0:00:02 > 0:00:06Coming up - some of the country's best-known TV chefs become 12 again.
0:00:07 > 0:00:10It was the most extraordinary thing I'd seen.
0:00:10 > 0:00:13Gizzi for Robbie forever, for sure.
0:00:13 > 0:00:16# Karma, karma, karma, karma, karma chameleon. #
0:00:16 > 0:00:17No, it's terrible!
0:00:19 > 0:00:20And I used to dance.
0:00:21 > 0:00:23Hungry for more?
0:00:23 > 0:00:27Well...ever wondered what it would have been like to be best mates
0:00:27 > 0:00:31with your favourite celebs when they were your age?
0:00:31 > 0:00:34What did they get up to? What were their favourite songs?
0:00:34 > 0:00:37And which TV shows did they watch?
0:00:37 > 0:00:40Despite the exciting lifestyles they now lead,
0:00:40 > 0:00:45once, they were a kid with a dream, just like you.
0:00:45 > 0:00:49So let's rewind and find out what they were like when they were 12.
0:00:54 > 0:00:56He's the gastronaut who loves nothing better
0:00:56 > 0:00:59than cooking up incredible edibles.
0:00:59 > 0:01:03- Deep-fried locust, anyone? - I'm a food adventurer!
0:01:04 > 0:01:06But back in 1980,
0:01:06 > 0:01:10Stefan Gates had his sights set higher than just cooking.
0:01:10 > 0:01:12When I was 12, I wanted to rule the world.
0:01:12 > 0:01:15Eradicate poverty, stop war, everyone love each other,
0:01:15 > 0:01:17and the place will be great with me at the head.
0:01:17 > 0:01:21She has a reputation as one of the most stylish cooks in the country.
0:01:21 > 0:01:24Oh, fantastic!
0:01:24 > 0:01:26But back in 1991,
0:01:26 > 0:01:29style and looks weren't on the menu for Gizzi Erskine.
0:01:29 > 0:01:33My dad said, "It's OK, Gizzi, you'll be like the ugly duckling.
0:01:33 > 0:01:35"You'll grow into a beautiful swan."
0:01:35 > 0:01:38I'd be, like, "I know you're trying to be nice,
0:01:38 > 0:01:40"but that doesn't feel very good."
0:01:42 > 0:01:46These days, Hairy Bikers Si and Dave are the nation's favourite foodies.
0:01:46 > 0:01:48THEY LAUGH
0:01:48 > 0:01:51But when they were 12 in the 1970s,
0:01:51 > 0:01:54their food wasn't exactly fine dining.
0:01:54 > 0:01:59It was dreadful - tinned food, instant potato, tinned peas.
0:01:59 > 0:02:01It was pretty dreadful.
0:02:02 > 0:02:04She's the queen of Indian cuisine
0:02:04 > 0:02:07who likes nothing more than to spice things up in the kitchen.
0:02:07 > 0:02:10It's food that's tasty, yet light and healthy too.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13But when she was 12 in 1983,
0:02:13 > 0:02:17Anjum Anand was getting stuck on another pastime altogether.
0:02:17 > 0:02:21We'd collect stickers, trade them, we were very excited about them.
0:02:21 > 0:02:23I bought scratch-and-sniff stickers, they were weird.
0:02:23 > 0:02:27Charcoal - who wants to smell charcoal?
0:02:27 > 0:02:30All are massive stars of the food scene today.
0:02:30 > 0:02:33But when they were 12, they had no idea what they were going to become.
0:02:33 > 0:02:36So let's find out who they were back then.
0:02:38 > 0:02:41When I was 12, I was totally geeky.
0:02:41 > 0:02:43I was a total dweeb.
0:02:43 > 0:02:44I was a tomboy.
0:02:44 > 0:02:47I liked climbing trees, I didn't like girl things.
0:02:49 > 0:02:52I was quite loud and outgoing when I was 12.
0:02:52 > 0:02:56But kind of quite shy, as well, so it was a bit of a confusing time.
0:02:57 > 0:03:02When I was 12, I thought normal was a terrible thing to be.
0:03:02 > 0:03:06And I wanted to be different, I just didn't know how to do it.
0:03:09 > 0:03:11When I was 12, I was quite confident.
0:03:11 > 0:03:15But in a bigger crowd, I wouldn't put myself forward.
0:03:15 > 0:03:18I'd let myself go into the background.
0:03:18 > 0:03:23I was a worried chap. When I was 12, I always used to worry.
