Episode 5

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0:00:02 > 0:00:06Welcome to Copycats with your hosts, Sam and Mark.

0:00:06 > 0:00:10And today's Copycats are Fergus's team from Swansea

0:00:10 > 0:00:13and Katie's team from Gateshead.

0:00:25 > 0:00:29- BOTH: Hello! - And welcome to Copycats,

0:00:29 > 0:00:33- the game show where copying is good. - Sam, I've had another idea.

0:00:33 > 0:00:36- Not another one!- It's foolproof.

0:00:36 > 0:00:41We, my friend, are going to open up our very first Copycats pet shop.

0:00:41 > 0:00:45- A pet shop?- Yeah.- You don't know anything about animals.- Aha!

0:00:45 > 0:00:47That's where the plan comes in.

0:00:47 > 0:00:51We'll clone one cat, then sell it over and over. We'll make a fortune.

0:00:51 > 0:00:55- Clone a cat? Do you know anything about cloning?- No.

0:00:55 > 0:01:00- Do you know anything about cats?- No. - Do you know what planet you're on?

0:01:00 > 0:01:04- Don't answer. Shall we meet today's teams?- Yeah!

0:01:09 > 0:01:14- Fergus! How are you doing? - Fine, thanks.- Good. Are you excited?

0:01:14 > 0:01:17- Yeah. It's amazing.- Nice one!

0:01:17 > 0:01:21- Team, you all excited?- ALL: Yeah! - Ready and raring?- Yeah!

0:01:21 > 0:01:25Beautiful! Before we go any further, we want to know you better.

0:01:25 > 0:01:30We're nice like that. So we'll look at your audition tape.

0:01:30 > 0:01:34This is the reason you guys are on Copycats.

0:01:37 > 0:01:41We'll have so much fun on the show!

0:01:41 > 0:01:42Eeee!

0:01:46 > 0:01:48Nice!

0:01:48 > 0:01:53The best of luck for today. It's Fergus's team!

0:01:55 > 0:01:58Not bad. We've got Katie's team.

0:01:58 > 0:02:02- Bring it on! Yes! Everybody good? - ALL: Yes!- Looking forward to it?

0:02:02 > 0:02:08- Looking forward to seeing your audition tape?- No!- Sorry!

0:02:08 > 0:02:11I love school, which is a bit odd.

0:02:11 > 0:02:13There you go.

0:02:13 > 0:02:17I can do the splits, but not as good as Katie.

0:02:17 > 0:02:21# The hills are alive... #

0:02:23 > 0:02:29Another very, very talented team. Katie's team, everyone.

0:02:32 > 0:02:36All right. Our teams are ready to start copying.

0:02:36 > 0:02:42They take turns to copy pictures, actions and musical genius.

0:02:42 > 0:02:47To get as many points as possible, each team faces a Copycat Challenge

0:02:47 > 0:02:51and the chance to win the ultimate prize - the Copycats trophy!

0:02:51 > 0:02:54AUDIENCE: Ooooh!

0:02:54 > 0:02:56- Oh, it's good.- No expense spent.

0:02:56 > 0:03:02We tossed a coin and Fergus's team play first. Let's play Copycats!

0:03:07 > 0:03:11I hope you've brushed up on your artistic skills.

0:03:11 > 0:03:16It's time for Quick On The Draw. Lawrence, choose from three cards.

0:03:16 > 0:03:20You then have 10 seconds to draw what's on the card for Fergus

0:03:20 > 0:03:24- and so on down the line. How is your drawing?- Average! We'll be fine.

0:03:24 > 0:03:27That's what we like. Positive.

0:03:27 > 0:03:32There's a maximum of 50 points to be won, but as we go down the line

0:03:32 > 0:03:37- you lose 10 points for every answer. Copycats, are you ready?- Yeah!

0:03:37 > 0:03:40Let's close the doors!

0:03:43 > 0:03:46OK, Lawrence. Yellow, pink or blue?

0:03:46 > 0:03:49- Aw, pink's my favourite.- Do it!

0:03:49 > 0:03:52Ho ho ho...OK! All right.

0:03:52 > 0:03:56- Think you can draw that?- Yeah. - Here we go.

0:03:56 > 0:03:58Best of luck. Ready, steady, draw!

