0:00:01 > 0:00:03Coming up, our celebs become 12 Again.
0:00:03 > 0:00:05I was laughing so hard I sneezed,
0:00:05 > 0:00:08and this really large bogey came out of my nose.
0:00:08 > 0:00:10Because I kind of liked grungy music,
0:00:10 > 0:00:13people were a bit surprised, because I didn't dress like that at all.
0:00:13 > 0:00:16Some of the things I heard at 12 were,
0:00:16 > 0:00:18"Close those cab doors."
0:00:18 > 0:00:22And we catch up with Charlie from Lonsdale Boys Club to find
0:00:22 > 0:00:24out what he was like at 12.
0:00:24 > 0:00:28I'd go over to the girls and be like, "Boys, this is how we do it."
0:00:28 > 0:00:31Want to find out more? Well...
0:00:31 > 0:00:34Have you ever wondered what it would have been like to be best mates
0:00:34 > 0:00:39with your favourite celebs when they were your age?
0:00:39 > 0:00:42What did they get up to? What were their favourite songs?
0:00:42 > 0:00:44And what TV shows did they watch?
0:00:44 > 0:00:47Because, despite the glamorous lifestyles they now lead,
0:00:47 > 0:00:52once, they were a kid with a dream, just like you.
0:00:52 > 0:00:55This show lets you go back in time with your favourite celebs,
0:00:55 > 0:00:58as they become 12 Again.
0:01:01 > 0:01:05MUSIC: "Fires" by Ronan Keating
0:01:06 > 0:01:11As both solo artist and member of legendary man band Boyzone,
0:01:11 > 0:01:14he's been a bedroom pin-up for almost 20 years.
0:01:14 > 0:01:18But back in 1989, Ronan Keating was only just getting in the zone
0:01:18 > 0:01:20when it came to girls.
0:01:20 > 0:01:25I was a bit of a shy kid, wouldn't really talk to girls very much...
0:01:25 > 0:01:27That changed as I got older.
0:01:28 > 0:01:31She's the Countdown presenter who loves nothing more than
0:01:31 > 0:01:32a good conundrum.
0:01:32 > 0:01:35And the target, 441.
0:01:35 > 0:01:37But back in 1998, it wasn't just words
0:01:37 > 0:01:40and numbers that kept Rachel Riley busy.
0:01:41 > 0:01:44My favourite subjects at school were art and PE.
0:01:44 > 0:01:46I was quite artistic, and I loved running around.
0:01:46 > 0:01:49I was good at maths, and I was the only person in the school that
0:01:49 > 0:01:52won a prize for mathematics, so... I was very proud.
0:01:52 > 0:01:55MUSIC: "Modern Day Delilah" by Kiss
0:01:56 > 0:01:58With nearly 40 years' experience to their name,
0:01:58 > 0:02:02Kiss are giants of rock and roll.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05Best known for hits like "Crazy Crazy Nights".
0:02:05 > 0:02:08MUSIC: "Crazy Crazy Nights" by Kiss
0:02:10 > 0:02:12"God Gave Rock 'N' Roll to You".
0:02:12 > 0:02:16MUSIC: God Gave Rock 'N' Roll to You II" by Kiss
0:02:16 > 0:02:18And their legendary stage make-up.
0:02:18 > 0:02:21They are one of the loudest bands in the business.
0:02:24 > 0:02:26And back in the early 1960s, Paul Stanley
0:02:26 > 0:02:31and Gene Simmons had already begun to make themselves heard.
0:02:31 > 0:02:34When I was 12 years old, I was trying to find myself -
0:02:34 > 0:02:37that's when my journey began.
0:02:37 > 0:02:41I remember being very arrogant, and delusional,
0:02:41 > 0:02:43and full of myself.
0:02:43 > 0:02:47And, kids, nothing's changed.
0:02:47 > 0:02:50All are massive stars today, but back when they were 12, they
0:02:50 > 0:02:54had no idea they'd become some of showbiz's best-known celeb faces.
0:02:54 > 0:02:58So let's rewind and find out what they were like back then.
0:02:58 > 0:03:01When I was 12, I had a really bad haircut.
0:03:01 > 0:03:04I cut my hair really short and absolutely hated it and,
0:03:04 > 0:03:06looking back at the photos, I can kind of see why.
0:03:06 > 0:03:10My mum was a hairdresser, so I was quite aware of my hair.
0:03:10 > 0:03:12I had the kind of blond quiff.
0:03:12 > 0:03:14My nickname was Tintin when I was a kid.
0:03:14 > 0:03:18I was very funny looking. I had much shorter hair,
0:03:18 > 0:03:20and my ears were sticking out like so.
0:03:20 > 0:03:25In fact, some of the things I heard at 12 were, "Close those cab doors."
