Episode 12

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0:00:09 > 0:00:11CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:00:11 > 0:00:15Hello and welcome to Debatable, where today one player must answer

0:00:15 > 0:00:18a series of tricky questions to try to walk away with

0:00:18 > 0:00:23a jackpot of over £3,000, but as always, they ain't on their own.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25They will have a panel of well-known faces debating their way to

0:00:25 > 0:00:30the answers. Will they be all talk and no action? That's debatable.

0:00:30 > 0:00:31So let's meet them.

0:00:31 > 0:00:34Chin-wagging their way to the answers today,

0:00:34 > 0:00:36we have actress Sunetra Sarker,

0:00:36 > 0:00:41we have writer Germaine Greer and comedian Russell Kane.

0:00:41 > 0:00:43CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:00:45 > 0:00:47Germaine, thanks for joining us, and of course,

0:00:47 > 0:00:51welcome back to Sunetra and to Russell, regulars who we've brought

0:00:51 > 0:00:55back because of their magnificent performances on Series One.

0:00:55 > 0:00:58This may be tempting fate, Russell, but is this the most

0:00:58 > 0:01:02overqualified panel that we have ever had for this job?

0:01:02 > 0:01:04I don't think you can be overqualified.

0:01:04 > 0:01:07That is the fiendish thing about Debatable, any topic could come up.

0:01:07 > 0:01:11It's very true. However, you are a first-class graduate in English.

0:01:11 > 0:01:13Well, I started English

0:01:13 > 0:01:15and I went off into creative writing at the end...

0:01:15 > 0:01:18I love the way you've mimed creative writing for us there on the desk.

0:01:18 > 0:01:19I was rejected the first time, though.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21Like, "Just stay on the literature course."

0:01:21 > 0:01:24And they let me on in the end and I proved myself.

0:01:24 > 0:01:27Sunetra, you speak fluent Bengali and you studied French and business.

0:01:27 > 0:01:28This is true.

0:01:28 > 0:01:31Business side is the one that I'm probably most keen on...

0:01:31 > 0:01:33I really hoped I'd end up on The Apprentice,

0:01:33 > 0:01:35but Debatable's all right for today!

0:01:35 > 0:01:37And in our centre chair,

0:01:37 > 0:01:40overqualified probably doesn't cover it.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43I mean, you have the degree in French and English literature,

0:01:43 > 0:01:45then you have the MA in romantic poetry,

0:01:45 > 0:01:48then you have the PhD at Cambridge in English literature.

0:01:48 > 0:01:53You've probably forgotten more than the other panellists can remember.

0:01:53 > 0:01:54LAUGHTER

0:01:54 > 0:01:57That's probably true, but it doesn't do me any credit.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59The weirdest thing about being overqualified is I've been

0:01:59 > 0:02:02given very strange honorary degrees.

0:02:02 > 0:02:06I actually have a doctorate in civil laws from Melbourne University.

0:02:06 > 0:02:08It's what you give prime ministers.

0:02:08 > 0:02:12I think they just got it wrong, or they hadn't done it very often.

0:02:12 > 0:02:14They just... And then I've got a DLit as well from Sydney

0:02:14 > 0:02:16- and it just goes on like this.

0:02:16 > 0:02:19OK, that is the panel. Let's meet today's contestant,

0:02:19 > 0:02:21it is Hannah from Llanelli.

0:02:21 > 0:02:24CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:02:24 > 0:02:27- That was quite sprightly done there, Hannah.- I'm excited to be here.

0:02:27 > 0:02:29- A little bit of a spring in your step.- Yes.

0:02:29 > 0:02:30Tell us a little bit about yourself.

0:02:30 > 0:02:33I'm a recent graduate, also English literature,

0:02:33 > 0:02:36so I'm feeling very good about my future career at the moment,

0:02:36 > 0:02:39having heard all that you guys have been up to.

0:02:39 > 0:02:41Talk to us a little bit about the man in your life, Fred.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43Fred, I love Fred.

0:02:43 > 0:02:47He is very large, I spend a lot of time with him.

0:02:47 > 0:02:50He's a van and I'm converting him into a camper van.

0:02:50 > 0:02:52So eventually, I'm going to live with him.

0:02:52 > 0:02:54- Live with him? Live in him! - LAUGHTER

0:02:54 > 0:02:56So, I'm just in the middle of that project,

0:02:56 > 0:02:58it takes up quite a lot of my time, but I'm learning a lot with it.

0:02:58 > 0:03:00So, Hannah, what do you make of today's panel?

0:03:00 > 0:03:03Yeah, I'm super-excited that they're here,

0:03:03 > 0:03:04I'm super-excited that I'm here.

0:03:04 > 0:03:06Ready to get debating.

0:03:06 > 0:03:10- Very good. Ready to play?- Yes. - Here comes Round One.

0:03:13 > 0:03:15This round is multiple choice. Each question

0:03:15 > 0:03:18has four possible answers, only one of them is correct.

0:03:18 > 0:03:20Four questions in this round,

0:03:20 > 0:03:24£200 up for grabs for each correct answer, so best of luck.

0:03:24 > 0:03:27Let's see if we can get you up and running with this...

0:03:44 > 0:03:47Mm. When it said "meat industry", I was sort of hoping that Argentina

0:03:47 > 0:03:50was going to be up there, because I know they're big meat eaters.

0:03:50 > 0:03:54- Yeah, I'm not totally sure. - You're not sure on this one?- No.

0:03:54 > 0:03:58Let's see if our panel can help. Your debate starts now.

0:03:59 > 0:04:01I'm surprised Argentina isn't there, as well.

0:04:01 > 0:04:04That would've been one of the first countries I'd have...

0:04:04 > 0:04:07I thought it was a real British brand, Fray Bentos, I really did.

0:04:07 > 0:04:11Let's have a bit of a think about what Fray Bentos might mean.

0:04:11 > 0:04:14Well, Bentos sounds Portuguese rather than Spanish for a start.

0:04:14 > 0:04:16And what about Fray?

0:04:16 > 0:04:20Because I've got a feeling that that's Portuguese for friar,

0:04:20 > 0:04:25- as in Fra Angelico, so this is a name?- The Good Friar.

0:04:25 > 0:04:30So is this some recipe that was developed in monasteries

0:04:30 > 0:04:35or something like that? These are pies made by friars?

0:04:35 > 0:04:36That's quite...

0:04:36 > 0:04:41But we'd be looking too for Portuguese, which should be Brazil.

0:04:41 > 0:04:45- There is quite a lot of chains now...- Bem Brazil, Bem Brazil is...

0:04:45 > 0:04:46You get these Brazilian...

0:04:46 > 0:04:49Brazilian steakhouses, where they come round and serve you

0:04:49 > 0:04:52different types of meat and it's quite a big deal and it is like...

0:04:52 > 0:04:54They've claimed it as their own,

0:04:54 > 0:04:58that sort of meat franchise of restaurants, so I would've

0:04:58 > 0:05:01said Brazilian, and also the Portuguese notion that you've...

0:05:01 > 0:05:04- Well, I'm not sure of it, though. - There's two clues...

0:05:04 > 0:05:08The word Bentos being more Portuguese- than Spanish-sounding,

0:05:08 > 0:05:12even if it's not Portuguese, and the meat culture in Brazil.

0:05:12 > 0:05:13The Brazil chain restaurant.

0:05:13 > 0:05:16- I've been to the one where you put the flag up.- Yeah.

0:05:16 > 0:05:18GERMAINE SPEAKS IN SPANISH

0:05:18 > 0:05:20Yes. Yeah, there's that too.