0:04:08 > 0:04:12All right, Fergus. Your turn. Good drawing.

0:04:12 > 0:04:1610 seconds is not a long time. Get as much detail as you can.

0:04:21 > 0:04:23Time's up. It's your turn.

0:04:32 > 0:04:35Morgan, your turn.

0:04:45 > 0:04:48Stewart, go for it, mate.

0:04:57 > 0:05:01Time's up! Stop drawing! OK, good.

0:05:01 > 0:05:05Good. Not bad at all. We're playing for 50 points. Evan,

0:05:05 > 0:05:09- what do you reckon it is? - Tap water?- You're so close,

0:05:09 > 0:05:14but we need the object, so we need to be a little bit more specific.

0:05:14 > 0:05:19Sorry, Evan. For 40 points, open the door, please. Stewart?

0:05:19 > 0:05:24- Is it a dripping tap? - I'm going to give you that! Yay!

0:05:25 > 0:05:27Very good.

0:05:27 > 0:05:32Very good. Nice work, Lawrence. Excellent. Nice one, well done.

0:05:32 > 0:05:35You get yourselves 40 points.

0:05:42 > 0:05:46OK, Christine. I've got two cards - a yellow one, or gold,

0:05:46 > 0:05:50- and the blue one.- I'll take the gold one.- Have a look at that.

0:05:51 > 0:05:54- Got that?- Yeah.- You look confident.

0:05:54 > 0:05:58All right. Good luck to you. Ready, steady, draw!

0:05:58 > 0:06:00Open the doors.

0:06:07 > 0:06:10Time to spare as well! All right!

0:06:20 > 0:06:23OK. Try and use all your time.

0:06:29 > 0:06:31Alex is nodding. Always a good sign.

0:06:32 > 0:06:34OK.

0:06:44 > 0:06:46OK, great.

0:06:57 > 0:06:59Stop drawing!

0:07:00 > 0:07:05All right. For a maximum 50 points, any idea what Rob has drawn?

0:07:05 > 0:07:08- Is it a lemon?- Ahhh!

0:07:08 > 0:07:12It is not a lemon. OK, let's open the door.

0:07:12 > 0:07:15Rob, for 40 points, what is it?

0:07:15 > 0:07:20- A strawberry.- It's a strawberry! Yes! Get in there!

0:07:22 > 0:07:25You did really well. Great start.

0:07:25 > 0:07:29Katie's team get 40 points. Yes!

0:07:32 > 0:07:39All right, so Fergus's team gave themselves a big tap on the back.

0:07:39 > 0:07:44- Good. And was Katie's team's drawing good or berry good?- Aha!- Excellent.

0:07:44 > 0:07:48Let's look at the scores. Mr D, what could they be?

0:07:48 > 0:07:51After Quick On The Draw...

0:07:58 > 0:08:02- Could not be closer. - Yeah. Neck and neck. Interesting.

0:08:02 > 0:08:06The next game will test their skill, nerve and determination.

0:08:06 > 0:08:11- This is the Copycats Challenge. - As Fergus's team won the toss,

0:08:11 > 0:08:16- they will go first.- Katie's team, we are going to send you off,

0:08:16 > 0:08:20- but you are coming back. Say goodbye.- Bye, Katie's team!

0:08:20 > 0:08:23Go and get some cordial!

0:08:23 > 0:08:27- Or some kind of pop drink. - Yeah, fizzy pop. Excellent.

0:08:27 > 0:08:31Now, Fergus, you need to select three people to take part

0:08:31 > 0:08:36in the Copycats Challenge. First, Mr D, what's in store?

0:08:36 > 0:08:41The Maze. The Maze is divided into three parts.

0:08:41 > 0:08:44Each segment contains a ball.

0:08:44 > 0:08:48Tilt the game to get the balls through the maze and into the holes.

0:08:48 > 0:08:5240 points will be awarded for each segment completed.

0:08:59 > 0:09:03Best of luck, guys. In three, two, one, play!

0:09:03 > 0:09:08Off we go. 40 points for each segment completed.

0:09:08 > 0:09:11It's Lawrence's section first.

0:09:11 > 0:09:14He's giving some advice on how to do this.

0:09:14 > 0:09:18He's best placed to see where the ball is.