0:03:25 > 0:03:30I was short, a little chunky, I had a big rear end on me,
0:03:30 > 0:03:33and...not the best-looking guy by far.
0:03:33 > 0:03:36I felt really awkward and I was really moody.
0:03:36 > 0:03:39I hated my dad's camera, so every photo and video,
0:03:39 > 0:03:42I'm just looking really annoyed that he was taking it in the first place.
0:03:42 > 0:03:50The American school that I went to was populated by 7,000 other kids,
0:03:50 > 0:03:52so obviously the older kids were bigger,
0:03:52 > 0:03:56sort of more experienced, and sometimes you got picked on.
0:03:56 > 0:03:59You just have to survive and just keep moving on.
0:03:59 > 0:04:02I was a talker in school, so I used to get caught,
0:04:02 > 0:04:03and my voice broke really early.
0:04:03 > 0:04:05The other kids would be talking like this
0:04:05 > 0:04:08and I was talking like that, so the teacher knew straightaway.
0:04:08 > 0:04:10It was like, "Keating!" I always got caught.
0:04:10 > 0:04:12Serves you right, Ronan.
0:04:12 > 0:04:15So, that's what our celebs were like, but what did they get up to?
0:04:15 > 0:04:19Cos I was quite a good hurdler...
0:04:19 > 0:04:22my PE teacher made me show the rest of the girls how to hurdle,
0:04:22 > 0:04:25and I went over the hurdle and, in the hurdling position,
0:04:25 > 0:04:29just stacked it, took the hurdle out, landed in the hurdle position
0:04:29 > 0:04:31and slid all the way to the next hurdle -
0:04:31 > 0:04:34with all my class watching. I used to fall over constantly when I was 12.
0:04:35 > 0:04:37Over in New York where Kiss grew up,
0:04:37 > 0:04:41the kids enjoyed their own unique way of passing the time.
0:04:41 > 0:04:45In New York City, the school that I went to was right next door to
0:04:45 > 0:04:47the apartment building I was in.
0:04:47 > 0:04:50You'd play in the school yard, you'd ride your bike.
0:04:50 > 0:04:51We played stickball,
0:04:51 > 0:04:56which is kind of baseball for people who don't have an area to play.
0:04:56 > 0:05:00You just have a stick, sometimes a broomstick, actually, and a ball,
0:05:00 > 0:05:03and you hit the ball and you run around the bases,
0:05:03 > 0:05:05which are in the street.
0:05:06 > 0:05:09New York in the '60s was quite different to the glamorous
0:05:09 > 0:05:11city we think of today.
0:05:11 > 0:05:15Many people were without jobs and crime was a big problem,
0:05:15 > 0:05:18but Paul remembers his childhood there very fondly.
0:05:19 > 0:05:24There's a whole set of myths as to New York being dangerous.
0:05:24 > 0:05:27Certainly, at that point, I didn't find it to be so,
0:05:27 > 0:05:29but life is what you make it.
0:05:30 > 0:05:34New York was also to play an unexpected
0:05:34 > 0:05:37part in the life of 12-year-old Ronan, when his four older
0:05:37 > 0:05:41brothers and sisters emigrated there in the late 1980s.
0:05:41 > 0:05:43There was no employment in Ireland at the time for my brothers
0:05:43 > 0:05:45and sisters, for people their age,
0:05:45 > 0:05:49so there was this huge movement to New York for the Irish.
0:05:49 > 0:05:53A severe recession in Ireland in the 1980s meant that there was
0:05:53 > 0:05:55not many jobs for people living there.
0:05:55 > 0:05:58I'd prefer not to leave, but when there are no jobs,
0:05:58 > 0:06:01you can't do an awful lot. It seems the easiest way out.
0:06:01 > 0:06:03Lots of Irish people left their country
0:06:03 > 0:06:05and went to America in search of work.
0:06:10 > 0:06:13It wasn't a new thing for Irish people to seek fresh
0:06:13 > 0:06:14opportunities in America, though.
0:06:14 > 0:06:19In fact, such large numbers have emigrated since the mid 17th century
0:06:19 > 0:06:24that today, over 10% of the US population has Irish ancestry.
0:06:25 > 0:06:28For Ronan, though, the departure of his brothers
0:06:28 > 0:06:31and sisters would have a massive impact on his life at home.
0:06:31 > 0:06:34From being in a crazy, energetic household to, all of a sudden,
0:06:34 > 0:06:36Christmas dinner, sitting at the table,
0:06:36 > 0:06:39and you're the only kid - it's pretty tough. It's pretty tough.
0:06:41 > 0:06:44But it isn't just those from Ireland that the United States has
0:06:44 > 0:06:46opened its doors to in the past.
0:06:46 > 0:06:49Gene's family moved there in the 1950s from Israel.
