Episode 6

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04Coming up, three celebs become 12 again.

0:00:04 > 0:00:06I got my piano teacher to listen to Eminem,

0:00:06 > 0:00:07She was eighty-something.

0:00:07 > 0:00:10They sort of pooh-pooh your ideas and brush them aside

0:00:10 > 0:00:13and say, "Yes, yes, but we need to be realistic."

0:00:13 > 0:00:15Don't be weird with girls.

0:00:15 > 0:00:20And we catch up with the almighty Scissor Sisters.

0:00:20 > 0:00:22I wasn't too dissimilar from what I am now,

0:00:22 > 0:00:26just a big, loudmouth, know-it-all weirdo.

0:00:26 > 0:00:28Excited?

0:00:29 > 0:00:31He is.

0:00:31 > 0:00:34Ever wondered what it would have been like to be mates

0:00:34 > 0:00:37with your favourite celebs when they were your age?

0:00:37 > 0:00:41What did they get up to, what were their favourite songs,

0:00:41 > 0:00:43and what TV shows did they watch?

0:00:43 > 0:00:46Because despite the glamorous lifestyles they now lead,

0:00:46 > 0:00:50once, they were a kid with a dream just like you.

0:00:50 > 0:00:54This show lets you look back in time with your favourite celebs

0:00:54 > 0:00:57as they become 12 Again.

0:01:01 > 0:01:03# Girls, girls, girls I just can't say no... #

0:01:03 > 0:01:08He's the pop star who knows how to get the whole party jumping.

0:01:08 > 0:01:14But in 2004, Conor Maynard was busy with a different sort of bouncing.

0:01:14 > 0:01:16When I think back to then, all I can remember

0:01:16 > 0:01:19is being in the garden with my brother and my friends,

0:01:19 > 0:01:23we were always on the trampoline, and just playing different games.

0:01:23 > 0:01:27She's the star of both Waterloo Road and The Impressions Show,

0:01:27 > 0:01:28who loves nothing more

0:01:28 > 0:01:32than pretending to be some of Britain's best-known stars.

0:01:32 > 0:01:34You're an idiot.

0:01:34 > 0:01:35Brilliant!

0:01:35 > 0:01:38But back in 1984, Debra Stephenson

0:01:38 > 0:01:41was already dreaming of being a star herself.

0:01:41 > 0:01:44I wanted to do comedy and impressions,

0:01:44 > 0:01:48and that's what I was excited about, and school was a major drain on me.

0:01:48 > 0:01:52He's a Match of the Day Kickabout presenter

0:01:52 > 0:01:54and CBBC's expert on all things football.

0:01:54 > 0:01:57Let the games begin.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59Thank you, fans.

0:01:59 > 0:02:01It's time for this.

0:02:01 > 0:02:05But back in 1998, rugby was Ore Oduba's game.

0:02:05 > 0:02:08Being one of the largest people on the rugby pitch really helps you,

0:02:08 > 0:02:11because people end up running away from you

0:02:11 > 0:02:14if you're coming at them at some sort of pace.

0:02:14 > 0:02:18All are massive celebs today, but back when they were 12,

0:02:18 > 0:02:22they had no idea they'd become some of Britain's best-known faces.

0:02:22 > 0:02:26So let's rewind and find out what they were like then.

0:02:26 > 0:02:29When I was 12, I was one of the shortest of my friends.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31But I did eventually go through a growth spurt,

0:02:31 > 0:02:33and I became one of the tall kids.

0:02:33 > 0:02:36But I stayed there and everyone else carried on growing.

0:02:36 > 0:02:38So I became one of the short kids again!

0:02:38 > 0:02:42I had a chubby face, crooked teeth, a few zits...

0:02:42 > 0:02:46I looked like a walking disaster, and certainly felt like one.

0:02:46 > 0:02:48I was generally round.

0:02:48 > 0:02:51Everything about me was round,

0:02:51 > 0:02:54Literally. From my belly to my face to my hair.

0:02:54 > 0:02:56I was a younger version of this.

0:02:56 > 0:02:59My hair was actually pretty much the same.

0:02:59 > 0:03:00I kind of wore very baggy clothes,

0:03:00 > 0:03:02I was going through the skater phase.

0:03:02 > 0:03:06I had all my, kind of, really baggy jeans on,

0:03:06 > 0:03:07big, like, clunky shoes.

0:03:07 > 0:03:10I always sort of missed the mark in terms of fashion.

0:03:10 > 0:03:12My parents were quite keen to keep me as a child

0:03:12 > 0:03:14for as long as possible.

0:03:14 > 0:03:17I was pretty loud. I was kind of, I suppose the class joker.

0:03:17 > 0:03:21I tried paying attention, and sometimes I would go off a bit,

0:03:21 > 0:03:23and start messing around with my friends.

0:03:23 > 0:03:26I was quite a good boy, quite cheeky,

0:03:26 > 0:03:29didn't really get up to much trouble.