0:05:20 > 0:05:22LAUGHTER

0:05:22 > 0:05:26There is nothing really to eliminate Chile, Uruguay or Venezuela,

0:05:26 > 0:05:29- to be honest, is there? - Not really. Not categorically.

0:05:29 > 0:05:31Is it stab it with a pin?

0:05:31 > 0:05:32- It's got to be Brazil...- Yeah.

0:05:32 > 0:05:34It would end in O or A if it was Spanish.

0:05:34 > 0:05:39We have decided that the city of Fray Bentos is in Brazil.

0:05:41 > 0:05:43OK, Hannah. They have stabbed it with a pin,

0:05:43 > 0:05:45which is also the serving instructions for most Fray Bentos.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47- Yes. - LAUGHTER

0:05:47 > 0:05:49- Quite a good sign. - Is that a good sign?

0:05:49 > 0:05:51Well, just as we were talking about the whole...

0:05:51 > 0:05:53It's sounding a bit more Portuguese.

0:05:53 > 0:05:55I have some friends from Uruguay,

0:05:55 > 0:05:59cos I'm practising my Spanish to go to Nicaragua later in the year.

0:05:59 > 0:06:03Uruguay and Brazil are actually bordering each other, and for

0:06:03 > 0:06:08some reason, I have a feeling that they talked about Fray Bentos.

0:06:08 > 0:06:10So thank you very much for your input,

0:06:10 > 0:06:13but there's just something in my gut that's going to go for Uruguay.

0:06:13 > 0:06:15- GERMAINE:- Good for her.

0:06:15 > 0:06:17You're saying Uruguay.

0:06:19 > 0:06:22Our panel are saying "good for you", which means they have no clue.

0:06:22 > 0:06:23LAUGHTER

0:06:23 > 0:06:27The correct answer, for £200, is...

0:06:32 > 0:06:33- Yes!- It is Uruguay!

0:06:33 > 0:06:36- APPLAUSE - Well done!- Good!

0:06:36 > 0:06:40- That was good knowledge. - That's exciting.- Good knowledge.

0:06:40 > 0:06:41Excellent.

0:06:41 > 0:06:44Fray Bentos gained its reputation in the meat industry after

0:06:44 > 0:06:48a meat-packing company opened up there in the 19th century.

0:06:48 > 0:06:54The industrial complex was made a Unesco World Heritage site in 2015.

0:06:54 > 0:06:58The name is derived from Friar Benedict,

0:06:58 > 0:07:02who was a reclusive who lived in the city at the time.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04- Hannah, it means you're up and running with £200.- Yay.

0:07:04 > 0:07:06APPLAUSE

0:07:07 > 0:07:10Let's see if we can keep it going. Here's your second question...

0:07:32 > 0:07:34Now, what we need are a few English graduates.

0:07:34 > 0:07:36SUNETRA LAUGHS

0:07:36 > 0:07:38- If only we had some. - If only we had some.

0:07:38 > 0:07:41So my first instinct is that if we get this wrong,

0:07:41 > 0:07:44- it's going to be quite embarrassing. - Yes.

0:07:44 > 0:07:46And at first I was like, oh, no, glamorous

0:07:46 > 0:07:48is the one that looks right, but you know when you

0:07:48 > 0:07:51look at things and they look wrong, even if they're not wrong?

0:07:51 > 0:07:55Now they suddenly all look weird to me. But my instinct says glamorous.

0:07:55 > 0:07:58I'll see if my other English graduates agree with me.

0:07:58 > 0:07:59OK, panel, your debate starts now.

0:08:01 > 0:08:04Right, well, we're not supposed to be operating by instinct, are we?

0:08:04 > 0:08:07We definitely don't want to embarrass her.

0:08:07 > 0:08:09Or any of our colleagues.

0:08:09 > 0:08:11No, we're probably going to just have to say...

0:08:11 > 0:08:14- We know this one, don't we? - It's glamorous.- We can't really...

0:08:14 > 0:08:18- Easy-peasy.- So, the panel has decided...- It's really hard!

0:08:18 > 0:08:19..that it's glamorous.

0:08:21 > 0:08:24- They're not messing around. - Yeah, they went straight for it.

0:08:24 > 0:08:26And it was of course the one that you thought.

0:08:26 > 0:08:28Yes, so I'm going to trust my instinct and this time go

0:08:28 > 0:08:31- with the panel and say glamorous. - We sorted this one out very quickly.

0:08:31 > 0:08:34This can only go one way if this is wrong.

0:08:35 > 0:08:39Er, let's see. The correct answer is...

0:08:42 > 0:08:43..glamorous.

0:08:43 > 0:08:45CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:08:45 > 0:08:48Well done, glamorous is spelled with an O-R in the middle,

0:08:48 > 0:08:52it is commonly misspelled with O-U-R instead.

0:08:52 > 0:08:55Definitely should have I-T-E, not A-T-E,

0:08:55 > 0:08:58embarrass should have two Rs and two Ss.

0:08:58 > 0:09:01Colleague should have EA in the middle.

0:09:01 > 0:09:04- It means it's another £200 into the prize pot.- Yes.

0:09:04 > 0:09:06100% record, you're up to £400.

0:09:06 > 0:09:08APPLAUSE

0:09:10 > 0:09:12Here we go, question three.

0:09:30 > 0:09:32I'm a big fan of the musical Hamilton.

0:09:32 > 0:09:36And I'm pretty sure they talk about John Adams being quite short.

0:09:36 > 0:09:39Other than that, I have no idea.

0:09:39 > 0:09:41- All right, so you think John Adams may be the shortest.- Yeah.

0:09:41 > 0:09:43Let's see if we can work out the tallest.

0:09:43 > 0:09:45Panel, the debate starts now.

0:09:45 > 0:09:48Right, er... I'm going to ask Russell first.

0:09:48 > 0:09:52Over the holiday period I read a book,

0:09:52 > 0:09:55it's called The American Civil War: History In An Hour.

0:09:55 > 0:09:58And a reference was made to Lincoln's unusual tallness.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01Now, it doesn't mean he's the tallest of that group...

0:10:01 > 0:10:04But I know he was coming on for 6'3, that sort of height.

0:10:04 > 0:10:07- So, he was tall. You tend to think of...- No, Clinton isn't taller.

0:10:07 > 0:10:11- ..Clinton more hunched.- I've been lucky enough to meet Bill Clinton.

0:10:11 > 0:10:13- So have I.- He's not taller than 6'3.

0:10:13 > 0:10:16- He's not taller than I am. - Oh, really?

0:10:16 > 0:10:18I love the way that we've just skirted over the fact that

0:10:18 > 0:10:23- you met Bill Clinton. Where did this happen?- I met him three times.

0:10:23 > 0:10:25Actually, the first time I met him is very funny.

0:10:25 > 0:10:29I was talking at the Oxford Union, debating, you know, and, er,

0:10:29 > 0:10:32there was a man in a pink seersucker suit sitting up the back,

0:10:32 > 0:10:37and I was talking about the odd thing that highly educated women

0:10:37 > 0:10:40expect to marry highly educated men,

0:10:40 > 0:10:42and this creature in the pink suit stood up and said,

0:10:42 > 0:10:46"Would a poor boy from Alabama be in with a chance?"

0:10:46 > 0:10:50And I said, "Are you coming on to me in the Oxford Union?"

0:10:50 > 0:10:53And the answer to that question was yes.

0:10:53 > 0:10:54I met him at an NSPCC do.

0:10:54 > 0:10:58My mum had dropped me off at this event and said, "I would love...

0:10:58 > 0:11:01"If you can get me Bill Clinton's autograph I would just be so happy."

0:11:01 > 0:11:03I've never done anything for my mum, really, so I thought,

0:11:03 > 0:11:06"I'm going to get it for her, I am going to do it."