0:03:23 > 0:03:27My main hobby was drawing and painting.
0:03:27 > 0:03:30So if I had paper and pencils, I was the happiest person.
0:03:31 > 0:03:34That's what our groovy gourmands were like,
0:03:34 > 0:03:36but what did they look like?
0:03:36 > 0:03:38I was a sort of a punk.
0:03:38 > 0:03:42I had one manky jumper which sort of made me feel like I was different.
0:03:42 > 0:03:45And I had very ripped jeans. Ha!
0:03:45 > 0:03:48Every bit of my legs was falling out of them.
0:03:48 > 0:03:50There was very little material.
0:03:50 > 0:03:54When I was 12, I was really quite fat and quite short.
0:03:54 > 0:03:57I don't think I had a stylish haircut either.
0:03:57 > 0:03:59I don't think I looked very good.
0:03:59 > 0:04:03Fashionwise, I think my mother had dressed me up in dresses
0:04:03 > 0:04:07my whole childhood, so when I could, I stopped all of that.
0:04:07 > 0:04:08I wore no pink.
0:04:08 > 0:04:11It was just jeans and darker colours
0:04:11 > 0:04:14and...more of a tomboyish edge.
0:04:16 > 0:04:20When I was 12, I had alopecia, where you lose all your hair.
0:04:20 > 0:04:24I was 12 years old, and I didn't have any hair or eyebrows or eyelashes.
0:04:24 > 0:04:27There's nothing else wrong with you, you just lose your hair.
0:04:27 > 0:04:32It's easier now because loads of people have shaven heads.
0:04:32 > 0:04:36In those days, everybody was hairy, and I was the only one with no hair.
0:04:36 > 0:04:38You've always been a trendsetter.
0:04:38 > 0:04:42- I've been ahead of my time.- He has. - I have.- No pun intended.
0:04:42 > 0:04:47I was little, round-faced, had glasses.
0:04:47 > 0:04:52I wouldn't say I was fashionable. I was very into big jumpers.
0:04:52 > 0:04:55If it wasn't a jumper, it would probably be a giant jumpsuit.
0:04:55 > 0:04:57I probably looked a bit like a Teletubby.
0:04:57 > 0:05:01So that's what our 12-year-old bon viveurs looked like.
0:05:01 > 0:05:05How far down the road to becoming mealtime maestros were they?
0:05:06 > 0:05:08Like many young people today,
0:05:08 > 0:05:12I was a young carer because my mother had multiple sclerosis.
0:05:12 > 0:05:15So myself and my dad started cooking.
0:05:15 > 0:05:18By the time I was 12, I was cooking for the family.
0:05:18 > 0:05:23I would go to the supermarket, and I started to buy fresh food.
0:05:23 > 0:05:26I think that's where the core of my love of food came.
0:05:26 > 0:05:29And I found an old cookbook, and I started to cook.
0:05:29 > 0:05:34My father died when I was eight, so what my mam did was
0:05:34 > 0:05:38the time that we spent together was baking and that sort of stuff.
0:05:38 > 0:05:42That was the way me and Mam had our leisure time together.
0:05:45 > 0:05:48I was born in London, but at four we moved to Geneva.
0:05:48 > 0:05:50So we lived in Switzerland,
0:05:50 > 0:05:53and we were put in this international school.
0:05:53 > 0:05:57So my best friends were American, from New Zealand...
0:05:57 > 0:06:00There was a Japanese girl who I was friends with for a while.
0:06:00 > 0:06:04It was a great place to be foodwise, because I got to taste
0:06:04 > 0:06:07everyone's food in their homes, in their lunchboxes.
0:06:07 > 0:06:12And it was just a really great way to spark my interest in food.
0:06:14 > 0:06:18My mum and dad were separated, they were divorced.
0:06:18 > 0:06:20And my mum was very time-pushed,
0:06:20 > 0:06:23so we'd always have a job to do in the kitchen.
0:06:23 > 0:06:27My mum was obviously this real powerhouse in the kitchen
0:06:27 > 0:06:29and was constantly experimenting.
0:06:29 > 0:06:31I don't think we ate many things twice.
0:06:31 > 0:06:35Especially on the weekend, she'd want to try something new.
0:06:35 > 0:06:38She had dinner parties that were so opulent.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42I remember going to my dad's house and it being completely different.
0:06:42 > 0:06:45He couldn't cook, it was a whole different game.