0:03:29 > 0:03:32But then sometimes what the teachers think is the good guy...

0:03:32 > 0:03:35Pulls a couple of tricks out of the bag.

0:03:35 > 0:03:37Oh, you sneaky guy!

0:03:37 > 0:03:39So that's how our celebs looked when they were 12,

0:03:39 > 0:03:42but what did they get up to?

0:03:42 > 0:03:44I remember starting secondary school,

0:03:44 > 0:03:47and it was so daunting, because it was massive.

0:03:47 > 0:03:52We had 1,600 pupils at our school. I just felt completely overwhelmed.

0:03:52 > 0:03:56All my reports said, "Debra could have done better."

0:03:56 > 0:03:58I used to get lost all the time and have to, like,

0:03:58 > 0:04:02pull on a big kid's jumper, "Can you tell me where the office is?"

0:04:02 > 0:04:03And they'd lead me to the field.

0:04:03 > 0:04:07I'd be standing in the field, like, "I don't think this is the office."

0:04:07 > 0:04:09Conor wasn't the only one of our celebs

0:04:09 > 0:04:12spending a lot of time outdoors at school.

0:04:12 > 0:04:15On the sports field was where I came alive, really.

0:04:15 > 0:04:18But then again, everything that I did in sport

0:04:18 > 0:04:22was generally for the chubby guy, the guy who filled the most space.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25Everything that would stop a ball, basically.

0:04:25 > 0:04:28He might have been a big bloke on the sports field,

0:04:28 > 0:04:33but Ore also had a more unusual interest at 12.

0:04:33 > 0:04:34I did ballet.

0:04:34 > 0:04:36Which, being a hockey player,

0:04:36 > 0:04:39was a really good way to improve my footwork.

0:04:39 > 0:04:42Friends didn't quite see it that way,

0:04:42 > 0:04:45and I did get slated a few times for that.

0:04:45 > 0:04:49In 2004, future pop star, Conor,

0:04:49 > 0:04:52was having a few problems with his stage presence.

0:04:53 > 0:04:57I used to have to stand in front of the class and give presentations,

0:04:57 > 0:05:01and I started to develop a thing where I used to stand there and sway.

0:05:01 > 0:05:03So I could never stand still.

0:05:03 > 0:05:05I'd be like, "Yeah, so anyway..."

0:05:05 > 0:05:08So that was kind of embarrassing.

0:05:08 > 0:05:11That's not embarrassing, Conor. Just ask Ore.

0:05:11 > 0:05:13It WAS a boys' school.

0:05:13 > 0:05:16But then girls were introduced.

0:05:16 > 0:05:18I didn't really know what a girl was.

0:05:18 > 0:05:21It must have been really daunting for them,

0:05:21 > 0:05:23especially people like me coming up to them and going,

0:05:23 > 0:05:26"Hello!

0:05:26 > 0:05:27"You're a girl!"

0:05:27 > 0:05:31In Hull, Debra was finding it hard to convince her teachers

0:05:31 > 0:05:34that her future lay in showbiz.

0:05:34 > 0:05:37Academically, I wasn't a good student,

0:05:37 > 0:05:41but I had outside interests that were nothing to do with school.

0:05:41 > 0:05:44My ambition was to be an impressionist.

0:05:44 > 0:05:46And I was really pretty focused.

0:05:46 > 0:05:49If you ever had chats about careers with teachers etc,

0:05:49 > 0:05:52they sort of pooh-pooh your ideas and brush them aside,

0:05:52 > 0:05:55and say, "Yes, yes, but we need to be realistic."

0:05:55 > 0:05:59Debra's not the only kid in the past

0:05:59 > 0:06:01to have been misunderstood by a careers advisor.

0:06:01 > 0:06:06It's now less than a year before you're going to be leaving school,

0:06:06 > 0:06:10so you've got to begin to think now what you'd like to do for a career.

0:06:10 > 0:06:15Back in the 1980s, career advice was a bit different to how it is today.

0:06:15 > 0:06:17In some schools, girls were often pushed

0:06:17 > 0:06:20towards becoming hairdressers or nurses,

0:06:20 > 0:06:24and for boys, well, there was always the Merchant Navy.

0:06:25 > 0:06:29You could liken it to being in a mobile floating jail.

0:06:30 > 0:06:32But it is relatively well paid.

0:06:32 > 0:06:35Has that attracted anybody into the Merchant Navy?

0:06:35 > 0:06:37A mobile floating jail?!

0:06:37 > 0:06:40Yeah, sounds great, mate!

0:06:40 > 0:06:43No need for career advice for Ore back in 1998, however.

0:06:43 > 0:06:45He already had his own, erm...

0:06:45 > 0:06:47..business?!

0:06:47 > 0:06:52When I was 12, I was making bookmarks for people,

0:06:52 > 0:06:56and drawing my own images of, like, Andy Cole,

0:06:56 > 0:06:59who at the time played for Newcastle,

0:06:59 > 0:07:02and try and sell them on for people as bookmarks.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04Needless to say, not many of them sold.