0:11:06 > 0:11:09So I had my eyes fixed on him, he's giving this big speech.

0:11:09 > 0:11:12I'm not going to be scared, I'm going to go up to Bill Clinton

0:11:12 > 0:11:15and say, "Mr President," as you have to refer to them...

0:11:15 > 0:11:18Now, this was literally a year after 9/11, so security was pretty tight,

0:11:18 > 0:11:22so what I didn't notice was as I was marching with a pen in my hand,

0:11:22 > 0:11:25fixed on Bill Clinton's face, all his security,

0:11:25 > 0:11:29who were mixed in with the British security, were all slowly going,

0:11:29 > 0:11:34"Lady in pink dress walking to President, everybody en garde."

0:11:34 > 0:11:39And right behind me, apparently, two security guards were just about to

0:11:39 > 0:11:45pounce on me as one Scouse security guard went, "She's in Brookside!"

0:11:45 > 0:11:48And told her off, as if that would mean anything to her!

0:11:48 > 0:11:50I didn't see any of this, and I carried on,

0:11:50 > 0:11:53walked up to President Clinton, I said, "Can I have an autograph?"

0:11:53 > 0:11:55Got it back, went back beaming, and everyone was going,

0:11:55 > 0:11:57"Sunetra! You won't believe what's just happened!

0:11:57 > 0:12:00"All the security have come rushing towards you!"

0:12:00 > 0:12:03I met Ken Livingstone on the, er, on the DLR.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05I was on my way to Limehouse.

0:12:05 > 0:12:07He didn't acknowledge me but, you know... We were close.

0:12:07 > 0:12:09- So, our answer...- Is... - ..to the question...

0:12:09 > 0:12:11Abraham Lincoln.

0:12:11 > 0:12:13Is it going to be Abraham Lincoln?

0:12:13 > 0:12:15Yeah, he was 6'3, I just read a book about it.

0:12:15 > 0:12:19This highly experienced and much travelled panel is going to

0:12:19 > 0:12:23plump for the obvious and say Abraham Lincoln is the

0:12:23 > 0:12:24tallest of these Presidents.

0:12:26 > 0:12:29I mean, that would have been sort of my instinct too,

0:12:29 > 0:12:30but do you know what?

0:12:30 > 0:12:32The fact that a book has been read and it said that

0:12:32 > 0:12:35he was 6'3, that has taken my confidence,

0:12:35 > 0:12:39so I'm going to go with the panel and say Abraham Lincoln.

0:12:39 > 0:12:41OK, despite the meetings with Bill Clinton,

0:12:41 > 0:12:44our panel has gone with Abraham Lincoln.

0:12:44 > 0:12:47For £200, the correct answer is...

0:12:52 > 0:12:55CHEERING AND APPLAUSE It is Abraham Lincoln!

0:12:55 > 0:12:57- Very well done.- Yeah.

0:12:57 > 0:13:01Abraham Lincoln, 6'4, making him the tallest US President.

0:13:01 > 0:13:02There he is with his big hat on

0:13:02 > 0:13:05just rubbing it in to the two other people.

0:13:05 > 0:13:09Lyndon Johnson was the second tallest at 6'3 and a half.

0:13:09 > 0:13:12John Adams, one of the smallest at 5'7.

0:13:12 > 0:13:15And Clinton, a little bit taller than you'd think,

0:13:15 > 0:13:17- unless you've met him - 6'2. - Oh, no way.

0:13:17 > 0:13:21Richard Nixon was just over 5'11.

0:13:21 > 0:13:24All of that means it's another 200 quid into the prize pot.

0:13:24 > 0:13:28- Excellent news. - It's a 100% record, Hannah. £600.

0:13:28 > 0:13:30CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:13:31 > 0:13:33We're not done yet.

0:13:33 > 0:13:35One more question in this round, here it comes.

0:13:55 > 0:14:00So, I did study English literature but poetry wasn't something

0:14:00 > 0:14:01that I spent a lot of time on.

0:14:01 > 0:14:06I was mostly sort of studying the Shakespeare and his contemporaries,

0:14:06 > 0:14:08so I'm very glad there is someone who is

0:14:08 > 0:14:11so qualified in poetry on the panel cos I've no idea.

0:14:11 > 0:14:14Absolutely no pressure, panel. Your debate starts now.

0:14:14 > 0:14:16Right, this is going to stretch...belief.

0:14:16 > 0:14:19Credulity as far as it'll possibly go

0:14:19 > 0:14:22- because Russell read the poem yesterday.- I read it yesterday.

0:14:22 > 0:14:26- I just whispered it to Germaine, I read this poem...- No!- ..yesterday.

0:14:26 > 0:14:28It was a book review, the whole poem was quoted,

0:14:28 > 0:14:32and the final line was this food for tea, and I laughed, thinking,

0:14:32 > 0:14:34"Oh, that's the typical, quaint English food to have."

0:14:34 > 0:14:39- What are the chances?- I know it categorically, I read it yesterday.

0:14:39 > 0:14:42Yesterday! I mean, this is my Slumdog Millionaire moment.

0:14:42 > 0:14:44Is panel allowed to decide now?

0:14:44 > 0:14:46Oh, panel is allowed to do whatever panel wishes.

0:14:46 > 0:14:48Panel spent so long on the last question,

0:14:48 > 0:14:50I think we should just go straight for it.

0:14:50 > 0:14:52Panel is running amok, it is true.

0:14:52 > 0:14:56So, the panel has decided, on very good grounds, namely prosody,

0:14:56 > 0:15:01er, that what must be still for tea is a bisyllable, and that is honey.

0:15:03 > 0:15:07Very definite. What are the chances? What are the chances?

0:15:07 > 0:15:10Freakish coincidence. 100% it's honey.

0:15:10 > 0:15:11Well, I'm very glad you did.

0:15:11 > 0:15:15Erm, yeah, honey for tea sounds like it runs much better than

0:15:15 > 0:15:19any of the others, so I'm going to agree and say honey for tea.

0:15:19 > 0:15:21OK, agreeing with the panel. Honey.

0:15:21 > 0:15:26For a 100% record, for £800 out of this first round,

0:15:26 > 0:15:28is honey the correct answer?

0:15:29 > 0:15:31- GERMAINE SIGHS - What if it wasn't?

0:15:31 > 0:15:35CHEERING AND APPLAUSE It is, Germaine! Well done.

0:15:35 > 0:15:37That is mental.

0:15:37 > 0:15:40Stands the church clock at ten to three?

0:15:40 > 0:15:43And is there honey still for tea?

0:15:43 > 0:15:45Hannah, well played, that's another 200 quid

0:15:45 > 0:15:47- into the prize pot. - That went well, didn't it?

0:15:47 > 0:15:49The total bank at the end of Round One,

0:15:49 > 0:15:51it is perfection, it is £800.

0:15:51 > 0:15:54APPLAUSE

0:15:54 > 0:15:56Chuffed with that.

0:15:56 > 0:15:59So how is the panel performing? Who's standing out for you?

0:15:59 > 0:16:02I mean, they're all doing great, but I've got to say, Germaine,

0:16:02 > 0:16:03you've got such a specific knowledge

0:16:03 > 0:16:05- on so many different things... - GERMAINE GROANS

0:16:05 > 0:16:08..that is quite impressive, really.

0:16:08 > 0:16:10OK, well, we have a few rounds still to go before you have to

0:16:10 > 0:16:13- choose one of our panellists to play the final debate.- OK.

0:16:13 > 0:16:16So keep an eye on them as we play Round Two.

0:16:19 > 0:16:21OK, Hannah, Round Two is our picture round.

