Episode 7

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04Coming up, three celebs become 12 again.

0:00:04 > 0:00:07Everybody's, "What are you wearing? You look ridiculous."

0:00:07 > 0:00:09I was not what you'd call a "little lady".

0:00:09 > 0:00:12It was very kind of... you know, just quiffy.

0:00:12 > 0:00:14Plus we catch up with the guys from Lawson

0:00:14 > 0:00:18to find out what they were like at 12.

0:00:18 > 0:00:20It's when you start getting interested in girls.

0:00:20 > 0:00:23- Yeah!- That first little phase. - "Look at that girl over there."

0:00:23 > 0:00:27Yeah, yeah! So do you want to find out more?

0:00:27 > 0:00:28Well,

0:00:28 > 0:00:31have you ever wondered what it would have been like being best mates

0:00:31 > 0:00:34with your favourite celebs when they were your age?

0:00:34 > 0:00:37What did they get up to?

0:00:37 > 0:00:39What were their favourite songs?

0:00:39 > 0:00:41And what TV shows did they watch?

0:00:41 > 0:00:44Because despite the glamorous lifestyles they now lead,

0:00:44 > 0:00:48once they were a kid, with their dream, just like you.

0:00:48 > 0:00:52This show lets you look back in time with your favourite celebs

0:00:52 > 0:00:55as they become 12 Again.

0:01:01 > 0:01:03She's one of CBBC's favourite actresses

0:01:03 > 0:01:05who you'll find in Hotel Trubble...

0:01:05 > 0:01:07Hello, Hotel Trubble.

0:01:07 > 0:01:10..and the almighty Horrible Histories.

0:01:10 > 0:01:15But back in 1998, Dominique Moore's history was not quite horrible.

0:01:15 > 0:01:17I was very driven, very fearless

0:01:17 > 0:01:20and kind of had my own little way of doing things.

0:01:20 > 0:01:25Sometimes I'd get into trouble and sometimes it would work in my favour.

0:01:25 > 0:01:27# You'll never get this dance tonight! #

0:01:27 > 0:01:30He's the super-cool front man the Lostprophets,

0:01:30 > 0:01:34who have had such massive hits as Last Train Home...

0:01:34 > 0:01:37# But we sing if we're going nowhere... #

0:01:37 > 0:01:39..and Rooftops.

0:01:39 > 0:01:42# Standing on the rooftops everybody scream your heart out! #

0:01:44 > 0:01:49But back in 1989, Ian Watkins was more nerd than rock hero.

0:01:49 > 0:01:51I was big into Games Workshop.

0:01:51 > 0:01:55Painted models and, yeah, computer games.

0:01:55 > 0:01:56I've always been a geek.

0:01:56 > 0:01:58I suppose as far as I can remember.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01She's the star of Rip-Off Britain

0:02:01 > 0:02:03and has been on our TV sets since 1966,

0:02:03 > 0:02:07and has even presented Top Gear, but not as you know it.

0:02:07 > 0:02:10A lot of cars these days are fitted with anti-theft devices.

0:02:10 > 0:02:13You have either a lock-on steering wheel or a buzzer...

0:02:13 > 0:02:18But back in 1966, Angela Rippon was learning some valuable life lessons.

0:02:18 > 0:02:21I grew up with the kind of family background

0:02:21 > 0:02:25which basically said, "Go for it. Do it."

0:02:25 > 0:02:27Let's do it then! We all know who they are now,

0:02:27 > 0:02:31but what were they like back when they were still in their school uniforms?

0:02:31 > 0:02:34Let's go back and meet their 12-year-old selves.

0:02:34 > 0:02:37I was...very ambitious.

0:02:37 > 0:02:39SHE LAUGHS

0:02:39 > 0:02:42All my family agrees that I was the tomboy in the family.

0:02:42 > 0:02:46I was not really what you'd call a "little lady". SHE LAUGHS

0:02:46 > 0:02:49My hair was, like, a fully '80s quiff.

0:02:49 > 0:02:53It was very kind of... yeah, just quiffy.

0:02:53 > 0:02:55I always had my hair cut very, very short,

0:02:55 > 0:02:57so I could get up in the morning,

0:02:57 > 0:03:00get ready for school and just kind of do that and it was fine.

0:03:00 > 0:03:02It doesn't do that now!

0:03:02 > 0:03:05I used to make my own clothes.

0:03:05 > 0:03:09I had these denim flares and I painted down one side,

0:03:09 > 0:03:12like, "Soulful", or something, in bright yellow paint.

0:03:12 > 0:03:15Clothes like baggy jeans,

0:03:15 > 0:03:16like skateboard T-shirts.

0:03:16 > 0:03:20I totally wanted to be like a kid growing up in an American suburb,

0:03:20 > 0:03:21skateboarding.

0:03:21 > 0:03:24Everybody's, "What are you wearing?

0:03:24 > 0:03:25"You look ridiculous."

0:03:25 > 0:03:27I was, "No, this is style."

0:03:27 > 0:03:29"This is fashion."