0:06:45 > 0:06:48Anything that could be boiled in the bag or microwaved.
0:06:48 > 0:06:51But I always found it a bit space age.
0:06:51 > 0:06:55I used to think it was cool and my dad was cutting edge.
0:06:55 > 0:06:58And some of my dirty secrets when it comes down to food
0:06:58 > 0:07:00still come back to those days.
0:07:01 > 0:07:06When I was growing up, food was awful.
0:07:06 > 0:07:09Awful, awful, terrible, rubbish.
0:07:09 > 0:07:14Meals were kind of sort of... strict and boring and formal.
0:07:14 > 0:07:17Not a barrel of laughs until, when I was 12,
0:07:17 > 0:07:20we got tickets to go to Japan.
0:07:24 > 0:07:28Now, this was an alien nation. It was like being on the moon.
0:07:30 > 0:07:34When we arrived, got off the plane, went straight to a restaurant.
0:07:35 > 0:07:40And they brought out raw meat and raw fish,
0:07:40 > 0:07:42and then you eat it, just like that.
0:07:45 > 0:07:46I put this in my mouth,
0:07:46 > 0:07:52and food suddenly became the most exciting, naughty, shocking,
0:07:52 > 0:07:57playful, interesting thing I'd ever come across in my life.
0:07:57 > 0:08:01And it was like a lightning bolt when everything changed,
0:08:01 > 0:08:05and I realised this was the most fascinating thing in the world
0:08:05 > 0:08:07and I wanted to be part of it.
0:08:09 > 0:08:13So, all the ingredients for a fine future in food were in the bag,
0:08:13 > 0:08:17but what music was whetting their appetites?
0:08:17 > 0:08:20Thin Lizzy's Dancing In The Moonlight.
0:08:23 > 0:08:26# When you passed me in the doorway
0:08:26 > 0:08:29# Well, you took me with a glance... #
0:08:29 > 0:08:33Dancing In The Moonlight by Thin Lizzy is a great love story
0:08:33 > 0:08:35which still gets Si going to this day.
0:08:36 > 0:08:41Dancing In The Moonlight is about this lad that's dating this girl.
0:08:41 > 0:08:43He gets trouble from his mam and dad
0:08:43 > 0:08:46because he's always out late with her
0:08:46 > 0:08:49and he should've been home by ten but he never is.
0:08:49 > 0:08:51# But I'm dancing in the moonlight... #
0:08:51 > 0:08:55Whilst 12-year-old Si was dancing in the moonlight,
0:08:55 > 0:08:5912-year-old Anjum was getting a little bit of culture.
0:09:02 > 0:09:06# Desert loving in your eyes all the way... #
0:09:06 > 0:09:09One of my favourite groups was Culture Club.
0:09:09 > 0:09:12# If I listened to your lies would you say... #
0:09:12 > 0:09:16Culture Club's leader singer, Boy George, was a colourful character,
0:09:16 > 0:09:19known for a look that turned people's heads.
0:09:19 > 0:09:22He was a really flamboyant character.
0:09:22 > 0:09:25He wore makeup and he had colourful clothes.
0:09:25 > 0:09:27He had fingerless gloves he wore often.
0:09:27 > 0:09:30He was fun and was upbeat, and he was vibrant.
0:09:30 > 0:09:34# You come and go...
0:09:34 > 0:09:37# Karma, karma, karma, karma, karma chameleon... #
0:09:37 > 0:09:39No, it's terrible!
0:09:39 > 0:09:41# You come and go
0:09:41 > 0:09:44# You come and go... #
0:09:44 > 0:09:46Boy George was fantastic.
0:09:46 > 0:09:50Whilst 12-year-old Anjum was happy bopping along to Boy George,
0:09:50 > 0:09:55for 12-year-old Stefan, there was some music he couldn't stomach,
0:09:55 > 0:09:59like the song that ended up being the bestselling record of 1979.
0:10:00 > 0:10:02There was some terrible, awful,
0:10:02 > 0:10:07dirgey, droning - uh! - gruesome music back then.
0:10:07 > 0:10:11And the classic, which was Art Garfunkel, Bright Eyes.
0:10:11 > 0:10:15# Bright eyes
0:10:15 > 0:10:17# Burning like fire... #
0:10:17 > 0:10:19It's about a rabbit.
0:10:19 > 0:10:21It's about a rabbit!
