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0:00:13 > 0:00:15- Welcome to us - live on a Wednesday evening.

0:00:16 > 0:00:17- Tonight on Mwy o Sgorio...

0:00:18 > 0:00:21- ..we have one of the best strikers - to ever pull on a Welsh shirt.

0:00:22 > 0:00:26- He's also worn the famous colours - of Arsenal, West Ham and Celtic.

0:00:26 > 0:00:28- He's as much of a hero in Scotland - as he is here.

0:00:29 > 0:00:30- Who am I talking about?

0:00:31 > 0:00:33- Here's Johnny!

0:00:40 > 0:00:42- Speed. Hartson!

0:00:44 > 0:00:47- John Hartson with another goal - for Wales!

0:00:51 > 0:00:53- In towards Hartson!

0:00:55 > 0:00:58- Nobody deserves it - as much as he does.

0:00:59 > 0:01:01- Welcome to the big man, - John Hartson.

0:01:01 > 0:01:04- And to an even bigger one, - Owain Tudur Jones!

0:01:05 > 0:01:07- Great to have you here.

0:01:08 > 0:01:11- Great memories of you - playing for Wales.

0:01:13 > 0:01:18- My biggest honour in football - was to win 50 caps for Wales.

0:01:24 > 0:01:25- I have some great memories.

0:01:29 > 0:01:31- We almost got to a major tournament.

0:01:32 > 0:01:34- Not as good as the class of 2016.

0:01:35 > 0:01:38- The Old Firm derby - takes place this weekend.

0:01:38 > 0:01:41- Arsene Wenger and Arsenal.

0:01:42 > 0:01:44- There's also - Ryan Giggs and Wales.

0:01:44 > 0:01:49- Before that, a special chat with a - current Welsh player, Chris Gunter.

0:01:50 > 0:01:54- Elis James went to meet him and we - start by taking a look back in time.

0:01:55 > 0:01:58- I'm here at the Madejski Stadium, - home of Reading FC.

0:01:59 > 0:02:03- I have the honour of meeting - one of my favourite players ever...

0:02:03 > 0:02:05- ..Mr Chris Gunter.

0:02:05 > 0:02:10- Now then, Chris, do you think - playing international football...

0:02:10 > 0:02:13- ..means more to you - than other footballers?

0:02:13 > 0:02:14- I really appreciate it.

0:02:15 > 0:02:19- I've said before, not just myself - but in terms of the feeling...

0:02:20 > 0:02:24- ..we get as a team from the fans - and the country at the minute.

0:02:24 > 0:02:28- It's something - I've never experienced.

0:02:28 > 0:02:30- It's a very powerful thing.

0:02:30 > 0:02:33- Do you, as a player, - drift back to the Euros?

0:02:33 > 0:02:35- I'm not one to overly look back.

0:02:35 > 0:02:37- Oh, I am.

0:02:37 > 0:02:41- Does it not make it worse - because you almost want to go back?

0:02:41 > 0:02:45- I still sometimes say it to Aaron - when I'm speaking to him...

0:02:46 > 0:02:48- ..life was a lot easier in Dinard.

0:02:49 > 0:02:52- It was just this wave. - No real responsibility.

0:02:52 > 0:02:55- You were away from home, - everything was done for you.

0:02:56 > 0:03:00- Our job was to go training - and prepare for these massive games.

0:03:01 > 0:03:05- I think that the chin up, that's - my favourite photo of all time.

0:03:05 > 0:03:08- Daughter and family, - not withstanding.

0:03:09 > 0:03:11- Is it not, no?

0:03:12 > 0:03:14- I think that is our Gazza's tears.

0:03:15 > 0:03:17- That for me sums up - the tournament...

0:03:17 > 0:03:21- ..almost as much, - if not more, as the goals.

0:03:21 > 0:03:24- When you did it, - did you have any inkling?

0:03:24 > 0:03:27- No, because obviously - when the goal went in...