0:06:49 > 0:06:53We were immigrants, came to America when I was eight years of age,
0:06:53 > 0:06:58and were lucky to have a country that welcomed us with open arms
0:06:58 > 0:07:04and gave us every opportunity that native-born sons had,
0:07:04 > 0:07:08and for that I'll always be eternally grateful to the country.
0:07:09 > 0:07:10Back when Ronan was 12,
0:07:10 > 0:07:14he would have been eternally grateful for a tissue.
0:07:14 > 0:07:18I remember one time, embarrassing, I remember I was laughing so hard
0:07:18 > 0:07:21I sneezed, and this really large bogey came out of my nose, and it
0:07:21 > 0:07:24was about this long, and I grabbed it and pulled it out of my nose.
0:07:24 > 0:07:27And it was the most awful thing ever,
0:07:27 > 0:07:30because at that age you start to understand things a little more.
0:07:30 > 0:07:32You start to discover girls, maybe,
0:07:32 > 0:07:35and something like that happens - it's not cool.
0:07:35 > 0:07:38Yeah. Most definitely not cool, Mr Keating.
0:07:38 > 0:07:41So now we know what our celebs were up to when they were 12,
0:07:41 > 0:07:44but what were they listening to?
0:07:44 > 0:07:46I remember there was this one Green Day song called
0:07:46 > 0:07:49"Good Riddance", which everyone knows as "Time Of Your Life".
0:07:49 > 0:07:52MUSIC: "Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)" by Green Day
0:07:52 > 0:07:55It was just a lovely song and it was acoustic,
0:07:55 > 0:07:59and it was the main guy just playing guitar in a room, looking sad, and
0:07:59 > 0:08:03even people who don't like Green Day, I think most people like that song.
0:08:07 > 0:08:10Rachel's favourite song was very different to the music that
0:08:10 > 0:08:11made Green Day famous.
0:08:11 > 0:08:13MUSIC: "Basket Case" by Green Day
0:08:15 > 0:08:18Back in the early '90s they were just as big as they are today,
0:08:18 > 0:08:21and were the most popular band of a new wave of American punk
0:08:21 > 0:08:24rock that included bands like The Offspring...
0:08:24 > 0:08:26MUSIC: "Come Out And Play" by The Offspring
0:08:30 > 0:08:31..Rancid...
0:08:31 > 0:08:34MUSIC: "Time Bomb" by Rancid
0:08:37 > 0:08:39..and NOFX.
0:08:39 > 0:08:41MUSIC: "Leave It Alone" by NOFX
0:08:44 > 0:08:48It was the musical movement that provided one of the soundtracks
0:08:48 > 0:08:51and looks to the '90s, but while Rachel was a fan of the bands,
0:08:51 > 0:08:53she wasn't going to take on the clothes.
0:08:55 > 0:08:57Because I kind of liked grungy music,
0:08:57 > 0:09:02people were a bit surprised, because I didn't dress like that at all.
0:09:02 > 0:09:04I used to get these awful jeans and jumpers
0:09:04 > 0:09:06and think they were the best thing ever,
0:09:06 > 0:09:09so I was very high street in the way I dressed,
0:09:09 > 0:09:11but I just liked the music.
0:09:12 > 0:09:15Despite growing up in America, for Gene and Paul, it would be the
0:09:15 > 0:09:19most famous British band ever that would shape their musical tastes.
0:09:19 > 0:09:23The band that changed everything for me were The Beatles.
0:09:23 > 0:09:27MUSIC: "I Want To Hold Your Hand" by The Beatles
0:09:31 > 0:09:34The Beatles were this magical group of four guys,
0:09:34 > 0:09:37who looked like they came from the same family.
0:09:37 > 0:09:38They dressed the same.
0:09:42 > 0:09:45They had this hairstyle that nobody had seen before that,
0:09:45 > 0:09:50and they led a generation. They were much more than music.
0:09:50 > 0:09:54In the early 1960s, The Beatles led the charge of bands that
0:09:54 > 0:09:57featured in what became known in America as "The British Invasion".
0:09:57 > 0:10:01MUSIC: "The Last Time" by The Rolling Stones
0:10:01 > 0:10:02Along with The Beatles,
0:10:02 > 0:10:05other British bands that enjoyed major success in the US
0:10:05 > 0:10:07included The Rolling Stones,
0:10:07 > 0:10:09The Kinks
0:10:09 > 0:10:10and The Who.
0:10:10 > 0:10:13MUSIC: "Please Please Me" by The Beatles
0:10:14 > 0:10:17England for us was, in a sense, the holy land.
0:10:17 > 0:10:20It was where all the great music
0:10:20 > 0:10:23and all the great bands that we looked up to came from.
0:10:26 > 0:10:30This era of British music had a massive impact on America in the
0:10:30 > 0:10:34decade that followed, and inspired many bands, including Kiss, to form.