0:03:29 > 0:03:31I thought I was a trend-setter.

0:03:31 > 0:03:34Now I realise I just looked really silly.

0:03:34 > 0:03:36SHE LAUGHS

0:03:36 > 0:03:39So apart from being trend-setters in their own...unique way,

0:03:39 > 0:03:42what else was going on in our three celebs' lives back then?

0:03:42 > 0:03:45I always loved music. You know, fully loved it.

0:03:45 > 0:03:49You know, I used to, like, record the countdown,

0:03:49 > 0:03:51the charts, and then pause it.

0:03:51 > 0:03:55But I'd also, like, have two tape decks and do mixes together.

0:03:55 > 0:03:58I'd record a little bit of a song and put another song next to it.

0:03:58 > 0:04:02I was always intrigued by the way things were created,

0:04:02 > 0:04:04um... you know, just musically.

0:04:06 > 0:04:08Whilst Ian was being a tape deck DJ,

0:04:08 > 0:04:11in the 1950s, Britain was recovering from World War Two,

0:04:11 > 0:04:13and, in Plymouth, along with many others,

0:04:13 > 0:04:16Angela's family had found themselves without a home

0:04:16 > 0:04:17and living with relatives.

0:04:17 > 0:04:20They'd bombed the whole of the city of Plymouth.

0:04:20 > 0:04:24A lot of housing was destroyed, shops, businesses, everything went.

0:04:24 > 0:04:26But the population needed to be housed,

0:04:26 > 0:04:31and one of the easy ways was this wonderful thing called the prefab,

0:04:31 > 0:04:33a prefabricated building.

0:04:35 > 0:04:38And estates of these sprang up all over the country

0:04:38 > 0:04:40because they were quick, easy and cheap.

0:04:40 > 0:04:42Prefabricated houses

0:04:42 > 0:04:46were homes that were delivered in large pieces

0:04:46 > 0:04:49and put together a bit like a giant jigsaw you could live in.

0:04:49 > 0:04:53They were meant to be a temporary solution while more permanent houses were built,

0:04:53 > 0:05:00but many people loved them so much, there's still some around today.

0:05:00 > 0:05:02I have to tell you, it was wonderful,

0:05:02 > 0:05:06because I'd been living with my grandparents up until then.

0:05:06 > 0:05:08We had an outside toilet at the bottom of the garden.

0:05:08 > 0:05:13There was no bathroom in the house, so we had to go to the public baths once a week for a bath.

0:05:13 > 0:05:17And suddenly my parents were offered this prefab on an estate,

0:05:17 > 0:05:19which had a fully fitted bathroom.

0:05:19 > 0:05:23The kitchen was fully fitted.

0:05:23 > 0:05:26It was luxury beyond imagination.

0:05:32 > 0:05:34So whilst Angela was enjoying her brand new prefab,

0:05:34 > 0:05:38back in London, Dominique was getting the dreaded school report.

0:05:38 > 0:05:41I was a bit of a clown at school.

0:05:41 > 0:05:42I was always talking in class.

0:05:42 > 0:05:46I was always distracting other people in class,

0:05:46 > 0:05:48because I got bored really easily.

0:05:48 > 0:05:51I went back and found my old school report when I was 12,

0:05:51 > 0:05:53and apparently I was very talkative.

0:05:53 > 0:05:55Um...

0:05:55 > 0:05:57"Needs to maintain a higher level of concentration."

0:05:58 > 0:06:02"Dominique started off being one of my top scientists..."

0:06:02 > 0:06:03SHE GIGGLES

0:06:03 > 0:06:04It's my ballet one.

0:06:04 > 0:06:09"She has a difficult body for ballet, but manages to work through it."

0:06:09 > 0:06:12"She has her own way of doing things."

0:06:12 > 0:06:14"It took me months to convince her

0:06:14 > 0:06:17"that I knew what I was talking about." SHE LAUGHS

0:06:17 > 0:06:20I'm really sorry to all of the teachers

0:06:20 > 0:06:23who've ever had to put up with me and this.

0:06:23 > 0:06:26I apologise for my 12-year-old self.

0:06:26 > 0:06:28And so you should!

0:06:28 > 0:06:31So, if we can get Dominique to stop being naughty for two minutes,

0:06:31 > 0:06:34let's see what our celebs were listening to.

0:06:34 > 0:06:36When I was 12, the music I was listening to,

0:06:36 > 0:06:39strangely, looking back, was a lot of hip hop stuff.

0:06:39 > 0:06:41# Whoo! Yeah! #

0:06:41 > 0:06:44The first record I ever bought with my own pocket money

0:06:44 > 0:06:45was Neneh Cherry.

0:06:45 > 0:06:46# DJ! #

0:06:46 > 0:06:48Raw Like Sushi.

0:06:48 > 0:06:52# No moneyman can win my love

0:06:52 > 0:06:57# It's sweetness that I'm thinking of... #

0:06:57 > 0:06:59Which then led me on to stuff like Bomb The Bass.

0:06:59 > 0:07:00Keep the frequency clear.