0:16:21 > 0:16:24You must place three pictures in the correct order.

0:16:24 > 0:16:28Three questions in the round, £300 for each correct answer,

0:16:28 > 0:16:31- little bit more money up for grabs. Let's see how we go.- All right.

0:16:31 > 0:16:32Here comes your first one.

0:16:50 > 0:16:53I have no idea.

0:16:53 > 0:16:55Erm, I wouldn't even know whether the prince or the princess

0:16:55 > 0:17:00was older, so, erm, yeah, it's going to be over to you guys, I think.

0:17:00 > 0:17:04OK, we will defer this regal question to our panel.

0:17:04 > 0:17:06Your debate starts now.

0:17:06 > 0:17:09Right, well, I've just recently watched The Crown.

0:17:09 > 0:17:10Yeah, I'm pretty confident.

0:17:10 > 0:17:14I definitely know Princess Anne, who is older than Prince Andrew,

0:17:14 > 0:17:16was born before the Queen's Coronation, as was Charles.

0:17:16 > 0:17:18Don't know about Andrew and Edward,

0:17:18 > 0:17:21but I feel like they came after the Coronation.

0:17:21 > 0:17:22- Yeah.- So...- Here you go.

0:17:22 > 0:17:25The order it happened, she would give birth to Princess Anne,

0:17:25 > 0:17:28- she's crowned Queen...- It's about...

0:17:28 > 0:17:31- Is it '52 or '53, the Coronation? - '52.- '52, the Coronation.

0:17:31 > 0:17:33Without meaning to be a spoilsport,

0:17:33 > 0:17:36based on what she's wearing and how she looks in the picture,

0:17:36 > 0:17:39I don't know if we're supposed to use stuff like that.

0:17:39 > 0:17:41Well, they're all clues, aren't they?

0:17:41 > 0:17:44I'm pretty sure she's older in that picture than that picture.

0:17:44 > 0:17:46- Definitely. - She is younger even more there,

0:17:46 > 0:17:48so, er, we're fine, we're good.

0:17:48 > 0:17:49Panel reports, then,

0:17:49 > 0:17:54that it has decided that the order of these events is...

0:17:54 > 0:17:59gives birth to Princess Anne, is crowned, and gives birth to Andrew.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03A definite answer from our panel,

0:18:03 > 0:18:05potentially based on box-set television.

0:18:05 > 0:18:09- Hey, I get a lot of information from TV.- Don't knock it.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11I had no instincts going into this round,

0:18:11 > 0:18:15so I'm going to go with the panel wholeheartedly.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17OK, agreeing with the panel.

0:18:17 > 0:18:20For £300, is that the correct order?

0:18:24 > 0:18:27It's the correct answer! APPLAUSE

0:18:29 > 0:18:32Elizabeth gave birth to Princess Anne when she was 24.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35It was her second child, born in 1950.

0:18:35 > 0:18:39Elizabeth was crowned on the 2nd of June, 1953,

0:18:39 > 0:18:42and then Andrew was born in 1960.

0:18:42 > 0:18:44Well done, Hannah, £300.

0:18:44 > 0:18:48- That takes the prize pot up to £1,100.- Lovely.

0:18:48 > 0:18:50APPLAUSE

0:18:51 > 0:18:55Let's see if we can keep the 100% record going with this one.

0:19:16 > 0:19:18- Visit any of those? - No, actually.

0:19:18 > 0:19:21I've walked around outside the Tower of London,

0:19:21 > 0:19:23but I've never actually gone in.

0:19:23 > 0:19:25And, yeah, I don't know how much there is to do at Stonehenge

0:19:25 > 0:19:28rather than see it. I'm not totally sure on this one.

0:19:28 > 0:19:32OK, panel, can you sort this one out for Hannah? Your debate starts now.

0:19:32 > 0:19:36Well, Hannah's just suggested what the real problem is with this

0:19:36 > 0:19:40question, because practically everybody who comes to London

0:19:40 > 0:19:45will go past the Tower of London, but how many people actually go in?

0:19:45 > 0:19:49- I recently went past, and the queue was huge.- It's massive.- Huge.

0:19:49 > 0:19:52It was just going on and on, and it's full of tourists.

0:19:52 > 0:19:54I don't know how many of them were...

0:19:54 > 0:19:56It's on the London itinerary, isn't it?

0:19:56 > 0:20:00I would feel quietly confident that the number one figures come

0:20:00 > 0:20:02from the Tower of London.

0:20:02 > 0:20:04This presents more of an issue.

0:20:04 > 0:20:06Mm, because they're both far away

0:20:06 > 0:20:07and they're not terribly easy to get to.

0:20:07 > 0:20:09How do you define a visit?

0:20:09 > 0:20:11Once a fortnight or once a week when I'm on tour,

0:20:11 > 0:20:13- cos the A303 is where it is.- Really?

0:20:13 > 0:20:17And you can see it from the A303 as you go past it, and it is always...

0:20:17 > 0:20:20You know, like, when you see flies on flypaper, it's that,

0:20:20 > 0:20:21covered with people.

0:20:21 > 0:20:24- I have been to the Eden Project. - Was it busy?

0:20:24 > 0:20:26Er, it was in the early days,

0:20:26 > 0:20:30- and I tramped around it and got cross, as I often do.- Never!

0:20:30 > 0:20:34What do we think? We think the Tower of London's the most visited.

0:20:34 > 0:20:36- 100%.- Yeah. - We think Stonehenge,

0:20:36 > 0:20:40you think it's covered with flies like...people like flypaper!

0:20:40 > 0:20:42But that's not that many for the size of the attraction.

0:20:42 > 0:20:45When I go past, there's probably 100 or 200 people stood around at most.

0:20:45 > 0:20:48If we got off a plane tomorrow in Melbourne and said,

0:20:48 > 0:20:50"I've just been to see Stonehenge,"

0:20:50 > 0:20:53would every Australian have heard of Stonehenge,

0:20:53 > 0:20:56more or less? Is it a world-famous site? That's what I'm asking.

0:20:56 > 0:20:59Compared to the Eden Project, which is famous here in the UK,

0:20:59 > 0:21:01but if I stepped off a plane in Australia, in New York, and said

0:21:01 > 0:21:04"the Eden Project" would it get recognition? Tower of London, yes.

0:21:04 > 0:21:07Do Japanese tourists go to Stonehenge is what we want to

0:21:07 > 0:21:10- know, really, isn't it?- Yes.- Well, I think the answer's yes, isn't it?

0:21:10 > 0:21:12So, there we go, let's take a gamble.

0:21:12 > 0:21:15We can only debate so much, but this is what we think.

0:21:15 > 0:21:17The panel, feeling rather foolish,

0:21:17 > 0:21:21has come to what might seem to some an obvious conclusion, which is

0:21:21 > 0:21:24that the Eden Project is the least visited,

0:21:24 > 0:21:29Stonehenge is the next, and the most visited is the Tower of London.

0:21:31 > 0:21:32OK, Hannah.

0:21:32 > 0:21:35Well, there are two things the panel said that have really stuck

0:21:35 > 0:21:38with me, and one is, where would all the Japanese tourists go to?

0:21:38 > 0:21:41And I'm just quite conscious that it says "visitors,"

0:21:41 > 0:21:44not necessarily tourists, and I know that there are a lot of,

0:21:44 > 0:21:47like, domestic visitors that would go to the Eden Project.

0:21:47 > 0:21:48And also that's open year-round,

0:21:48 > 0:21:51and Stonehenge is not going to be very fun in December,

0:21:51 > 0:21:54so I'm going to switch around the first two,

0:21:54 > 0:21:56and I'm going to go against the panel,

0:21:56 > 0:22:00say that Stonehenge is the least visited, the Eden Project is

0:22:00 > 0:22:04in the middle and the most visited is the Tower of London.