0:07:04 > 0:07:08Yeah, Ore, I, er...wonder why?

0:07:08 > 0:07:11So now we know what our celebs were getting up to at 12,

0:07:11 > 0:07:14but what were they listening to?

0:07:14 > 0:07:16Probably my favourite artist when I was 12,

0:07:16 > 0:07:18when I was in that transition

0:07:18 > 0:07:20between primary school and secondary school

0:07:20 > 0:07:22was probably Eminem.

0:07:22 > 0:07:23# Hi! My name is

0:07:23 > 0:07:24# What? My name is

0:07:24 > 0:07:25# Who? My name is... #

0:07:25 > 0:07:27We all know Eminem.

0:07:27 > 0:07:32He's the American rapper, record producer, songwriter and actor

0:07:32 > 0:07:36who took the world by storm with this single in 1999.

0:07:36 > 0:07:38# My name is Slim Shady... #

0:07:38 > 0:07:43By the time Conor was 12, Eminem was one of music's biggest stars.

0:07:43 > 0:07:44# ..Slim Shady... #

0:07:44 > 0:07:46I was a big fan of him.

0:07:46 > 0:07:49Obviously there was Toy Soldiers, which came out around then,

0:07:49 > 0:07:51that was probably one of my favourites.

0:07:54 > 0:07:58Like Toy Soldiers was based on a sample of a song

0:07:58 > 0:08:03originally released in 1989 by a female artist called Martika.

0:08:03 > 0:08:04# Bit by bit

0:08:04 > 0:08:07# Torn apart...#

0:08:07 > 0:08:10Conor was such a big fan of Eminem,

0:08:10 > 0:08:14he even shared his love of the rapper with an unlikely friend.

0:08:14 > 0:08:16# Guess who's back... #

0:08:16 > 0:08:18I got my piano teacher to listen to Eminem.

0:08:18 > 0:08:20She was eighty-something.

0:08:20 > 0:08:22She'd be sitting in her house listening to Eminem, trying to

0:08:22 > 0:08:26figure out the piano parts so she could teach me in my next lesson.

0:08:26 > 0:08:30Conor's love of Eminem at 12 was to have a major impact

0:08:30 > 0:08:33on the music he is now making himself.

0:08:33 > 0:08:35# Girls, girls, girls... #

0:08:35 > 0:08:39Eminem was quite influential on me. I'd never listened to rap before.

0:08:39 > 0:08:42It brought me into all this rap, and I think now,

0:08:42 > 0:08:46the music I'm doing myself kind of has a link towards that.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49While Conor was all about keeping it real

0:08:49 > 0:08:51with the hip hop, back in 2004,

0:08:51 > 0:08:53for Ore, it's a slightly different story.

0:08:53 > 0:08:56The one song that sticks in my head at the time

0:08:56 > 0:09:02was Baby One More Time by a certain Britney Spears.

0:09:02 > 0:09:06# My loneliness is killing me... #

0:09:06 > 0:09:09When that hit the charts, it was huge.

0:09:09 > 0:09:11# ..I still believe... #

0:09:11 > 0:09:12# Still believe! #

0:09:12 > 0:09:16Baby One More Time was Britney Spears's debut single.

0:09:16 > 0:09:20It became one of the biggest-selling tracks ever,

0:09:20 > 0:09:22shifting over nine million copies worldwide,

0:09:22 > 0:09:24and making Britney a global icon.

0:09:24 > 0:09:28# The reason I breathe is you... #

0:09:28 > 0:09:30I remember, cos a lot of my friends said they liked the song

0:09:30 > 0:09:33because they thought Britney was hot.

0:09:33 > 0:09:37I didn't think she was that hot. I just thought it was a banging track.

0:09:37 > 0:09:40Britney also had plenty other banging tracks.

0:09:40 > 0:09:43And she cored three more Top Five hits in the next 12 months

0:09:43 > 0:09:48for songs, Crazy, Sometimes and Born To Make You Happy.

0:09:48 > 0:09:52But it was her debut single that really made a big impression

0:09:52 > 0:09:53on a young Ore.

0:09:53 > 0:09:58To this day, I have Hit Me Baby One More Time on my mp3 player.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01Cue something cheesy from Ian in the voiceover.

0:10:01 > 0:10:03Me, cheesy?!

0:10:03 > 0:10:08Anyway, Ore, I'm more an Oops I Did It Again kind of girl.

0:10:08 > 0:10:11OK, let's move swiftly on and find out what music was big

0:10:11 > 0:10:13in Debra's world back in 1984.

0:10:15 > 0:10:18One of the biggest hits when I was 12 was 19 by Paul Hardcastle.

0:10:21 > 0:10:22# 19. #

0:10:24 > 0:10:2719 was an anti-war song about the Vietnam War,

0:10:27 > 0:10:31and the effect it had on the young American soldiers who fought in it.