0:10:21 > 0:10:23# Bright eyes
0:10:23 > 0:10:26# How can you close and fail? #
0:10:26 > 0:10:28Bright Eyes was the theme tune
0:10:28 > 0:10:31for the 1978 blockbuster Watership Down.
0:10:31 > 0:10:33The animated film followed rabbits
0:10:33 > 0:10:36struggling to find a home where they could be happy.
0:10:36 > 0:10:39# Bright eyes... #
0:10:39 > 0:10:41The song was number one for six weeks
0:10:41 > 0:10:44and was about how a rabbit called Fiver feels
0:10:44 > 0:10:47when he discovers his brother's been injured by a farmer.
0:10:47 > 0:10:48- HE SOBS - I'm sorry!
0:10:50 > 0:10:52This is pop and rock music -
0:10:52 > 0:10:55it should be about love, passion, changing the world!
0:10:55 > 0:10:56This was about a rabbit!
0:10:56 > 0:10:59Why should that be number one?! Get off!
0:10:59 > 0:11:03You don't understand! His brother was injured by a farmer!
0:11:04 > 0:11:06Anyway, when Gizzi was 12,
0:11:06 > 0:11:10music was pulling her in two different directions.
0:11:10 > 0:11:13I had music that I would listen to at school
0:11:13 > 0:11:15and the music I'd listen to at home.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18So my school music were bands like Take That.
0:11:18 > 0:11:20Gizzi for Robbie forever, for sure.
0:11:20 > 0:11:24Without a doubt, I was going to marry Robbie Williams.
0:11:24 > 0:11:28# All I do each night is pray... #
0:11:28 > 0:11:31They may be a man band today, but when Gizzi was 12,
0:11:31 > 0:11:35Take That were the leaders of the global boyband scene.
0:11:37 > 0:11:40Could It Be Magic was in the charts when I was 12,
0:11:40 > 0:11:43and it was the song Robbie Williams got to sing on,
0:11:43 > 0:11:45so it made it extra special for me.
0:11:47 > 0:11:49# Spirits move me
0:11:49 > 0:11:52# Every time I'm near you
0:11:53 > 0:11:59# Whirling like a cyclone in my mind... #
0:11:59 > 0:12:02But there was another side to Gizzi's musical tastes at 12
0:12:02 > 0:12:06that was less pop and more rock.
0:12:06 > 0:12:10At home, it would be the stuff my sister listened to.
0:12:10 > 0:12:13So I got into Guns N' Roses in a big way.
0:12:13 > 0:12:16# Welcome to the jungle We got fun and games... #
0:12:16 > 0:12:21Guns N' Roses were fronted by Axl Rose and guitarist Slash.
0:12:21 > 0:12:24He's the creepy hairy guy in the hat.
0:12:24 > 0:12:28# If you got no money, honey, we got your disease.. .#
0:12:28 > 0:12:30The band were a global phenomenon
0:12:30 > 0:12:33known for their glam-metal image, and they rocked!
0:12:33 > 0:12:35# Kn-kn-knees, knees
0:12:35 > 0:12:38# Down in the jungle Welcome to the jungle... #
0:12:38 > 0:12:41For Gizzi, their most memorable hit was in 1992.
0:12:41 > 0:12:45# Feels like I'm knocking on heaven's door... #
0:12:45 > 0:12:48Knocking On Heaven's Door was in the charts when I was 12.
0:12:48 > 0:12:52# Knock, knock knocking on heaven's door... #
0:12:52 > 0:12:56That has to be one of my favourite songs of all-time.
0:12:56 > 0:12:59It's still one of those songs everyone knows and loves.
0:12:59 > 0:13:04What's not to love? He dances about in his pants!
0:13:04 > 0:13:07But despite those awesome moves, Robbie and the boys in Take That
0:13:07 > 0:13:10will always have a special place in Gizzi's heart.
0:13:10 > 0:13:12# Everything changes but you... #
0:13:12 > 0:13:16I did actually go and see Take That recently and I did go wild.
0:13:16 > 0:13:18I bet you did, Gizzi.
0:13:18 > 0:13:23Let's rewind two decades, and Hairy Biker Dave was going wild, too.
0:13:23 > 0:13:25But to a very different beat.
0:13:25 > 0:13:30When I was around about 12, the band that caught my imagination was T-Rex.
0:13:30 > 0:13:33# Ride it on out like a bird in the sky ways... #
0:13:33 > 0:13:37The first big hit they had was called Ride A White Swan.