0:09:18 > 0:09:22Fergus licking his lips. That's almost in!

0:09:22 > 0:09:27Brilliantly done! Next, it's Morgan's segment.

0:09:29 > 0:09:33Gently does it, guys. Gently does it.

0:09:33 > 0:09:38That's going through as well. This is very quick.

0:09:38 > 0:09:42They're almost in the centre. Straight in!

0:09:43 > 0:09:47Brilliantly done. There are some dead ends,

0:09:47 > 0:09:51some blind alleys. They waste valuable time.

0:09:51 > 0:09:56Just Fergus's section to go, then. It's almost in the middle.

0:09:56 > 0:10:00Quickly, guys! That was the wrong way!

0:10:00 > 0:10:04Quickly! Time's running out!

0:10:04 > 0:10:06Ohh!

0:10:06 > 0:10:11Come back, Fergus. Well done, guys. You got yourselves two balls there.

0:10:11 > 0:10:15We'll add those to your total after the music round.

0:10:15 > 0:10:19Katie's team still need to face the Copycats Challenge.

0:10:19 > 0:10:23These points could make all the difference. Nice work, team.

0:10:30 > 0:10:35All right! Welcome back, Katie's team. Let's play Mime Time.

0:10:35 > 0:10:39I've got three cards. You'll pick one.

0:10:39 > 0:10:43Then you have 10 seconds to mime what's on it to Kelly.

0:10:43 > 0:10:48- And so on down the line. Any good at miming?- Mm-hm.

0:10:48 > 0:10:51Well, you did that without moving your lips!

0:10:51 > 0:10:56We are looking for silent performances. OK? Fantastic.

0:10:56 > 0:11:00There's a maximum of 50 points to be won.

0:11:00 > 0:11:05- Copycats, are you ready?- Yes. - Let's close the doors!

0:11:09 > 0:11:15OK, Katie. I've got yellowy-gold, a bluey and a pinky.

0:11:15 > 0:11:19- What would you like?- Blue. - Blue. Have a look at that.

0:11:19 > 0:11:22- Yeah?- Yep.- All right. Brilliant.

0:11:22 > 0:11:28Best of luck to you. Ready, steady, mime! Open the door.

0:11:36 > 0:11:38Time to spare. Go on, Kelly.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50OK. Go on, Alex.

0:12:01 > 0:12:03OK.

0:12:07 > 0:12:10Very good.

0:12:12 > 0:12:13OK, Erin.

0:12:24 > 0:12:26OK, stop!

0:12:29 > 0:12:34OK, Christine, for 50 points, any idea what Erin was doing there?

0:12:34 > 0:12:39- She was scoring a goal. - She was scoring a goal! Yeah!

0:12:42 > 0:12:46Fantastic. That means that you are doing very, very well.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49You get 50 points this time. Yes!

0:12:49 > 0:12:51Get in there!

0:12:56 > 0:13:00- OK, Fergus, I've got yellow and pink left.- I'll go for that.

0:13:00 > 0:13:05- Yellow one. Take a look. Reckon you can mime it?- Yeah.- Nice one.

0:13:05 > 0:13:10You've got 10 seconds. Best of luck. Ready, steady, mime!

0:13:18 > 0:13:20Nice miming. Sally, your turn.

0:13:30 > 0:13:33OK, Morgan, go for it.

0:13:43 > 0:13:45OK, Stewart...

0:13:54 > 0:13:57OK, Evan, your turn, mate.

0:14:07 > 0:14:09Time's up! Stop miming!

0:14:11 > 0:14:16- All right, Lawrence. For 50 points. - Were you riding a mountain bike?

0:14:16 > 0:14:19I'm going to give you that! Yay!

0:14:23 > 0:14:27It was, in fact, riding a bike, so yeah,

0:14:27 > 0:14:29you went more specific.

0:14:29 > 0:14:33You got yourselves 50 points. Awesome

0:14:37 > 0:14:42All right, so after Mime Time, are Katie's team in the Premiership?

0:14:42 > 0:14:47And have Fergus's team passed their cycling proficiency test?

0:14:47 > 0:14:50The scores - Mr D, what can they be?

0:14:50 > 0:14:54Sam, after Mime Time:

0:15:01 > 0:15:05- There you are.- Wowzers! - I'm smelling a close one.- Big time!