0:07:02 > 0:07:03It sounds really cool now.

0:07:03 > 0:07:06And if it sounds really cool now,

0:07:06 > 0:07:10back in the late '80s, it was absolutely groundbreaking.

0:07:14 > 0:07:17For a lot of people, this is the first dance music they'd ever heard.

0:07:17 > 0:07:21These early records featured loads of samples.

0:07:21 > 0:07:24# Get-Get-Get I get-I get down to the funky beat... #

0:07:24 > 0:07:27Which would be taken from old songs, radio broadcasts

0:07:27 > 0:07:29or...anything, really.

0:07:29 > 0:07:32All that early, like, sample tracks intrigued me.

0:07:32 > 0:07:36Like, I loved stuff like M/A/R/R/S Pump Up The Volume.

0:07:36 > 0:07:38# Pump up the volume Dance! Dance! #

0:07:40 > 0:07:44Pump Up The Volume became the first ever dance track

0:07:44 > 0:07:47to get to number one in the charts, in 1987.

0:07:49 > 0:07:53But there's one song that really makes Ian feel 12 again.

0:07:53 > 0:07:57# Tank fly boss walk jam nitty gritty You're listening to the boy

0:07:57 > 0:07:59# From the big bad city This is jam hot... #

0:07:59 > 0:08:01# This is jam hot... #

0:08:03 > 0:08:05Dub Be Good To Me,

0:08:05 > 0:08:07by Beats International,

0:08:07 > 0:08:09takes me back...like that.

0:08:09 > 0:08:11# Friends...

0:08:11 > 0:08:14# Tell me I am crazy... #

0:08:14 > 0:08:18As a kid, building, like, Games Workshop,

0:08:18 > 0:08:20Battle Terrain,

0:08:20 > 0:08:22with papier mache in my bedroom,

0:08:22 > 0:08:24sun coming through the windows...

0:08:24 > 0:08:26yeah, in my own world.

0:08:27 > 0:08:29So let's leave Ian with his Games Workshop

0:08:29 > 0:08:33and find out what was happening in Dominique's world of music in 1998.

0:08:33 > 0:08:35When I was 12,

0:08:35 > 0:08:40I did Annie, in the West End, and Jay-Z came to watch the show

0:08:40 > 0:08:42cos he had Hard Knock Life out at the time.

0:08:42 > 0:08:44# From standin' on the corners boppin'

0:08:44 > 0:08:47# To drivin' some of the hottest cars New York has ever seen... #

0:08:47 > 0:08:49Just in case you didn't know,

0:08:49 > 0:08:52Hard Knock Life is a song from the musical Annie, that Jay-Z sampled.

0:08:52 > 0:08:55And this song was HUGE!

0:08:55 > 0:08:58# It's the hard knock life for us... #

0:08:58 > 0:09:00But what was a rap megastar

0:09:00 > 0:09:03doing watching Dominique perform at a theatre?

0:09:03 > 0:09:06He wanted us to go on to Top Of The Pops and perform with him.

0:09:06 > 0:09:08That is amazing.

0:09:08 > 0:09:11Being handpicked by hip-hop legend Jay-Z

0:09:11 > 0:09:15to perform on TV must have been the best thing EVER.

0:09:15 > 0:09:20The day before, they said, "We're really sorry, you won't be able to go on Top Of The Pops."

0:09:20 > 0:09:21MUSIC WINDS DOWN

0:09:21 > 0:09:23Oh.

0:09:23 > 0:09:27And we've got a "sorry" letter from Jay-Z, which is pretty cool.

0:09:27 > 0:09:28I suppose that's pretty cool,

0:09:28 > 0:09:31but to be honest I'd rather be on TV with Jay-Z.

0:09:31 > 0:09:35But you've got your letter, don't you, so...

0:09:35 > 0:09:36# It's a hard knock life... #

0:09:38 > 0:09:41So as Dominique was missing out on a starring role

0:09:41 > 0:09:43with hip-hop royalty of the '90s,

0:09:43 > 0:09:46Angela was listening to a very new kind of music in the '50s.

0:09:46 > 0:09:49Musically, I was much more aware

0:09:49 > 0:09:53of classical music than I was of pop music,

0:09:53 > 0:09:54as we would think of it today.

0:09:54 > 0:09:59Simply because that's what I was hearing all the time when I was at ballet class.

0:09:59 > 0:10:02The pianist played ballet music and we were dancing to Tchaikovsky.

0:10:02 > 0:10:05But whilst Angela was doing pirouettes to classical music,

0:10:05 > 0:10:08a huge musical movement was just beginning,

0:10:08 > 0:10:14and about to change and influence music as we know it for ever.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16Suddenly, there was rock'n'roll.

0:10:16 > 0:10:17# Get your glad rags on... #

0:10:17 > 0:10:20The advent of Bill Haley and the Comets

0:10:20 > 0:10:23and those American rock'n'roll bands,

0:10:23 > 0:10:27I think was really quite important for a lot of people of my age

0:10:27 > 0:10:30around the 1956, 1957 era.