0:03:28 > 0:03:31- ..and you knew - we were probably going to lose...

0:03:31 > 0:03:33- ..and stuff...

0:03:34 > 0:03:38- ..that felt like the end of - the world at that particular time.

0:03:39 > 0:03:44- Probably me thinking if I was in the - stand and saw a player doing that...

0:03:44 > 0:03:49- ..if the player is OK, if he's - telling me to keep my head up...

0:03:50 > 0:03:54- ..I just felt that for that game, - we'd worked too hard...

0:03:54 > 0:03:59- ..for the last two years, - four years, six years, to qualify...

0:03:59 > 0:04:03- ..for it all to be about England - and the England game.

0:04:03 > 0:04:07- It was bigger than that for us, - we were in a major tournament.

0:04:07 > 0:04:12- Yeah, we've lost but if we go and - beat Russia, we're going through.

0:04:12 > 0:04:15- I don't think - that was a Welsh thing.

0:04:15 > 0:04:18- That was the media - in terms of Wales v England.

0:04:18 > 0:04:22- We'd worked too hard - to let one defeat to England...

0:04:22 > 0:04:26- ..spoil our experience and - obviously, ultimately, it didn't.

0:04:27 > 0:04:29- Because of that, - the shackles were off us...

0:04:30 > 0:04:32- ..and everyone knows - how we went on to play.

0:04:33 > 0:04:37- If that England last-minute goal - hadn't have happened...

0:04:38 > 0:04:41- ..I'm not sure we'd have done - as well as we could have.

0:04:41 > 0:04:45- At the time, - you think it's the end of the world.

0:04:46 > 0:04:50- Looking back, maybe it was - one of the best things...

0:04:50 > 0:04:52- ..that did happen for us.

0:04:55 > 0:04:58- Chris Gunter talking to Elis James.

0:05:00 > 0:05:04- Chris Gunter - has a great record for Wales.

0:05:09 > 0:05:13- Chris Gunter has 85 caps - which is level with Gary Speed.

0:05:13 > 0:05:15- Gunter is only 28 years of age.

0:05:17 > 0:05:18- He speaks ever so well.

0:05:21 > 0:05:24- He is criticized - but he always turns up.

0:05:32 > 0:05:34- No one has been able to - take his place.

0:05:35 > 0:05:37- He will break all records.

0:05:38 > 0:05:43- Some players like Gunter have an - amazing relationship with the fans.

0:05:43 > 0:05:47- John is another who has always - been a favourite with the fans.

0:05:48 > 0:05:51- Scoring in a Old Firm match - certainly helps!

0:05:53 > 0:05:55- Did you enjoy that relationship?

0:05:58 > 0:05:59- It was very important to me.

0:06:10 > 0:06:13- Scoring a winner made me want - to run to the home fans.

0:06:18 > 0:06:19- The fans love that relationship.

0:06:20 > 0:06:22- Owain, you have played in Scotland.

0:06:23 > 0:06:26- We forget the size - of Celtic Football Club...

0:06:26 > 0:06:28- ..and John's status within it.

0:06:29 > 0:06:32- Celtic and Rangers - are more than football clubs.

0:06:32 > 0:06:34- They are institutions.

0:06:40 > 0:06:43- Walking into Parkhead or Ibrox is - like walking into a museum.

0:06:45 > 0:06:47- I'm sure John won a lot - of games there.

0:06:48 > 0:06:51- Will we see another Hartson - playing for Wales?

0:06:52 > 0:06:55- Here is your son, Joni, - in the U15 team.

0:06:56 > 0:06:58- He is wearing 13.

0:06:59 > 0:07:01- How is he getting on?

0:07:08 > 0:07:11- He's a very good player. He has - to keep on developing.

0:07:22 > 0:07:25- My father told me that Joni is twice - the player I was at that age.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27- He might beat Chris Gunter's record!

0:07:28 > 0:07:31- He is obsessed with football.