0:15:05 > 0:15:11Time to get serious as Katie's team must face the Copycats Challenge.

0:15:11 > 0:15:15Fergus's team scored some important points, but did they do enough?

0:15:15 > 0:15:18Only time will tell.

0:15:18 > 0:15:23Now Katie can add crucial points to her overall score. Are you ready?

0:15:24 > 0:15:28- She's timid, but she's ready. - Good. I think she is ready.

0:15:28 > 0:15:33Fergus's team, time to leave for a bit. Go and have a siesta.

0:15:33 > 0:15:37See you later! The results of the challenge will be revealed

0:15:37 > 0:15:43at the end of the music round. The extra points may be vital.

0:15:43 > 0:15:48Katie, you have to pick three people to face the Copycats Challenge.

0:15:48 > 0:15:52First, what's in store for you. Mr D, tell us.

0:15:52 > 0:15:57The Maze. As before, the Maze is divided into three parts.

0:15:57 > 0:16:01Each segment contains a ball. Tilt the game to get them

0:16:01 > 0:16:06into the holes at the centre. 40 points will be awarded

0:16:06 > 0:16:09for each segment completed.

0:16:16 > 0:16:19OK. Three, two, one. Play!

0:16:19 > 0:16:23There's not a lot of time. You have to move quickly.

0:16:23 > 0:16:29Co-ordination, concentration and it helps if you talk.

0:16:29 > 0:16:32Alex's segment to start with.

0:16:32 > 0:16:37She's best placed to see the ball. That's quick!

0:16:37 > 0:16:40Excellent! ..It's in!

0:16:40 > 0:16:44We move to Katie, team captain. Katie's segment, the blue segment.

0:16:46 > 0:16:49Move quickly now. Forward.

0:16:50 > 0:16:53That's a long route round.

0:16:53 > 0:16:57The gap is right there. Excellent. Now we're moving.

0:16:57 > 0:17:01Almost at the centre. That's it.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04Now forwards... Yes!

0:17:04 > 0:17:09Excellent. Now it's Rob's segment, the yellow segment.

0:17:09 > 0:17:14Come on, guys. Only 10 seconds left!

0:17:14 > 0:17:19Not as quick as the first team. Not far away. Quickly as you can!

0:17:19 > 0:17:23- Ohh!- So close! Oh, unlucky! - Come on over, Rob.

0:17:26 > 0:17:29You did well there. You happy with that?

0:17:29 > 0:17:34Only one more round to play before we add these points to your total.

0:17:34 > 0:17:39We like to keep you guessing here! Round of applause for Katie's team.

0:17:45 > 0:17:50Welcome to the Music Round. Sally, all you have to do

0:17:50 > 0:17:55is pick a well-known tune, then recreate it with the Copycats Kazoo.

0:17:55 > 0:17:58PLAYS TUNE

0:18:00 > 0:18:04- Home and Away. Like that? Did you recognise that?- I got that.

0:18:04 > 0:18:09Excellent. Morgan, you need to listen very carefully.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11You have to pass it down the line.

0:18:11 > 0:18:16There's a maximum of 50 points. Perfect playing gets perfect points.

0:18:16 > 0:18:22All except Sally put your headphones on so you don't hear the song.

0:18:23 > 0:18:27All right, rocking out - love it!

0:18:27 > 0:18:31Copycats are ready. Let's close the doors!

0:18:33 > 0:18:37- Sally, how's your kazoo playing? - It's pretty good.

0:18:37 > 0:18:40- I've been practising.- Good!

0:18:40 > 0:18:44We've got three tunes - gold, pink and blue.

0:18:44 > 0:18:47- I'm going to go for gold.- Take it!

0:18:47 > 0:18:50- I've never heard it before.- Really?!

0:18:50 > 0:18:56- Don't worry. We will play it, so get the melody in your head.- OK.

0:18:56 > 0:18:59# Cos you give me something

0:18:59 > 0:19:04- # That makes me scared all right... # - Yes! Love James Morrison. Awesome.

0:19:04 > 0:19:09- Best of luck. Remember it now?- Yes. - OK, good luck. 10 seconds.

0:19:09 > 0:19:11Ready, steady, play!

0:19:12 > 0:19:15PLAYS THE TUNE

0:19:21 > 0:19:23That was good. Morgan, your turn.