0:13:37 > 0:13:40# Ride a white swan like the people of the Beltane
0:13:40 > 0:13:44# Wear your hair long, babe, you can't go wrong... #
0:13:44 > 0:13:46HE HUMS A TUNE
0:13:46 > 0:13:48Stop there, stop there.
0:13:48 > 0:13:50Seriously, stop it right now or you're out.
0:13:56 > 0:13:58T-Rex was fronted by a man called Marc Bolan.
0:13:58 > 0:14:00He was like this kind of rock elf.
0:14:00 > 0:14:04He had corkscrew curls, he had glitter on his face,
0:14:04 > 0:14:07he wore loads of make-up and very glittery clothes.
0:14:07 > 0:14:08# Friends say it's fine
0:14:08 > 0:14:10# Friends say it's good
0:14:10 > 0:14:14# Everybody says it just like Robin Hood... #
0:14:14 > 0:14:17Dave was pretty eager to get the look,
0:14:17 > 0:14:20even resorting to picking up a needle and thread.
0:14:20 > 0:14:23We didn't have any money for me to have the look,
0:14:23 > 0:14:27so I made clothes on my mother's sewing machine out of old stuff.
0:14:27 > 0:14:29I made my own loon pants.
0:14:29 > 0:14:33Loon pants were like bell-bottom trousers with 28-inch bottoms.
0:14:33 > 0:14:37I got a pair of my old school pants and some of my jeans
0:14:37 > 0:14:40and I put bits in at the side and made my own.
0:14:40 > 0:14:42I looked a complete disaster.
0:14:42 > 0:14:46I'm sure you looked lovely(!) Hmm.
0:14:47 > 0:14:51T-Rex ruled the airways with top-ten hit after top-ten hit,
0:14:51 > 0:14:54which included this favourite of Dave's, Jeepster.
0:14:54 > 0:15:00# Girl, I'm just a Jeepster for your love
0:15:02 > 0:15:07# I'm just a vampire for your love... #
0:15:07 > 0:15:10DAVE IMITATES DRUMS
0:15:10 > 0:15:13And I used to dance. SI LAUGHS
0:15:13 > 0:15:15Right, you've had your warning.
0:15:15 > 0:15:18A little podgy fat kid with no hair.
0:15:18 > 0:15:19Get out!
0:15:21 > 0:15:23Still to come, we find out what TV
0:15:23 > 0:15:26our gourmands were glued to when they were 12.
0:15:26 > 0:15:29He was always very cool, and he looked cool.
0:15:29 > 0:15:31That was terrific.
0:15:31 > 0:15:34There was a crazy woman on there with curly blonde hair
0:15:34 > 0:15:36and she was really bubbly.
0:15:38 > 0:15:42I loved all that crazy, loud drama.
0:15:42 > 0:15:46But first, let's see what news stories were having
0:15:46 > 0:15:50an impact on our 12-year-old celebrities.
0:15:50 > 0:15:54A big news story when I was 12 was the assassination of Indira Gandhi.
0:15:58 > 0:16:03Indira Gandhi, ruler of the world's largest democracy, died today,
0:16:03 > 0:16:05shot down by two of her own bodyguards.
0:16:07 > 0:16:10On 31st October 1984,
0:16:10 > 0:16:14the news broke that India's prime minister, Indira Gandhi,
0:16:14 > 0:16:15had been shot and killed
0:16:15 > 0:16:18whilst walking in the garden of her New Delhi home.
0:16:18 > 0:16:22"Indira Gandhi was take to hospital after she'd been shot.
0:16:22 > 0:16:24"The crowds prayed for the life of the woman
0:16:24 > 0:16:28"who'd led them for more than 16 years."
0:16:28 > 0:16:30The news shocked the whole world.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32And in Switzerland, it had a great impact
0:16:32 > 0:16:34on Anjum and her Indian family.
0:16:36 > 0:16:39Indira Gandhi was from India, a country I never lived in,
0:16:39 > 0:16:41but still very much felt I belonged to.
0:16:41 > 0:16:44She was the first female prime minister of India.
0:16:44 > 0:16:48She was a strong woman who had to take some tough decisions
0:16:48 > 0:16:51which people weren't all happy with at the time.
0:16:52 > 0:16:55Indira Gandhi was a controversial figure.
0:16:55 > 0:16:59She was praised for her battle against famine in rural areas,
0:16:59 > 0:17:02but she will also be remembered for taking
0:17:02 > 0:17:06a hard line against Sikh extremists, who would ultimately take her life.