0:07:31 > 0:07:38- If he has the right attitude - then he has half a chance.

0:07:38 > 0:07:39- He absolutely loves the game.

0:07:42 > 0:07:43- I am very very proud.

0:07:44 > 0:07:49- February's Goal of the Month now. - John will be choosing the winner.

0:07:49 > 0:07:52- It's a tough job this month.

0:07:53 > 0:07:57- There's room on the far side - for Lewis Short.

0:07:58 > 0:08:02- Short. Short! - What a goal from Lewis Short.

0:08:03 > 0:08:07- Mudimu. He curls it beautifully - into the back of the net.

0:08:10 > 0:08:15- Damien Allen. That's some corner - kick and Walker has buried it.

0:08:15 > 0:08:18- Declan Walker with the volley.

0:08:18 > 0:08:22- Rittenberg. It's a race - between Rittenberg and James.

0:08:23 > 0:08:28- Rittenberg is stronger than James. - What a goal from Dean Rittenberg.

0:08:28 > 0:08:32- Cotterill. Barry have - so many skilful players.

0:08:32 > 0:08:34- Cotterill!

0:08:37 > 0:08:41- Here's John Owen. - He takes it on himself.

0:08:41 > 0:08:43- He curls his shot. What a goal.

0:08:43 > 0:08:46- Great goal from John Owen.

0:08:47 > 0:08:50- Brobbel. He goes himself. Brobbel.

0:08:51 > 0:08:53- A goal of the highest quality.

0:08:55 > 0:08:58- A loose pass straight to Les Davies.

0:08:59 > 0:09:03- Davies with the shot - straight to the top corner.

0:09:07 > 0:09:12- Some cracking goals there but John, - you have to choose the winner.

0:09:16 > 0:09:18- I'm going for Les Davies.

0:09:18 > 0:09:21- I remember him playing for Bangor.

0:09:22 > 0:09:24- I used to love watching him.

0:09:32 > 0:09:34- He also scored goals for Bala Town.

0:09:39 > 0:09:42- As soon as that left his boots, - it was in the top corner.

0:09:45 > 0:09:51- He used to do that - almost every week.

0:09:51 > 0:09:58- That was the best of a - good bunch of goals.

0:09:58 > 0:10:00- Let's turn our attention to Swansea.

0:10:01 > 0:10:05- Carlos Carvalhal - has certainly made a difference.

0:10:05 > 0:10:08- They have stopped conceding.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16- Swansea are playing with - a free spirit.

0:10:20 > 0:10:23- They have an excellent home - record under the new manager.

0:10:24 > 0:10:25- There is still a lot to do.

0:10:27 > 0:10:31- Swansea are only three points from - Stoke, who are in the bottom three.

0:10:32 > 0:10:36- Swansea have the knack - of picking up points at the moment.

0:10:39 > 0:10:41- I think they need three more wins.

0:10:42 > 0:10:45- They are still in the FA Cup - and will play Tottenham.

0:10:46 > 0:10:50- If they can win the Cup and stay up - it would be a great season!

0:10:52 > 0:10:54- Cardiff won last night as well.

0:10:55 > 0:10:59- Wales' women have been taking part - in the Cyprus Cup.

0:10:59 > 0:11:04- The game finished 1-1 with Kayleigh - Green scoring for Wales.

0:11:04 > 0:11:08- Wales finished eighth after losing - on penalties to Austria.

0:11:08 > 0:11:10- Finland 0-1 Wales

0:11:11 > 0:11:13- Switzerland 0-0 Wales

0:11:13 > 0:11:14- Wales 0-3 Italy

0:11:15 > 0:11:18- All their opponents - were ranked higher than Wales.

0:11:23 > 0:11:25- This is what she had to say - on social media.

0:11:26 > 0:11:29- "Six months ago today - I had my little Charlie boy."

0:11:29 > 0:11:32- "Today I started my first - international since."