0:10:37 > 0:10:41The Beatles was the spark that led to the fire that became who
0:10:41 > 0:10:43we are as performers.
0:10:45 > 0:10:49We took what The Beatles and all the other British bands did,
0:10:49 > 0:10:53took bits and pieces, and made it our own.
0:10:53 > 0:10:56For Ronan, the late '80s were a time for picking up some early
0:10:56 > 0:10:59pointers from one of the decade's biggest boy bands.
0:11:00 > 0:11:04"When Will I Be Famous" was the big Bros single at the time.
0:11:04 > 0:11:07MUSIC: "When Will I Be Famous" by Bros
0:11:11 > 0:11:15Bros were made up of twin brothers Matt and Luke Goss.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18There was also the other one. I think his name's Craig.
0:11:18 > 0:11:19No-one noticed him.
0:11:23 > 0:11:26Bros was short for "brothers" because Matt and Luke were, eh,
0:11:26 > 0:11:28you know, brothers.
0:11:28 > 0:11:31And it also rhymed with Goss, which is their surname.
0:11:31 > 0:11:32Yeah, it's brilliant, isn't it?
0:11:32 > 0:11:35They were the biggest pop band in the world.
0:11:35 > 0:11:36They were huge everywhere.
0:11:36 > 0:11:38MUSIC: "I Owe You Nothing" by Bros
0:11:38 > 0:11:40Ronan Keating is bang on the money.
0:11:40 > 0:11:44In the late 1980s, Bros were massive.
0:11:44 > 0:11:49Between 1987 and 1989, the band had six top five hits and were
0:11:49 > 0:11:54so popular that Britain was caught in the grip of full-on Bros mania.
0:11:54 > 0:11:56They had a very definitive look and style.
0:11:56 > 0:12:00The bomb jackets and the ripped jeans and the hair.
0:12:00 > 0:12:04I liked it, it was cool. It was pop culture, it was cool. It was fun.
0:12:04 > 0:12:06It's like One Direction today.
0:12:06 > 0:12:08There was also another song that Ronan discovered
0:12:08 > 0:12:12when he was 12 that would play a big part in his life for years to come.
0:12:12 > 0:12:15MUSIC: "Father And Son" by Cat Stevens
0:12:15 > 0:12:17"Father and Son" has been with me my whole life -
0:12:17 > 0:12:19I clearly remember it at 12.
0:12:19 > 0:12:23My brother had it on cassette. We used to play it in the car.
0:12:26 > 0:12:29"Father and Son" is a song by singer-songwriter Yusuf Islam,
0:12:29 > 0:12:31better known back then as Cat Stevens.
0:12:31 > 0:12:35It was originally released in 1970.
0:12:35 > 0:12:37MUSIC: "Father and Son" by Boyzone
0:12:39 > 0:12:42When Ronan heard it nearly 20 years later,
0:12:42 > 0:12:45it soon became a song that would be very important to him.
0:12:45 > 0:12:49I'd sang it at the Boyzone audition, then Boyzone covered it.
0:12:52 > 0:12:54Then I did a version of it with Cat Stevens.
0:13:01 > 0:13:05That really is my song now. It tells so many tales for me.
0:13:05 > 0:13:07It's a very important song.
0:13:08 > 0:13:12Still to come, we catch up with Charlie from Lonsdale Boys Club.
0:13:12 > 0:13:14We'd spend so long getting ready for the discos,
0:13:14 > 0:13:18it was quite embarrassing - probably longer than the girls, to be honest.
0:13:18 > 0:13:19Rachel gets competitive.
0:13:19 > 0:13:21I used to watch it with my little brother.
0:13:21 > 0:13:23We used to play against each other.
0:13:23 > 0:13:27He now tells his friends that he used to win - but he lies.
0:13:27 > 0:13:31And Ronan remembers a TV presenter that could make anything happen.
0:13:32 > 0:13:34I actually still use that phrase today.
0:13:34 > 0:13:35When we have a big job to do
0:13:35 > 0:13:38and we've only got a certain time to do it, you use that phrase,
0:13:38 > 0:13:40"This is a Challenge Anneka moment."
0:13:40 > 0:13:43But first, the big news stories from when our celebs were 12.
0:13:48 > 0:13:51Good evening. The euro came into force at midnight,
0:13:51 > 0:13:53not yet as notes and coins in people's pockets, but as the
0:13:53 > 0:13:58official single currency that now binds 11 European states together.
0:13:58 > 0:14:01When I was 12, it was announced that a lot of countries were going
0:14:01 > 0:14:04to get rid of their currencies, so things like the French franc
0:14:04 > 0:14:08and the German Deutschmark and the Italian lira were all going,
0:14:08 > 0:14:11and they were going to bring in this once currency called the euro.
0:14:11 > 0:14:14The euro was introduced on the First of January 1999.