0:10:31 > 0:10:34It seemed like an ordinary pop song, but was quite poignant.

0:10:34 > 0:10:38When you watch the video, there was a lot of footage of the Vietnam War,

0:10:38 > 0:10:40and one of the lines spoken in the song

0:10:40 > 0:10:42was that the average age

0:10:42 > 0:10:44of a soldier going into the Vietnam War was 19.

0:10:44 > 0:10:48Which is sort of shocking, you know, you think when you're 12,

0:10:48 > 0:10:49you're not that far off 19.

0:10:49 > 0:10:54Performed by composer and huge synthesiser fan, Paul Hardcastle,

0:10:54 > 0:10:5619 became a worldwide hit

0:10:56 > 0:11:01and stayed at Number One in the UK charts for five weeks.

0:11:01 > 0:11:05# ..Whose average age was 19... #

0:11:05 > 0:11:08It was a record with social history.

0:11:08 > 0:11:10And it was actually really interesting.

0:11:10 > 0:11:14Even thought the Vietnam War had ended in 1975,

0:11:14 > 0:11:17the way the song reflected on the impact of the conflict

0:11:17 > 0:11:20was to prove a bit of an eye-opener to a young Debra.

0:11:20 > 0:11:24You're starting to kind of become aware, I think, at 12,

0:11:24 > 0:11:26of the news stories and what's going on.

0:11:26 > 0:11:29I remember feeling that that was really daunting.

0:11:31 > 0:11:35Still to come, we catch up with the Scissor Sisters...

0:11:35 > 0:11:39I wanted to carry a briefcase to school instead of a backpack.

0:11:39 > 0:11:41- SHE LAUGHS - That's amazing!

0:11:41 > 0:11:44..Ore stays up late...

0:11:44 > 0:11:46I'd be keeping my eyes open to make sure I could make it

0:11:46 > 0:11:48from the start to the finish.

0:11:48 > 0:11:53..and Conor reveals the must-watch TV programme from 2004.

0:11:53 > 0:11:56If you missed it, you were out of the loop for a week.

0:11:56 > 0:11:58You had to wait till next week to have friends again.

0:11:58 > 0:12:01But first, let's find out the big news stories

0:12:01 > 0:12:03for our celebs when they were 12.

0:12:03 > 0:12:07England are preparing for the biggest match of their careers,

0:12:07 > 0:12:09tonight's eagerly awaited clash with Argentina.

0:12:09 > 0:12:13The big news story for me when I was 12

0:12:13 > 0:12:17was all about World Cup 1998 in France.

0:12:17 > 0:12:20Yes, back in 1998, England had made it through

0:12:20 > 0:12:24to the knockout stages of the World Cup,

0:12:24 > 0:12:27and were due to face a tough test against Argentina.

0:12:27 > 0:12:29This was a huge game.

0:12:29 > 0:12:33But England still had David Beckham. He was my absolute hero.

0:12:33 > 0:12:37Ore's hero was to play a huge part in the game,

0:12:37 > 0:12:41but it wasn't exactly what anyone had been hoping for.

0:12:41 > 0:12:44David Beckham got a red card.

0:12:44 > 0:12:46For the most stupid of kicks.

0:12:46 > 0:12:50And after that, England's dream sort of went up in tatters.

0:12:50 > 0:12:52The crucial moment came just after half time

0:12:52 > 0:12:56when David Beckham was sent off for retaliating after being fouled.

0:12:56 > 0:13:00England went on to lose the game on penalties.

0:13:00 > 0:13:01No change there, then.

0:13:01 > 0:13:05And most England fans took their anger out on Beckham.

0:13:06 > 0:13:09The midfielder has been branded a "stupid boy"

0:13:09 > 0:13:11who let down the rest of the England team.

0:13:11 > 0:13:15Everybody hated David Beckham, it was all over the papers,

0:13:15 > 0:13:18even in the playgrounds, people would be saying,

0:13:18 > 0:13:20"I can't believe he got red-carded."

0:13:20 > 0:13:22But Beckham wasn't down for long.

0:13:22 > 0:13:26Despite his World Cup misery, he bounced back the very next year

0:13:26 > 0:13:30with an amazing trophy-winning feat for his club.

0:13:30 > 0:13:33He went on to have another great season for Man United,

0:13:33 > 0:13:35and then they went on to win the treble.

0:13:35 > 0:13:36And after a glittering career,

0:13:36 > 0:13:41David Beckham is now known as one of the world's biggest sporting icons.

0:13:41 > 0:13:45I think he very much had the last laugh.

0:13:45 > 0:13:49In 2004, Christmas time for Conor was interrupted by the news

0:13:49 > 0:13:53of a terrible natural disaster far from home.

0:13:54 > 0:13:58More than 8,500 people have been killed in southern Asia

0:13:58 > 0:13:59after an undersea earthquake

0:13:59 > 0:14:03sent enormous waves rolling across the Indian Ocean.