0:10:30 > 0:10:32You're not kidding, Angela!

0:10:32 > 0:10:35There were loads of rock'n'roll stars

0:10:35 > 0:10:37like Bill Haley and Eddie Cochrane,

0:10:37 > 0:10:39who helped create rock music as we know it today.

0:10:39 > 0:10:43# ..Then your sister will Whoo! C'mon, everybody! #"

0:10:43 > 0:10:45Kids finally could sit down, clap

0:10:45 > 0:10:48and chew gum along to their favourite hits.

0:10:48 > 0:10:52Well, everyone apart from that kid there. What's he playing at?

0:10:52 > 0:10:53# Lay off of them shoes

0:10:53 > 0:10:55# And don't you step on my blue suede shoes... #

0:10:55 > 0:10:59But for Angela, it was all about the dancing.

0:10:59 > 0:11:03It was suddenly this physical freedom of expression to music,

0:11:03 > 0:11:05that was quite wild.

0:11:05 > 0:11:08I could actually do the twirls

0:11:08 > 0:11:10and the twists and the whole thing.

0:11:10 > 0:11:11It was fantastic!

0:11:11 > 0:11:13I...loved it.

0:11:13 > 0:11:15Still to come,

0:11:15 > 0:11:18we catch up super-catchy pop band, Lawson,

0:11:18 > 0:11:21and find out what they got up to when they were 12.

0:11:21 > 0:11:25- I just cried my eyes out. - You cried?- Yeah, I cried, yeah.

0:11:25 > 0:11:28And we find out what TV shows had our celebs glues to the telly box.

0:11:28 > 0:11:31Thinking about it now, it kills me.

0:11:31 > 0:11:33I was like, "See, Mum, it's real!"

0:11:33 > 0:11:36Brilliant, brilliant television.

0:11:36 > 0:11:39But first let's see what big news stories

0:11:39 > 0:11:43had an impact on our celebrities when they were kids.

0:11:43 > 0:11:47One of the big news stories when I was 12 was the Strangeways riot.

0:11:49 > 0:11:52The headlines this evening: prisoners riot at a Manchester jail.

0:11:52 > 0:11:54A hundred protest on the roof.

0:11:54 > 0:11:57Others take over the main cell block.

0:11:58 > 0:12:00Strangeways Prison was originally built

0:12:00 > 0:12:02to house just over 1,000 prisoners,

0:12:02 > 0:12:07but in 1990, around 1,600 inmates had been locked up.

0:12:07 > 0:12:10Prisoners weren't getting enough exercise,

0:12:10 > 0:12:11cells had become overcrowded,

0:12:11 > 0:12:15and often had buckets instead of toilets.

0:12:17 > 0:12:20To protest, the prisoners started rioting

0:12:20 > 0:12:23and then worked their way onto the roof of the prison.

0:12:23 > 0:12:26I always remember the images of all the prisoners on the roof

0:12:26 > 0:12:29complaining about the conditions

0:12:29 > 0:12:30and holding up banners.

0:12:32 > 0:12:35Finally, after 25 days, the siege came to an end.

0:12:35 > 0:12:38..insurrection at Strangeways jail in Manchester,

0:12:38 > 0:12:42by far the longest prison siege on record.

0:12:42 > 0:12:44The prison had been damaged so badly,

0:12:44 > 0:12:47it cost £55 million to rebuild.

0:12:47 > 0:12:50As the riots left two men dead and 194 injured,

0:12:50 > 0:12:53a public inquiry was held,

0:12:53 > 0:12:56that decided that conditions in the prison had been terrible.

0:12:56 > 0:12:59This then led to a major reform of the prison system

0:12:59 > 0:13:02and living conditions for prisoners were improved.

0:13:05 > 0:13:07I always watched Newsround when I got home from school.

0:13:07 > 0:13:10One of the stories I remember from when I was 12

0:13:10 > 0:13:12was the Good Friday Agreement,

0:13:12 > 0:13:17and that was put in place to resolve all of the tension and disputes

0:13:17 > 0:13:20between Britain, Ireland and Northern Ireland.

0:13:20 > 0:13:23For over 30 years there had been violent clashes

0:13:23 > 0:13:25between Protestant and Catholic communities,

0:13:25 > 0:13:28who had different beliefs over whether Northern Ireland

0:13:28 > 0:13:31should belong to the UK or the Republic of Ireland.

0:13:31 > 0:13:34The process to get all political parties to come together

0:13:34 > 0:13:38in agreement was not an easy task and took a long time to happen.

0:13:38 > 0:13:41Reports of hope, optimism, then stalemate, even failure,

0:13:41 > 0:13:43and then back to breakthrough.

0:13:43 > 0:13:47No-one yet knows if it will be deal of deadlock.

0:13:47 > 0:13:50I do remember this story because it was a positive one

0:13:50 > 0:13:55and it was about bringing an end to all of the terrorism.

0:13:55 > 0:13:57Finally, in April 1998,

0:13:57 > 0:14:00Northern Ireland seemed to have peace at last.