0:17:06 > 0:17:07When she was assassinated,
0:17:07 > 0:17:11it was the conflict between Sikhs and Hindus in India,
0:17:11 > 0:17:14and it really opened me up into the real world
0:17:14 > 0:17:17of how there is conflict between people of the same country.
0:17:17 > 0:17:21So it got me thinking about bigger issues in many different ways.
0:17:21 > 0:17:23So it was quite momentous.
0:17:29 > 0:17:32In April 1980, one of the biggest news stories of the decade
0:17:32 > 0:17:34was unfolding in London.
0:17:34 > 0:17:37The thing that really sticks in my mind from when I was 12
0:17:37 > 0:17:42was this very dramatic hostage siege which happened in central London.
0:17:42 > 0:17:44It was the Iranian Embassy siege.
0:17:44 > 0:17:47A political group who were Iranian themselves
0:17:47 > 0:17:50wanted to bring about change in their homelands.
0:17:50 > 0:17:52Their methods were brutal.
0:17:52 > 0:17:55They took 26 people hostage at the embassy
0:17:55 > 0:17:59and threatened to kill them unless their demands were met.
0:17:59 > 0:18:00For six days,
0:18:00 > 0:18:05Britain was gripped by the live television coverage of the siege.
0:18:05 > 0:18:08The crunch came after one of the hostages was murdered.
0:18:08 > 0:18:11The Government sent in the Army's secret special forces,
0:18:11 > 0:18:13known as the SAS.
0:18:17 > 0:18:22Very, very dramatically, the SAS stormed the building.
0:18:22 > 0:18:27And what you saw is them entering through this balcony first of all.
0:18:27 > 0:18:29They threw in stun grenades.
0:18:30 > 0:18:34And they took over the building. It was very dramatic.
0:18:36 > 0:18:40It all happened in broad daylight and in front of millions
0:18:40 > 0:18:43of live television viewers, including Stefan.
0:18:43 > 0:18:46You were desperate to know what was going on inside.
0:18:46 > 0:18:49And I think that was the defining emotion of watching it,
0:18:49 > 0:18:52which was excitement and fear.
0:18:52 > 0:18:57And this amazing sense of, "Am I really watching this live?"
0:18:59 > 0:19:01The operation took just 17 minutes.
0:19:01 > 0:19:05Unfortunately, one of the hostages died during the rescue.
0:19:05 > 0:19:07The rest were freed.
0:19:07 > 0:19:10Five of the gunmen were killed, and one was arrested
0:19:10 > 0:19:13and later sentenced to life imprisonment.
0:19:13 > 0:19:17It was the most extraordinary thing I've ever seen.
0:19:17 > 0:19:21In the year Gizzi was 12, one of the nation's most important
0:19:21 > 0:19:26historic buildings was hitting the headlines for all the wrong reasons.
0:19:26 > 0:19:31One of the big news stories was when Windsor Castle was set alight.
0:19:31 > 0:19:34"The Six O'Clock News from the BBC."
0:19:36 > 0:19:40Fire has swept through Windsor Castle and caused enormous damage.
0:19:40 > 0:19:44It's still burning, and this is the scene from Windsor tonight.
0:19:44 > 0:19:46Windsor Castle is the oldest
0:19:46 > 0:19:50and largest inhabited castle in the world.
0:19:50 > 0:19:52The fire threatened not only the building itself,
0:19:52 > 0:19:55but the major art collection it housed.
0:19:55 > 0:19:57I remember waking up on the morning
0:19:57 > 0:20:03and finding out it had happened and being totally, like, devastated.
0:20:03 > 0:20:05100 rooms were damaged in the fire,
0:20:05 > 0:20:07which is thought to have been started
0:20:07 > 0:20:10by a spotlight shining on a curtain.
0:20:10 > 0:20:12It took 250 firefighters 15 hours
0:20:12 > 0:20:17and 1.5 million gallons of water to put the blaze out.
0:20:17 > 0:20:19Luckily, no-one was hurt.
0:20:20 > 0:20:24It was a shocking thing to happen to the Royal Family, because
0:20:24 > 0:20:27you always put them on a pedestal that nothing could happen to them.
0:20:27 > 0:20:30I just remember being very sad about it.
0:20:30 > 0:20:33I remember seeing the Queen genuinely looking very sad about it,
0:20:33 > 0:20:36and being quite bleak, actually.