0:14:03 > 0:14:05The big news story when I was 12

0:14:05 > 0:14:09was the tsunami hitting Thailand on Boxing Day.

0:14:09 > 0:14:12A tsunami is a giant wave,

0:14:12 > 0:14:17and this one caused devastation everywhere it hit.

0:14:17 > 0:14:20- TRANSLATION:- After the earthquake, we were sitting at home,

0:14:20 > 0:14:22and suddenly a big wave came.

0:14:22 > 0:14:26It was so big that people near the sea had no chance of survival.

0:14:26 > 0:14:29I saw kind of pictures, and I saw different videos of it.

0:14:29 > 0:14:32It was kind of one of the most crazy things I'd ever seen.

0:14:32 > 0:14:34I'd never obviously seen...

0:14:34 > 0:14:38I didn't know waves could be that towering and big.

0:14:38 > 0:14:40It makes you more aware of that kind of thing,

0:14:40 > 0:14:42and you see the damage it caused.

0:14:42 > 0:14:45That'll probably never leave my head.

0:14:45 > 0:14:50Over 200,000 lives were eventually lost,

0:14:50 > 0:14:53and thousands of homes were destroyed by the tsunami.

0:14:53 > 0:14:58Here in the UK, people were quick to do whatever they could to help.

0:14:58 > 0:15:02I remember my school ran a little fundraising thing for them.

0:15:02 > 0:15:05We did a whole bunch of things to, kind of, raise money.

0:15:05 > 0:15:09Conor's school wasn't the only one to raise money for tsunami victims.

0:15:09 > 0:15:13The Disasters Emergency Committee, co-ordinating the fundraising,

0:15:13 > 0:15:15says that at one point it was receiving donations

0:15:15 > 0:15:17at a rate of £15,000 a minute.

0:15:17 > 0:15:21Nearly £400 million was donated throughout the country

0:15:21 > 0:15:25to help those affected rebuild their lives.

0:15:25 > 0:15:28A tsunami early warning system has also been developed,

0:15:28 > 0:15:31which should help the area be better prepared

0:15:31 > 0:15:34if it were to ever happen again.

0:15:34 > 0:15:3920 years earlier, and Debra was also exposed to a natural disaster

0:15:39 > 0:15:40with an awful human cost.

0:15:40 > 0:15:43The news story of that time that stands out the most to me,

0:15:43 > 0:15:49and that I think was most important to my age group at the time

0:15:49 > 0:15:53was the Michael Buerk coverage of the famine in Ethiopia.

0:15:53 > 0:15:55It'll be nearly a year

0:15:55 > 0:15:58before Ethiopians can expect proper rains again.

0:15:58 > 0:16:03By that time, thousands of people, perhaps even millions of people,

0:16:03 > 0:16:04may have died.

0:16:04 > 0:16:08The widespread famine in the African country of Ethiopia

0:16:08 > 0:16:11lasted from 1983 to 1985.

0:16:11 > 0:16:13It was caused by a long-lasting drought

0:16:13 > 0:16:17which meant it was almost impossible to grow any food.

0:16:17 > 0:16:21As a result, around one million people lost their lives.

0:16:23 > 0:16:28It was absolutely shocking, the pictures were horrendous.

0:16:28 > 0:16:31And I will never forget them.

0:16:31 > 0:16:33Michael Buerk's report was so powerful

0:16:33 > 0:16:35that people who watched it in the UK were shocked

0:16:35 > 0:16:41at the suffering they saw, and were determined to do something to help.

0:16:41 > 0:16:44It was something we talked about a lot at school, in assemblies,

0:16:44 > 0:16:46and everyone wanted to do something about it.

0:16:46 > 0:16:48And of course, Bob Geldof did.

0:16:48 > 0:16:52When Bob Geldof saw the TV pictures from Ethiopia,

0:16:52 > 0:16:55he decided he had to do something.

0:16:55 > 0:16:57And his rock music friends felt the same.

0:16:57 > 0:17:01Bob Geldof was the lead singer of a band called the Boomtown Rats.

0:17:01 > 0:17:02He came up with the idea

0:17:02 > 0:17:05of gathering the biggest pop stars of the Eighties

0:17:05 > 0:17:09to record a charity single for the Ethiopian famine.

0:17:09 > 0:17:11One thing is sure, all the money will go on aid,

0:17:11 > 0:17:14and all the aid will go to dying people.

0:17:14 > 0:17:17# Feed the world... #

0:17:17 > 0:17:19They called themselves Band Aid,

0:17:19 > 0:17:22and their song, Do They Know It's Christmas,

0:17:22 > 0:17:25became the Christmas Number One that year.

0:17:25 > 0:17:30# Let them know it's Christmas time... #

0:17:30 > 0:17:34The song raised over £8 million for Ethiopia.