0:22:04 > 0:22:08- It's a good shout.- Yeah. - So, going against the panel.- Yes.

0:22:08 > 0:22:14To keep that 100% record, for £300, is that the correct order?

0:22:19 > 0:22:22It's not, Hannah, I'm afraid.

0:22:22 > 0:22:24Let's have a little look at the correct order.

0:22:26 > 0:22:27The panel were right.

0:22:27 > 0:22:29The Eden Project, least visited, then Stonehenge,

0:22:29 > 0:22:30then the Tower of London.

0:22:30 > 0:22:36The Eden Project had just under a million visitors in 2015,

0:22:36 > 0:22:39Stonehenge had around 1.4 million in 2015,

0:22:39 > 0:22:46and the Tower of London just under 2.8 million visitors in 2015.

0:22:46 > 0:22:49OK, Hannah, let's see if we can get back on track with this one,

0:22:49 > 0:22:50your final picture question.

0:23:11 > 0:23:15- Fan of Madonna?- Do you know what? I can't even bring the song to mind.

0:23:15 > 0:23:18- I have no idea.- OK.- None at all.

0:23:18 > 0:23:20Let's see if we've got any '90s music fans in our panel.

0:23:20 > 0:23:21Your debate starts now.

0:23:21 > 0:23:23OK, before I forget...

0:23:23 > 0:23:25Greta Garbo and Monroe

0:23:25 > 0:23:26Dietrich and DiMaggio

0:23:26 > 0:23:28Marlon Brando, Jimmy Dean

0:23:28 > 0:23:30On the cover of a magazine

0:23:30 > 0:23:32Grace Kelly, Harlow, Jean

0:23:32 > 0:23:34Picture of a beauty queen

0:23:34 > 0:23:36- Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire... - Ginger Rogers.

0:23:36 > 0:23:37Ginger Rogers, dance on air

0:23:37 > 0:23:39They had style, they had grace

0:23:39 > 0:23:40Rita Hayworth gave good face

0:23:40 > 0:23:43La-la-da-da, da-da-do Bette Davis, we love you.

0:23:43 > 0:23:45Quick, quick, quick, quick!

0:23:45 > 0:23:48Quick, before I forget, before I forget!

0:23:48 > 0:23:49APPLAUSE

0:23:49 > 0:23:51- Nice! Vogue!- Vogue!

0:23:51 > 0:23:54- That's how you do it. - OK, what happened there?

0:23:54 > 0:23:57LAUGHTER

0:23:57 > 0:24:01- What actually happened?- Somebody remembered the song word-for-word.

0:24:01 > 0:24:05See, some of us are not Madonna admirers. That's a problem.

0:24:05 > 0:24:07Some of us think she can neither sing nor dance.

0:24:07 > 0:24:09These celebrities,

0:24:09 > 0:24:14according to our brilliant student of pop culture,

0:24:14 > 0:24:16Sunetra...

0:24:16 > 0:24:18these women are mentioned in this order -

0:24:18 > 0:24:22Greta Garbo, Rita Hayworth and Bette Davis.

0:24:24 > 0:24:26Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty convinced.

0:24:26 > 0:24:28Erm, you know, we got the lyrics all in a run.

0:24:28 > 0:24:31I don't think there's much I can argue with, to be honest.

0:24:31 > 0:24:34I'm going to go straight with the panel and agree that

0:24:34 > 0:24:38Greta Garbo came first, Rita Hayworth was mentioned second

0:24:38 > 0:24:42and Bette Davis was mentioned last.

0:24:42 > 0:24:43- OK.- What if I'm wrong now?

0:24:43 > 0:24:47- No way, there's no way. - There it is. £300...

0:24:48 > 0:24:50The correct order is...

0:24:54 > 0:24:56- Yeah!- It is the correct answer!

0:24:56 > 0:24:58That was impressive, Sunetra, fantastic.

0:24:58 > 0:24:59- Very well done.- Thank you.

0:24:59 > 0:25:02Sunetra, very good '90s pop knowledge.

0:25:02 > 0:25:06That means at the end of Round Two the prize pot is up to £1,400.

0:25:06 > 0:25:08CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:25:10 > 0:25:13So, how is the panel faring?

0:25:13 > 0:25:16Yeah, I never thought that I would hear someone recite all the

0:25:16 > 0:25:20lyrics to Vogue today, but do you know what? I live in surprise.

0:25:21 > 0:25:22Now, if you had to choose one

0:25:22 > 0:25:25based on their performances so far, who do you think?

0:25:25 > 0:25:29Russell's super-lucky, and do you know what, I think sometimes what

0:25:29 > 0:25:31you need is a good dose of luck, so,

0:25:31 > 0:25:34- so far I've got a good feeling about that end of the table.- Yeah.

0:25:34 > 0:25:36- Yes, yes!- OK, well, look, we still have one round to go.

0:25:36 > 0:25:38Best of luck, let's play Round Three.

0:25:41 > 0:25:44OK, Hannah, in Round Three you'll face questions that contain

0:25:44 > 0:25:46a statement about a person, a place or a thing,

0:25:46 > 0:25:48but only one of those statements is true.

0:25:48 > 0:25:50We need you to find that statement.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53It's the final round, three questions in the round,

0:25:53 > 0:25:57the money goes up to £500. So best of luck.

0:25:57 > 0:26:00Here comes your first question of our final round.

0:26:23 > 0:26:27Kind of all I can remember about it is that it was set in a prison.

0:26:27 > 0:26:29Erm...

0:26:29 > 0:26:33And I don't remember anything about an opening theme, it's never

0:26:33 > 0:26:36come up on any sort of quizzes, like, guess the theme to Porridge.

0:26:36 > 0:26:38Well, hold that thought because I'm sure that Russell

0:26:38 > 0:26:42has probably just watched an episode of Porridge just yesterday!

0:26:42 > 0:26:44Panel, your debate starts now.

0:26:44 > 0:26:46Quite the opposite, I have never watched

0:26:46 > 0:26:48a single edition of Porridge in my entire life.

0:26:48 > 0:26:49Unless one of you guys are Porridge fans

0:26:49 > 0:26:51we're going to have to reason this one out.

0:26:51 > 0:26:53Well, I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm a fan,

0:26:53 > 0:26:56I've probably watched it as a child growing up.

0:26:56 > 0:26:58- It had its funny moments.- Yes.

0:26:58 > 0:27:01You'd remember black screen, rolling credits, no music, surely.

0:27:01 > 0:27:04I was going to say because Ronnie Corbett and Ronnie Barker

0:27:04 > 0:27:07worked together so closely, I remember Porridge being the first

0:27:07 > 0:27:10departure for Corbett and Barker to go their own separate ways.

0:27:10 > 0:27:13Ronnie Corbett did Sorry!, Ronnie Barker did Porridge,

0:27:13 > 0:27:15so I'd be surprised if they...

0:27:15 > 0:27:18I think they were trying to show they could do separate things.

0:27:18 > 0:27:20I may be wrong about this,

0:27:20 > 0:27:23but I don't think there were ever any external shots.

0:27:23 > 0:27:27- No, there weren't. - So, what's the point of Dartmoor?

0:27:27 > 0:27:29Also, I seem to recall that it has a very London-y feel.

0:27:29 > 0:27:32Yes, there was no West Country accents in it,

0:27:32 > 0:27:33from the clips I've seen.

0:27:33 > 0:27:36- Yeah, no, Richard Beckinsale... - So we think that's wrong.

0:27:36 > 0:27:38We think it's unlikely it had no opening...