0:14:14 > 0:14:18It was the first step towards having just one currency in Europe -
0:14:18 > 0:14:23an idea that had first been suggested as far back as the 1920s.
0:14:23 > 0:14:27Euro will be a success, a success in terms of growth,
0:14:27 > 0:14:29in terms of competitiveness...
0:14:30 > 0:14:33People wouldn't start using the new coins
0:14:33 > 0:14:36and notes for another three years, but when it finally did hit
0:14:36 > 0:14:39the streets, there was a, shall we say, mixed reaction?
0:14:39 > 0:14:44I believe, really, that it's actually a good thing for Europe, yes.
0:14:44 > 0:14:47I don't like. Nothing. Not at all.
0:14:47 > 0:14:49There was quite a lot of debate as to whether
0:14:49 > 0:14:51we should go into it as well,
0:14:51 > 0:14:54Britain get rid of the pound and adopt the euro.
0:14:54 > 0:14:57Although Britain decided not to ditch the pound,
0:14:57 > 0:14:5923 European territories now use the euro,
0:14:59 > 0:15:02and there are over 900 billion in circulation.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09In 1963, a young Kiss were about to witness one of the most
0:15:09 > 0:15:12shocking moments of the 20th century.
0:15:13 > 0:15:16I remember being in school and, all of a sudden,
0:15:16 > 0:15:19there was an announcement made over the PA system
0:15:19 > 0:15:21that we were all to go home.
0:15:21 > 0:15:24John F Kennedy had been assassinated.
0:15:24 > 0:15:26And now, this special programme.
0:15:26 > 0:15:30Tonight, less than five hours ago, President Kennedy was
0:15:30 > 0:15:34shot down in a Texas street and died almost immediately.
0:15:36 > 0:15:40On the 22nd of November 1963, in Dallas, Texas,
0:15:40 > 0:15:44the President of the United States of America, John F Kennedy,
0:15:44 > 0:15:45was shot and killed,
0:15:45 > 0:15:49as he travelled through the city in an open-topped car.
0:15:49 > 0:15:53This is a sad time for all people.
0:15:54 > 0:15:58We have suffered a loss that cannot be weighed.
0:16:01 > 0:16:02Kennedy was a young president,
0:16:02 > 0:16:05with new ideas on how to unite a country where, in some places,
0:16:05 > 0:16:10people were still segregated by the colour of their skin.
0:16:10 > 0:16:13When I ran for the Presidency of the United States, I knew this
0:16:13 > 0:16:16country faced serious challenges.
0:16:16 > 0:16:19When the President was assassinated, his death shocked
0:16:19 > 0:16:21and saddened America.
0:16:21 > 0:16:26All these amazing things were happening, the civil rights movement,
0:16:26 > 0:16:29everybody wanting to be treated equally, with respect and, all
0:16:29 > 0:16:33of a sudden, darkness fell over all of this positive,
0:16:33 > 0:16:36free flowing of ideas.
0:16:36 > 0:16:39And it was a moment of chaos, when we didn't know what to do.
0:16:41 > 0:16:47The man charged with the murder was former US Marine Lee Harvey Oswald.
0:16:47 > 0:16:51Within days, they were bringing the assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald,
0:16:51 > 0:16:55out of jail to take him for processing and, live
0:16:55 > 0:16:57on television, somebody jumps out of the crowd
0:16:57 > 0:16:59and shoots him and kills him.
0:16:59 > 0:17:01A day after Oswald's death,
0:17:01 > 0:17:04crowds gathered in Washington for the President's funeral.
0:17:04 > 0:17:07The crowds that came to mourn the young president are worried
0:17:07 > 0:17:11and uncertain of the future. A young man told me that he
0:17:11 > 0:17:14thought something bad would come of all this.
0:17:14 > 0:17:17The events surrounding the death of John F Kennedy
0:17:17 > 0:17:19were to have a long-lasting impact on kids growing
0:17:19 > 0:17:22up in America at the time.
0:17:22 > 0:17:25It was a shock to a lot of young people,
0:17:25 > 0:17:29who were looking up at the world as a very positive place.
0:17:29 > 0:17:33And to all of a sudden understand that, like anything,
0:17:33 > 0:17:35there's good and there's bad,
0:17:35 > 0:17:39but that, ultimately, you'll survive, you'll prevail,
0:17:39 > 0:17:43you'll get over the darkness and then there will be light.
0:17:44 > 0:17:47In 1989, it was an incredible lone protest in the Chinese
0:17:47 > 0:17:50capital of Beijing, which was then known as Peking,
0:17:50 > 0:17:54that left a lasting impression on our young Ronan.
0:17:54 > 0:17:56The big news story I remember was Tiananmen Square,
0:17:56 > 0:17:59students protesting against the Chinese government.