0:11:32 > 0:11:36- Stay tuned for more from Chris - Gunter and Welsh Cup action.

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0:12:15 > 0:12:18- Despite losing, - Penydarren were celebrating.

0:12:18 > 0:12:19- This weekend...

0:12:20 > 0:12:24- ..they're taking on Conwy Borough - in the FAW Trophy semi-final.

0:12:24 > 0:12:29- All the other quarter-finals were - played last night due to the snow.

0:12:29 > 0:12:33- Before the match, - I predicted this on Twitter.

0:12:39 > 0:12:41- I predicted all the winners.

0:12:41 > 0:12:43- Mystic Mr Ebenezer!

0:12:48 > 0:12:51- Marriott to take the free kick.

0:12:51 > 0:12:55- It's towards Blaine Hudson. - Aeron Edwards is on the far post!

0:12:56 > 0:13:01- We haven't played two minutes yet - but The New Saints are ahead.

0:13:01 > 0:13:03- Bakare to take the free kick!

0:13:03 > 0:13:05- It's in the back of the net.

0:13:09 > 0:13:14- Andy Owens goes down in the box - under pressure from Saunders.

0:13:17 > 0:13:19- Callum Morris!

0:13:20 > 0:13:22- Connah's Quay are ahead.

0:13:23 > 0:13:27- Halfway through the first half, - Young takes the corner!

0:13:27 > 0:13:30- The keeper came for it - but missed the ball.

0:13:31 > 0:13:34- Joe Phillips puts Aberystwyth - in front.

0:13:34 > 0:13:37- Melvin with a lovely pass - to John Owen.

0:13:39 > 0:13:42- Owen shoots and it's two - for Aberystwyth.

0:13:43 > 0:13:45- Superb from John Owen.

0:13:47 > 0:13:52- Phillips on the charge - and he sets up Malcolm Melvin!

0:13:53 > 0:13:56- Two goals in as many minutes.

0:13:59 > 0:14:01- On towards Lee Surman.

0:14:01 > 0:14:05- He is the physical presence - up front for Carmarthen.

0:14:05 > 0:14:08- Lewis does brilliantly - and finds Thomas!

0:14:08 > 0:14:10- An excellent goal.

0:14:11 > 0:14:14- Williams' corner is headed out - by Joe Heath.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17- Kershaw lifts the ball back in.

0:14:17 > 0:14:22- It's right under Paddy Rutter's - nose but Neil Mitchell is there.

0:14:22 > 0:14:27- Nick Pratt didn't see that as a foul - and Newtown are ahead.

0:14:27 > 0:14:31- Kieran Mills-Evans clears - as Nick Rushton chases.

0:14:31 > 0:14:34- Rutter has come way off his line.

0:14:34 > 0:14:36- Rushton was first to the ball.

0:14:37 > 0:14:39- Rutter is in trouble.

0:14:39 > 0:14:43- Nick Pratt produces a red card - for the young keeper.

0:14:43 > 0:14:47- Iwan Williams will have to wear - the gloves for the final minutes.

0:14:48 > 0:14:50- All the Llandudno players are up.

0:14:50 > 0:14:52- Will we get some late drama?

0:14:52 > 0:14:56- Williams with the header - but Newtown manage to clear.

0:14:56 > 0:14:58- Who will get to this ball first?

0:14:59 > 0:15:03- Nick Rushton has and it's a race - between him and Toby Jones.

0:15:03 > 0:15:06- Nick Rushton to seal the victory!

0:15:06 > 0:15:09- Newtown are into the semi-final.

0:15:14 > 0:15:19- Here is the draw for the 2017-18 - JD Welsh Cup semi-finals.

0:15:22 > 0:15:27- Aberystwyth will play Newtown - and Bangor take on Connah's Quay.

0:15:29 > 0:15:33- Now then, Owain, - it's getting very interesting!