0:17:34 > 0:17:37Band Aid has become another inspiration

0:17:37 > 0:17:39for charity efforts like Comic Relief,

0:17:39 > 0:17:42which still raises money to help improve life for people in Africa.

0:17:42 > 0:17:45# Let them know it's Christmas time... #

0:17:46 > 0:17:49Still to come, we ask the all-important question:

0:17:49 > 0:17:53What would our celebs do if they were 12 again?

0:17:53 > 0:17:56I would say do everything you can while you can.

0:17:56 > 0:17:59This is the last bit of your childhood, really.

0:17:59 > 0:18:02And you've just got to make the most of it.

0:18:02 > 0:18:04I remember when I was 12, all the girls and all the guys,

0:18:04 > 0:18:07when we were younger, everyone wanted to be older.

0:18:07 > 0:18:10Everyone was like, "I wish I was older." Don't!

0:18:10 > 0:18:14Before that, it's time to take two minutes with the Scissor Sisters.

0:18:14 > 0:18:17# Baby come home to me

0:18:17 > 0:18:19# Baby come home to me

0:18:19 > 0:18:22# Its a half past quarter to three

0:18:22 > 0:18:25# Baby come home to me... #

0:18:25 > 0:18:29They formed in New York in the year 2000,

0:18:29 > 0:18:32and are now one of the world's most successful bands.

0:18:32 > 0:18:36But what were Jake Shears and Ana Matronic like when they were 12?

0:18:36 > 0:18:39# I got no doubt that you'll be just fine... #

0:18:39 > 0:18:43When I was 12, I was really, um...

0:18:43 > 0:18:45..chatty, super-talkative,

0:18:45 > 0:18:47I had a very, very weird, dark sense of humour,

0:18:47 > 0:18:49kind of a weird kid.

0:18:50 > 0:18:53I wasn't too dissimilar from what I am now,

0:18:53 > 0:18:56just a big, loudmouth, know-it-all weirdo.

0:18:56 > 0:18:59# Wake up in the morning... #

0:18:59 > 0:19:01Loudmouth, know-it-all weirdo, fair enough.

0:19:01 > 0:19:06But the question is this - were you both such snappy dressers back then?

0:19:06 > 0:19:09I really wanted to wear suits, so I was in kind of, pinkish,

0:19:09 > 0:19:13I liked pink button-up shirts, I had pink glasses...

0:19:13 > 0:19:15Um... You know, comb-over hair.

0:19:15 > 0:19:19I wanted to carry a briefcase to school instead of a backpack.

0:19:19 > 0:19:22- SHE LAUGHS - That's amazing!

0:19:23 > 0:19:26I liked wearing lots of black.

0:19:26 > 0:19:31And very clearly remember lots of band t-shirts.

0:19:31 > 0:19:36# But I don't feel like dancin' when the old joanna plays

0:19:36 > 0:19:38# My heart could take a chance... #

0:19:38 > 0:19:41Since starting the band, they've scored two Number One albums.

0:19:41 > 0:19:45But what did they listen to themselves when they were kids?

0:19:45 > 0:19:49I remember aged 12, I was super into the Beastie Boys.

0:19:49 > 0:19:52# You gotta fight

0:19:52 > 0:19:53# For your right

0:19:53 > 0:19:56# To party... #

0:19:56 > 0:19:59Love the Beastie Boys.

0:19:59 > 0:20:02I mean, I've been listening to that stuff since then.

0:20:02 > 0:20:05And what was on Jake's stereo back then?

0:20:05 > 0:20:07I was just listening to David Bowie.

0:20:07 > 0:20:09# Let's dance

0:20:09 > 0:20:14# Put on your red shoes and dance the blues. #

0:20:14 > 0:20:17I liked things that were like a little bit out of my...

0:20:17 > 0:20:20a LOT out of my grasp, that I didn't necessarily understand yet

0:20:20 > 0:20:22and when I think about records

0:20:22 > 0:20:25like Let's Dance, I just think about that time.

0:20:25 > 0:20:28Apart from the Beasties and Bowie,

0:20:28 > 0:20:32what else do The Scissor Sisters remember about being 12?

0:20:32 > 0:20:35The best thing about being 12 is just feeding your curiosity.

0:20:35 > 0:20:39It's a time when your boundaries are expanding, aren't they?

0:20:39 > 0:20:41So it's a really exciting time. I guess

0:20:41 > 0:20:44I'd say to all those 12-year-olds out there,

0:20:44 > 0:20:46- just get into what you're into.- Mmm.

0:20:46 > 0:20:49And don't worry about what anybody else thinks about it.

0:20:49 > 0:20:53Sage advice, Ana. Right, back to business.

0:20:53 > 0:20:57Let's find out what Conor, Debra and Ore were watching

0:20:57 > 0:20:59when they were kids.

0:20:59 > 0:21:01# You're the only one... #

0:21:01 > 0:21:03When I was 12, the massive TV show

0:21:03 > 0:21:04that started in that year was X Factor.