0:18:05 > 0:18:06The headlines this evening,
0:18:06 > 0:18:10shots have been fired during violent clashes in Peking.
0:18:10 > 0:18:12There are unconfirmed reports of casualties.
0:18:14 > 0:18:16On the Fourth of June 1989,
0:18:16 > 0:18:20one of the most controversial events in Chinese history happened.
0:18:20 > 0:18:23Several hundred civilians were shot dead by the army
0:18:23 > 0:18:27during a demonstration in Tiananmen Square in Beijing.
0:18:27 > 0:18:31As you've probably heard, government soldiers fired on students in the
0:18:31 > 0:18:36main square, and some reports say that more than 2,000 people died.
0:18:38 > 0:18:41Protesters had occupied the square for seven weeks.
0:18:41 > 0:18:43They were demanding that the government give Chinese people
0:18:43 > 0:18:47free speech and the right to elect their own leaders.
0:18:47 > 0:18:49In the teeth of world condemnation,
0:18:49 > 0:18:54the Chinese Army has continued its campaign to pacify the capital.
0:18:54 > 0:18:56The morning after the massacre, army tanks roamed
0:18:56 > 0:19:00the streets in an attempt to regain control of the city.
0:19:00 > 0:19:03What happened next was an act of defiance that became
0:19:03 > 0:19:06one of the defining images of the 20th century.
0:19:06 > 0:19:10Just after midday, the tanks rolled out of the square.
0:19:10 > 0:19:13A lone young man stood in front of the first one.
0:19:13 > 0:19:15Immediately you go to that image of that man
0:19:15 > 0:19:17standing in front of the tank.
0:19:17 > 0:19:20It was quite a big deal - it was a massive deal.
0:19:20 > 0:19:24That image was frightening and I think it's...
0:19:24 > 0:19:26Once it's in there, it's in there for life.
0:19:26 > 0:19:30Even today, the ruling Communist Party of China won't allow
0:19:30 > 0:19:32discussion of the protests by its people,
0:19:32 > 0:19:36and websites with information about the events are blocked.
0:19:36 > 0:19:38But throughout the rest of the world, the picture
0:19:38 > 0:19:42of the anonymous protester remains instantly recognisable.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46I mean, it still, today, is an iconic image. That was horrific -
0:19:46 > 0:19:48but incredibly brave and honourable.
0:19:50 > 0:19:53Still to come, we ask the all-important question,
0:19:53 > 0:19:56what would our celebs do if they were 12 again?
0:19:56 > 0:20:00I'd tell myself not to worry about bad skin or greasy hair,
0:20:00 > 0:20:02and it won't last for ever.
0:20:02 > 0:20:06Don't look over your shoulder to figure out if it's OK to be you.
0:20:06 > 0:20:09Just be yourself, let everybody else copy you.
0:20:09 > 0:20:12Hold on to those years and slow down - they go by so fast.
0:20:12 > 0:20:13But before that,
0:20:13 > 0:20:16it's time to take two minutes with Charlie from Lonsdale Boys Club.
0:20:16 > 0:20:20MUSIC: "Light Me Up" by Lonsdale Boys Club
0:20:21 > 0:20:24He's one third of a band who were formed in London in 2010
0:20:24 > 0:20:28and are now signed to Gary Barlow's record label.
0:20:29 > 0:20:33But what was Charlie from Lonsdale Boys Club like when he was 12?
0:20:33 > 0:20:36I was quite an easy-going 12-year-old.
0:20:36 > 0:20:37I was having a lot of fun,
0:20:37 > 0:20:41just sort of discovering everything, really, girls and the rest of it.
0:20:41 > 0:20:46Right, it was all about girls, then. Tell us more, Charlie.
0:20:46 > 0:20:48I remember there was lots of parties.
0:20:48 > 0:20:52We'd spend so long getting ready for the discos, it's quite embarrassing,
0:20:52 > 0:20:56covering ourselves in sprays and hair gel and taking hours
0:20:56 > 0:21:00over our clothes - probably longer than the girls, to be honest.
0:21:00 > 0:21:03It was all building up to that moment where you could have your slow dance.
0:21:03 > 0:21:07- Slow dances, eh? - HE WOLF-WHISTLES
0:21:07 > 0:21:09And when you weren't slow dancing,
0:21:09 > 0:21:12what sort of music were you listening to back then?
0:21:12 > 0:21:14When I was 12, I came to London for my first gig,
0:21:14 > 0:21:16which was a Linkin Park concert.
0:21:16 > 0:21:19MUSIC: "In The End" by Linkin Park
0:21:21 > 0:21:24My dad took me and some friends and he didn't even come in,
0:21:24 > 0:21:27he just sort of let us go and experience it by ourselves.
0:21:30 > 0:21:33We found some people in the crowd who lifted us up,
0:21:33 > 0:21:36so we were kind of crowd surfing and enjoying the time so...that was cool.