0:15:39 > 0:15:41- TNS being out changes everything.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49- It's unfortunate for them but it - opens it up for everybody.

0:15:52 > 0:15:57- Bangor City have had the better of - Connah's Quay this season.

0:15:57 > 0:16:02- Aberystwyth or Newtown will be - delighted to get to the final.

0:16:02 > 0:16:05- There is a great opportunity - for all the clubs.

0:16:06 > 0:16:10- Nev Powell has a long history - with the Welsh Cup.

0:16:10 > 0:16:14- This is his seventh semi-final - and he's never lost one.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19- Nev Powell is now with Aberystwyth.

0:16:28 > 0:16:34- I always enjoyed going to - Farrar Road to watch Bangor City.

0:16:34 > 0:16:40- He's been a very successful - manager with the Welsh Cup.

0:16:40 > 0:16:42- He's doing good things in - Aberystwyth now.

0:16:56 > 0:16:59- He lost in the final 20 years ago - and won 10 years ago...

0:16:59 > 0:17:00- ..with Bangor City.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04- Maybe it's something that happens - every 10 years for him.

0:17:04 > 0:17:07- Back now to Chris Gunter - and Elis James.

0:17:07 > 0:17:12- They begin this chat with his first - love, his first club, Cardiff City.

0:17:13 > 0:17:17- When you retire, will you go back to - supporting Cardiff away on a coach?

0:17:17 > 0:17:21- I used to use my birthday money - to buy a season ticket and go away.

0:17:21 > 0:17:25- If you can go away and watch - a team win away, it's the best day.

0:17:26 > 0:17:29- As it went on, it was, - like, if we can score a goal.

0:17:29 > 0:17:33- That was generally, because we - didn't used to win all the time.

0:17:34 > 0:17:37- Have you given any thought - to coaching or management?

0:17:37 > 0:17:42- I'm going to do my coaching badges. - I would like to stay in the game.

0:17:42 > 0:17:46- I wouldn't know what else to do. - It's all I've done.

0:17:46 > 0:17:48- You could drive the coach.

0:17:48 > 0:17:49- For the fans?

0:17:50 > 0:17:51- Gunter's Buses.

0:17:51 > 0:17:53- That would go down well - from Newport.

0:17:54 > 0:17:56- The team have a WhatsApp group.

0:17:56 > 0:18:01- After Ryan was appointed, - did the group go into meltdown?

0:18:01 > 0:18:03- No, for stuff like that - it wouldn't...

0:18:04 > 0:18:07- ..when there's something - quite serious like that.

0:18:08 > 0:18:09- Have you talked to Ryan yet?

0:18:09 > 0:18:11- I spoke to him...

0:18:11 > 0:18:15- ..he called me a couple of days - after he was appointed...

0:18:18 > 0:18:22- It was good to speak to him - and you appreciate the call...

0:18:23 > 0:18:26- ..because, going forward, - he's the man leading us.

0:18:27 > 0:18:31- my debut in one of his last games.

0:18:31 > 0:18:36- I played against him and met him - at different times and stuff.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39- Now that's different, - he's your manager.

0:18:39 > 0:18:44- Was he a hero of yours? You're the - right age to have posters of him.

0:18:44 > 0:18:48- Yea, I mean, when I got - called up for the first time...

0:18:49 > 0:18:53- ..he was the one when you went - to the hotel to first meet up.

0:18:53 > 0:18:57- You were scared and nervous - as a little kid almost...

0:18:57 > 0:18:59- ..but it was like, Ryan Giggs.

0:19:00 > 0:19:04- Yeah, he would have impacted - everyone one of us in the squad.

0:19:04 > 0:19:08- I think you always give - that respect instantly...

0:19:08 > 0:19:10- ..because he is your manager...

0:19:11 > 0:19:16- ..and he is the one that you need to - help you and you need to help him.

0:19:16 > 0:19:18- I mean, he ticks every box.

0:19:18 > 0:19:21- How long does that respect last?