0:20:36 > 0:20:38It just made me really humanise them
0:20:38 > 0:20:41and realise that they aren't any different to us.
0:20:41 > 0:20:44Windsor Castle was eventually restored to its former glory,
0:20:44 > 0:20:46but it didn't come cheap.
0:20:46 > 0:20:50The repair bill came to a whopping £40 million
0:20:50 > 0:20:53and took five years to complete.
0:20:53 > 0:20:56Obviously, it got rebuilt and it's looking great,
0:20:56 > 0:20:59but I remember at the time finding it so shocking.
0:21:04 > 0:21:06Still to come, we ask the all-important question,
0:21:06 > 0:21:09what advice would our food aficionados
0:21:09 > 0:21:11offer their 12-year-old selves?
0:21:11 > 0:21:14Enjoy being 12 for as long as you can.
0:21:14 > 0:21:16Stop being obsessed with yourself.
0:21:16 > 0:21:19And if you don't, then that's also fine.
0:21:19 > 0:21:22Don't worry about growing up too fast.
0:21:22 > 0:21:25But first, let's find out what our 12-year-old future foodies
0:21:25 > 0:21:28were watching on the old telly box.
0:21:32 > 0:21:36The big thing for me was The Old Grey Whistle Test.
0:21:36 > 0:21:42The Old Grey Whistle Test ran for 16 years on BBC Two from 1971.
0:21:42 > 0:21:45As a 12-year-old in the '70s and '80s,
0:21:45 > 0:21:49it was one of the very few places you could see your favourite bands.
0:21:49 > 0:21:54All the big international stars were on it, and it was just fantastic.
0:21:54 > 0:22:00All of my kind of heroes gravitated to The Old Grey Whistle Test.
0:22:00 > 0:22:04Si's not wrong, there were some massive names on the bill.
0:22:04 > 0:22:07But there were also some smaller bands
0:22:07 > 0:22:09whose acts weren't quite as polished.
0:22:12 > 0:22:14See what I mean?
0:22:14 > 0:22:18And others with some pretty far-out names.
0:22:18 > 0:22:21Music from Little Feat, a song from the Dixie Chicken album,
0:22:21 > 0:22:25- that was Fat Man In The Bathtub. - There's a fat man in my what?
0:22:25 > 0:22:27It was brilliant, I loved it.
0:22:27 > 0:22:29The presenter was Whispering Bob Harris.
0:22:29 > 0:22:32Welcome to Whistle Test and the programme tonight
0:22:32 > 0:22:35which, for the most part, revolves around John Lennon.
0:22:35 > 0:22:38He was always very cool, and he looked cool.
0:22:38 > 0:22:42Come on in to another 40 minutes of Whistle's wax to watch.
0:22:42 > 0:22:46Are you sure? Maybe "cool" meant something a bit different back then.
0:22:46 > 0:22:48So there we are...
0:22:48 > 0:22:51It was brilliant, loved it, Old Grey Whistle Test, rock on.
0:22:51 > 0:22:54That was terrific!
0:22:54 > 0:22:56When Gizzi was 12,
0:22:56 > 0:23:00she was already watching all the food shows on TV she could,
0:23:00 > 0:23:04including one with a presenter with a style all of her own.
0:23:04 > 0:23:09There was a show called Food And Drink which I watched religiously.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14Whilst Food And Drink has made a comeback recently,
0:23:14 > 0:23:19it first appeared on our screens in 1982 and ran for two whole decades.
0:23:19 > 0:23:23It wasn't just the gourmet treats on offer that kept audiences glued.
0:23:23 > 0:23:26The unique style of one of the presenters
0:23:26 > 0:23:28had viewers like Gizzi captivated.
0:23:31 > 0:23:35There was a crazy woman called Jilly Goolden, who was the wine expert,
0:23:35 > 0:23:38with this big curly blonde hair, and she was really bubbly.
0:23:38 > 0:23:41Jilly was best known for some of her more flamboyant wine-tastings.
0:23:41 > 0:23:45- She did not hold back. - If I say to you seaweed...
0:23:45 > 0:23:46Terrific dollop of oak!
0:23:46 > 0:23:48That sort of rotting cabbage smell.
0:23:48 > 0:23:51It's quite like the juice left after you've eaten a clam.
0:23:51 > 0:23:56It has a smell of a just revving up, smouldering compost heap.
0:23:56 > 0:24:00Hang on a second! Rotting cabbage? Stinking compost heap?
