but it's not really... It flips over.
0:23:57 > 0:24:00'They're going to flip him!
0:24:00 > 0:24:03'No! It's all over!'
0:24:03 > 0:24:07Robot Wars was rubbish but really good at the same time.
0:24:07 > 0:24:09I loved every second of it.
0:24:10 > 0:24:14With Robot Wars, you either loved it or hated it,
0:24:14 > 0:24:18but it was the only place you could see a fluffy robotic ladybird
0:24:18 > 0:24:20get set on fire.
0:24:20 > 0:24:22Chin up, lads!
0:24:22 > 0:24:27Let's leave Nemesis hot under the collar and rewind to the '50s,
0:24:27 > 0:24:30to the Craven household in Yorkshire,
0:24:30 > 0:24:33where was one show was a particular favourite.
0:24:35 > 0:24:41One day, my parents came back from my dad's work's dinner,
0:24:41 > 0:24:45and they were raving about the cabaret act there, Harry Corbett,
0:24:45 > 0:24:48and he had a glove puppet called Sooty.
0:24:48 > 0:24:54He then got spotted by a TV producer and Sooty became a huge star.
0:24:54 > 0:24:58Sooty made his first TV appearance in 1952
0:24:58 > 0:25:02and got his own TV show in 1955.
0:25:02 > 0:25:05I say, where did all your friends go?
0:25:05 > 0:25:10The Sooty Show was a massive hit but Sooty himself needed a bit of work.
0:25:10 > 0:25:14He had to be adapted a little bit to work on black and white TV.
0:25:14 > 0:25:16He was a little brown bear.
0:25:16 > 0:25:18You couldn't really see the details.
0:25:18 > 0:25:21I gather that Harry Corbett gave him black ears and a black nose
0:25:21 > 0:25:23so he would stand out on TV.
0:25:23 > 0:25:26Once he got his new look,
0:25:26 > 0:25:30there was not much left to do except frustrate his owner.
0:25:30 > 0:25:34He used to do magic tricks but they never seemed to work out well.
0:25:34 > 0:25:39He had a little friend called Sweep, and Sweep made a squeaky noise.
0:25:39 > 0:25:43It was a very, very successful format,
0:25:43 > 0:25:45and it's still going strong today.
0:25:45 > 0:25:51Sooty is now the longest-running kids' TV programme in the UK.
0:25:54 > 0:25:58So those were the TV memories of our celebs,
0:25:58 > 0:26:01but what do they most remember about being 12?
0:26:01 > 0:26:03Looking back, I think 12's a great age,
0:26:03 > 0:26:06because it's that year and that age
0:26:06 > 0:26:12just before you do take that step into having to make decisions.
0:26:12 > 0:26:1512 was definitely a fun age to be.
0:26:15 > 0:26:17Definitely.
0:26:17 > 0:26:20Fun, games, laughter.
0:26:20 > 0:26:25You were just starting to head towards your teenage years,
0:26:25 > 0:26:28you were stopping being a little kid,
0:26:28 > 0:26:31you were starting to realise that girls were quite attractive.
0:26:31 > 0:26:37So if I was me, talking to my 12-year-old self again,
0:26:37 > 0:26:43I would just try and encourage myself to enjoy it and savour it
0:26:43 > 0:26:46and have as much fun as I could.
0:26:46 > 0:26:51You're in the middle of still being a child and thinking you're an adult
0:26:51 > 0:26:54and having to answer to your parents, thinking you're a grown-up.
0:26:54 > 0:26:57I think nowadays, there are so many temptations around
0:26:57 > 0:27:02to behave in a much older way, but enjoy your childhood.
0:27:02 > 0:27:04Don't try to be a young adult yet.
0:27:04 > 0:27:08Apart from doing music, I didn't know what I was doing.
0:27:08 > 0:27:11Whatever was the thing to do, I was doing that.
0:27:11 > 0:27:12I'd tell the 12-year-old me,
0:27:12 > 0:27:16"Bruv, fix up, try and know where you're going."
0:27:16 > 0:27:18I'd definitely tell him to have more of a plan,
0:27:18 > 0:27:20more of an idea what you're trying to do
0:27:20 > 0:27:22instead of just free-styling your way through life.
0:27:22 > 0:27:26It was a good time, being 12. Very few responsibilities.
0:27:26 > 0:27:30I just wish perhaps I hadn't had eczema on my hands.
0:27:30 > 0:27:34That was an unfortunate experience for quite a while,
0:27:34 > 0:27:37but apart from that, it was a great time.
0:27:40 > 0:27:42So what have we learnt?
0:27:42 > 0:27:45If you're going to spend time building your own robot,
0:27:45 > 0:27:49at least make sure it's fireproof.
0:27:49 > 0:27:51"And they're on fire. Get the fire brigade!"
0:27:51 > 0:27:55Raw chickens make surprisingly good dancers.
0:27:55 > 0:27:56Just wash your hands afterwards.
0:27:56 > 0:28:01And if you've never seen your favourite pop star on TV before,
0:28:01 > 0:28:04that could actually be a very good thing.
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