0:19:21 > 0:19:27- A good while. Footballers are good - at buying into what they're in.

0:19:29 > 0:19:32- With the younger boys - coming into the squad...

0:19:32 > 0:19:37- ..like Ethan Ampadu, - Ben Woodburn, David Brooks.

0:19:38 > 0:19:41- They're in the squad - because they're good enough.

0:19:42 > 0:19:44- You don't really need to...

0:19:44 > 0:19:47- I can't go telling Ben - how to shoot from 30 yards.

0:19:48 > 0:19:53- If there's little things that you - can help them with off the pitch...

0:19:53 > 0:19:58- ..but generally, we are still young - and there's a lot more to come.

0:19:59 > 0:20:04- That Ireland evening was one - of the worst but it wasn't the end.

0:20:07 > 0:20:10- I think that's the sense - from everyone.

0:20:10 > 0:20:14- Because we had the Euros - and we failed to qualify...

0:20:14 > 0:20:18- ..I think, from the outside, - people are thinking...

0:20:18 > 0:20:21- ..that Welsh thing - has been and gone.

0:20:21 > 0:20:24- We know that that - is a load of nonsense.

0:20:25 > 0:20:28- We're still completely on - this upward path.

0:20:29 > 0:20:32- That's the pleasing thing to know...

0:20:33 > 0:20:36- ..that we have that - for a good few years yet.

0:20:37 > 0:20:41- It's been an absolute pleasure, - lovely to meet you.

0:20:43 > 0:20:48- Thanks to Elis James - for speaking with Chris Gunter.

0:20:48 > 0:20:53- Chris Gunter says it's not - the end of the journey for Wales.

0:20:59 > 0:21:01- Ryan Giggs's first squad - will be interesting.

0:21:09 > 0:21:11- How important will that squad be?

0:21:19 > 0:21:22- I hope the squad can stay - together and stick together.

0:21:26 > 0:21:30- I won't be surprised if some of the - more experienced players...

0:21:30 > 0:21:32- ..might not feel part of - their future.

0:21:32 > 0:21:33- They might retire.

0:21:45 > 0:21:48- It happens quite often when new - manager's come in.

0:21:48 > 0:21:51- Some players just don't feel that - they belong any more.

0:21:56 > 0:21:58- I think two or three players - will call it a day.

0:21:59 > 0:22:05- Ashley Williams has come in - for a lot of stick recently.

0:22:05 > 0:22:09- He was sent off for - Everton last weekend.

0:22:14 > 0:22:20- He is having a tough time - at the moment.

0:22:20 > 0:22:29- It's only natural people - are talking about him.

0:22:29 > 0:22:32- He's 33 and his best days - might be behind him.

0:22:32 > 0:22:34- I think he has one more - campaign in him for Wales.

0:22:35 > 0:22:37- The younger players must push him.

0:22:39 > 0:22:41- You know Ryan Giggs.

0:22:49 > 0:22:53- It's impossible to know what he'll - be like as a new manager.

0:22:58 > 0:23:00- I wanted to congratulate him - when he got the job.

0:23:04 > 0:23:08- It was always a job that he would be - the number one choice for.

0:23:11 > 0:23:13- It's important that everybody - is seen to back him.

0:23:17 > 0:23:19- It will depend on results - at the end of the day.

0:23:22 > 0:23:25- Chris Coleman had a very - poor start as manager.

0:23:27 > 0:23:29- It was the same with Gary Speed.

0:23:31 > 0:23:33- Football is always about winning.

0:23:35 > 0:23:36- I hope he does very well.

0:23:42 > 0:23:45- Our live football this weekend - is on a Saturday night.

0:23:46 > 0:23:49- Cardiff Met welcome The New Saints - to the capital.

0:23:49 > 0:23:53- Live coverage starts at 6.45pm - with the kick-off at 7.00pm

0:23:53 > 0:23:55- Until then, goodnight.

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