0:24:00 > 0:24:03That's not wine, that's my dad's back garden!
0:24:07 > 0:24:10When Anjum was 12, films from far away
0:24:10 > 0:24:12were keeping her glued to the telly.
0:24:12 > 0:24:16When I was 12, we didn't watch masses of television.
0:24:16 > 0:24:19But my parents brought a lot of Bollywood movies into the house.
0:24:19 > 0:24:23Bollywood films are made in Mumbai, India.
0:24:23 > 0:24:28Bollywood gets its name from a mix of Mumbai's old name, Bombay,
0:24:28 > 0:24:31and the centre of America's film industry, Hollywood.
0:24:31 > 0:24:33Bollywood! You get it?
0:24:34 > 0:24:39There was one movie I remember which was called Sholay.
0:24:42 > 0:24:45It kind of had all the typical Indian Bollywood
0:24:45 > 0:24:47elements of a movie, so it had the dancing...
0:24:50 > 0:24:53- ..and the singing... - THEY SING
0:24:56 > 0:24:59..the relationships which played into the plot.
0:25:03 > 0:25:05Bollywood films are distinctive,
0:25:05 > 0:25:08because they stick to a formula of boy meets girl...
0:25:10 > 0:25:14..they fall in love, and they struggle for family approval.
0:25:19 > 0:25:22Romance is big, but there's no snogging.
0:25:24 > 0:25:28I loved all that crazy, loud drama.
0:25:28 > 0:25:30I think it really added a little bit of India
0:25:30 > 0:25:33into my very civilised lifestyle.
0:25:34 > 0:25:38So those were the TV memories of our gourmet gurus.
0:25:38 > 0:25:42But what do they remember most about being 12?
0:25:42 > 0:25:45The big thing about when I was 12,
0:25:45 > 0:25:49I'd just begun to be aware of girls.
0:25:49 > 0:25:53And I'd remember being in love with every girl in my school.
0:25:53 > 0:25:55They were all great!
0:25:55 > 0:25:58The best thing about being 12 was having the optimism.
0:25:58 > 0:26:01I began to be proud about my bald head.
0:26:01 > 0:26:05So rather than hide in a corner, I quite liked being different.
0:26:05 > 0:26:08I quite liked being stuck out like a sore thumb.
0:26:08 > 0:26:11It's much better being noticed than ignored.
0:26:11 > 0:26:16I think 12 was that point in my life where I was still very innocent,
0:26:16 > 0:26:18everything was still very lovely,
0:26:18 > 0:26:22and I do remember it as being a really nice time.
0:26:23 > 0:26:26What I'd like to say to my 12-year-old self is
0:26:26 > 0:26:29stop being obsessed with yourself!
0:26:29 > 0:26:30HE LAUGHS
0:26:30 > 0:26:33Stop worrying what people think about you.
0:26:33 > 0:26:38Consume everything, learn everything, play, keep playing.
0:26:38 > 0:26:41If you follow the things you're fascinated by,
0:26:41 > 0:26:45that's where the most exciting things in your life will come from.
0:26:46 > 0:26:49I would just say go out and live and enjoy being 12
0:26:49 > 0:26:52and don't worry about growing up too fast.
0:26:53 > 0:26:56Just relax, chill out a bit.
0:26:56 > 0:26:58Find out what you want to do.
0:26:58 > 0:27:01And if you don't, then that's also fine.
0:27:01 > 0:27:03The one thing I would say,
0:27:03 > 0:27:06if I could give myself a good talking-to,
0:27:06 > 0:27:09is don't worry about it so much.
0:27:09 > 0:27:12You know, because it's going to be all right
0:27:12 > 0:27:15because all those years on, I'm still here.
0:27:15 > 0:27:19I'm not worrying so much now, and I've wasted a lot of time.
0:27:21 > 0:27:25Enjoy being 12 because when you end up being a grown-up,
0:27:25 > 0:27:27it's not that much fun.
0:27:27 > 0:27:29Being a kid's way more fun.
0:27:29 > 0:27:33So what lessons have we learnt, then?
0:27:33 > 0:27:36Don't invite this guy round your house for karaoke.
0:27:40 > 0:27:43There are easier ways to hitch a ride into town.
0:27:46 > 0:27:50And don't expect to get any sense out of this woman.
0:27:50 > 0:27:55It has the smell of a revving up, smouldering compost heap.
0:27:55 > 0:27:57No, it doesn't.