0:19:25 > 0:19:28PLAYS SHAKIER VERSION

0:19:32 > 0:19:35Right. Stewart, your turn.

0:19:37 > 0:19:40PLAYS JAZZY VERSION

0:19:45 > 0:19:47Wow! Evan, your turn.

0:19:49 > 0:19:52PLAYS FAINTLY

0:19:59 > 0:20:01Lawrence, your turn.

0:20:01 > 0:20:04PLAYS DIFFERENT TUNE

0:20:11 > 0:20:13Time's up! Stop playing!

0:20:14 > 0:20:19Brilliant. Fergus, 50 points, what's the answer we're looking for?

0:20:19 > 0:20:23- Don't Stop Believing? - It's not Don't Stop Believing.

0:20:23 > 0:20:28Bless you for having a go! OK, for 40 points. Open the door.

0:20:28 > 0:20:32- Lawrence? - I thought it was Stairway To Heaven.

0:20:32 > 0:20:35A bit of rock! It's not, sadly.

0:20:35 > 0:20:38So we're playing for 30 points. Evan?

0:20:38 > 0:20:40Highway To Hell?

0:20:40 > 0:20:45These are tunes that we're rocking! It's not, sadly.

0:20:45 > 0:20:47For 20 points, Stewart...?

0:20:49 > 0:20:51Is it the Muppets theme tune?

0:20:51 > 0:20:56It's not the Muppets! I wish it was. So we're playing for 10 points.

0:20:56 > 0:21:00Sally did great considering she didn't know the song.

0:21:00 > 0:21:05- Morgan, any idea?- Is it Poker Face by Lady Gaga?- It's not.

0:21:05 > 0:21:11- You tell them, Sally.- You Give Me Something by James Morrison.

0:21:11 > 0:21:18# Cos you give me something That makes me scared... #

0:21:18 > 0:21:22Unfortunately, you don't get any points, but it was entertaining.

0:21:22 > 0:21:25A round of applause!

0:21:30 > 0:21:35- OK, Kelly. Pink or blue? - Pink.- Pink? Have a look.

0:21:35 > 0:21:39- For a girl.- OK. - You know that one?- Yes.

0:21:39 > 0:21:43We'll play it into the studio now. Everyone else will know it as well.

0:21:43 > 0:21:49# Everybody in love Come put your hands up... #

0:21:49 > 0:21:53- Like that, do you?- I do. - Plenty more where that came from!

0:21:53 > 0:21:57All right, brilliant. JLS - Everybody In Love.

0:21:57 > 0:22:02- Got that in your head?- I have. - Good luck. Ready, steady, play!

0:22:02 > 0:22:04Open the door!

0:22:04 > 0:22:06PLAYS TUNE

0:22:12 > 0:22:15OK. Good copying.

0:22:16 > 0:22:19PLAYS FAINTLY

0:22:24 > 0:22:26Fantastic...!

0:22:26 > 0:22:28TUNE IS LOST NOW

0:22:36 > 0:22:40Just play anything. It's good fun, isn't it?

0:22:40 > 0:22:43PLAYS RANDOM TUNE

0:22:48 > 0:22:50Great tune! Come on, Christine.

0:22:50 > 0:22:53- BOLD TUNE - Oh, lovely.

0:22:53 > 0:22:56Lovely tone.

0:23:01 > 0:23:04A little one at the end! Brilliant!

0:23:05 > 0:23:10Now for 50 points, come on. What am I saying "come on" for?!

0:23:10 > 0:23:15- For 50 points...- The Hills Are Alive With The Sound of Music.

0:23:15 > 0:23:19They are, but I didn't hear any music there! It's the wrong answer.

0:23:19 > 0:23:24Let's open the door for 40 points. Christine, what was that?

0:23:24 > 0:23:29- Dancing Queen.- It is not Dancing Queen by ABBA.

0:23:29 > 0:23:31Let's open the door. For 30 points.

0:23:31 > 0:23:34Love Machine by Girls Aloud?

0:23:34 > 0:23:37Great pop tune, but it's wrong.

0:23:37 > 0:23:41- OK, come on, Rob.- I haven't a clue!

0:23:41 > 0:23:46- I'm with you and I've got the card! - Thriller.- Michael Jackson.