0:14:00 > 0:14:02- TONY BLAIR: - Doing what we have done today,

0:14:02 > 0:14:05we have carried out what I believe to be the will

0:14:05 > 0:14:08of the overwhelming majority of people here in Northern Ireland.

0:14:09 > 0:14:11The chance to live in peace.

0:14:11 > 0:14:15The chance to raise children out of the shadow of fear.

0:14:17 > 0:14:21But not everyone was happy that an agreement had been made.

0:14:26 > 0:14:29Good evening. As many as 12 people are thought to have been killed

0:14:29 > 0:14:33in a serious bomb attack at Omagh in Northern Ireland.

0:14:33 > 0:14:36A group called the Real IRA carried out the attack.

0:14:36 > 0:14:39They believed Ireland should be one country

0:14:39 > 0:14:41and opposed the Good Friday Agreement.

0:14:41 > 0:14:4329 people died in the attack.

0:14:43 > 0:14:47By the time the rain began falling on Omagh this morning,

0:14:47 > 0:14:50the scale of the tragedy was apparent.

0:14:50 > 0:14:54Due to the bombing and other political problems, the Good Friday Agreement was put on hold

0:14:54 > 0:14:55until 2007,

0:14:55 > 0:14:59when the Northern Ireland Assembly began to work together again.

0:14:59 > 0:15:03The restoration of political institutions

0:15:03 > 0:15:07marks the beginning of a new era of politics on this island.

0:15:07 > 0:15:11This is a binding resolution.

0:15:11 > 0:15:14Today, all political parties are working together

0:15:14 > 0:15:17to make the country a peaceful place for everyone.

0:15:20 > 0:15:23The big story was

0:15:23 > 0:15:28the huge fight that black people in America were having

0:15:28 > 0:15:31for basic human rights and equality.

0:15:33 > 0:15:35In some parts of America,

0:15:35 > 0:15:38when Angela was a kid, black people were seen as second-class citizens

0:15:38 > 0:15:41and suffered terrible discrimination.

0:15:41 > 0:15:44They were separated from white people in many areas

0:15:44 > 0:15:49and life was made very, very hard for them.

0:15:49 > 0:15:51The Ku Klux Klan were out in force.

0:15:51 > 0:15:52The white supremacists

0:15:52 > 0:15:55were battling against people who believed

0:15:55 > 0:15:57in humanity!

0:15:57 > 0:16:00The Ku Klux Klan were an organisation in America

0:16:00 > 0:16:04who believed only white people should live in the USA.

0:16:04 > 0:16:06They wore white robes and masks

0:16:06 > 0:16:09and often brutally attacked and terrorised black communities.

0:16:09 > 0:16:14But the actions of one woman were about to have a massive effect on an entire nation.

0:16:14 > 0:16:18I distinctly remember Rosa Parks,

0:16:18 > 0:16:24that incredibly brave American black woman, who decided enough was enough.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26It had a huge impression on me.

0:16:26 > 0:16:28In Montgomery, Alabama,

0:16:28 > 0:16:32Rosa Parks was arrested when she refused to give up her seat on a bus

0:16:32 > 0:16:36to let a white passenger sit down, which was against the law.

0:16:36 > 0:16:38As a result of her arrest,

0:16:38 > 0:16:40most of Montgomery's 40,000 black workers

0:16:40 > 0:16:43refused to ride the bus to work.

0:16:43 > 0:16:45The buses became almost empty.

0:16:45 > 0:16:49The protest went on for 381 days

0:16:49 > 0:16:53and their actions forced the bus companies to stop segregation on their buses.

0:16:53 > 0:16:55There was still segregation elsewhere,

0:16:55 > 0:16:59but it was a step towards equality and freedom for African Americans.

0:16:59 > 0:17:01As a 12-year-old,

0:17:01 > 0:17:04to have been brought up in a family where...

0:17:04 > 0:17:08colour and creed didn't matter, whose attitude was,

0:17:08 > 0:17:10let people get on with their lives.

0:17:10 > 0:17:12The actions of Rosa Parks

0:17:12 > 0:17:15turned her into a hero of the civil rights movement

0:17:15 > 0:17:19and she became an icon and an inspiration for thousands of people.

0:17:21 > 0:17:24Yeah, those stories stayed with me for the rest of my life.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30Still to come, we ask that all-important question -

0:17:30 > 0:17:32what would our celebs do if they were 12 again?

0:17:32 > 0:17:34Stop talking so much!

0:17:34 > 0:17:38Who I was at 12 has helped to shape me as the person that I am now.

0:17:38 > 0:17:41Looking back, 12 was amazing.

0:17:41 > 0:17:43But first we got two minutes to catch up

0:17:43 > 0:17:46with the super-cool boy band Lawson

0:17:46 > 0:17:49to find out they were like when they were kids.

0:17:49 > 0:17:50# Oooh...

0:17:50 > 0:17:53# Taking over me... #

0:17:56 > 0:17:58Lawson are not just a boy band,

0:17:58 > 0:18:00they play guitars and everything!