0:21:06 > 0:21:09- # So take a look at me now. # - That's right.

0:21:09 > 0:21:14It may be the biggest show on TV now but back when Conor was 12,

0:21:14 > 0:21:16the X Factor was brand new.

0:21:16 > 0:21:19I remember the winner, Steve Brookstein. I think I was actually

0:21:19 > 0:21:22rooting for him, I did want him to win

0:21:22 > 0:21:24so I was happy to see that happen.

0:21:24 > 0:21:27- Steve! - CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:21:29 > 0:21:31It was the first one, so everyone was talking about it.

0:21:31 > 0:21:33It was a big talking point at school

0:21:33 > 0:21:36so if you missed it, you were out of the loop for a whole week.

0:21:36 > 0:21:38You had to wait till the next week to have friends again!

0:21:38 > 0:21:41It may have been the first ever X Factor

0:21:41 > 0:21:46but it certainly wasn't the first ever big singing competition on TV.

0:21:46 > 0:21:49Before the X Factor, there was a show called Pop Idol

0:21:49 > 0:21:52which gave us Will Young, Gareth Gates

0:21:52 > 0:21:54and even our very own Sam and Mark.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58Oh, look at them there. Gorgeous!

0:21:58 > 0:22:02And let's not forget Popstars: The Rivals from back in 2002.

0:22:02 > 0:22:04If it wasn't for that show,

0:22:04 > 0:22:09we wouldn't have the lovely Girls Aloud or even One True Voice.

0:22:09 > 0:22:12The less said about that the better, really. Oh.

0:22:12 > 0:22:16# As far as the eye can see

0:22:16 > 0:22:17# I'm faithful and true... #

0:22:17 > 0:22:20- OK, enough of that. - TUNE STOPS ABRUPTLY

0:22:20 > 0:22:24Let's find out what Debra was watching back in 1984.

0:22:24 > 0:22:26Saturday Superstore was the big thing.

0:22:28 > 0:22:31# Saturday morning Get down to the superstore

0:22:31 > 0:22:32# Superstore. #

0:22:32 > 0:22:36Saturday Superstore was must-see TV for kids in the mid-'80s.

0:22:37 > 0:22:40It was hosted by Radio One DJ Mike Read...

0:22:41 > 0:22:46- ..and Blue Peter presenter, Sarah Greene.- Now it's time for Pop Panel.

0:22:46 > 0:22:49There were so many different aspects of the show.

0:22:49 > 0:22:53You had phone-ins and competitions, you had bands on,

0:22:53 > 0:22:55people being interviewed. It was really exciting.

0:22:55 > 0:22:58Time for me to open the Saturday Superstore.

0:22:58 > 0:23:00Every Saturday, loads of celebs and popstars

0:23:00 > 0:23:02would drop in on the superstore.

0:23:02 > 0:23:06Janet Jackson's with us this morning. Rolf Harris.

0:23:06 > 0:23:08A big welcome to Roald Dahl.

0:23:08 > 0:23:11And one week they even managed to get Prime Minister of the time,

0:23:11 > 0:23:16Margaret Thatcher, to come in and answer some pretty tricky questions.

0:23:16 > 0:23:22- In the event of a nuclear war, where will you be?- My goodness me!

0:23:22 > 0:23:24But for 12-year-old Debra,

0:23:24 > 0:23:27it was a regular feature starring other kids

0:23:27 > 0:23:29that really made an impression.

0:23:29 > 0:23:31One of the things that I remember on there

0:23:31 > 0:23:35was Saturday Superstore Superstar competition

0:23:35 > 0:23:37which was a talent competition.

0:23:37 > 0:23:39I remember thinking, "Oh, I would love to go on there."

0:23:39 > 0:23:44# Baby, baby, I'm a crazy girl

0:23:44 > 0:23:48# Crazy lady in a crazy world. #

0:23:48 > 0:23:51Now, THAT's a pop song! But it was seeing kids appear

0:23:51 > 0:23:56on Saturday Superstore that was an inspiration for Debra.

0:23:56 > 0:23:59And it wasn't long before she was on TV herself performing

0:23:59 > 0:24:02an impression of Margaret Thatcher on a talent show.

0:24:03 > 0:24:07- Do you think you'll go on in showbusiness?- Oh...

0:24:07 > 0:24:11- IMITATES MARGARET THATCHER: - Quite right, Mr Monkhouse.

0:24:11 > 0:24:15I intend to go on, and on and on.

0:24:15 > 0:24:18APPLAUSE

0:24:19 > 0:24:21When Ore was a young lad,

0:24:21 > 0:24:26it was a much-loved TV institution which kept him up past his bedtime.

0:24:26 > 0:24:31I loved watching football on telly and what you always had to watch

0:24:31 > 0:24:35at the end of a week late on a Saturday was Match Of The Day.

0:24:35 > 0:24:38MUSIC: Match Of The Day Theme Tune

0:24:38 > 0:24:41Match Of The Day has been on TV now for almost 50 years.