0:23:46 > 0:23:52- Great song. It's wrong. OK, 10 points...- Eye of the Tiger?

0:23:52 > 0:23:56Cracking tune, but it's wrong. Kelly, tell everyone.

0:23:56 > 0:24:01- Everybody In Love by JLS. - Of course it was! Let's listen.

0:24:01 > 0:24:05- # Everybody in love... # - Come on, everyone!

0:24:05 > 0:24:10# Everybody in love Come put your hands up... #

0:24:10 > 0:24:15I tell you what, I had great fun, but you get zero points.

0:24:15 > 0:24:18But give them a round of applause!

0:24:20 > 0:24:23After three rounds, it's very close.

0:24:31 > 0:24:33Ooh, very interesting.

0:24:33 > 0:24:39Both teams are tied, but we have scores from the Copycats Challenge.

0:24:39 > 0:24:44Which team amazed us with their skill?

0:24:44 > 0:24:48- And is going to the Copycats ballroom?- OK, the wait is over.

0:24:48 > 0:24:51Both teams got two balls, scoring 80 points each.

0:24:51 > 0:24:56It was a tie, so the fastest team get a bonus 20 points,

0:24:56 > 0:25:01which means the team going through to play for the trophy is...

0:25:01 > 0:25:04HEARTBEAT

0:25:06 > 0:25:09Fergus's team!

0:25:13 > 0:25:18- Katie's team, you did fantastically well. Did you have a good time?- Yes!

0:25:18 > 0:25:22- Give it up for Katie's team! - APPLAUSE

0:25:27 > 0:25:29OK, you've made it this far

0:25:29 > 0:25:34and now it's time to compete for the fabulous, limited edition

0:25:34 > 0:25:36Copycats trophy!

0:25:36 > 0:25:39AUDIENCE: Oooh!

0:25:39 > 0:25:43- Oh, yeah!- It's wobbly. - And here it is -

0:25:43 > 0:25:47the ball room. Fergus, who have you chosen to take part?

0:25:47 > 0:25:52My mum didn't want to do it, so I will. And my brother Evan

0:25:52 > 0:25:55- and Stewart.- Excellent.

0:25:55 > 0:26:00Let's look at what you have to do to win this bad boy. ..Don't touch.

0:26:00 > 0:26:04The ball room. Players each have a colour.

0:26:04 > 0:26:08They must catch 12 of their colour and deposit them in the cylinders

0:26:08 > 0:26:11before time runs out. Good luck.

0:26:14 > 0:26:19Right, if you're ready. In three, two, one - blast the balls!

0:26:19 > 0:26:23Into the air go the balls! Fergus is catching blue ones,

0:26:23 > 0:26:28Evan has the yellow balls and Stewart the red.

0:26:28 > 0:26:32Now come on, guys. You haven't got long.

0:26:32 > 0:26:37You cannot pick them off the floor. You've got to catch them in the air.

0:26:37 > 0:26:39Not as easy as you might think.

0:26:39 > 0:26:44Guys, the cylinders are at the front! That's it. Well done.

0:26:44 > 0:26:48- Stewart's doing well.- Yes! - Catching a few more.

0:26:48 > 0:26:53A lot of encouragement from mum Sally. She's not short of advice.

0:26:53 > 0:26:57She's very loud, though! Level pegging.

0:26:57 > 0:27:01Doing very well on all fronts.

0:27:01 > 0:27:04Yellow almost there.

0:27:04 > 0:27:08Only 16 seconds, guys. Come on!

0:27:08 > 0:27:12Quickly as you can. Another yellow, another blue.

0:27:12 > 0:27:17Very good going. Red and yellow are almost there.

0:27:17 > 0:27:20Blue almost... Oh! Have we done it?

0:27:26 > 0:27:30Team, you did get enough red balls.

0:27:30 > 0:27:33You did get enough yellow balls.

0:27:33 > 0:27:36And you did get enough blue balls!

0:27:39 > 0:27:44Guys, you are today's Copycats champions!

0:27:46 > 0:27:52- I see what you did there!- See it? - I liked that.- We knew you'd won!

0:27:52 > 0:27:57- Ohh, brilliant. We'll see you next time on Copycats.- Bye!- Bye!

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