0:18:00 > 0:18:05But what did Andy, Ryan, Adam, and Joel get up to when they were 12?

0:18:05 > 0:18:07When I was 12 years old, I was...

0:18:07 > 0:18:09a little loner guy

0:18:09 > 0:18:13that used to hang around in the music room every dinner time and break time,

0:18:13 > 0:18:16and that's pretty much my life in school from start to finish.

0:18:16 > 0:18:17# My heart is racing

0:18:17 > 0:18:20# She puts her hands in mine #

0:18:20 > 0:18:22I'd just started to get braces and stuff,

0:18:22 > 0:18:26so I'd got this horrific brace that had, like, four big blocks like,

0:18:26 > 0:18:29so every time I talked I had a lisp

0:18:29 > 0:18:32- Joel has got a great smile, to be fair.- Smile, Joe?

0:18:32 > 0:18:33THEY LAUGH

0:18:34 > 0:18:37Oh, great smile... But what was school like?

0:18:37 > 0:18:41There were elements I enjoyed, which were break times and dinner times,

0:18:41 > 0:18:44and there were elements I hated, which were lessons.

0:18:44 > 0:18:46# Taking over me #

0:18:46 > 0:18:47I got sent out of history.

0:18:47 > 0:18:50I got sent out of most classes cos I was a loudmouth.

0:18:50 > 0:18:54I was standing outside the class and our headmaster, when he shouted,

0:18:54 > 0:18:56had that white bit that stuck to his lip and it stuck.

0:18:56 > 0:18:58- And coffee breath.- And he came up to me and just shouted

0:18:58 > 0:19:04about an inch away from my face. I was like... I just cried my eyes out. It was horrible.

0:19:04 > 0:19:07- You cried?- I cried, yeah. - Oooh!- I was only 12.

0:19:07 > 0:19:11We've all cried, brother, we've all cried.

0:19:11 > 0:19:13But what kind of music did you like?

0:19:13 > 0:19:16- Avril Lavigne, Complicated, or something. - I was going to say Avril Lavigne.

0:19:16 > 0:19:21# Tell me why'd you have to go make things so complicated?

0:19:21 > 0:19:25When I was 12, that was the time I bought my first ever album.

0:19:25 > 0:19:28And I bought a Limp Biscuit album.

0:19:28 > 0:19:31# Keep rollin' rollin' rollin... #

0:19:31 > 0:19:32# Rollin' rollin' rollin... #

0:19:32 > 0:19:35That literally reminds me of being 12

0:19:35 > 0:19:37playing air guitar on my sofa.

0:19:37 > 0:19:40Going, "I want to play that riff one day." And now I can.

0:19:40 > 0:19:42# Rollin' rollin' rollin'... #

0:19:43 > 0:19:46# When she was mine

0:19:46 > 0:19:48# Everything was easy #

0:19:48 > 0:19:51So for Lawson what was the most important thing about being 12?

0:19:51 > 0:19:53I'll give you a clue - it's girls.

0:19:53 > 0:19:56When you're 12 is when you kind of start secondary school,

0:19:56 > 0:19:59- so...- It's when you start getting interested in girls. - I was going to say that!

0:19:59 > 0:20:02200 girls to meet.

0:20:02 > 0:20:05But you still don't want to talk to them, you know what I mean?

0:20:05 > 0:20:08You've not got your confidence yet.

0:20:08 > 0:20:11I've still not! It's a nightmare.

0:20:11 > 0:20:15Obviously confidence with girls is not a problem for me. I'm, er super-smooth.

0:20:15 > 0:20:18Just got to send a text my girlfriend. "You're dumped. LOL."

0:20:18 > 0:20:20Send...

0:20:21 > 0:20:24Right, moving on. Time to get back to our three celebs

0:20:24 > 0:20:28and find out what Dominique, Ian and Angela were watching when they were 12.

0:20:29 > 0:20:31I loved cartoons. I still do.

0:20:31 > 0:20:33Like Dogtanian.

0:20:33 > 0:20:34Belle and Sebastian.

0:20:34 > 0:20:35Voltron.

0:20:35 > 0:20:37The Weird Warriors.

0:20:37 > 0:20:38Battle of the Planets.

0:20:38 > 0:20:40Dungeons and Dragons, the cartoon.

0:20:40 > 0:20:43He-Man was another one. It's all coming back.

0:20:43 > 0:20:45OK, we get it - you like cartoons!

0:20:45 > 0:20:47Oh, there's more!

0:20:47 > 0:20:48Ulysses.

0:20:48 > 0:20:50Was it Ulysses 2032?

0:20:50 > 0:20:54Actually it was Ulysses 31, but never mind. Any more?

0:20:54 > 0:20:55HE HUMS

0:20:55 > 0:21:00# Wishing we could find the cities of gold #

0:21:00 > 0:21:02Yeah, that's quite enough of that.

0:21:02 > 0:21:06Ian's obsession with watching TV didn't stop with cartoons.