0:24:41 > 0:24:45Back in 1998, just as it is today,

0:24:45 > 0:24:50it was THE programme to keep up with all the action in the Premiership.

0:24:50 > 0:24:53All of my friends were watching it, even though it was on at about 10:30

0:24:53 > 0:24:55so I'd be staying up, keeping my eyes open

0:24:55 > 0:24:57to make sure that I could make it

0:24:57 > 0:25:00from the start to the finish of Match Of The Day.

0:25:00 > 0:25:02Before Gary Lineker,

0:25:02 > 0:25:07it was presented by Des Lynam who was an absolute legend.

0:25:07 > 0:25:09The most vital eight days of the Premiership season remain.

0:25:09 > 0:25:13He was such a nice guy and he was obviously so knowledgeable.

0:25:13 > 0:25:15Zola, not the player he was last season.

0:25:15 > 0:25:18When you're thinking about Des Lynam, Gary Lineker,

0:25:18 > 0:25:20Mark Lawrenson, Alan Hansen,

0:25:20 > 0:25:24they were all like these gods of the football world.

0:25:24 > 0:25:29I remember watching it then thinking I wish I could one day meet them.

0:25:29 > 0:25:31Luckily for Ore, that dream came true.

0:25:31 > 0:25:34Hello, and welcome to Match Of The Day Kickabout.

0:25:34 > 0:25:36As presenter of Match Of The Day Kickabout,

0:25:36 > 0:25:39he regularly gets to hang out with Gary Lineker.

0:25:39 > 0:25:43Come on! Sorry, got a little bit overexcited there.

0:25:43 > 0:25:46I still feel like a 12-year-old child going up to Gary Lineker

0:25:46 > 0:25:47and going...

0:25:47 > 0:25:51- PANTS - "Hi, Gary! My name is Ore. Agh!"

0:25:51 > 0:25:53It was a bit like that the very first time I met him

0:25:53 > 0:25:56because he is, let's face it, a bit of a ledge.

0:25:56 > 0:25:59It might all be hanging out with football legends,

0:25:59 > 0:26:02storming the charts or making us laugh these days

0:26:02 > 0:26:06but what do our celebs best remember about being 12?

0:26:06 > 0:26:08The best thing about being 12 -

0:26:08 > 0:26:13you don't really have too many things to kind of worry about.

0:26:13 > 0:26:16You don't have exams and stuff, they come later and you're getting

0:26:16 > 0:26:19prepared for that at that point and you're just chilling.

0:26:19 > 0:26:20You know, making new friends.

0:26:20 > 0:26:23From nine in the morning to five o'clock at night,

0:26:23 > 0:26:25everything was with your mates.

0:26:25 > 0:26:29We had such a good laugh, we really had such a good laugh.

0:26:29 > 0:26:34The best thing about being 12 is the fact that you are still a kid

0:26:34 > 0:26:38and yet you're forming some kind of opinions

0:26:38 > 0:26:39and feeling a bit grown-up

0:26:39 > 0:26:42and you can enjoy feeling a bit grown-up.

0:26:42 > 0:26:44I remember when I was 12 and all the guys and girls,

0:26:44 > 0:26:47when we were younger, everybody wanted to be older.

0:26:47 > 0:26:51Everyone... "I wish I was older." Don't! Don't wish you were older!

0:26:51 > 0:26:53It's so cool being that young

0:26:53 > 0:26:59and having that kind of freedom to the still be able to mess around.

0:26:59 > 0:27:03If I was 12 again, I would say stop worrying about everything

0:27:03 > 0:27:04and try to enjoy it.

0:27:04 > 0:27:07This is the last bit of your childhood, really.

0:27:07 > 0:27:10And you've just got to make the most of it.

0:27:10 > 0:27:13Being yourself is a massive part of that age.

0:27:13 > 0:27:17A saying that I have is it's better to fail in originality

0:27:17 > 0:27:19than it is to succeed in imitation.

0:27:19 > 0:27:23I would say, don't worry about girls.

0:27:23 > 0:27:26There's no need to worry because, in time,

0:27:26 > 0:27:29you'll get to know all about them

0:27:29 > 0:27:32so I think I'd tell myself, just chill out.

0:27:32 > 0:27:34Don't be weird with girls.

0:27:36 > 0:27:38So what have we learned then?

0:27:38 > 0:27:42A career in the Merchant Navy isn't for the fainthearted.

0:27:42 > 0:27:46You could liken it to being in a mobile floating jail.

0:27:46 > 0:27:51Being an England fan was just as disappointing then as it is now.

0:27:51 > 0:27:53Come on!

0:27:53 > 0:27:54And if you're Prime Minister,

0:27:54 > 0:27:58you might want to avoid answering questions on kids' TV.

0:27:58 > 0:28:03- In the event of a nuclear war, where will you be?- Oh, my goodness me!

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