0:21:39 > 0:21:41Girls, bands and crowd surfing?
0:21:41 > 0:21:44Sounds like it was good back then, but is there anything you'd
0:21:44 > 0:21:46do differently, Charlie from Lonsdale Boys Club?
0:21:46 > 0:21:49If I could go back to when I was 12 for one day,
0:21:49 > 0:21:52I would go to one of the school discos or parties
0:21:52 > 0:21:53that I used to go to.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56Instead of standing at the back, I'd go over to the girls
0:21:56 > 0:21:59and be like, "Boys, this is how we do it."
0:21:59 > 0:22:01And just show them what's going on.
0:22:01 > 0:22:05Smooth. Bit weird, still smooth, though.
0:22:05 > 0:22:06OK. Back to business.
0:22:06 > 0:22:09Let's find out what Rachel, Ronan and Kiss were watching
0:22:09 > 0:22:11when they were 12.
0:22:11 > 0:22:13When I was 12, I used to get home from school,
0:22:13 > 0:22:16and then at 4:30 it was Countdown.
0:22:16 > 0:22:19We all know Countdown - it's a game show where contestants
0:22:19 > 0:22:22have to solve word and number puzzles.
0:22:22 > 0:22:24Hi. Welcome.
0:22:24 > 0:22:28Now, Carol, we won't bother with our usual highly charged badinage.
0:22:28 > 0:22:30OK. See you.
0:22:30 > 0:22:31A consonant, please, Carol.
0:22:31 > 0:22:33The show was the first ever programme to be
0:22:33 > 0:22:36shown on Channel 4, back in 1982.
0:22:38 > 0:22:39Bong.
0:22:39 > 0:22:41And all those years later, it's still with us.
0:22:41 > 0:22:43OK. What's yours, Chris?
0:22:43 > 0:22:44- ROUND.- Daniel?
0:22:44 > 0:22:46- And MOUND.- ROUND and MOUND.
0:22:47 > 0:22:50Back when Rachel was tuning in at 12,
0:22:50 > 0:22:53the presenters were Richard Whiteley and maths genius Carol Vorderman.
0:22:53 > 0:22:56One, two, one, two, please, Carol.
0:22:56 > 0:22:59I used to watch it with my little brother, and we were both quite good
0:22:59 > 0:23:02at maths and anagrams, so we could play against each other.
0:23:02 > 0:23:0310 - 8
0:23:03 > 0:23:0510 - 8 = 2
0:23:05 > 0:23:062 x 75
0:23:06 > 0:23:082 x 75 = 150
0:23:08 > 0:23:09150 + 7
0:23:09 > 0:23:11150 + 7 = 157
0:23:11 > 0:23:13We used to love it, especially the numbers round.
0:23:13 > 0:23:15We were just waiting for the numbers round,
0:23:15 > 0:23:18and we used to play against each other and it was quite competitive.
0:23:18 > 0:23:20But...I normally used to win,
0:23:20 > 0:23:23but he now tells his friends that he used to win - but he lies.
0:23:27 > 0:23:30When Rachel was watching and playing along to Countdown
0:23:30 > 0:23:33when she was 12, little did she know that, over ten years later,
0:23:33 > 0:23:39she would be stepping into Carol Vorderman's very clever shoes.
0:23:39 > 0:23:41Rachel, you can take us all the way.
0:23:41 > 0:23:4310 + 7 = 17
0:23:43 > 0:23:46In 2009, she landed her dream job
0:23:46 > 0:23:48when she took over the show's letter and number duties.
0:23:48 > 0:23:50Very good. Well done.
0:23:52 > 0:23:56Over the US, early '60s TV for Kiss was all about the chance to
0:23:56 > 0:23:58check out the latest bands.
0:23:59 > 0:24:03We had a show called Hullabaloo, we had a show called Shindig,
0:24:03 > 0:24:06we also had Ed Sullivan -
0:24:06 > 0:24:09these shows reflected the music scene,
0:24:09 > 0:24:13and every week you could turn it on and perhaps see four
0:24:13 > 0:24:17or five of the current bands - many of them coming from England.
0:24:17 > 0:24:20During the 1960s, The Ed Sullivan Show was America's biggest
0:24:20 > 0:24:24entertainment programme, often getting huge audiences.
0:24:24 > 0:24:28When The Beatles appeared in February 1964,
0:24:28 > 0:24:30over 70 million people were watching -
0:24:30 > 0:24:33that's more than the entire population of the UK.
0:24:33 > 0:24:35That's where The Beatles made their debut,
0:24:35 > 0:24:38and The Stones and every other band,
0:24:38 > 0:24:43so there was a lot of music that was suddenly coming onto television.
0:24:43 > 0:24:46It found its way into our living rooms
0:24:46 > 0:24:49and changed a generation for ever.