0:27:38 > 0:27:41Extremely forgettable opening credits music!

0:27:41 > 0:27:42You know what, though?

0:27:42 > 0:27:45I can't think of a theme tune for Porridge, but only at the very end.

0:27:45 > 0:27:48Obviously, I'm a comedian, and Ronnie Barker, as a comedian

0:27:48 > 0:27:51and a writer, is an innovator, years ahead,

0:27:51 > 0:27:53- a real craftsman. - Mm, yeah, yeah.

0:27:53 > 0:27:58And starting in sort of a European arty style without music is exactly

0:27:58 > 0:28:01the type of thing, stylistically, he would have sought to...

0:28:01 > 0:28:03Yeah, maybe he did, like, the opening of the jail and the keys

0:28:03 > 0:28:06and maybe there wasn't music, and it was like, "Everyone get out..."

0:28:06 > 0:28:08Maybe it was one of those sort of openings.

0:28:08 > 0:28:12Both one and two are equally feasible, I'm afraid. I'm...

0:28:12 > 0:28:15Let's go for the show had no opening theme music.

0:28:15 > 0:28:17That would be my instinct.

0:28:17 > 0:28:21Right, my learned colleagues are of the opinion that Porridge had

0:28:21 > 0:28:23no opening theme music.

0:28:24 > 0:28:26The panel have gone for A.

0:28:27 > 0:28:31- Yeah.- But they've worked it through. - No, but it's with my leanings.

0:28:31 > 0:28:33Like, what you said about there being sort of

0:28:33 > 0:28:35a jail soundscape makes quite a lot of sense to me.

0:28:35 > 0:28:37There's something about that that rings quite true,

0:28:37 > 0:28:40so I'm going to go with the panel and say that it's true.

0:28:40 > 0:28:43The show had no opening theme music.

0:28:43 > 0:28:47- OK. You're going with the panel. - Yeah.

0:28:49 > 0:28:53For £500, Porridge had no opening theme music.

0:28:53 > 0:28:54Is that the correct statement?

0:29:00 > 0:29:02CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:29:03 > 0:29:05Ronnie Barker! Mr Innovator!

0:29:05 > 0:29:08- Well done.- Ah, well done. - The jail door.

0:29:08 > 0:29:12Sunetra, you were absolutely right, Porridge featured images and sounds

0:29:12 > 0:29:16of slamming doors, keys rattling, with a judge voiced by Ronnie Barker

0:29:16 > 0:29:19sentencing Norman Stanley Fletcher.

0:29:19 > 0:29:20That was it!

0:29:20 > 0:29:25The show was set at the fictional Her Majesty's Prison Slade

0:29:25 > 0:29:29in Cumbria, or Cumberland, as it was then known.

0:29:29 > 0:29:32None of that matters, though. You were right to go with the panel.

0:29:32 > 0:29:36£500 into the prize pot, you are now up to £1,900.

0:29:36 > 0:29:38CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:29:41 > 0:29:44Here we go, second question of the final round.

0:30:06 > 0:30:09I really hope A isn't true.

0:30:09 > 0:30:10That would make me really sad.

0:30:10 > 0:30:12I know it's a big, nasty world out there,

0:30:12 > 0:30:15but I really hope they don't eat penguins.

0:30:15 > 0:30:18Erm... Other than that I'm not quite sure.

0:30:18 > 0:30:22I'm not really up on my Latin, and so hopefully one of the panel is.

0:30:22 > 0:30:25We're hoping that nature does not have a cruel, realistic edge.

0:30:25 > 0:30:30Now I'm going to hand this over to the panel. The debate starts now.

0:30:30 > 0:30:31Righto, panel, what do we think?

0:30:31 > 0:30:34Do you reckon that a polar bear can catch a penguin?

0:30:34 > 0:30:36Can I ask a really basic question

0:30:36 > 0:30:39- at the risk of making myself sound thick?- Mm-hm.

0:30:39 > 0:30:43Which pole do polar bears live in, and which pole do penguins live on?

0:30:43 > 0:30:45- Are they different poles? - Good question.- Ah, good question.

0:30:45 > 0:30:47Are penguins Antarctic, or am I...?

0:30:47 > 0:30:49Yes, well, they're more than Antarctic,

0:30:49 > 0:30:52but I don't think they are in the Arctic, I think you're right.

0:30:52 > 0:30:55Yeah, I think polar bears are in the north, so...

0:30:55 > 0:30:57Yeah, they're definitely in the Arctic.

0:30:57 > 0:30:59That's a great way of eliminating.

0:30:59 > 0:31:02- I didn't know that, I was asking the question.- Hurray for the penguins!

0:31:02 > 0:31:06- Mm-mm.- Germaine solved that if anyone did, so...- Well...

0:31:06 > 0:31:09That's what she thinks, poor old thing, but she could be wrong.

0:31:09 > 0:31:12Their Latin name means "sea bear".

0:31:12 > 0:31:16I'm having difficulty with that because the ordinary name for bears

0:31:16 > 0:31:19- is "ursus".- If it's "ursus," "mare" would it be?

0:31:19 > 0:31:21"Mare" is sea in Latin.

0:31:21 > 0:31:25Yeah, no, it would be "maritimum" or "marinus" or something like that.

0:31:25 > 0:31:27Cubs leave their mothers when they're about six months old.

0:31:27 > 0:31:30- Do we think that's unlikely? - That seems about right to me.

0:31:30 > 0:31:33I think that seems... That seems more likely to me.

0:31:33 > 0:31:36If you think, like, a domestic cat and dog's, like, three months old.

0:31:36 > 0:31:39Yeah, the size of it would matter, I suppose.

0:31:39 > 0:31:42Well, the mother starts feeding them in her den.

0:31:42 > 0:31:44Do they come out at the end of the summer?

0:31:44 > 0:31:45Well, that's a good point,

0:31:45 > 0:31:48cos they're sort of trapped for six months, aren't they?

0:31:48 > 0:31:51They make that little ice den and live... They rear them inside.

0:31:51 > 0:31:52They come out ready to go.

0:31:52 > 0:31:54But do they come out when it gets cold, when the

0:31:54 > 0:31:56sea ice should have formed, or do they come out when it gets warm?

0:31:56 > 0:31:59In fact, six months could be a clue because that's when the

0:31:59 > 0:32:02seasons would dramatically change and they would be able to go

0:32:02 > 0:32:03off on their own cos it'd be warmer.

0:32:03 > 0:32:06- It could well be... - The second one.- ..the second one.

0:32:06 > 0:32:08The third one we cannot eliminate because we just don't know.

0:32:08 > 0:32:11- There's no reason at all... - No, my Latin is amo, amas...

0:32:11 > 0:32:15- I should be able to remember it but in fact I can't.- Yeah, but...

0:32:15 > 0:32:18- But we're going to plump, are we, for the middle?- I just feel like...

0:32:18 > 0:32:19They grow up to be so big,

0:32:19 > 0:32:22we don't know what size they are when they're six months old.

0:32:22 > 0:32:23Maybe they can fend for themselves.

0:32:23 > 0:32:26You think they wouldn't have too many predators cos they already...

0:32:26 > 0:32:28- True. - Oh, but that's the other thing,

0:32:28 > 0:32:30that the mother will be pursued by a male bear,

0:32:30 > 0:32:33and she has to get rid of the cubs because he'll kill them.

0:32:33 > 0:32:35- Get pregnant again.- Let's go with B, that was our instinct.

0:32:35 > 0:32:37We'll go with B.

0:32:37 > 0:32:41Polar bear cubs leave their mothers when they're about six months old.