0:21:06 > 0:21:10Along with his best mate and lead guitarist from the Lostprophets,

0:21:10 > 0:21:12they were glued to Saturday morning TV

0:21:12 > 0:21:15as one comedy duo entertained the nation.

0:21:17 > 0:21:19Lee and I were obsessed with Trevor and Simon.

0:21:19 > 0:21:22Obsessed. We watched them religiously.

0:21:24 > 0:21:27Trevor and Simon started out on Going Live.

0:21:27 > 0:21:28Hello!

0:21:28 > 0:21:32And became comedy legends for thousands of kids across the country.

0:21:32 > 0:21:33Blimey, that's good!

0:21:33 > 0:21:38And the fact that they cracked up Sarah Greene and Philip Schofield

0:21:38 > 0:21:39all the time.

0:21:39 > 0:21:41We found out that, um...

0:21:41 > 0:21:45They came up with different characters every week.

0:21:45 > 0:21:46Mostly it was the Swing Your Pants one.

0:21:46 > 0:21:48- Join in, swing your pants.- Join in!

0:21:48 > 0:21:52# Too many broken hearts in the world

0:21:52 > 0:21:56# There are too many la la la la la la #

0:21:56 > 0:21:59Lee called me up on a Saturday morning saying,

0:21:59 > 0:22:02"You need to watch Going Live right now."

0:22:02 > 0:22:03"They've got new characters.

0:22:03 > 0:22:05Mick McMax, the man with the mix.

0:22:07 > 0:22:08And Moon Monkey.

0:22:08 > 0:22:10Make some noise, kids!

0:22:10 > 0:22:12KIDS YELL

0:22:12 > 0:22:16I turned it on and it was Mick McMax, the man with the mix,

0:22:16 > 0:22:18who was a DJ, and Moon Monkey was his dancer.

0:22:18 > 0:22:20Kids, smell your cheese!

0:22:20 > 0:22:23Make some noise!

0:22:23 > 0:22:27In a head-to-toe, skin-tight, like, leotard.

0:22:27 > 0:22:29The only thing exposed was his face.

0:22:29 > 0:22:31Everything else was just green.

0:22:32 > 0:22:35Thinking about it now, it just kills me.

0:22:35 > 0:22:37It was just brilliant.

0:22:37 > 0:22:39YELLING AND GIBBERING

0:22:48 > 0:22:50Right let's fast forward to the mid '90s,

0:22:50 > 0:22:52and just before Dominique was 12

0:22:52 > 0:22:55there was one show that had a huge effect on her.

0:22:55 > 0:22:58I used to love the show called The Biz.

0:23:00 > 0:23:04The theme tune was, # If we want it bad enough there's nothing we won't do #

0:23:04 > 0:23:07- # The sky's the limit - We know it's tough

0:23:07 > 0:23:09# But it all depends on you #

0:23:09 > 0:23:12It was basically all these children who went to a theatre school.

0:23:12 > 0:23:16So for me, wanted to be an actress, I was glued.

0:23:16 > 0:23:20I've got an audition and I don't know what to say. I don't even know what to wear.

0:23:20 > 0:23:24"See, Mum, it's real! You can go to a school and study performing."

0:23:27 > 0:23:30- The show was full of over-the-top acting...- Rrrrraaahhhh!

0:23:30 > 0:23:31..and drama queens.

0:23:31 > 0:23:35I've got a big budget drama going on in there!

0:23:35 > 0:23:40But it did launch the career of Holby City star Paul Nichols

0:23:40 > 0:23:43and his ever so dreamy hair. Just make sure you don't touch it!

0:23:44 > 0:23:45I'm sorry...

0:23:45 > 0:23:48It's not your fault, he just doesn't like it ruffled.

0:23:48 > 0:23:51TV has a big influence on you when you're young, cos you think it's real.

0:23:51 > 0:23:57And Dominique was about to make it real, by auditioning for a real-life drama school.

0:23:57 > 0:23:59Dominique?

0:23:59 > 0:24:00- Hello.- Hiya, Dominique.

0:24:00 > 0:24:03And she had to do it in front of the entire nation

0:24:03 > 0:24:06on a TV documentary called Paddington Green.

0:24:06 > 0:24:09Didn't faze me. I had a film crew following me.

0:24:09 > 0:24:12I was just determined to do my best and get into the school.

0:24:12 > 0:24:16# There's a hero

0:24:16 > 0:24:20# If you look inside your heart #

0:24:20 > 0:24:22Did she get into drama school?

0:24:22 > 0:24:23YESSSS!

0:24:23 > 0:24:26I'll take that as a yes.

0:24:26 > 0:24:28Let's go back to the 1950s,

0:24:28 > 0:24:32where one TV show managed to thrill the entire nation.

0:24:32 > 0:24:36The Panorama film on spaghetti farming was just so funny.

0:24:36 > 0:24:38First of all you had the voice of Dimbleby.

0:24:38 > 0:24:40It isn't only in Britain

0:24:40 > 0:24:43that spring this year has taken everyone by surprise.