0:24:49 > 0:24:53In 1989, it was an exciting family show with an all-action
0:24:53 > 0:24:57presenter that was essential viewing when Ronan was a kid.
0:24:57 > 0:24:59I remember Challenge Anneka, it was great.
0:24:59 > 0:25:01Anneka Rice was a big star back then.
0:25:01 > 0:25:05The challenge. "By sunset tonight groom my horse
0:25:05 > 0:25:08"and then take a dazzling torchlit photograph."
0:25:10 > 0:25:14The Anneka that was being challenged was dads' favourite Anneka Rice.
0:25:14 > 0:25:16Does anyone know anything about gardening?
0:25:16 > 0:25:19In each episode, the jumpsuit-loving presenter was given a tricky
0:25:19 > 0:25:22task to pull off against the clock.
0:25:22 > 0:25:25From building football pitches to getting books printed.
0:25:28 > 0:25:29Well done, everyone.
0:25:29 > 0:25:31With the time ticking away,
0:25:31 > 0:25:33Anneka had to persuade people to give
0:25:33 > 0:25:35whatever help they could for free.
0:25:35 > 0:25:38Hello, is Alan Titchmarsh there?
0:25:38 > 0:25:40- Yeah.- Alan, it's Anneka Rice, here.
0:25:40 > 0:25:44She'd scrounge around, get as much people to help as possible, get
0:25:44 > 0:25:48as much free stuff as she could, and turn somebody's house into a palace.
0:25:48 > 0:25:51It was amazing. It was a great show.
0:25:51 > 0:25:55"By two o'clock tomorrow afternoon, organise a children's party." Help.
0:25:57 > 0:25:59When she wasn't running around aimlessly,
0:25:59 > 0:26:02Anneka pulled off some fantastic feel-good moments
0:26:02 > 0:26:03as part of the show.
0:26:03 > 0:26:07She even built a kids' playground in just one day!
0:26:07 > 0:26:08I actually still use that phrase today.
0:26:08 > 0:26:11When we have a big job to do somewhere and we've only got
0:26:11 > 0:26:13a certain amount of time to do it, you use that phrase,
0:26:13 > 0:26:16"This is a Challenge Anneka moment."
0:26:16 > 0:26:19So those were the TV memories of our four celebs.
0:26:19 > 0:26:22But what do they most remember about being kids?
0:26:22 > 0:26:2712 was a magical time when you can really start
0:26:27 > 0:26:29to think about who it is you are
0:26:29 > 0:26:32and what it is you're going to do in life.
0:26:32 > 0:26:35The best thing about being 12 is that you don't really have
0:26:35 > 0:26:39any responsibilities. It was fun. There were no stresses.
0:26:39 > 0:26:42You can aspire to things. You can dream,
0:26:42 > 0:26:46and those dreams can become the blueprints for your reality.
0:26:46 > 0:26:49Life is simple - it's simple and it's brilliant.
0:26:49 > 0:26:53Summers are long, the weekends are great and it's a good age.
0:26:53 > 0:26:56You haven't worked out how to do your make-up properly,
0:26:56 > 0:26:58you haven't worked out what clothes look good,
0:26:58 > 0:26:59so you feel a bit awkward.
0:26:59 > 0:27:04Every little mistake, every trip on the sidewalk,
0:27:04 > 0:27:08you think is witnessed and judged by the world.
0:27:08 > 0:27:10The truth is, it doesn't matter.
0:27:10 > 0:27:13Tomorrow the sun comes up, everything moves on.
0:27:13 > 0:27:17If I were 12 again, I'd tell myself not to worry about bad
0:27:17 > 0:27:20skin or greasy hair, and it won't last for ever.
0:27:20 > 0:27:24If I could give myself advice, I'd say, "Slow down.
0:27:24 > 0:27:27"Hold on to those years and slow down. They go by so fast."
0:27:27 > 0:27:31Don't look over your shoulder to figure out if it's OK to be you,
0:27:31 > 0:27:34just be yourself, let everybody else copy you.
0:27:34 > 0:27:37Be a leader, not a follower.
0:27:37 > 0:27:4012 was a good age. I wouldn't mind being 12 again for a while.
0:27:42 > 0:27:44So, what have we learned, then?
0:27:46 > 0:27:47Back in the early '90s,
0:27:47 > 0:27:50you needed very large pockets to keep your phone in.
0:27:50 > 0:27:52Hello, is Alan, Alan Titchmarsh there?
0:27:52 > 0:27:5510 - 8 = 2
0:27:55 > 0:27:58Maths can be entertaining... Sort of.
0:28:01 > 0:28:03And someone needs to tell Gene Simmons it's rude to
0:28:03 > 0:28:05stick your tongue out.
0:28:06 > 0:28:08I won't do it, though. He's quite scary looking.