0:32:43 > 0:32:48- OK, Hannah, a thorough debate there. - Very thorough.- A few logical points.

0:32:48 > 0:32:52Yes, erm, do you know what swayed me, is the point about the mother

0:32:52 > 0:32:55being chased by another male bear and having to ditch the cubs,

0:32:55 > 0:32:57that sounds very plausible.

0:32:57 > 0:32:59So I'm going to go with the panel and say that the cubs leave

0:32:59 > 0:33:02their mother when they're about six months old.

0:33:02 > 0:33:07OK, for £500, the correct statement is...

0:33:13 > 0:33:14Oh, no!

0:33:14 > 0:33:18- Their Latin name means "sea bear". - Oh, so what is it, please?

0:33:18 > 0:33:22- Will you tell us?- Their Latin name is "Ursus maritimus".

0:33:22 > 0:33:25- Damn, I already said Ursus maritimus!- You actually said that.

0:33:25 > 0:33:28You did say it. It means "sea bear".

0:33:28 > 0:33:30I only translated it, that was all.

0:33:30 > 0:33:33- Well, bum is all I can say! - LAUGHTER

0:33:33 > 0:33:36- Posterius! - LAUGHTER

0:33:36 > 0:33:37Derrierius!

0:33:37 > 0:33:41Er, polar bears live in the Arctic, penguins live in the Antarctic.

0:33:41 > 0:33:43- Russell, you were right. - Oh, fact alert(!)

0:33:44 > 0:33:46Er, they're never found together.

0:33:46 > 0:33:49Polar bear cubs stay with their mothers until they're around

0:33:49 > 0:33:52- two-and-a-half years old. - There you go.

0:33:52 > 0:33:55Humans are the only species on the planet that never leave their

0:33:55 > 0:33:58mothers because they can't afford to buy houses.

0:33:58 > 0:34:01LAUGHTER

0:34:01 > 0:34:04I'm afraid no money added to the prize pot on that occasion,

0:34:04 > 0:34:07but we have one more question.

0:34:07 > 0:34:09For £500, here it comes...

0:34:27 > 0:34:28I mean, he could have married his cousin,

0:34:28 > 0:34:31that was perfectly acceptable back then, wasn't it?

0:34:31 > 0:34:34And Australia is far,

0:34:34 > 0:34:37but maybe he was from Australia,

0:34:37 > 0:34:41because isn't Darwin, Australia named after him? I don't...

0:34:41 > 0:34:45- I have no idea!- He's not named after it, it's named after him.

0:34:45 > 0:34:49- That's what I meant!- His middle name was Tasmania, wasn't it?- Ah, yes(!)

0:34:50 > 0:34:52So, yeah, I'm not sure on that.

0:34:52 > 0:34:55- OK, you're not sure.- No.- I am...

0:34:55 > 0:34:59I'm sure our panel can sort this out.

0:34:59 > 0:35:03Which statement is true about Darwin? Your debate starts now.

0:35:03 > 0:35:06- Well, erm... - What is a lifelong vegetarian?

0:35:06 > 0:35:10You told me that you were convinced that he was on the Beagle.

0:35:10 > 0:35:13- The Beagle went to Australia, did it not?- Yes.

0:35:13 > 0:35:17Right, well, I can't be 100% sure the Beagle went to Australia,

0:35:17 > 0:35:18but I do know he was on the Beagle,

0:35:18 > 0:35:21so if you're sure the Beagle went to Australia, that he did indeed...

0:35:21 > 0:35:24Cos he went to the Galapagos, 100%.

0:35:24 > 0:35:26- That's sort of en route. - Ooh, not really.

0:35:26 > 0:35:28He discovered the Komodo dragon,

0:35:28 > 0:35:30dropped off for a bit of Komodo action...

0:35:30 > 0:35:33- Wow.- ..then went to Oz. - And the rest is history.

0:35:33 > 0:35:35I have a question. What is a lifelong vegetarian?

0:35:35 > 0:35:37Does that mean he would have to be a vegetarian from the day

0:35:37 > 0:35:40he was born, so his mother fed him as a vegetarian?

0:35:40 > 0:35:42Because you couldn't say you were a lifelong vegetarian unless

0:35:42 > 0:35:44all your life, from zero onwards.

0:35:44 > 0:35:45I'm pretty sure he married his cousin.

0:35:45 > 0:35:48She was called something like Hetty or Etty or something, is that right?

0:35:48 > 0:35:51- Yeah, his first cousin.- What's her name, do you know it?- Henrietta?

0:35:51 > 0:35:55- That'd be Etty.- I'm sure it is. - So that's our true statement, then.

0:35:55 > 0:35:59The decision of the panel is that the true statement in those three

0:35:59 > 0:36:02is that Darwin married his first cousin.

0:36:04 > 0:36:09So, by a process of elimination, our panel have gone with B,

0:36:09 > 0:36:11he married his first cousin.

0:36:11 > 0:36:14Yeah, I mean, I know now you can get veggie baby food and vegan

0:36:14 > 0:36:17baby food, but, erm, I don't think the Darwin family would have

0:36:17 > 0:36:21been sort of hipster enough for that kind of baby diet.

0:36:21 > 0:36:25And likewise, social etiquette around marrying close family

0:36:25 > 0:36:26members is different now.

0:36:26 > 0:36:29So based on the fact that times have changed, I'm going to agree

0:36:29 > 0:36:34with the panel and say B, he married his first cousin, is true.

0:36:35 > 0:36:38OK. He married his first cousin,

0:36:38 > 0:36:40which is a great evolutionary move(!)

0:36:40 > 0:36:43PANEL LAUGH

0:36:43 > 0:36:44That was a good joke.

0:36:44 > 0:36:48For £500, we're hoping that this is the correct statement.

0:36:48 > 0:36:49The correct statement is...

0:36:51 > 0:36:52I hate this wait!

0:36:53 > 0:36:56They named a city, he had to have gone there.

0:36:56 > 0:36:59He did. Well done.

0:36:59 > 0:37:01Well played, Hannah.

0:37:01 > 0:37:07- He did marry his first cousin, Emma Wedgwood, in 1839.- Emma, not Etta.

0:37:07 > 0:37:10At university he was a member of the Gluttons Club that would eat

0:37:10 > 0:37:13unusual meat. Now, this you'll be interested in, Russell.

0:37:13 > 0:37:18On the Beagle, he ate pumas, armadillos, Galapagos tortoises.

0:37:18 > 0:37:22It wasn't until he got back to Britain that

0:37:22 > 0:37:28- he realised how valuable what he ate would have been as a specimen.- No!

0:37:28 > 0:37:29"I've eaten the evidence!"

0:37:30 > 0:37:34He did visit Australia during the second voyage of the Beagle.

0:37:34 > 0:37:37Darwin in the Northern Territory is named after him,

0:37:37 > 0:37:40although he never visited that specific area.

0:37:40 > 0:37:43Well done, Hannah. Well worked out.

0:37:43 > 0:37:47At the end of Round Three your prize pot is a magnificent £2,400.

0:37:47 > 0:37:49APPLAUSE

0:37:53 > 0:37:55- Just have to get that now.- We just have to get that. Now, 2,400.

0:37:55 > 0:37:57Is this going to go to more Fred renovations

0:37:57 > 0:37:58or what are you going to do?

0:37:58 > 0:38:01Yes, I want him to be solar panelled and totally self-sufficient,

0:38:01 > 0:38:04so I'd buy some solar panels and possibly

0:38:04 > 0:38:07- a little woodburning stove to keep me warm.- OK.

0:38:07 > 0:38:11So, there's only one question between you and that trip with Fred.

0:38:11 > 0:38:14- Yes. - That is our final debate question.