0:24:43 > 0:24:47The world trusted Dimbleby. If he said it, it was true.

0:24:47 > 0:24:50And they set it up so beautifully.

0:24:50 > 0:24:52The crops and the early spring,

0:24:52 > 0:24:55and then you see the spaghetti hanging off the trees.

0:24:55 > 0:24:59The last two weeks of March are an anxious time for the spaghetti farmer.

0:24:59 > 0:25:02There's always the chance of a late frost which,

0:25:02 > 0:25:06while not entirely ruining the crop, generally impairs the flavour.

0:25:06 > 0:25:08But I do remember sitting there thinking,

0:25:08 > 0:25:12"You don't grow spaghetti! I don't think that's quite right."

0:25:12 > 0:25:14SHE CHUCKLES

0:25:14 > 0:25:17Of course it's not. It was in fact an April Fool's joke that

0:25:17 > 0:25:21super-serious BBC news programme Panorama played on Britain.

0:25:21 > 0:25:25'In the 1950s, spaghetti'

0:25:25 > 0:25:28was a very exotic, foreign dish.

0:25:28 > 0:25:31I don't think I'D eaten spaghetti.

0:25:31 > 0:25:33'So it was easy to pull the wool over your eyes

0:25:33 > 0:25:35'and pretend that it was grown on trees.'

0:25:35 > 0:25:38You wouldn't get away with that now.

0:25:38 > 0:25:40'Another reason why this may be a bumper year

0:25:40 > 0:25:44'lies in the virtual disappearance of the spaghetti weevil,

0:25:44 > 0:25:45'the tiny creature

0:25:45 > 0:25:48'whose depredations have caused much concern in the past.'

0:25:48 > 0:25:52This is one of the most notorious TV hoaxes ever.

0:25:52 > 0:25:57It was so convincing that hundreds of people called the BBC,

0:25:57 > 0:26:00asking where you could buy your own spaghetti tree.

0:26:00 > 0:26:04'And now, the harvest is marked by a traditional meal.

0:26:04 > 0:26:08'Toasts to the new crop are drunk in these boccalinos.'

0:26:08 > 0:26:09'Brilliant.'

0:26:09 > 0:26:12Brilliant, brilliant television.

0:26:12 > 0:26:14'For those who love this dish,

0:26:14 > 0:26:17'there's nothing like real, home-grown spaghetti.'

0:26:20 > 0:26:22So those are the TV memories of our three celebs.

0:26:22 > 0:26:26But what do they remember most about being 12?

0:26:26 > 0:26:28Looking back, 12 was amazing.

0:26:28 > 0:26:30Yeah.

0:26:30 > 0:26:34I don't really remember having any, or many bad times as a kid.

0:26:34 > 0:26:37When I think back, it's with fond memories, definitely.

0:26:37 > 0:26:42At 12, I was beginning to get the feeling

0:26:42 > 0:26:46as a human being, of what it is to be an individual,

0:26:46 > 0:26:49and take a responsibility for who you are and what you are in life.

0:26:49 > 0:26:52Best thing about being 12...

0:26:52 > 0:26:54that naivete,

0:26:54 > 0:26:56just living for the moment, you know.

0:26:56 > 0:27:01Before the weight of the world is really on your shoulders,

0:27:01 > 0:27:05before you understand the gravity of everything around.

0:27:05 > 0:27:10The best thing about being 12 was 110% getting into theatre school.

0:27:10 > 0:27:14Cos that's probably the one thing in my whole life

0:27:14 > 0:27:17that will affect what I do with the rest of my life,

0:27:17 > 0:27:20so it's the best thing that's EVER happened to me.

0:27:20 > 0:27:21SHE CHUCKLES

0:27:21 > 0:27:24If I could be 12 again,

0:27:24 > 0:27:27I don't know if there's anything I'd do differently, you know.

0:27:27 > 0:27:29Everything happens for a reason.

0:27:29 > 0:27:33Who I was at 12 is what's helped to shape me

0:27:33 > 0:27:35as the person that I am now

0:27:35 > 0:27:36in my 60s.

0:27:36 > 0:27:40If I could go back and speak to Dominique aged 12,

0:27:40 > 0:27:42I'd say, "I like that you're ambitious

0:27:42 > 0:27:46"and I like that you're driven and I like that you're very confident.

0:27:46 > 0:27:49"But stop talking so much!"

0:27:51 > 0:27:53So, what have we learned then?

0:27:53 > 0:27:57Funnily enough, drama set in drama schools can feature

0:27:57 > 0:27:59some very bad drama.

0:27:59 > 0:28:00Rarr!

0:28:00 > 0:28:01I'm sorry!

0:28:01 > 0:28:05I've got a big-budget drama going on in there!

0:28:05 > 0:28:08When listening to rock'n'roll, chew gum.

0:28:08 > 0:28:12And spaghetti definitely doesn't grow on trees.

0:28:12 > 0:28:15'There's nothing like real home-grown spaghetti.'

0:28:15 > 0:28:18I think.

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