0:38:14 > 0:38:17The final debate, of course, will have six possible answers.

0:38:17 > 0:38:21Only three of them are correct. We need you to give all three answers.

0:38:21 > 0:38:23As before, you will not be alone.

0:38:23 > 0:38:28You will choose one of this esteemed panel to help you with the question.

0:38:28 > 0:38:32You and your panellist will have 45 seconds to debate the question.

0:38:32 > 0:38:35So who would you like to join you in the final debate?

0:38:35 > 0:38:38Will it be Bill Clinton's security risk, Sunetra?

0:38:38 > 0:38:39Will it be Germaine,

0:38:39 > 0:38:43who will be Facebook-requesting Madonna directly after this show?

0:38:43 > 0:38:46Or will it be our psychic poet, Russell?

0:38:46 > 0:38:49Always go with a psychic poet. Er, Russell, please.

0:38:49 > 0:38:51OK, Russell, will you join us, please,

0:38:51 > 0:38:53and we'll play the final debate.

0:38:53 > 0:38:55APPLAUSE

0:38:58 > 0:39:01OK, Russell, Hannah has chosen you for the final debate.

0:39:01 > 0:39:03Absolutely no pressure.

0:39:03 > 0:39:04RUSSELL SCOFFS

0:39:04 > 0:39:08I mean, all of my answers were based on luck, so I admire your optimism.

0:39:08 > 0:39:09That's why I picked you.

0:39:09 > 0:39:11We're all hoping that what comes up on the screen,

0:39:11 > 0:39:14- you've actually read it yesterday. - Yeah, cos my memory's that short!

0:39:14 > 0:39:16Well, the day before would do as well.

0:39:16 > 0:39:18- No, it would have faded by then. - Oh. Oh, dear.

0:39:18 > 0:39:21OK, because it's the final debate, Hannah, we're going to give you

0:39:21 > 0:39:24a choice from two categories, so have a look at these.

0:39:29 > 0:39:31- No-brainer.- Yeah, I mean, unless it's baseball

0:39:31 > 0:39:33- I wouldn't know anything about US Sport.- I hate all sport.

0:39:33 > 0:39:35All right, so shall we go for food?

0:39:35 > 0:39:38- I love food.- Me too.- I'm fond of Europe too, so...- Let's go for it.

0:39:38 > 0:39:40Yeah, let's go for European Food.

0:39:40 > 0:39:42It could be fiendishly hard but at least, you know,

0:39:42 > 0:39:44- it's something we can eat.- Yeah.

0:39:44 > 0:39:47OK, you've gone for European Food.

0:39:47 > 0:39:48The adrenaline!

0:39:48 > 0:39:51All I can see is Fred's sad headlight eyes like that...

0:39:52 > 0:39:56Best of luck, Hannah. We're going to put 45 seconds on the clock.

0:39:56 > 0:40:00For £2,400, we need three correct answers from this,

0:40:00 > 0:40:02our final debate question.

0:40:02 > 0:40:03- Please.- OK...

0:40:13 > 0:40:14Greek, Greek.

0:40:16 > 0:40:18Don't know.

0:40:19 > 0:40:20Mm-mm.

0:40:27 > 0:40:29Your time starts now.

0:40:29 > 0:40:31I'm pretty sure Manchego is Italian.

0:40:31 > 0:40:34- I think Manchego's Spanish. - Is it?- It's Spanish.

0:40:34 > 0:40:38Manchego is definitely Spanish. Havarti is Greek.

0:40:38 > 0:40:41- Erm...- Provolone?

0:40:41 > 0:40:45My instinct, linguistically, as I know none of them,

0:40:45 > 0:40:50would be Taleggio, Provolone, and then either Asiago...

0:40:50 > 0:40:53- SV isn't that common in Italian, is it?- No, but it does occur.

0:40:53 > 0:40:56- It does show up every now and again. - 20 seconds.

0:40:56 > 0:40:59- Svecia, Svecia.- What about Asiago? - Asiago again could be Spanish.

0:41:01 > 0:41:03Erm...

0:41:03 > 0:41:05- I would say go Asi... - So we're saying Taleggio...

0:41:05 > 0:41:08- Provolone and Asiago...- Provolone and Asiago.- ..is the best guess.

0:41:08 > 0:41:12- Yeah, Svecia.- Five seconds.- Cos that sounds like Swiss.- Maybe, yeah.

0:41:12 > 0:41:15- Taleggio...- Provolone and Asiago.

0:41:15 > 0:41:19- Hannah, I need three cheeses. - Oh, OK.- All guesses.

0:41:19 > 0:41:23Taleggio, Provolone, Asiago.

0:41:25 > 0:41:28Er, Taleggio, Provolone, Asiago.

0:41:28 > 0:41:30OK, Hannah, best of luck, we need all three of these to be

0:41:30 > 0:41:33correct for you to leave with the money.

0:41:33 > 0:41:36If one of them is wrong, I'm afraid you do leave with nothing,

0:41:36 > 0:41:38so fingers crossed.

0:41:38 > 0:41:41Is Taleggio an Italian cheese?

0:41:41 > 0:41:43Got to be, man, the double G, come on!

0:41:43 > 0:41:45I will eat it, I will eat it so hard.

0:41:46 > 0:41:47Yes!

0:41:47 > 0:41:49APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

0:41:50 > 0:41:54- From the Lombardy and Piedmont region.- Of course.

0:41:54 > 0:41:57OK, next up you said Provolone.

0:41:57 > 0:42:00To keep us on track for 2,400,

0:42:00 > 0:42:03is Provolone an Italian cheese?

0:42:06 > 0:42:10It is! It is a cow's-milk cheese from southern Italy.

0:42:13 > 0:42:17- OK, so it's all down to this. - Oh, for the solar panels.- Asiago.

0:42:17 > 0:42:21- You weren't sure between...?- Asiago and Svecia.- Svecia and Asiago.

0:42:21 > 0:42:22It was just the C, I would say...

0:42:22 > 0:42:25Because of ciabatta and words like that I would have thought the

0:42:25 > 0:42:28C would be hard, and if you're pronouncing it correctly, and

0:42:28 > 0:42:32- I trust you, it's surely got to be Asiago, surely.- Here we go.

0:42:32 > 0:42:35If it is Asiago, it's 2,400.

0:42:35 > 0:42:38- If it's wrong you leave with nothing.- Ugh!

0:42:38 > 0:42:40The correct answer is...

0:42:48 > 0:42:50Yeah, Asiago!

0:42:52 > 0:42:53Well done! Congratulations!

0:42:53 > 0:42:58- Well played, you've just won £2,400.- Yes!

0:42:58 > 0:43:01- Thrilled with that.- And it's all for the hard C in Italian.

0:43:01 > 0:43:03There we go, well done.

0:43:03 > 0:43:06Let's have a look at some of the others.

0:43:06 > 0:43:09Havarti is a semi-soft Danish cheese.

0:43:09 > 0:43:11Oh, Danish, I thought it was Greek.

0:43:11 > 0:43:13Manchego is from Spain, you were right, Russell.

0:43:13 > 0:43:15Svecia, Swedish.

0:43:15 > 0:43:19Congratulations, Hannah, you've just won £2,400, well done!

0:43:19 > 0:43:22Well played, well done, Russell.

0:43:24 > 0:43:25That is it for Debatable.

0:43:25 > 0:43:28There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel,

0:43:28 > 0:43:31to Russell Kane, to Sunetra Sarker and Germaine Greer.

0:43:31 > 0:43:32I hope you've enjoyed watching,

0:43:32 > 0:43:35we'll see you next time for more heated debates.

0:43:35 > 0:43:36For now, from me, it's goodbye.